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kikanjuuneko:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---If I'm thinking of the right band, emo like a crazy thing.
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You might be thinking of the right band, but with the wrong classification. A clean chorus every now and then doesn't automatically equal emo.
Misereatur:
--- Quote from: Kai ---On the subject of Sunn O))), I have their new album (assuming it's Black 1, someone check this for me) but haven't actually listened to it yet. Go having too much stuff to listen to and not enough time to do it. Since starting this post, I've started listening to it, and the intro track thing is pretty fancy.
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Yeah, I was talking about Black 1. Its really more "metal" then their other albums, that tend to be more ambient then metal. I was even suprised to hear growls on the album.
I listened to it only a couple of times but I like it. Even more then White 1 and 2.
--- Quote from: Storm Rider ---I wouldn't call Nevermore thrash, really. Honestly, I can't define them. They're like Watchtower with a power vocalist and incredibly better sound quality.
And Killswitch, Trivium, and Poison the Well all suck. A lot. Like, one-step-up-from-Korn bad.
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Nevermore are thrash in my opinion. They have more thrash in their music then other influences.
The "future thrash" or "nu-thrash" is basically metalcore. With exeption of Unearth, Lamb Of God and maby a few other bands, most of it sucks.
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---If you dislike all the vocals in every metal band ever, there's something wrong with ye. The genre encompasses everything from classically trained opera vocals, through to screams, grunts and growls, and every shade in-between. Including just good ol' fashioned rock 'n roll.
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Quoted just to say yeah. If you dont like metal vocals you just didnt listen to enough of it.
amok:
Yeah, there's no set style of vocals employed by all metal singers worldwide :\ if in doubt, listen to the song "The Genuine Pulse" by Borknagar for proof. Anyone who's heard it will know what I mean.
KharBevNor:
@ Kikan: A few light choruses may not be emo, but calling your album 'The End of Heartache', putting this on the cover:
and having lyrics like this:
"Numb and broken, here I stand alone
Wondering what were the last words I said to you
Hoping, praying that I'll find a way to turn back time
Can I turn back time?
What would I give to behold
The smile, the face of love?
You never left me
The rising sun will always speak your name
Numb and broken, here I stand alone
Wondering what were the last words I said to you
It won't be long, we'll meet again
What would I give to behold
The smile, the face of love?
You never left me
The rising sun will always speak your name"
Emo, my friend. Fucking emo, in the most perjorative neologistic sense of the word. Ie: cash-in whores.
@ Amok:
"The genuine pulse! The link of a thoooousand senses.
The genuine pulse! Entire celestial allegiance!
The genuine pulse! Dense induce of the indomitable!
Never to fail thus existence I sail..
THROOOOOOUGH THE ELEMENTS OF FOUUUUUUR"
It's the formula to fucking WIN at post-black metal: ALWAYS get Vintersorg or Trickster G. to sing on your album. For examples of the latters madness, check out 'La Masquerade Infernale' by Arcturus and 'Themes From William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell' by Ulver. Fuck me.
"OHPITYTHEFOOLISHYOUNGMAN! CONSIDERTHEBURNINGDUNGEONTHOUARTCREATINGFORTHYSELFFORALLETERNITY!"
nescience:
--- Quote from: amok ---Yeah, there's no set style of vocals employed by all metal singers worldwide :\ if in doubt, listen to the song "The Genuine Pulse" by Borknagar for proof. Anyone who's heard it will know what I mean.
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I'm not necessarily talking about style (though the other person above may have been), but maybe attitude. See, when I hear that song you mentioned I still hear the thing that I'm talking about. That guy's voice, while more subdued than some of the more genre-typical metal vocals that I've heard (croakers like Bathory to growlers like The Sun to testicularly-challenged howlers like Rhapsody), still has an element of this difficult-to-explain "metalness" to it. It also (probably unintentionally) palpably reminds me of "Visual-kei", a very theatrical Japanese hard rock subgenre. So while I don't mean to overgeneralize, but I think it's possible that there really is some je nais se quois* element inherent in vocals in the genre that you can find pretty much throughout the genre, and that element seems to have something to do with at least a glam influence.
(edit) I'm also not saying this element is exclusive to metal, so one could certainly express a dispreference for it where it is found elsewhere; operatic voices not inspired by soul like Lydia Lunch or solo Freddie Mercury could potentially be viewed similarly, and Patton certainly takes his pipes outside the realm of metal.
I'm not sure this is making sense to y'all. And why am I defending someone else's statement that I don't even agree with?
*Refer to the "Words/Phrases you HATE" thread
(edited for continuity)
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