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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Christophe on 16 Apr 2008, 17:38
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So the Weez put out a new single on their site called "Pork and Beans".
It's pretty bad, but it's a lot better than anything else they've done since 2001, despite it sounding like a bad Weezer cover band covering a Cake song, and the lyrics are about as insipid as the band has gotten and FUCK ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO IT GOD DAMN YOU RIVERS CUOMO, GOD DAMN YOU TO HELL YOU CAREERIST CHEAPSKATE.
Share in my misery here! (http://www.weezer.com)
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SPOILER ALERT: In the second verse, Rivers makes fun of Timbaland.
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Hmm, making a thread of hatred to a band. Well, I must say, it wasnt my favorites, but I'm going to leave this thread, just to be safe.
(Off topic) Haven't seen you in awhile Johnny, where've you been? (Other then the barren land called Saskatchewan)
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Being ashamed at the amount of time spent on here, I would imagine.
Just kidding.
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This is all a part of the plot to make sure that nobody likes Weezer anymore so that RIvers feels comfortable making good music again.
Obviously.
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I like it. It's got a good beat, and you can dance to it.
Seriously. It's not bad.
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So Johnny, are you just gonna keep on deleting your old posts so you never hit 10,000 or what?
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That song sucks. I think it must be all the references to specific products & daily events, because the first thing the song reminded me of was LFO's "Summer Girls." You know, "I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch / Chinese food makes me sick"? Not to mention the chorus shows all the evocative imagery of an angsty pre-teen's poetry.
I didn't think they'd sink lower than "Beverly Hills," but Rivers has proved me wrong.
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So Johnny, are you just gonna keep on deleting your old posts so you never hit 10,000 or what?
No, he knocked on the door of the 10,000 post club but he was rejected. Now he's going backwards: 9999, 9998, 9997 . . . until he reaches 0 again, and has to start afresh.
It's an extraordinarily hard club to get into; if not even Johnny C can get in then you and I have no chance.
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I didn't think they'd sink lower than "Beverly Hills," but Rivers has proved me wrong.
Strange. I had a friend of mine who pretty much said that it might as well be the same as BevHills, but I think that this song is definitely a step up.
But frankly, the song is still so bad that "a step up" doesn't say much. The lyrics are probably just as bad as Beverly Hills' were.
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I'm just trying to get my head around the fact that they use the phrase "i don't give a hoot" in the chorus.
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So... Ummm... No one else is with me in thinking this song is pretty great?
Or that Make Believe had a lot of wonderful songs and moments on it?
Also, not enough of you have listened to the A5 demos, which had a large number of songs that were among the best Weezer has ever produced.
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Make Believe was shit, "Beverly Hills" was shit, the A5 demos were great and this song has awesome verses but no hook in the chorus. I am reserving judgment on the record until I can hear it.
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Make Believe was shit, "Beverly Hills" was shit, the A5 demos were great and this song has awesome verses but no hook in the chorus. I am reserving judgment on the record until I can hear it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I think I'll have Johnny C post for me from now on.
(Tommy, I think the best A5 demo song was "Mansion of Cardboard")
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Since Pinkerton, I've been hoping for something even half as great.
Green came out, and I was keen on it for a month, but it wasn't what I hoped
Maladroit came out, and I considered it better than Green, but still..
4 1/2 demos came out, and I got my hopes up.
'Make Believe' comes out, and I throw the CD-R away after two listens. What the hell.
I'll no longer look forward to Weezer releases. :(
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I prefer 'Running Man' maybe.
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Alright, I've heard so much about "a bloo bloo bloo A5 demos are good"... I guess it would behoove me to actually listen to them.
Is there a site that has the demos up or do I have to go a-torrentin'? I'm googlin' and I can't find 'em.
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Sure, I'll rar 'em up for sendspace. Hold
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/amyr6o
weezer album 5 demos
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Thanks muchly.
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Note to self: Avoid thread that is bashing the first band you ever loved.
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It was the first band I ever loved too, dude. I didn't mean this to be an all out "Bash Weezer!" thread, more as a discussion of their newest single, but you've got to admit they've written a bunch of stinkers.
Then again, I've heard some of the A5 demo songs so far and am liking them a lot more than the other new Weezer stuff I've heard.
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I listened to Make Believe today, since it had been a while since I had done so, and this thread made me want to see if I was decieving myself. Yeah, a bunch of the songs aren't very good, some even really bad ("We Are All On Drugs", "Beverly Hills", "Freak Me Out"). But some of those songs are excellent. There are problems with unnecessary guitar solos, but "Perfect Situation", "Hold Me", "Peace", and "Haunt You Everyday" were all standouts, and none of the other songs made me cringe in the least.
Maybe this should be a guilty pleasure. Maybe I am wrong.
But I really, actually enjoy this album.
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It seems like there's a split between people who've known and loved Weezer since the Blue Album/Pinkerton days, and people who got into them more recently. I didn't start listening to them until after the Green Album came out, and to me, there's really not a huge drop in quality across the board. Just a move from total unadulterated brilliance to just... (for the most part) good. I can totally see how that would make the new stuff sound awful to the old fans, but I really don't think it is.
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Tommy, did you hear that demos album Rivers released last year? It was pretty darn good, though there weren't many songs that hadn't been floating around the internet for years already. Sloan plays one of the songs.
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367.mp3 Mansion Of Cardboard.mp3 Superstar.mp3
Fontana.mp3 Private Message.mp3 The Organ Player.mp3
Hey Domingo.mp3 Queen Of Earth.mp3 The Victor.mp3
Lullaby.mp3 Running Man.mp3 Untenable.mp3
Mad Kow.mp3 She Who Is Militant.mp3
Strange, that's what I have. To the downloader!
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'Yellow Camaro' - Stuff like this makes you realise that if Rivers wasn't such an egotistical cocksocket and actually allowed the rest of his band to write some songs for Weezer, things would be a lot better.
Apparently the new album includes songs from the other band members.
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This thread made me remember "Beverly Hills" existed and now it's stuck in my head. I cannot stress how much I hate all of you right now.
Now I am going to see if these legendry demos are as unsucky as they always claimed.
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Typical Rivers trick of doubling the vocal in the verse as his guitar solo.
See, that's kind of why I didn't like the Green Album that much. It got really repetitive after a few songs.
'Prodigy Lover' - They actually showed this being recorded on that Weezer DVD right? That was how this whole session was recorded I believe. Another fine song.
Somewhat. I've heard two or three different versions (one without piano), but yeah, there's one on Video Capture Device.
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My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/24_Hour_Revenge_Therapy_-_Jawbreaker.jpg)
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I consider In the Garage to be one of the best songs ever written about Nightcrawler.
And, El Scorcho found its way into a ridiculously high percentage of mix tapes I've made.
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My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.
...I think every puppy in the world just died.
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Good thing I hate puppies.
Not really, but I am allergic as fuck to cats.
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i had a girlfriend who loved weezer
those horrible romantic decisions, i tried to accept her love for weezer
all it braught was nightmares
i would like to say "i wish weezer died in a fire" but then they'd
be awesomely famous and credited as "one of the incredible
bands of the 90's" in an instant
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they'd
be awesomely famous and credited as "one of the incredible
bands of the 90's" in an instant
Too late.
Also, I find the way you formatted that post, with the splitting of sentences in the middle into new paragraphs, really interesting. There any reasoning behind it?
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My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.
...I think every puppy in the world just died.
I'd think so.....but there's the off chance that he's just joking......you're joking right? Where have you been for like....the past 10 years? Every hippy and psuedo-geek I know loves Weezer....how does someone not know weezer?
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Also, I find the way you formatted that post, with the splitting of sentences in the middle into new paragraphs, really interesting. There any reasoning behind it?
I'm putting my money on the table and saying 'brain tumour.'
I finally listened to 'Pork and Beans' today, and I quite like it. The chorus is slightly by-numbers, but I like the slightly quirky acoustic thing in the verse, and this self-referential 'make a catchy song!' thing he's got going on.
What I hope most is that he's stuck to this six minute epics thing he suggested he was doing in the liner notes to Alone.
Plus, the new album is red and self-titled. Is this a good sign, we ask?
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Serious question, why is Pinkerton the only Weezer album that I can stand to listen to. I think it's awesome. I think every single other thing they have ever done has been complete shit. I really want to know why, other than "Pinkerton sounds different from all their other albums".
I liked The Rentals a lot more.
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Serious question, why is Pinkerton the only Weezer album that I can stand to listen to. I think it's awesome. I think every single other thing they have ever done has been complete shit. I really want to know why, other than "Pinkerton sounds different from all their other albums".
I think that Pinkerton is the only Weezer album I haven't listened to in it's complete entirety. Maybe that's why I don't get why people like Weezer so much. I mean there are some great ones on their self-titled.....but not enough that it was amazing. Maybe I should give Pinkerton a listen or two.
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I still like Weezer. But I only listen to their older stuff, so I guess I'll just keep listening to what I have and go on liking Weezer.
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I'd think so.....but there's the off chance that he's just joking......you're joking right? Where have you been for like....the past 10 years? Every hippy and psuedo-geek I know loves Weezer....how does someone not know weezer?
*sheepishly raises hand* Wait, I have an excuse. I live in friggin Australia...
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I liked The Rentals a lot more.
The Rentals are still pretty good!
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Hey DynamiteKid, some of the old boardies from ATNW are apparently coming back to the official forums. You think you'll re-register?
Me personally, I'll very fucking pass unless I have a good reason to. Or if I have no real reason to.\
Foot-in-Mouth edit: Fuck me I just re-registered.
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they'd
be awesomely famous and credited as "one of the incredible
bands of the 90's" in an instant
Too late.
Also, I find the way you formatted that post, with the splitting of sentences in the middle into new paragraphs, really interesting. There any reasoning behind it?
I'm registering a vote for "failed haiku".
Also, I heard Weezer the other day while working on the school play, and found it to sound really shit?
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Sorry, statement or question?
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My Weezer knowledge starts and ends with 'My Name is Jonas' from guitar hero III. It's ok, quite catchy, but for the life of me I can't understand why a pop-punk band (at these that's what Jonas sounds like) gets any sort of indie cred.
...I think every puppy in the world just died.
I'd think so.....but there's the off chance that he's just joking......you're joking right? Where have you been for like....the past 10 years? Every hippy and psuedo-geek I know loves Weezer....how does someone not know weezer?
Oh, well I've heard the name before. I'm not much of a hippy or pseudo-geek, if that helps. Perhaps they're bigger in America then they are here? Honestly, I haven't really heard any mention of them in any media outlet down here, nor do I know anyone who likes them. I think I read an interview with Rivers Cuomo in Guitar World a few years, but that's been it for me. :mrgreen:
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Hey DynamiteKid, some of the old boardies from ATNW are apparently coming back to the official forums. You think you'll re-register?
Me personally, I'll very fucking pass unless I have a good reason to. Or if I have no real reason to.\
Foot-in-Mouth edit: Fuck me I just re-registered.
I dunno, I'm not sure I really want to, honestly. Those board were horrible, I'm not sure why exactly I miss them in all honesty. I might re-register and see what happens.
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I guess I liked Weezer at some point. Or had a complete obsession. Whatever.
Either way, I love most of the album 5 demos. And I like The Organ Player, he uses the word Necromancer. And it makes me happy. They're also the last good songs I've ever heard Weezer play and ever expect to hear.
I'm going to go listen to Sandwiches Time and giggle now.
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Playing weezer songs in rock band/guitar hero is pretty rad. Beyond that I don't have much use for them.
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Playing weezer songs in rock band/guitar hero is pretty rad.
That's not saying all that much, though. Hell, even playing the Killers on guitar hero was enjoyable.
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I'm also in the boat that I really don't enjoy Weezer outside of Pinkerton. Pinkerton is freakin' awesome. The Blue Album had a bunch of songs I've always loved too(Undone, No One Else, etc.), but Pinkerton is where it's at.
Oh, and I don't like that Pork & Beans song at all. It's pretty meh.
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Apparently they're promising Blue Album and Pinkerton sounds on the next album: http://www.punknews.org/article/28601
Maybe they recorded some good demos for this album and, y'know, used them.
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That's not saying all that much, though. Hell, even playing the Killers on guitar hero was enjoyable.
FreQuency even managed to make me enjoy a No Doubt song.
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I think my love for Weezer ends and begins with Buddy Holly, and that's about it. I did like a lot of the blue album, and I remember when the blue album was the only one you could find. Though it makes me LOL that anyone would consider Weezer an indie band.
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When Weezer started out they were like "My First Sebadoh Band".
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Apparently they're promising Blue Album and Pinkerton sounds on the next album: http://www.punknews.org/article/28601
Maybe they recorded some good demos for this album and, y'know, used them.
Didn't they say that for Make Believe as well? Or was it more of a general "Hey, we'll be good again, promise!"
I love both Blue and Pinkerton, though I think overall I prefer Blue. Just great pop and lovely guitar crunch.
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The "Red Album"? They sure get an A+ for creativity.
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Cowboy Rivers = Super nightmare.
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This is where someone needs to do the thing where they slowly zoom in on his face over five or six images.
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Cowboy Rivers = Super nightmare.
What about Sexy Wolfman Brian?
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Brian is frightening.
(Also Scott looks like he's trying too hard to be cool)
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Cowboy Rivers = Super nightmare.
What about Sexy Wolfman Brian?
Most likely wrangled up by Cowboy Rivers.
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That picture would be very funny if I thought Rivers had that good a grasp of irony.
Oh dear.
And to think about four years ago I was on the Weezer forums telling people the band wouldn't be stupid enough to do another colour album.
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I figure Rivers really must have a good grasp of irony. It is the only thing that explains "We Are All On Drugs" and "Beverly Hills".
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He's actually gone on record as saying that "Beverly Hills" wasn't intended to be ironic.
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That picture would be very funny if I thought Rivers had that good a grasp of irony.
Oh dear.
And to think about four years ago I was on the Weezer forums telling people the band wouldn't be stupid enough to do another colour album.
The new .com forum got invaded by a few people from the Counting Crows forum. How incredibly pathetic. We're being punked by COUNTING CROWS boardies? Incredibly weak.
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That was irony too.
It's the only explanation.
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He's actually gone on record as saying that "Beverly Hills" wasn't intended to be ironic.
Well yes, and I've always tried to ignore that and think he was being ironic. But seeing that picture, even if I do think he was being ironic... I just don't think Rivers Cuomo can wear a cowboy hat and not mean it. I mean, at various points he's playing a Flying V and an Explorer without joking...
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I play an Explorer knockoff. It's actually quite a good guitar.
Uh, I guess I should comment on that album cover. It's too bad that I can't think of the words.
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Don't get me wrong, I personally hate Explorers, but is a guy who signs about Dungeons And Dragons in one of the geekiest bands ever someone who you would hand an Explorer too (without irony as the intent)? Because I really wouldn't.
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Explorers are awesome guitars. Surprisingly comfortable to play, and just extremely cool looking. Worth noting that Hetfield circa '87 played them almost exclusively- I don't think anything more needs to be said.
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As ridiculous as that album cover looks now, I can only imagine how poorly it'll age. Ten years from now, Rivers will look at that and wonder what the fuck he was thinking.
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To be honest I'm not entirely sure that it's real. It's a TERRIBLE design, and looks embarrassing enough now. Surely Rivers isn't THAT stoned. It's got to be a fake.
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This is coming from a guy who thought "We Are All On Drugs" was good enough to release as a single. Aesthetic taste, apparently, isn't exactly Rivers' strong suit.
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Apparently Rivers was right though. The song was a hit. Same with Beverly Hills. They may not have been good songs, but they were apparently enjoyable to a majority of people out there.
And it is the new cover. Confirmed on their website. I think everyone here is taking it to seriously, and that it's pretty hilarious. And if it isn't supposed to be funny, that's just as good in my mind. I'm happy there's someone out there willing to do these sorts of things with passion.
And Weezer haven't had a huge history of great album covers anyhow (Pinkerton aside). It's not like this should be a big surprise.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Weezergreen.jpg)?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Weezer_-_Blue_Album.jpg)?
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To be fair: "No one" has liked anything Weezer's put out since the Blue Album.
People shit talked Pinkerton for years before everyone suddenly started liking it. The Green Album and Maladroit are solid and great (respectively) pop-rock albums, with some of great songs between them. The problem is people who fancy themselves tastemakers want Weezer to be Pavement, and they want to be Cheap Trick. And for some reason people think there's something wrong with that.
I haven't heard Make Believe, but the new single is decent, it reminds me a little of "El Scorcho", which isn't surpising considering Rivers supposedly has a formula for writing good pop songs (which he is really good at).
Selling millions of records over a decade, after breaking up your band twice, isn't failure. I'm sure most blog-rock bands wished they could have a career trajectory half as generous as Weezer's has been.
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Weezer never broke up, let alone twice. They've switched bassists, but that's about it.
I kinda miss Mikey Welsh, too. =/
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People shit talked Pinkerton for years before everyone suddenly started liking it.
Not everyone. I liked it when it came out, a lot, which surprised me because I hated the first one. I heard "El Scorcho" and thought "How cute, Weezer are trying really hard to sound like Pavement now", so I bought the album and dug it.
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To be fair: "No one" has liked anything Weezer's put out since the Blue Album.
People shit talked Pinkerton for years before everyone suddenly started liking it. The Green Album and Maladroit are solid and great (respectively) pop-rock albums, with some of great songs between them. The problem is people who fancy themselves tastemakers want Weezer to be Pavement, and they want to be Cheap Trick. And for some reason people think there's something wrong with that.
I've never really gotten into Weezer at all, but even I remember that Pinkerton got a good amount of positive press when it came out. Granted, some of the reviews were unfavorable (largely because it was such a change from the Blue Album), but plenty lauded it as a sign of artistic growth.
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No one in WEEZER thought Pinkerton was good.
Rivers still hates that album.