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« on: 03 Dec 2005, 15:02 »
What're some absolutely vital metal albums every idiot who enjoys metal should own?
I have a definite feeling there are a lot I'm missing...

Black Sabbath: Paranoid
Iron Maiden: Number of the Beast through Seventh Son.
Judas Priest: Painkiller, Screaming for Vengenance
Metallica: Master of Puppets
Apocalyptica: Reflections
Lacuna Coil: Halflife EP
Megadeth: Megadeth EP
Wintersun: Wintersun
Demonoid: Riders of the Apocalypse
Sirenia: At Sixes and Sevens, An Elixir for Existence
Tristania: Widow's Weeds

Yeah, that's mildly pathetic.
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« Reply #1 on: 03 Dec 2005, 15:53 »
Helloween - Walls Of Jericho
Metallica - Kill 'Em All (even though I don't really like it much)
Liquid Tension Experiment - s/t
Sabbat - Dreamweaver (it's all I have by 'em, but from what I can tell, very important stuff)
Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force
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« Reply #2 on: 03 Dec 2005, 16:04 »
If Lacuna Coil has one at all it's Comalies. Demonoid and Sirenia are a bit too obscure for 'essential', I would say. I mean, when you say essential, you're looking for the definitive stuff, the stuff that's important to understanding the history and evolution of metal, or just the plain awesome stuff.

I would personally say:

Acid Bath - When The Kite String Pops
Amorphis - Tales from the Thousand Lakes
Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa
Atheist - Piece Of Time
At The Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours
Ayreon - Into the Electric Castle
Bathory - Bathory
Bathory - Blood on Ice
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Burzum - Burzum/Aske
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery
Death - Human
Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane
Edge of Sanity - Purgatory Afterglow
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Exodus - Bonded By Blood
Immortal - Battles in the North
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Judas Priest - British Steel
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Kreator - Pleasure to Kill
Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Metal Church - Metal Church
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Ministry - Psalm 69
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Moonspell - Irreligious
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans
Napalm Death - Scum
Paradise Lost - Gothic
Sabbat - History of a Time to Come
Sepultura - Arise
Skyclad - Wayward Sons of Mother Earth
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear
Therion - Theli
Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
Type O Negative - October Rust
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal
Venom - Black Metal


...I'll stop now because I'm just going ott, but all those albums are awesome. And if you have a handle on them all, you'll be able to talk the talk, metal-wise. Plus, you should also of course, know your roots: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Rainbow, Jimmy Hendrix, Uriah Heep, Thin Lizzy etc.
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« Reply #3 on: 03 Dec 2005, 16:36 »
Quick question for Khar (or whoever): I noticed Burzum is on your list, but nothing by Dimmu Borgir. Are they out of favor or do I just have crappy taste in symphonic black metal?

...and I'd suggest Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia by Dimmu Borgir. That's all I can really add to the lists, though.
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« Reply #4 on: 03 Dec 2005, 16:38 »
Dimmu are a bit boring, and muchos out of favour nowadays. Their old stuff is good, but I really wouldn't say essential. I mean, you could probably actually make a case for, say, Cradle of Filth's 'Dark Faerytales...' simply for it's influence, but I wouldn't put DB on an all-time list.

You should try Illnath and Cryptic Wintermoon if you enjoy that sort of thing btw.
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« Reply #5 on: 03 Dec 2005, 17:02 »
Is Symphony of Sorrows by Death, or am I on crack?
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« Reply #6 on: 03 Dec 2005, 17:25 »
Crack. I can't even think of an album with that title.

You don't mean Grave Digger - Symphony of Death, maybe?
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« Reply #7 on: 03 Dec 2005, 18:07 »
While I'm not the biggest metal fan I'd say that 3 Inches of Blood's Advance and Vanquish is definately a classic metal album despite it's recent release.
As already mentioned, Slayer's Reign in Blood is a must.
Everything else of importance has been covered I'd say.
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« Reply #8 on: 03 Dec 2005, 18:26 »
Actually, you're right.

Advance and Vanquish is pretty much a distillation of a lot of classic metal bands. It's about as original as Coldplay, but grade A awesome. Pure fun.
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« Reply #9 on: 03 Dec 2005, 18:40 »
Thanks for the info, guys.  Much appreciated.
I can cross off...four on the big list and none anywhere else?
Heh.  THere go all my decision making problems.
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« Reply #10 on: 03 Dec 2005, 18:46 »
What's the Metallica album with Four Leaf Clover on it? That one song is worth any crap Metallica has done.
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« Reply #11 on: 03 Dec 2005, 19:00 »
Symbolic and Sound of Preserverance are both pretty fucking great Death albums too.

Also:

Metallica: Ride the Lightning (their best IMO), Master of Puppets
Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?, Rust In Peace
Testament - The New Order, Practice What You Preach
Iced Earth - Something Wicked This Way Comes
Exodus - Bonded by Blood
Black Sabbath - Paranoid, Heaven and Hell
Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding
Dio - Holy Diver (I can't believe nobody mentioned it yet)
Iron Maiden - S/T, The Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, Somewhere in Time
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Symphony X - Divine Wings of Tragedy

I kind of want to say The Odyssey too, but it's only 2 years old.
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« Reply #12 on: 03 Dec 2005, 19:16 »
The Chemical Wedding is fucking excellent, but essential? For old-school metal maybe.

And for an Iced Earth album, I would personally choose 'The Horror Show'.
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« Reply #13 on: 04 Dec 2005, 08:56 »
Carcass - Heartwork  (Yeah, yeah, save it.  I know someone is going to say everything after Symphonies is shit, but this CD was instrumental to my fledging guitar development.  I pay it highest honors)


Khar:  You'd go with Nightside over Anthems?  Same with Red in the Sky over Slaughter of the Soul?  Eh, oh well.  Thank god you put Storm of the Light's Bane on your list.  I would have lost all faith in you otherwise.
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« Reply #14 on: 04 Dec 2005, 09:31 »
I wouldn't necessarily put Nightside over Anthems to The Welkin in quality,  but in influence? Fuck yes. Check most lists of influential black metal albums and it will be In The Nightside Eclipse and maybe the Emperor/Enslaved Split. It's one of the albums that pretty much set the pace for the whole second wave of black metal.

Also, I actually think Slaughter of the Soul is better than The Red in the Sky, but I decided to go for the earlier one because, again, influence. The Red in the Sky was about the time the whole Gothenburg scene was really kick-starting. I should have just gone with my instincts. I was trying to be all balanced and whatnot though.

And I agree on Heartwork. I'm not really into death metal to a great degree, so I always forget shit like that. A list of essential black metal or folk metal albums I could do you with my eyes closed.
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« Reply #15 on: 04 Dec 2005, 11:14 »
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Why the fuck did I forget this? I fucking love this album.
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« Reply #16 on: 04 Dec 2005, 11:45 »
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Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?, Rust In Peace


THANK YOU! Jesus, I was starting to think nobody would mention Rust In Peace. Also Countdown to Extinction, IMO.
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« Reply #17 on: 04 Dec 2005, 14:39 »
Countdown to Extinction is a very erratic album, but RIP and Peace Sells are consistently great. That's why I listed them.
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« Reply #18 on: 04 Dec 2005, 21:14 »
Am I the only person here who sees a problem with the listing of only one of Black Sabbath's first 4 albums?
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« Reply #19 on: 04 Dec 2005, 21:25 »
I kind of already know the answer to this, but am I the only person who would include Anthrax - Among The Living over any of Metallica or Megadeth's efforts?
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« Reply #20 on: 05 Dec 2005, 00:12 »
Probably. I can maybe see it along-side, but I was never a big Anthrax fan.
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« Reply #21 on: 05 Dec 2005, 00:28 »
I suppose it depends on how I am looking at essential.

If you are talking the classics that defined genres, then  you guys pretty much got them down.

On the other hand the twenty albums I consider MUST owns is slightly different in perspective.

Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors
Strapping Young Lad - City (I also think this belongs on the above style list because of it's influence)
Ayreon - The Human Equation
Therion - Deggial
Devin Townsend - Ocean Machines
Voivod - Nothingface
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Nevermore - Dead Heart, In a Dead World
In Flames - Whoracle
Hypocrisy - Abducted
Death - The Sound of Perseverence
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
Nile - in Their darkened Shrines
Samael - Eternal
Bloodbath - Ressurection Through Carnage
Soilwork - Natural Born Chaos
Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape
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« Reply #22 on: 05 Dec 2005, 01:13 »
I'm generally agreeing with the bands but not so much the choice of albums. You'd chose Deggial over Theli? Whoracle over Clayman (or indeed In Flames at all...should be swapped out with an Edge of Sanity or Dark Tranquillity record imo)? The Sham Mirrors over Le Masquerade Infernale? Ressurection Through Carnage over both Nightmares Made Flesh and the Breeding Death EP? Morbid Tales over To Mega Therion? (Come on, Jewelled THRONE!) Well, fair enough. It's all a subjective matter, certainly, and there is a lot of play in some of them. But Aieee, there's not enough black metal on yon list. Much as I like the modern melo/prog scene, I don't think it's necessary to own two mordern-ish MDM albums and only one proper(ish) black metal album, especially with so much related stuff like Hypocrisy and Opeth there. 'Black Metal' by Venom should at least be on the list.

I heartily agree with the Sigh and the Ayreon in particular though. Sound of Perseverance I recognise as good, just I never really got into it. Voice of the fucking Soul though...and why I do think Opeth are getting very over-rated nowadays, there is still always a soft spot in my heart for Blackwater Park.

Actually, maybe I should just put together my own fucking list :)
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« Reply #23 on: 05 Dec 2005, 01:25 »
I'm actually in agreement on the MDM statement, but those albums hold a major place in my heart and I was being a touch favourtist.

As to the album agreements, I could justify my choices, and I bet you could justify yours, and in essence we'd be both right.

Too justify one though. Ressurection over the Ep and Nightmares because it's the extended love of the EP, with Mikael on vocals (the original incarnation) and thus best sums em up IMO. But I actually think that you could trade off for Nightmares without a blink (Peters vox are so inhumanly sharp).


If I were to alter anything it would be to remove In Flames and Bloodbath, add Limbonic Art - Moon in the Scorpio and Sleep - Dopesmoker.

None the less, my personal tastes asides, I think Venom belongs int he seminal metal albums listing as opposed to the list I would use to expose people to my peculiar tastes.

I mean...Venom ARE one of those bands that anyone wanting to learn/know metal should be exposed to.
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« Reply #24 on: 05 Dec 2005, 15:32 »
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Not as much as I have a problem with nobody mentioning Heaven and Hell or Mob Rules.

Edit: And Anthrax is a little too punk-influenced for me, to be honest.
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« Reply #25 on: 05 Dec 2005, 16:28 »
Ah, your personal 20...I see what you were going for. Your personal essential metal albums. Sorry to jump on ya.

Mine would probably be:

Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics
Agalloch - Pale Folklore
Amorphis - Tales From the Thousand Lakes
Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa
Bathory - Blood on Ice
Burzum - Burzum
Carpathian Forest - Defending the Throne of Evil
Crotchduster - Big Fat Box of Shit
Edge of Sanity - Purgatory Afterglow
Ewigkeit - Radio Ixtlan
Finntroll - Midnatten's Widunder
Immortal - Damned in Black
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans
Skyclad - Prince of the Poverty Line
Star One - Space Metal
Therion - Lemuria
Venom - Black Metal
Waylander - Reawakening Pride Once Lost
Wuthering Heights - Far From the Madding Crowd

Yeah, I mean, mine would be a lot more subjective, looking at it. Five star albums all though.

Also, I totally love this topic.
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« Reply #26 on: 05 Dec 2005, 19:36 »
The greatest heavy metal album of all time is "Reign in Blood."  There is no room for argument on this fact, I will never change my mind, not even with a car battery hooked up to my nipples.

Other shit that totally rules:

Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
Life of Agony - River Runs Red
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Carcass - Necroticism
Napalm Death - Scum/From Enslavement to Obliteration
Deicide - Deicide
Exhumed - Gore Metal
Bolt Thrower - Warmaster
Helmet - Meantime
Marduk - Heaven Shall Burn...
Mastodon - Leviathan
Nile - Amongst the Catacombs of the Nephran-Ka

I dunno, that's just some rad shit I've been listening to lately.  Atheist and Suffocation especially.

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« Reply #27 on: 06 Dec 2005, 06:27 »
That's the best list yet, since it includes Nile, Helmet, Deicide and Bolt Thrower.
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« Reply #28 on: 06 Dec 2005, 07:27 »
I'll always consider Nile fairly revolutionary.  Karl being one of the coolest guys I've ever known notwithstanding, Nephren-Ka was amazing.  No one else punished a theory so much as they did and still made every track enjoyable.  Harmonic minor never sounded so good.
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« Reply #29 on: 06 Dec 2005, 08:28 »
Nile are one of those bands that overwhelmed me on my first listen and it took two more listens for me to understand and appreciate what I was hearing.

They ARE brilliant and Sanders is a superb composer.
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« Reply #30 on: 06 Dec 2005, 10:51 »
Bolt Thrower are a great band, but I wouldn't see them as essential. I mean, they play good fucking death metal, but they didn't revolutionise much. Then again, I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to DM, so fair enough. Same again with Deicide: yeah, it's fun to sing along with 'Blame It on God' or 'Scars of the Crucifix' but it's pretty mundane stuff. Nile though, fuck yes. Behemoth as well, in the same vein.

Helmet I could never really see the appeal in, but over-all I suppose I just don't really like the classic 'american metal' sound that much. I mean, I like swampy deep south sort of stuff, in particular Acid Bath and Danzig, but also Alabama Thunderpussy and the whole southern sludge scene a-la Eyehategod to an extent, but not so much say, Pantera, or a lot of Bay Area thrash. My main hots have always been mainly for British and Scandinavian shit.  

Also, am I really the only person alive who prefers 'Panzer Division Marduk' to 'Heaven Shall Burn...'? Yeah, I know it's fucking heresy, but I can't help it, Panzer Division is so fucking fun.
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« Reply #31 on: 06 Dec 2005, 14:45 »
Say what you will, but I have always actively despised Deicide almost as much as Cannibal Corpse and cannot for the life of me get their appeal.

Maybe I'm just different that way.

Bolt Thrower I will admit are awesome. :D
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« Reply #32 on: 06 Dec 2005, 19:56 »
That list is a combination of stuff I think is essential, and stuff that I've been listening to constantly lately.  And I'll add to it.

Cynic - Focus (To quote a review I read, "it's like three Dream Theater albums playing at once."  But better, 'cos I don't really like Dream Theater.)
Vader - Litany (my Vader-appreciation is very new, from what I understand it's not their best, but I had to start somewhere)
Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Altered States of America (I would say this is pretty damn essential, it's one of the sickest straight-up, pure grind albums I've ever had the pleasure of hearing.)

I'm surprised that you despise Deicide and Cannibal Corpse, yet said nothing about Exhumed.  Those guys very much have their tongues in cheek.

And yes, Bolt Thrower fucking rules.
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« Reply #33 on: 06 Dec 2005, 21:25 »
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Over-all I suppose I just don't really like the classic 'american metal' sound that much. I mean, I like swampy deep south sort of stuff, in particular Acid Bath and Danzig, but also Alabama Thunderpussy and the whole southern sludge scene a-la Eyehategod to an extent, but not so much say, Pantera, or a lot of Bay Area thrash. My main hots have always been mainly for British and Scandinavian shit.  


Thrash is one of my favorite subgenres, along with power and prog (thanks for recommending Ayreon, btw, I love what little I've been able to find), but that might just because I haven't been exposed to other ones. Thus, a lot of my favorite metal bands are American. Except I hate Slayer, which has got me into many a heated argument.
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« Reply #34 on: 06 Dec 2005, 21:51 »
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Except I hate Slayer, which has got me into many a heated argument.

I won't argue about it here, but man, whenever I hear a metal fan say that, there are words exchanged.  Oh yes, many words.  At least you didn't say you hate Motörhead.
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« Reply #35 on: 06 Dec 2005, 22:04 »
Well, I like a bit of thrash myself, but my favourite thrash bands are things like Tankard, Sabbat, Sodom, early Skyclad, Pariah, Kreator, Nazgul etc.

I have absolutely no problem with Cannibal Corpse and Deicide being tongue in cheek. Fuck, I like Cattle Decapitation, and have no real problem with Deicide, just I've always thought they were pretty generic and unadventurous compared with, say, Vital Remains or Decapitated.

And no Entombed on yer list?
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« Reply #36 on: 06 Dec 2005, 22:56 »
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And no Entombed on yer list?

Man, with all the other shit I've been listening to lately, it's hard to squeeze in all the essential bands without missing exiting new ones.  Entombed is on my list to check out, but lately most of my music listening has been a balance between the punk/hardcore of my youth, and my expanding interest in country, and in (mostly American) death metal.  Also tiptoeing into Black Metal.  And NWOBHM.

Seriously, my top three bands/artists right now, in general, are David Allan Coe (drunk country), Suffocation (LIEGE OF INVERACITY!) and Patriot (OI!).  I'm spread thin.
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« Reply #37 on: 06 Dec 2005, 23:29 »
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I won't argue about it here, but man, whenever I hear a metal fan say that, there are words exchanged.  Oh yes, many words.  At least you didn't say you hate Motörhead.


Hey, I don't mind debating it, because I'm right. But Motörhead is great, and thus I see no need to argue there.
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« Reply #38 on: 07 Dec 2005, 01:47 »
Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper, Something Wild, Are You Dead Yet?
Impaled Nazarene - Absence of War Does Not Mean Peace, Rapture
X Japan - Vanishing Vision
Cradle of Filth - Midian

Can't think of anything else right now.
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« Reply #39 on: 07 Dec 2005, 06:25 »
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Decapitated.


Best impulse buy I've ever made.  Picked it up at Borders one day because the cover art caught my eye, listened to one track in the listening station and slapped down my credit card on the spot.

It's the little gems that make life worth spending money on.
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« Reply #40 on: 07 Dec 2005, 15:32 »
Slayer - Show No Mercy
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break The Oath
Hellhammer - Apocalyptic Raids
Venom - Welcome To Hell
Bathory - S/T
Sodom - Persecution Mania
Morbid Saint - Spectrum Of Death
Possessed - Seven Churches
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Beherit - Drawing Down The Moon
Von - Satanic Blood
Burzum - Hvist Lyset Tar Oss
Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
Darkthrone - A Blaze In The Northern Sky
Sarcofago - I.N.R.I.
Bathory - Hammerheart
Mütiilation - Vampires Of Black Imperial Blood
Xasthur - Nocturnal Poisoning
Deathspell Omega - Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice
Funeral Mist - Salvation
Weakling - Dead As Dreams
Nokturnal Mortum - Goat Horns
Watain - Rabid Death's Curse
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« Reply #41 on: 07 Dec 2005, 16:05 »
Okay, if we're going with personal essential albums, here's my list. Of course I'll probably look at this two hours later and be kicking myself for missing something:

Black Sabbath: s/t
Black Sabbath: Paranoid
Iron Maiden: Number of the Beast
Ozzy Osbourne: Blizzard of Ozz
Bathory: Under the Sign
Metallica: Master of Puppets
Slayer: Reign in Blood
Candlemass: Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Cathedral: Forests of Equilibrium
Virgin Black: Elegant and Dying
My Dying Bride: Turn Loose the Swans
Shape of Despair: Angels of Distress
Darkthrone: Transilvanian Hunger
Emperor: Anthems to the Welkins at Dusk
Vintersorg:Till Fjalls
Borknagar:Epic
Enslaved: Isa
Death: Sound of Perserverance
Nile: Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-ka
Dark Tranquillity:Gallery
Hypocrisy:The Arrival
Opeth: Blackwater Park
Rhapsody: Power of the Dragonflame
Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle Earth
Into Eternity:Buried in Oblivion
Arcturus: La Masquerade Infernale
Korpiklaani:Spirit of the Forest
Finntroll: Trollhammaren
Orphaned Land: Mabool

Let's see thats old school, doom, black, melodic death, power, and folk. About covers it...
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« Reply #42 on: 07 Dec 2005, 16:21 »
@ Signum: Your list emanates with the unholy awe of death to such an extent that I think my eyesight got worse just reading it.

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« Reply #43 on: 07 Dec 2005, 18:51 »
haha, thanks khar \m/

and..

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What's the Metallica album with Four Leaf Clover on it? That one song is worth any crap Metallica has done.


This is hilarious in so many ways.
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« Reply #44 on: 07 Dec 2005, 20:24 »
I should be kicked in the nuts for not saying...

Gorefest - False

Holy shit, I love that album so much.  "Erase" is pretty cool too, I don't have the others though.  Have any of you folks in Europe heard "La Muerte" yet?  The advance reviews are solid across the board, I just want it to be released here dammit.
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