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Lutharion:
Hmm, still a bit confused. I guess I should just start practicing with a few thinsg for a while. Any suggestions other than the webmonkey to get started?

Valrus:
Start with HTML. Once you feel you've got it down pretty well and you can code a basic website without having to look up too many tags, try to pick up some CSS.

CSS stands for Cascading Style Sheets. It's basically used to take the formatting out of an HTML page, and to make sure that you don't have font tags and shit every time you want to change your page's appearance. Once you get a good CSS page, you're set, and you won't have to worry about formatting your HTML pages anymore. Also, you can use one CSS page for multiple HTML pages, thus ensuring that all pages of your site have a consistent style.

decklin:
What Valrus said.

CSS is very important if you're going to be doing any sort of dynamic content, because it lets you keep your style information (how this should look, where it should appear, etc) separate from the actual information on the page.

For a comic site, for example, there would be a consistent style included on all pages, but for each comic page your PHP or whatever would spit out the HTML to include a different comic.

For books on CSS, I like Eric Meyer, but that's a bit intermediate-advanced. You would probably get the most out of _Beginning Web Programming with HTML, XHTML, and CSS_ by Duckett.

(I am biting! my! tongue! about w3schools :))

Valrus:

--- Quote from: decklin ---(I am biting! my! tongue! about w3schools :))
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Um, this is another one of those instances where I just did a quick Google search and linked to the first result. So don't take my comment as an endorsement of the quality of w3schools.

Honestly, though, anyone who can't figure out how to find a CSS tutorial using Google probably isn't going to have too good a time actually learning CSS. Or HTML. Or, for that matter, making a web comic. Or, probably, chewing food.

Anyway, my point is that I won't be offended if you offer other suggestions for places to learn CSS without paying money for the privilege. There are probably some really good tutorials out there, I just don't know what any of them are. For some reason. Where the hell did I learn CSS, anyway?

jhocking:

--- Quote from: Valrus ---Where the hell did I learn CSS, anyway?
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You probably learned it the same way I did: not from any one source, but little bits and pieces from a couple dozen pages, found through google whenever you had something additional to look up.


@lutharion: decklin is right about the relationship of HTML to programming.  It's not an "instead of" thing; you're always dealing with HTML.  The difference between a site that uses PHP (or whatever) and a site that doesn't is who wrote the HTML, you or the computer.  Which, considering you're just starting out, means that you should definitely get comfortable with HTML first.  As they've been saying, the skills are a pretty logical progression: first learn HTML, then start learning about CSS, then turn to web programming.

Incidentally, this progression nicely mirrors the progression of a website, so have no fear about starting your site with primitive skills.  The advantages of CSS only really kick in once you have a lot of content (ie. pages,) and that's even more true of programming.  When you're just starting a webcomic, you don't have many pages to deal with so writing all the HTML by hand is perfectly manageable.

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