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Hat:
I liked Original Pirate Material, pretty much entirely for "The Irony of it All" and "Too much Brandy" and then I sat down and listened to A Grand Don't Come For Free, and now I just can't listen to Original Pirate Material at all anymore. Its depressing, because there are a few good songs on it, but now all the songs I was impartial to before just remind me of how bad Grand was.

Also, I am not a hip-hop person by any standard, but I have fallen for Atmosphere in a big way. I should probably check out some of the stuff mentioned here, but can anyone specifically name groups that go in for that sound that is very un-minimalist, which lots of varied melodical sampling, and even live instrumentals behind them on their recordings? That stuff does a lot more for me than the simple drum/bass/vocal tracks that my hip-hop inclined friends are more into.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: mrjjbobo ---what is it with you ski-cap wearing kitties making broad stereotyes saying A) we're indie kids or that there is even a we or B) that we love the streets. How many indie kids have you met that like the streets? A ton is not a legitimate answer. I want a number.
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Well, Heretic is an Indie kid, and both 'Original Pirate Material' and 'A Grand Don't Come For Free' are featured on Pitchfork's top 100 albums of the last 5 years. Which I think would indicate they have some sort of indie cred.

Catatonik:
I have been a fan of hip-hop for a while.

Especially:

MF Doom, I simply love the mans flow and demented sense of humour.
Immortal Technique, hip-hops angry ***ing metalhead. Lyrically blunt, intelligent and uncompromising.
K'naan, coming out of Mogadishu in Somalia, and now living in Canada, K'naan is highly intelligen, has a live band and some really good lyrics and tracks (though he does sound eerily like Eminem vocally at times.)
Q-tip, A Tribe Called Quest, Spearhead, Internal Affairs, Mos Def, Kano, Shadow Huntaz, Blackalicious, Public Enemy, The Last Emperor, KRS-1, and so on and so forth.

:D

I enjoy the Streets in the same way I enjoy Rhapsody, you have to laugh because they aren't.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---There's a punk and hardcore club I go to where they always drop stuff like Dizzee Rascal, Dead Prez and Roots Manuva into the set and it packs the dancefloor, so I just don't get it.
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Yeah, but that's just one of those wierd musical crossovers. It's the same as the way you could get a surprising number of Black Metal fans dancing to Anne Clark or Dead Can Dance. Liking Indie's a whole different sort of musical taste to predominantly liking punk and hardcore.

a pack of wolves:
I was mainly thinking of the massive aversion and dismissal of a whole, big other genre. Plus, I don't think the bit where they play old school rave type stuff is a crossover you'd expect. They whacked on Trip To Trumpton last time. Genius.

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