Topic: Radiohead (Read 25024 times)

msouva · « **on:** 19 Oct 2005, 17:35 »

Okay, being a regular reader of these boards (on days that I can...) I must ask: what do you all think of Radiohead?

I read about all the indie rock stuff in the comic and hear about it here, but what about Radiohead? Am I the only person who thinks that these guys are the single most original band in the last 10 to 20 years? Just something about mixing up song structure and using futuristic themes works very well for these guys. Everything from The Bends on was (and still is) absolutly breathtaking, wholly captivating and very unique stuff.

As far as I'm concerned, no one else in the music world (that I've listened to) that is still together today has done as much for the progression of music as Radiohead.

But I'm just one silly new poster.

What does everyone else see in Radiohead? And how do I get unaddicted to them so that other music sounds good again?

soak · « **Reply #1 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 17:39 »

prepare the flame cannons!

Mel_of_hell · « **Reply #2 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 17:46 »

I've heard one thing by Radiohead, and it was pretty good. I don't remember much other than that...

Kai · « **Reply #3 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 17:52 »

This thread makes me want to shoot myself. Most original band in the last 10-20 years? not by a long shot. The music itself? Pretty bland, boring, and long drawn. Thom Yorke isn't a very good singer, and the music itself, to me, leaves alot to be desired. They me be the most original band and the greatest band ever and whatnot, but then again, you may possibly be the type of person to categorize Modest Mouse as "Experimental". Prog Rock's been done before, and in many a cases better. King Crimson (Pre 80's), Yes' first album, Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Zappa (Although not necessarily prog, is totally the best musician/composer in the last century, IMO, and is way more interesting than Radiohead), Fantomas, Praxis, Buckethead, and of course, my little favorite progressive/avantgarde/art group, The Residents.

Basically: Radiohead: Better than Limp Bizkit, not the most original band in the past 20 years.

sjbrot · « **Reply #4 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 17:58 »

Thom Yorke is a Yes fan! It makes sense!

But I don't think that msouva meant that they were "prog," but more that they brought music in general foward to a new level. I don't particulairly agree with that (I have always said that I believe their influence is negligle for the most part) but I still enjoy their music.

msouva · « **Reply #5 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 18:01 »

I really just tend to be the person who finds Thom Yorke to be a decent singer with really intersting electronica ideas that he incorperates quite well into his music.

And the music... I also find the music to be wonderful, interesting, requiring some thought and taste for their style.

I personally think that, while OK Computer is their best album by a longshot (with Paranoid Android being just amazing), all of their stuff from The Bends on (including Kid A and Amnesiac) has been very interesting, very unique music that just hits me square in the ears. I love it. The slow, lengthy, difficult songs, the random songs, the electronic songs... all of it appeals to me.

And I really think people who call Coldplay a similar band to Radiohead are foolish. Coldplay wishes they could be Radiohead.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #6 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 18:03 »

Quote from: Kai

Basically: Radiohead: Better than Limp Bizkit, not the most original band in the past 20 years.

Although Yorke better not try rapping anytime soon.

How can they be the most original band in the past 20 years? What about all the countless bands and musicians that have invented whole genres in that time?

What about fucking Skyclad? We are talking approximately seven billion squillion times better than Radiohead when we talk Skyclad.

Kai · « **Reply #7 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 18:05 »

I'm more of voicing my opinion on the band in general; they're usually called prog, so whatever. I don't personally think they're the most orignal band in the past 20 years, they haven't influenced popular culture as much as he says (Which is, despite me saying it, a shame; I'd rather have just "Meh" prog rock on the Radio than Green Day.)

Gryff · « **Reply #8 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 19:02 »

Well, I love Radiohead's music, but you are really making a huge overstatement when you say stuff like "ZOMG most original band EVAR!"

They are a very talented lot, but for some reason lots of people don't like them because they're either (a) "too much experimental noodling. Why don't they do more stuff like Ok Computer?" or (b) "not experimental enough. They sound like every other British rock band".

Whatever. I think Kid A has got to be one of my favourite albums of this century.

Kid Amnesiac · « **Reply #9 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 20:55 »

Dream Theatre is better than Radiohead? Motherfucking DREAM THEATRE?! Wow.......

Khar and Kai, you both should be stabbed in the ear. You're obviously not using them correctly.

1patheticloser · « **Reply #10 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 21:22 »

In the hopes of not further either sides' arguements, I shall simply say "I enjoy thier music."

Storm Rider · « **Reply #11 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 21:37 »

Quote from: Kid Amnesiac

Dream Theatre is better than Radiohead? Motherfucking DREAM THEATRE?! Wow.......

Khar and Kai, you both should be stabbed in the ear. You're obviously not using them correctly.

First of all, it's Theater. They're an American band.

Secondly, stop being a dick.

Garcin · « **Reply #12 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 22:03 »

Quote from: Radiohead

Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so fuckin special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin here?
I don't belong here
I don't belong here

See I've been trying to articulate and rationalize my loathing for this band. I'm not trying to convince anyone (nor do I think that you can convince someone intellectually about whether they like a song) -- it's more that I'm trying to explain it to myself. Here's what I came up with.

(1) I really, really dislike their lyrics. Their passionless, unimaginative, overly alienated, emoish, repetitive, chorus laden lyrics. Karma Police, my favorite song of the lot, has the epic "buzzes like a fridge" and "hitler hairdo". That's a high point for me.

(2) I hate the 1984 references. So painfully literal. So cliche. When I listened to Hail to the Thief I felt like I was being bludgeoned by Thom Yorke's message.

(3) Most of their songs sound like they were assembled in one of those air controlled labs where they manufacture microchips. There's no life that I can detect.

So yah, that's where I'm coming from, from the nay side. Maybe these dudes were influential, but as long as they didn't influence any group I actually enjoy, I couldn't care less.

Azathoth · « **Reply #13 on:** 19 Oct 2005, 22:05 »

Anyone who calls Radiohead prog is missing the point. Radiohead are obviously not competing with wankers like Dream Theater and they're not trying to out-weird the sophisticated, fart-based humor of Mike Patton. Besides, I don't think prog has come up with anything totally original in a long time. Prog's idea of inventing a genre is taking genre A and mixing it with genre B (who am I kidding, B is always metal) and pretty soon you have barber shop metal. Another orignal idea of prog musicians that has been done a million times before is playing in "goofy" time signatures which is "challenging".

Dream Theater, for all their musical ability, have never produced a note worth ripping off and after Kid A was released people said "Hey Thom, where did you get those cool textures?". There wasn't an album quite like it before and there hasn't been since no matter how much people have wanted to make one.

No one describes a Dream Theater song with "This sums up exactly how I feel.". No one falls in love to Dream Theater except maybe if it's over EverQuest. Radiohead would rather be judged by this criterea than their overall playing ability or how their songs look on paper. The point I'm making here is Radiohead is not prog and should not be compared to prog and that prog is dumb.

I enjoy Radiohead. Radiohead is not my favorite band but if they are yours, I'm not going to give you crap about it (and I do give people crap for their shitty taste in music).

And the best band ever is Spacemen 3.

It's also worth mentioning that you would have serious second thoughts about thinking Radiohead were the most original band in 20 years if you were to listen to Disco Inferno - DI Go Pop, My Bloody Valentine - Loveless or Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies.

Kid Modernist · « **Reply #14 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 00:45 »

I think Radiohead is pretty decent. They have a large amount of good songs, and a good amount of great songs. Yes, they are pretentious and overrated, but I'd rather a band lean on the over artistic than some band going "HEADSTRONG I'LL TAKE YOU ON. HEADSTRONG I'LL TAKE ON ANYONE" or some other such crap. I think most people say they hate Radiohead because they think it's cool too.

Se7en · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 00:53 »

I dont like radiohead because frankly, the music bores me to death. Really, they cant hold my attention for 3 minutes, so im not interested.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 02:08 »

Quote from: Azathoth

No one describes a Dream Theater song with "This sums up exactly how I feel.". No one falls in love to Dream Theater except maybe if it's over EverQuest. Radiohead would rather be judged by this criterea than their overall playing ability or how their songs look on paper. The point I'm making here is Radiohead is not prog and should not be compared to prog and that prog is dumb.
quote]

I think you're making a statement best described as 'fucking stupid and close minded' when you posit that no-one thinks any Dream Theater song describes how they feel.

Also, we're not talking about Dream Theater, we're talking about the hundreds of bands with more talent, soul and originality than Radiohead.

Mainly fucking Skyclad.

Quote from: Kid Amnesiac
Khar and Kai, you both should be stabbed in the ear. You're obviously not using them correctly.

Or maybe I should just listen to Radiohead, it's as painful.

Radiohead? Moer liek GAYDIOHEAD, amirite?

decklin · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 03:01 »

Well, I'm sure this is just the start of ye olde Radiohead backlash rearing its ugly head, but I'll share some thoughts.

The Bends and OK Computer are probably what I've given the most spins, historically, so I don't get the fantastically original thing. They did rock. They did it well, when a lot of their peers happened to be crap. (Or maybe this is just me. I stopped listening to much rock from about 1996 to 2003

.) They can write a damn good tune. And Thom's singing/lyrics, well, you like it or you don't.

Then Kid A came along and became this massive indie shibboleth. I was introduced to Pitchfork via a friend's link to their review of it. No sound on that album, even, is new. At all. I was listening to everything they pilfered for it at the time

. But, as they say, immature artists imitate, mature poets steal. They put it in a new context and changed the landscape a bit. Indie heads became a somewhat less parochial. It's not one of my particular favorites (save a few tracks) but it is richer than it is derivative and I think our perspective is deeper for it.

Amnesiac, on the other hand. Amnesiac is one of my favorite albums of all time. Now, go ahead and flame me away for this, but I read it as a transfiguration of/commentary on/reverse concordance to/cryptogrammatic reconfiguration of the phenomenology of Kid A (and the surface of all this that it managed to scratch at points) as I just described it. If the words "postmodern" or "deconstruction" make you want to leave the party, well, I didn't say you have to like what I like. But in this case I think convential indie wisdom has cheapened our collective experience, because convential indie wisdom is, well, dreadfully modernist, and doesn't leave much room for art beng about other art or reflexively about itself instead of about, well, sounding cool. Although that is changing. And I do not think any of this needs to have been intentional (or even was) on the part of Thom et al. Take that as you will.

Hail to the Thief is just utter crap. I should have just downloaded 2+2=5 and not wasted my money. I haven't the foggiest if they're going to regress further into "sounds cool" next time or actually pull out something conceptually interesting, but, well... I would say "I'll download it first this time" but it did last time and I still bought it (dunno what I was thinking. Other than it was on 0-week sale and I hadn't formed an opinion yet. Anyone wanna buy a used copy?)

decklin · « **Reply #18 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 03:05 »

Oh, and you probably want to read Amanda's "Insufferable Music Snob" series over at Pandagon if you want to understand the whole popular = not cool meme.

Radiowar · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 05:44 »

Radiohead are OK. Amnesiac is my favorite, the rest are pretty boring.

AdamIsConceited · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 05:48 »

I've tried my best to like them... but lost interest pretty fast. I've heard quite a few of their albums so I haven't made this decision based off of a single track.

Tinjessla · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 06:07 »

Kid Modernist summed it up really. I adore Radiohead (it's sort of a first love thing with me) but i can easily say they are more inventive bands out there.

Thrillho · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 08:48 »

I love them.

I don't care if anyone thinks they're shit, I don't even know if I think they're shit.

But they're one of my favourite bands. End.

tania · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 18:13 »

OK Computer has been on my "Top 10 albums" list for a while.
I'm not going to justify it or explain why because I don't really think I should have to. Feel free to debate all you want, but me; I like it, it sounds good. That's all I need.

Luke · « **Reply #24 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 18:57 »

I've heard only two songs by Radiohead, and have found both to be rather boring and unoriginal. I'm not impressed.

Gryff · « **Reply #25 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 19:11 »

This is not a dig Luke, but how can you like Coldplay, and not like radiohead as well? I'm pretty sure Mr Martin was very influenced by Mr Yorke.

This confuses me…

What were the songs you heard? Perhaps you were listening to the difficult post-OK Computer stuff. If this is the case I suggest going back to The Bends and OK Computer.

Luke · « **Reply #26 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 19:33 »

Frankly, I don't understand how (granted, this is based on what I have heard) people think Coldplay is influenced by Radiohead. One of the songs I heard was "Creep," and I don't remember the name of the other one.

soak · « **Reply #27 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 19:50 »

Try listening to the bends (album), the link may become more apparent.

Kai · « **Reply #28 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 20:01 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

Quote from: Kid Amnesiac
Khar and Kai, you both should be stabbed in the ear. You're obviously not using them correctly.

Or maybe I should just listen to Radiohead, it's as painful.

Radiohead? Moer liek GAYDIOHEAD, amirite?

<-------------SELLOUTZ!!1

Also: The Residents' Imaginary Jack... album (Bonus disk that came with Animal Lover) Is way better than at least the Radiohead that I've heard (Both OK Computer and Kid A.)

Gryff · « **Reply #29 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 20:20 »

Yeah Luke, 'Creep' is not really indicative of their work. you should totally give the Bends a try.

Also, W00t! Unecessary Residents references!

Kid Modernist · « **Reply #30 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 21:11 »

No! Give OK Computer a try! heh. I think The Bends is pretty boring minus 2 or 3 awesome songs.

1patheticloser · « **Reply #31 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 21:28 »

To preface this comment, I will state that to me, lyrics aren't as important as musicality, except in cases when the lyrics are so bad, no matter what the music sounds like, I can't take it (ie half of "With Teeth"). I enjoy musicians who use thier voices as an insturment adding to the musicality of the song, which is something that Mr. Yorke does rather well.

To all those who say that Radiohead has terrible lyrics, who writes better lyrics? What constitutes good lyrics? Pure emotion? Whining about some past experience? Something metaphoric and poetic?

sjbrot · « **Reply #32 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 22:42 »

No matter where you stand on the issue, I think most people can agree that most of Pablo Honey is rather mediocre.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #33 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 23:02 »

Pablo honey is the only radiohead album I like.

Not An Addict · « **Reply #34 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 23:05 »

"Creep": One of the best singles of the '90s. Everything else: crap.

If I read one more fucking "best albums ever" list with OK Computer on it I will explode. SUCKY. SUCKY SUCKY ALBUM.

MilkmanDan · « **Reply #35 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 03:55 »

My ears like Radiohead. They like Kid A the most and Pablo Honey the least. You can argue with this opinion, but you would be argueing with a pair of ears, and that's kinda silly.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #36 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 04:01 »

i figure that if i did like Radiohead, the pleasure i would derive from listening to their music wouldn't be enough to offset the aggravation caused by constantly defending them to people. so i have made a choice not to bother listening to them.

Thrillho · « **Reply #37 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 08:11 »

Quote from: sjbrot

No matter where you stand on the issue, I think most people can agree that most of Pablo Honey is rather mediocre.

I agree, but curiously, I find that the people I know who don't like Radiohead as a rule tend to like Pablo Honey and not the rest.

But then a lot of it is pretty standard radio-rock, really.

Merkava · « **Reply #38 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 12:47 »

Quote from: Not An Addict

"Creep": One of the best singles of the '90s. Everything else: crap.

If I read one more fucking "best albums ever" list with OK Computer on it I will explode. SUCKY. SUCKY SUCKY ALBUM.

How about no? Anyone who says that Creep is one of the best singles of any time is an idiot in my book.

Creep sucks.

It sucks.

Hard.

And fast.

Kid Modernist · « **Reply #39 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 13:15 »

Quote from: ImRonBurgundy?

i figure that if i did like Radiohead, the pleasure i would derive from listening to their music wouldn't be enough to offset the aggravation caused by constantly defending them to people. so i have made a choice not to bother listening to them.

Yeah, that's a smart way to form an opinion.

Thrillho · « **Reply #40 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 13:33 »

Quote from: Kid Modernist

Quote from: ImRonBurgundy?
i figure that if i did like Radiohead, the pleasure i would derive from listening to their music wouldn't be enough to offset the aggravation caused by constantly defending them to people. so i have made a choice not to bother listening to them.

Yeah, that's a smart way to form an opinion.

Indeed. There's a nice way of trumping anyone's argument against you liking Radiohead - 'I don't give a fuck what you think.'

Ã¶de · « **Reply #41 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 13:36 »

I like the noises they make.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #42 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 16:50 »

i wouldn't piss in thom yorkes aer if his brain was on fire.

Switchblade · « **Reply #43 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 16:52 »

I've never really bothered to listen to them in all honesty. I can't claim to like or dislike them either way, because I've just never actually listened to enough Radiohead to form an opinion.

Which would suggest that it's so unmemorable that I totally fail to register it.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #44 on:** 21 Oct 2005, 23:38 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid

Quote from: Kid Modernist
Yeah, that's a smart way to form an opinion.

Indeed. There's a nice way of trumping anyone's argument against you liking Radiohead - 'I don't give a fuck what you think.'

yes, well, i have a few friends who taunt me endlessly about my musical tastes as it is. and besides, none of the music that i've happened to hear from Radiohead has done much to excite me.

rive gauche · « **Reply #45 on:** 24 Oct 2005, 09:03 »

Quote from: decklin

Well, I'm sure this is just the start of ye olde Radiohead backlash rearing its ugly head, but I'll share some thoughts.

The Bends and OK Computer are probably what I've given the most spins, historically, so I don't get the fantastically original thing. They did rock. They did it well, when a lot of their peers happened to be crap. (Or maybe this is just me. I stopped listening to much rock from about 1996 to 2003 .) They can write a damn good tune. And Thom's singing/lyrics, well, you like it or you don't.

Then Kid A came along and became this massive indie shibboleth. I was introduced to Pitchfork via a friend's link to their review of it. No sound on that album, even, is new. At all. I was listening to everything they pilfered for it at the time . But, as they say, immature artists imitate, mature poets steal. They put it in a new context and changed the landscape a bit. Indie heads became a somewhat less parochial. It's not one of my particular favorites (save a few tracks) but it is richer than it is derivative and I think our perspective is deeper for it.

Amnesiac, on the other hand. Amnesiac is one of my favorite albums of all time. Now, go ahead and flame me away for this, but I read it as a transfiguration of/commentary on/reverse concordance to/cryptogrammatic reconfiguration of the phenomenology of Kid A (and the surface of all this that it managed to scratch at points) as I just described it. If the words "postmodern" or "deconstruction" make you want to leave the party, well, I didn't say you have to like what I like. But in this case I think convential indie wisdom has cheapened our collective experience, because convential indie wisdom is, well, dreadfully modernist, and doesn't leave much room for art beng about other art or reflexively about itself instead of about, well, sounding cool. Although that is changing. And I do not think any of this needs to have been intentional (or even was) on the part of Thom et al. Take that as you will.

Hail to the Thief is just utter crap. I should have just downloaded 2+2=5 and not wasted my money. I haven't the foggiest if they're going to regress further into "sounds cool" next time or actually pull out something conceptually interesting, but, well... I would say "I'll download it first this time" but it did last time and I still bought it (dunno what I was thinking. Other than it was on 0-week sale and I hadn't formed an opinion yet. Anyone wanna buy a used copy?)

This is one of the most masturbatory things I have ever read. How long did you search through the thesaurus before you found the word "parochial"?

Bob the Guitar · « **Reply #46 on:** 24 Oct 2005, 09:35 »

To be fair, parochial isn't a particularly unusual word.

Willem · « **Reply #47 on:** 24 Oct 2005, 09:41 »

I never heard hail to the thief so i can't judge that cd but the rest Was all at least okay. Pablo Honey is quite mediocre in my opinion though creep really is a nice track (don't chop my head off please). Not one of the best ever, not one of the best of radiohead, but it does make me smile. I can't remember any of the other tracks despite hearing the cd about 10 times.

After that the bends is far better, indeed more useful to learn about radiohead than by listening to creep. But not very brilliant (the video for street spirit IS brilliant though).
OK Computer is still in my top 5 albums ever made (but that top 5 includes nirvana, Velvet underground+Nico, Pearl Jam and the stooges too so I guess you won't take me too serious when it comes to musical taste). Can't explain why exactly, it just is.
Kid A and Amnesiac are nice too. Kid A was something I never heard before (which doesn't mean it's innovative, I have less than 200 cd's and the radio channel i hear mainly plays music for angry teens so there's a lot of music I don't know yet) and which i liked. Amnesiac never really did it for me. It's better than Pablo Honey but not something I play often.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #48 on:** 24 Oct 2005, 10:03 »

Quote from: rive gauche

How long did you search through the thesaurus before you found the word "parochial"?

Actually, I think a better question is, 'how long did you have to search through the dictionary before you found "parochial"?'

Vocabulary n00b.

Thrillho · « **Reply #49 on:** 24 Oct 2005, 10:16 »

Quote from: rive gauche

Quote from: decklin
Well, I'm sure this is just the start of ye olde Radiohead backlash rearing its ugly head, but I'll share some thoughts.

The Bends and OK Computer are probably what I've given the most spins, historically, so I don't get the fantastically original thing. They did rock. They did it well, when a lot of their peers happened to be crap. (Or maybe this is just me. I stopped listening to much rock from about 1996 to 2003 .) They can write a damn good tune. And Thom's singing/lyrics, well, you like it or you don't.

Then Kid A came along and became this massive indie shibboleth. I was introduced to Pitchfork via a friend's link to their review of it. No sound on that album, even, is new. At all. I was listening to everything they pilfered for it at the time . But, as they say, immature artists imitate, mature poets steal. They put it in a new context and changed the landscape a bit. Indie heads became a somewhat less parochial. It's not one of my particular favorites (save a few tracks) but it is richer than it is derivative and I think our perspective is deeper for it.

Amnesiac, on the other hand. Amnesiac is one of my favorite albums of all time. Now, go ahead and flame me away for this, but I read it as a transfiguration of/commentary on/reverse concordance to/cryptogrammatic reconfiguration of the phenomenology of Kid A (and the surface of all this that it managed to scratch at points) as I just described it. If the words "postmodern" or "deconstruction" make you want to leave the party, well, I didn't say you have to like what I like. But in this case I think convential indie wisdom has cheapened our collective experience, because convential indie wisdom is, well, dreadfully modernist, and doesn't leave much room for art beng about other art or reflexively about itself instead of about, well, sounding cool. Although that is changing. And I do not think any of this needs to have been intentional (or even was) on the part of Thom et al. Take that as you will.

Hail to the Thief is just utter crap. I should have just downloaded 2+2=5 and not wasted my money. I haven't the foggiest if they're going to regress further into "sounds cool" next time or actually pull out something conceptually interesting, but, well... I would say "I'll download it first this time" but it did last time and I still bought it (dunno what I was thinking. Other than it was on 0-week sale and I hadn't formed an opinion yet. Anyone wanna buy a used copy?)

This is one of the most masturbatory things I have ever read. How long did you search through the thesaurus before you found the word "parochial"?

Are you fucking kidding?

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msouva

soak

Mel_of_hell

sjbrot

msouva

Kid Amnesiac

1patheticloser

Garcin

Azathoth

Kid Modernist

Se7en

decklin

decklin

AdamIsConceited

Tinjessla

Luke

Luke

soak

Kid Modernist

1patheticloser

sjbrot

SeanBateman

Not An Addict

MilkmanDan

Merkava

Kid Modernist

rive gauche

Bob the Guitar

Willem