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1patheticloser:
In the hopes of not further either sides' arguements, I shall simply say "I enjoy thier music."

Storm Rider:

--- Quote from: Kid Amnesiac ---Dream Theatre is better than Radiohead? Motherfucking DREAM THEATRE?! Wow.......

Khar and Kai, you both should be stabbed in the ear. You're obviously not using them correctly.
--- End quote ---


First of all, it's Theater. They're an American band.

Secondly, stop being a dick.

Garcin:

--- Quote from: Radiohead ---
Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so fuckin special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin here?
I don't belong here
I don't belong here

--- End quote ---


See I've been trying to articulate and rationalize my loathing for this band.  I'm not trying to convince anyone (nor do I think that you can convince someone intellectually about whether they like a song) -- it's more that I'm trying to explain it to myself.  Here's what I came up with.

(1)  I really, really dislike their lyrics.  Their passionless, unimaginative, overly alienated, emoish, repetitive, chorus laden lyrics.  Karma Police, my favorite song of the lot, has the epic "buzzes like a fridge" and "hitler hairdo".  That's a high point for me.

(2) I hate the 1984 references.  So painfully literal.  So cliche.  When I listened to Hail to the Thief I felt like I was being bludgeoned by Thom Yorke's message.

(3) Most of their songs sound like they were assembled in one of those air controlled labs where they manufacture microchips.  There's no life that I can detect.

So yah, that's where I'm coming from, from the nay side.  Maybe these dudes were influential, but as long as they didn't influence any group I actually enjoy, I couldn't care less.

Azathoth:
Anyone who calls Radiohead prog is missing the point.  Radiohead are obviously not competing with wankers like Dream Theater and they're not trying to out-weird the sophisticated, fart-based humor of Mike Patton.   Besides, I don't think prog has come up with anything totally original in a long time.  Prog's idea of inventing a genre is taking genre A and mixing it with genre B (who am I kidding, B is always metal) and pretty soon you have barber shop metal.  Another orignal idea of prog musicians that has been done a million times before is playing in "goofy" time signatures which is "challenging".  

Dream Theater, for all their musical ability, have never produced a note worth ripping off and after Kid A was released people said "Hey Thom, where did you get those cool textures?".  There wasn't an album quite like it before and there hasn't been since no matter how much people have wanted to make one.

No one describes a Dream Theater song with "This sums up exactly how I feel.".  No one falls in love to Dream Theater except maybe if it's over EverQuest.   Radiohead would rather be judged by this criterea than their overall playing ability or how their songs look on paper.  The point I'm making here is Radiohead is not prog and should not be compared to prog and that prog is dumb.
 
I enjoy Radiohead.  Radiohead is not my favorite band but if they are yours, I'm not going to give you crap about it (and I do give people crap for their shitty taste in music).

And the best band ever is Spacemen 3.

It's also worth mentioning that you would have serious second thoughts about thinking Radiohead were the most original band in 20 years if you were to listen to Disco Inferno - DI Go Pop, My Bloody Valentine - Loveless or Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies.

Kid Modernist:
I think Radiohead is pretty decent. They have a large amount of good songs, and a good amount of great songs. Yes, they are pretentious and overrated, but I'd rather a band lean on the over artistic than some band going "HEADSTRONG I'LL TAKE YOU ON. HEADSTRONG I'LL TAKE ON ANYONE" or some other such crap. I think most people say they hate Radiohead because they think it's cool too.

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