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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Scrambled Egg Machine on 18 Sep 2007, 16:01
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I used the search function, but it was too old to revive. So, what do you guys listen to when you need rage music?
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Black Flag
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Now paging KharBevNor to the black courtesy phone
I listen to Offspring -- Smash. Because when I was an angsty teen lo those 12 years ago, I listened to Offspring -- Smash.
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Cyndi Lauper.
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Black Flag
Correct. But it can depend on the particular rage I'm feeling as to what other things I go for (Black Flag on the other hand are always appropriate). For example:
General disgust at humanity:
Chorea
Bolz'n
Das Oath
Xasthur
Charles Bronson
Man Is The Bastard
Anger in a more emo form:
Stalingrad
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Saetia
Mohinder
Drowningman
Anomie
Getting my intellectual rage on:
Orchid
Creation Is Crucifixion
Stand
Submission Hold
Ed Gein
Discordance Axis
Circle Takes The Square
Fuck, I just want to headbutt THE MAN:
Kill The Man Who Questions
Robot Has Werewolf Hand
Dropdead
Los Crudos
I Shot Cyrus
Public Enemy
Dead Prez
Ebola
Limp Wrist
I am mightily pissed, but I want to party too:
Teen Cthulhu
The Great Redneck Hope
Scholastic Deth
D.S.-13
E.T.A. (Epileptic Terror Attack)
Smackdown
Ultimate Warriors
The Dicks
I just want to kill everybody. Now. Right now:
Urko
The Swarm
Voorhees
Negative Approach
I have a lot of hate. Minor Threat are far too posi to really cut it, they're for chirpy summer days and kicking back with some friends.
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My fav goto song when I am angry is probably Battle 2 from Heroes of might and Magic 2. Mostly because the song is dreary and angry at the same time. But any fast paced hard beat song will do for me.
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I listen to Liquid Tension Experiment. I know it's not really all hardcore or RWAR or anything, but it seems to work for me when I'm angry. Also, it's great driving music.
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Definitely Big Black.
Either that, or some of Smashing Pumpkins' more intense tracks (X.Y.U., Silverfuck, Zero, etc.).
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That's them! My favourite title was always 'If God Loves A Winner He's Going To Want To Fuck Me In A Minute (Born To Break Even)'. Unfortunately, they are responsible for a lot of the most dire aspects of heavy music these days. Still, good stuff.
And I can't believe I left off Big Black, Rapeman and Shellac. Albini has so much disgust, wonderful stuff.
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Ministry's usually fun. Usually.
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Ministry is pretty much godawful
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rape music
This is all I can see when I read this thread
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Masonna
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Converge, Breather Resist and Nasum... Nothing else is chaotic enough nor rage'y enough.
Black Flag always seems much too mellow ;)
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Future Of The Left
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You know it's good because he broke out the SIZE tag !
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Converge, Breather Resist and Nasum... Nothing else is chaotic enough nor rage'y enough.
Converge is an excellent choice, and so is Breather Resist. How about a little Crowpath too though? They can hold their own with BR. Or Narcosis, thinking about it they can easily outdo either of them in the chaos and rage stakes.
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Converge is the best music for this, they have songs for pretty much every type of angry emotion.
Beyond that, black metal is sometimes just what i need. Impaled Nazarene for celebratory anger, Burzum for depressed anger and Behemoth for when you just want to murder someone.
Some metalcore is also fine for this, I like (some) Poison the Well when I'm feeling angsty and The Red Chord is great when everything is pissing you off at the same time.
Grindcore sounds perfect on paper, but I can't really get my angry on listening to it, it always feels a little too silly.
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You know it's good because he broke out the SIZE tag !
That and it's fucking FUTURE OF THE LEFT.
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If you're really angry, all you need to do is jack off and then you will feel okay guaranteed
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Fucking Biomechanical.
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If you like shitty hardcore I can only recommend a new Victory Records release that my friend dubbed "tard-core" , The Warriors "Genuine Sense of Outrage" It even has "rage" in the title. But if you want somthing that's actually worth listening to check out Propagandhi's "Today's Empire, Tommorrow's Ashes" (my favorite Propagandhi album)
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I think someone said The Jesus Lizard
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Anyone been able to calm a rage with other music? I have not found music that calms me when angry. Thankfully I only rarely get very angry. Granted, I want to listen to a song that will perpetuate my mood, but anyone do it to change your mood?
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My default band for rage is
Slipknot
but if I need to release some tension and pent up aggression I tend to go more for the industrial rock like static-x, or even your basic metal like Mudvayne, children of bodom, and disturbed.
seething rage is NIN, Puscifer, and She Wants Revenge to name a few
About 6 years go it use to be SOAD and Linkin Park, but not so much anymore.
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Anyone been able to calm a rage with other music? I have not found music that calms me when angry. Thankfully I only rarely get very angry. Granted, I want to listen to a song that will perpetuate my mood, but anyone do it to change your mood?
Positive hardcore. It's fast and aggressive enough to match the mood but upbeat enough to make you go and bake a cake instead and dance around while you're doing it.
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Something by KMFDM, usually
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Declare Indepence- Bjork
She starts screaming in the end... It gets me so pumped for team fortress
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Man, what is happening to this forum as of late.
I'm starting to think there should be some kind of compulsory quiz before you are allowed to join.
more khar less anyone else?
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Yeah, where did he go?
Someone in this thread mentioned Slipknot and Linkin Park for shit's sake.
Do more drugs, it'll cheer you right up.
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Victory Records is owned by a madman (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,17188.0.html).
Indeed, so if anybody wants to hear the warriors new album (but I must mention it is retarded) you should get it for free but, only for shits and giggles not for any real musical appreciation.
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Yeah, where did he go?
Someone in this thread mentioned Slipknot and Linkin Park for shit's sake.
Slipknot had a good drum sound, the three percussionists sounded great. They never did much with it, granted, but it was still good. Duality was a decent pop song too, definitely one of the better number one singles of recent years. That and Toxic by Britney Spears were thoroughly catchy, they always remind me of each other.
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glassjaw...
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You never know with Slipknot. A friend of mine who's a huge black and death metal fan and usually plays in tech grind bands absolutely loves them. I can't quite see the appeal myself beyond the catchy ones which are kind of fun (and that drum sound), but there you go.
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(http://metalenrage.canalblog.com/images/marduk_panzer_division_marduk_.jpg)
(http://thesentinelsoftime.club.fr/Images/Count%20Nosferatu%20Kommando%20(The)%20Ultraviolence.jpg)
(http://www.metallibrary.ru/bands/discographies/images/impaled_nazarene/pictures/94_suomi_finland_perkele.jpg)
(http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/hhouse/archives/Cattle_To%20Serve%20Man.jpg)
(http://www.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/doci/bla/black_metal_again-1142969781_i_8464_full.jpg)
(http://www.christhuntproductions.de/osc/catalog/images/thelema.jpg)
(http://www.metallibrary.ru/bands/discographies/images/burzum/pictures/92_burzum.jpg)
(http://www.auralmusic.com/public/catalog/images/uploads/15.jpg)
(http://www.horns-up.com/files/Berzerker___Dissimulate.jpg)
(http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JOFA.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
...etc. I'm limited for time atm, talk more later.
I only defend Slipknot if we are discussing the first album (no, the ACTUAL first album) or if I'm trying to piss someone off.
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(http://www.horns-up.com/files/Berzerker___Dissimulate.jpg)
I only defend Slipknot if we are discussing the first album (no, the ACTUAL first album) or if I'm trying to piss someone off.
really disimulate...despite the human drumming i thought this was there weakest effort although admitadly i havn't ehard the one released this year personally i would go for principles and practices followed by world of lies and S/T
and by first album of slipknot i assume you mean mate feed kill repeat?
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"Deaf To Our Prayers" by Heaven Shall Burn
"Deathmachine" by Myrkskog
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I only own Principles and Practices and Dissimulate, and of the two I'd say Dissimulate best fulfills the threads aims.
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it is SO good to have you back.
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Now we just need the Kitty Ist Krieg avatar.
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kitty krieger than harry potter.
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Yeah, I may put the katzen ist krieg avatar back, since the time of Harry Potter has been and gone.
Or I may replace it with a new av. I was playing about recently making avatars from these (http://www.truthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm) comics, might choose one of those (Possibly one I made from the comic about drugs and alcohol, which just has a kid in the foreground smoking a joint whilst someone in the crowd behind him exclaims "HEY! HE'S COOL!", or the classic "You took your best shot Satan! NOW THE YOUTH OF AMERICA ARE FIGHTING BACK!") and post up the rest of my efforts, start a trend or something.
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(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/chris_parasyte/thankful_b00007guio.jpg)
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The Locust
The Locust
The Locust
The Locust
The Locust
The Locust
The Locust
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Amen to the Locust. I needs me some more Locust. They were supposed to be touring here this year some time but I haven't heard anything in ages.
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(http://www.metallized.it/recensioni/nasum_shift.jpg)
(http://www.displeasedrecords.com/images/124-300.jpg)
(http://www.auralmusic.com/public/catalog/images/uploads/MOSH906CDephel.jpg)
(http://www.metallized.it/public/recensioni/Martyr-FeedingtheAbscess.jpg)
(http://www.auxportesdumetal.com/reviews/IonDissonance/minustheherd.jpg)
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Yeah, I may put the katzen ist krieg avatar back, since the time of Harry Potter has been and gone.
(http://www.tc-kirchardt.de/darken/jochen/gartenarbeit_ist_krieg2.jpg)
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(http://www.tc-kirchardt.de/darken/jochen/duschen_ist_krieg.jpg)
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(http://www.gothic-chat.de/data/images/gallery/15/250/3886.jpg)
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Merzbow
Anyone?
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Merzbow is music for every occasion.
Especially birthday parties.
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Yeah, where did he go?
Someone in this thread mentioned Slipknot and Linkin Park for shit's sake.
C'mon, Slipknot is all about rage...
and if you read it all, you'd know I said about 6 years ago I listened to Linkin Park.... I was 12 six years ago, who did YOU listen to 6 years ago??
Don't dog my choices.
Are you gunna do anything about the so-called forum problem, or bitch and moan? Cuz I find that more gets done in general when people bitch and moan by themselves. in the dark. where no one can hear them.
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I don't think he was disputing that they have a certain preoccupation with rage, more that they were any good. Although they do have their moments (although for those to work I always find you have to consider them in the context of top 40 pop music rather than heavy music in general) is their 'old men do teenage angst poetry' lyrical content fit to stand alongside other bands that have been mentioned in this thread like Black Flag, Shellac, Merzbow and Ion Dissonance?
On the other hand, they're at least better than Burzum. Really, what the hell is the appeal of bad crust recorded through a sock by a dumb Nazi?
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Meshuggah, they are pretty rageful, especally on humanity/existence
E.G since I'm listening to it:
The Mouth Licking What You've Bled
I'm The Shallow, The Superficial.
I'm The Common Man.
Faithless, Narrow Minded, Indifferent, Impassive.
A Sycophantic Leech.
Tantamount To Disintegrity.
I'm The Vulture Feeding On Malignancy.
I'm The Sin,
The Lecherous Sneering At Prostration.
I Wallow In Disease.
I Rejoice At Degradation.
I Yawn At Misery.
Spit At Others Happiness.
An Advocate Of Manipulation.
I Embrace The Sickening.
I'm The Lost.
I'm Average.
I'm Common.
I'm Infection.
I'm Human.
I'm Common
A Worm Thriving In Seas Of Disgust.
I'm Common.
The Mouth Licking What You've Bled.
I'm Common
I'm The Pampered Degenerate.
I Indulge My Inclinations
The Only Words To My Attention Are Those That I My Self Create
Disorder.
Chaos.
I Debar All Order,
Repudiate All Purity.
Infatuated By Contentment.
I Laugh At Lies.
Come Behold The Sickness In My Common Human Eyes.
I'm The Greed.
The Cynic.
I'm The Indifferent Gaze.
Mendacity, Betrayal;
This Is Not A Phase
Ebullient With Human Filth, Here I Am.
Here I Stay.
Flourishing In Our Disgrace.
Blessed Be The Human Way.
Maybe not, whatever, perhaps dead kennedys?
Black Flag, I think they have been mentioned like, 12 times though
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Arsis
At the gates
Parkway dr.
Ion dissonance
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Really, what the hell is the appeal of bad crust recorded through a sock by a dumb Nazi?
I have no idea what the appeal of that would be. Fortunately, that is not an accurate description of Burzum. Maybe if Varg's entire musical output had been the song 'War'. Even then, that song is pretty bad-ass.
THIS IS....WAR! UGH!
But I mean, seriously, Slipknot ain't that good. I won't dog on them too much, because there are certain aspects of their operation I respect: I like how Corey Taylor and Joey Jordison didn't kick all their friends out the band, despite the fact that at least three or four of them are completely superfluous and they must seriously dilute the performance royalty checks. The fact that they are some friends who like making music is great. Jordison at least is actually a pretty talented multi-instrumentalist. The problem, really, is that their music is monotonous, purile and utterly humourless.
The first suggestion I always make to any Slipknot fan is Acid Bath. Apart from the fact that Slipknot almost certainly ripped them off, they have a few other major advantages, including interesting music, much better lyrics (though still mainly about rage and angst and whatnot) and a much better spread of talent (as in, they're all good musicians, not just one of them). They also split up because of a tragic death, so doubleplus rockpoints.
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Acid Bath are also great fun. Just saying.
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Converge and Slayer - for different types of rage, obviously. Occasionally I'll throw on Dillinger Escape Plan's Calculating Infinity, but that's mostly for nostalgic reasons.
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I have no idea what the appeal of that would be. Fortunately, that is not an accurate description of Burzum. Maybe if Varg's entire musical output had been the song 'War'. Even then, that song is pretty bad-ass.
THIS IS....WAR! UGH!
Okay, you got me. Bad crust with some tiresome metal thrown in, and a guy who sounds like he just stubbed his toe wailing over the top.
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That...still doesn't actually describe Burzum.
Sorry sir, but your opinions and judgments are wrong!
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I would take your input on board, but you described War as "bad-ass" instead of correctly as "even more laughable than the rest of that record (which is saying something)".
A friend of mine once got in deep shit for wearing a Burzum patch on his bag twice in one week. More proof that Burzum will bring nothing good to your life.
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I wore a Burzum shirt to art college yesterday. On the front it has this:
(http://www.burzum.com/burzum/library/flyer/images/flyer5.jpg)
and on the back this:
(http://www.burzum.com/burzum/library/flyer/images/flyer8.jpg)
It's unofficial, of course. I wouldn't actually support Varg Vikernes, as the man is undoubtedly an utter shit. He is, however, a shit who makes very good (and very influential, as an aside) music*. The first album's fun (and a lot better, incidentally, on vinyl), but there's a lot better material on Det Som Engang Var and Filosofem, and I also rather like the prison albums (the last two synth only works). I like Vargs almost deliberately contrarian approach to producing black metal, using all the wrong equipment, shockingly basic guitar work (on the first couple of albums anyway), and completely unstructured vocals. I really admire the fact that whereas most black metal vocalists use a more practiced and technical style of vocals (the dreaded cookie monster), Varg basically just screams till he wretches. He's also an obvious influence on pretty much all my other favourite BM bands: Horna, Judas Iscariot, Vlad Tepes, Wyrd, Xasthur, Abyssic Hate, Nortt, etc. Also, it doesn't sound anything like crust, except in terms of quality and simplicity.
But again, of course, I must re-iterate that he really is a cunt.
*Hell, Burzum is pretty much the reason I started to make music.
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A huge, reprehensible prick.
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That shirt's actually pretty great.
I must admit, the first album's the only one I'm really familiar with and on mp3 not vinyl. I've heard Filosofem and some mp3s of the synth stuff but I lost them all when my old computer died, and I don't remember too much except not thinking they were much cop. His vocals irk me not because they aren't technical in their approach but because they sound too much like someone whinging. When vocals are going over the top like that I want to hear rage, panic, imminent violence maybe. To me, Varh really does sound like he's stubbed his toe or watched his cat get run over. And it really does sound for the most part like sub-par crust punk to me. Also, the recording robs it of a lot of impact. I've never been one to expect perfect production and I love a lot of records with a lo-fi sound but with Burzum it just makes it sound weedy and a bit naff really.
Mind you, much like The Rolling Stones I can't deny he's influenced a lot of music I really like. I enjoy a bit of Xasthur myself, hell, I liked that record you posted up here a while back. So I guess the existence is of Burzum is a good thing (well, aside from all the stabbing).
Don't worry about having to call him a cunt while you're defending his music. I read TS Eliot and he's easily as big a bastard as Varg.