Topic: Weezer, or an American legacy of continual failure (Read 21953 times)

Caspian · « **Reply #50 on:** 19 Apr 2008, 08:20 »

Quote from: jeph on 19 Apr 2008, 08:10

Playing weezer songs in rock band/guitar hero is pretty rad.

That's not saying all that much, though. Hell, even playing the Killers on guitar hero was enjoyable.

Kyros · « **Reply #51 on:** 19 Apr 2008, 10:02 »

I'm also in the boat that I really don't enjoy Weezer outside of Pinkerton. Pinkerton is freakin' awesome. The Blue Album had a bunch of songs I've always loved too(Undone, No One Else, etc.), but Pinkerton is where it's at.

Oh, and I don't like that Pork & Beans song at all. It's pretty meh.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #52 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 16:14 »

Apparently they're promising Blue Album and Pinkerton sounds on the next album: http://www.punknews.org/article/28601

Maybe they recorded some good demos for this album and, y'know, used them.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #53 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 16:33 »

Quote from: Caspian on 19 Apr 2008, 08:20

That's not saying all that much, though. Hell, even playing the Killers on guitar hero was enjoyable.

FreQuency even managed to make me enjoy a No Doubt song.

laizeohbeets · « **Reply #54 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 16:48 »

I think my love for Weezer ends and begins with Buddy Holly, and that's about it. I did like a lot of the blue album, and I remember when the blue album was the only one you could find. Though it makes me LOL that anyone would consider Weezer an indie band.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #55 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 16:58 »

When Weezer started out they were like "My First Sebadoh Band".

FireAarro · « **Reply #56 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 17:14 »

Quote from: ImRonBurgundy? on 21 Apr 2008, 16:14

Apparently they're promising Blue Album and Pinkerton sounds on the next album: http://www.punknews.org/article/28601

Maybe they recorded some good demos for this album and, y'know, used them.

Didn't they say that for Make Believe as well? Or was it more of a general "Hey, we'll be good again, promise!"

I love both Blue and Pinkerton, though I think overall I prefer Blue. Just great pop and lovely guitar crunch.

Joseph · « **Reply #57 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 21:12 »

Tom · « **Reply #58 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 21:28 »

The "Red Album"? They sure get an A+ for creativity.

Christophe · « **Reply #59 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 23:18 »

Cowboy Rivers = Super nightmare.

RobbieOC · « **Reply #60 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 23:29 »

This is where someone needs to do the thing where they slowly zoom in on his face over five or six images.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #61 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 01:41 »

Quote from: TheLetterM on 21 Apr 2008, 23:18

Cowboy Rivers = Super nightmare.

What about Sexy Wolfman Brian?

valley_parade · « **Reply #62 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 03:48 »

Brian is frightening.

(Also Scott looks like he's trying too hard to be cool)

Christophe · « **Reply #63 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 07:41 »

Quote from: ImRonBurgundy? on 22 Apr 2008, 01:41

Quote from: TheLetterM on 21 Apr 2008, 23:18
Cowboy Rivers = Super nightmare.

What about Sexy Wolfman Brian?

Most likely wrangled up by Cowboy Rivers.

Thrillho · « **Reply #64 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 10:58 »

That picture would be very funny if I thought Rivers had that good a grasp of irony.

Oh dear.

And to think about four years ago I was on the Weezer forums telling people the band wouldn't be stupid enough to do another colour album.

Joseph · « **Reply #65 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 11:14 »

I figure Rivers really must have a good grasp of irony. It is the only thing that explains "We Are All On Drugs" and "Beverly Hills".

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #66 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 11:19 »

He's actually gone on record as saying that "Beverly Hills" wasn't intended to be ironic.

Christophe · « **Reply #67 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 11:34 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 22 Apr 2008, 10:58

That picture would be very funny if I thought Rivers had that good a grasp of irony.

Oh dear.

And to think about four years ago I was on the Weezer forums telling people the band wouldn't be stupid enough to do another colour album.

The new .com forum got invaded by a few people from the Counting Crows forum. How incredibly pathetic. We're being punked by COUNTING CROWS boardies? Incredibly weak.

Joseph · « **Reply #68 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 11:34 »

That was irony too.

It's the only explanation.

Thrillho · « **Reply #69 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 12:33 »

Quote from: ImRonBurgundy? on 22 Apr 2008, 11:19

He's actually gone on record as saying that "Beverly Hills" wasn't intended to be ironic.

Well yes, and I've always tried to ignore that and think he was being ironic. But seeing that picture, even if I do think he was being ironic... I just don't think Rivers Cuomo can wear a cowboy hat and not mean it. I mean, at various points he's playing a Flying V and an Explorer without joking...

Johnny C · « **Reply #70 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 12:37 »

I play an Explorer knockoff. It's actually quite a good guitar.

Uh, I guess I should comment on that album cover. It's too bad that I can't think of the words.

Thrillho · « **Reply #71 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 12:41 »

Don't get me wrong, I personally hate Explorers, but is a guy who signs about Dungeons And Dragons in one of the geekiest bands ever someone who you would hand an Explorer too (without irony as the intent)? Because I really wouldn't.

Caspian · « **Reply #72 on:** 22 Apr 2008, 19:21 »

Explorers are awesome guitars. Surprisingly comfortable to play, and just extremely cool looking. Worth noting that Hetfield circa '87 played them almost exclusively- I don't think anything more needs to be said.

FireAarro · « **Reply #73 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 02:42 »

Quote from: Dark Flame on 21 Apr 2008, 21:12

rynne · « **Reply #74 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 06:37 »

As ridiculous as that album cover looks now, I can only imagine how poorly it'll age. Ten years from now, Rivers will look at that and wonder what the fuck he was thinking.

Caspian · « **Reply #75 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 07:24 »

To be honest I'm not entirely sure that it's real. It's a TERRIBLE design, and looks embarrassing enough now. Surely Rivers isn't THAT stoned. It's got to be a fake.

Christophe · « **Reply #76 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 07:32 »

This is coming from a guy who thought "We Are All On Drugs" was good enough to release as a single. Aesthetic taste, apparently, isn't exactly Rivers' strong suit.

Joseph · « **Reply #77 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 08:43 »

Apparently Rivers was right though. The song was a hit. Same with Beverly Hills. They may not have been good songs, but they were apparently enjoyable to a majority of people out there.

And it is the new cover. Confirmed on their website. I think everyone here is taking it to seriously, and that it's pretty hilarious. And if it isn't supposed to be funny, that's just as good in my mind. I'm happy there's someone out there willing to do these sorts of things with passion.

And Weezer haven't had a huge history of great album covers anyhow (Pinkerton aside). It's not like this should be a big surprise.

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the Goat · « **Reply #78 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 09:47 »

To be fair: "No one" has liked anything Weezer's put out since the Blue Album.

People shit talked Pinkerton for years before everyone suddenly started liking it. The Green Album and Maladroit are solid and great (respectively) pop-rock albums, with some of great songs between them. The problem is people who fancy themselves tastemakers want Weezer to be Pavement, and they want to be Cheap Trick. And for some reason people think there's something wrong with that.

I haven't heard Make Believe, but the new single is decent, it reminds me a little of "El Scorcho", which isn't surpising considering Rivers supposedly has a formula for writing good pop songs (which he is really good at).

Selling millions of records over a decade, after breaking up your band twice, isn't failure. I'm sure most blog-rock bands wished they could have a career trajectory half as generous as Weezer's has been.

valley_parade · « **Reply #79 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 09:59 »

Weezer never broke up, let alone twice. They've switched bassists, but that's about it.

I kinda miss Mikey Welsh, too. =/

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #80 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 10:18 »

Quote from: the Goat on 23 Apr 2008, 09:47

People shit talked Pinkerton for years before everyone suddenly started liking it.

Not everyone. I liked it when it came out, a lot, which surprised me because I hated the first one. I heard "El Scorcho" and thought "How cute, Weezer are trying really hard to sound like Pavement now", so I bought the album and dug it.

rynne · « **Reply #81 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 10:37 »

Quote from: the Goat on 23 Apr 2008, 09:47

To be fair: "No one" has liked anything Weezer's put out since the Blue Album.

People shit talked Pinkerton for years before everyone suddenly started liking it. The Green Album and Maladroit are solid and great (respectively) pop-rock albums, with some of great songs between them. The problem is people who fancy themselves tastemakers want Weezer to be Pavement, and they want to be Cheap Trick. And for some reason people think there's something wrong with that.

I've never really gotten into Weezer at all, but even I remember that Pinkerton got a good amount of positive press when it came out. Granted, some of the reviews were unfavorable (largely because it was such a change from the Blue Album), but plenty lauded it as a sign of artistic growth.

suitupletsgo · « **Reply #82 on:** 23 Apr 2008, 11:15 »

No one in WEEZER thought Pinkerton was good.

Rivers still hates that album.

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