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ruyi

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Re: state of music today
« Reply #50 on: 22 Dec 2006, 01:26 »

the key difference between today and the past is that music is more easily distributed today. as for actual quality, i suppose statistically speaking it's probably safe to assume there hasn't been a difference so long as the human species has not changed much. technology for producing music has improved, but that isn't what makes good music good - it just gives more instruments to the musician.
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #51 on: 22 Dec 2006, 01:46 »

as for actual quality, i suppose statistically speaking it's probably safe to assume there hasn't been a difference so long as the human species has not changed much. technology for producing music has improved, but that isn't what makes good music good - it just gives more instruments to the musician.

I dont think that we'll see another Giant Steps, Kind of Blue or Free Jazz* in the near and not so near future.


*Although, we do have John Zorn (Naked City's first album, for example).
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #52 on: 24 Dec 2006, 08:28 »

its not the music that I hate as much as the suggestive styles.  Musical styles rub off on people in ways that can include: angry, horny, apathetic, sad, slutty, dumb, insecure, conservative, liberal etc. So the point that i'm thinking of is that lyrics aren't the only thing that matters. It's more of a style thing that I worry about today. Tougher rap makes tougher thugs. Non-creative rock makes careless, brainless zombies. Country makes conservatives. Screamo, Emo, and Industrial can inspire anger, anxt and evilness. Etcetera

Even if music isn't a direct influence on people.  The musical subcultures (scenes) and friend's that listen to a particular band can be an strong influence.

The state of music today is bad because people who have conditioned themselves to like a musical type played on the radio are less likely to condition themself to a new style. And it just so happens that I hear mainly crap on the radio today.
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #53 on: 24 Dec 2006, 08:33 »

Hang on, you raggin on industrial? I mean what the fuck? you have any idea what industrials fucking about?

I mean, take even the most fucking populist industrial, Ministry say.

I've seen 'em live, the best moment of the concert? the fucking all in one crowd unity moment?

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Re: state of music today
« Reply #54 on: 25 Dec 2006, 01:42 »

Hang on, you raggin on industrial? I mean what the fuck? you have any idea what industrials fucking about?

I mean, take even the most fucking populist industrial, Ministry say.

I've seen 'em live, the best moment of the concert? the fucking all in one crowd unity moment?

The sample: "kill! Kill! Kill! Kill! YOU. WILL. NOT. KILL!"

Surely you're not serious, Khar. For one thing, this would be hilarious hypocritical of you. For another, the guy spells it 'anxt.'
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #55 on: 25 Dec 2006, 02:42 »

im not ragging on industrial. I remember listening to bauhaus and coil in my hayday. The point of my topic should be apparent even if the examples arent the greatest.

oh, and grammar and spellcheck perfectionists should all die. Like seriously. Drop down in a fetal position and croak.
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #56 on: 25 Dec 2006, 05:25 »

Besides, it was an ironic aside to my post which was predominantly focused on Khar, mere days after his 'indie is wank and has been for twenty years' taking offence to an unintentional 'industrial is all shit.'
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #57 on: 25 Dec 2006, 08:03 »

Not what he said, nor what I took offence to.

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Re: state of music today
« Reply #58 on: 25 Dec 2006, 14:24 »

Hang on, you raggin on industrial? I mean what the fuck? you have any idea what industrials fucking about?

Yes, how stupid of me.
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #59 on: 25 Dec 2006, 23:14 »

the key difference between today and the past is that music is more easily distributed today. as for actual quality, i suppose statistically speaking it's probably safe to assume there hasn't been a difference so long as the human species has not changed much. technology for producing music has improved, but that isn't what makes good music good - it just gives more instruments to the musician.

Well, duh.   :-D
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #60 on: 25 Dec 2006, 23:57 »

as for actual quality, i suppose statistically speaking it's probably safe to assume there hasn't been a difference so long as the human species has not changed much. technology for producing music has improved, but that isn't what makes good music good - it just gives more instruments to the musician.

I dont think that we'll see another Giant Steps, Kind of Blue or Free Jazz* in the near and not so near future.


*Although, we do have John Zorn (Naked City's first album, for example).


Can we go back to talking about Jazz, guys?
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Re: state of music today
« Reply #61 on: 27 Dec 2006, 06:43 »

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