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Title: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 06 May 2008, 18:31
Alright, so I've been checking out B-52 amps and i hear they are real nice. http://www.music123.com/B-52-AT-100-100W-Tube-Guitar-Amp-with-Tri-Mode-Rectifier-481303-i1145577.Music123. that is the link to the amp i'm talking about and I want to know if anyone has experience with them, and i wanna find out if they are any good. a few reviews should do it, please post
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: PacoSees on 06 May 2008, 18:36
I hope I'm not too late.

It would probably behoove you to go to the "Hi, I'm New" forum so that other people won't keep reminding you that starting a thread as your first post somewhere else is  :x ed upon.

Also, why would anyone want anything besides a Vox amp... Ever?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 06 May 2008, 18:44
Or a Fender Tube amp?

(I wish I could afford a Vox.   :-( )
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: ViolentDove on 06 May 2008, 18:44
I honestly don't see any problem with a first post being a amp related one. All good, in my opinion!

I've never used any guitar amps from b52, but we use the PA-215s they make. They've got a good sound, and are pretty reliable, so I'm guessing their amps would be similar. As always though, heading down to a shop and having a play around is generally the best idea for something like this. 
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 06 May 2008, 18:47
I hope I'm not too late.

It would probably behoove you to go to the "Hi, I'm New" forum so that other people won't keep reminding you that starting a thread as your first post somewhere else is  :x ed upon.

Also, why would anyone want anything besides a Vox amp... Ever?
Believe me if i could afford a Vox, i would most definately buy one.
What i really want is a Fender Twin, but alas, I do not have the money  :cry:
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 06 May 2008, 18:49
I honestly don't see any problem with a first post being a amp related one. All good, in my opinion!

I've never used any guitar amps from b52, but we use the PA-215s they make. They've got a good sound, and are pretty reliable, so I'm guessing their amps would be similar. As always though, heading down to a shop and having a play around is generally the best idea for something like this. 

The Pawnshops around me blow.
As well as the music shops.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Cire27 on 06 May 2008, 19:47
So I take it a Vox Valvetronix would be a good idea for me to buy?

Sorry, not trying to derail the thread.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 06 May 2008, 19:51
I guess.  They're pretty okay, for solid states.  I'm just not a fan of modeling amps.  Which model in particular are you planning on buying?

The Pawnshops around me blow.
As well as the music shops.

Have you played anything near you that you liked?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Spluff on 06 May 2008, 20:05
Don't get a valvetronix. Get a tiny terror or similar instead.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: greenMonkey on 06 May 2008, 21:52
Good god yes get a Tiny Terror.  MY friend just got one and he's playing it through a Blackheart 1x12 and JESUS ITS SO GREAT.

I personally love my Traynor TS-50, though its definitely an acquired taste.  Most people think I'm pretty weird when they find out I play a Lilac Danelectro U-1 through a beat up Traynor TS-50, and I willingly chose those over other options.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 16:48
I guess.  They're pretty okay, for solid states.  I'm just not a fan of modeling amps.  Which model in particular are you planning on buying?

The Pawnshops around me blow.
As well as the music shops.

Have you played anything near you that you liked?

This shop near me has a real nice Bassman and a Twin Reverb, but like i said, low money.
I'm now leaning toward the B-52 Rectifier.
I saw some tests with it, the clean is real nice which is where most of it counts for me.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 16:50
Good god yes get a Tiny Terror.  MY friend just got one and he's playing it through a Blackheart 1x12 and JESUS ITS SO GREAT.

I personally love my Traynor TS-50, though its definitely an acquired taste.  Most people think I'm pretty weird when they find out I play a Lilac Danelectro U-1 through a beat up Traynor TS-50, and I willingly chose those over other options.

My boss used to have an old Traynor Bassmaster
It was damn good
And i must say I like your set up.
When people see a beat up amp they assume it's shit.
Cmpletely untrue
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: MusicScribbles on 07 May 2008, 16:54
I wholeheartedly recommend the Tiny Terror, but hey now, there is nothing wrong with a Valvetronix. My AD15VT has served me quite well. A plus? Such a small thing, but such a huge sound, UHGBLUHGUHBLUH.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 17:07
I wholeheartedly recommend the Tiny Terror, but hey now, there is nothing wrong with a Valvetronix. My AD15VT has served me quite well. A plus? Such a small thing, but such a huge sound, UHGBLUHGUHBLUH.

I'm told Orange Amps are incredibly loud, never had the honour of playing one.  :cry:
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Alex_hanifin on 07 May 2008, 17:32
you know i was gonna get one of these but i got my windsor instead. i've seen all kinds of videos of them on youtube and stuff, they're like the "poor man's mesa boogie". they're good amps for what they are and their price tag. i read some reviews though and people are complaining about them just randomly not working after a couple months or something, IDK.Also, the gator music up here by me has orange amps. also hiwatt, so if you wanna play a tiny terror, there's been one sitting there for months.  btw GUESS WHO LOL.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 17:37
you know i was gonna get one of these but i got my windsor instead. i've seen all kinds of videos of them on youtube and stuff, they're like the "poor man's mesa boogie". they're good amps for what they are and their price tag. i read some reviews though and people are complaining about them just randomly not working after a couple months or something, IDK.Also, the gator music up here by me has orange amps. also hiwatt, so if you wanna play a tiny terror, there's been one sitting there for months.  btw GUESS WHO LOL.

you lost the game.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Alex_hanifin on 07 May 2008, 17:38
i actually won the game a few days ago so i'm free of it now.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 17:39
i actually won the game a few days ago so i'm free of it now.

You juan it? You're a liar. Lieing is a sin. So you're going to a non-existent hell. How do you feel?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Alex_hanifin on 07 May 2008, 17:41
srsly http://xkcd.com/391/
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 17:42
srsly http://xkcd.com/391/

It appears we are getting off talking. If you're going to not talk about the B-52 Rectifier, at least talk about a different cheap tube amp.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 17:43
srsly http://xkcd.com/391/

It appears we are getting off talking. If you're going to not talk about the B-52 Rectifier, at least talk about a different cheap tube amp.

*topic
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: MusicScribbles on 07 May 2008, 17:45
One! Mr. Mojo, you are a pretty great new poster so far, but, the edit button is there for a reason. Please do not double post.
Also! Do not scold that man. He has done you a favor. He has freed your mind.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 07 May 2008, 17:47
One! Mr. Mojo, you are a pretty great new poster so far, but, the edit button is there for a reason. Please do not double post.
Also! Do not scold that man. He has done you a favor. He has freed your mind.

Apologies. It is true, the game was starting to get to me -_-
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Beastmouth on 08 May 2008, 09:29
Who needs 100 watts?  Seriously?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 08 May 2008, 16:27
Who needs 100 watts?  Seriously?

I like to be loud...
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 08 May 2008, 16:36
Tube watts go a long way.  Vox AC15s are hella loud for being a fifteen watt 1x12.  The also get this sick overdrive sound when you turn the top boost up.

The best part?  They are only five hundred dollars.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 08 May 2008, 16:37
i think we can all agree that tube overdrive is the greatest thing ever. Besides the sound of a Big Muff of course.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Ballard on 08 May 2008, 22:58
Dude the Big Muff is disappointingly non versatile. It does one thing great but that's fuckin' all it does.

Tube overdrive, however, is amazing on many levels.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 09 May 2008, 10:59
i think we can all agree that tube overdrive is the greatest thing ever. Besides the sound of a RAT of course.

Fixed.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Ballard on 09 May 2008, 13:54
Oh my god, you're doing it so wrong. Man I love my RAT and that comment makes me want to kill myself.

The predecessor of the distortion pedal, the overdrive, was designed to re-create the sound of an overdriven tube amp. The fuzz's history is quite similar, only it re-creates the sound of a dying tube amp.

Distortion is a middle ground I guess. But it can never replace or outdo authentic overdriven tubes.

Of course there's tube-driven distortion pedals (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-English-Muffn-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=153335) but that's a whole 'nother topic.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 09 May 2008, 17:22
I like where this is going. Change of topic, yeah?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: king dan on 09 May 2008, 18:06
Relating to the original post...

B-52s are relatively so-so amps in my opinion. The last tour I was on, my AC15 died so I used this other band's B-52 100 watt...

Pros...
- can be louder than anything ever
- 2 channel footswitch was awesome

Cons...

- very solid-statey...if you like the sound of tubes..this ain't it
- eardrum piercing treble, which results in a real scratchy sound and horrible screaming highs that kill people
- rolling off on the eq fixed this, but resulted in mud...tone death, unless you like that sort of thing

        There's another amp...the marshall mg100 is the same price and I think it's much better all around. it also has a tube emulation circuit...to get a faux tube sound..take a look at that one.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Spluff on 09 May 2008, 18:22
Um, yeah, B-52s are metal amps. That is what they are supposed to sound like.

Recommending an MG100 is never a good move. Ever.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 09 May 2008, 20:41
You better take that back or Patrick will fight you.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Spluff on 09 May 2008, 21:35
If his MG sounds as good he claims, it's probably a different amp that somebody wrote 'mg' on.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 10 May 2008, 06:49
1. I HATE MGs
2. I saw a guy doing a blues gig with the B-52 Rectifier, it has good clean.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: king dan on 10 May 2008, 19:54
goddammit... didn't know MGs were the antichrist over here, calm the fuck down.
I just think they're better than the comparably shitty b-52s.
They both are pretty terrible if you ask me.

If you want my honest opinion, get a 2x12 of some sort (there's a decent and cheap fender 2X12 out there) if you want to spend less yet still get something better.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 11 May 2008, 18:38
goddammit... didn't know MGs were the antichrist over here, calm the fuck down.
I just think they're better than the comparably shitty b-52s.
They both are pretty terrible if you ask me.

If you want my honest opinion, get a 2x12 of some sort (there's a decent and cheap fender 2X12 out there) if you want to spend less yet still get something better.

ah i wasn't too much saying that in an angered voice. Sorry if i frightened you or something.
Alas, i need a good tube amp for not that much money.
And B-52s seem like my best bet =/.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 11 May 2008, 18:50
*Ahem.* (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-AC15CC1-Custom-Classic-1x12-Tube-Amp?sku=482625)

Seriously, you don't need 100 watts to be loud.  Especially tube watts.  I have played one of these, and they sound fantastic and can get pretty loud.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 11 May 2008, 19:06
I suppose you're right =/. what do you suggest then imapirate? Vox is up there of course, but what else?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: imapiratearg on 11 May 2008, 20:01
Well, I've only really had experience with Fender tube amps and that one Vox amp, there.  And Line 6 amps, but they are not worth mentioning.

Fender Hot Rod Deluxe amps (I have the slightly larger DeVille 410) have a very nice, rich clean tone and overdrive nicely with a stompbox, but the actual overdrive on the amps leave something to be desired.  They are also super-loud.

You could also look at Peavey amps.  I mean, they're pretty reputable.  I was looking at getting this (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-Windsor-HalfStack?sku=485059) for a while, but I couldn't play test it before I bought it, so I opted for something I could try beforehand.  This one also appears to be 120 watts.

Also, take a listen to some of the other musicians on here.  I am kind of a newb about guitar stuff.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Spluff on 11 May 2008, 22:59
Get a tiny terror.

Good god yes get a Tiny Terror.

I wholeheartedly recommend the Tiny Terror
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: king dan on 12 May 2008, 00:49
Quote

ah i wasn't too much saying that in an angered voice. Sorry if i frightened you or something.
Alas, i need a good tube amp for not that much money.
And B-52s seem like my best bet =/.

nah man I was mainly telling the other folks who furiously shat upon the fact that I mentioned the MG to chill, no worries.

imapirate suggested this before me,

but..something else I would recommend would be the Peavey Windsor.

During a recording session, I used a Windsor that the studio owned and quite liked it. It had a very balanced sound.

I use a Vox 2x12 currently, and it's perfect for me...a bit pricier though. Most people like Vox when it comes to tubes.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 12 May 2008, 07:09
Well, I've only really had experience with Fender tube amps and that one Vox amp, there.  And Line 6 amps, but they are not worth mentioning.

Fender Hot Rod Deluxe amps (I have the slightly larger DeVille 410) have a very nice, rich clean tone and overdrive nicely with a stompbox, but the actual overdrive on the amps leave something to be desired.  They are also super-loud.

You could also look at Peavey amps.  I mean, they're pretty reputable.  I was looking at getting this (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-Windsor-HalfStack?sku=485059) for a while, but I couldn't play test it before I bought it, so I opted for something I could try beforehand.  This one also appears to be 120 watts.

Also, take a listen to some of the other musicians on here.  I am kind of a newb about guitar stuff.

A kid i know has a Peavey Windsor, I'm not too fond of it. However, I really do like Peavey Amps.
My Lating teacher in school owns a valveking XD
Hurray for old dudes shredding.

I gotta say i like The Twin Reverb amps more than anything I've played.

And i agree Line 6 is complete and utter shittt.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 12 May 2008, 07:12
nah man I was mainly telling the other folks who furiously shat upon the fact that I mentioned the MG to chill, no worries.

imapirate suggested this before me,

but..something else I would recommend would be the Peavey Windsor.

During a recording session, I used a Windsor that the studio owned and quite liked it. It had a very balanced sound.

I use a Vox 2x12 currently, and it's perfect for me...a bit pricier though. Most people like Vox when it comes to tubes.

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Not too fond of the Windsor  :|

However who could resist the sound of a vox

something about those EL34s in it
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: valley_parade on 12 May 2008, 07:21
Crate's V Series are surprisingly good, and very inexpensive. I'm pining over the 2x12 18 watt combo right now.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 12 May 2008, 07:23
Crate's V Series are surprisingly good, and very inexpensive. I'm pining over the 2x12 18 watt combo right now.

Seeing as how everyone is telling me to try the tiny terror, i might go to this guitar shop by me that might have one.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: valley_parade on 12 May 2008, 09:15
I am completely jealous. No one around here sells Orange. At all.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 12 May 2008, 14:57
I am completely jealous. No one around here sells Orange. At all.

I was surprised.
Usually music shops and record shops suck around me.
i suppose it's a small shop that's like a hole in the wall.
Didn't get to go there today, but i may tomorrow.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: sean on 12 May 2008, 15:05
Shane move. A place that does not sell orange is not a place worth living.

Also Mr. Mojo no need to quote the post above you! It's a bit of a faux-pax here.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 12 May 2008, 15:10
Ah sorry. As you can see... I am but a worthless n00b  :cry:
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Ballard on 12 May 2008, 17:27
Man I live in New York and even I can't find an Orange dealer here. Closest I've come is Dan's Chelsea Guitars which had a few old, dusty heads and one cab with a broken speaker.

If I ever have the money, I'll just order my Tiny Terror from Humbucker Music (http://humbuckermusic.com/orange.html). Problem is, I can't find one anywhere to try out.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 12 May 2008, 17:51
What is everyone's opinion on the "Peavey Valve King"?
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Spluff on 12 May 2008, 23:24
I've heard that it's a decent beginner tube amp, but nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 13 May 2008, 14:21
all my attempts are so feeble in finding a good cheap amp
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: nigralovecadillac on 13 May 2008, 15:01
srs man, b-52 is a good choice and a great post, those fools can dick a suck
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 13 May 2008, 17:48
You're doing it wrong. Do not insult these people, they're just giving their opinions, which is exactly what i asked of them.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Ballard on 13 May 2008, 18:15
srs man, b-52 is a good choice and a great post, those fools can dick a suck

Dude, I suggest you lower your asshole level post-haste as well as find yourself a new avatar.
Title: Re: B-52 Amplifiers
Post by: Mr. Mojo on 13 May 2008, 18:17
More talky about amps please.