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Title: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 13:14
i myself am not hugely into metal, i mainly listen to a lot of Twee Pop and general Indie Rock
splitting off into a bunch of other things, but enough about that, but theres always room in my heart for cheesey metal.

especially like the band

TURISAS
finnish metal. Battle Metal to be correct. a bunch of finnish guys running around clan in viking outfits, singing about battles and viking life.
plus its metal with an accordian. really, theyre quite cheesey and over done by a lot. but one cannot help but loving.

anyone else got a soft spot for a cheesey metal band?
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: De_El on 09 Dec 2008, 13:15
I can't decide whether I want to be the guy who posts a giant picture of Manowar, or the guy who replies "Manowar is serious business."
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 13:17
I can't decide whether I want to be the guy who posts a giant picture of Manowar, or the guy who replies "Manowar is serious business."

either way itll be fantastic.
i mean they pulled off using the word "asunder" in a song. thats legit as cheesey metal goes.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 09 Dec 2008, 13:20
Turisas are pretty sweet, but if you haven't listened to Finntroll you must do it now because they are pretty much Turisas but better.

also Manowar.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2008, 13:47
Moar like Finnlol amirite? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3u86DPd7qc)
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Dec 2008, 13:49
I don't think Mastodon belong in here, but goddamn I love me some Mastodon.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Harun on 09 Dec 2008, 13:49
although they're not as cheesy: Eluveitie

they make me feel more like I'm at a metal Renaissance Festival than anything else
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 09 Dec 2008, 13:57
Finntroll is alot less cheesy if you listen to them while wandering through a rainforest, frying on mushrooms.

then it becomes serious business.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2008, 13:59
Wait, there's other ways to explain this?

(http://www.legrandmix.com/groupes/images/large/FINNTROLL_2.jpg)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: BlahBlah on 09 Dec 2008, 14:00
Looks pretty serious to me.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 14:32
god i would love to run into them while exploring Scandinavian forests! theyd probably have great stories of being at a great hall drinking mead and stuff.
i want to be their bestfriends.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Dimmukane on 09 Dec 2008, 14:54
Turisas and Finntroll ain't cheesy.  Rhapsody, Symphony X, Dragonforce, etc., that's cheesy.  Turisas are just fuckin' rad.  You don't like them ironically like you do the others.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 14:58
do people actually listen to symphony x seriously? i've never met anyone that does
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 09 Dec 2008, 15:38
I'm a huge Belle& Sebastian/ Damien Rice inde-type fan but I can't help but love the over-melodious, screaming crazy vocal style of German metal band Knorkator
Anyone else heard their music?
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: sean on 09 Dec 2008, 16:05
Blind Guardian OOOOOOH YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: jimbunny on 09 Dec 2008, 16:59
Devin Townsend's career.

Seriously. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyVuheZx4BQ)

Except that, in addition to being cheesy, it is also awesome.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 09 Dec 2008, 17:08
Wait, there's other ways to explain this?

[picture of ridiculous lookin dudes]

you s'pose these guys go to get their keys copied dressed like that?  Like, they're standing around awkwardly while the guy is grinding the new key,  while they pretend to look at stuff to buy?
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Katherine on 09 Dec 2008, 17:09
Man, Devin Townsend is one ugly son of a bitch but I love his music.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Spluff on 09 Dec 2008, 17:09
Turisas are pretty sweet, but if you haven't listened to Finntroll you must do it now because they are pretty much Turisas but better.

Man, Finntroll are just Turisas without the accordion.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 09 Dec 2008, 17:13
Finntroll have an accordian
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Spluff on 09 Dec 2008, 17:16
what

I thought that was just keyboard with an accordion-esque preset. Actually, I'm pretty sure it is.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 09 Dec 2008, 17:21
in that video that was posted, yeah. but mostly i think he plays an accordian. if you watch live videos, there is often (if not always) an accordian present.

and they did it before Turisas.  :-D </smugness>
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 18:07
ive always known it as keys with an accordion setting. but. i could be wrong never seen them live or a live video.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Nodaisho on 09 Dec 2008, 18:07
How about Falconer? Most noticeable at the beginning of the title track of Northwind.

Oh, and everything Graveyard BBQ does is pretty much the definition of cheesy.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Spluff on 09 Dec 2008, 18:22
Diablo Swing Orchestra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad-l54T_kYY) is pretty cheesy, but unbelievably awesome.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Harun on 09 Dec 2008, 18:58
also: all black metal

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7590/n2tj7.jpg)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2008, 19:36
Hahaha, the one on the right is using a garden hose attachment as a weapon.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Inlander on 09 Dec 2008, 19:42
80s hair metal is the only true music.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: MadassAlex on 09 Dec 2008, 21:23
Blind Guardian OOOOOOH YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Be my friend.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Uber Ritter on 09 Dec 2008, 22:03
Rhapsody does cheesy power metal better than about anyone I've heard.  Though some Blind Guardian is quite excellent.

And to be fair, black metal dudes haven't worn corpsepaint much since the early 90's, iirc, at least in Norway (Immortal accepted).

Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Nodaisho on 09 Dec 2008, 22:19
At least some bands today still do it, at least for pictures. All of the ones I have seen are ones I had never heard of though. Excepting that one band, what were they? All of them were young, really fat kid singing, female guitarist, seemed to be a parody of black metal? Hard to tell on that last bit, though. Sometimes I wonder if all the black metal elitism is one huge joke, tongue held firmly in corpse-painted cheeck.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2008, 22:27
I'm almost certain it is. If not entirely, then it's certainly laced with plenty of theatrics.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 22:30
but isnt every genre?
the metal genre is just more humourous when analyzing it.
because everything with them is so over the top and absurd theatrics.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2008, 22:33
I don't mean stage presence and entertainment and the like. I mean over-the-top circus theatrics. Most contemporary metal considers itself serious business, but Norwegian Black Metal is almost like /b/ in it's ironic ridiculousness.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Hat on 09 Dec 2008, 22:35
do people actually listen to symphony x seriously? i've never met anyone that does

Yo.

And while it technically classifies as cock rock, if we can slot it into hair-metal, I fucking LOVE me some Motley Crue. Also, Helloween.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 09 Dec 2008, 22:39
i guess in that sense yes, but the band that takes the cake on that is definitely GWAR by far. in over the top theatric metal. haha
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Harun on 09 Dec 2008, 23:33
you have never lived if you have never been to a GWAR show

<---  seen them three times
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: tigrar on 09 Dec 2008, 23:53
I'm jealous. I had to miss GWAR last night because of a Microbiology final.  Alestorm is epic. Scottish Pirate Metal.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: MadassAlex on 09 Dec 2008, 23:59
Rhapsody does cheesy power metal better than about anyone I've heard.  Though some Blind Guardian is quite excellent.

Man, what. Blind Guardian is the best power metal that isn't Persuader. And Persuader are basically just an improvement on Blind Guardian.

But I guess BG are less cheesy than Rhapsody, so qualify less for this thread.

i guess in that sense yes, but the band that takes the cake on that is definitely GWAR by far. in over the top theatric metal. haha

GWAR's music resembles punky hard rock more than metal, really.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Patrick on 10 Dec 2008, 00:00
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7590/n2tj7.jpg)

Today, I ignore the "quoting pictures" rule because this is worth seeing twice on one page.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Dec 2008, 01:44
That's from a well-known series of pictures with those dudes baking cookies or vacuuming and such. Oh, here it is:

http://www.unwesen.de/v/Humour/Black+Metal+ist+Krieg.html (http://www.unwesen.de/v/Humour/Black+Metal+ist+Krieg.html)

Black metal isn't a joke. Not much metal is. It's self-aware, but not as such a joke. Part of the thing about metal is that it should be possible to either take it completely seriously, or not at all seriously. Often both at the same time. It doesn't really operate in the same way as twee and all that crap. It's more like camp, I suppose.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Dec 2008, 02:09
Fight hard
Live fast
Play loud
Step out of the crowd
Iron
Rulin'
Steel bent
Forever the faith will live on in our hearts
There's nothing else in all the world
That will bring it down
We will play our wildest step to all around
We need it as a liquid in our veins instead of blood
Power
Burnin'
Brains out
United metallians ready to strike
White heat
Red hot
Mayhem
If you don't feel it you won't understand
There's nothing else in all the world
That will bring it down
We will play our wildest step to all around
We need it as a liquid in our veins instead of blood
Chorus
Heavy Metal is the law that keeps us all united free
A law that shatters earth and hell
Heavy Metal can't be beaten by any dynasty
We're all wizards fightin' with our spell (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=seyWohFBab4)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Dollface on 10 Dec 2008, 02:25
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/N_Nealer/BLACKDEATHphoto.jpg)

And some music (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=NqteDk15Ud8)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2008, 03:48
I can't decide whether I want to be the guy who posts a giant picture of Manowar, or the guy who replies "Manowar is serious business."

either way itll be fantastic.
i mean they pulled off using the word "asunder" in a song. thats legit as cheesey metal goes.

So did Borknagar.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 10 Dec 2008, 08:36
 LETS PLAY A GAME:

(http://www.icedtears.com/musica/fotos/823.jpg)

3 of the 4 are the same..which one doesnt belong?
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 10 Dec 2008, 11:02
it's time, once again, for the greatest band (http://www.myspace.com/iotmsbod) of all time (and no, it's not Complete).
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Dec 2008, 12:21
electronica/powerpop/black metal... never thought I would read that.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 10 Dec 2008, 14:39
you're welcome.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: RedLion on 10 Dec 2008, 15:11
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.

Also Dream Theater (although I continue to argue that they are a legitimately 'good' band.)
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Post by: MadassAlex on 10 Dec 2008, 16:58
Wait, is there genuinely some kind of asshole social condition here that implies that "cheesy" music is less worthy than "serious" music? Because I thought that was all a joke.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 10 Dec 2008, 17:43
Wait, is there genuinely some kind of asshole social condition here that implies that "cheesy" music is less worthy than "serious" music? Because I thought that was all a joke.

i think that many indie fans (like those who make up most of the userbase of this forum, although i'm by no means saying that all the users here are necessarily like this) dismiss metal as some kind of joke.  personally it seems to me that a lot of the current indie bands suffer from a complete lack of enthusiasm and passion.  i've seen videos of several of the bands that are being thrown around in the best of 2008 thread (one that stuck out was MGMT) where they're playing like they couldn't give a shit and would rather be somewhere else (hell, i even read an article a while back about this very subject, so someone agrees with me).

compare that to the likes of, say, devin townsend (who's already been mentioned).  his stuff with strapping young lad is incredibly heavy, both musically and emotionally (the "alien" album sounds like a guy falling apart), but he's not afraid to throw in a bit of humour either.  and his solo stuff runs the gamut from pop-rock numbers to huge atmospheric pieces (seriously, "terria" is a fucking monolithically huge album), all with a similarly passionate delivery.  live, he's just as intense, but also entertaining and funny.  sadly however, there's always going to some people who'll see the "vampira" video and their only thought regarding devin would be "awww look at the funny man with his funny music!  now, where are my twee indie-pop albums..."


it comes down to the whole "liking something ironically" issue.  in that if you like a song, band, or even whole genre ironically, you're essentially pretending to like it in an effort to boast about your range of tastes, whilst simultanously belittling it and trying to appear like you're somehow above it.  at the end of the day, there could be a million reasons why you like or a dislike a particular song/band/genre, but the bottom line is you either like it or you don't. 
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 10 Dec 2008, 18:32
now dont me wrong i do listen to a lot of tweepop.
but, i do take my metal seriously. i honestly do love Turisas, and i love Necrophagist and into eternity, and suffocation, lamb of god, finntroll all of them.
i really do, i think theyre all FANTASTIC musicians and i love the music, the energy and the effort and time they put into the music
it is really fantastic. so respectable and just bad ass. but i just think its a silly, when they dress up like vikings. its pretty sweet, just silly.
and i dont like that stuff ironically. before i got intoo indie pop, i was really big into metal, i just needed something more mellow, but necrophagist is one of my most listened to bands. and for the record i do have every manowar cd and have listened to each one atleast 3 times. because, its actually good music.
just a little bit cheesey, but since when has cheese ever stopped someone from doing something awesome?
i think its awesome, techinical, skillfull, yet slightly silly when bands go over the top and dress up like vikings and play viking music. turisas' music is fucking phenomenal i just think the whole viking costume thing is slightly silly. thats all.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 10 Dec 2008, 18:33
Rhapsody does cheesy power metal better than about anyone I've heard.  Though some Blind Guardian is quite excellent.

Man, what. Blind Guardian is the best power metal that isn't Persuader. And Persuader are basically just an improvement on Blind Guardian.

But I guess BG are less cheesy than Rhapsody, so qualify less for this thread.

i guess in that sense yes, but the band that takes the cake on that is definitely GWAR by far. in over the top theatric metal. haha

GWAR's music resembles punky hard rock more than metal, really.

i would agree with the statement that gwar is definitely more punk rock then metal. i just ahd over-the-top theatrics on my mind and the first band i think of when i think of that is GWAR. but definitely more punk than metal
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: D on 10 Dec 2008, 18:42
My favorite "cheesy" band is probably Machinae Supremacy. They're basically video game nerds playing power/pop metal. Corny, but so catchy.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Dimmukane on 10 Dec 2008, 18:47
i think that many indie fans (like those who make up most of the userbase of this forum, although i'm by no means saying that all the users here are necessarily like this) dismiss metal as some kind of joke. 

You haven't been on these boards very long, so I'll let that slide.


A lot of us do.  The ones who do the most talking about music are usually the least into it.  But yeah, we do like a lot of metal, we just try to avoid dickery threads about it because metal makes people confrontational and thus we don't bring it up a whole lot.  There was a small shitstorm a while back over whether or not Mastodon were any good and/or metal. 
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Dec 2008, 03:01
(the "alien" album sounds like a guy falling apart)

Because it was. The dude took himself off of his medication for bi-polar syndrome, and preceded to write that album. Fuckin' hell Devy.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 12 Dec 2008, 03:13
(the "alien" album sounds like a guy falling apart)

Because it was. The dude took himself off of his medication for bi-polar syndrome, and preceded to write that album. Fuckin' hell Devy.

now THAT's dedication to your art!!!  it's also probably tied for best SYL album (with "City").
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: MadassAlex on 12 Dec 2008, 06:44
A lot of us do.  The ones who do the most talking about music are usually the least into it.  But yeah, we do like a lot of metal, we just try to avoid dickery threads about it because metal makes people confrontational and thus we don't bring it up a whole lot.  There was a small shitstorm a while back over whether or not Mastodon were any good and/or metal. 

Yes/yes
  /
 :-D
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Dimmukane on 12 Dec 2008, 07:27
I was also on that side of the argument.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: lepeste on 12 Dec 2008, 08:50
any band that can write an album like Leviathan. desereves to be considered one of the best bands ever. especially since ya know...its about Moby Dick
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Albatron on 12 Dec 2008, 09:06
Hey, other bands play, Manowar kills
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5oc3fZWs0ME (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5oc3fZWs0ME)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Nodaisho on 12 Dec 2008, 09:07
Actually, I believe you mean other bands play, Burzum kills. (okay, technically it was Varg, but he was the only one in the band anyway).
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Dimmukane on 12 Dec 2008, 09:21
I wrote an album about My Dick. It's only two letters off. Does that still count?

Well, Anal Cunt does that all the time.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: unwesen on 13 Jan 2009, 09:58
@KharBevNor

Funny how things turn around. I've been a reader (and linker-to) of QC for a few years, and now this forum drives a noticeable amount of traffic to my website. Sad that it's for a few funny Black Metal I that I didn't make in the first place - I just tried to save them for posterity. That's life for you :D
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: n0tj3sus on 13 Jan 2009, 16:58
I listen to a lot of folk music these days but here are a few metal bands my life just would not be complete without;
Dio
cock an ball torture
dimmu borgir
now thats what im talking about.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: You Are Brahman! on 13 Jan 2009, 18:28
I'm a huge Belle& Sebastian/ Damien Rice inde-type fan but I can't help but love the over-melodious, screaming crazy vocal style of German metal band Knorkator
Anyone else heard their music?

HAHAHA.  Have you watched their videos?   I can't stand them, personally.  I spent a while listening solely to Deutsche Musik.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 14 Jan 2009, 17:11

HAHAHA.  Have you watched their videos?   I can't stand them, personally.  I spent a while listening solely to Deutsche Musik.

Shun the non-believer



Shun
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Jan 2009, 22:02
Dio

Dio

Dio
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Harun on 15 Jan 2009, 00:06
King Diamond/ Mercyful Fate
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Soidanae on 15 Jan 2009, 07:08
I unwittingly heard Dio the other day.  VH1 classic.

Rainbow in the Night.

The most epically gay song ever.

It is also stuck in my head like crazy. 
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Jan 2009, 10:19
Rainbow in the dark.

And I am sure there are plenty of songs that are more gay. Just about everything the village people did, for instance.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 15 Jan 2009, 11:38
King Diamond

NO presents for CHRISTMAAAAAA-AAAAASS!!!!!!!!!


King Diamond rules.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Ballard on 15 Jan 2009, 18:06
I unwittingly heard Dio the other day.  VH1 classic.

Rainbow in the Night.

The most epically gay song ever.

It is also stuck in my head like crazy. 


Ronnie will fight you.

(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/ronnie-james-dio-tenacious-d-in-the-pick-of-destiny-los-angeles-premiere-vePEJH.jpg)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 16 Jan 2009, 09:55
i feel a little perspective is needed here. 

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8803/diocatml1.png)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Freddybear on 16 Jan 2009, 17:36
Nobody mentioned Lordi yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BoXu2xR0g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BoXu2xR0g)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdItwaLrv1U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdItwaLrv1U)
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Albatron on 17 Jan 2009, 01:37
I'd much rather watch (hear?) Dio's wrinkled ass than that trash.
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: n0tj3sus on 17 Jan 2009, 09:50
I'd much rather watch (hear?) Dio's wrinkled ass than that trash.
Yeah, I would like to watch Dio's wrinkled ass as well...
Title: Re: cheesey metal that you can't help but loving
Post by: Stalfos on 18 Jan 2009, 04:34
The Lord Weird Slough Feg are the best cheesy metal band ever.

Here's why. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHpfugCboI)