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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Jackie Blue on 03 Dec 2007, 16:20
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REM - Monster
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Thriller, duh.
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That'd probably be Nevermind - Nirvana
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(Did we really need this thread?)
I find it more interesting than the penis-measuring contest in the "rarest album" thread.
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Thriller, duh.
Seriously.
If you actually have an answer other than this you've fucked up completely somewhere.
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Man, I bought Thriller on cassette when it came out! It was actually the first album I bought in my life.
The second was the Ghostbusters soundtrack.
Oh fuck, now I'm turning THIS thread into a penis-measuring contest.
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I own REM ~ Monster as well but I have to wonder if my Fall Out Boy CDs are ... more least rare? I have no idea what I am trying to say here other than admitting that I like Fall Out Boy.
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I think that more copies of Monster were printed than of any Fall Out Boy CD.
My main point/sort-of joke though was in reference to the fact that Monster is the number one "most sold to used CD stores" CD of all time.
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I think I actually bought Monster used...
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So many people have sold their copies of Monster that, if you look it up on Amazon, you get this:
645 used & new available from $0.01.
That's right. It's a CD so hard to get rid of that they're willing to sell it for postage and handling costs.
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Wolfmother - Wolfmother
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Mine would either be
Nirvana-Nirvana
Bob Dylan's Greatest hits
or
The killers- Hot Fuss
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I forgot that i also own Sam's Town - The Killers and X&Y- Coldplay.
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I'd say Rush's 2112 probably...I only actually own like 20-30-ish CDs, most of the more common ones I just borrowed from my Dad or friends.
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Probably The Joshua Tree.
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I own 200 copies of Thriller.
Can the other thread die now?
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My brother owns a copy of The Eagles' Greatest Hits, I think that is the only thing that has sold more than Thriller?
Thriller is totally badass though.
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Incubus- A Crow Left of the Murder
eeegh
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Maybe Weezer's blue album? Or...probably any Beatles album.
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In terms of Beatles i have Please Please Me and Help.
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My brother owns a copy of The Eagles' Greatest Hits, I think that is the only thing that has sold more than Thriller?
Apparently it's two million copies ahead of Thriller in America.
Another reason to disband the United States. The great experiment is over, folks. It clearly failed.
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I blame blatant/latent racism the people who brought over 2 million copies of The Eagle's Greatest hits collectively are bigots.
EDIT: My mum owns a copy of Thriller on vinyl.
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I'm in the Beatles boat. I'm going to have to go with my copy of "Abbey Road" I guess. Although any of them would work. "Blood on the Tracks" is also up there.
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This would easily be Metallica's Black Album.
I do not own a copy of Thriller and neither does anyone I know 8-)
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Everybody that you know has a shit taste.
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Probably Pink Floyd's The Wall or some such. Or some Stones record... I have Beggars Banquet and Exile on LP.
I'd love to wallpaper an entire bathroom with covers from the Thriller LP... that'd be so rad.
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i refuse to let michael jackson watch me poo
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That'd freak a lot of people at my old primary school.
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Maybe just one, directly across from the toilet? C'mon... it'd be a conversation stimulator!
Hell, put one inside the medicine cabinet. You'd always know which of your guests was poking around in there when they went in to use the can.
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(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc227/f1abberghast/thriller2.jpg)
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I actually own Thriller on vinyl.
hardcore.
I find it hard to believe that the beatles haven't sold more
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Thriller: over 100million copies sold worldwide apparantly.
Bad : over 40 million
Jagged Little Pill, Sergeant Peppers, Brothers In Arms, LedZep IV, Dangerous, The Wall : over 30 million.
I'm gonna stop here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide
Also. HI IM NEW! :angel:
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Fugazi - Repeater is actually the only album I own.
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Dookie.
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I don't technically, legally own Thriller. Does it still count?
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Why are all you guys such tools?
Looking at lists, probably the least rare thing I own is Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl.
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I'm pretty sure I have Thriller somewhere, or maybe I just have the 45 collection. If it's something else, I guess either Bad or, hmmm, The Beatles?
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I think I actually bought Monster used...
I think I read somewhere that it's the one album all record stores seem to have like 10 used copies of because nobody liked it when it came out. I got mine used for something like $2 because they had so many...
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Dookie.
And International Superhits.
Weezer's Blue Album.
License to Ill, maybe?
There's also that "1" album that they put out with all of the Beatle's number one hits on it. The red one? Yeah.
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The Beatles 1 (got it when I was like 10 for no apparent reason)
ABBA Gold
Led Zeppelin IV
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The album I own that is not rare in any way shape or form...
You guys will kill me for this, but Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory. Or possibly one of the Muse albums which aren't technically mine but I still have them in my CD collection.
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The album I own that is not rare in any way shape or form...
You guys will kill me for this, but Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory. Or possibly one of the Muse albums which aren't technically mine but I still have them in my CD collection.
25+million worldwide. I have a copy someone burned for me. :angel:
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britney spears - ...baby one more time
it's pretty bitching
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I haven't even heard Thriller.
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Thriller. It keeps the party going strong. Nothing like a room full of people chanting "Mama-se, mama-sa, ma-ma-koo-sa"
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Jagged Little Pill has sold as many copies as Sgt. Pepper's?
Holy mother of God, what hapenned, did Alanis give away free blowjobs with every copy?
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Dark Side of the Moon for sure.
Probably Thriller, but it's not on the shelf. So I lost it.
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Justin Timberlake's "Futuresex/Lovesound", i guess.a
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide
I do not own a single album off of this list. Is that good or bad?
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I think I read somewhere that it's the one album all record stores seem to have like 10 used copies of because nobody liked it when it came out. I got mine used for something like $2 because they had so many...
Maybe you read it earlier in the thread when I mentioned this. Twice.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide
I do not own a single album off of this list. Is that good or bad?
Neither really. Popularity has nothing to do with quality. Though if you don't have Dark Side of the Moon in some form, then you're missing out, it's probably the only perfect album ever recorded (except for Abbey Road). Sgt. Pepper's is a good album too, though it always bugs me that it's the album that gets recognition out of everything the Beatles made, when several of their albums were much better. The rest of the albums on that list (the 30 Million + one) range from shit to only slightly above average, though, not counting compilations (which don't count).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide
I do not own a single album off of this list. Is that good or bad?
Some bad.
LOTS of good.
It's all subjective anyway.
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I do not own a single album off of this list. Is that good or bad?
R.E.M. - Automatic for the People
At a quick glance, there are maybe a dozen or so "really great" albums on those lists, and maybe a dozen more "pretty good, should be listened to for historical context at least".
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The one on the list that you most need is Abbey Road. Parallel Lines, and Dark Side of the Moon you should also own.
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I don't have Thriller. I DO have Beatles One though which is very ubiquitous.
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Popularity has nothing to do with quality.
Not really true. Something which is "good" for what it's doing will always be popular. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is probably the "most popular" post-rock band, and they are very high quality for what they're doing.
Same with shitty pop music. Sure, you may not like it, but for fans of shitty pop, clearly albums which sell so many copies are doing something for somebody.
In conclusion:
Don't be a hipster snob.
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Albums to have sold at least 15 million copies
Kenny G. - Breathless
Heh. Eheh. Bwahahahaahahahaha. So I didn't actually know Kenny G. was that popular. What I did know is that Brain of Pinky and the Brain once tried to "jam the frequencies of every radio station with nothing but Kenny G., Yanni, and the soulful spasms of John Tesh" and use it to "[expose the populace] to these flaccid tonalities [to] soften the cerebral tissue rendering the entire population our personal slaves!"
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Popularity has nothing to do with quality.
Not really true. Something which is "good" for what it's doing will always be popular. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is probably the "most popular" post-rock band, and they are very high quality for what they're doing.
Same with shitty pop music. Sure, you may not like it, but for fans of shitty pop, clearly albums which sell so many copies are doing something for somebody.
In conclusion:
Don't be a hipster snob.
Are you suggesting that Godspeed You! Black Emperor is a popular band? Because while they may be well-known among the scene, their lack of mainstream recognition prohibits them from being called "popular."
I'm not saying that popular = shit or that unknown = Jesuslike, I'm just saying that there are great bands both popular and unpopular and shitty bands both popular and unpopular. To pretend that all popular bands are terrible would imply that popularity is inversely related to quality, whereas I suggest there is no correlation. But no philosophonomics for now.
Automatic for the People was on that list? Damn, must've missed it. Also one of my favorites.
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Jagged Little Pill has sold as many copies as Sgt. Pepper's?
Holy mother of God, what hapenned, did Alanis give away free blowjobs with every copy?
Not really much of an incentive, in my opinion.
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Are you suggesting that Godspeed You! Black Emperor is a popular band?
Yes, I am. Everyone who likes post-rock likes them, or has heard them, and even a whole lot of people who barely know what post-rock is have heard them. They're as popular as a band of their genre could possibly be.
Because while they may be well-known among the scene, their lack of mainstream recognition prohibits them from being called "popular."
But that's the point, here. The "pop music scene" is bigger than the "post-rock scene" and therefore pop music sells more records. It doesn't mean that what you or I think of as "bad" popular music is "bad" because people don't buy albums unless they enjoy them, and if 50 million people enjoy an album, it can not logically be "bad" because those 50 million people think it's "good" and musical taste is not a science in which one can "prove" a band is good or not.
I'm not saying that popular = shit or that unknown = Jesuslike, I'm just saying that there are great bands both popular and unpopular and shitty bands both popular and unpopular.
And I'm just saying that if a band sells 50 million albums, they are not "shitty" in any kind of objective way. Do I like The Eagles? No. But clearly they are doing something right for a lot of people. Would most people in America like Neutral Milk Hotel? Incredibly doubtful. Millions of people would listen to Neutral Milk Hotel and say "Wow, that is one shitty band."
I would not presume to tell them I'm right and they're wrong because my taste is somehow better than theirs.
Some people claim to genuinely enjoy the taste of brocolli. I can't fathom this, but I would not use it as evidence that they have defective or inferior taste buds.
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Actually, I've played Neutral Milk Hotel for a number of poster Hot Topic kids and they all loved it. It's just a matter of exposure in many cases.
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Sure, that figures into it. But I didn't say "play Neutral Milk Hotel for poster Hot Topic kids". Try playing Neutral Milk hotel to the millions of mainstream rap fans. Try playing them fans of 80s metal. Try playing them for 12 year old girls who listen to boy bands.
Basically what I'm saying is that "poster Hot Topic kid" isn't actually that far away in the Taste Spectrum from "poster indie kid".
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Touche.
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Basically what I'm saying is that "poster Hot Topic kid" isn't actually that far away in the Taste Spectrum from "poster indie kid".
I think the first often leads into the second.
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At home there are copies of Saturday Night Fever and Born in the USA
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Jagged Little Pill has sold as many copies as Sgt. Pepper's?
Holy mother of God, what hapenned, did Alanis give away free blowjobs with every copy?
Not really much of an incentive, in my opinion.
HEY Don't diss Alanis ;-) Best selling album of the nineties after Shania Twain! (lol)
It had at least 4 or 5 hugely popular singles.
It's a pretty darn good pop album.
Shania Twain selling even more is a bit of a puzzle to me though. Best selling album of the nineties while released in 97?
Although... I just read something >_<
n the United States, male disk jockeys were able to obtain a customized copy of the song "That Don't Impress Me Much". The customized copy would replace the line "..okay, so you're Brad Pitt, that don't impress me much" with "..okay, so you're XXXX that don't impress me much" where XXXX is the disk jockey's name sung by Shania Twain. Often, radio stations played the customized and single versions in rotation
BRILLIANT!
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Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
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if 50 million people enjoy an album, it can not logically be "bad" because those 50 million people think it's "good" and musical taste is not a science in which one can "prove" a band is good or not.
Behold the End of Subjectivity (http://www.matadorrecords.com/escandalo/6/subjectivity.html)!
I can't accept a system that gives Aerosmith a higher score than Bikini Kill.
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I don't think I own any albums off of that best-selling list. But then again I own very few albums. I'd have to say the least rare album I own is Three Days Grace - Three Days Grace.
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I can't accept a system that gives Aerosmith a higher score than Bikini Kill.
And gives Jane's Addiction a lower score than Van Hagar.
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RHCP- Californication
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Fleetwood Mac - Rumours.
Or, that didn't sell much out of the US, did it?
Then Thriller. Though it's hard for me to listen to it anymore because I have trouble separating the art from the artist in that case.
Poor Jacko. The sad thing is, that's probably how Suri Cruise and Britney Spears' baby will turn out, with the media following them around everywhere for their whole childhoods.
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I have a number of issues with that system, but I am amused that Hole is indirectly equated with "textile workers union, clutch of junkies on the subway, Congress" in terms of musical correctness.
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Since I don't own Thriller, I guess it's Dark Side of the Moon.
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Backstreet Boys- Millennium. I was a child during the 90s. And it was awesome.
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Dookie by Green Day.
I should be ashamed, but I'm not. They used to be great.
WAIT, I take that back. Stadium Arcadium. Californication would be more generic, but I don't own it.
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Backstreet Boys- Millennium. I was a child during the 90s. And it was frightening.
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Madonna - Ray of Light
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Dark Side of the Moon and Bat Out of Hell
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if 50 million people enjoy an album, it can not logically be "bad"
This is a logical fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html) right here folks. Learn to recognize it.
Mostly what I disagree with in that post is the assertion that The Eagles aren't a heap of shit.
HOWEVER it is kind of rude to tell that to the face of an Eagles fan or act like you're better than someone just cause they like The Eagles. If you want to put that fifty million statistic to good use, then the likelihood is that a good chunk of those fifty million people who bought that greatest hits compilation aren't douchebags and it'd be wrong to automatically treat them as such.
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Dookie by Green Day.
I should be ashamed, but I'm not. They used to be great.
You! Sendspace thread NOW. Download the Foxboro Hot Tubs EP. They're good again.
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if 50 million people enjoy an album, it can not logically be "bad"
This is a logical fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html) right here folks. Learn to recognize it.
You can't apply that kind of logical fallacy rule to the completely illogical realm of artistic taste.
If 50 million people believe that 1 + 1 =3, they can still be wrong because there are rules about how math works.
If 50 million people genuinely enjoy an Eagles album, they can not be wrong because there are no provable rules about what constitutes "good" or "bad" music.
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No, you totally can. The fallacy is, "X people believe Y is true. Therefore, Y is true." Write it now as, "Fifty million people believe The Eagles don't suck. Therefore, The Eagles don't suck." See?
For The Eagles to not suck, you'd have to have a more compelling argument than "a lot of people like them," because that actually has nothing to do with whether they suck or not. That's the basis of the fallacy.
If you want, I can keep on applying this to different things which you can't really be truly objective about. For example, religion!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/60/Worldwide_percentage_of_Adherents_by_Religion.png/800px-Worldwide_percentage_of_Adherents_by_Religion.png)
Christianity is the largest religion in the world. Therefore, the Christian God and Jesus must totally exist, right? I mean, two billion people believe in them!
I'm personally a Christian but if you try to tell me I'm right because of how many people agree with me I'll probably gently correct you.
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You're talking Moon Language, man.
I'm not saying that The Eagles are good because 50 million people like them. I'm saying that there is no way to say whether they are good or not at all, but if they make 50 million people happy, they are doing something right. To claim otherwise is to be a hipster snob.
The Christian thing is a great example of why you're shooting yourself in the foot. Your implication is that what I'm saying equates to "If 50 million people believe God exists, then he must". That's not what I'm saying. I'm not speaking in terms of objective reality. I don't believe in objective reality, and I certainly don't believe in it for the purposes of art. What I'm saying would be more akin to "If 50 million people believe God exists, that belief must be doing something for them".
No matter how much I think, believe or feel that The Eagles suck, I can't say that they actually do because it's a matter of opinion and clearly a lot of people think The Eagles don't suck and I have no basis for, or inclination toward, telling them that they're "wrong".
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So let me see if I have this straight - the crux of your argument is that fifty million people own The Eagles' greatest hits because they like them?
No matter how much I think, believe or feel that The Eagles suck, I can't say that they actually do because it's a matter of opinion and clearly a lot of people think The Eagles don't suck and I have no basis for, or inclination toward, telling them that they're "wrong".
I think you're muddling the hell out of what you're saying by including what I just emphasized there. Prior to the bold your argument is fairly straightforward but then you seem to contradict yourself. The part in bold is what I'm arguing against - just cause a bunch of people don't think they suck doesn't mean they don't suck.
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So let me see if I have this straight - the crux of your argument is that fifty million people own The Eagles' greatest hits because they like them?
Pretty much!
The part in bold is what I'm arguing against - just cause a bunch of people don't think they suck doesn't mean they don't suck.
You're not making any sense. Who are you to say they suck? 50 million people say they don't suck, and you say they do. What logic are you using to argue that you're right and they're wrong?
Are you seriously saying that you can tell someone they're wrong about what they like? :?
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Why the hell are you guys arguing about this? There is no such thing as objectivity when it comes to musical taste, so when you say something "sucks" you are only talking about your own opinion. DUH.
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Thriller- Michael Jackson
Rumours- Fleetwood Mac
I got them on vinyl...they were probably 50 cents or something.
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you guys are thinking way too much about The Eagles.
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Shh! Don Henley sends me ten bucks every time I mention them without saying they suck. Don't fuck it up for me, dude.
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I have Thriller on vinyl.
ditto.
that and Bad together in perfect condition for $5 on ebay, ship included. wewt. *pats self on back*
(and none of you motherfuckers better say anything to take that pat pat pat away from me!)
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So let me see if I have this straight - the crux of your argument is that fifty million people own The Eagles' greatest hits because they like them?
Pretty much!
I would argue that the fact that the Eagles best-selling release is a best-of is not a particular endorsement. In fact, when you correlate the success of this release and the success of Hotel California, which has sold about 27 million copies, what I think we are actually seeing is that a hell of a lot of people listen to classic rock radio. With the best-of, I think it's likely to be a sort of self-sustaining effect. It's popularity ensures that it is widely available, and in turn it is probably bought a lot pretty much for specific songs as opposed to the albums they originally came from. At the end of the day, it's not so much that fifty million people like the Eagles, it's that up to* fifty million people thought 'Tequila Sunrise' was a good song.
*Maybe much less than fifty million. Remember that both the best-of and Hotel California were originally released on vinyl. Similiarly with almost all the best-selling albums: Thriller, Back in Black, Dark Side of the Moon, and so forth. You've got to account for re-buying on CD. Trying to calculate ownership statistics for albums released before the advent of CDs is impossible as, theoretically, individual purchases and ownership could differ by up to 50%. Of course, replacement copies and so forth must always be taken into account...what this means, at the end of the day, is that more people are likely to own The Bodyguard Soundtrack or Millenium by the Backstreet boys than any given release by The Eagles, The Beatles, Pink Floyd etc.
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I don't own anything by the Eagles but a friend of mine swears they're the best thing since big tits.
But he also says playing fast isn't music so I am trying to take it with a grain of salt.
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Green Day's Dookie and Enema Of The State by Blink-182.
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I really do love how this parody thread has far outlived the thread it was mocking
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My dad has every single Beatles Album on vinyl. Someday, THEY WILL BE MINE!
As for me, it's probably Appetite for Destruction by Guns N' Roses, or Demon Days by Gorillaz.
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I have every single beatles album on vinyl
maybe me and your dad should hook uop
what i'm saying is i wanna fuck your dad
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I don't own anything by the Eagles but a friend of mine swears they're the best thing since big tits.
But he also says playing fast isn't music so I am trying to take it with a grain of salt.
Also, it's the Eagles. ;_;
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I'm sure you do KharBevNor, I'm sure you do.
Unfortunately, you'll never know where to find me.
I've also got the Heart Greatest Hits, I'm pretty sure that's not rare.
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AC/DC- Back in Black
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Is it bad that I get Kenny G and Kevin G confused?
(Kevin G as in, all you sucka MCs aint got nothin on him)
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Bad? BAD?
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Probably Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express.
Round 2 of this question: is it goor or bad that it took me a good 10 seconds to remember whose album Thriller is?
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So, so bad.
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So, so (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Michael_jackson_bad_cd_cover_1987_cdda.jpg)