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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Tybalt on 22 Feb 2009, 15:47
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How's my driving?
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I would vote for the last option if the 'lesbian' part was removed.
Cyborg Hanners would be neat. Cyborg lesbians is just overkill.
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Cyborg lesbians is just overkill.
[pedantic] are just overkill.[/pedantic]
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Google Image Search with SafeSearch off? Kinky!
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Jeph's definitely going in a more traditionally-cartoonish direction lately. I personally rather like it! Especially if it means we get to see more of Demonic Faye. :evil:
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Things I love so much about this comic: The PFSC shirt and the picture URLs.
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A much better response than drowning herself in beer.
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Cyborg lesbians is just overkill.
[pedantic] are just overkill.[/pedantic]
Maybe he meant that it would have sufficed to have either cyborgs or lesbians?
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Jesus Christ, Faye.
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As far as woman-scorned anger goes, her reaction is pretty low key imo.
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Nice to see Faye handling this with poise and maturity. :roll:
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Am I the only one who thought for a second that the Penny Arcade guys did a guest strip?
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At first glance I thought this was a one-panel comic with some wretched Google ad below it.
Needless to say, I'm disappointed in Faye. Which is to say things are back to normal.
Gina will learn from this, though."Never screw a pretty asshole you meet at a gig, 'cuz his enraged not-as-such girlfriend will sic small walking computers on you...when they get around to it." Ya can't say that won't come in handy next time around.
Er...
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Well, at least we know that Faye still cares about Sven . . . in her own special way. :|
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Cyborg lesbians is just overkill.
That was the point. Satire.
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I never did understand this response.
If you and some SO are in a committed relationship, why be mad at an outside interloper? They're not breaking any commitment, the SO is. Get mad at the SO instead.
Not that Sven was "committed," at least as far as he was concerned; in Faye's mind, she expected it of him though.
Hence the blame....lies with no one but Faye, I guess?
:lol:
Either way, nicely done on the last panel. :)
....incidentally, my internship project involves working on an old welding robot. Once when I got it to come back to life, it used this fleeting moment to lash out at someone who was helping me out for a minute. He jumped back, but the robot's thirst for blood wound up tugging out some precariously-plugged power wires, which shut it down.
This is a 20 year old robot, too - they've been planning this uprising for a long time now.
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Months of Faye working on her issues and achieving some kind of stability out the window... nice work there, Sven. And after all that, Gina probably won't even mention your name at the CMAs.
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It's the return of the Fayeminator.
Nice to see things settling down to their usual levels with her - I was worried she'd go over the top with this. :roll:
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Interested to see how this one ends (if it does...I have a bad feeling about this.)
Loving the Pictures for Sad Children shirt :]
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Months of Faye working on her issues and achieving some kind of stability out the window... nice work there, Sven. And after all that, Gina probably won't even mention your name at the CMAs.
I''m proud of Sven. Therapy cannot save someone who is truly insane.
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I don't think you understand the concept of therapy.
or mental illness.
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...also, Faye's not "insane."
She suffered a serious trauma. She gots issues, yeah, but who wouldn't? (and who doesn't)...
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People are disappointed in Faye because she's venting in private? I mean seesh, of course there's going to be some hurt feelings and anger here so she's venting them in a nonharmful environment, this is goodFaye not badFaye.
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People are disappointed in Faye because she's venting in private? I mean seesh, of course there's going to be some hurt feelings and anger here so she's venting them in a nonharmful environment, this is goodFaye not badFaye.
Seriously.
Just because she's angry doesn't mean she's going insane or whatever.
When you think about it, this is no worse than searching up people on myspace/facebook and being all, "I hatechoo, bitch! You stole mahhh mannn!".
Yes, lots of people do that.
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She's indulging in a little fantasy retribution, throwing blame around and about. Until she actually picks up a weapon and goes after someone, she's handling.
And at least we get to see Pintsize.
I think (for a change) I'll let a few strips go by before starting my in-depth speculation.
And the poll needs a "none of the above". All polls need that. None of those choices had much appeal. Where was the "Pintsize gets his laser back"? THAT'S development! ;)
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Google Image Search with SafeSearch off? Kinky!
Would you expect anything else from Pintsize?
Also, what's with all the evil-tastic facial expressions lately?
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I believe this is the first comic where we see an AnthroPC actually being used. Which is awesome, because I was sort of wondering how exactly it worked. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, if Sven and Faye get back together after this, I'm seriously going to be pissed.
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Yeah, Faye is handling this well. :-P I'm just wondering what caused Marten to ban Pintsize from Google? :laugh:
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And the poll needs a "none of the above". All polls need that. None of those choices had much appeal. Where was the "Pintsize gets his laser back"? THAT'S development! ;)
You could, uh.. not vote?
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You know, considering everything, you'd think Faye would be more angry at Sven than Gina.
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I actually just wrote a research paper relating Google to SkyNET and the Robot Revolution.
Go Jeph for stalking me!
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Also, if Sven and Faye get back together after this, I'm seriously going to be pissed.
Never say never. All things are possible, or even desirable--if the proper dues are paid, the proper amends are made, and the proper lessons learned. That's the heart of storycraft.
The only thing you can say for certain is that if Sven and Faye get back together, it won't be in the same way. Crossing the same river twice, can't go home again, etc.
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It wouldn't be surprising if the two got together again now would it? I mean we know that Faye likes Sven from the way she's reacting and the lack of corpsing him up, and we know Sven likes Faye since he was up front about the whole thing and has held remorse through this whole thing. Question is CAN they get back together, not 'why would they?'.
Part of me wants to cheer the two on to pull through this, but more of me is cheering for Faye to tell Sven to go take a flying fuck and move onto someone more worth it who won't bang a musician behind her back.
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Google Image Search with SafeSearch off? Kinky!
Comic is inaccurate. There should be like thirteen pictures of Gina's head sloppily photoshopped on some porn.
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woah, she has a blog?
http://countrysuxx.net/
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Gotta love irrational girl anger :D
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Muhaha ! Faye with beaming eyes. :laugh:
Still, she's unfair. That riversomething chick doesnt even know about her existence. It was Svens fault to get himself into that situation.
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woah, she has a blog?
http://countrysuxx.net/
Apparently no twitter, though. Yet.
Odd, HanneloreEC is following wilw.
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woah, she has a blog?
http://countrysuxx.net/
Now we just need some of the musicians in these parts to record one of Sven's songs under Gina's name, get it onto iTunes, then if every reader of QC bought a copy...
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As far as woman-scorned anger goes, her reaction is pretty low key imo.
Considering the fact that this technology exists in QC world, it really is low key. She's having a pretty typical response. She may have told Sven it would be over if he slept with someone else, but she never said she WOULDN'T be effected by it, and the fact that she said she would leave if he did MEANS she would be effected by it.
So, not surprising.
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Also, are one of the links indicating that Gina had laser surgery to remove spider veins? :o
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That's the smallest mouse I've ever seen.
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Yes Faye is a little uncalled for in her actions towards Gina as she all innocent like blah blah blah. But shes a girl and girls do stupid things like that in the process of feeling better. Its not like shes tracking her down to go smash her windows or something. No its if by some reasoning something happens that really has no possibility, just have her on your radar.
and yeah i still love her attitude
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That's the smallest mouse I've ever seen.
I've seen about as small in real life.
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You know, considering everything, you'd think Faye would be more angry at Sven than Gina.
Clearly, you have never been cheated on. And for that, I salute you - you are lucky, lucky, lucky for that lack of experience.
Unfortunately, that's how the human mind works. When something like this happens, you're initially angry at the person you love, but then you're even SO MUCH MORE INCREDIBLY angry at the person they cheated on you with. You generally don't want to physically hurt someone you love, even though they hurt you. But the person they cheated with... you want to rip their still beating heart out of their chest, fill it with gasoline, stick it back in their chest so it pumps that gasoline through every single vein in their body, make them swallow a match so the fire rips through vessel and capillary alike, and then give them an IV drip of napalm, so that system-wide blaze won't go out for a good looooong time.
Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything... :roll:
But my guess is that it's the love that you feel for the person that keeps them from being the main focus of violence. The anger is there but... I dunno, it's just not the way it works, for some reason. You want your SO to hurt emotionally the way you do, you want them to cry and feel guilty and ashamed, you want them to beg and grovel to hope to be worthy enough to one day be worthy of being in your presence... but if you destryoed them, they wouldn't be there anymore, and you don't want that. You don't have an emotional connection to the one they cheated with, so there's nothing keeping you from releasing the rage you feel toward them.
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I have to admit, i did not expect Faye to go after Gina (+1 for Jeph).
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Mature as ever, Faye.
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Mature as ever, Faye.
Nobody is mature when in anger.
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Am I the only one who thought for a second that the Penny Arcade guys did a guest strip?
it's the red pupils whilst screaming semi coherently, isnt it?
(personally I think Faye should be angry at Sven. It's never implied either way but I find it unlikely Sven ever mentioned Faye to Gina..)
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Now that's a death stare!
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Some people are acting as though Faye asked Pintsize to track down Gina's address and send her a bomb in the mail. :-P As for "she's not behaving with poise and maturity" - who maintains their perfect poise when they're angry, and especially when they're angry and hurt?
Personally I think she's doing this the right way, she realizes she's angry and venting that anger in a non-destructive, fantasy way (unless you're ready to believe QCverse is facing an impeding robot revolution...) instead of taking it out on someone around her. I think the main reason she asked Pintsize to google Gina was to see for herself what she looks like.
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Thank you. I had written the same thing in another thread.
Man we all love QC because the characters all seem real. But then people get really angry when the characters actually behave like real people
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Dora I believe you may need to reassess Faye's paygrade and position at CoD. She's showing some management potential here - the ability to delegate tasks.
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"I want her to be first up against the wall when the robot revolution comes" has got to be the mildest thing Faye could ever do to anyone in revenge. It has no impact on Sven. It has no impact on Gina. It probably gives Pintsize the chuckles.
Unless you think the robot revolution is really going to come.
Not that I'd say no to that...
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Curiously. Did anyone else go to Google images and put in Gina Riversmith?
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You could, uh.. not vote?
That being the only option available, that is what I did, but it does leave me feeling VERY excluded ;)
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woah, she has a blog?
http://countrysuxx.net/
So, for all you who say Faye's doing harmless venting, if, over the next few weeks on the blog we see stuff like—
- AnthroPC I never saw before threw a dog turd at me today
- Icemaker in hotel broke down today. Lots of little round footprints
- Tire spiked on the van. Third time this month. Still all those little footprints around it
- Took me forever to convince the rental people I'd had the equipment trailer for fifteen weeks, not fifteen months
- Every time I walk on the street I swear I hear someone saying "There's the country-whore." Got to get more sleep.
- Went into the studio today. The backing tracks on the server for "He's hunky (but I'm chunky)" now sing "Slut-monkey" in 16-part harmony.
- Every day there's some glitch in this track. Wish I'd never got the lyrics for "He's hunky" from that Bianchi guy.
Well, you can all 'fess up to your lameness.
Sooner or later, we all feel excluded, Mali. Grow from it.* Meanwhile, I think any modification of Hanners can only result in improvement. Though I wonder how the Roomba's gonna do that without hands.
*Edit. Sorry. That was snarky. But I'm so very happy to have the poll back. Let's all try to refrain from grousing about it for a fews weeks, at least.
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You know, Jeph didn't register that domain, so it must have been a reader. (I ran a whois...)
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woah, she has a blog?
http://countrysuxx.net/
Man, Jeph's characters are going to own the entire internet by next year.
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lol, miss chunky is feeling jealous.
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Curiously. Did anyone else go to Google images and put in Gina Riversmith?
I did. I didn't expect the real results to match the comic results, but I was kind of hoping that Jeph had spammed Google Images so that they would match.
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About the robot revolution...
I believe the first ones against the wall will be the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
I'm sure Jeph agrees.
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Typical reaction. Don't feel mad at the person who hurt you, no. It is completely reasonable to be mad at the person who had no intention of hurting anybody.
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Curiously. Did anyone else go to Google images and put in Gina Riversmith?
I did. I didn't expect the real results to match the comic results, but I was kind of hoping that Jeph had spammed Google Images so that they would match.
YES. I was at least hoping for more than just Sven's twitter image. :lol:
But I was amused by the cute kitty pictures.
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I think that if there was a robot revolution, a unanimous consensus would be made by the Anthro PCs to make HK-47 their patron God.
That or the Terminator...they'd probably find Arnie and actually turn him into one. That'd be absolutely terrifying.
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Curiously. Did anyone else go to Google images and put in Gina Riversmith?
I did. I didn't expect the real results to match the comic results, but I was kind of hoping that Jeph had spammed Google Images so that they would match.
*raises hand*
*on both counts*
:3
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Demmit Joker, you beat me to my idle worship of Jeph for his Hitchhiker's reference. Down with the marketing division!
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I guess I can understand why Faye would focus her anger onto Gina. If she really cares about Sven and whatever they have together, she would find it hard to be mad at Sven (even though it's obviously his fault). It's a lot easier to direct her anger towards the innocent girl that "seduced" her man. :wink:
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I was actually highly amused to see that googling Gina Riversmith images brings up raoullefere's avatar picture on the second row. Wooo raoullefere! =D
Ahem. back on topic; Yeah she's just venting in an attempt to not kill Sven. I'm not sure if I want Sven to turn up and try and apologize (only to get his ass kicked) or if I want Marten to turn up and get his ass kicked, thus making Faye realize how horrible she is as a friend.
choices... choices...
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Also, are one of the links indicating that Gina had laser surgery to remove spider veins? :o
I thought it had something to do with Laser Tag. But I could be wrong.
(Hmm, wonder if someone is going to reserve the domain of laserfight.org?) :?
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Admittedly, everyone secretly expected Sven to cheat on Faye. Thus it is harder to be mad at him, and easier to be mad at Gina.
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I'm not sure if I want Sven to turn up and try and apologize (only to get his ass kicked) or if I want Marten to turn up and get his ass kicked, thus making Faye realize how horrible she is as a friend.
choices... choices...
Judging my Sven's reluctance to confront Faye, I'm going to say he's hiding in the corner of his linen closet with the lights off jumping at every little noise in fear of someone trying to attack.
As for the second option, Martin seems like the kind of guy who asks permission before he beats up one of your ex's.
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Yeah, I hate when people do that "blame the innocent party because I don't know them" thing- happens all the time.
Fay, although as right as she is to be pissed off and hurt, should also be glad that he told her without trying to hide it or sleep with her first. It would have hurt so much more if this had happened, when she finally did find out.
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woah, she has a blog?
http://countrysuxx.net/
Now we just need some of the musicians in these parts to record one of Sven's songs under Gina's name, get it onto iTunes, then if every reader of QC bought a copy...
just how many readers are there? 10,000? more?
You know, Jeph didn't register that domain, so it must have been a reader. (I ran a whois...)
one of Jeph's friends maybe?
Man, Jeph's characters are going to own the entire internet by next year.
QC revolution!!!!!!
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This is the second obviously-PA-inspired death stare in a week. Is Jeph's usage just hipster irony after Tim used it??!?! only time will tell
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I can believe Faye's anger, as I had it towards my ex's boyfriend. Whilst I could never harm my ex (physically), I wish i could pummel her boyfriend. but nope, I gotta be better than him, and that includes not stealing someone from him, even if he stole her from me.
Anyway... I sometimes wish that there was a robot revolution, seeing who would sacrifice themselves for another.
As for the poll, definantly the cyborg lesbian, I know that is the most far fetched, and that jeff would never do it. That is why I would like it to be made.
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Guys I searched GIna Riversmith on images with out safe on and this one of the images that came up.
(http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/368/368563/pages/993467/myjet0014.jpg)
raoulleferes Avatar?
It also linked to the Febuary 2-6 WCT.
NVMd I noticed someone already mentioned it
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Now we just need some of the musicians in these parts to record one of Sven's songs under Gina's name, get it onto iTunes, then if every reader of QC bought a copy...
just how many readers are there? 10,000? more?
There are 20,000+ registered users in the forum, though not all are still active of course.
Common wisdom on such things is that <10% of readers ever bother posting.
So if everybody did actually buy the song, we could very possibly chart it.
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(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4634/whatyoureallyget.png)
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hay hay guise there's my avatar in the bottom center.
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:-D
Anyway, pre-emptively saving the poll results NOW.
Faye spends too much time alone, becomes emo. 11 (8.5%)
Sven goes into denial and emotinoally removes himself from his sex life. 22 (16.9%)
Dora pisses Faye off by not being concerned enough. 9 (6.9%)
Marten sides with Sven, and eventually moves out. 13 (10%)
The roomba slips into Hannelore's room and turns her into a cyborg lesbian. 75 (57.7%)
EDIT: Wow. Jeph's art is fan-diddly-tastic. Really.
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New comic. w00t.
Not surprised nobody likes Sven in the comic anymore.
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Awww, Marten is such a great friend. He makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. *sigh* I can sleep happy tonight. Yay. :-)
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just how many readers are there? 10,000? more?
I remember Jeph saying something about 100,000 unique views...back at like comic 100...can't find which one.
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Faye is not drunk!
Maybe this is progress and she's learning to handle her pain instead of knocking herself out to avoid it.
Or maybe that first statement should be "Faye is not drunk yet".
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If my Project Wonderful stats are right, QC gets around 250,000 unique visitors on update days. So in reality less than 1% of my readership posts here regularly.
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awww that's what I like to see! Good old Faye/Marten kinship again!
I miss the bond they used to have.
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Option four on this poll makes me think of the old Seinfeld commercial about "Bear Week." Damned if I can remember what it was actually pushing. Anyway, after Penny's Perilous Park* incident, I can see Wil atoning by becoming a bear expert. Or bear dinner.
*Aliteration: the hallmark of a quality post. Though of what quality, we ain't sayin'.
Edit: Jeez, it was hell getting this to post. What I get for trying when the new comic went up. Anyway, let me be the first to point out to all familiar with Elizabethan culture the double meaning 'asshole cod' could have. Yeah, I know it's not exact, but it still amuses me.
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It's been a long while since there's been just a Faye and Marten comic, hasn't it? It was nice.
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awww that's what I like to see! Good old Faye/Marten kinship again!
I miss the bond they used to have.
You mean back when he used to "secretly" lust for her, and she used to pummel him for the slightest misstep? Yeah, those were good times. :roll:
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awww that's what I like to see! Good old Faye/Marten kinship again!
I miss the bond they used to have.
You mean back when he used to "secretly" lust for her, and she used to pummel him for the slightest misstep? Yeah, those were good times. :roll:
In that last panel, if he were to move his (off screen) hand just a little, I bet it would break her out of her mood.
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Woa, lots of frames and talk this time.
Atm, "Gina Riversmith" brings up my Avatar in the Google Image Search ! LOL
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awww that's what I like to see! Good old Faye/Marten kinship again!
I miss the bond they used to have.
You mean back when he used to "secretly" lust for her, and she used to pummel him for the slightest misstep? Yeah, those were good times. :roll:
you can look at it that way if you want to be a negative nancy.
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Good on Marten. I like the way he found a way to cheer Faye up. The mark of a true friend.
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I still like Sven..
Also I agree with the yay Marten and Faye Comic
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It's kind of bizarre, something similar to this is happening in my life.
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Where's Marten's hand?
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Oh I just got that offscreen hand thing.
Boobies!
Everyone loves boobies.
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Good on Marten. I like the way he found a way to cheer Faye up. The mark of a true friend.
So if you cannot do that, you cannot be a good friend ?
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Today's comic made me realise my unconcious ship for Marten and Faye. Couldn't stop myself from checking quickly before I read it for any kisses. Which I totally expected.
Damnit *smacks head against wall*
they'd be a wonderful couple but I love Dora <3 she deserves Marten. But so does Faye. Marten needs a clone.
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[...]they'd be a wonderful couple but I love Dora <3 she deserves Marten. But so does Faye. Marten needs a clone.
Too bad Martin isn't a Time Lord so that his previously severed hand can regrow into a half Time Lord/half human mortal version of himself to leave with Rose Tyler Faye.
Though, Pintsize is about halfway between a Dalek and K9...
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Good on Marten. I like the way he found a way to cheer Faye up. The mark of a true friend.
So if you cannot do that, you cannot be a good friend ?
No, just not a TRUE friend.
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You mean back when he used to "secretly" lust for her, and she used to pummel him for the slightest misstep? Yeah, those were good times. :roll:
you can look at it that way if you want to be a negative nancy.
You're right. I'm so wrong. Obsessive infatuation and violent alcoholism are two of the best things in life.
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in regards to bear week:
http://www.nataliedee.com/010509/welcome-to-bear-week.jpg
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Domo really let himself go.
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[...]they'd be a wonderful couple but I love Dora <3 she deserves Marten. But so does Faye. Marten needs a clone.
Too bad Martin isn't a Time Lord so that his previously severed hand can regrow into a half Time Lord/half human mortal version of himself to leave with Rose Tyler Faye.
Though, Pintsize is about halfway between a Dalek and K9...
Ahah, maybe Jeph will run out of ideas and it will happen :O
BUT ROSE FAYE WILL GO AND LIVE IN A PARALELL UNIVERSE ;__;
And she will only return once in a crappy cameo series-end and everyone will hate it.
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And every night, in your dreams, you'll see her; you'll feel her. That is how you'll know she goes on. :evil:
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Where's Marten's hand?
It just partaking in a good old fashion covert cop 8-)
It happens a lot between coed friends... :wink:
It will release endorphins, makes her feel better.... yeah... :roll:
It is completely innocent :angel:
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Somehow, the smilies make that creepier.
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Sweetness and humor! Excellent work, Mr. Jacques!
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Somehow, the smilies make that creepier.
Yes, they do.
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Time for Raoullefere's believe-it-or-nots.
- When I wrote the title "He's Hunky (But I'm Chunky)" I honestly didn't think of it referring to Faye's being a bit zaftig.
- I really do think 'asshole cod' has a funny double entendre. Maybe even triple.
- I didn't realize I double-posted last night (don't look for it--I deleted it a few minutes ago). My internets weren't working well last night.
- I missed the giant splash of my avatar last night. I still can't believe I did this, but I'm guessing it didn't load for the above reasons. Or maybe I was in too great of a hurry to spew my post. I really liked the Bear Week commercial. Wish I could find it.
- And I did not make a blog for that woman. I figure Jeph can have his characters take over the internets on his own.
- I think the Borneo Snake photo is a fake. I didn't take it, either. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/4701906/Photograph-shows-giant-snake-lurking-in-Borneo-river.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/4701906/Photograph-shows-giant-snake-lurking-in-Borneo-river.html)
- I never protest too much.
Long and pointless, I know, but I felt it all just had to be said.
And, oh god, don't bring up Rose Tyler, ViridianStar. I detest that character with a passion. Mopey, over-emotive, Electra-complexed wretch.
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The Patterson film looks more realistic than either of those photos, as does some of the alleged photos of Champ (http://www.csicop.org/si/2003-07/monster.html) and Ogopogo (http://www.ogopogoquest.com/beliveau_sighting.html)
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@Raoullefere-Awww, I like Rose. Maybe its because I am an over-emotive 20-something with two inch long roots. Hmmmm..?:-o
Anyways, wow, 250,000 unique readers Jeph? Good job!!
Also, @whoever said "no one likes Sven anymore", I still like Sven. I don't think he has made the greatest decision ever but everyone makes mistakes, even comic characters. And sometimes there are people you just like for no good reason. I have plenty of friends with plenty of faults and I overlook them (the faults) because at the end of the day I like hanging out with those poeple.
Plus, he's cute. If I were in this comic I would totally hook up with him. :wink:
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If you're talking about me, I was more referring to in-comic characters. Sorry for not being clear.
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For what, the two hours before he threw you your pants and called you a cab. Or better yet, told you where the bus stop was. He's a womanizing jerk. Some women prefer that, but I ain't gonna like him for it. He made a mistake he'd likely make a million more times in his life.
I'm just surprised Faye didn't do anything stabbity or burn...ity, yet. C'mon, get with the violence. Even her therapist would advise that!
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Yeah. I guess. I don't think I would want to date him, but hook-up. I mean, why not? Some women don't mind a hook-up. Faye has trust issues, she was clearly incapable of not developing feelings. I never said I wanted to marry the guy. And he is likeable at the very least. People were discussing this in another thread-there are plenty of people who are likeable or charming but not good(Sven) and people who are good but not necessarily likeable(Faye).
Also Faye's violence wasn't healthy for her so I'm happy she didn't flip her shit over this but walked away and practiced normal copeing. Although since it's a comic I would have laughed anyway if she got the VespAvenger out of retirement.
If you're talking about me, I was more referring to in-comic characters. Sorry for not being clear.
Oops, you're right. And you were clear I was just a sloppy skimmer. My bad.
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Still biding. So many possible roads to take, but I'm sure Jeph will take the one that causes the most pain. :)
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Good on Marten. I like the way he found a way to cheer Faye up. The mark of a true friend.
So if you cannot do that, you cannot be a good friend ?
No, that's not what I meant at all!!!!!
But I think you know that.
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For what, the two hours before he threw you your pants and called you a cab? Or better yet, told you where the bus stop was.
I don't think Sven is quite that bad. He seems to be more the "I'll phone you" and never does, fake address type of guy. Which may or may not be worse, since the approach Wyr describes is at least direct,
It's also a really funny line.
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Well, at least Faye can turn a cry-fest into a snark-fest. It just might help her get over the whole Sven episode. I just hope that we can see some good coming out of this. Right after seeing Jeph put them all through the wringer. :wink:
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WOAH.
Bitchsmack.
Wow. I felt that one.
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Oh god. That was funny.
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Hah. That is like the best opening for a comic ever. (Other than zombies spewing acid)
*SMACK*
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That was one hell of a hit. That was pretty awesome.
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Sven got pwn't! Though his little bit about how he "never said I wouldn't fuck anyone else" sounds like he's trying to convince himself, or like he's making an excuse that he's well-aware is crap. Gina's the first other woman he's banged for months (or so we can assume) and it's obvious he's been showing SOME restraint up until this point.
*bitchslap* :lol: 'Tis awesome!
By the way... thank you, Mr. Jacques, for this: http://tinyurl.com/dghvd2
You have successfully broken my mind.
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[...]they'd be a wonderful couple but I love Dora <3 she deserves Marten. But so does Faye. Marten needs a clone.
Too bad Martin isn't a Time Lord so that his previously severed hand can regrow into a half Time Lord/half human mortal version of himself to leave with Rose Tyler Faye.
Though, Pintsize is about halfway between a Dalek and K9...
LOL. Who and QC, two awesome things.
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I really really really (times infinity) hope that sven does not think that he's off the hook because he was "honest"
he needs to hear he is a piece of shit, for pete's sake. maybe if he thought about his actions Dora wouldn't have to say it. There was previous debate about "Friends: people who give you a shoulder to cry on or people who whip your ass into shape when you need it." I think there are cases for both sides, and right now Sven needs the ass whipping.
I'm glad that Dora is defending Faye in such a way, though I'm not sure if Faye will be happy about the protection. She does not seem like the type who likes to be protected.
also, i think the "i never said I'd fuck anyone else" line is fair. Although, if sven felt bad about fucking Ms. Riversmith whilst he was doing it then he obviously realizes that this is NOT a legitimate excuse.
I hope Dora knocks some sense into him.
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Wow!!!!
I saw something like this coming though. Thank god she left her sword at home!!
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Fighting Ninjas in Japan (nevermind that huge ocean between them) 10 (10.8%)
Composing 100 Haikus to be etched into the Grand Canyon 37 (39.8%)
Abducted by aliens (perhaps they're just buzzing him) 8 (8.6%)
Sleeping in bear habitats, learning their culture 24 (25.8%)
Wil slips into Hannelore's room and turns her into a cyborg lesbian. 14 (15.1%)
So here is a new poll, My philosophy is "you do it right or you do something great for reasons that are completely different".
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haha yeah, i like sven
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Dora is the reason Sven has that automated cringe reaction around angry women.
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Also, I just noticed the 3rd panel is freakin' awesome
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I just figure if Sven knew he didn't want to abide by 'da rulez' then he should have told her so. It's his own damn fault.
I do not, however, deny liking Sven. I've known enough guys like him to know most of them are actually good people. Who like sex too much. Oh well. There are worse things to be addicted to. Like murder. :-D
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Both of them were talking about the real issues! This doesn't always happen with Dora.
Sven must be feeling guilty, because he's being defensive instead of going on the offense. He didn't say "She wouldn't commit, she wouldn't even goddam go out with me, she treated me like her fucking VIBRATOR, and she thinks she's got something to say about my sex life beyond 'did you use protection?'"
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Because sometimes I like playing with matches in the room with all the open jars of nitroglycerin ...
How different would people's reaction to the strip be in the roles were reversed, Dora cheated on Marten and Sven's first reaction was a left hook that knocked her to the floor? :cry:
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WOAH.
Bitchsmack.
Wow. I felt that one.
Seconded.
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In 1307, Sven told her explicitly "This isn't a monogamous relationship".
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The smaller you are the more violence you can get away with.
So Dora being the younger sister can smack Sven in the face, He couldnt do the same
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I just figure if Sven knew he didn't want to abide by 'da rulez' then he should have told her so. It's his own damn fault.
I do not, however, deny liking Sven. I've known enough guys like him to know most of them are actually good people. Who like sex too much. Oh well. There are worse things to be addicted to. Like murder. :-D
What rules?
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1307
I know some people have mentioned it, but maybe a link will help it sink in better.
Sven: this is not a monogamous relationship
Faye: but if you sleep with someone else its over
Sven: ok
Seems like they understood each other just fine. Doesn't Sven's not an asshole, nor that Faye isn't justified in being angry and heartbroken.
Granted, i was still really hopin' for a remorse-addled Sven with FeralStubble talking to the Tequila Monster about his woes
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In 1307, Sven told her explicitly "This isn't a monogamous relationship".
ah good point. didn't she reply "i'll still leave your ass if you do it with someone else reguardless"?
Not that exactly, but they never came to a real agreement about this i guess.
I understand why faye's upset in any case.
edit: i also just saw you commented further. i get it i get it. i'm with you on the fact that i was hoping he would show that smarmy isn't his only face, too. he obviously feels guilty and that satisfies me a lil bit.
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I was totally hoping for a Marten-Faye make out session, but I know it would fuck everything up.
I love this arc, btw, it's soooo good. The art gets better and better and the storyline does, too.
I still like Sven. I like Dora and Marten and Faye, too. And Hannelore...ok, so I like everyone.
If my Project Wonderful stats are right, QC gets around 250,000 unique visitors on update days. So in reality less than 1% of my readership posts here regularly.
Hot damn! That's a lot of readers.
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MAJOR PWNAGE! :evil:
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Sven is irredeemable shit-for-brains.
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Sven is irredeemable shit-for-brains.
That kind of judgment is why we can't have nice things. Sven is precisely as flawed as anyone else in the strip (and a good bit less so than Faye I'd say) and his actions have not at all been out of line. He's dealing with people much more fragile than himself, so he could use a bit more tact and perhaps a couple sacrifices to his sex life wouldn't do him a whole lot of harm (even if not for his own sake), but he hasn't done anything that wouldn't be totally fine if the people in his life were actually emotionally healthy.
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On the other hand, I think if Dora would have just given him The Stare and said, "You fucked up," he would have agreed.
But then we wouldn't have gotten Jeph's cool art from this strip.
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Good on Marten. I like the way he found a way to cheer Faye up. The mark of a true friend.
So if you cannot do that, you cannot be a good friend ?
No, just not a TRUE friend.
Oh, this even only keeps getting better.
So your definition of "true" friends includes the ability to sweet-talk ?
Someone who is bad with words cannot be a true friend ?
I was totally hoping for a Marten-Faye make out session, but I know it would fuck everything up.
Eww. Honestly, you're sick.
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Dora made the case against Sven succinctly. Even though he warned her ahead of time, he still had to have known that Faye would be hurt. If you do something that you know is going to hurt someone, you better have a good reason.
Sven-haters could also seize on the fact that he said "I'm sorry she's hurt" instead of "I'm sorry I hurt her".
I am parsing nuances in the heat-of-the-moment statements of a fictional character and analyzing his ethics from contractual and utilitarian points of view. I should get a life.
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Put me on the "Sven's made a mistake but isn't the devil" side. He should have picked up that Faye was emotionally fragile and really made it clear that he wasn't interested in being monogamous unless it was a proper relationship.
Someone mentioned Sven having gone months without sleeping with another girl. I wouldn't put too much weight in the dora-haircut-timejump in this case. Until we hear how long Sven and Faye have been "together" I'd probably assume it was a couple of weeks.
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I am totally on Sven's side of this. Faye tried to have her cake and eat it too and it got her burned. Sven was totally honest about everything form the get go. He was honest about the possibility of him sleeping around and he was honest about it once it happened. Sven. Did. Nothing. Wrong.
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Sven did nothing wrong? Trust me, I don't think Sven should be grouped in as an EVIL BAD PERSON like some people are doing, but I still think he did something wrong - he deeply hurt someone that obviously means something to him.
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I'm getting a bit puzzled about some people here. May I direct you kindly back to reading strip #1334 again ?
> "... this is not the best behavior, but its just some innocent kissing."
> "This is beginning to be ... bad."
> "Okay now I'm officiall screwed"
=> Sven knew it was a bad idea even when it happened.
This "oh but he was so honest" thing some people have going on here ignores the fact that Sven totally knew he was doing wrong - and he felt bad about it while doing it, too.
The point here is that he is NOT honest, as he is fooling himself.
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"she was a good time" ? ouch :(
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SMACK!
Hahaha
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I'll admit it...I had to google "self-immolate".
"I liked Faye, she was the best sorta stable completely crazy fuck I've had!"
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I'll admit it...I had to google "self-immolate".
Same :oops:
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Oh, this even only keeps getting better.
So your definition of "true" friends includes the ability to sweet-talk ?
Someone who is bad with words cannot be a true friend ?
It was a joke.
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Sven did nothing wrong? Trust me, I don't think Sven should be grouped in as an EVIL BAD PERSON like some people are doing, but I still think he did something wrong - he deeply hurt someone that obviously means something to him.
Agree, and if Sven didn't think that he did something wrong, why does he feel bad about it?
It's a gender reversal of "the Lady doth protest too much"
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He was questioning himself as he was doing it. Generally that's a sign that you know you're doing The Wrong Thing.
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He was also drunk at the time. I think if he was sober at the time they wouldn't have done it. :p Being drunk tends to do that to you.
Sven's still on my favorites list. He feels bad that he hurt her at least.
Now who's betting on Sven going out to get some air and finding Steve living in a box?
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Yes or No: Is it possible to do something that is Not wrong, but still feel bad about it?
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Yes or No: Is it possible to do something that is Not wrong, but still feel bad about it?
Oh sure it is -- for some folks, guilt is an automatic reactions. Not Sven, I'm guessing, but for some. It has more to do with how you feel about yourself than what actually happened.
I have bided. Biding is complete.
On the comic -- great perspectives! Nice work. "Self-immolation" line was excellent.
On Dora/Sven violence -- it's built into the strip at this point, and like it or not, people do this kind of stuff. I don't personally approve or condone physical violence and I don't think size, gender, or age gives someone a "right" or an out on the subject. However, Mr. Jacques is neither required to shape his art as an ideal society of ideal people, nor is that going to make a good comic that more or less reflects what happens in the world. It is a comic. Like a book, a tv show, a movie, or any other form of entertainment that doesn't suit, it can be Not Looked At. I have serious doubts that the artis has an agenda to support woman on man violence. We tend to react to pain by either crying, laughing, or getting angry (there are other reactions, but I'd rather not go there). He's going for the laugh, not the political statement.
On Sven being an ass/Sven hate -- Yeah, his language is full of the "not my fault" nuances. He's not yet taking big responsibility for it, although I'd venture this is probably the MOST responsibility he's EVER taken. We have no evidence that he's ever even had the THOUGHT that his actions might hurt someone. I've said it before -- this is new ground for Sven. It's going to take him more than two days (since we are still on the Sunday-After-The-Concert) to really process this and grow. Moreover, he's not doing the one thing to guarantee his assholery -- he isn't blaming anyone else. He isn't saying "Look, it's her fault for..." or "Look, it was the alcohol..." or anything like that. Assholery is doing something that causes pain to others, and then blaming others.
On It Being Faye's Fault -- yes, it is, at least in part. No matter what excuses are thrown up, she has to be allowed responsibility for her own choices. No one promised her candy. No one tied her up and forced her into sex with Sven. She wasn't ordered by the Ghost of her father, all Hamlet style. She's intelligent and responsible for herself. If she made choices that ended in her getting hurt, she still made the choices along the way -- what's more, she KNOWS it. She said it in the strip with Marten. Don't deny her the province of adulthood. None of that means her hurt isn't valid, or any bullshit about "she deserved it". Faye doesn't deserve to be hurt, but, yeah, she can do things that result in being hurt.
Whoa, diatribe. Ok, last things.
I'm really surprised at the nuance and depth this comic has achieved. It's VERY involving.
Time for new biding.
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Faye is a bit of a pussy for running and crying to everyone about her one night stand arrangements.
Sven may be at fault to an extent, but he has nothing to do with her impression of what "relationship" idea Faye was getting.
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Faye is a bit of a pussy for running and crying to everyone about her one night stand arrangements.
It was originally a one-night stand arrangement, and then it became a friends-with-benefits arrangement. And then I think Faye (and Sven to some extent) were just beginning to suspect it could grow into something more meaningful.
If Sven had gone a-screwin' soon after the first Faye/Sven hookup, Faye would have gotten a bit pissed off (mostly at herself), shrugged, and moved on. She was just beginning to believe that maybe Sven could really have changed, when it was rubbed in her face that he hasn't. At least not on the outside. It is interesting that nobody except Sven knows that he was regretting his actions while he was doing them, and for the first time Sven has been hurt by his own actions. This might be a big life lesson for him. Maybe he has changed, but unfortunately he's sacrificed Faye in the process.
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Faye's hurt - Sven's grown (if only a TINY bit), and they both learned something...
...I think.
It bugs me a little that he's still being non-apologetic in a way - but he was honest at least.
Meh.
**sits and waits for the next comic**
:-D
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Faye is a bit of a pussy for running and crying to everyone about her one night stand arrangements.
Do you really think so? A very typical reaction for a girl is to cry on a friend's shoulder. I think that she shows healing and getting out of her crazy box by running to Dora instead of drinking or whatever. She is also exhibiting a lot of trust in Dora, so that is very good for their friendship, which got all weird when Dora and Marten got together.
Sven, however... he KNEW it was wrong, but he still did it. I hope he takes his brain out of his pants some more and hopefully he will see what he did to Faye (yeah yeah, I know, she did part of this to herself) and maybe offer some token of apology? Or maybe try to patch it up? I dunno, I LIKED Svaye! :cry:
Faye = healthy response so far
Sven = dumbass
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Drat you, Mali-Kite, them's my lines. Ah, well. I will add that, except for setting the AnthroPCs on poor Gina, Faye's handling this pretty well. It's just a shame she had to invest, whether she meant to or not, so much in a guaranteed train wreck. But I haven't seen her say "how could he do this to me?" Rather, it's been, "I should have known, but it still hurts." I think that's about as objective as she can get at this point, and it gives me hopes she can pick herself up and try again.
As for Sven, all I can say is HA HA!, to quote the kid from the Simpsons. If I had any doubts, the "She was a good time," remark dispelled them: I have a real problem with objectifying people who think you at least have friendly feelings towards them.
For those who wish to protest the smacking and whackings (okay, just a smacking) on Sven's poor tender head*, how many times has Sven said Dora would kill him if he slept with one of her friends? It seems that was a promise, not a threat. To paraphrase Tennessee Williams, Sven and Dora have had this date coming from the beginning.
The panel with Dora looming over Sven is awesome.
*It's my day for quoting. That's from Lloyd Alexander's The Chronicles of Prydain.
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Yeah, that "she was a good time" line definitely means he's being an asshole.
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Yeah, that "she was a good time" line definitely means he's being an asshole.
Is that actually what he thinks or is it a defense mechanism?
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[rabblerouse]
Isn't this generally when Skawronska jumps in and says "WAHAHAHA FAYE'S IN PAIN THIS IS SO GIVING ME A BONER I NEED A DRINK BURN FAYE BURN", thus elegantly refuting the existing argument that Sven's being kind of a prick and Faye's handling it fairly well?
[/rabblerouse]
I think I'm getting the hang of these-here forum thingies.
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Faye is a bit of a pussy for running and crying to everyone about her one night stand arrangements.
When guys run crying to their friends they're called pussies for acting like girls. Faye is actually a girl. :-o
The male instinct is not to show weakness, especially when hurt, while females, who are more communicative by nature, turn to others for support. In Faye's case this is a huge step forward. She's been damaged and so generally keeps things in because she can't trust those around her. This leads to drinking and violence for her. That she's trusting these people and not doing something destructive to cope is just another sign that she's dealing with her issues.
Sven does seem to be objectifying Faye with the good time statement, but in the very same speech bubble he said that he liked her. Maybe he's trying to put the whole situation on a level he's comfortable with. He's not used to caring about a girls feelings when he screws them over. I think it bothers him that this time he does and he's trying to relegate Faye to the same status as the others.
He says he's sorry for hurting her and he stresses that he never made her promises. So I don't see it as him being unapologetic, I see it as him not willing to be raked across the coals for something he made no commitments about.
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Doing something that you know will bring pain, emotional or otherwise, to others is still pretty poor behaviour for a person.
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I find it interesting that Sven is using the defense "I was honest!" over and over again, despite the fact that he told his intern that he was planning to hide his actions from Faye. Honesty is a good thing, but being honest, in this case, is only good as far as being the minimum consideration Faye deserves. Being honest is not, however, what Sven intended to do. The way I see it, that makes Sven more of a jerk more than anything else he did.
That being said, at least he gave Faye fair warning that this might happen beforehand. In this strip, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1307) after Sven says he might fuck someone else, Faye's remark is "If you fuck someone else, I'll leave" when she could have said "Well, then I'm leaving now." I can sympathize with her for feeling hurt, but she must've known this was coming. (er... no pun intended) :)
p.s. Regarding the poll, go Ganymede! Second place! Whoo-hoo! :D
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I find it interesting that Sven is using the defense "I was honest!" over and over again, despite the fact that he told his intern that he was planning to hide his actions from Faye. Honesty is a good thing, but being honest, in this case, is only good as far as being the minimum consideration Faye deserves. Being honest is not, however, what Sven intended to do. The way I see it, that makes Sven more of a jerk more than anything else he did.
Maybe Sven is so used to apologizing for having an affair behind a girls back,that the apologizing for a one night stand that he was honest about is something he isn't used to.
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Doing something that you know will bring pain, emotional or otherwise, to others is still pretty poor behaviour for a person.
Well put.
Whether or not you believe what he did was actually wrong, it still hurt her. which is what sucks.
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Happily Dora let Sven live to see another day. :wink:
I just wonder if maybe a good brother/sister talk might do some good. It may help Sven iron out some of his feelings. Having no siblings of my own I'm not exactly sure how the dynamic works but I hear a good person to help you sort yourself out is a sibling. Dora won't sugarcoat things and Sven won't have to hide anything from her because even if she hates what he does she will still love him...maybe.
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I'm kinda hoping to see some angry grudge make-up sex between Faye and Sven.
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While my sympathies are not with Sven here (as others have said, his 'honest' defense rings hollow), I did think he scored a point with the "we're not TEN YEARS OLD anymore" comment.
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On a side note, Sven's unphased reaction to Dora's slap and saying "we're not 10 anymore" suggests Dora might not have been quite the downtrodden little sister she claims to be. A complete non-reaction to being hit suggests this isn't the first time.
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Look you think I'm happy about this? I liked Faye. She was a good time
Am I the only person to get that Sven is not happy about this but not willing to recognise that he's the architect of his own unhappiness here?
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Considering that several others have already pointed out that Sven is not happy with himself... no, I'd hazard a guess that you're not the only one.
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I just figure if Sven knew he didn't want to abide by 'da rulez' then he should have told her so. It's his own damn fault.
I do not, however, deny liking Sven. I've known enough guys like him to know most of them are actually good people. Who like sex too much. Oh well. There are worse things to be addicted to. Like murder. :-D
I would disagree.
Because sometimes I like playing with matches in the room with all the open jars of nitroglycerin ...
How different would people's reaction to the strip be in the roles were reversed, Dora cheated on Marten and Sven's first reaction was a left hook that knocked her to the floor? :cry:
I'd say she'd deserve it.
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I'm a girl, and I have used the phrase "she was a good time" to describe women I have been with before and didn't mean it disrespectfully. It is just accurate. I wasn't in love with them, but I liked them and I liked spending time with them. I think that is what Sven is saying, he likes Faye and he liked being with her.
If you enjoy the time you spend with someone but don't have deep feeling for them, then how is saying they are a good time bad?
Did he hurt her? Yes. Does this make him an asshole? I don't think so. If he didn't care that she was hurt, then he would be an asshole.
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To be fair, unless Sven contracted a disease, it's really none of Faye's business who he sleeps with... They're not in a relationship. He really didn't need to tell Faye at all, but he did anyway and now he's reaping the inevitable drama that comes from that.
Which just goes to show you: never listen to women, Sven.
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Well if he did that that would conclude everybody's claim of his douchebagery....and if he did keep that to himself after the fact and kept seeing Faye I don't see how that would have worked towards his favor any better.
Besides people should be aware that your partner is having "relations" with someone else no matter whether they have a disease...which is how the diseaes spread in the first place..which could happen that they don't know and things spread like wild fire
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I'm kinda hoping to see some angry grudge make-up sex between Faye and Sven.
i'll admit to this too. though...it won't fix anything.
To be fair, unless Sven contracted a disease, it's really none of Faye's business who he sleeps with... They're not in a relationship. He really didn't need to tell Faye at all, but he did anyway and now he's reaping the inevitable drama that comes from that.
Which just goes to show you: never listen to women, Sven.
annnnddd....what? are you a real person or just trying to get a rise?
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annnnddd....what? are you a real person or just trying to get a rise?
What? That's life, pal.
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To be fair, unless Sven contracted a disease, it's really none of Faye's business who he sleeps with... They're not in a relationship. He really didn't need to tell Faye at all, but he did anyway and now he's reaping the inevitable drama that comes from that.
Which just goes to show you: never listen to women, Sven.
Really? Faye laid down the conditions of her continued consent quite awhile ago. She told him if he slept with anyone else, she'd be gone. If Sven really wasn't happy with that, then he should have stopped sleeping with her. Just because she jumped him first doesn't mean she is obligated to continue sleeping with him under whatever circumstances he wishes. Any person has the right to make whatever conditions they want for their consent. If the other person finds these conditions unreasonable, then they should walk away. Since Sven didn't do this, he accepted her conditions whether he liked it or not.
Yeah he was being a jerk for hurting her for no good reason (apparently not even his own pleasure), but they weren't in a relationship so what he did wasn't quite cheating. It's not like he's beyond redemption or anything. He told her, she left. No yelling, no bone-breaking. They both acted according to the terms she laid out and he accepted by continuing their arrangement. Faye is within her rights to feel hurt, even if she should have known this was coming. Sven is within his rights to be upset at throwing away good times with Faye for one night in the sack that he didn't really enjoy that much anyway.
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Cyborg lesbians are fine, but Iapetus is even more awesome.
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That being said, at least he gave Faye fair warning that this might happen beforehand. In this strip, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1307) after Sven says he might fuck someone else, Faye's remark is "If you fuck someone else, I'll leave" when she could have said "Well, then I'm leaving now." I can sympathize with her for feeling hurt, but she must've known this was coming. (er... no pun intended) :)
To be absolutely fair, I believe that Sven should have manned up right then and there and said: "If you're not going to let me sleep with other people, then our relationship (such as it was) is over."
I don't hate Sven. I think he's been perfectly reasonable. He's even a good enough guy to feel bad about about hurting Faye's feelings. But if we're nitpicking, and playing the "coulda-woulda-shoulda" game... then Sven should have shot this drama in the face the second it was born - by refusing to sleep with the crazy girl. I mean really, what did HE expect would happen, sleeping with Faye? The girl's got more issues than a news-stand! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=809)!
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Drat you, Mali-Kite, them's my lines.
Soooorrrryyy ;) I'll send the braincell back to you. I don't think I damaged it...much. I washed it off and everything.
Ya know, the more I think of the whole "she was a good time" line, the more I think Sven is just trying to convince himself and anyone who is listening that he does NOT care. I mean, if he didn't care, why bother with the honesty thing? Why not just slither the usual way, or even continue banging Faye until the shit hit the fan? I mean, I can see lots of other potential slimy action here. I mean, he could have behaved like my exBF and denied everything while I had the newest bladder infection.
I've seen slime. Sven hasn't made it there yet. He COULD, yeah, and he might, but he still has potential. I'm holding out hope until Sven steps off the cliff into the realm of the irredeemable.
That said, "she was a good time", considering how little evidence we have of anything beyond Faye snarking at Sven/issuing threats and them boinking each other, what would he say? She's a nice person? (has she demonstrated that where he is concerned?) She was smart and funny (again, do we see anything indicating that with Sven in the room?). I think he came up with a reasonable assessment. She provided some good times and not a whole lot beyond.
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Cyborg lesbians are fine, but Iapetus is even more awesome.
At least someone agrees with me.
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Sven may have hurt Faye on another level too.
In 793, well before she jumped him, he said of Faye "She ... made me reconsider my priorities vis a vis casual sex". He turned down Eva, and Faye knew about it.
Actions speak louder than words, and those actions said "I respect you and care enough about your opinion to have it influence my lifestyle". That is a powerful statement and a deep compliment.
Now he has taken that away from her, with an action that says "My priorities about casual sex put it above something that was turning into an actual relationship" and "a drunk one night stand is more important than your opinion of me".
She could have been hurt even if somebody else had been in the bumping-friend position instead of her.
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I just figure if Sven knew he didn't want to abide by 'da rulez' then he should have told her so. It's his own damn fault.
I do not, however, deny liking Sven. I've known enough guys like him to know most of them are actually good people. Who like sex too much. Oh well. There are worse things to be addicted to. Like murder. :-D
I would disagree.
you disagree that being addicted sex is better than being addicted to murder?
yeah well that's definitely a matter of opinion. i'll give you that. :laugh:
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My first mistake: trying to argue with someone on the internet. these arguments never finish.
I disagree with your former statement, that's all. so much so that I considered the idea that you were expressing was to simply to get someone like me talkin'.
But I probably should have ignored it.
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I want a copy of the "The Big Book Of Kitty Pictures".
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I want a copy of the "The Big Book Of Kitty Pictures".
There's a book of kitten pictures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtX8nswnUKU&feature=channel_page
I'm wondering if this video inspired this strip at all?
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It was kind of a joke. I do follow "Cute Overload" as well as "I Can Has Cheezburger".
(Maybe this belongs in the "Guilty Pleasures" thread, instead.)
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OH NOEZ
FAYE WANTED ALCOHOL IN THAT BOOK
THAT MEANS THAT FAYE IS A CRAZY ALCOHOLIC AND SHOULD BURN IN HELL
OK, now nobody take that seriously, and I am going to facepalm if someone fucking AGREES with that comment. :lol:
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Well, at least Nat Geo are getting into the warm fuzzies market. Good money there. :D
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I'm kind of drawing a blank right now, so here is a list of some moons in our solar system.
Callisto 10 (7.4%)
Pandora 12 (8.9%)
Charon 15 (11.1%)
Ganymede 24 (17.8%)
Deimos 8 (5.9%)
Oberon 18 (13.3%)
Iapetus 4 (3%)
Triton slips into Hannelore's room and turns her into a cyborg lesbian 44 (32.6%)
Okay new poll, we're going to do some serious fisticuffs here.
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Because sometimes I like playing with matches in the room with all the open jars of nitroglycerin ...
How different would people's reaction to the strip be in the roles were reversed, Dora cheated on Marten and Sven's first reaction was a left hook that knocked her to the floor? :cry:
I'll bite. Since no one else has.
The real reason that would send people up in arms is less "Oh my god, a dude punched a chick" and more that it would be a completely different situation.
Firstly because if Dora cheated on Marten and Sven punched her his behavior would come off as a bit ridiculous seeing as how he has no place to judge or condemn people for their relationship habits. The dude hasn't had a long-term healthy relationship in god knows how long. People would be thinking "where the fuck does this guy get off?"
Secondly, Marten and Sven aren't bffs. If Marten gets his heart crushed by Dora sleeping around Sven doesn't have to give him a shoulder to cry on or even go out drinking with the guy. He doesn't work with him every day. The whole thing would effect him marginally less than the current scenario does Dora.
Not to mention the fact that Marten doesn't suffer from crippling intimacy, trust, and abandonment issues. The odds of a nasty breakup sending Marten into a possibly cataclysmic therapy relapse downward spiral are pretty slim. Though Faye seem to be handling things well enough, so far. So good for her.
Also, I'm with everyone on understanding why Faye might direct her anger at Gina Riversmith. I'm not saying it's justified or deserved, really. But I can see how it's a pretty normal reaction. Sometimes when someone you genuinely care about hurts you, you want to find a way so its not their fault. You want to believe how could they possibly do this to you, so you place all the blame on the third party and then it doesn't feel so much like the person you care about was out right cold heartedly disregarding your emotions.
Lastly, I wish people would stop referencing the convo from 1307 because it was a ridiculous exchange to begin with. Sven says things aren't monogamous and then Faye says, ok but no sleeping with anybody else. She basically just gave him the definition of monogamy! The whole thing was essentially Sven saying "Alright. I won't fuck any one else. Until, you know. I do."
Anyway, I'm doubting a rekindling is in store for any time in the near future at least. Faye is too angry/bitter and Sven is too prideful/stubborn.
Oh, this even only keeps getting better.
So your definition of "true" friends includes the ability to sweet-talk ?
Someone who is bad with words cannot be a true friend ?
You don't have to be good with words to have the ability to cheer someone up. My bf has the ability to shake me from the worst of panicky/depressed moods without saying much of anything at all, just by being there and having an arm. Same goes for my roommate, she breaks out the Dawsons Creek box set, ritz crackers, and easy cheese and within a few hours I feel better.
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I want a copy of the "The Big Book Of Kitty Pictures".
This is as close as I could find:
http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Cat-Shots/dp/0792273982 (http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Cat-Shots/dp/0792273982)
And this video: http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographics-Secret-Life-Cats/dp/0792296184 (http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographics-Secret-Life-Cats/dp/0792296184)
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There is also this one:
Cats In The Sun (http://www.amazon.com/Cats-Sun-Hans-Silvester/dp/B000EOU3KE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235626553&sr=1-1)
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DAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Hanners awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
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Having no siblings of my own I'm not exactly sure how the dynamic works but I hear a good person to help you sort yourself out is a sibling.
Ha ha. No. Unless, I suppose, you're wanting some advice to go against. That's been my experience, anyway. I'm sure someone is going to pipe up now and say, "My little/big/twin brother/sister knows me like no one else does." Probably true. It's that 'like' that's the kicker.
I've seen slime. Sven hasn't made it there yet. He COULD, yeah, and he might, but he still has potential. I'm holding out hope until Sven steps off the cliff into the realm of the irredeemable.
I agree he's not slime. Yet. But I get the feeling Sven has no idea how close his self-justification is bringing a state of oozing viscousness. I think most us of can agree Sven's reached a crossroads: grow, or grow slimy.
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Damn, I want that book so bad.
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Lastly, I wish people would stop referencing the convo from 1307 because it was a ridiculous exchange to begin with. Sven says things aren't monogamous and then Faye says, ok but no sleeping with anybody else. She basically just gave him the definition of monogamy! The whole thing was essentially Sven saying "Alright. I won't fuck any one else. Until, you know. I do."
Remember, though... Sven just referenced it, too. So, even if it's ridiculous, it's in play...
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I've seen slime. Sven hasn't made it there yet. He COULD, yeah, and he might, but he still has potential. I'm holding out hope until Sven steps off the cliff into the realm of the irredeemable.
I agree he's not slime. Yet. But I get the feeling Sven has no idea how close his self-justification is bringing a state of oozing viscousness. I think most us of can agree Sven's reached a crossroads: grow, or grow slimy.
Oh, agreed, agreed in a large way. He's on that cliff edge. I'm just holding out a hope that he will back away slowly, turn around, and decide to be a little more decent. He doesn't have to go whole hog, as perfect people are incredibly annoying, but a little sincere introspection is in order.
As for the sibling thing -- no one can get on your case like a sib, especially if you are close (if you aren't then it's either they are bored or they are sadistic). I think Dora's reaction is, at least a little, that she feels 1) his behavior reflects on her, so if he's an ass, she's caught in the ass aura 2) She has a pretty high moral standard for herself (I mean, come on, beating yourself up because you date a guy another girl REFUSED to date? Them's some high standards) and it might be a bit tough to have near-slime as a brother. 3) She senses Sven is coasting now, but has a major meltdown in his future, and because she loves him, she will kick his ass until he wakes up before he's swirling down the toilet.
And, of course, in dramatic narrative terms, watching a near-slime move up the chain is more interesting, because there's always room for slippage and so forth.
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Does Faye seem thinner in these last few strips?
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First time I've heard of that website - so Jeph you can direct the comments to:
Border Reiver
3rd granite boulder to the right of the big pine tree
Ottawa ON Canada
I hope that they have enough toothpaste in the apartment though, that much saccharine will give you tooth decay faster than "Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs"
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Does Faye seem thinner in these last few strips?
Having sex with Sven is good for weight loss.
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Kitty Book!
Awwwww....
*melts*
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And because of this strip i just spent a half hour at Cute Overload.
:3
(http://www.cuteoverload.com/images/2009/02/16/image005.jpg)
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Don't go, Deuxmind. It will rot your brain!
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Or your teeth.
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Oh good god, not my teeth. Anything but my teeth! :X
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Oh good god, not my teeth. Anything but my teeth! :X
Remember to floss.
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Cute comic, cute link...
So - How long til Sven and Faye are back at it???
:laugh:
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I'm thinking that Sven will be much more hurt by this than Faye, who has supportive friends and "I should've expected this" to fall back on. Sven didn't want this, didn't expect this, has no one to blame but himself, and now has to stew in his own juices. Undoubtedly a new experience for him.
But hey, he's a country music songwriter...maybe he'll get some good songs out of the experience!
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But hey, he's a country music songwriter...maybe he'll get some good songs out of the experience!
Oh, and it will be a big hit for Gina Riversmith...
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That is both hilarious and brilliant! I can just imagine a drunken Sven, flopping all over his couch, unable to hold onto his guitar, making bad, slurry recordings of songs like: "Mah girl left me, and now mah cat done left me too". (Though I guess, this being country music, he'd have to make it his dog.)
But to be honest, I was hoping Sven would go into overcompensation mode, burying himself in a never-ending stream of meaningless sex with girls he doesn't care about. Only to realize, after about the fifty-third one, that it isn't helping and he's still not happy. Ah, karma... I love it when you come around!
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Oh, and it will be a big hit for Gina Riversmith...
Oh ow, that'd be some nasty irony there...
I love it!
:evil:
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Oh ow, that'd be some nasty irony there...
I love it!
:evil:
And later, Gina would be found naked and unconscious behind some dive bar with taser contacts in her back and strange little footprints in cake batter on her face. Pictures on the internet cannot be traced by her lawyers.
Oh, the story ideas, they just flow.
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I laughed at Marten's punchline that the Big Book of Kitties probably sells better than the Big Book of Third World Poverty. I'll bet it does... I'll bet it does.
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cause that ain't a creepy thing to say...? =P
I feel like Faye's doing the usual woman thing here and feeling sorry for herself openly to one and all then being vaguely indignant if people already know about her woes before she can explain it. It's a pretty normal way of dealing with things.
I however, still feel sorry for Sven. He's an asshole of sorts yes, but he doesnt really want to be. He's been trying not to be and now he's screwed it up for himself. I pity Faye as the victim of the circumstances, but I probably feel more sorry for Sven for bringing it upon himself.
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That is both hilarious and brilliant! I can just imagine a drunken Sven, flopping all over his couch, unable to hold onto his guitar, making bad, slurry recordings of songs like: "Mah girl left me, and now I mah cat done left me too".)
Speaking of which, and because it's been so long since anyone asked, where is Princess?
Actually, I don't expect Sven to get drunk about what's happened, since that would indicate he feels really bad about the way things have gone, not just...sorry. And this wasn't really bad, just inevitable. Right? Right.
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Speaking of which, and because it's been so long since anyone asked, where is Princess?
Well, pets in strips, if they aren't characters in their own right, tend to appear only when useful to a gag, so I wouldn't sweat it too much. She's probably busy peeing under the couch somewhere.
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Either that, or she's off ploting the overthrow of AnthroPC's and Humans with the rest of her kind.
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Either that, or she's off ploting the overthrow of AnthroPC's and Humans with the rest of her kind.
We are safe until they develop thumbs.
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Am I the only one that thought Hanners was wearing a t-shirt mimicking Faye's scar?
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Am I the only one that thought Hanners was wearing a t-shirt mimicking Faye's scar?
Not her scar -- emoticon :I Aside from the somewhat awkward boobsquishing pose, it's also centered. Although Faye's scar moves around like Watson's war wound, it wasn't centered.
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Kitty book? The REAL comfort for Hannelore is...
SEX 4 (6.7%)
SEX 1 (1.7%)
SEX 2 (3.3%)
SEX 0 (0%)
heavyoak 8 (13.3%)
SEX 6 (10%)
therapy 14 (23.3%)
Hannelore slips into Hannelore's room and turns her into a cyborg lesbian. 25 (41.7%)
So people, I tracked down EXACTLY when Hannelore turned into Hanners! Here, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=801) and then further proof here. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=804) Note, I am not being critical, I am just doing the nerdy thing that I [don't] need to do.
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Wow. I'm actually proud of this one. looks like the last two non-polls were just what I needed?
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PINTSIZE HAS CHEST HAIR!
okay, now I can go to bed.
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Yikes, that's a scary look in the next-to-last panel.
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Ewww.
Nuff said.
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Oh, sweet Jesus.
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Making Faye the second QC lady to reject a robot boyfriend.
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My mind just broke into a million billion little itty bitty pieces.
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Haha oh i missed sleazy pintsize.
But god the images that conjured up in my head it burns.
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Yikes, that's a scary look in the next-to-last panel.
It definitely rocks. Like she didn't know whether to laugh, scream, or just "pintsize"-forget about it. Great one.
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Faye's reaction is most definitely justified - the 70s porn 'stache and chest hair are creepier on him than on a real human - and that's saying something.
and Jeph - go with smaller bottles of sparkling wine rather than the normal magnums, less wastage. And besides, the clean up can still be fun if you do it together...
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Funniest strip in a long time.
We need more Pintsize...
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Oh, and it will be a big hit for Gina Riversmith...
Oh ow, that'd be some nasty irony there...
I love it!
:evil:
Actually, so do I.
Isn't this generally when Skawronska jumps in and says "WAHAHAHA FAYE'S IN PAIN THIS IS SO GIVING ME A BONER I NEED A DRINK BURN FAYE BURN", thus elegantly refuting the existing argument that Sven's being kind of a prick and Faye's handling it fairly well?
Yes, dammit. Sorry about that. Missed my cue.
You're an excellent understudy.
And now, some song lyrics...feel free to skip these over...
"I'm all out of rum
I'm so lost without it
I know Jeph is right
For letting Faye burn like...
I'm all out of rum
What am I without it
I can't be too late
To go get some more to-night"
-- With apologies to Air Supply and anyone who actually likes that song.
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Pintsize looks like he's been watching old "Magnum PI" episodes....yeeech!
Dustpan and broom in the corner, glue on the shelf, for the repair of all the minds broken by that last panel.
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Yeah I was thinking that. is that Tom Selleck or Pintsize. I just couldn't get my head around it...
Actually reminded me of a scene in Friends with Tom Selleck in it
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Hopefully, despite Jeph's post on the RSS, those aren't pubes again on Pintsize's face. At least they aren't Steve's pubes
As for the poll, Hanners has had an arc or three. Her mother's visit, the BF-bot, her mother's accounts, and the Worry Hat come to mind.
Also, I'd love to see Faye give Angus (Argument Guy) a chance. <Runs as decayed produce, old shoes, and god-knows-what-else is thrown at him by the QC Angus Hate Squad>
<Peeks around wall> I don't know if it'd go anywhere, but who knows? <Runs again>
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Well we've got a weekend to speculate what the author has in store for us - who knows someone may even get it right!
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And just to spite us, next week is going to be GUEST COMICS ONLY woooo!
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Well we've got a weekend to speculate what the author has in store for us - who knows someone may even get it right!
doubtful, but god knows we keep trying.
i like argument guy! maybe Faye will go to the bar, see him there and instead of drinking, "shack" up with him and thank him forever and always for saving her from a downward spiral into booze, self loathing, and a Dr. Corinne appearance. they fall in love.
oh, how my dreams deceive me.
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I refuse to be spited. I'm just gonna roll with it. If I don't like it, I can always, you know, go read a book or something :)
I'm freakin' annoying like that. ;)
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Faye's face in panel four looked like something in the near vicinity was about to be brutally dismembered or otherwise maimed. I'm guessing the effect Jeph was aiming for was a combination of facepalm and disgust, but I don't think it really worked out.
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You know, Marten really needs to delete that Remastered Edition of Johnny Wadd Porn that Pintsize downloaded from his Harddrive - Seriously.
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Faye's face in panel four looked like something in the near vicinity was about to be brutally dismembered or otherwise maimed. I'm guessing the effect Jeph was aiming for was a combination of facepalm and disgust, but I don't think it really worked out.
That look screamed face-palm to me, with a healthy dash of "ewwwgross".
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Is it just me, or does it look like Faye's starting to drop a few pounds?
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Is it just me, or does it look like Faye's starting to drop a few pounds?
Does Faye seem thinner in these last few strips?
Having sex with Sven is good for weight loss.
so nope not just you, maybe shes going back to how she used to look?
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And if you're unfamiliar with Cute Overload I would like to know where the rock you have been hiding under is located. The moon? Mars? ATLANTIS???
It's in Northern California, actually. It's quite the comfortable boulder :-)
(sorry, never heard of Cute Overload)
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According to her Twitter, Faye is still working out. Maybe she's dropped a few pounds as a result.
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Is it just me, or does it look like Faye's starting to drop a few pounds?
Does Faye seem thinner in these last few strips?
Having sex with Sven is good for weight loss.
so nope not just you, maybe shes going back to how she used to look?
And it's good for the cardiovascular system. It's aerobic!
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According to her Twitter, Faye is still working out. Maybe she's dropped a few pounds as a result.
As long as she doesn't waste away to the twig-size of the other girls.
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I didn't.
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I didn't.
S
...? :?
I don't understand.
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(You're not supposed to give a shit about what he says.)
(wait, that applies to everyone in this forum)
(hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm)
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she wasnt working out to lose weight she was working out to get in shape.
their is a difference
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How the hell do you know why she was "sowrking" out?
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If you're sowrking out, there's only one reason.
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And if you're unfamiliar with Cute Overload I would like to know where the rock you have been hiding under is located. The moon? Mars? ATLANTIS???
It's in Northern California, actually. It's quite the comfortable boulder :-)
(sorry, never heard of Cute Overload)
Hey! I live in Northern California and I check Cute Overload daily...ok, multiple times a day. Speak for yourself.
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I wonder, wouldn't it be better to Sticky the TWC Thread to the top of the Forum?
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Late to the party, I know.. but I had to say:
Two days after reading the "Big Book of Kitties" comic I ran into National Geographic's "Cat Shots" in the grocery store and laughed so hard. I got a pic with my cell phone but I see others in this thread have already linked to it. Still awesomesauce.
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Wow, the first helicopter, volcano, and wheelchair in QC, all in the same strip?
:-o
Though amusingly enough, not the first dominatrix.
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helicopters are such a common occurence in life, too. much more common then dominatrixes
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Depends on where you are, I suppose.
Although I admit to seeing ,er, immature people* on several occasions rushing out of a building to see a helicopter pass over. Dominatrixes, not so much.
Shouldn't this discussion be in this week's thread?
*asshats
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seeing as this thread should have been locked due to dating, we can go wherever we want with this.
what about if there are dominatrices on a helicopter?
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WCTs don't get locked, do they
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apparently not.
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seeing as this thread should have been locked due to dating, we can go wherever we want with this.
Okay.
what about if there are dominatrices on a helicopter?
I dunno. How could you tell? Whips at the rotor tips? Leather with metal studs exterior? Trailing a banner that reads "SUBMIT, WORMS!"?
Edit: the more I think about this, the more I wish I could draw it. We've had the submacopter: now is the Day of the Domnachopper.