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KharBevNor:
They were mentioned in the first post...
JLM:
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But this makes me an unwanted child in the music realm. My Hip Hop friends think that my indie stuff is no talent junk, and my indie friends think that my hip-hop is all about guns, women, and the ghetto. I assure you neither are true. I wanted to know if anyone else is in this wierd place, loving two great but different genres of music and because of it being shuned by both. I feel like it's the capulets and the montegues here.
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You need to bring your hip-hop and indie friends together by listening to Dälek, who combines the best of both worlds.
est:
don't we have a new "am i alone in listening to decent hip-hop?" thread in here every couple months?
short response: no. no you are not, my friend. i'm more into old-school stuff like A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Q-Tip, Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five (hurr hurr). but i do like Mos Def, Sage Francis, Blackalicious, Talib Kweli, Jurassic 5, etc. i really should start looking around at some of the other stuff that people suggest, though.
although, it seems that when i do i am mostly disappointed. i checked out Jay-Z and Wu-Tang Clan after the last iteration of this thread, and while Jay-Z can rap well & has a couple of decent tracks it was mostly a bag full of disappointment. maybe i need to go towards some of the smaller names this time.
i've never really understood the appeal of the Wu Tang Clan. isn't it just like, 30 guys in a room together rapping really badly and pretending to be ninjas or something? that's kinda what it sounds like to me. please point me to something you think is decent Wu-Tang so i can check it out, because only two tracks on their "greatest hits" album "Legend of the Wu-Tang" came close to impressing me (Triumph & Uzi).
come to think of it, don't bother. i've figured out why i don't like them! i mean, the music is ok and all that, but only a couple of them can rap worth a damn. there will be stretches where i start to get into it, but them some dude who's sloppy as hell will come in and i'll be like "dude fuck, just shut up and let the others keep going".
also, i've heard that not a lot of other rappers like Jurassic 5, and that people seem to think that they are overhyped, snobby bastards. has anyone heard anything about this, or was the article i read (someplace, i forget) unique in this viewpoint?
elcapitan:
If we're going to try and talk about "indie" hip-hop, then neither the Streets nor groups like Mobb Deep and Blackalicious really fit the bill. Honestly, why complicate it? Just say you listen to hip-hop. It's as broad a genre as rock, but why pigeonhole it? If people denigrate you for not listening to a "cool" subgenre, fuck 'em. Fuck 'em.
I'm listening to my friend's brother's first promo at the moment, actually, a guy who goes by the name Roshambo. If you're Aussie and you listen to the Hip-Hop Show on TripleJ, you might have heard his single The ?uestion. I've also been listening to some Kanye West - I tell you, I wrote the man off at first, but on second listen his stuff is actually pretty damn good. And some of the stuff that he's worked/produced/whatever with John Legend is really, really nice.
MilkmanDan:
--- Quote from: est ---come to think of it, don't bother. i've figured out why i don't like them! i mean, the music is ok and all that, but only a couple of them can rap worth a damn. there will be stretches where i start to get into it, but them some dude who's sloppy as hell will come in and i'll be like "dude fuck, just shut up and let the others keep going".
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This is precisly why (well, partly why) Wu-tang are so awesome. Each of their 50 bajillion members have released solo albums as well, so you simply figure out who you like, and get their solo stuff. In my personal opinion, It goes GZA > Raekwon > Ghostface Killah > Method Man > ODB > The rest. At least, that's my view at the moment.
However, if you don't like 'Enter the 36 Chambers' then maybe the Wu ain't for you. Bear in mind that circa 'Enter the 36 Chambers' they had 9 members, whereas by 2004 there were about 9 people in the entire world who weren't.
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