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Spinless

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« on: 13 Oct 2005, 06:24 »
Imminent death of my hard drive that is.
I have 9 CDrs left...
I have more than 9 albums that I want to save. I can't decide, my taste changes with my mood, help me choose nine, and make it snappy (please?).
Which albums do you think are keepers?

Autolux- future perfect.
Deerhoof- Apple'O
Dillinger Four-Versus God
Lightning Bolt-The Wonderful Rainbow
Mclusky-The Difference between...
Metric-Old World Underground
Modest Mouse-Moon and Antartica, Good New For...
Mogwai-Rock Action, Young Team
My Bloody Valentine-Loveless
Neutral Milk Hotel-the aeroplane over the sea
Pinback-Summer In Abadon
Silver Jews-American Water
Sonic Youth- Day Dream Nation, Murray Street, Sonic Nurse.
Spoon-Gimme Fiction
American Analog Set-Golden Band, Know By Heart.
Dinosaur Jr-You're living all over me, Green Mind
Animal Collective-Sung Tongs
The Constantines-Shine a Light
Dismemberment plan-Emergency and I
The Shins-Oh Inverted World
Unicorns-who will cut our hair...
Wrens-Secaucus.
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Se7en

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« Reply #1 on: 13 Oct 2005, 06:51 »
MP3. Compress em, put the whole lot on one disk.
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« Reply #2 on: 13 Oct 2005, 07:00 »
Instead of ripping it as an audio CD, just move the files to the CD via Windows Explorer (XP only). What program do you use to burn CD's with?
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« Reply #3 on: 13 Oct 2005, 07:04 »
Oh, you must be talking about backing up downloaded music, because if they were audio CD rips, you would probably have the origionals knocking around.

Just view the total size of the folders. Drag and select the relevant ones, right click, properties. Your 74 minuite CD can take 650 Mb, and an 80 min can take 700.

A complete MP3 album is usually 30mb or so, so your not going to have any space problems. Use whatever burning software you have, and create a data CD, rather than an audio CD, and just dump the files on like you would with any other data files.
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« Reply #4 on: 13 Oct 2005, 07:11 »
What makes you so sure the drives going to conk anyway? Or are you deliberatly nuking it?
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« Reply #5 on: 13 Oct 2005, 07:14 »
If your drive is about to go, buy a new one now and clone the original to the new one.

Also, shouldn't this go in the other forum?
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« Reply #6 on: 13 Oct 2005, 07:58 »
If you have Nero or Roxio CD burning programs, you can just choose "make a data CD" option, and it should be able to work that way...unless you ripped them directly from CD, then it would be in .wma format and then would have to convert to MP3..
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« Reply #7 on: 13 Oct 2005, 08:45 »
Well what actual symptons is the drive displaying?
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« Reply #8 on: 13 Oct 2005, 08:52 »
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@seven: It told me so.

Yeah, what is "it" anyway?  Did you get a dialog box that popped up on your computer or something?
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« Reply #9 on: 13 Oct 2005, 09:37 »
The problem is a VIRUS. XP does NOT do that. Theres nothing wrong with your hard drive, your just infected.
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« Reply #10 on: 13 Oct 2005, 09:53 »
http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg70free_344a618.exe

Download that, install it. Its a very good (and free) virus scanner. Run it, and it will do the rest.
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Se7en

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« Reply #11 on: 13 Oct 2005, 10:05 »
Once the system is clean, you need to secure it. Use windows update to check for vital updates, upgrading to SP2 if you havnt already, then turn automatic updates on, turn AVG to automatically scan every couple of days, and scan all downloaded files. and then replace IE with firefox.
If you need more specific instructions, il provide them once you have gone through the virus scan.
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Se7en

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« Reply #12 on: 13 Oct 2005, 10:36 »
is it properly updated?

The only other answer i can think of is that you have been installing some of those worthless PC diagnostics programs which is doing this.

Are you getting this AFTER xp is loaded, or before? Is there anything to suggest its a message from a third party program? I know microsoft terminology, and those messages are NOT the kind they would use, even if such a feature existed.
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« Reply #13 on: 13 Oct 2005, 13:00 »
You typically need more than one virus-killer program to do a comprehensive cleaning of your hard drive. I can't suggest any free programs though, unfortunately.

And isn't it F8 that sends you to safe mode?
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Se7en

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« Reply #14 on: 13 Oct 2005, 13:02 »
ah right, smart is something totally different, very difficult to explain, and absolutely legitimate. Its not something thats used often, or crops up often.

It DOES seem likely that you could have a drive fault. Its quite possible however that it could totter along for years as it is, or there may honestly be nothing wrong with it.

Your going to need to run some test programs to see what sort of state the drive is in, and see if there are any problems that are actaully going to cause data loss.
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« Reply #15 on: 13 Oct 2005, 13:03 »
External HD for the win!

They rock.  I have one, I may get another.  They run off USB 2.0, and I don't notice any problems with transferring info between it and my computer.  It's instantaneous, so far as I've seen.

Incidentally; spinless... your avatar scares me.
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« Reply #16 on: 13 Oct 2005, 13:16 »
external drives are too slow and too expensive for me. I just use whatever leftovers i have. Im using a 160 SATA samsung, a 200 GB SATA seagate, and a 250 GB ATA hitachi at the moment, in various machines.

"backing up" for me, means shuffling important data around the network a bit.

Anyway, im racking my brains trying to think of the name of my usual hard drive test program.. ironically the programs only on my WD raptor test hard drive. I think...
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Luke

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« Reply #17 on: 13 Oct 2005, 13:17 »
...I have a 256MB jumper...

*feels very small*
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« Reply #18 on: 13 Oct 2005, 13:21 »
Check out your hard drive manufacturer's website for a bootable diagnostic tool.  Run that and see what it comes up with (just don't accidentally do something crazy like a low level format.)

I actually just lost an entire 60GB hard drive full of mp3s and movies.  The drive was kind of glitchy for years, and occasionally even lost a few files or folders, but I'd just back up the important data, reformat it and hope for the best.  Until it completely died on me.  So if you're going to continue to use the drive, I'd highly recommend backing it up as often as is reasonable, and if it shows any other signs of further decay, replace it before it's too late.
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« Reply #19 on: 13 Oct 2005, 17:15 »
Quote from: Spinless
The avatar is intended to give nightmares.


Try harder wee man! Thats all I can suggest ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 13 Oct 2005, 18:28 »
moved this into the computery section
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« Reply #21 on: 19 Oct 2005, 00:29 »
If all else fails, giant hard drives are quite inexpensive these days.  Check the  local Fry's Electronics (if you have such a beast) or somesuch.  And Pricegrabber.com is a good second.

And imaging software is nice too.  Makes life a lot easier...when my 40GB died, I did an image over to a 150GB...was totally painless with Acronis TrueImage.
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« Reply #22 on: 19 Oct 2005, 02:23 »
completely copy your hard drive onto a new one (or one you can borrow) and see if it comes up with the same error, if it does then it's a virus, if not, your curent HD is screwed
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« Reply #23 on: 19 Oct 2005, 02:40 »
Yeah but that means giving your new harddrive the virus too...

I recommend that when you do get setup again you get Zonelarm fire wall, AVG virus filter, Lavasoft Adaware and then use Panda Active scan on your computer periodically. I've used those 4 in tandem and I've never had a virus. ZoneAlarm can be tedious to setup, especially if you're playing games online but it's definately worth it in the long run.
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« Reply #24 on: 19 Oct 2005, 06:34 »
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Yeah but that means giving your new harddrive the virus too...

Who cares?  In order to image the drive you have to wipe it, so if the virus carries over then just wipe it again.  It's not like there's anything on there that got ruined.

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Acronis TrueImage.

I don't know much about cloning software for PCs so thanks for mentioning the name.  All I knew about is Norton Ghost; are there any other good options?
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« Reply #25 on: 19 Oct 2005, 11:02 »
Let me clarify: it probably ISNT a virus. S.M.A.R.T is a hard drive diagnostics standard that most drives support, but is never turned on, and is of limited use. If its giving a warning on boot up, its probably failing one or more of its start up tests, which are pretty basic.

Your going to have to find out the brand of hard drive you are using. Check in hardware manager, and see what the name of the disk is. Then google for the relevant test program for that brand of disk. Run it, and see what it says.

If you want to get rid of the messages, just go into the CMOS setup at boot (by pressing delete) and turn off SMART, probably in the advanced features menu.
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