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i honestly have no idea what "emo" is, i know its a type of music or something, which is definitely not held in a high regard on this site, but what the hell is it? sorry if this has been asked before but i didnt see any topics on it. thanks
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http://www.quiki.net/index.php/Emo
Posting before Tommy can do it...
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thanks brother, ill check that link out
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hmmm...i must be thinking of something else...for some reason i thought it was all those little pre pubescent brats with their fucked up hair wearing makeup and shiz...
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tommy calls that de-pop it can also be called consumer driven music designed to exploit the teenage angst or theres the final possibilty that the definition of the word emo may have changed since the 1990's and now is actually defined as something different like metal no longer applies to ac/dc and thin lizzy which are now classified as hard rock...but i don;t think tommy likes that last answer (i think we even had an argument about it)
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Emo is pretty awesome.
Panic at the Disco were on the cover of Rolling Stone, did you see?
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thanks for the replies guys
and whats panic at the disco? i havent read a rollingstone in probably about 10 years
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and whats panic at the disco? i havent read a rollingstone in probably about 10 years
Sir, make it a plan to never find out. Ever.
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i concur with the above statement if cornered by a friend trying to play you some gouge your eardrums out
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haha, all right, well thanks for the warning fellas
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Sir, make it a plan to never find out. Ever.
Bold"e'd for emphasis. Seriously, if you don't know who this god-awful band, I envy you muchly.
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Sir, make it a plan to never find out. Ever.
Bold"e'd for emphasis. Seriously, if you don't know who this god-awful band, I envy you muchly.
i must be the happiest man on the planet.
and thanks for the info tommy, that was definitely an interesting article.
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This is probably the best thread we've had on the topic ever.
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yeah, it seems to be a relatively insightful and respectful thread.
i think i just saw the 4 horsemen run by
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'Emo' is something people get labeled when they sound too sensitive and emotional in a male context.
There are some incarnations of 'emo' that are just a bunch of self-pitying whining, and they deserve all the scorn they get. But there's also the more plaintive, reflective form of emo that gets unjustly lumped together with the 'whiny' emo.
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noted. thanks bill, makes sense.
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tommy calls that de-pop
I am a staunch advocate of that term and actually use it in place of the updated "emo."
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I think it was Spinless, actually.
It's still a great term.
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I'm not gonna launch into a dissertation on this because it's not worth doing, but the emo that is currently being shoved down America's throat has nothing to do with emo several years back. This is not to validate any of the pre-Hot Topic emo stuff, because for the most part it's garbage as well. Rites of Spring and Braid are two bands who were a fairly huge influence to earlier bands in the genre and are definitely worth checking out, as is the easy one, which is Fugazi.
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Clara invented the word (edit: Or was it one of the Kats?) I think it was me and Johnny that decided it was brilliant and adopted it into everyday usage.
"Depressing(ly bad) pop music-De-pop"
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oh god the Joan Rivers guitar is back
I have too been using depop instead.
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Why the hell isn't the thread in which "de-pop" originated coming up in the search? The term isn't even a year old.
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because i fucked it into submission
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Classy!
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Emo is that feeling you get when the girl in your art class, who you've been secretly pining after for a long time but haven't said more than three words to, finally comes up to you and you get all excited. "Things are looking up for me!!" you think to yourself as your throat goes dry and you begin to cold sweat from nervousness. But it turns out she wants to know if your best friend has a girlfriend and if you'll give her his phone number. So you go home and lay on your hand and stare at the wall while hugging a pillow to your chest as a Smiths chorus repeats in your head.
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no generally i get the whitlams rather than the smiths
there's a girl i know
i want to take her around the world
but she's so unreliable, so unreliable
and it would be my luck
she only likes me when she gets drunk
lately she's been thinking
of giving up drinking
and for all the wrist slitting blood filled sorrow lyrics of modern "emo" music it still has nothing on that
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Emo is that feeling you get when the girl in your art class, who you've been secretly pining after for a long time but haven't said more than three words to, finally comes up to you and you get all excited. "Things are looking up for me!!" you think to yourself as your throat goes dry and you begin to cold sweat from nervousness. But it turns out she wants to know if your best friend has a girlfriend and if you'll give her his phone number. So you go home and lay on your hand and stare at the wall while hugging a pillow to your chest as a Smiths chorus repeats in your head.
W_-
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Wow, these emo threads are really evolving. I came here expecting a full out bashing, from definitions to caustic, biting remarks on how 'ur mom is emo'. I'm surprised. QC is truly all grown up, for the most part. I can now predict the tone of the responses to this remark. Tee-hee, I said remark.
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Emo is that feeling you get when it rains and nobody shows up to your grassroots depleted uranium protest vegan bake sale.
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Emo is when nobody comments on your Livejournal for over two weeks, even after a fifty Hitler post.
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Emo is "ome," backwards.
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Emo is when nobody comments on your Livejournal for over two weeks, even after a fifty Hitler post.
Sig'd!
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Emo is actually a pretty good reggae singer.
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Classy!
yeah, i get that a lot
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Emo is actually probably Screeching Weasel's worst album.
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dare i say...i know nothing of screaching weasel other than a name?
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They were a pretty excellent pop-punk band from back in the day. Pick up their album My Brain Hurts.
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i will definitely do that, im always lookin for new tunage, thanks brudda
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No prob.
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where have i seen that little green gloop thin thats in your avatar?
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Yeah, it was a meme from a couple months ago, and I've been too lazy to change my avatar.
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oh ok, now i remember that ish
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emo is not what somone is but instead meerly tries to be. i have yet to meet an emo who was acctually emotionally disturbed, much less emotionally disturbing so... they just dont exist its a benginly failing philosophy!
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My mission for the next week is to use the descriptor "benginly failing" in my philosophy classes.
Also, what?
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Emo is how I feel when I go to take a shit and one of my roommates is in the shower.
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emo is when you think nobody understands you, but in fact they understand you all too well
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Emo is where you buy your petrol. In Laois.
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what i meant by benginly failing is that it is a cancerlike failing in our simplistic society of weirdos and lunitics(i choose not to mention loners because i am a loner)that is misinterpreted by many and unattainable by all so it is just unnecessary!!!
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Emo is how I feel when I go to take a shit and one of my roommates is in the shower.
heheheheh
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I have a friend who is into the original emo stuff. We were talking about this latest crop of "emo" yesterday, and realised we should start calling it "nu-emo"
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Emo is when a load of people painstakingly define something as not being something else then someone comes along and ignores all of it.
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This thread is amazing. I am enlightened.
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emo is not what somone is but instead meerly tries to be. i have yet to meet an emo who was acctually emotionally disturbed, much less emotionally disturbing so... they just dont exist its a benginly failing philosophy!
i have. i know several.
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not what i was saying. i know "emo" kids who have troubles that are for the most part, outside of normal living circumstances.
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emo is being emotionally disurbed. Like that guy in Disturbed.
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I just registered to respond to this post. Emo is a really unfortunate term for some of the raddest punk bands of the late '80s and early '90s, e.g. Moss Icon, Heroin, Honeywell, Native Nod, Indian Summer, etc. I'm a big fan.
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wouldn't those still be considered punk? since emo didn't really come about until the 90s?
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ill stop with the red oh and its was because i have a shittty time seeing white on grey bunghole!
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wouldn't those still be considered punk? since emo didn't really come about until the 90s?
Well, the term first came into use in the mid-'80s (I think Thrasher was the first place it turned up in print, if I remember right) to describe DC area bands who'd gotten sick of hardcore's de rigeur, like Embrace and Rites of Spring (Moss Icon was from Maryland, along with The Hated who also ruled). It wasn't really considered a seperate thing from punk and hardcore until bands like Jimmy Eat World, et al started breaking into the mainstream and the term became the cultural catchall we're all familiar with today.
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ah okay.
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emo is creating your own problems and then whining about it.
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Emo is arguing about emo on the internet. Seriously, read tommy's article, then read the Wikipedia, and then stop saying the same things over and over.
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just some comments. Fist i'm happy to see that it's the first time i read a discussion concerning "emo" when no one says "it's gay", i really take that personally, i mean i am gay and i am in no way affiliated with anything emo. Emo (i mean the new conception of emo like Panic at the Disco) suck ass i an belive me i know about sucking ass (bacause of the gay thing, by the way the comcept is rimming or anilingus).
Second, c'mon the Smiths? yeah, morrissey gets a little bit (or maybe a lot) whiney but still nothing to compare to Emo preteen kids at hot topic.
In fact i don't think Emo kids would know Morrissey or the Smiths, they are way to young and music tasteless. Maybe they would know "How soon is know" 'cause of the covers.
Third and last well emo (nowdays) is to emocore (though i'm not a big fan of emocore either, but at least it doesn't make me want to wish i was deaf) is what nu metal was to ac/dc. Get the idea?
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Emo rocks.
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AC/DC get kind of really boring after listening to them more than 3 times. Plenty of emocore doesn't. Advantage emocore.
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By the way, relating your first post to rimming other dudes is not the greatest way to make a good first impression.
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Um, benign tumors are not life-threatening.
Yes, they are. They just aren't cancer.
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AC/DC get kind of really boring after listening to them more than 3 times. Plenty of emocore doesn't. Advantage emocore.
Disagree.
AC/DC are not only Australian (++ party factor), they're classic, straight-out rock which is rare these days.
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No, I agree with Dark Flame. AC/DC is probably one of the most overrated bands of all time. They've made the same album, hell, practically the same SONG about a dozen times. If you've heard Hell's Bells, you've heard more or less all AC/DC has to offer the music world at large.
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No, I agree with Dark Flame. AC/DC is probably one of the most overrated bands of all time. They've made the same album, hell, practically the same SONG about a dozen times. If you've heard Hell's Bells, you've heard more or less all AC/DC has to offer the music world at large.
That depends on your familiarity with hard/classic rock and the music you currently listen to. Since I listen to AC/DC as a part of my own mix and at leisure I don't find it to be repetative. Plus, they sound completely rad.
(lol taste talking)
And "overrated" is as subjective as music taste. Since for bands like Led Zeppelin, AC/DC and Black Sabbath I had only general ideas that they were "good" before listening to them, I was pleasantly surprised to find that they rocked my socks the fuck off. : D
My point in all of this is that I'm sure this disagreement will loop like a motherfucker.
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How about this new band that totally rocks, I think they're called At the Drive-In. Totally rock.
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No, I agree with Dark Flame. AC/DC is probably one of the most overrated bands of all time. They've made the same album, hell, practically the same SONG about a dozen times. If you've heard Hell's Bells, you've heard more or less all AC/DC has to offer the music world at large.
But it's a good song.
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No, I agree with Dark Flame. AC/DC is probably one of the most overrated bands of all time. They've made the same album, hell, practically the same SONG about a dozen times. If you've heard Hell's Bells, you've heard more or less all AC/DC has to offer the music world at large.
and Guns & Rose's music.
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AC/DC are... classic, straight-out rock which is rare these days.
I swear to God, I recommend The Eagles Of Death Metal every second topic and nobody listens.
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Question: what does everyone dislike about emo? The most common answer is its often self-important angst and dreariness, but a lot of songs that the people here seem to love have a lot of the same emotions.
Personally, I dislike Bright Eyes for their blandness of tune and Panic at the Disco for their arhythmic, phonemically cacophonous, forced rhymes (I can't even hear the tune), but neither of these seem inherent to the genre...neither really carries over to the other.
I know a guy who claims to hate "emo," but his definition carries over to pretty much everything indie, so he only listens to 70's pop.
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Bright Eyes and Panic! At The Disco are pretty much nothing alike.
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I've never used that word.
I can't recall who coined it.
de-pop. that was me. hurr. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,12369.0.html)
near lurker - most of the bands that fall into the fake emo category, well, suck. they sound whiney, only know 3 chords, the lyrics are attrocious, and they dress like they fell into a teen girl's closet not knowing what to do with themselves. there are some out there that are good, but they fall into their correct genre labels, so it's ok.
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personally, i like bright eyes, interesting stuff
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Bright Eyes isn't emo whichever definition you choose...
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I swear to God, I recommend The Eagles Of Death Metal every second topic and nobody listens.
Well shit.
/away to YouTube
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so why is your ass mad?
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I don't know why. I only know that it sounds like an EMG-81.
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Ian MacKaye sez... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbdh0Qm_5A0)
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Emo is how I feel when I go to take a shit and one of my roommates is in the shower.
God I nearly fell off my chair when I read that.
Anyways, old emo is one of a long line of musical sub-genres which I am merely apathetic towards.
Modern emo, de-pop, emocore or whatever you want to call it is bad for every reason music can be: Awful lyrics and no musical ability.
Being a fan of metal I want to punch the store manager in the face whenever I see 'My Chemical Romance' or 'Panic! At the Disco' in the metal section. They are in no metal, in many ways they are barely music. Any genre where singers cry on stage after nearly every song (Brand New) or sings in an awful voice but becomes famous worldwide (Fall Out Boy) deserve binning.
But again I could say this about a whole list of other genres: nu-metal, rapcore, Jay Z/50 cent etc. Style hip-hop/rap/urban, Artic Monkeys style 'indie' I could go on.
In the end there is always going to be music which people think sucks. It's just a lot worse when that of sucky music either 'inspires' (Im using that word in the loosest way possible) people to commit violence against themselves or others.
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theres people that think MCR is metal? hahahaha
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According to their myspace, they themselves think they are metal.
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someone slap them please.
hard.
for me.
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As soon as I saw the thread name, I thought "Offshoot of '80s punk!" but I was beaten to that.
So I will say that general society now uses "emo" to describe "sensitive boys" who cry, cut themselves, wear girl's jeans, tight shirts, and more makeup than the average female. (I'm not a fan of that definition of emo.)
Whenever I see these people at school (who mainly listen to Panic! At the Disco, et al), I'm torn between asking them where I can buy the cute jeans they're wearing and wanting to cry (another reaction is sometimes asking them if they can, in less than 500 words, tell me the origins of emo and why they aspire to be categorized as such).
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Emo is gay.
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No, you're gay.
Wait...
Fuck.
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there's guys that wear girl jeans? that is so not :mrgreen:
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Hey Storm, heard from UPenn yet?
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there's guys that wear girl jeans? that is so not :mrgreen:
Oh Vanilla Gorilla I wish I lived in your world of ignorant bliss (regarding 'emocore' related things anywho).
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move to colorado my friend. i live in a shack in the mountains.
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Hokay, so what would be the proper term for the angsty tagnuts you see in the black jeans that are far too tight for them and The Used/My Chemical Romance/etc. t-shirts? They're often seen in the company of a fairly "big" girl also wearing black jeans that are far too tight for them and a very unflattering stripey black and red top. They seem to form small flocks around shopping centres and a big "alternative/metal" music store in the city.
Um, benign tumors are not life-threatening.
Yes, they are. They just aren't cancer.
Ehhh, hate to contaradict you but benign tumours *are* cancer. The difference between a benign tumour and a malignant one is that a benign cancer is encapsulated by a covering of tough tissue that basically stops it spreading. Each benign tumour has the potential to become malignant, which is basically when they chew through the tough tissue around them and can start spreading to other parts of the body.
I'm pretty sure that's how it works, anyway. I kinda remember my lecturer in second year talking about it in those terms.
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The proper name for those kids is obviously "motherfuckers" or "cocksuckers" or something
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why all the hate man? why?
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Hey Storm, heard from UPenn yet?
I had an interview with an alumnus yesterday! They won't release admittance notices for another month and a half, though.
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why all the hate man? why?
Because this music is completely devpoid of any of the sincerity and honesty that makes for good music. LIFE IS NOT A BAD EDGAR ALLEN POE RIPOFF YOU STU[PID KIDS!!
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why all the hate man? why?
Because this music is completely devpoid of any of the sincerity and honesty that makes for good music. LIFE IS NOT A BAD EDGAR ALLEN POE RIPOFF YOU STU[PID KIDS!!
Those kids probably wouldn't even know who Edgar Allan Poe was.
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Oh, they do.
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they know who he was and probably want to be him. what we should tell them is, "YOU ARE NOT COOL ENOUGH TO BE POE. SO QUIT YER WHINING!"
see, i like edgar's work (a lot), but dude was crazy.
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why all the hate man? why?
Because this music is completely devpoid of any of the sincerity and honesty that makes for good music. LIFE IS NOT A BAD EDGAR ALLEN POE RIPOFF YOU STU[PID KIDS!!
I think you'd need to be sincere and honest if you were writing these kinds of lyrics.
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You'd think so, wouldn't you.
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whatever, i'm not very differential. if it's music, and i like it, then i like it. i don't really question the honesty of the artisist, as long as i like it or can relate to it in any way, or if it gets me moving.
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The only thing more played out than modern emo is emo bashing.
Seriously, who cares. Maybe it's because I'm older and I don't hang out in malls or at all-ages shows or watch MTV or whatever, but in my daily life and at the shows I go to, these kids don't even enter my sphere of being. Just let them do their thing, eventually they will grow out of bad music and become accountants or junkies or whatever.
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Didn't most of the emo kids from five and six years ago just become obnoxious indie rocker kids about two or three years ago? I'm pretty sure I remember literally seeing that happen in the coure of about three weeks. I can't wait til everyone get's bored of indie rock and mocks the indie rockers of tomorrow.
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The only thing more played out than modern emo is emo bashing.
Seriously, who cares. Maybe it's because I'm older and I don't hang out in malls or at all-ages shows or watch MTV or whatever, but in my daily life and at the shows I go to, these kids don't even enter my sphere of being. Just let them do their thing, eventually they will grow out of bad music and become accountants or junkies or whatever.
MTV sucks dude.
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Hey Storm, heard from UPenn yet?
I had an interview with an alumnus yesterday! They won't release admittance notices for another month and a half, though.
Man I keep meaning to try to set up a phone interview or something with Swarthmore, but well, I keep forgetting. Fuck man. Maybe I'll get into Reed. It would be nice to go there.
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