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amok:
call me nuts but I don't hear a glam influence in bands like Darkthrone
I mean, they look like ponces, but in terms of sound... well, maybe I haven't been listening to enough glam :)
edit: ah, I see what you mean now... my point about that song was the way he's growling and doing the operatic singing thing. if someone dislikes operatic singing in rock across the board then fair enough I guess, but "metal" as a genre encompasses so many different styles (both of music and of vocals) that you can't really pin down one style of metal singing. If you're just referring to the Judas Priest school of metal vocals then fair enough ;)
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: nescience --- It also (probably unintentionally) palpably reminds me of "Visual-kei", a very theatrical Japanese hard rock subgenre.
--- End quote ---
That would maybe be because Visual Kei got kicked off by metal bands like X-Japan.
What you are trying to say is that metal is not lo-fi, soul-less mumbling?
CORRECT SIR.
You are basically saying that metal singers sing in a way that fits the music. Check some decent metal ballads and whatnot, or later Skyclad stuff or something like that, for an example of how the vocalists change when they move off metal. You couldn't have some ball-less, radioheadesque warbling along with a slab of kick-ass metal. That would just be awful. If you have powerful music, you need powerful vocals. If you want silly music, you gotta have silly vocals. If you want to wimp, you gotta wimp.
nescience:
Hence my argument that one could indeed disprefer the theatricality (perhaps even flamboyance) of metal vocals entirely and not necessarily be accused of overgeneralizing or jumping to conclusions.
abadname:
Ha you guys hate 3 of my favorite bands. Trivium is super talented musicly but when Mathew sings its not as good but he can scream. Poison the Well is good in small doses as long as its the right song. And I really like Killswitch, Howard may not be too great at writing but he sings the older stuff a thousand times better than the other singer.
I liked almost every band on sotu last year (minus devil driver, clutch, and afew others)
But lately I've gotten super into hardcore and for some strange reason straightxedge pride bands (casey jones) and liek 2 throwdown songs
but we are talking about metal, I can't stand metalica any more!
Oh and korn is a million billion trillion thousand million times worse than killswitch but korn is still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy better than limp bizkit or slipknot
OH! and even if you don't like trivium if you've seen them live you respect them. They are by far the best band I've ever seen play live. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents *toss*
KharBevNor:
I've seen Trivium live.
I still don't really respect them. Yes, they have a good guitarist, big woop. Bands are a complete package. They have crap stage presence and crowd interaction, and the crowd and pit was so awful (not just a goddamned windmilling pit, but a goddamned windmilling pit full of 13 year olds I could have broken like dolls), that rather then get myself down after getting totally blown away by 3 Inches of Blood (the only reason I was there), I went to the bar and watched small kids with bad taste get hurt. In reflection, that's also probably what I should have done at the Dillinger Escape Plan/Poison the Well (spit) co-headliner gig, like, the moment Ephel Duath stopped playing. The only good bit of the gig was when they encored with a cover of Master of Puppets, but that was kinda put down by my memories of seeing Apocalyptica ripping up the whole fucking Brixton Academy with that song on fucking Cello. Now that's a live experience.
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