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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: sieckanddestroy on 08 Feb 2009, 10:51
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The most elite of weeks.
So will we see the consequences of this most recent Svenscapade? Will I be banned for that ridiculous word? And will Pintsize be given comic 1337 to destroy the world?
...only time shall tell!
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The most elite of weeks.
So will we see the consequences of this most recent Svenscapade? Will I be banned for that ridiculous word? And will Pintsize be given comic 1337 to destroy the world?
...only time shall tell!
Ban you? If it was up to me, I'd give you a medal. Best made-up word using QC character names since Fangus. Who was that genius, anyway?
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Ban you? What...what would I do without you? Go back to trolling 4chan? No... no, you...complete...me...
Fix'd.
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I'm wondering if - and WHEN - Faye finds out are we going to see the return of the Fayeminator
That is of course if Dornan The Destroyer doesn't get him first.
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Also people expecting an immediate resolution of Friday's strip are gonna HAAAAATE MEEEEEE AAAHAHAHAH
But that doesn't mean that it's not going to be addressed, now, is it? As long as the storyline progresses, we promise not to bring pitchforks and torches to your doorstep. :lol:
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Bah. Want plot.
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Well that, or titties.
Either is good, really.
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Mr. Jacques, tear down this bra!
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Jeph, you are just using twitter to tease us aren't you?
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I'm content to wait while Sven stews in the juices of his own making.
Just as long as he's wearing Hanners' bio-hazard suit.
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I'm choosing to assume he means he's going junk this lameness altogether in favor of bringing Steve back.
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I'm content to wait while Sven stews in the juices of his own making.
That's just filthy. :roll:
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I'm choosing to assume he means he's going junk this lameness altogether in favor of bringing Steve back.
Yes. Comic always needs more Steve.
Still trying to figure out why we don't get more of him. He's interesting, and one of the few male characters.
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Ban you? What...what would I do without you? Go back to trolling 4chan? No... no, you...complete...me...
Fix'd.
hahahahaha WIN. Well done sir.
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Is it just me, or is he paying awfully little attention to the actions he's performing, compared to what any philandering bastard would? He he supposed to be proud of his performance? He's being lazy, and his hands are useless except to block our eyes from the pron that we all know will never happen, but sometimes wish would.
I just expected Sven to be more of a playboy then this. Why does faye even keep coming back, if thats his best. And letting her do all the work? OK, so ten out of ten for good thinking, but minus several million for style, yeah?
Also, Wyr points for who gets that last sentences butchering.
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Wyr - He's drunk. He's just "Going along with the ride." :roll:
Anyways. Muffins and shit. Whoo.
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And, hey, it at least foreshadows into the EPIC SHOWDOWN. (Or just their "relationship" fizzling out.)
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Ick. Disgusting. ICK.
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CoS to CoD
Faye, the evil Muffin Demon.
Now for the proverbial to hit the fan.
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OK, so ten out of ten for good thinking, but minus several million for style, yeah?
Also, Wyr points for who gets that last sentences butchering.
Thank you, Zaphod Beeblebrox.
also:
I don't wanna mix...whatever Sven and I are with my regular social life
YOU'RE KILLING INDEPENDENT GEORGE!!!
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Why is Faye wearing two jackets?
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Because it's winter now.
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I don't wanna mix...whatever Sven and I are with my regular social life
YOU'RE KILLING INDEPENDENT GEORGE!!!
Well done, Badum! And in that spirit, and considering the stark differences between this comic and Friday's... "No tits for you!"
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i hate female poop jokes. ew.
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I find myself simultaneously pleased Dora, Faye, and Marten have strengthened their bond and Completely Freaked that anyone would eat while on or within two feet of the pot. Thank you so much, Jeph, for that image. :-o
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pooping and eating is no good at all. Eating in the shower is where it's at though.
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tbh you can't really escape eating poo whilst on the loo,
in the sense that microscopic poo molecules are floating around being inhaled through your nose or worse directly landing on your tongue...
:|
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Shitting whilst eating, showering whilst shitting, eating whilst showering
Massive food shower shit orgy, people!
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I'm content to wait while Sven stews in the juices of his own making.
That's just filthy. :roll:
And then I'm trumped by Faye...
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QC is gradually turning more and more into Anders Loves Maria - pretty soon there's gonna be sexy parts being flashed all over the place! Every strip will look like this! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1195)
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And now we build up to Sven's revalation to Faye with innocuous strips - then rocks fall - everybody dies.
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But what I really want to know is what the fuck is that guy doing in (http://anderslovesmaria.reneengstrom.com/) Anders Loves Maria? And by that guy I mean Mitch Clem (http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/128/).
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One thing.
Dora looks really great in this comic.
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Eating in the shower is where it's at though.
I beg to differ. Drinking Beer in the shower is quintessentially the proverbial cats pajamas.
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Eating in the shower is where it's at though.
I beg to differ. Drinking Beer in the shower is quintessentially the proverbial cats pajamas.
Shit man, goes without saying.
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Wait, is that Sweet Tits in the background of the A<3M guest comic?
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Does everyone agree that today's comic is brilliant, nay inspired?
Muffin Cthulhu, ha!
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Now if Faye could just move to dropping the muffin straight into the toilet without acting as middle woman, she'd be free of the wonderful lusciousness that she complains about so much.
Mythbusters already proved that poo is everywhere, so what's the difference if you eat in the bathroom or eat in the kitchen?
I like this comic because it sets up what parameters Faye has for her relationship or whatever it is with Sven. Saying she doesn't want him in her social life is something of an insult and it seems like she's ashamed of what she's doing, although everyone else seems relatively cool with it.
More Faye Issues. If discovery takes place, this just makes it all the more drama filled.
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With Faye, though, I'm not sure what she says is what she really feels. In other words, the lady doth protest too much. Unfortunately, it's also hard to say that she doesn't feel the way she says she does. I suspect the former, but can't provide proof.
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Mojo -- bingo! There is no knowing with Faye. Even when she does something, you can't be sure.
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Today's comic feels like the calm before the storm.
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i hate female poop jokes. ew.
Chicks making poop jokes is cool by me, as long as they're not doing it to put up an emotional repulsor field, coz that's lame. Faye does just fine pushing undesired people away without being passive agressive. And besides, if nothing else, making gross jokes makes women seem more down-to-earth.
(also, IN B4 Page 2! WOOT!)
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I LOVE Dora's face in the last frame. The look of pure disgust. :lol:
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i hate female poop jokes. ew.
Whereas male poop jokes are totally OK.
Also, congrats to Norton for discerning the...true meaning of my previous statement.
*maniacal laugh*
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People wear jackets over hoodies?
I'm baffled by this.
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So am I, but I'm the crazy guy that wears a hoodie over a t-shirt in 0 F weather, and isn't even really all that cold. I do know people that wear three+ layers just to go outside in 32 F weather, two of them being very warm, and think THEY'RE the crazy ones. :P
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Does Sven shave? He's body is completly bald which is bit weird for a guy of italian descent.
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Jeph, that comic was extremely nasty. But we can't prosecute you for that. Agreed?
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badbum61, ten Wyr points.
Also, I can't wait to see Faye come out of the bathroom with a muffin left saying "oh, I was fuller then I thought", hanners coming in, and going "ooo, muffin!" and glomphing it.
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badbum61, ten Wyr points.
Also, I can't wait to see Faye come out of the bathroom with a muffin left saying "oh, I was fuller then I thought", hanners coming in, and going "ooo, muffin!" and glomphing it.
that would be awesome!!
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Wait, what? This forum got moved to fossilization?
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Whoa, forums change for anyone else there?
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No, just you.
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Aw, so my mom was right: I experience exceedingly obscure hallucinations.
And that I'm fat.
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Why does it seem that Jeph keeps making us want to focus on Faye's boobs?
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Eating in the shower is where it's at though.
I beg to differ. Drinking Beer in the shower is quintessentially the proverbial cats pajamas.
The only reason I take a shower is so I can drink a showerbeer.
...Anyone? Anyone?
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Heh that got a giggle outta me for some reason.
I like this comic,everyone is happy and smiling.
yay!
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Yes, everyone is happy now, they don't see the hideous monster that is hiding around the corner.
Then it's Destruction, Devastation, and Defenestration!!! (dun-dun-DUUNNN)
(It is nice to see Faye in a good mood)
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Eating in the shower is where it's at though.
I beg to differ. Drinking Beer in the shower is quintessentially the proverbial cats pajamas.
The only reason I take a shower is so I can drink a showerbeer.
...Anyone? Anyone?
Well... I do not like beer as it tastes like feet (and before anyone tries, yes I have tasted feet) but basically eating, drinking, sitting down in the shower is most joyous. I only take a shower to escape from people. Oh, and to have a massage from the incredibly strong power of the water jets in my shower. Mmmmm...
Oooh, sorry. Was miles away. The current situation just reminds me of when I was in school and I was going to get a test back and had no idea how I did. You do not want to know, but you also want to just in case it turns out great... Though I am predicting a Fayesplosion.
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I predict that Dora will take her brother's side, and that will make things even crazier. Seriously, bros before hos.
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How does that work when your bro' IS the 'ho'?
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yay, (literal) potty humor! I like it.
I refuse to acknowledge the sense of impending doom I feel when I think about what Faye will do when she finds out. I mean, maybe she won't freak out...you never know...she could surprise us?
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Yeah, and Hanners might walk up to Tai and give her a big wet kiss...
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I am so ridiculously torn. It really seems the comics are going back to what the used to be, and I love it!
But, damnit, I want to know what happens next with Sven and Faye!!!!!!!
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Every day that goes by without this being resolved only increases the anticipation.
When the inevitable confrontation takes place, the longer it has been, the more fireworks.
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and then mr. jacques lets us all down with another cliffhanger, laughing in our faces...oh SHI-
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All together now, 1 2 3 SING
Blame Canada ........
:D
Oh, and Jeph, damn you for leaving us hanging like this!!!!! :x
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So close to comic numer 1337!
I'm personally expecting a World of Warcraft machinima. Or maybe just Faye hitting Sven for a CRITICAL HIT!!!!!!
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Meh. I wont be surprised if theres not going much to happen about it. After all, Faye KNOWS Sven is ... well ... she knows what he is. Even if she somehow tries not to admit it.
Thinking of it, what happened to her theraphy ?
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Nostalgia coincidence! Yesterday I dug out my recording of the only time my son performed Liszt's piano arrangement of Beethoven's 5th Symphony, nearly twelve years ago. It didn't make me think of Canada, though.
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funny how last week was all drama and this week it all seems sumwat superficial in comparison
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Yeah! Just like life.
S
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But still funny.
Seriously, does no one lock the doors? People just seem to be walking in and out.
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If anybody is looking for Canada in classical music, Mozart is good. The beginning of Act II of The Magic Flute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Flute) ('March of the Priests') sounds a lot like the opening of 'O Canada'. If you're going to steal, steal from the best. Also, in Cosi Fan Tutte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosi_Fan_Tutte) (also by Mozart), two of the male characters sing "You won't find two better guys if you look from here to Canada!"
Rossini has a character in his opera La Cambiale di Matrimonio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cambiale_di_Matrimonio) who is actually from Canada-- he's a cloddish dolt who has contracted to marry the heroine. Naturally, the hero and heroine are able to circumvent this, and all ends happily.
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Seriously, does no one lock the doors? People just seem to be walking in and out.
Hanners is so skinny she just slips under the door. :-P
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I hope tomorrow is another AnthroPC comic, purely because of its number. :lol:
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Why would Marten lock the door if he's just inside?
And I bet Jeph (of "Jeff" as most forumites seem to know him as) is planning to everything but an anthroPC strip tomorrow just to go "lol they were expecting an AnthroPC strip tomorrow"
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Yeah, and Hanners might walk up to Tai and give her a big wet kiss...
..... na that would be just too out of character for hanners.
Seriously, does no one lock the doors? People just seem to be walking in and out.
Hanners is so skinny she just slips under the door. :-P
Hanners is a pro at limbo.
and skinny girls are best.
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and skinny girls are best.
I prefer girls I can't snap in half by breathing on them too hard.
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and skinny girls are best.
I prefer girls I can't snap in half by breathing on them too hard.
I thought you were a nerd like the rest of us.
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Breaking girls in half with breath now makes you a nerd?
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Breaking girls in half with breath now makes you a nerd?
no no no
by he being able to do what means that he is most likely to be a weight lifter or a hefty man. nerd breath would only tickle hanners but hefty man breath would harm her.
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New T-shirts! Awesome.
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I thought you were a nerd like the rest of us.
I am a nerd trapped in the body of a football player.
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Is Marten one of those indie fans who listens to something for a week while it's being hyped then never listens to it again?
If you're only interested in music as long it's currently being talked about, you have to ask yourself if it's really the music that you like.
Hasn't Faye specifically insisted that her thing with Sven is strictly sex and not a relationship? Sven is obviously well aware Faye would be pissed, but he's not cheating. He hasn't made any commitment to break.
If Faye wanted a relationship with Sven he might even agree to it. He'd probably still cheat after enough time for it to take to start boring him, of course.
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As opposed to those indie fans who listen to to something until it starts being talked about, then will never listen to it again because it's too mainstream?
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Music I think is a matter or personal taste and what it sometimes means to the person listening to it.
Me, I kinda picked up a slight love of My Immotal lately - Mainly 'cause of this AMV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N26mo7PD51A
Been parusing the Anime Strawberry Panic on YouTube the past month or so, and I though this suited the Shizuma/Kaori relationship quite well.
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I was just imagining the conversation if Sven had tried to say no to Gina.
"Well, you see there's this girl who doesn't like me very much that I'm having sex with, and if she found out we hooked up, she'd cut me off."
Regarding the new strip, didn't Marten go to college in California? I can't find the reference strip for that, so I might be wrong and it's no big deal, but if so, the "melting snow" reference gets rather difficult to explain.
EDIT: Thank you, pwhodges, for the links. So yeah, unless he went for long winter drives up into the mountains... I don't really see him as much of a skiier/boarder, tho.
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Where he's from: 253 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253).
What he studied: 276 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=276).
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How do you manage to find things so damn quickly in the strip?
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Up to the early 800s, a carefully chosen keyword into this (http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?comic=32) is helpful. After that, I look at pages of largish thumbnails if I think I can remember the appearance of a strip.
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*tries*
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No way that kicks so much ass
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Pwhodges, you are a lifesaver.
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Huh. Here I was thinking pwhodges was some kind of robit.
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Paul is the comic. The pure personification of Questionable Content
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Didn't Marten move to MA from CA? Where'd the snow come from? Or am I mistaken?
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They do have mountains in California, and it snows up there...
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But it never rains in Southern California.
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The coldest Winter I's ever spent was a Summer in San Francisco. - Some Old Dude.
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But it never rains in Southern California.
But it pours, man it pours.
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Hey, I got three feet of snow, and they're predicting 5 more…
Of course, I live in the San Bernadino Mts.
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totally less than three the new comic.
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WFT is b==d~~~???
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no no.
B====D~~
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WFT is b==d~~~???
Can't help you, as I barely can understand leetspeak myself. I also failed to understand the meaning of today's comic title. :?
I did get the last panel though. And I really like Hannelore's shirt. :-)
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Would someone translate the title for us illiterati?
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I think it means "You Asked For It".
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j00 4s|<3d 4 17 = You asked for it
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Yes, please. I'm too old to understand leet. And my usual go-to friend who translates it doesn't seem to be online, since he and his wife have small children and it's 1am on the East coast. And what's b===d~~?
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j00 4s|<3d 4 17 = You asked for it
Now that I know it's there, I can see it.
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Some peope (teenagers) obviously have a hell of a lot more time to screw around with making their texts/ims obscure than I do.
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And what's b===d~~?
It's usually spelled B===D~~~
It' more of a visual pun than a word.
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(ahem) Points to first post in thread.
CALLED IT.
(Well, he didn't destroy the world, but he sorta dented the fourth wall...:-D)
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Sometimes it's done in a more... graphic... manner.
Like this:
B==D
B=#D
B#=D
B=#D
B==D~~~
(with each line being one frame of an "animation.")
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(ahem) Points to first post in thread.
CALLED IT.
Banned for "Svenscapade"?
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I had to type this out in notepad to get it.
How embarrassing.
For those who don't get what pintsize is saying:
its a penis B===D~~~ :wink:
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Looking at the previous interlude made me miss steve :(
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That's two titles in a row I don't get. I barely grok Leet speak, and it's beyond me why yesterday's comic is named Canastesia. Beethoven's Fifth is many things, but sleep-inducing isn't one of 'em.
Still, I was glad to see Marten 'splaining the midnight sigh from a week or so back, although he seems to have reached that point a tad early in liiiiiiffffffeeeee.......
Sorry. Overbalanced and fell in my casket-hole.
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I had to type this out in notepad to get it.
How embarrassing.
Not quite as embarrassing as missing the 3 posts above explaining the same thing. :wink:
@ Raoul: Canasthesia is a play on synesthesia, where the senses get mixed up, for example, hearing colors or tasting music. Hannelore's geographical neurons fire to classical I guess.
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That's two titles in a row I don't get. I barely grok Leet speak, and it's beyond me why yesterday's comic is named Canastesia. Beethoven's Fifth is many things, but sleep-inducing isn't one of 'em.
Still, I was glad to see Marten 'splaining the midnight sigh from a week or so back, although he seems to have reached that point a tad early in liiiiiiffffffeeeee.......
Sorry. Overbalanced and fell in my casket-hole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia)
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Seriously, why did nobody sp33k some decent l33t here yet? They can't because they actually speak, but last time I checked we are writing down stuff here.
][ |v| \/3|2y |)!55@|°|°01/\/']['3d !/\/ j00. T~T
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Maybe because it's not 2004 anymore and we're all (slightly) mature adults.
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But it never rains in Southern California.
But it's always sunny in Philadelphia.
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Seriously, why did nobody sp33k some decent l33t here yet? They can't because they actually speak, but last time I checked we are writing down stuff here.
][ |v| \/3|2y |)!55@|°|°01/\/']['3d !/\/ j00. T~T
Perhaps so that we can all understand.
I'm just saying.
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LOL awesome
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Maybe because it's not 2004 anymore and we're all (slightly) mature adults.
Huh. Didn't know leetspeak was at its prime in 2004.
The more you know..
Danke Internetz!
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We've had 666, now 1337. I wonder when the next interlude comic will be? 2011?
I didn't get the whole emote-cock thing either until I looked it up, back when Marten was using it on Twitter. Urban Dictionary is a lifesaver. xD
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We've had 666, now 1337. I wonder when the next interlude comic will be? 2011?
I, for one, would like to see a 2099 QC comic interlude. EXTREEM!
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I am totally not into twitter. I've got an account but barely use it.
I mean seriously. 140 characters or less? Screw that.
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Seriously, why did nobody sp33k some decent l33t here yet? They can't because they actually speak, but last time I checked we are writing down stuff here.
][ |v| \/3|2y |)!55@|°|°01/\/']['3d !/\/ j00. T~T
My curiosity getting the better of me i used wikipedia to check this out then read the article. WTF people?! I mean, nobody uses it here, thank god, but why in the hell would you use that?
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Because it was once 2004 and we were once not (slightly) mature adults.
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And because some people get off on communicating with a select group in such a way as those outside that group haven't a clue as to what they're saying, although sometimes with unintentional results. I took a look at (don't ask why) a site comparing Beyonce to Rihanna* the other day, and it was rather shocking. I only grokked about a third of it. The problem is, if I didn't know better, I'd say the reason for my incomprehension was that everyone posting was mildly retarded and had been locked in an institution together for many, many years. At least Leet looks as though the computer's screwed the text some way (Headwoünd's text looks shockingly similar to some of the mishmash generated when I try to open a MSworks file in Nisus), rather than the poster.
*So I dig "Disturbia". So sue me.
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Slightly off-topic, but related to other WCT posts:
Marten's turn to clean up the blood. Literally. (http://twitter.com/martenreed/status/1200166179 (http://twitter.com/martenreed/status/1200166179))
Now the question remains: even though they *are* written by Jeph, are the character Twitters canon?
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It just worries me a little with the state of adult literacy in the UK and USA currently. Its higher in some of the supposedly 'undeveloped' countries of the world.
Also, i teach part time at a secondary school and partly thanks to text language and this leetspeak (or bullshit as i prefer to call it) a lot of the kids can't even spell properly. I know its not the be all and end all but it kinda worries me for the future of these people.
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Slightly off-topic, but related to other WCT posts:
Marten's turn to clean up the blood. Literally. (http://twitter.com/martenreed/status/1200166179 (http://twitter.com/martenreed/status/1200166179))
Now the question remains: even though they *are* written by Jeph, are the character Twitters canon?
That was the final straw, I just caught up and started following the twitters of Dora, Sven, Marten, Pizza Girl and Faye. But not Pintsize. Fuck you, Pintsize.
(Does Winslow have one?)
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Slightly off-topic, but related to other WCT posts:
Marten's turn to clean up the blood. Literally. (http://twitter.com/martenreed/status/1200166179 (http://twitter.com/martenreed/status/1200166179))
Now the question remains: even though they *are* written by Jeph, are the character Twitters canon?
Yes they are. And he created Yelling Bird last night and had a good old laugh insulting his followers at Twitter. He has used Twitter to start a story before
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*So I dig "Disturbia". So sue me.
I like "Disturbia". :-D
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Rear Window is far superior to Disturbia.
And fun. Sven Faye drama, finally.
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that is one stupid intern.
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Uggggh...
Moving on from the Red-Warning Hell Place....
I think Sven's shirt speaks volumes about the pain that is possibly coming his way.
Also wondering if chick solidarity will be involved when the intern next meets up with Faye?
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"And then some." *gigglesnort*
I like how Sven won't even look at her for the first three panels.
And... it's still an open question whether he's actually feeling remorseful, or just anticipating his impending death. Note that he has (had) no plans of telling Faye.
And over in Twitter, Jeph's talking about putting out a QC book! YAY
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Am I the only one that doesn't think Sven is entirely in the wrong here?
He knew what he was going into by getting involved with a lady with such emotional issues, but at the same time, they're not in a relationship. It's casual sex, and Faye is clearly not equipped to handle such a relationship.
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my theory: Sven told Lydia hoping she would tell Faye, because he is a) scared of confrontation and b) trying to find a way to not "hide" it from her. Ergo he gets someone else to do the job for him.
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my theory: Sven told Lydia hoping she would tell Faye, because he is a) scared of confrontation and b) trying to find a way to not "hide" it from her. Ergo he gets someone else to do the job for him.
I am seeing this, BUT; (and mind, where I am this is very late evening and I'm tired)
it's presumably early in the day when intern speaks to Sven, yes? not the next evening anyway?
Who hasnt, in their life- woken up regretting something, decided to keep it quiet, then realized later on that day that they really are obliged to mention it, for better or worse? I know I have.
The first reaction is denial, or lying, the second is acceptance, the third is admittance, the fourth is consequence.
Sven is roughly at addmittance.
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WTF!!!
Looks like it's about to hit the fan with Sven and Faye too.
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Am I the only one that doesn't think Sven is entirely in the wrong here?
He knew what he was going into by getting involved with a lady with such emotional issues, but at the same time, they're not in a relationship. It's casual sex, and Faye is clearly not equipped to handle such a relationship.
Nope, I don't see him as entirely in the wrong either. He never said that he was committed to her or that he was only going to sleep with her.
I think the intern is treading on a dangerous road, however.
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If Sven really wanted to keep it quiet, telling the first person he comes across probably isn't the optimal strategy.
To psychoanalyze a drawing, I bet Sven is feeling bad and is annoyed at feeling bad because he also feels he shouldn't feel bad.
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Interesting. I'm not quite sure what the intern's up to here.
On the one hand, if Sven asked her to lie for him, it's totally within her rights to say no (much the same way Faye did waaaaay back, with the blond girl outside of Coffee of Doom). Right now though, she's acting more like an overbearing...
Huh. Scratch that. Overbearing, no. Self-righteous, indignant, and annoying, yes.
She kinda jumped the gun on the "I'm the good guy" speech there.
As for Sven - so, will it be broken bones, or castration, I wonder?
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what did you guys think of the 1337 comic? I was expecting something involving explosions and magic powerz, but I suppose I'll have to settle for this.
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I can't tell how I should feel about Lydia's declaration of "if you don't tell her, I will." It's admirable that she's looking out for Faye, I guess, but they aren't exactly close. I kind of feel like she's being unreasonable; if Sven asks her to lie, she is more than within her rights to refuse, but it really isn't her place to go tattling off to Faye if he makes a decision she doesn't agree with. Now that she knows, if Faye were to ask her "Has Sven slept with anyone else lately", then she can go ahead and tell the truth. But if Faye doesn't ask her anything, it's none of her business to get involved in their relationship problems. She should butt out.
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I feel like sven's distaste for the event that unfolded shows a little shame. It seems like he is feeling mad at himself for feeling bad about the whole event. Possible signs of growth?
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I agree with you, fallax.
If Faye decided to ask Lydia if Sven has slept with anyone else, then it is by all means fine for her to say something. However, I don't think she should really be looking to force Sven to tell her (maybe get checked out for STD/STIs or something if she is worried for Faye's physical health but that's about it). I definitely think she's being unreasonable.
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Does anyone get the feeling Faye may shock us all and end up being really hurt by svens actions rather than mad? I feel like shes going to end up showing some actual vulnerability.
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If Faye feels vulnerable she'll handle it by getting angry.
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I agree with you, fallax.
If Faye decided to ask Lydia if Sven has slept with anyone else, then it is by all means fine for her to say something. However, I don't think she should really be looking to force Sven to tell her (maybe get checked out for STD/STIs or something if she is worried for Faye's physical health but that's about it). I definitely think she's being unreasonable.
Ermm, Isn't it Fays right to base her decisions on the truth- she already told Sven that their hookups would last only so long as he wasn't hooking up with other chicks- a fair enough request considering std's and so forth, not to mention she isnt seeing anyone else. So, if it was acceptable for Sven to sleep with someone else, it is still unacceptable for him to hide the truth from her. Anyone who is "in on" keeping the truth from her is participating in something that is wrong.
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it's none of her business to get involved in their relationship problems. She should butt out.
If it was none of her business, then Sven shouldn't have involved her by telling her.
She never butted in. Sven told her without prompting. He involved Lydia.
If you want something to stay a secret, you don't tell everyone.
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Sven's gotta man up and just tell Faye. Cause it's going to be so much worse if she finds out from someone else.
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Does anyone get the feeling Faye may shock us all and end up being really hurt by svens actions rather than mad? I feel like shes going to end up showing some actual vulnerability.
I'm sort of expecting her to curl up into a ball of I-should-have-known-this-would-happen based self-loathing.
Meanwhile, Dora will go fratricidal.
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muffmasta, I agree that he should tell her, don't get me wrong. What I don't think should happen is that the intern should be the one to deliver the message. Faye has every right to know, but I don't think that Lydia has a right to force Sven into doing it. He SHOULD...
But then again, bunnyThor does make a good point... I guess he did involve her and kind of made it her business.
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I say he seduces his intern, bangs her and then what is she gonna tell Faye...
Okay I know that's wrong, but I could see someone like him(the first original Sven) doing it.
Faye did set ground rules about their casual sex and he broke them.. He just needs to tell her what he did and that if she doesn't want to bone anymore then so be it.
Edit: also wanted to add because i've seen it come up... I wear my coat over hoodies quite often. And I've seen others do it here too... Maybe it's an old trend that the hipster world looks down upon or something I dunno.. But i like it and it comfy.
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I guess she won't be able to use him as a professional reference on her resume.
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that is one stupid intern.
I've never thought Lydia was particularly devoted to being Sven's intern. She started off all of one strip that way, but swiftly became disabused of the idea that she'd gain anything by interning with Sven. This might be a great opportunity for her to get out of this relationship, because her "mentor" will soon be either dead or in a Traumatic Brain Injury coma.
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Helping with the raging "coat and hoodie controversy"...
I am wearing a coat and hoodie right now. I usually wear a hoodie because I am endothermic, and when I go outside I put on a not very padded coat over it. Purely for comfort... aesthetically it is a wash, as purple (hoodie) and olive green(scott E vest coat) do NOT coordinate.
I am of the opinion that Sven just had to tell someone, maybe sending up a trial balloon to see how badly the bricks would fall. Judging by Intern's reaction, fast and heavy. I think Intern also came on pretty heavily because she is aware that Sven needs someone to really tell him that he did a BAD thing; he can usually justify his actions to himself. I don't think she will actually tell Faye, but I think she would give Sven a serious stink-eye if he evaded an opportunity to come clean with Faye.
Final thought: are we probing the deepest motives of imaginary people, or just Jeph's subconscious? :?
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Am I the only one that doesn't think Sven is entirely in the wrong here?
He knew what he was going into by getting involved with a lady with such emotional issues, but at the same time, they're not in a relationship. It's casual sex, and Faye is clearly not equipped to handle such a relationship.
Nope, I don't see him as entirely in the wrong either. He never said that he was committed to her or that he was only going to sleep with her.
I think the intern is treading on a dangerous road, however.
true, which brings as back to the fact that: this "relationship" was bound to fail.
as far as Sven goes he is being quite a nice guy considering his history and he is pretty much ready to own up to his mistake some ppl might even say he wants to get caught.
as far as the intern goes i think on one part she is being a bitch or one could say she is trying to make him do the right thing but on the other part that was needed for the story plus i can see that happen in RL.
as far as Faye goes i think she didn't want an actual relationship cause she was 1 she was expecting Sven to be unfaithful and she figured that way there would be less attachment (obviously she was wrong and she could almost be blamed for Svens infidelity cause keep him at distance made it easier for him to cheat on her), 2 she still has this phobia due to what happened with her father.
@ DinosGoLauRAWR im expecting her to be hurt more than anything else, I expect Dora to be mad at him, what im not sure about is what happens after that. (other than Faye getting wasted perhaps a sequel to Steve's brake up with the red head).
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I just have to say... Love the Shellac references in this one.
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Wow, I think I am more attracted to Sven than I've ever been.
He's character is just so...realistic.
I can't wait to see how this plays out.
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I'm wondering how Dora will react to this new turn of events. She warned Faye when the Faye/Sven thing started that he was unfaithful. Will she be all "I told you so" to Faye?
(side note, I wear hoodies under my coat ALL the time. It saves me wearing a toque when it's cold out. I also live in Ottawa, where it's almost always cold out)
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Why would you TELL HER THAT.
Good god his IQ has to be under 30!
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Faye's bark is usually worse than her bite, so I agree that she'll probably be more hurt than mad. I miss the therapy sessions, so I hope she goes that route instead drowning her sorrows in booze. I think this is the end of Sven/Faye though. It might make them realize that they have more feelings for each other than previously registered, but I can't really imagine Faye going back to him given her trust issues.
Perhaps she'll take another step in self-improvement, maybe taking some art classes so she can finish her degree? I don't know, sort of ready for something new.
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Cue Sven getting an epiphany over his love for Faye and chasing after her as she steps onto an airplane.
CLONE HIGH STYLE!
On a more serious note, I think that Sven cares a lot about keeping Faye around if he doesn't want to tell her about his random hookup, because Faye said a while ago that she is done with Sven once he fools around with someone else right?
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Cue Sven getting an epiphany over his love for Faye and chasing after her as she steps onto an airplane.
CLONE HIGH STYLE!
Thanks for that scene to play in my head :3
LOL
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This comic made me love Sven a little more. He looks so upset about what he did...the jackass. *sigh* hopefully Faye will go a bit easier on him knowing he feels as bad as he seems to...if she ever finds out that is.
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i find it strange that sven just tells his intern, just like that. i mean, he might be a jackass, but he's not stupid.
perhaps he wants to tell faye indirectly and let her rip him apart so he'll feel less guilty.
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Dora will go fratricidal.
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I dunno, Faye and Dora have an easy time dominating Martin because he's kind of a pushover - likewise Wil, Penelope, Raven, and Hannelore. Faye and Dora really get away with the most astonishing abuse of their friends - and most of the customers at the coffee shop. Sven, however, strikes me as a lot less willing to accept that kind of BS. He did a bad thing here, and maybe Faye will dump him for it, but I also think he's man enough to tell Dora to fuck off. It's really not her business.
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Cue Sven getting an epiphany over his love for Faye and chasing after her as she steps onto an airplane.
Sven: "You know, Steve? I think this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
So, any ideas that this little development might send Sven away, exiled from the 'regular' status of our favorite Massachusetts gang?
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Looks to me like Sven only told Lydia because he was distracted by his self-angry thoughts, I think it just slipped out. We can see here that Sven's relationship with Faye, whatever form that might take, means a lot to him because he is normally so open about his 'encounters', but he wants to keep this one quiet so he can continue meeting with her.
We also learned that Faye is better at the sexin' than Gina Riversmith :wink:
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thinkthink *Urge.. to boast.. overwhelming.. self-preservation..*
talktalk "I banged her!"
--> Wang two, brain zero. Dammit, brain!
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Why would he want to boast about someone who's lousy at bangin' knowing full well he'd be killed for it?
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it's none of her business to get involved in their relationship problems. She should butt out.
If it was none of her business, then Sven shouldn't have involved her by telling her.
She never butted in. Sven told her without prompting. He involved Lydia.
If you want something to stay a secret, you don't tell everyone.
I don't mean that it isn't her business /knowing/. Sven volunteered the information. I mean that it isn't her business to go running off to Faye and telling her. Sven and Faye are adults and it's their "relationship". Lydia isn't even all that close to Faye. It's not her decision unless Faye asks her.
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Actually the only way to keep a secret is to tell noone.
And I think Sven's being optimistic - Lydia's role will be to assist in the provision of an alibi.
And given the length of time that has passed, Sven and Faye appear to be in a relationship, so him telling her is being honest.
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she could almost be blamed for Svens infidelity cause keep him at distance made it easier for him to cheat on her
I know this is just a side quote, but this sort of mentality bothers me. It's not my fault, they made me do it. These days people seem really willing to blame the victims. Fortunately, it appears that Sven is pretty pissed off at himself and knows that he screwed up.
See, if he was feeling pissed off about how she was keeping him at a distance, he should have called the whole thing off. Getting it on with Gina after that wouldn't be cheating, would it?
I'd argue that she hasn't been pushing him off anyway. There's been a couple times where she's tried to open up to him (see restroom call) and he's refused.
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I'd argue that she hasn't been pushing him off anyway. There's been a couple times where she's tried to open up to him (see restroom call) and he's refused.
Restroom call was back when they were still drawing the battlelines and Faye was adamantly "This is NOT" a relationship. I don't fault Sven for not picking up on/responding to Faye's moment of "weakness". He's certainly no expert on healthy communication and monogamy himself.
On the one hand, I'd say Faye should categorically dump Sven, because he cheated. On the other hand, can you cheat on a non-relationship? We know Faye has said she'd be history if he slept with someone else, and so even if Sven doesn't feel he cheated he's at least scared of her reaction or losing her. Either way he needs to tell her. It would be nice if it led to a "moment" a la Clone High (gone too soon!*tear*)and better communication, but I don't know if that would feel organic to the characters.
I don't know what I want to happen here. I'm content to see where Jeph takes it.
In other news, I hope Dora gets run over by a bus and Marten dates cute library girl instead. This comic has enough dysfunctional, insecure, neurotic females. I hate people whose asses are on fire. Knork.
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Looks to me like Sven only told Lydia because he was distracted by his self-angry thoughts, I think it just slipped out. We can see here that Sven's relationship with Faye, whatever form that might take, means a lot to him because he is normally so open about his 'encounters', but he wants to keep this one quiet so he can continue meeting with her.
We also learned that Faye is better at the sexin' than Gina Riversmith :wink:
I"m leaning toward this one. Sven is having brand new thoughts and they are taking up all this thinking power. He can't think about this new sensation of guilt, the fact he actually didn't like the sex he had, and that he might have feelings for Faye (who, from past evidence, would never admit having feelings for him) and keep up a subterfuge.
As for the intern -- it really is none of her business, even if she knows. Not everything a person knows has to come spilling out of his/her mouth. If asked, she need not lie, but to threaten to run and tell isn't about honesty, but about power. She's making a threat to someone else who has some power over her (her boss, so to speak) and now she has something that gives her power over him, so in typical immature style, she's gonna tell! she's gonna tell! She's just short of dancing around and pointing her finger.
How do I know? I've been in a similar spot at the intern, knowing a friend was cheating largely with his then-fiance, also a friend. I was never asked, but I never threatened to tell. I encouraged cheater boy to tell, though, and expressed my disapproval, but in the end it isn't my job to go around forcing my moral code on others. They gotta make their own mistakes and live with them.
Wow. I just realized Jeph has finally created a character to whom I have taken a strong dislike. Whatsername intern girl was not my favorite when she appeared, with her unrealistic expectations and somewhat obnoxious expressions, but now she's just taken the next step.
Why would he want to boast about someone who's lousy at bangin' knowing full well he'd be killed for it?
I didn't get the idea Sven was boasting, really, and you point out two excellent reasons why that interpretation doesn't make sense. I really see it as Sven having Brand New Thoughts, and just having them is really shaking him up.
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He fucked up and he's knows that, for all of Faye's crazy, she's likely to be hurt by what he's done, so he has guilt. I think Sven told Lydia because the guilt was eating at him and he needed to get it off his chest, to confess. He didn't want to tell Faye for obvious reasons, but he wanted to tell someone in hopes that it would ease the guilt a little. I also think Sven doesn't want to lose what he has with Faye and, even though he makes it sound like he just doesn't want to die, he's afraid that she'll be gone when she finds out what he did.
Someone, either here on in another topic, mentioned Dora's reaction to this situation and Sven not putting up with BS. Yet right after they slept together, the second time, he was genuinely concerned about Dora killing him for it. Dora did warn Faye about Sven more than once, but she's also told Sven not to mess with Faye. She was also originally pretty pissed at Faye for sleeping with Sven. So who knows where she'll fall on this one. I think she'll be upset at her brother for hurting Faye and she'll feel bad for Faye, but part of her will "You knew this would happen."
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Just my take, and I'm prepared to be crucified for it, but Sven told Lydia, because he wants to tell Faye, and he was just working up to it.
Meh. He'll tell her.
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My god, Sven acting realistically: I'm thunderstruck!
Why did Sven tell Lydia? One of two reasons: either he was afraid she'd find out anyway and decided to bring it into the open or (more likely) he wants to be caught.
Why in god's name would he want to be caught, you ask? Because he's feeling guilty. I'm sure Gina did her "whorish best,"* but Sven was too distracted by guilt to notice.
Why the guilt? Who knows? I mean, people can feel guilty for the damnedest reasons. Very probably Sven himself doesn't know why he can't feel good about this escapade. But all the signs point to the fact that he doesn't.
That may be why he told Lydia, in fact, hoping to be forced into dealing with it. I really doubt Sven thought Lyds was going to give him a high five and a thumbs up for scoring Gina. But remember, if we can believe Dora, guilt's not something Sven is much used to dealing with. He may know he needs to be honest with Faye, but feels better about being 'forced' into it. Otherwise, he might be admitting to having a conscience as opposed to the whole "Faye knew what she was getting into" line of BS. That only works if you don't give a bucket of pig shit about the person in question.
So I suppose I agree with maddness, et alii. But what fun would it be just to type that?
*A fave Heinlein quote of mine: "Darling, a true lady takes off her dignity with her clothes and does her whorish best. At other times you can be as modest and dignified as your persona requires."
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And to carry on from what our good friend Raul started - the confession may very well force Faye into looking at what she has and what she wants from her relationship with Sven. Yes, I believe they have a relationship - neither side is being entirely open about what they want out of it, and neither party is being honest with themselves either.
Wait a minute, this might lead to character development!
Both parties here have not been entirely honest with themselves or with each other, and certainly both are saying things to "keep their cred", but their actions seem to indicate that they do have feelings for each other and that they care about each other. Nothing like a forced confrontation to make your realize what you have, what you want and what you need to do to keep it.
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My god, Sven acting realistically: I'm thunderstruck!
Cue Angus...Angus Young that is!
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I have to disagree on the whole "it's not lydia's place to tell" argument. Because that is BULLCRAP.
You can say all you want about letting people make their own mistakes and choices, and that's all well and good. But people can hardly make ANY choices if they don't have any information leading up to the fact that there's a choice to make.
Granted, she's not under any obligation to tell, she doesn't know Faye all that well or anything. But she knows enough to tell that Faye wouldn't appreciate it, and there is nothing, NOTHING wrong with her letting her know what happened. Maybe if she'd just seen him around ambiguously with another girl or something I could see reason for her to morally butt out, it being not her business and there being plenty of room for misunderstanding. But he blatantly TOLD her what went down. She's well within her rights to tell any other involved party as she feels morally inclined to.
I don't see how it's possibly a power thing, because once she's actually told it's done with. Unless you think she's just all talk and wouldn't follow through with it, thus just trying to twitch his strings. We'll see how that plays out.
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I don't mean that it isn't her business /knowing/. Sven volunteered the information. I mean that it isn't her business to go running off to Faye and telling her. Sven and Faye are adults and it's their "relationship". Lydia isn't even all that close to Faye. It's not her decision unless Faye asks her.
If you force me to take something, it *is* my business what I do with it subsequently. This includes information.
Lydia is his intern, not his secret-keeper or father confessor. She has been thrust unwillingly into an uncomfortable position, and it is completely within her rights to do whatever it takes to resolve her sudden burden. If that means she posts the information on the internet or if that means that she clams up and pretends that she heard nothing, that's her business.
If she had been drawn into his confidence, or signed a non-disclosure agreement, or had promised to keep a secret beforehand, that's a different matter. But instead Sven just dumped a hot potato in her lap with no warning, instruction, or consideration. Anything she feels she has to do to keep from being burned is legitimate.
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I have to disagree on the whole "it's not lydia's place to tell" argument. Because that is BULLCRAP.
You can say all you want about letting people make their own mistakes and choices, and that's all well and good. But people can hardly make ANY choices if they don't have any information leading up to the fact that there's a choice to make.
Granted, she's not under any obligation to tell, she doesn't know Faye all that well or anything. But she knows enough to tell that Faye wouldn't appreciate it, and there is nothing, NOTHING wrong with her letting her know what happened. Maybe if she'd just seen him around ambiguously with another girl or something I could see reason for her to morally butt out, it being not her business and there being plenty of room for misunderstanding. But he blatantly TOLD her what went down. She's well within her rights to tell any other involved party as she feels morally inclined to.
This.
I don't mean that it isn't her business /knowing/. Sven volunteered the information. I mean that it isn't her business to go running off to Faye and telling her. Sven and Faye are adults and it's their "relationship". Lydia isn't even all that close to Faye. It's not her decision unless Faye asks her.
If you force me to take something, it *is* my business what I do with it subsequently. This includes information.
Lydia is his intern, not his secret-keeper or father confessor. She has been thrust unwillingly into an uncomfortable position, and it is completely within her rights to do whatever it takes to resolve her sudden burden. If that means she posts the information on the internet or if that means that she clams up and pretends that she heard nothing, that's her business.
If she had been drawn into his confidence, or signed a non-disclosure agreement, or had promised to keep a secret beforehand, that's a different matter. But instead Sven just dumped a hot potato in her lap with no warning, instruction, or consideration. Anything she feels she has to do to keep from being burned is legitimate.
Also this.
I've been in Lydia's situation before and it is incredibly shitty. If you say something, you risk ruining somebody else's relationship. But if you DON'T say something, it poisons your relationship with those same people.
I'd rather err on the side of honesty, and have in the past.
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I'm sort of expecting her to curl up into a ball of I-should-have-known-this-would-happen based self-loathing.
Meanwhile, Dora will go fratricidal.
Faye almost has to have thought about what she'd say if Sven sleeps with someone else. If she doesn't go non-linear at the news, Sven is likely to get something planned, rather than an extemporized response.
I'm expecting something more like "So, was she worth never sleeping with me again?" than either self-loathing or violence, at least while Sven is actually there.
What happens after, well, maybe we'll see Dr. Corrine again. Maybe Dora will get her wish. Maybe Faye will next be seen with a wood chipper and a shifty expression.
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Notice Sven didn't jump up with a cry of, "Oh no, please don't!" when Lydia threatened to tell. If he just accidentally let it slip that he slept with Gina and doesn't want Faye to know, I think that would be more along the lines of his response. Instead he seems resigned to his fate. I doubt Lydia will tell Faye, this sounds like an empty threat to me, then again we don't know her character that well. Of course it is Lydia's "right" to tell, she is a free person. That being said, I am of the opinion that the PROFESSIONAL thing for her to do would be to quit and walk away from the situation.
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and if she should happen to end up in CoD and Faye strikes up a conversation?
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Why would she go to CoD without the intent of telling Faye in the first place? If she is there she has already made up her mind to tell, since she knows full well that Faye works there.
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Why would he want to boast about someone who's lousy at bangin' knowing full well he'd be killed for it?
I know, right?
But ok, it's the guilt talking, trying to conceal itself poorly with nonchalance and a fine layer of chauvinism. At least that's what I get from the "And then some." line; otherwise instant high five you've gotta admit, but just neither credibly nor enthusiasticly delivered, knowing he isn't fooling anyone, including himself.
Plus that extra lock on his door means that he's paranoid (maybe he even installed it this morning, in 1334 it looks at least unfinished), to round up this interpretation for the sake of not having to go to bed just yet.
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the intern would be overstepping her bounds.
She has a bit too much attitude.
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I've been in Lydia's situation before and it is incredibly shitty. If you say something, you risk ruining somebody else's relationship. But if you DON'T say something, it poisons your relationship with those same people.
I'd rather err on the side of honesty, and have in the past.
There's one worse: being given such information by Party S, biting the bullet and keeping your lip zipped, and then finding out that Party S has told everyone he knows except Party F, the person that it matters to, and that, by playing the odds, has managed to get somebody to finally spill it to Party F, which was apparently the plan all along. You're left with the Charlie Brown question: are you a hero, or a goat? Me, I felt like eating laundry, stinking, and shitting all over the place*, i.e. decidedly goatlike.
And by the way, for everyone wanting to slam Lydia, there's a decided difference in taking someone into your confidence for help in working something out and casually dropping a stink-bomb the way Sven did.
*Well, verbally shitting.
Edit: Which, I realize I didn't say, is what I think Sven would do if he could. Drat Wil for being on a road trip!
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You know what would be awesome right now?
A comic about Steve.
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Wow the Intern has a pair,good to know.
I do agree though,he should tell Faye,i just wonder how she would take it.
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You know what would be awesome right now?
A comic about Steve.
I could go for a Steve interlude.
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You know what would be awesome right now?
A comic about Steve.
I'd like a storyline where Sven and Steve go on a bender and then start hanging out and double-dating and shit. There aren't enough good bro male relationships in the strip.
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I'd like to see Sven, Steve, and Marten pose as a team cause shit just got real.
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I've been in Lydia's situation before and it is incredibly shitty. If you say something, you risk ruining somebody else's relationship. But if you DON'T say something, it poisons your relationship with those same people.
I'd rather err on the side of honesty, and have in the past.
There's one worse: being given such information by Party S, biting the bullet and keeping your lip zipped, and then finding out that Party S has told everyone he knows except Party F, the person that it matters to, and that, by playing the odds, has managed to get somebody to finally spill it to Party F, which was apparently the plan all along. You're left with the Charlie Brown question: are you a hero, or a goat? Me, I felt like eating laundry, stinking, and shitting all over the place*, i.e. decidedly goatlike.
And by the way, for everyone wanting to slam Lydia, there's a decided difference in taking someone into your confidence for help in working something out and casually dropping a stink-bomb the way Sven did.
*Well, verbally shitting.
Edit: Which, I realize I didn't say, is what I think Sven would do if he could. Drat Wil for being on a road trip!
Why would it be "biting the bullet" not to say something you'd have to go out of your way to say? Do you really think Sven is going to tell everyone except Faye?
I guess it's my advanced age -- I've been through this particular situation from a few different viewpoints over the years. There are no good scenarios. I've been the one told I was being cheated on (I didn't want to believe it. Once it turned out to be a lie, and once it turned out to be true. Both times, the drama was large, the relationships were ruined all the way around, and it was ugly). I've been the one who told about a cheater (same scenario, only I got something thrown at me) and I've been the one who told the cheater I wasn't carrying his news for him, he better do it himself. (The only one where all things DID NOT go up in flames, although there was ugliness afterwards). Lydia isn't even Faye's friend with some sort of loyalty involved. She's met Faye, what, two or three times in great awkwardness?
Here's a thought -- perhaps there will be more conversation and Sven will talk this out and come to a decision. Personally, I hope he will be an adult about it and do the telling because it's the right thing to do, and that Faye will handle it non-violently (sorry, I don't think violence is an appropriate choice in this situation -- funny, yes, but it is just another way to control people -- do what I want or I will cause you pain).
However, I will say that Jeph has done his job as writer -- we are obsessing about it! Hell, I'm on vacation for my birthday and I'm obsessing about it!
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Biting the bullet because I didn't and don't like seeing people used badly. I admit that now I would keep my mouth shut, too, as* I now believe, on a whole, in allowing people to 'enjoy' their own amusements. But sometimes I'm very afraid that what this really amounts to is being "old and tired."
So cheers to Lydia for being willing to "go out of her way" for a fellow human being. Although, as both yesterday and today's strips show, what she's really trying to do is make Sven do what's right via a threat (in a way, the same thing). Which, as I said before, must be what he wants.
edit: 'but' was the wrong conjunction. Post actually makes sense now. Sort of, anyway. :-)
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
I'd say Sven is a dick, but Sven's not a real person.
I think he SHOULD tell her and I think that Lydia should if he doesn't man up and do it himself. You can say stay out of it all you want, but by not telling she's tacitly approving, and she'd made it clear she think's Sven's a ho anyway. Also, she would be lying by omission. But mostly I hate selfish asshatery from people: what you don't know CAN hurt you.
And I hope to hell Faye can be a grown up and not come out punching. Yelling is totally acceptable, but violence isn't. If Sven hit her, we'd all have a fit. But she shouldn't be hitting him, either. That's sure as all damn the wrong way to handle problems.
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Sven's fighting it, but I think he will tell Faye in the end. Lydia is probably playing the role of the voice of his growing conscience. I think too that Sven actually does care about Faye more than he cares to admit to himself even now.
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I think sven knows he's going to get it, but he wants to delay the pain as long as possible to make everything feel much worse when faye gets to poundin'.
or will she?!
OR WILL SHE?! OH SHI-
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I'm hoping Sven doesn't tell Faye, so that when Faye does find out, poop hits the fan... the turbo charged fan... and the poop really really stinks, not like that poop that sometimes doesn't stink so much because you managed to keep to a healthy diet for a week or so.
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so i occasionally come out of lurking...
so, i'm one of those faye/sven fans...cliche? yes. but i still totally wanted it. and am definitely disappointed in the turn of events. i guess i thought if it ended it would be sven getting bored and walking away or something? i don't know. In any case, instead of seeing Faye freak out i think she'd be so much more effective if she didn't say anything at all and just left ending it all like that. I think that would really mess with sven. and in the end, like most people here have said as well, both of them were clear on what this was, so even though it doesnt seem right, it can't really be called cheating.
in regards to the intern....i think it would depend on the situation. if it was a close friend of mine, then i'd feel obligated to tell them what was going on. i don't think it's really her place to tell faye here, because as someone pointed out earlier they've only met a handful of times. but seeing as how she does know sven, there's no reason she can't act as his conscience. I like the intern.
on a total side note, i think its time to give Hanners a love interest, get her to break out of her shell a bit more or something.
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I don't think Faye's actually going to resort to violence. It seems like that joke's passed, thankfully, as it always felt a bit weird to me. I think she's more likely to go off and cry or something. I imagine this is what Sven's more afraid of than her yelling at him, at the very least he didn't want to actually hurt Faye. This burst of remorse is probably him realising he should have turned her down in the first place and saved her a load of hurt.
on a total side note, i think its time to give Hanners a love interest, get her to break out of her shell a bit more or something.
Urgh, I can't imagine this. She's so childlike in her current form it'd just feel weird.
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My question at this point is that after the yelling (assuming Faye does at least some), whose shoulder does she cry on? It's a given that she'll talk to her therapist at some point, but who is her go-to person on something like this. Dora? Marten? Hannelore? Penelope or Raven? I dunno.
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on a total side note, i think its time to give Hanners a love interest, get her to break out of her shell a bit more or something.
Urgh, I can't imagine this. She's so childlike in her current form it'd just feel weird.
Not without a guy who's not equally as innocent and perhaps obsessive/psychotic at least.
But if there WAS such a guy, they'd be so cute together, what with never even touching and all.
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
No moreso than Faye's being an inexpressive bitch. Honesty all around would do them a world of good.
Yes, they're comic(book) characters, but I think most folks have encountered people similar to them at some point in their lives, which is what I base this off of. The characters themselves are just convienent stand-ins.
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on a total side note, i think its time to give Hanners a love interest, get her to break out of her shell a bit more or something.
that's not how mental illness worksharblgrbrlsarjdnf
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on a total side note, i think its time to give Hanners a love interest, get her to break out of her shell a bit more or something.
that's not how mental illness worksharblgrbrlsarjdnf
Not everything is necessarily directly part of her OCD, even things that can be blamed on it to some extent. I'd suspect her trouble interacting with people has more to do with how she was raised (on a space station, right? and we've met her mom.) than with the OCD anyway.
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man i'm still waiting for a female character that isn't hannelore that has redeeming qualities
i thought the intern had potential but no she had to go and fuck it up
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
Indeed. We've never seen that one before, right ?
so, i'm one of those faye/sven fans...cliche? yes. but i still totally wanted it.
Cliche ? Uh. If something is stereotype, you would at very least expect it or something.
For me, wishing for the Faye/Sven relationship is something extremely weird. Why join the girl with issues with the extremely immature playboy ? Seriously !
on a total side note, i think its time to give Hanners a love interest, get her to break out of her shell a bit more or something.
That would be some kind of Wil.
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Why join the girl with issues with the extremely immature playboy ? Seriously !
so basically you want sven to be celibate
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*rimshot*
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
Indeed. We've never seen that one before, right ?
Even for Sven, though, that's being a dick.
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
Indeed. We've never seen that one before, right ?
Even for Sven, though, that's being a dick.
how so
he's said several times that it's not exclusive or words to that effect, why the hell are people saying that his behavious is dickish
do you just hate sex
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do you just hate sex
Yes. Sex makes me angry in ways even genocide can't provoke.
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do you just hate sex
Yes. Sex makes me angry in ways even genocide can't provoke.
well shit
sex with you must be wicked sweet if we posit that angry sex is kickin'
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Wow, Sven's being a dick.
Indeed. We've never seen that one before, right ?
Even for Sven, though, that's being a dick.
But his facial expressions are SO awesome when he's feeling introspective and remorseful.
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I hope in the end that faye and sven become a couple :lol: I really do.
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I wouldn't mind one way or another if Sven and Faye stay together or break up (although I think I might prefer together. I liked the old banter). I'm just not excited about the angsty big reveal. I hate to admit it but I feel legitimately sorry for these characters sometimes. I know if Faye starts crying and retreating back into denial land or Sven starts whoring and drinking I am just going to be unreasonably upset.
Pffft.
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I can't decide if Sven needs to grow some balls or chop his off, either way, he isn't healthy where he is.
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Great strips this, as usual, but none of them amused me quite so much as est's Weekly Comic Discussion comic (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22450.0.html).
Nothing much to add to the "Sven is an arse" discussion, really.
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Another thing to add to the list of reasons why I must not get moshed to death by Glaswegians this Sunday*. I need to see what happens next!
The list also contains Starcraft 2 and the Watchmen film.
(*Defenders of the Faith tour. Lamb of God for the win! \m/)
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"She's the one who said if I slept with anyone else she'd leave" -- that's what Sven's really afraid of. He isn't scared of Faye's wrath, he's proven several times before he can handle her. He's scared he will find himself a dumped man for the first time in...forever, most likely, and that he'll miss her.
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Let's acknowledge one bit of reality here. If someone cheats and then confesses it to their partner then they're a selfish bastard. The only real reason cheaters confess is because they feel bad and they know confessing will help them feel better even though it will make their partner feel a whole lot worse. So really the selfish prick just wants to feel better and doesn't care if you feel worse. If your conscience is paining you then maybe you deserve it and you should stew in it. If you absolutely must the go tell your priest or your shrink but don't go burdening your girlfriend just to make yourself feel better.
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Great strips this, as usual, but none of them amused me quite so much as est's Weekly Comic Discussion comic (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22450.0.html).
Actually, that wasn't est's.
The thread that he borrowed it from: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22188.0.html
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Is it just me, or does Sven look like he dropped about seven years or so.
Compare http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199
with http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1338
I would have pegged Sven at 30-31 in the earlier comic, but lately he looks 23-24. IMO, of course. YMMV.
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Let's acknowledge one bit of reality here. [...] If you absolutely must the go tell your priest or your shrink but don't go burdening your girlfriend just to make yourself feel better.
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Confessing to your girlfriend you cheated on her is SELFISH ???
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Let's acknowledge one bit of reality here. [...] If you absolutely must the go tell your priest or your shrink but don't go burdening your girlfriend just to make yourself feel better.
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Confessing to your girlfriend you cheated on her is SELFISH ???
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basically the only reason to confess that you cheated to your significant other is to relieve your guilt is what he's saying
there are also health reasons which is the thing that he's missing and also perhaps you feel that your girlfriend should know (because if you've cheated once you're statisitically much more likely to cheat again than someone who never cheated and you think that she should be fully informed about the relationship)
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Teen Drama Scenario: Faye is pregnant. She decides to tell Sven, while Sven has decided to tell Faye about his cheating. Faye drops the bomb first, making Sven unable to tell Faye about his cheating. Now he just wants to be there for her and never tell her what happened. Only to make an even uglier mess when Faye finds out...
dun Dun DUN!
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Great strips this, as usual, but none of them amused me quite so much as est's Weekly Comic Discussion comic (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22450.0.html).
Nothing much to add to the "Sven is an arse" discussion, really.
That's actually mine, from this thread.
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22186.50.html
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Let's acknowledge one bit of reality here. [...] If you absolutely must the go tell your priest or your shrink but don't go burdening your girlfriend just to make yourself feel better.
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Confessing to your girlfriend you cheated on her is SELFISH ???
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basically the only reason to confess that you cheated to your significant other is to relieve your guilt is what he's saying
there are also health reasons which is the thing that he's missing and also perhaps you feel that your girlfriend should know (because if you've cheated once you're statisitically much more likely to cheat again than someone who never cheated and you think that she should be fully informed about the relationship)
Why does he even have to tell Faye for health reasons? He goes to the clinic, gets tested; if he's negative, Faye does not need to know. As long as Sven has not contracted any diseases or gotten Gina pregnant, there is absolutely no good reason for Faye to know this happened.
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If Sven wants to keep sleeping with Faye, even as big of a dick as him couldn't avoid guilt, which wouldn't let him sleep with her unless he told her. But then, if Faye wants to keep sleeping with Sven and he refuses, then Faye will become curious and she'll find out anyway.
I would say that if you've done something wrong to your "partner" (and let's not argue about whether or not this is a "relationship" and whether or not Sven and Faye are "partners", please) it's better you be honest and tell them than they find out that you were trying to hide it.
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Why does he even have to tell Faye for health reasons? He goes to the clinic, gets tested; if he's negative, Faye does not need to know. As long as Sven has not contracted any diseases or gotten Gina pregnant, there is absolutely no good reason for Faye to know this happened.
Some STD's take a while to show up, but are transmittable in the mean time. Oral herpes is a great example. And some are asymptomatic in many people, like say HPV.
But really, I personally don't think it's a health thing primarily. That's only a secondary issue. It's about being honest in your relationships. You know, do unto others and all that.
Also, being honest tends to kill drama stone dead. Sven's whole "If I don't tell her, she won't find out, and there will never be any consequences" rationalization is obviously mistaken. Faye IS gonna find out, sooner or later, one way or another. If he tells her right away, the amount of drama will be way less. The longer it takes for her to find out, the more drama...
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Faye made it clear her consent required monogamy. Whether or not they are in a relationship is moot. If Sven doesn't tell her then her consent is based on false pretenses.
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Let's acknowledge one bit of reality here.
Some people's definition of "reality" is curiously similar to my definition of "sociopathy."
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Great strips this, as usual, but none of them amused me quite so much as est's Weekly Comic Discussion comic (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22450.0.html).
Nothing much to add to the "Sven is an arse" discussion, really.
That's actually mine, from this thread.
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22186.50.html
Sorry, I thought est had just whipped it up to make the point. Good work, sir.
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Let's acknowledge one bit of reality here.
Some people's definition of "reality" is curiously similar to my definition of "sociopathy."
That just tells me you don't even know what the definition of sociopathy is. I'm just not seeing the chronic immoral and anti-social behavior. Personally, I see people as fallible and imperfect so the important thing would be to resolve not to do it again and move on. The milk is spilled and crying about it won't solve anything so take it as a learning experience and move on. There is certainly no benefit to confessing at this point other then to make yourself feel better at the expense of other people which is selfish so just resolve not to do it again and let that be the end of it.
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Not related to the comic strips themselves, but still: I am not a fan of the new colouring scheme of the site. The former was... friendlier and more welcoming.
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For someone who doesn't care about being monogamous, he certainly seems concerned about her leaving. Just sayin....
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I'm surprised people aren't looking at the deeper issue here.
"So I'm a liar. I can live with that."
That just screams resignation and defeat. This guy has gone through some serious shit in the past, and he doesn't enjoy being how he is at all; it's to protect himself.
Sven got caught in the heat of the moment and lost control. He doesn't feel guilty, he's mad, disappointed, and depressed with himself for once again succumbing to his desires. He may not have done the best thing, but don't be so quick to judge this guy. I suspect he's got a history of some psychological issues we could only begin to guess at.
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I suspect he's got a history of some psychological issues we could only begin to guess at.
I am surprised at this.
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You DO know what comic you're reading, right?
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If you absolutely must the go tell your priest or your shrink but don't go burdening your girlfriend just to make yourself feel better.
Woah...remind me never, ever, to date you and to get all of my friends to ask, "Is your username Oerdin" before dating any future men.
Edit: Or tragicbanjo, apparently.
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You know what I liked?
The old QC page layout. Also the forum thread layout.
Is this the change Obama was talking about?
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ok, so just for your information, this is super long. partially b/c I had a few responses and partially b/c i had to put my own two cents in ;)
Urgh, I can't imagine this. She's so childlike in her current form it'd just feel weird.
hmm...you know i definitely think of her as very innocent, but i've never thought of her as a child...it just didn't occur to me haha...it's an interesting point. I still don't think it would be too weird though, I think it would be good for her. Obviously it would have to be a very specific type of person, but maybe it would help her? I don't know, I just think Hanners could use a good man ;)
Not without a guy who's not equally as innocent and perhaps obsessive/psychotic at least.
But if there WAS such a guy, they'd be so cute together, what with never even touching and all.
You know, I wonder if it would be good for her (or the potential extreme ocd guy) to be with someone exactly like her...but at the same time, who else could understand and embrace her disorder because it's so extreme. But yes it would be cute.
that's not how mental illness worksharblgrbrlsarjdnf
umm...having been diagnosed with a form of ocd myself, i think it's safe to say there isn't any one way that mental illness "works"
i've noticed that when i keep busy or distracted, i'm better able to control it. So who's to say that another person couldn't help? I didn't say a man would cure her, just help her. And actually I didn't even refer to her disorder. Her disorder is something she lives with not ever aspect of her entire being. I was just thinking, she's shy and has never had many friends and she's grown with her new group, maybe a romantic interest could do the same thing.
Cliche ? Uh. If something is stereotype, you would at very least expect it or something.
For me, wishing for the Faye/Sven relationship is something extremely weird. Why join the girl with issues with the extremely immature playboy ? Seriously !
The cliche part is that there's always this sort of relationship in various forms of fiction (novels, shows, films, etc) where there is this girl with some sort of issue and there is this guy who's supposed to be the quintessential "bad" boy who never shows any sign of settling down with a woman. But the two meet and after a series of events, often something including miscommunication, the woman is better able to deal with her issues if she hasn't resolved them and the bad boy has reformed to being one woman man and they all live happily ever after.
Wow, putting it like that sounds bad even to me and I often like a cliche happily ever if its presented in the right way. I figure life sucks so the fantasy should play out well.
That would be some kind of Wil.
hehehe can you imagine?!
Funny thing is despite all this talk of a potenial relationship for her, i'm not even a huge Hannelore fan. Not that I don't like her or anything I just don't really focus on her.
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I think the reason so many people are calling Sven a dick is b/c despite what the two of them have been saying this whole time, their behavior has indicated that they are both more into it than they want to admit to themselves or each other. Plus you look at his expressions in this last comic, or his general friendship (not the romantic aspect) with Faye he often treats her differently than most other girls so again the reader feels like there's more to it than friendship regardless of its official or conventional. And so, in a way, to the reader it can feel like he sort of cheated. Someone referred to him as having deep seated issues. I don't think so. I mean everyone has issues to an extent, but here I think Sven (at least in his original incarnation) is just your classic playboy and as someone else mentioned he's not used to being dumped, it's not his style.
And for those who are all "it's just a comic" a comic is just like any other storyline that you get emotionally involved with. And as is apparent in many peoples comments a lot of whats going on in the story is relatable (which is why it can get so heated) so people feel inclined to discuss it.
i think i'm done now. :-P