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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Jeff Newguy on 20 Feb 2008, 10:47
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have any of you guys heard of green day?
i think there pretty good do u?
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Go fuck yourself, alt account.
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I used to like green day. I still like to listen to one or two of their earlier tracks, and a couple off warning.
I don't like much of it anymore, but I could pick some favourite albums it would be the first album (the one which was 3 EPs), and insomniac.
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I still need to find a vinyl copy of 39/Smooth. I've got the other two.
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I still like Green Day. There's nothing wrong with Green Day, people - or at least no more than any other pop punk band, before anybody comes in and goes 'blah blah greenday r shit cuz dey r pop punk' or some other elitist bullshit no-one cares about - although i was disappointed by the very choreographed nature of their last tour.
I still think American Idiot is a hell of an album, but it's been overplayed - and in all honesty, I always thought that Nimrod was the better album. It doesn't have the widescreen scope, but I think it's the stronger album; better songs, better hooks, and a lot more varied. Plus Insomniac is very underrated, it's quite dark and nasty, and I like that.
And however's started this account really, really isn't funny.
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I saw them on the American Idiot tour, actually. They played for damn near two hours, and most of it was pre-Warning songs. A good time. They can still put on a hell of a show, dudes.
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Nimrod was my first green day album. I used to blast it out like every single day. Then I got international superhits, the rest and then american idiot.
I have to say I wasn't that impressed with american idiot. I dunno, I just don't listen to green day anymore..It's got nothing to do with elitism, I don't think- I listen to other bands with the same amount of mainstream-icity.
I guess it's just one of those bands I kinda grew out of, and can't really listen to anymore.
Anyways, I saw them at Milton Keynes, on the american idiot tour (I think), and they ruled. Apart from hard fi. I don't care what anyone says, green day are an awesome live band.
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Honestly Dookie and the two albums before that are not bad. After that, eh.
People are really not trying hard enough with these fake threads.
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bbq, for what it's worth, I wasn't accusing you of being elitist at all. I was referring more to the people on this forum who actually would sneer at Green Day, who the original post is referring to.
As for a good live band... well guys, I ask you.
At your gig, did he...
- Make 'King For A Day' last for about eight minutes, incredibly tediously, ditto for 'Hitchin' A Ride'?
- Spray the audience with a super-soaker?
- Get kids onstage to play in the band and give one of them a guitar?
- Wear a crown?
- Have a man in a rabbit costume come out and screw around before the gig?
- In a hideously ironic moment, say, 'whatever bastard is in power always stay true to yourself and be an individual'?
Yeah. All that happened at mine. And at all the ones I've asked anyone else about too.
The last tour wasn't a punk rock show. Sure, it was competent. But there was a time when Green Day were an out of control live band and each show was different and it was fun. Now it's a charade.
I look on, incredibly intrigued, at what they are going to come up with to follow that album and tour... their Final Cut to their Wall, if you will.
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Oh, joke accounts. Sometimes you make me laugh like a little girl.
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Hey, alt account - learn to spell and use proper grammar. No need to make youself look even more like a dumbass. And zerodrone is right - TRY HARDER.
On the topic of Green Day, I find their older stuff to still be quite fun. Even Warning is still a fun album. American Idiot is pretty blah, though, and seriously overplayed.
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I look on, incredibly intrigued, at what they are going to come up with to follow that album and tour... their Final Cut to their Wall, if you will.
The whole Foxboro Hot Tubs thing is pretty damn interesting.
Also, no shit it wasn't a punk show. My Chemical Romance opened.
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bbq, for what it's worth, I wasn't accusing you of being elitist at all. I was referring more to the people on this forum who actually would sneer at Green Day, who the original post is referring to.
As for a good live band... well guys, I ask you.
At your gig, did he...
- Make 'King For A Day' last for about eight minutes, incredibly tediously, ditto for 'Hitchin' A Ride'?
- Spray the audience with a super-soaker?
- Get kids onstage to play in the band and give one of them a guitar?
- Wear a crown?
- Have a man in a rabbit costume come out and screw around before the gig?
- In a hideously ironic moment, say, 'whatever bastard is in power always stay true to yourself and be an individual'?
Yeah. All that happened at mine. And at all the ones I've asked anyone else about too.
The last tour wasn't a punk rock show. Sure, it was competent. But there was a time when Green Day were an out of control live band and each show was different and it was fun. Now it's a charade.
I look on, incredibly intrigued, at what they are going to come up with to follow that album and tour... their Final Cut to their Wall, if you will.
Yep, all of that but he got a kid to spray the audience with a supersoaker, and he also masturbated onstage.
Don't worry, I didn't think you were accusing me of being elitist. And it would be Ok anyways, because I know I am slightly elitist.
MCR opened for you? We had hard fi, taking back sunday and jimmy eat world.
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We had New Found Glory. Their mix was hideous, but they are clearly very good at what they do, if you like that sort of thing.
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I can't really listen to new found glory due to the fact that the singer sounds too whiny. Really really really whiny.
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Personally, I think New Found Glory are extremely boring. Green Day's new stuff is pretty boring, too. I liked it better when they wrote songs about smoking pot and masturbation. Dookie is my favorite album.
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As for a good live band... well guys, I ask you.
At your gig, did he...
- Make 'King For A Day' last for about eight minutes, incredibly tediously, ditto for 'Hitchin' A Ride'?
- Spray the audience with a super-soaker?
- Get kids onstage to play in the band and give one of them a guitar?
- Wear a crown?
- Have a man in a rabbit costume come out and screw around before the gig?
- In a hideously ironic moment, say, 'whatever bastard is in power always stay true to yourself and be an individual'?
Yeah. All that happened at mine. And at all the ones I've asked anyone else about too.
The last tour wasn't a punk rock show. Sure, it was competent. But there was a time when Green Day were an out of control live band and each show was different and it was fun. Now it's a charade.
I look on, incredibly intrigued, at what they are going to come up with to follow that album and tour... their Final Cut to their Wall, if you will.
All that happened in New Jersey when i saw them. It was a ton of fun. I think it was good too because it was just a few months after American Idiot came out and all that shit didn't go to Billy Joe's head yet. They played for at least two hours, and most of it was pre-American Idiot. Sugarcult & New Found Glory opened, both sucked.
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Dillinger Four opened for them in Japan. Dillinger Four also denied Avril Lavigne a free backstage pass at one of their shows.
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i saw them in glasgow in 2005, and it's one of the best shows i've ever been to. i know it was staged and theatrical, but i don't care, was worth the 600 mile round trip to see them. new found glory opened that one aswell, they were ok, nothing amazing.
they're one of the few bands from my early teens that i still listen to, my favourite album is probably nimrod, due to the variety of it and it's got some great songs. american idiot is pretty good, but as quite a few people have already said, overplayed.
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I still spin Insomniac now and again, but I generally don't listen to Green Day much at all these days. It's not that I don't still like them but rather that since they were the first punk band I ever had an album by and I completely fell in love with punk all their songs that I like are so ingrained that I don't need to play them much at all. I wouldn't bother seeing them live either, but that's because I just don't enjoy massive gigs enough to warrant the cost.
I never really liked their material on Lookout all that much though, I actually thought they became a better band once they made the move to a major. Green Day just seemed to work better when they were slicker, much as I do love other more ramshackle pop punk bands. They lost me after Warning though, I thought it an alright record and I wouldn't have liked them to have kept replicating the music they made in their twenties as they aged but it just wasn't doing it for me anymore.
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They are one of the first bands that I liked so much, I bought a cd, I bought all of their cd from the compliation 1039/SOSH to Bullet in a Bible. I still enjoy it sometimes but not as much as two years ago when I was obsessed by them.
My favorite albums are Insomniac and Nimrod, I don't really know why though, maybe the mood of the albums.
I went to their concert the 4th of September 2005. It was actually my first concert ever and it was really good. Anti-Flag were a guest band and Jimmy Eat World was the opener. I still keep a great memory of that concert.
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before anybody comes in and goes 'blah blah greenday r shit cuz dey r pop punk' or some other elitist bullshit no-one cares about - although i was disappointed by the very choreographed nature of their last tour.
Oh do shut up, you're damn near the biggest elitist here. Just because you take it from a 'poptimist' or whatever perspective don't mean it ain't so. get over yourself.
Also, Green Day blow chunks.
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I really love Green Day. I don't really care if they're overplayed or whatever. I think American Idiot is just a good an album as Dookie or Insomniac.
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I saw them on the American Idiot tour, actually. They played for damn near two hours, and most of it was pre-Warning songs. A good time. They can still put on a hell of a show, dudes.
My tickets were free. They were adept at pleasing the hordes of pre-teens, but if I were a kid I'd rather see Weird Al.
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get over yourself.
But I don't wanna!
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My tickets were free. They were adept at pleasing the hordes of pre-teens, but if I were a kid I'd rather see Weird Al.
Ditto to that. Al can make more then one good* song with his career unlike Green Day.
*More like just really catchy. One of those songs that even though you hate the band you can't get it out of your head.
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i used to be so big into punk
mostly for philisophical reasons and yest here are philosophical reasons behind punk
go hang your ignorant self if you don't think so but since we're all open minded
here i'm sure no one will have too (i hope)
greenday makes me cry like a sad emo child
especially when people are considering that piece of eyeliner trio of ball suck
punk!
*eats the guy's head who started this thread if he is being serious*
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if anyone is really saying that Greenday only made one good song (or even worse, none) please direct your attention to the Mediafire Thread and download Kerplunk, their best and, in my opinion, only good album. i uploaded it myself a while back and i'm pretty sure the link is still active.
do yourself this favor.
edit: Nevermind. here it is you lazy bastards (you know you are [lazy, that is. not bastards])
Green Day - Kerplunk
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V1JLU3SM
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Green Day used to have a practice at their live shows where they would stop playing in the event of people falling, getting too rowdy or starting violent mosh pits. I doubt they still do this with the size of their crowds these days, but from the way people talk about them, they excel at fan service, something people tend to forget when they achieve the success of Green Day.
So here's to Green Day! Your music may be boring and overplayed, but I hear you are good people.
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edit: Nevermind. here it is you lazy bastards (you know you are [lazy, that is. not bastards])
Thanks for that. (the album, not calling me a lazy bastard)
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i used to be so big into punk
mostly for philisophical reasons and yest here are philosophical reasons behind punk
Really? Punk rock has an ethic? Wow, you learn something new every day!
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ethics are for business majors, not punx.
Wait, I'm a business major. =/
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If you only count bands from after 1990 that most people have heard of, Green Day is one of the best bands in the world.
If you count more than that, they're only pretty good with one great album and a few more really good tracks.
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I think greenday is a pretty cool guy, eh makes plitically fueled songs to get attention and doesn't afraid of anything.
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and doesn't afraid of anything.
...?
...Je ne comprends pas.
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If you only count bands from after 1990 that most people have heard of, Green Day is one of the best bands in the world.
They're not even the best pop-punk band since 1990 (sup, The Ergs).
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I think greenday is a pretty cool guy, eh makes plitically fueled songs to get attention and doesn't afraid of anything.
there is SOOOOOOOOO MUCH better political punk out there
greenday is mtv political punk
all their politics is ill researched and always follows the current mainstream mtv trend of politics
watch some cspan greenday!
no seriously, fuck this greenday thread
greenday shames a glorious potentially world impacting genre and now "punk" is turning
into a barrel of shit because kids all over the world when they think punk are thinkin
ofgreenday instead of brilliant punk philosophers like joe strummer, jello biafra, patti smith,
dylan, mc5, and so much more
but no, its "bullet in a bible" and the very very very typical "bush = suxx0rz" crap
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sorry if i'm sounding so crude n rude but this is a pretty sensitive subject for me
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Yeah, greenday suck!
Green Day, on the other hand, I like a lot.
I think greenday is a pretty cool guy, eh makes plitically fueled songs to get attention and doesn't afraid of anything.
...yeah, those three people are a pretty cool guy?
edit: By the way, anyone else starting to thing that Jeff NewName or whatever this guy is called is a good name for a band?
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but no, its "bullet in a bible" and the very very very typical "bush = suxx0rz" crap
Green Day, dude. Not NOFX.
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They're not even the best pop-punk band since 1990 (sup, The Ergs).
The Ergs are fantastic.
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*facedesk*
I should be in Boston, watching them tonight.
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@dalconnsuch
yeah, Green Day sucks now and their politics are weak, at best. However, i would humbly ask you to not write off their entire discography because they suck now.
please, just listen to Kerplunk. there isn't an iota of anything resembling politics on that entire album. it's just a bunch of shitty rock songs about love, drugs, insomnia, and the "what now?" feelings of a post-highschool teen.
things we can all relate to.
if not even one song on that album speaks to you personally, then you were born an adult and never experienced adolescence. which is a real shame.
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OMG TRU PUNXX.
(http://henry.mpls.k12.mn.us/sites/40ffb804-cceb-41db-92d5-ed0b7a6eb987/uploads/casualties_bandpic_01_front.jpg)
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there is SOOOOOOOOO MUCH better political punk out there
greenday is mtv political punk
all their politics is ill researched and always follows the current mainstream mtv trend of politics
watch some cspan greenday!
no seriously, fuck this greenday thread
greenday shames a glorious potentially world impacting genre and now "punk" is turning
into a barrel of shit because kids all over the world when they think punk are thinkin
ofgreenday instead of brilliant punk philosophers like joe strummer, jello biafra, patti smith,
dylan, mc5, and so much more
but no, its "bullet in a bible" and the very very very typical "bush = suxx0rz" crap
Green Day was never political punk. They're still not political punk. The have previously written songs about personal politics, but the message 'BUSH SUCKS' hasn't been present on any album cuts. There was a song recorded for a compilation, but that song is so vague that you couldn't really call them out on it if it not for the title of the compilation it appeared on.
American Idiot wasn't a 'political' album in the sense of the word that you seem to be familiar with. I have trouble taking your post here seriously because every line sounds ridiculously absurd. American Idiot was an album about being American, and an idiot, with some angst thrown in for good measure. Some political statements appear on the album because that's the context. There was a war going on at the time, so of course that is going to be mentioned. But first and foremost, it's a concept album about being an american living in the suburbs. I don't particularly like the album, but even at a cursory glance of the lyrics online, that much is obvious. Saying that they have "ill informed politics" when all they do is state some facts is pretty weird.
Now, as for that claim about "punk" being a "potentially world impacting genre"...
The examples you listed were never really a part of that genre.
Claiming that band that isn't punk is destroying the credibility of punk music is completely insane. Punk is and always has been about subversive activity. Green Day releasing albums isn't going to make bands that are genuinely about making waves any less credible. They likely don't even sound like Green Day.
The best punk bands have resolve. The only way they're going to lose credibility is if they lose their resolve. Green Day releasing American Idiot hasn't made people respect genuine punks any less because they're from two separate worlds. The existence of American Idiot didn't suddenly make ex-Fugazi members come out, eat meat and stamp their faces on Nike ads. Green Day are not "shaming punk bands everywhere" any more than you are.
Claiming that Green Day suck because they don't have the punk ethic is ridiculous, because that's never what they were about. If you're going to hate on a band, hate on them for a legitimate reason. Dislike them because you find the music boring, Dislike them because you can't stand their front man, dislike them because they're unoriginal and other acts have done the same thing much better. Don't try to makeup some bullshit excuse for your hate.
Upon reviewing your post for the third time, I think you were joking. But I'm gonna go ahead and post this anyway, because whether you were joking or not, it's relevant.
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joe strummer, jello biafra, patti smith, dylan, mc5
All of those people mentioned above recorded for major labels. If you think their ethical or political stance was any more or less valid than Green Day, you are mistaken.
I wonder what their collective net worth is and how that would look compared to Green Day's?
There's likely some kind of correlation to be found in there.
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I have trouble taking your post here seriously because every line sounds ridiculously absurd.
This describes every one of his posts, actually.
/asshole
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I think greenday is a pretty cool guy, eh makes plitically fueled songs to get attention and doesn't afraid of anything.
there is SOOOOOOOOO MUCH better political punk out there
greenday is mtv political punk
all their politics is ill researched and always follows the current mainstream mtv trend of politics
watch some cspan greenday!
no seriously, fuck this greenday thread
greenday shames a glorious potentially world impacting genre and now "punk" is turning
into a barrel of shit because kids all over the world when they think punk are thinkin
ofgreenday instead of brilliant punk philosophers like joe strummer, jello biafra, patti smith,
dylan, mc5, and so much more
but no, its "bullet in a bible" and the very very very typical "bush = suxx0rz" crap
What is this cvuntinh shit go die
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Sox, you are officially one of my favorites. Please stay. We <3 you.
But dalconnsuch...every time you post, God kills a kitten.
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Goddamnit Jeff Newguy I hate you more than Gabbly.
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Sox, that was brilliant. Bravo, sir, bravo.
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*bullshit*
*stuff*
Now THAT, people, is the way to be a newbie.
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Personally, I think that Green Day suck the big one.
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Yeah, dire.
I'd probably be more apathetic towards them than flat out dislike them if that awful, awful song about September or whatever hadn't been playing on every radio station / in every store several times an hour for months a few years ago.
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this troll thread has jumped the shark....
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Oh, joke accounts. Sometimes you make me laugh like a little girl.
...Liz aren't you 5'3?
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this troll thread has jumped the shark....
Dude it jumped the shark 55 posts ago.
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Actually, you know who puts on amazing shows? Whatsitcalled.
Panic and the Disco.
I mean, I don't especially like them, but their shows are to die for. Green Day tries the same theatrics, but Panic and the Disco excells at it. They're one of the only concert videos I'll watch.
I used to like Green Day. My dad listened to it, so even though I knew nothing about them, I could quote lyrics. Then American Idiot came out.
American Idiot is ironic. To the point of absurdity.
It's an anti-mainstream, "against-the-man" from a mainstreamed, "man-controlled" band.
At least, that's my opinion.
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I took a trip to youtube to find out what you were talking about. Now, youtube reveals you're talking about this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MbGl9mzKjME) band and comparing them to this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=qwx0v7Z4cMg) band...
...and you'd rather hear the former? Can I have some of what you're taking? If I could derive pleasure from a band as insipid as Panic At The Disco then I would be a VERY happy man. The interesting thing is that while Green Day and hundreds of times more tolerable than Panic At the Disco, you could switch the vocals around and I wouldn't be able to tell.
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It's not that I like Panic's music better, I just prefer their theatricality. I'd rather listening to old Green Day any day of the week, if I had to choose.
I mean, I don't I like either band a whole lot, but if whatev.
Panic at the Disco has fun shows.
Green Day has some fun songs.
I really hate boring concerts. And standing concerts. But that's only because I'm short.
I am a teenager. I need to be entertained at all times, or my texting bill is through the roof.
I also heard something about Panic at the Disco taking their name from a ---->Smiths<---- (shineshineblinknblinkyay.) song.
Which made me happy. <3
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If it's theatrics you're looking for, might I suggest this band (http://youtube.com/watch?v=y2qQAedVA_8&feature=related)?
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There are a lot of bands who put on great shows. The Faint had good theatrics when I saw them. And if you want to be entertained, I saw Ingrid Michaelson and I left the concert with a sore face because I couldn't stop laughing, because she was really funny. Yes, there are boring shows, but most of the shows I've seen involve something other than a band standing around singing at you, like crazy video elements, the band being personable, or the audience being too busy dancing to really be bored.
(Yes, I realize neither of the musicians I listed are related in anyway to Green Day, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.)
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I just banned both Jeff Newguy & Gabbly. I didn't IP ban, just the accounts. Both accounts were run by regulars who should know better, ie: that unfunny alt accounts are pretty dumb and also annoying.