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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: BenRG on 24 Jan 2016, 12:26
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So, as I think everyone is expecting that Faye will return to CoD to see if she can suture old wounds some time this week...
Oddly enough, even though I can see it happening and suggested it might be good for both of them some time ago, I'd actually prefer there not to be too much of a Dora/Faye angsty conversation, at least not as the first thing that happens when Faye arrives. It would be a lot more interesting for Faye to be our PoV for learning what's happened during the time skip. Dora can accompany her and offer some measure of commentary. Faye can talk to her about their own problems at the end of the mini-arc.
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It will probably be awkward at first.
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Imagine if Dora's not in today (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1907)
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Or just after she reestablishes her connections with the others and is chatting friendly like with them Dora walks in.
And it's the last Panel in Fridays comic
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Imagine if Dora's not in today (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1907)
Is that sack still around?
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Imagine if Dora's not in today (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1907)
Is that sack still around?
Pretty sure Marten is still the main character, yeah.
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I really doubt Dora would let Penelope ban Faye from the store.
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I could see Penelope, seeing Faye and fearing she had come back for her old job, diving behind the counter in fear...
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Comic's up.
Bubbles: "Why are you strangling my friend?"
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I'm sure Bubbles has onboard sensors that can determine if strangling force is being deployed or not.
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Dora: "She was my friend first."
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D'aww.
Good choice dropping the (probably perfunctory) text.
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Hmmm. Well, I can't really tell with out any text, but I think maybe Dora is glad to see Faye again.
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I agree that dropping the text was a good idea, and I feel kinda bad about only voting after the fact, but you know what? Thus far, it's only two people in the hug, and though that is, in a technical-sense, multiple people, I am aware that definition goes against the intention of the phrase. However, should there be more hugs tomorrow, or in the next few days, whilst we're still in the coffee shop, then I will consider myself right.
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All the humans hug and then Bubbles hugs that hug and goes around to all the places in town where their friends are rolling up more of them in a hug.
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All the humans hug and then Bubbles hugs that hug and goes around to all the places in town where their friends are rolling up more of them in a hug.
Katamari Damacy-style?
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All the humans hug and then Bubbles hugs that hug and goes around to all the places in town where their friends are rolling up more of them in a hug.
Katamari Damacy-style?
You know it!
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All the humans hug
You forget that Hanners is there. Hugging Hannelore Heralds Heavy Hyperventilating.
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No text title too?
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Has Dora always been that much taller than Faye?
I imagine the words were probably along the lines of "Faye!" "Uh, hi..." "Welcome back." Nothing we're missing in there.
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All the humans hug
You forget that Hanners is there. Hugging Hannelore Heralds Heavy Hyperventilating.
She's worked on it since that simple alliteration, and at least a few of her accomplishments have been shown in comic. Who knows where she's at now, with the time skip!
That said, all the humans, held together by Bubbles and rolling around town, picking people up, my god, if there's anyone out there who wouldn't start panicking, then I tell you, that person is not human.
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I can only imagine Dora's thoughts when that door opened up.
"Oh God Faye joined the Robot Mafia and brought one of their goons with her to make me an offer I can't refuse!"
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I can only imagine Dora's thoughts when that door opened up.
"Oh God Faye joined the Robot Mafia and brought one of their goons with her to make me an offer I can't refuse!"
That is not a case where you hug the person.
That is how you get dismembered by the robot mafia, taken out in a manner similar to the regular mafia. Difference is you get to sleep with the deep-sea diving AI. The fish are scared of the deep-sea diving AI.
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Good call, Jeph.
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Yes, aw, aw, Dora and Faye, whatever. We're missing the important thing here.
FLOOFY POOFY HANNERS-HAIR
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She's worked on it since that simple alliteration, and at least a few of her accomplishments have been shown in comic. Who knows where she's at now, with the time skip!
Time skip aside, as recently as strip 2597 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2597), she started panicking when hugged by Momo, and didn't calm down until reminded that she was a robot. All other canon instances of Hanners hugging without serious anxiety were when she had time to mentally prepare herself first. This is true in my own experience as well, albeit to a lesser degree.
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All other canon instances of Hanners hugging without serious anxiety were when she had time to mentally prepare herself first.
Untrue (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1709).
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Is it just me, or does Dora look much more like herself than in her other post-timeskip appearance? She looked weird last time out.
Also... why is Hanners pulling her hair back when out walking in the cold, but not in a food/drink service job?
No text title too?
What's happened is that he's dropped the entire text layer. (Apparently, he does both the title & copyright lines on the same layer as speech balloons. And didn't remember to fix before uploading.)
Per the archive page, the title is "Quiet".
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All other canon instances of Hanners hugging without serious anxiety were when she had time to mentally prepare herself first.
Untrue (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1709).
In that case, she was mentally prepared by being very, very happy.
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And also the one initiating the hug. I would think that would make a difference.
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Good call indeed. One of those instances where words would hinder rather than help.
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So, yeah, I'm thinking that Dora missed Faye. She missed her a lot. So much, in fact, that it hurts.
I'm wondering if Faye's grimace is due to surprise at the sudden hug, Dora hanging on too tight or the fact that she never really believed that Dora felt like this about her; that anyone would do so.
P.S.: Looks like Hanners still has mad random hair, rather than a new 'do. She's just let it grow out a lot.
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So.
That was obviously not the response that she'd expected from Dora. Prepped for catching grief that wasn't there. Yet not really ready for anything else. Rather almost like Hanners getting an unexpected hug from her body language. Coupled with the text layer being left off, that's really quite subtle for our fearless author.
Thank you, sir.
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I expect others to join into the hug one by one at their own time. And it will only start to become tearful once Bubbles joins in...
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They really are almost as cute a couple as Marten and Claire, aren't they?
And yet I have another thought.
What will Bubbles think of such an utterly without remorse acceptance of Faye by Dora? Terribly Christian and terribly unrealistic. Human's have a bad habit of holding really stupid grudges after all. Yet, once in a while? By now she (Bubbles that is) will know the story or she would not have gone as "moral support" if she didn't. Yet it's pretty obvious that Faye doesn't know a similar level of depth to Bubbles. What will it take to break her ice? I'm not sure us human's have such a vessel, yet if anything ever does, today's strip is a heck of a start. I doubt Jep will ever go into any real depth - he already handles this better than 99.999999999999999% of non-vets do - yet crossing that bridge, well, let's just say that would probably be his Arnhem...
Hmm...
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"...can't....breathe...." :-o
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My suggested text:
PANEL 2
DORA: "F... Faye?"
PANEL 3
FAYE: "Um... Hey, Spooky... I mean Dora... I mean..."
PANEL 4
FAYE: "Dora... Please... Please say something!"
PANEL 5
CAPTION: "SIS-HUG!"
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Considering what words were exchanged the last time (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1802) they hugged this way...
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I was thinking about how, to me, this seemed like an excessive display of friendship, then I remembered that Dora has known Faye, as her boss, and presumably her friend for longer than the rest of the whole cast (minus Faye's family). I know if I hadn't seen or heard anything from an old friend for months, even parting on bad terms, this would be my immediate response the next time I did.
Maybe this is obvious, I don't do empathy good.
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Dora has known Faye, as her boss, and presumably her friend for longer than the rest of the whole cast (minus Faye's family).
And Raven. Then again, she might not be considered a member of the cast anymore.
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"excessive display of friendship"
What does that even mean?
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Off-topic: CoD's front door is huge. The average door I've seen wouldn't let anybody over 6'6" casually cross without at least getting their head down, yet it doesn't look like Bubbles is doing that.
Obviously this means nothing, but it's something I didn't expect.
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Off-topic: CoD's front door is huge. The average door I've seen wouldn't let anybody over 6'6" casually cross without at least getting their head down, yet it doesn't look like Bubbles is doing that.
Obviously this means nothing, but it's something I didn't expect.
My money is on Inspector Gadget legs.
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ok, not gonna lie. i'm a grown-ass man, and i seriously got a little misty eyed at the reunion panel.
I really need to see wtf is in my medication...i didn't used to be a weepy biatch.
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Off-topic: CoD's front door is huge. The average door I've seen wouldn't let anybody over 6'6" casually cross without at least getting their head down, yet it doesn't look like Bubbles is doing that.
Obviously this means nothing, but it's something I didn't expect.
I'm 6'4", so I'm quite used to watching my head in doorways. That being said, 7' is a pretty typical door frame height. Bubbles looks like she needs to duck her head a bit to get through, but not too much.
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Most people instinctively duck, even if there's still a few inches of headway. Bubbles not doing that would fit her character, I think.
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[sings]Boris the hugger! twawawawaawa Boris the hugger! twawawawawawa [/sings]
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Most people instinctively duck, even if there's still a few inches of headway. Bubbles not doing that would fit her character, I think.
Yeah, Bubbles would quite calmly rip the door from its hinges, punch a hole in the top of the door frame large enough to accommodate her head, and then tell the owner of the place "You need to fix your door. It's broken."
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Most people instinctively duck, even if there's still a few inches of headway. Bubbles not doing that would fit her character, I think.
I would think that an android or sentient robot would be able to size up the doorway precisely prior to passing through and would know to the mm. how much clearance it had, both vertically and horizontally.
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After years of having their door mantles smashed by overly tall androids walking into them, most business owners have opted for the oversized doors...
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According to the preview Jeph put up on Tumblr, Faye has also been working on her guns.
All through the magic of montage and time skipping!
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Off-topic: CoD's front door is huge. The average door I've seen wouldn't let anybody over 6'6" casually cross without at least getting their head down, yet it doesn't look like Bubbles is doing that.
Where do you live? I've thought of seven-foot height as standard for doors all my life, and been annoyed with builders who put them down to six feed nine inches.
I'm 6'4" and I've never even been close to ducking on a normal size door.
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A factoid about the architect Frank Lloyd Wright is that he was short, and tended to build his buildings to his scale. A few months ago I toured Taliesin (his house in Wisconsin), and despite being not very tall (5'10", or 178 cm), I had to duck to get through some of the doors.
Suffice it to say that Bubbles would probably not want to go on a tour of a Frank Lloyd Wright house.
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Off-topic: CoD's front door is huge. The average door I've seen wouldn't let anybody over 6'6" casually cross without at least getting their head down, yet it doesn't look like Bubbles is doing that.
Where do you live? I've thought of seven-foot height as standard for doors all my life, and been annoyed with builders who put them down to six feed nine inches.
I'm 6'4" and I've never even been close to ducking on a normal size door.
I graduated with a dude who was 6'8, I've had a friend since who's 6'7, and I don't recall either of them ever having to duck through doors.
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It's an old building though. (Well, a hundred years old may not be "old" on the East Coast, but you know what I mean).
People averaged shorter then. Some older buildings have inconveniently low ceilings by today's standards, so I would not have been surprised by a short door.
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Where do you live? I've thought of seven-foot height as standard for doors all my life, and been annoyed with builders who put them down to six feed nine inches.
6'6"x2'6" is a completely universal standard for domestic doors in the UK even now. My references give 6'8"x3'0" as the standard in the US.
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Most people instinctively duck, even if there's still a few inches of headway. Bubbles not doing that would fit her character, I think.
I would think that an android or sentient robot would be able to size up the doorway precisely prior to passing through and would know to the mm. how much clearance it had, both vertically and horizontally.
Some robots still duck like tall people would. Bubbles doesn't.
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"excessive display of friendship"
What does that even mean?
It means a display of the wonders of friendship that I would normally consider to be in excess of the amount required.
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Most businesses have tall and fairly wide doors for moving stock and/or equipment in and out.
There should be music with this scene.
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6'6"x2'6" is a completely universal standard for domestic doors in the UK even now. My references give 6'8"x3'0" as the standard in the US.
Does nobody in the UK use wheelchairs? You can't get a standard 32 to 34-inch wide wheelchair through a 30-inch door! And most of the time doors are effectively even two inches narrower than the opening because the width of the door panel itself extends into the doorway when the door is open.
We passed a law in the US (the ADA, or Americans with Disabilities Act) a few decades ago, partly because a bunch of Vietnam vets came home with missing legs or feet after encountering mines. Since then you have to have ADA-compliant buildings (wide doors and accessible bathrooms) before you can get a business license in the US, and although businesses that were already running didn't have to convert immediately, they can't get building permits for anything else until they do. So, regardless of height, that three-foot width is a very firm requirement for businesses in the US. Even for private homes, narrower doors are not used in new construction. I don't think it's banned for new private homes the way it is for new commercial buildings, but it's Just Not Done, because that would reduce the real-estate value.
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"excessive display of friendship"
What does that even mean?
It means a display of the wonders of friendship that I would normally consider to be in excess of the amount required.
I don't understand what you mean by this either, but maybe you mean to say that you thought it was an "extraordinary display of friendship?" As in beyond what one might ordinarily expect. Because if that's what you mean, then I completely understand what you're saying.
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Today's comic number is approximately pi thousand. Just happened to notice that.
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yay, the gang's all back together! :-D
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Does nobody in the UK use wheelchairs? You can't get a standard 32 to 34-inch wide wheelchair through a 30-inch door!
Your wheelchairs are bigger, it seems - presumably to accommodate bigger people! I am looking at a British Government document that states that the legal requirements for wheelchair access are based on a wheelchair width of 700mm (2'3.6"). There is also a table of sizes of real examples of a number of types of wheelchair, including motorised, with mean widths of 596-638mm and 95th percentile widths of 658-706mm.
But I guess that the 2'6" width for internal doors which I stated (and which is the case throughout my house) is, though common, not universal. Internal doors are sometimes 2'9", and main external doors are pretty much always 3'0".
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There's a movement among American home builders for what's known as "Aging in Place". People want to buy a house that will be the last home they ever live in. They want to grow old and ultimately die in the same place. Between the buying and the dying is a long span of time, one hopes, in which the body grows weak and frail, so the design considerations at the pre-planning stages of the home build must take this into effect. Some design features that honor this movement are the utter lack of thresholds. All floors, whether room to room, bathroom to shower, or indoors to outdoors, are completely smooth transitions. This offers less to trip on when the legs are no longer as high stepping as they once were and offer ease of wheelchair access. Similarly, while doorknobs were once the default, more and more homes are being build with lever-handled "knobs". These levers offer greater leverage for lower exertion when the arms are not as powerful, or the hands no longer as dextrous, and are easier to use when young and spry at the same time. Similarly again, rather than little clitorii of a light switch poking out of the wall, large, easily hit rocker-type light switches are easier to frobnicate whether young or old.
I have a hobby of designing my dream house, which seems to change radicly every couple of years, but I always try to keep the "Aging in Place" movement foremost in my mind. To this end, I've always wanted for every interior door to be at least 7' tall and 3' wide, and a standard 1½" thick, while I want my exterior doors to be 7' X 4' X 2", perhaps even stretching up to 8' tall if there is no transom light.
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I was under the impression that 30" interior doors weren't uncommon in the US at all in residences. 36" for exterior doors, though, and many houses do have 36" interior doors too.
My apartment's two interior doors are 30" (between front (dining/kitchen/living room) and rear (bedroom)) and 26" (bathroom).
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It's an old building though. (Well, a hundred years old may not be "old" on the East Coast, but you know what I mean).
People averaged shorter then. Some older buildings have inconveniently low ceilings by today's standards, so I would not have been surprised by a short door.
Some of the low ceilings in Taliesin were intentionally designed to be awkward (or so said the tour guide). He tended to make the ceilings near doorways very low to discourage people from congregating near the door and blocking the entryway.
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I smell rationalisation going on...
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The truth:
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQj8S6TFHDhdMZP3WHFtADm3JmfzvoH1-1LLyDVWKTF17Pn4TPn)
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"Oh Faye! You wouldn't -believe- what these nitwits have been putting me through!"
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Dora has clearly missed her friend, and has no time for awkwardness. Not as emotional of a reunion as I expected, though.
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Bubbles really, really doesn't enjoy social situations.
You know who she should get to know? Elliot. The two of them could stand beside each other and quietly loom (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1868) together.
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I'd use Faye's muscles and tendency to punch as the setup to a joke that uses domestic abuse as the punchline, but am too timid to put it all together. Guess I'm not dead inside!
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"punchline". I see what you did there.
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Bubbles really, really doesn't enjoy social situations.
You know who she should get to know? Elliot. The two of them could stand beside each other and quietly loom (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1868) together.
Can we please bring that guy back? He was really likable. (But if he ever does re-enter the comic, he had BETTER turn out to be bi, because QC's lack of queer male characters is getting kinda pathetic.)
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I fluctuate on how I feel about Dora. I loved her as a character right up until around the time Cosette was introduced; then, not so much. IMO she got pretty unlikable around then, with some minor redeeming moments. But today? Today feels like Old!Dora, and I really love it. Plus, cutest ever Dora in panel one, methinks?
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(But if he ever does re-enter the comic, he had BETTER turn out to be bi, because QC's lack of queer male characters is getting kinda pathetic.)
Did you already forget that we had an entire story arc revolving around a gay wedding? Henry and Maurice certainly aren't central characters, but the only queer females we see on a regular basis are Dora and Tai, and it's way less of a central point for Tai's character as it used to be. I fail to see a tremendous imbalance, here.
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I like how the copyright text is just full-on alt text now.
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Bubbles cannot go in all sneaky-beaky...
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The Pugnacious Peach bruises more easily now.
Sorry, sorry, bruises others more easily now. Look at her gank the murder droid like that.
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Called it! Faye's buff now, and I think that's coming from her job. Maybe she works out, too, it's easier to start once you already are active.
As to pre-Corsette-Dora to almost-firing-Faye-over-cuddles-Dora and now-Dora...
Maybe it was her relationship with Marten? You know how two people are great alone, but once they're together they bring out the worst in each other.
And I'm very reminded of the bear hug Faye gave Dora when she broke up with Marten. Less tears and rage, though, but the same kind of friendship.
Edit: I think Bubbles got that coat only so that Faye can drag her back. She had it on for ten minutes or so, and Faye used it twice :D
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Bubbles really, really doesn't enjoy social situations.
You know who she should get to know? Elliot. The two of them could stand beside each other and quietly loom (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1868) together.
Can we please bring that guy back? He was really likable. (But if he ever does re-enter the comic, he had BETTER turn out to be bi, because QC's lack of queer male characters is getting kinda pathetic.)
He did make a quick appearance in 2937 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2937). (During Emily and Clinton's date, stopping a guy from beating them up)
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It's hard to miss your eight foot tall AnthroPc friend trying to sneak out - especially when its Faye.
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I thought that it was going to turn out like this between Dora and Faye: There is no real long-term anger, only fear that they have burned all their bridges and not wanting to confront the consequences of this. I loved Dora's 'long-lost friend/sibling' schtick in panels 1 & 2! Jeph is reminding us just what good friends that they always have been. In the end, fear was their real enemy.
Am I the only one who is getting to love the way that Faye, despite being much smaller, easily calls out Bubbles over her social anxiety and makes her stop running away? The way Bubbles always blushes is cute. It's obvious that time has had its effect; Faye is helping Bubbles, who has clearly learned to trust Faye when she says that she is being irrational.
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Dammit, I cant vote, I dont know what I would have voted before I found out what was coming.
P.s.: But I'm sure I wouldnt have expected that Dora would just hug Faye.
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I think it is a case of very bad design when a combat droid is unable to sneak because she goes "clanc" with every step. So maybe it´s just a joke after all. :lol:
But yesterdays and todays strips are very nice. You can actually feel the relief in Dora when Faye comes back and not in bad blood. She really loves her still (not in a sexual way of cause) and suffered from her own decision to fire her.
Nonetheless the two of them still have plenty of things so sort out. I wonder how much of that will happen onscreen. Maybe not too much.
I´m curious what will happen with Bubbles in this storyline. It is obvious that she still has basically the same problems than before the timejump. I picture at least one scene with Hanners when Faye and Dora are busy catching up. Maybe something that activates the arkward-zone? Time to bring out the funny hats?
TM
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Apparently after the robot fights comes the gun show. :psyduck:
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It occurs to me that Faye is the brash, strong and extrovert personality and Bubbles, despite her immense physical presence, is the quiet, shy and introverted one in this particular odd couple.
I can honestly see the rest of this arc working out with Bubbles sitting quietly in a corner, observing events. That's when Hannelore takes an interest and sits down with her and starts to chat (something that Bubbles will find stressful but illuminating).
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Huh, based on the fact that, as Dora put it, Faye's buff now, it would seem Faye falls into the catagory of someone actually being bigboned and not just slightly heavier then average.
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There's a movement among American home builders for what's known as "Aging in Place". People want to buy a house that will be the last home they ever live in. They want to grow old and ultimately die in the same place. Between the buying and the dying is a long span of time, one hopes, in which the body grows weak and frail, so the design considerations at the pre-planning stages of the home build must take this into effect. Some design features that honor this movement are the utter lack of thresholds. All floors, whether room to room, bathroom to shower, or indoors to outdoors, are completely smooth transitions. This offers less to trip on when the legs are no longer as high stepping as they once were and offer ease of wheelchair access. Similarly, while doorknobs were once the default, more and more homes are being build with lever-handled "knobs". These levers offer greater leverage for lower exertion when the arms are not as powerful, or the hands no longer as dextrous, and are easier to use when young and spry at the same time. Similarly again, rather than little clitorii of a light switch poking out of the wall, large, easily hit rocker-type light switches are easier to frobnicate whether young or old.
My inlaws did exactly this. It was a real help when my mother in law was recovering from her hip replacement.
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At the party, Hannelore's interaction with Bubbles was the least awkward of the bunch. That's not saying much of course.
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Off-topic: CoD's front door is huge. The average door I've seen wouldn't let anybody over 6'6" casually cross without at least getting their head down, yet it doesn't look like Bubbles is doing that.
I thought about that too, but . There are a few factors to consider:- COD is a commercial premises. It is common for shops to have larger doors than houses.
- I don't think Jeph posted Bubble's height in her "spec sheet" comic, so it is hard to be sure, but it would not be logical to build her far outside "tall man" physical norms, since the whole point of humanoid soldier-robots would be to fit into an environment built for homo sapiens.
- The point-of-view in the "Bubbles walks into COD" panel is level with Faye's eyes, and the door is behind Bubbles. The effect of perspective makes the door look smaller and lower, and that might have been a deliberate artistic choice by Jeph to emphasise Bubbles' physical presence.
Standard door sizes (http://www.build.com.au/standard-door-sizes) for houses in Australia are 2040mm (6'8") high by 520-920mm (20-36") wide. The most common width is 820mm (32"), but the Australian standard for wheelchair access (http://www.accesshomes.com.au/content/doors) specifies a minimum "clear width" (from the face of the open door to the opposite frame) of 850mm (33.5").
I am looking at a British Government document that states that the legal requirements for wheelchair access are based on a wheelchair width of 700mm (2'3.6").
Most AS-compliant "standard" manual wheelchairs are under 700mm wide, but "heavy duty" ones go up to 770mm I think, and obviously hand-clearance on both sides is required.
There's a movement among American home builders for what's known as "Aging in Place".
This is very much a thing here (http://www.yourhome.gov.au/housing/livable-and-adaptable-house) too. The Chinese tradition of the multi-generation household (四世同堂 - "Four generations under one roof") still exerts a waning but still strong influence too, so we want our houses to be suitable for at least three generations. In my family, we prefer lever-style door latches anyway, because they can be operated with your wrist, forearm, elbow or shoulder when both hands are occupied or dirty, and the ones that will operate by pushing the lever up or down are the best IMHO.
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Bubbles looks really unsure on how to handle these emotional, anxious meatbags. And she gave Dora a really dainty handshake, I love it.
Hannelore looks increasingly like a human My Little Pony. Yes, I know they have a human spinoff, but MLP ended when I was about 6. I recognize no others.
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A human spinoff? How is that...huh?
Also do you not even recognize Friendship is Magic?
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Ya, it's called Equestria girls.
I recognize it exists, but it is not the MLP of my childhood, so naturally it's wrong. I don't condemn the people who watch it, but it offends some small part of my soul for some reason.
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"Friendship is Magic!"
*stands awkwardly holding hands and thrusting heads forward, doing nothing to stop the Sirens*
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That's when Hannelore takes an interest and sits down with her and starts to chat (something that Bubbles will find stressful but illuminating).
It seems you failed to account for the Weirdness Factor.
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Okay, while i have mixed feelings on the new, progressively more cartoony artstyle...
Damn if this isn't the cutest Hanners has ever looked.
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I should get my head checked, I have more than once in the back of my head thought 'Since X is single I wonder if I have a chance.' about several characters.
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Understandable but it creeps people out to talk about it.
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Oh, I relate so fricking much to Hanners in this. I do this constantly. I've rarely, if ever, mentioned it to the original conversation partner, though.
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I should get my head checked, I have more than once in the back of my head thought 'Since X is single I wonder if I have a chance.' about several characters.
Well, seeing as how they are fictional characters... I'm thinking no. :)
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hanners is lookin good these days, dayum
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And she gave Dora a really dainty handshake, I love it.
It's one of those handshakes you get that says, "you can shake it, but I won't participate, or you can just kiss the ring".
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I don't think she does as I think if Faye had mentioned it at some stage I think Bubbles would have (or quite possibly may do later on), but I wonder if Bubbles is aware that Hanners is the daughter of basically 'The father of AI' in the QCverse.
Knowing how Clinton reacted when he found out, I'm wondering how Bubbles might react. I don't think she'd get violent as, as we've seen, Bubbles might use intimidation tactics, but she seems to go out of her way in avoiding causing any actual physical harm. Something I think is a legacy of what she's been through in the Military.
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Floofy floofy Hanners, yay
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This is the moment when Bubbles realises that, in this bunch, Faye is mostly average!
This is a welcome return to the older OCD characterisation of Hanners. I wonder how many sleepless nights that she spent meticulously researching this matter? She's so sweet, I think that Bubbles is going to end up befriending her due to the 'cute puppy' rule!
I'll bet that Bubbles has never had someone respond to her stock deflection story in a way that makes her feel guilty before!
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Cautious handshake is cautious.
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It's one of those handshakes you get that says, "you can shake it, but I won't participate, or you can just kiss the ring".
Which is still better than "Here, have a fish".
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I don't think she does as I think if Faye had mentioned it at some stage I think Bubbles would have (or quite possibly may do later on), but I wonder if Bubbles is aware that Hanners is the daughter of basically 'The father of AI' in the QCverse.
Knowing how Clinton reacted when he found out, I'm wondering how Bubbles might react. I don't think she'd get violent as, as we've seen, Bubbles might use intimidation tactics, but she seems to go out of her way in avoiding causing any actual physical harm. Something I think is a legacy of what she's been through in the Military.
Honestly, I doubt Bubbles would care that much. Maybe taken a little aback at first, sure, but she doesn't seem to care much about AI history or anything like that, and reacting strongly kinda isn't her wheelhouse in general.
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Oh, I relate so fricking much to Hanners in this. I do this constantly. I've rarely, if ever, mentioned it to the original conversation partner, though.
Same here.
Also, Hanners' speech tells us the timeslip has been "months" rather than years. A nugget of fact!
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I see the mention about Jeph's chat at the library. Pity they're not streaming it.
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I really like the long hair on Hanners and Dora.
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I was ambivalent in regards to Hanners' hair pulled back. But in its full poofy glory, she's more adorable than ever.
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Am I the only one who wonders how Faye's purple jacket disappeared between frames? Dora noticed she got buff THROUGH the jacket and we're seeing her x-ray eyes? Faye was so emotionally overcome she MELTED it away?
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Between any two frames an undisclosed amount of time can pass. However, I'd say that Dora noticed that Faye got buff thru the jacket and ripped it right off.
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Oh, I relate so fricking much to Hanners in this. I do this constantly. I've rarely, if ever, mentioned it to the original conversation partner, though.
Same here.
Also, Hanners' speech tells us the timeslip has been "months" rather than years. A nugget of fact!
Did anyone really think it would have been that long? Besides, there was a fair amount of time after the party but before the timeskip.
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True fact: the time skip was longer than the Poincaré recurrence time of QC's universe. All the characters are long since dead*, but quantum vacuum fluctuations have caused them to be recreated in their current form.
* except Steve. Steve is immortal.
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* except Steve. Steve is immortal.¹
¹ and Randy. Randy is eternal.
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I'm still not digging the new drawing style, sorry. Usually I'd have gotten used to it by now.
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* except Steve. Steve is immortal.¹
¹ and Randy. Randy is eternal.†
† and Pintsize is immoral.
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This is the moment when Bubbles realises that, in this bunch, Faye is mostly average!
In this group, Bubbles is mostly average. Faye doesn't even register on the weirdometer anymore.
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This is the moment when Bubbles realises that, in this bunch, Faye is mostly average!
In this group, Bubbles is mostly average. Faye doesn't even register on the weirdometer anymore.
What units does a weirdometer use.....?
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Hannelore's favourite weirdometer employs the units of Space Oddities.
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This is the moment when Bubbles realises that, in this bunch, Faye is mostly average!
In this group, Bubbles is mostly average. Faye doesn't even register on the weirdometer anymore.
What units does a weirdometer use.....?
Al
Well, technically, anyway; most actually display milli-al because, much like the Bell, a whole Al is far to weird for everyday situations.
I forget the conversion to Imperial though.
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This is the moment when Bubbles realises that, in this bunch, Faye is mostly average!
In this group, Bubbles is mostly average. Faye doesn't even register on the weirdometer anymore.
What units does a weirdometer use.....?
Al
Well, technically, anyway; most actually display milli-al because, much like the Bell, a whole Al is far to weird for everyday situations.
I forget the conversion to Imperial though.
It's been a while since I've taken chemistry, but I think the conversion is 42 mAI to one Buttrocket (Pfft).
Weirdness variation exceeding 3 Pfft/s^2 can be permanently damaging to one's sense of reality.
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This is exactly why we love Hanners SO MUCH.
(why are all you zombies going on about doors?)
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Wait I though Al was American, and SO (Space Oddity) was the British measure?
I think it's 12 Al = 1 SO.
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13 Als for a baker's SO, of course.
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Emily's TALL.
Either that or Sam's helping her with the two-people-one-overcoat gag.
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YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, DON'T YOU?
It means that Bubbles meets Emily. Hilarity ensues. :-D
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Ha, holy shit, the option I added to the poll on Monday might've been correct!
(Also, Faye, she replaced you with Pizza Girl.)
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Is Emily as tall as Bubbles?
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Either that or Sam's helping her with the two-people-one-overcoat gag.
That's what it looked like to me as well.
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Wait I though Al was American, and SO (Space Oddity) was the British measure?
I think it's 12 Al = 1 SO.
Yep. 1 SO is solidly weird. Hannelore's circle of friends are basically propping up the market for imperial weirdometers.
Turner's Royal Weirdometers - for those brief moments of true clarity that can only come from accurate quantification of just how profoundly weird your life is.
Well, it didn't take long for Faye to return to her old ways of sassing Dora, huh? :evil:
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This is the moment when Bubbles realises that, in this bunch, Faye is mostly average!
In this group, Bubbles is mostly average. Faye doesn't even register on the weirdometer anymore.
What units does a weirdometer use.....?
Al
Well, technically, anyway; most actually display milli-al because, much like the Bell, a whole Al is far to weird for everyday situations.
I forget the conversion to Imperial though.
The Imperial unit of weirdness is the Austin.
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Is Emily as tall as Bubbles?
Comparing to Dora's height in yesterday's strip and today's: no. Dora barely reaches Bubbles' chin, while she comes up to Emily's nose.
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Blackmail Replacement is such an ugly word...
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No, Faye, your replacement was Penny. Emily is actually Dale's replacement as the newbie, which I'm sure puts a different complexion on the matter. Not that anyone could really replace you; do your old job, yes, but 'replace? I don't think that's possible!
Meanwhile, we are reminded again that Emily's main attribute is enthusiasm! Boundless, dauntless, eternal and unending enthusiasm for all she knows and does. She'd be emotionally wearing as a friend but, ah, what a ride it would be!
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I should get my head checked, I have more than once in the back of my head thought 'Since X is single I wonder if I have a chance.' about several characters.
Well .... you could try fanfiction.
Then again you could avoid that ordeal.
Either you have no talent then its not worth it anyway ... or you have talent, then you really shouldnt waste it on fan fiction.
Between any two frames an undisclosed amount of time can pass. However, I'd say that Dora noticed that Faye got buff thru the jacket and ripped it right off.
An intriguing theory ... but I have doubts.
Hannelore's favourite weirdometer employs the units of Space Oddities.
I would have suggested Microhanners, but then I realized that Hanners is excessively normal among this cast.
Currently the unit Microemily would be a good base.
I think Padme registers as less than a million Microemily. But not much less. Maybe 800,000 ?
Hanners is probably 100 or 200 thousand Microemily.
Marten, as always, is zero Microemily. He is the island of normality among the cast.
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Meanwhile, we are reminded again that Emily's main attribute is enthusiasm!
Her chief weapon is enthusiasm. Enthusiasm and height. And an almost fanatical devotion to the smoothie.
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And dogs. Don't forget dogs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2993)
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I should get my head checked, I have more than once in the back of my head thought 'Since X is single I wonder if I have a chance.' about several characters.
Well .... you could try fanfiction.
Then again you could avoid that ordeal.
Either you have no talent then its not worth it anyway ... or you have talent, then you really shouldnt waste it on fan fiction.
I actually did write a Danny Phantom fanfic once and it was reasonably well received. I think my level of talent is appropriate for fanfiction. My biggest issues are focus and inspiration, I have two original stories that I haven't been able to make any progress on in years.
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Well .... you could try fanfiction.
Then again you could avoid that ordeal.
Either you have no talent then its not worth it anyway ... or you have talent, then you really shouldnt waste it on fan fiction.
Not true. I have talent, but it's only since I started writing and publishing fan fiction that I've treated my original work seriously instead of "this is a neat little hobby". For example: I started doing NaNo five years ago. I've always completed it, but since I took up fanfic two years ago, the last two NaNos were head and shoulders easier than the first three. Fanfic's given me work ethic, practice making time for the hobby, and it's gotten me used to publishing work so that I'm not nearly as terrified of submitting my original stuff.
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I guess I stand corrected then.
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It's funny; I have only written one QC fanfic, but have almost double-digit of a certain other web comic. Of course, THAT webcomic is based closer to home than Northampton.
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Is it by any chance the one named after a river in Iowa that you had me take pictures of? :-)
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Similarly, while doorknobs were once the default, more and more homes are being build with lever-handled "knobs". These levers offer greater leverage for lower exertion when the arms are not as powerful, or the hands no longer as dextrous, and are easier to use when young and spry at the same time.
Well, from a Continental European (OK, mainly Swiss/German; I can't speak much for other countries) viewpoint this is just America finally coming to her senses. The vast majority of doorknobs you see here are rigid ones, just for pulling the door shut, on doors where the latch can only be operated with a key. All other doors are operated by handles (i.e. "levers") and have been since time immemorial (OK, since the times of deadbolts and crossbars). Only problem: Children around age 2 are able to open the doors before they are able to show proper restraint in doing so.
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I had to remove handles from our doors and replace them with knobs because the dog was able to open the doors.
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They've learned how to open doors...
https://youtu.be/hzIVwpCcgkM
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i've done a few stories myself Penguin47, though recently the writing bug has kinda left me. Put a couple of works up on FF.Net, though they're mostly unfinished. I hope that I will get round to finishing them at some stage.
Some of my better ones I stuck up on a Forum I'm a member of and, unfinished as well, have generally been well received. You do what you like and write what you enjoy is mainly my motto.
Oh come on Faye, you know she feels bad enough about what happened.
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Well, at least the Dog wasn't a Velociraptor
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Well, I don't know. You could get a raptor costume for them....
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Is it by any chance the one named after a river in Iowa that you had me take pictures of? :-)
What, mayhap, gave it away? ;)
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Technically, Dora didn't replace Faye with Emily. She replaced Faye with Penelope. Then she had to replace Penny and did so with Emily.
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My *cat* can open door handles. It's kind of annoying. Since I live alone, I've pretty much given up ever closing any doors except the ones to the outside.
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My *cat* can open door handles. It's kind of annoying. Since I live alone, I've pretty much given up ever closing any doors except the ones to the outside.
Why is the emphasis on "cat?"
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Because it's a dog?
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My *cat* can open door handles. It's kind of annoying. Since I live alone, I've pretty much given up ever closing any doors except the ones to the outside.
Why is the emphasis on "cat?"
Because the cat is tiny and otherwise pretty much useless.
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I think many cats can open doors. It's a weird talent. Mine is a overweight behemoth, so he just throws his weight around to open the bedroom door if it isn't completely shut.
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Our cat, on the other hand, required many weeks of training and encouragement to learn to operate an ordinary cat flap. Even ajar doors can present a mild challenge. Forget about door handles.
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Comic's up.
Emily knows how to handle difficult customers. :-D
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I have a strange urge now to go down to the local cafe and try ordering an upside-down caramel macchiato just to witness the reaction. It'll probably just earn a blank look and a "what" response, though, so maybe not.
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That's an expensive brownie.
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That's an expensive brownie.
I suspect that's so they don't have to sell any.
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It must be pretty amazing. Yes, I have a weakness for brownies.
I just noticed the sizes: S, M, L, WTF. Perfect, really.
I suspect that's so they don't have to sell any.
I guess they have a weakness for brownies after work, too.
Edit: I also just noticed that Faye seems to be giving Emily her Papal Blessing in the last panel.
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Did Faye's sleeveless vest spontaneously grow a sleeve in the last panel?
Also technically Emily replaced Penelope, who replaced Faye as Ass Manager.
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That was such typical Emily. She actually meant it, and wasn't trying to pass Faye's test.
I think many cats can open doors. It's a weird talent. Mine is a overweight behemoth, so he just throws his weight around to open the bedroom door if it isn't completely shut.
My parents also have an overweight behemoth masquerading as cat that can do this with the toilet door when it is completely shut because the latch on the door is so old and weak. From the way he struts back and forth across the toilet floor while you are trying to do your business, I'm pretty sure he only does it because he is deeply proud of his cleverness in opening a closed door. When grandma visited we forgot to warn her about this display of cleverness. It did not impress her. We heard her scream and the toilet door slam from the lounge room.
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So do people not read the thread before posting? Several people pointed out that Penelope was technically the one to replace Faye :roll:
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That was such typical Emily. She actually meant it, and wasn't trying to pass Faye's test.
Emily just doesn't speak Starbonics (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Starbonics). I don't either, so maybe I'm mistranslating, but what would you do with a "quad venti" (five US pints, or about 2.4 litres) of coffee? Give it to your pet hippo?
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I'm guessing a quad venti is a venti with 4 extra shots of espresso?
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I am learning a lot about Starbonics today.
Apparently a "quad venti" does indeed mean a "quadruple shot 20 ounce cup of coffee," rather than 80 ounces.
Close to 600mL is still more liquid than I need in just about any drink, but YMMV.
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Four shots, four Splenda ... you'd wake up about 2 a.m. with your chest feeling like someone had just pull-started the small two-stroke gas engine that is suddenly where your heart was. And you swear you can hear the engine.
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It must be starfucks-speak if a macchiato contains anything more than the espresso with a bit of foam on the top (aka, "marked"), it's fucking WRONG. Even with long-pulls, four shots of espresso+foam would be 12 oz, tops.
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Is "upside-down" also scum-spamming Starbonics? The foam goes on the --bottom--?
And Faye is still wearing her special shoes.
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Is "upside-down" also scum-spamming Starbonics? The foam goes on the --bottom--?
And Faye is still wearing her special shoes.
You mean the hollowed-out rat carcass (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2029)?
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That was such typical Emily. She actually meant it, and wasn't trying to pass Faye's test.
Emily just doesn't speak Starbonics (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Starbonics). I don't either, so maybe I'm mistranslating, but what would you do with a "quad venti" (five US pints, or about 2.4 litres) of coffee? Give it to your pet hippo?
You are asking the wrong person. I'm Australian. Starbucks failed miserably when they tried to come here. They ended up closing down 60 of their 84 stores a mere eight years after entering Australia, and when I looked at all the places that still had Starbucks they were all places the foreign tourists went like the Gold Coast and Sydney. When Starbucks arrived in Australia back in 2000 thinking they were going to introduce coffee culture to us, they discovered a market of people who already had a strong coffee culture after a lot of Italian and Greek migrants in the 1950s based around the espresso that were decidedly unimpressed with these overly sweet and milk filled beverages purporting to be coffee. American's put way more sugar and milk into their coffee than Australians. I've heard people describe American coffee as 'coffee flavoured milkshake'.
So I didn't understand a damn thing Faye said. An Australian does not understand if, on the rare occasions you must specify what size coffee you want, the words 'small/medium/large' are not used. An Australian does not understand how a coffee can be 'upside down'. An Australian does not understand why anyone would put caramal in their coffee (Seriously? Please tell me I'm misuderstanding the ingredient and you don't actually put caramal in coffee).
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I don't think Emily wants to step into -those- shoes.
Also, when I order a 'large' at Starbucks, they always give me a 'venti'. As if I don't know what I want...
What -do- the Aussies say? Bloody huge?
'What a relief.' Otherwise it would have been on the 'Specials' board tomorrow...
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Also, the "my body is ready" line just sounds kind of bizarre.
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Actually Australian's don't have much sized coffee. Most places you just walk into the cafe and say: "Gimme coffee" and the staff go "here" and give you a standard sized mug, with not a lot of variation between different franchises and stores. It's probably because we like strong flavoured coffee, and if you start mucking about the sizes you risk the flavour becoming overpowering or watered down, so having the same size mug is easier for the baristas.
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Wildroses, I guess you don't live in Sydney, then. Most cafes in Sydney do, in fact, sell coffee in different sizes.
Also, Akima wasn't actually asking you specifically, I imagine. :-P
Edit: I forgot to answer the question: regular/large is the usual selection, I think. Unless you order something like a piccolo or a macchiato, where the size is implied.
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Yep, I'm from Perth. I'll add sized coffee as another thing they do differently in the East. We are the state who was dragged kicking and screaming into Federation by the goldminers, then tried to persuade an unwilling England to take us back 14 years later, so I don't think it is a big surprise at how different the West and Eastern states can be. Our current premier's long and successful political leadership career could probably be summarised as: "Yay West Boo East".
I assumed Akima was asking me because I was quoted in the post, but you're probably right.
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OK, this isn't off topic, really - just give me a minute...
Mattel Inc. has finally introduced new Barbie body types. The pic below shows petite, tall, curvy, and ... well, she's pretty much a standard barbie only black. So, alternative skin coloring. Oh, smaller boobs, too.
(http://www.toledoblade.com/image/2016/01/28/800x_b1_cCM_z/Barbies-Body-1-28.jpg)
OK, so does the tall one remind anyone else of Emily? :psyduck:
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Kind of? Only because she's tall, really.
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I assumed Akima was asking me because I was quoted in the post, but you're probably right.
I meant "you" as in "one".
I live in Sydney, and as far as I am concerned, there are just two types of coffee, a "short black" (espresso) or a "long black" (double espresso poured into about 150ml hot water, never the other way round because it will destroy the crema). Anything with milk is right out.
As for the Barbie doll... maybe? She's certainly tall, with brown eyes, and straight dark hair. I don't think she's supposed to be of East Asian descent though, but it's hard to be sure because Mattel doesn't really mould to that level of detail. I mean, would you immediately pick this (http://i.imgur.com/k6RzJJK.jpg) as Asian Barbie?
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I have long suspected that basically all coffees are identical and these confusing names are just an excuse to double, triple or even quadruple the price. It was nice of Emily to confirm that for me. By the way, Emily would have got extra credit if she'd responded with some witty insult, whilst Faye would have declared her a Master of the Art if said insult had been in an exotic foreign language! :-D
Meanwhile, Dora has been reminded of the other reason she fired Faye other than the 'drunk at work' thing: She can be really, really obnoxious and unreasonable.
Now, am I the only one who thinks that Jeph enjoyed drawing that close-up of Faye's glare?
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The eyes! Oh my god, the eyes! I feel like falling in a bottomless pit, filled with eternal damnation, punchings and unhumanly strong coffee.
*shiver*
I've heard people describe American coffee as 'coffee flavoured milkshake'.
Yes, thats what Starbucks is generally selling here in Germany too. But I have to admit that their coffee-milkshakes are pretty good. It´s just that they aren´t coffee. If I want coffee, I got to a real coffeeshop or to the coffeemachine in my companys kitchen, which actually works pretty well.
But I prefer the good old german filtercoffee anyway. :-D
*duckandcover*
TM
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Meanwhile, Dora has been reminded of the other reason she fired Faye other than the 'drunk at work' thing: She can be really, really obnoxious and unreasonable.
That obnoxious and unreasonable put Caffè of Doom on the maps of the town.
So while annoying for Dora it definitely was beneficial to her business.
Also I live in Sydney and I get large mocha every day.
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And she gave Dora a really dainty handshake, I love it.
It's one of those handshakes you get that says, "you can shake it, but I won't participate, or you can just kiss the ring".
No, it's one of those handshakes that says "I don't even want to look like I might conceivably crush your hand." Bubbles is strong, and is very sensitive to other people's perceptions of her.
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I was really enjoying the anti-bullshit attitude of the Australians towards coffee, but
Anything with milk is right out.
That's a bit hard core even for me, though I will drink espresso if I need to keep myself awake on a long drive.
In the UK we have a thing called 'Americano', which I guess the Americans don't, at least not by that name. It's a bit like your 'long black' with optional drop of milk.
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Emily would have got extra credit if she'd responded with some witty insult, whilst Faye would have declared her a Master of the Art if said insult had been in an exotic foreign language! :-D
Even so - 'dumb and bad' to Faye's face is pretty creditworthy for pure bravery!
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In America we just call it "coffee".
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I just hate coffee. The end.
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I'm guessing a quad venti is a venti with 4 extra shots of espresso?
A quad venti is a drink made from ground up sport vehicles as opposed to coffee beans. Why else do you think Faye used to have all that metalworking gear?
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"Venti" is simply a measure of volume - a "quad venti" would be 80 US fluid ounces.
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OK, this isn't off topic, really - just give me a minute...
Mattel Inc. has finally introduced new Barbie body types. The pic below shows petite, tall, curvy, and ... well, she's pretty much a standard barbie only black. So, alternative skin coloring. Oh, smaller boobs, too.
The Daily Mash has this one covered, as usual - http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/new-curvy-barbie-comes-with-host-of-self-esteem-issues-20160129105755 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/new-curvy-barbie-comes-with-host-of-self-esteem-issues-20160129105755)
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In the UK we have a thing called 'Americano', which I guess the Americans don't, at least not by that name. It's a bit like your 'long black' with optional drop of milk.
A Canadian/American americano is espresso cut with water. Supposedly, it was when the Americans went to some nation of other and the coffee was too strong, so they added water to it. I never saw the point, until I went to a coffee place with my old farmerdad and they didn't sell drip coffee. Turns out, a double americano is practically the same thing.
I like lattes and things, but I get them from the local chain rather than Starbucks. The variety isn't there, but it's all fair trade and whatnot.
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I do enjoy lattes, generally on the size of "just fuck my whole life up". Stuff without milk I generally reserve for the summer, when you can put ice in your coffee.
Also, I believe that's exactly what you should be answered if you came with all these stupid commands even in starbucks. "Gimme a *stuff*" "Oh, so some coffee, here you go, have a nice day ( 'w')"
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You can always put ice in your coffee.
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I just hate coffee. The end.
My new best friend.
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I can't drink coffee. It does terrible things to me. It's not the caffeine - I can tolerate tea and sodas quite well. But there's something else in coffee - I don't know what - that I can't tolerate at all.
So Starbuckese is a totally foreign language to me. "Venti macchiato? Nah, I'm not really into Pokémon (http://"http://www.xkcd.com/178/")."
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quote from You've got mail:
"The whole purpose of places like Starbucks is for people with no decision-making ability whatsoever to make six decisions just to buy one cup of coffee. Short, tall, light, dark, caf, decaf, low-fat, non-fat, etc. So people who don't know what the hell they're doing or who on earth they are can, for only $2.95, get not just a cup of coffee but an absolutely defining sense of self: Tall. Decaf. Cappuccino. "
'I'll make you a nice espresso instead.'
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I recently discovered cold-brewed coffee. I've always preferred it cold (keeps its flavor better that way) but cold-brewing was new to me. It's simple, really: Put a pitcher of water, with coffee grounds poured into it, in your fridge overnight. Or if you're making concentrate, use a lot of coffee grounds and leave it a few days. Don't use a plastic pitcher for this, BTW; it's really hard to get them clean afterward.
In the morning, strain the coffee grounds out and you've got a pitcher full of really excellent coffee. It can be quite concentrated and flavorful without being bitter. Well, without being more bitter than drip coffee, which isn't very concentrated or flavorful.
If you want it hot, I suppose you'd put it into a microwave, but I prefer to get a mug straight from the freezer, or if I happen to have some (about three days a week depending on when my groceries are delivered) I can pour it over dry ice. I will never, though, pour it over water ice. Well, not unless I'm just thirsty and want the extra liquid volume.
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The only true Coffee is Filter Coffee
Instant's OK if you're in a hurry though
Love how Emily calls bullshit on Fayes order in her typical fashion though. :)
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I've tried cold-brewed, and it doesn't seem as strong to me, even if I let it sit for a long time. Then again, my cold brewing pitcher kit (basically it has a filter to hold the grounds in) basically said to go 12-24 hours to make concentrate, and I found I was drinking straight concentrate and getting almost as much caffeine as drip coffee, so maybe it needed to sit for longer.
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I can't drink coffee. It does terrible things to me. It's not the caffeine - I can tolerate tea and sodas quite well. But there's something else in coffee - I don't know what - that I can't tolerate at all.
Apparently I suffer from a genetic reaction to an amino acid in coffee that burns iron. For most people, it's not a big deal - not that much of a reaction. But I was drinking 2 cups a day for a few months when I started grad school, and was passing out in the afternoon - in class, at my desk, during colloquia, wherever.
Then one day I went to give blood. The attendant pricked my finger, and let the drop into the little vial of blue stuff to test for iron (gives you an idea how long ago this was...).
She looked at the drop floating there on the surface, looked at me, looked at the drop again, and then asked me, "How come you're still conscious?"
Turns out coffee - even decaf - makes me anemic. Really anemic. I drink lots of black tea to get my caffeine.
When I started my new job, there was a free coffee machine that said it gave tea. It tasted like coffee, and I assumed that was just traces from the last cup. Turns out that they never put tea concentrate into the machine, just used watered down coffee. After a week, I was passing out in the training sessions and my wife said I looked like a ghost. I went back to real tea and recovered in a few days. Then bitched a royal fit to the vendor.
Just got word that they'll be replacing the coffee machines soon... probably not just me, though. Lots of people complain about how temperamental it is... almost as bad as a real barista, but with worse coffee!
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You can always put ice in your coffee.
Well you physically can but I don't tolerate the cold at all and dropping two rocks of ice in my coffee would not help.
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Ahh. I drink iced coffee all year round because I just prefer it.
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The only true Coffee is Filter Coffee
Debatable :-\
Instant's OK if you're in a hurry though
Burn the heretic :evil:
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The only true Coffee
No such thing.
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I was really enjoying the anti-bullshit attitude of the Australians towards coffee, but
Anything with milk is right out.
That's a bit hard core even for me, though I will drink espresso if I need to keep myself awake on a long drive.
Heh... I'm not hard-core; I just can't digest lactose comfortably (like the vast majority of my ethnic group).
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Akima would never survive in Wisconsin.
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I have found recently I can drink and even enjoy a long black without sugar, but that's where you need to start being pickier about whom you have make it for you.
Luckily for me, I do enjoy a cafe fairly close by where I live that makes quite a decent long black.
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We usually leave our cold brew in the fridge for at least 48 hours. Until our newest flatmate introduced us to pressure infusion. Basically you make cold brew in a cream whipper, pressurised with up to three capsules of N₂O (that makes for about 40atm/580psi) which is the usual whipping agent, and you'll have really, really good cold brew in just 45 minutes.
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Actually Australian's don't have much sized coffee. Most places you just walk into the cafe and say: "Gimme coffee" and the staff go "here" and give you a standard sized mug, with not a lot of variation between different franchises and stores. It's probably because we like strong flavoured coffee, and if you start mucking about the sizes you risk the flavour becoming overpowering or watered down, so having the same size mug is easier for the baristas.
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I was really enjoying the anti-bullshit attitude of the Australians towards coffee, but
Anything with milk is right out.
That's a bit hard core even for me, though I will drink espresso if I need to keep myself awake on a long drive.
Heh... I'm not hard-core; I just can't digest lactose comfortably (like the vast majority of my ethnic group).
They don't have soya in Sydney? It's rather common around where I live, and I actually prefer it when I just need to add a splash of something to cool the drink down.
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If I have to have anything at a Cafe if it doesn't have Filter, I go for a Flat White.
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They don't have soya in Sydney?
I never thought of that. I guess I'm just not in the habit of thinking of dairy products, or substitutes for them.
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Heh... I'm not hard-core; I just can't digest lactose comfortably (like the vast majority of my ethnic group).
Ah - I knew that (about the general lactose intolerance), but I misread your post as milk being "right out" for Australians as a cultural thing, not for you in particular.
Apologies for the misunderstanding. If I ever visit Australia, now I don't have to worry about being laughed at for asking for milk in my coffee.
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Nah. Lattes are popular in Sydney. Even though 'latte sipper' is a terrible insult. But, you know. People.
Edit: But then there's flat whites, which are supposedly different even though NO BARISTA EVER MAKES THEM DIFFERENTLY.
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I logged in expecting opinions on whether Faye is pretending to be cool and is reeling herself in, or maybe just intentionally giving Dora a hard time regarding Emily.
So of course I was surprised when I found an entire page of discussion dedicated to coffee.
For the record I have weaned myself from sugar, trying to embrace the actual coffee's taste instead of disguising it.
Shame.
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I got out of the habit of putting sugar in my coffee after I started drinking Starbucks coffee in grad school. Mainly because their coffee is so bitter that nothing is effective at masking it, so there's no purpose in trying.
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I prefer it Milk and two Sugars
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Can't help but think if a drink needs sugar to be drinkable, then the drink's being done wrong.
Who needs to put sugar in beer?
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I don't think Starbucks coffee needs sugar.
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I don't have sugar in my coffee anymore, it does make you notice a bad cup that much more though. I cannot tell you how more frequently I am disappointed in my coffee now that I don't have sugar in it. It is better when the coffee is good, but I have yet to find a place nearby that is good all of the time.
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Can't help but think if a drink needs sugar to be drinkable, then the drink's being done wrong.
Who needs to put sugar in beer?
I think it's fair to say that it's an aquired taste.
Even more so than beer.
I decided relatively late in life to acquire a taste for coffee (much to the bemusement of my partner). It took quite awhile.
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Can't help but think if a drink needs sugar to be drinkable, then the drink's being done wrong.
Who needs to put sugar in beer?
I think it's fair to say that it's an aquired taste.
Even more so than beer.
I decided relatively late in life to acquire a taste for coffee (much to the bemusement of my partner). It took quite awhile.
That leads to the interesting thought that many, perhaps most, things are acquired tastes, with only a liking for sugar and fat being innate. Which gives rise to the sugary foods liked by children, as they haven't had a chance to acquire tastes for anything else.
But then, I think I have an odd relationship with sugar - my parents never allowed it in the house When I was eight or so, I was aware it was a big deal with my contemporaries and when I had the chance, tried it by putting some teaspoons of sugar in a glass of water. To paraphrase my thoughts... "So this is what they mean by 'sweet'... wow it that it? Seriously unimpressed here."
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I decided relatively late in life to acquire a taste for coffee (much to the bemusement of my partner). It took quite awhile.
Yeah, it took a brain injury to get me into coffee.
I'm not even joking. I came out of a coma, and one of the first things I remember is really wanting a cup of coffee
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I wonder if that was some kind of adaptive response. In the wild, injured and sick animals are known to change their diet and eat things they don't eat when they're healthy.
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@bhtooefr - when cold brewing, definitely don't use a filter to keep the coffee grounds from mixing with the water while brewing. You're absolutely right, it makes the resulting brew quite weak. Or else it makes it take several days, take your pick.
@Akima - Yes, the ability to digest milk as adults is kind of bizarre for any mammal. Humans (of some ethnic groups anyhow) are just weird that way. I have known at least one person whose lactose intolerance would magically go away for a few days after she ate some live culture yogurt, but I'm not entirely sure what kind of lactose-intolerance she had, so it might not work for you. Ms. Lau used that trick because she had acquired a taste for pizza with real cheese. If you don't have a reason to want to, there's no need to experiment.
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I worked as a barista for awhile at a locally-owned/operated chocolate and coffee chain in midwest America. Starbucks is the main competitor in that area. It wasn't Coffee of Doom, but it was fairly hipster for the midwest. Beans were locally roasted, etc.
Single/double/triple/quad refers to number of shots pulled. Without a size specified, a single is a small, a double is a medium, a triple is a large, a quad is a large with an extra shot. Generally.
Starbucks-ese also has cup sizes (fluid oz) for tall, medium, and venti. In normal sizes that would be small, medium, large. Specifying a cup size means x shots in that cup size.
Starbucks-ese bastardizes the actual meaning of 'macchiato'. Their version of a macchiato is baaaasically a latte. So what isn't shots in the cup, is milk or syrup.
A latte is a third espresso, a third steamed milk and a third foam. Americans also add syrup. A Starbucks caramel macchiato upside down would just have the coffee floating on top instead of at the bottom.
An actual macchiato is espresso with a dollop of foamed milk. An actual dollop. Of the foam. Doing this upside down would be really stupid.
Yes, Americans put caramel syrup in their coffee. They also put 50 other flavors of syrup in their coffee. Some Americans choose to drink coffee straight or without syrups. However, Americans are very unlikely to do this at Starbucks.
This is in part because Starbucks uses cheap beans and to compensate for the cheap beans, they tend to over-roast their coffee beans, leading a burnt taste. Starbucks coffee tends to be difficult to drink straight. I believe Folgers, the leading brew at home coffee company, also does this, but it's been awhile since I've thought about it.
Americans are not the only ones who put sweeteners in their coffee, but a regular cup of American joe is probably brewed a lot more weakly than European variants. The regulars who weren't American would have straight espresso, black coffee or cappuccinos. I got pretty good at making cappuccinos over time. I was told once by a regular couple that 'in Europe, they didn't need to provide free refills-- one cup of coffee was always enough'. American diners are all about the free refills.
Vietnamese coffee is also very sweet, due to using sweetened condensed milk as part of the recipe.
The more you know. Insert star rainbow here.
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They don't have soya in Sydney? It's rather common around where I live, and I actually prefer it when I just need to add a splash of something to cool the drink down.
Something I forgot to mention. It's not uncommon in Sydney to be charged extra for soy milk.
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Starbucks does that too. Then again, my usual order is four shots of espresso over ice.
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They don't have soya in Sydney? It's rather common around where I live, and I actually prefer it when I just need to add a splash of something to cool the drink down.
Something I forgot to mention. It's not uncommon in Sydney to be charged extra for soy milk.
Same here if someone wants a latte or something similar with it, but I haven't seen anywhere that charges extra for just a splash in otherwise black coffee. Granted, it costs more, but the amount of the charges for things like soya and syrup help the place stay in business.
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What is this Starbucks you speak of?
The only real Starbuck that I know of flies a Viper
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I wonder if that was some kind of adaptive response. In the wild, injured and sick animals are known to change their diet and eat things they don't eat when they're healthy.
Sort of. I actually know exactly what it was. I had about a week of technically being conscious before my memory started working again, and during that time, they had me shuffling between speech, physical, and occupational therapists, all of whom would let me take coffee breaks in the middle of their sessions. So I took a lot of coffee breaks.
The only real Starbuck that I know of flies a Viper
The real Starbuck hears nothing but the rain. The fake Starbucks get bad music playlists and the gentle drip of caffeine
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What is this Starbucks you speak of?
The only real Starbuck that I know of flies a Viper
That she does.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYIHbVfXto