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JLM:
You had me then you lost me with that last comment.  Stereotyping when it comes to music is one thing, but when you extend that out to include members of ethnic groups, religions, races, etc. then saying that "Stereotypes are almost always true" implies something else.

Sideways:
I should've been more clear... and more precise.  Stereotypes that aren't racially motivated are typically true.  As soon as you bring something which can invoke an emotional bias into the equation, you can no longer properly account for an accurate judgement.

Granted, you could use this same argument to claim that a stereotype of people who listen to Indie rock can't be accurate, because the people purporting this stereotype are going to have a bias against the music/culture... and that's valid too, I suppose.

I have simply noted, in my short time on this planet, that stereotypes are usually there for a reason, and it's always unique to meet someone who doesn't fit into a 'mold' of any sort.

That's all i really meant... but I ramble, and rant, and become unclear the longer the post gets... so I should really try to keep things succinct.

*EDIT:

To address the issue of religious stereotypes, I do think they tend to be true.  After all, in order to consider yourself a member of a religion, you have to follow that religion's doctrine... and the stereotypes are going to be based upon those doctrines, right?  Ethnic and racial stereotypes are untrue, and unfair, because these are individuals with different traditions, backgrounds, educations, dreams, talents, etc.  Religious stereotypes are valid, IMHO, because these are all people who are following the word of god, god(s), whatever... they all have that shared fundamental aspect of their lives.

Valrus:
Sideways: Unfortunately, I think you need to be more precise still, to wit: What exactly does "true" mean in reference to a stereotype? That it accurately describes every single person it purports to? I doubt that you'd agree with that. Since a stereotype is, by definition, a generalization about many people, saying that it's "true" could mean a lot of different things.

Sideways:
If the stereotype itself is based upon a commonly known fact, shared amongst everyone in the target group, then I consider it to be true.

Goth kids wear black.  You see, it's a stereotype, but in order to be considered a Goth kid you /have/ to wear black... therefore it is true, 100% of the time.  If you just listen to industrial music, exclusively, but dress in cardigans, blazers and khakis, you're not a Goth Kid, therefore you're not /breaking/ the stereotype, rather; you don't fit into the group that the stereotype is based upon.

Am i making any sense?

ASturge:
Bo!

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