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« on: 05 Dec 2005, 19:43 »

I know we don't need reminding, but man, MTV is fucked up. The Strokes video for 'Juicebox' has been censored to all hell for what seems to be nothing but some "suggestive" material. The director Michael Palmieri said this stuff about the situation:

"the unfortunate problem mtv had with censoring the video is that there was nothing explicit in the video to take out to begin with. they were trying to censor an idea, which is really hard to do. the video is deliberately unsettling. to me it's about the end of the line of american behaviour - bad fart jokes, pornography, voyeurism, old women and their fucked up intimate relations with pets because human beings just don't cut the mustard, technology driving us away from one another by bringing us closer to one another in other more obscene ways, etc.  but is there really any actual sexual content in this video? not really. christina aguilera shakes her booty with a gaffer-taped thong two inches from the camera for three minutes and that's ok, but we can't show a blurred out image of women wearing bikinis in a magazine in a wide shot for half a second, at least according to mtv, because it's disgraceful to women."

"the censorship on this video has so many layers to it it's staggering. it began before we even started filming it, fueled by a statement made by julian in all good humor about the possibility of "full frontal nudity" being in their next video and that "mtv will never air it". that comment created a buzz storm on the internet and started the narrowing-down process of what the video was going to be allowed to be in everyone's heads."

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« Reply #1 on: 05 Dec 2005, 19:52 »

Alot of music stations have banned videos for very inane reasons. MTV seems very bad in this regard from what I hear. My favorite example from the past year was how M.I.A.'s video for "Galang" got banned from MTV, apparently because she rhymes "Blaze-ah-blaze" with "Purple haze" in the chorus.

This doesn't sense. MTV try and foster this image of themselves as a station for youth culture and they show crap like the Real World and stuff that has make references sexual and drug content. Heck, they show Viva la Bam!, which may as well be a guide on how to turn yourself into a complete little asshole.

Why do they censor these videos then?
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« Reply #2 on: 05 Dec 2005, 20:46 »

I like how the video I have for "Gay Bar" by the Electric Six has the phrase "nuclear war" censored out, but "I've got something to put in you" is fine.

As are the, um, homoerotically writhing Abraham Lincolns.
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« Reply #3 on: 05 Dec 2005, 21:12 »

It really wouldn't surprise me if they were censoring the videos simply to protect the American Music Industry(tm). There are more than likely some backroom deals going on between the some labels and MTV so they show more of their artists.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 Dec 2005, 21:53 »

A deal like that has already been exposed in the radio industry.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 Dec 2005, 22:00 »

It is a very...dunno what the word is...evocative clip. But I think this whole banned video thing is as staged as the way the songs were released to the internet.
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« Reply #6 on: 05 Dec 2005, 23:41 »

Theory: It's the homoeroticism.  I was wondering if the lesbians were why, but the two guys going at it in the bathroom while a third watches probably wouldn't sit well with MTV's audience, to say nothing of their corporate benefactors.  If it were just guy-girl action throughout, it'd probably be peachy.  But guy on guy would bring down the misplaced wrath of the Religious Right (where are they, anyway?  Did they give up on MTV?), worried about the propagation of the so-called homosexual agenda.  To say nothing about losing the coveted homophobic-culturally-deprived-teenager demographic so coveted by marketers and yet endlessly and methodically deconstructed by society.

I find it very interesting that MTV (Who pretty much preach jackassery and hedonism as a religion) do all this censoring.  The same MTV who shows hip-hop music videos that are pretty much landscapes composed entirely of bling, lowriders, and women in thongs, the same MTV who shows (as previously mentioned) Viva La Bam! and The Real World, censors this?

Who are they kidding, anyway?  The teenagers who watch this stuff, convinced that whatever is shown represents the epitome of music culture, then run out and buy the placed products?  The lobbyists concerned about corrupting the Youth Of America(tm)?  The well-intentioned suburban mother that lets her children have TVs in their rooms?
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« Reply #7 on: 05 Dec 2005, 23:51 »

Wait, are you saying MTV plays music videos?

Please stop lying, you are bringing down the entire discourse of humanity with your filthy lies.
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« Reply #8 on: 05 Dec 2005, 23:53 »

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In the dead time between Real World episodes.
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« Reply #9 on: 06 Dec 2005, 08:38 »

How many songs were taken off the radio after September 11th for no fucking reason? I think they were taking fucking Abba tracks off there just because they had the word 'fire' or 'plane' in there. Hell I think Jefferson Airplane were allowed on most radio stations for about six months.

And after the start of the Iraq war, they banned Diamonds And Guns by the Transplants from the radio just because it had the fucking word 'guns' in the title, and Bandages by Hot Hot Heat just because of its title. What the fuck is that?
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« Reply #10 on: 06 Dec 2005, 12:01 »

I think the funniest censorship I ever saw was back a few years (when I used to watch television) when I was watching the video for Eminem's well-known "Without Me." I was watching it on BET, and the phrase "they shut me down on MTV" was censored.

I remember laughing quite uproariously at this.
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« Reply #11 on: 06 Dec 2005, 12:52 »

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How many songs were taken off the radio after September 11th for no fucking reason? I think they were taking fucking Abba tracks off there just because they had the word 'fire' or 'plane' in there. Hell I think Jefferson Airplane were allowed on most radio stations for about six months.

Let's not forget the entire Rage Against the Machine catalog.
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« Reply #12 on: 06 Dec 2005, 13:07 »

I have allways found the concept of self-censoring strange, since we don't really censor anything in Denmark. If the videos are censored, it's because they are american. There wasn't any censorship(to my knowledge anyway) after September the 11 either.There was a comedian called Omar Marzouk who made jokes about his cousin Osama who wanted to be a airplane mechanic, though that was some time later. But how about all those disgusting rap videos, 50 Cent and whatnot, they are not censored in Denmark, but are they in USA?
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« Reply #13 on: 06 Dec 2005, 13:25 »

MTV? music....that does not compute I've seen more "pimp my ride" than music and the "music" they put on is arse anyway. I watch VH2 if I bother with TV at *all* nowadays, it wasn't exactly great in the 90's but damn man it had better smeg than the feth they pump out now.
How many goddamned "reailty" shows have they spewed out? 87!?
I'm sick of them. And censoring everything is dumb really as if people get offended I'd doubt they'd watch what offened them a second time.
If they where homophobics then they'd never watch gay bar after the first time, thus censor would be pointless.
It's like rating for films and DVD's. I'm not old enough to buy GTA:SA for the PC as I'm 16 and in the UK it's an 18 game. But I walked in with my dad he bought it and simply handed over to me.
Like Tim buckley says violent video games or films or music videos don't turn you into a killer, stop passing the buck.
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Why not help protect the enviroment or something which more people give a damn about?
Anyway sod it, I'm gonna listen to Arcade fire and read the archive of QC.
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« Reply #14 on: 06 Dec 2005, 15:40 »

Not to mention Smokin' by Boston, one of the least offensive songs I've ever heard.
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« Reply #15 on: 06 Dec 2005, 18:41 »

THe list of songs banned by Clear Channel after 9/11 is pretty revolting actually, and has some really rediculous songs on it.  My personal favorites?

Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
The Beatles - A Day in the Life, Let it Be, Ob La Di, Ob La Da, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, Ticket to Ride
Boston - Smokin' (as you mentioned)
Buddy Holly and the Crickets - That'll Be the Day
The Clash - Rock the Casbah
Dio - Holy Diver
Elton John - Bennie and the Jets, Daniel, Rocket Man
John Lennon - Imagine (I really do question how this fits at all)
Jerry Lee Lewis - Great Balls of Fire
Oingo Boingo – Dead Man's Party (Seriously, guys. How can you ban this? it's a fun song)
Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge over Troubled Water
Cat Stevens - Morning has broken

and the best out of them?

Frank Sinatra - New York, New York
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« Reply #16 on: 06 Dec 2005, 22:00 »

They're Clear Channel.  They're big enough that they no longer have to make sense.  Goes with the territory, I guess.
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« Reply #17 on: 07 Dec 2005, 13:07 »

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THe list of songs banned by Clear Channel after 9/11 is pretty revolting actually, and has some really rediculous songs on it.  My personal favorites?

Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
The Beatles - A Day in the Life, Let it Be, Ob La Di, Ob La Da, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, Ticket to Ride
Boston - Smokin' (as you mentioned)
Buddy Holly and the Crickets - That'll Be the Day
The Clash - Rock the Casbah
Dio - Holy Diver
Elton John - Bennie and the Jets, Daniel, Rocket Man
John Lennon - Imagine (I really do question how this fits at all)
Jerry Lee Lewis - Great Balls of Fire
Oingo Boingo – Dead Man's Party (Seriously, guys. How can you ban this? it's a fun song)
Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge over Troubled Water
Cat Stevens - Morning has broken

and the best out of them?

Frank Sinatra - New York, New York


That whole list can be summed up in three words. What. The. Fuck?
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« Reply #18 on: 07 Dec 2005, 14:14 »

Oh, that's not even all of it; Those are the ones I found EXCEPTIONALLY ridiculous. Here's the full list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_deemed_inappropriate_by_Clear_Channel_following_the_September_11%2C_2001_attacks
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« Reply #19 on: 07 Dec 2005, 15:45 »

And then there's a link to this on the exact same page.

I'm no great Clear Channel fan myself, but how about making even a halfhearted attempt on unbiased research?
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