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Title: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 03:37
I mentioned on another thread that my favourite type of music is the sort you could fight a war/battle/mano a alieno while listening to it.

Music's been an inextricable part of warfare for a long time. Scottish and British forces marching to battle with bagpipers at the head, Zulu war chants, Maori Hakkas and of course, with the invention of personal audio players, you've got many images of US Servicemen rolling in the desert with iPods blasting. There's even the famous story of the first troops heading into Baghdad playing "The roof is on fire" by the Bloodhound Gang.

So what music is good for fighting to? Not just fighting people, I mean even Abigail Whistler had her tunes.
"Shes making playlists. She likes to listen to mp3s when she hunts. Its like her own internal Soundtrack, you know? Dark core, trip-hop, whatever kids are listening to these days. Me, I'm more of a David Hasselhoff fan, you know?"

I say you can't go wrong with a little metal. Man O War (they also do some good stuff for funerals), Dragonforce (Who, ironically, I found because some Jazz fan Hipster students I knew were laughing at it), Blue Oyster Cult...

Then you've got the Goth stuff like Cruxshadows and Within Temptation, the more Folk-y stuff like Heather Alexander, some of the Grunge/Pop stuff like Breaking Benjamin and Rise Against.

Finally, you couldn't mention music of this type without mentioning some of the instrumental stuff. Ride of the Valkyries, Battle without Honor or Humanity, several of the songs from the Iron Man soundtrack...

So, what's your playlist to fight/image fighting to?
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: evilbobthebob on 01 Oct 2009, 03:51
I find a lot of hardcore is good fighting music. Simply because it's often very, very angry. Shai Hulud are a pretty good example, although they're more metal-influenced. Anything really chaotic can be fun, so grindcore or mathcore (so many -cores... :cry: ) are both pretty good for this. I'm currently listening to Between the Buried and Me's Colors album, and I think that'd be pretty awesome for fighting.

Admittedly I can't remember the last time I was in a proper fight :-P
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Thrillho on 01 Oct 2009, 04:05
I always thought 'Creature' by Mad Capsule Markets was a great theme for somebody getting beaten down by a gang, but as for just fighting, I dunno.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 04:10
There is a lot of metal and very angry music that I wouldn't fight to. Just because it's angry doesn't mean it grips you in that way that makes it feel like you really could take on the world and win. Also, I think it helps if the music has a certain rhythm or pulse. Too fast or two slow and it just doesn't synchronize with the violence at all well.

As for the Bloodhound gang, that was more because they were rolling through a burning city and the lines "We don't need no water let the Mo****Fu***r burn. Burn Mo****Fu***r, burn." (Which is what they got in some trouble for) just fitted the mood.

So far I've only really found one Coheed and Cambria tune I'd like to rumble to. Interestingly it's the soundtrack to the new "9" trailer.

Thanks for the names of a few more groups for me to peruse guys. I always welcome new taste sensations!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: evilbobthebob on 01 Oct 2009, 04:21
Ah yes, Welcome Home...their other stuff isn't really fighting music as such; No World for Tomorrow is pretty good though, it has some martial drumming in parts.

If you want some more specific band recommendations: on the hardcore front, The Hope Conspiracy and Black Flag are great for this kind of thing. Pretty much any hardcore or metal music with a breakdown is good as well. Unearth are a good band for that (especially the song Endless)
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: dancarter on 01 Oct 2009, 04:28
Combichrist's new album, Today We Are All Demons would be excellent music for fighting.  There's even a track on there called "Kickstart the Fight", which features excellent vocals by Gen of the Genitorturers.  Other easy slips into the fighting music would be Ministry, particulary the trio of The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste, Land of Rape and Honey & KEOAAHEO (Psalm 69: The Way to Succeed or the Way to Suck Eggs).   Pig is good if your like you're fights sleazy, as are KMFDM or Angelspit.

Some Terror EBM or power/rhythmic noise would be good too.  Suicide Commando or some of the faster ESA work; Memmaker's album How to Enlist in a Robot Uprising. Terrorfakt would be another good choice.  Early Pneumatic Detach albums like Meth, and the collab. he did with poet It-Clings called The All Too Logical Descent into Madness would be excellent.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 04:54
Woo Hoo! Sooo much new music! When I get home this evening I'm just going to indulge in an orgy of loud music and evil laughter!

For the other end of the fight, Man O War's "Crown and the ring" = Definitely music I want played at my funeral.

Viking funeral, naturally.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 01 Oct 2009, 04:56
How could you mention Terrorfakt and Combichrist, but not Feindflug?

FEEEEIIIIINDFLUUUUUUG

Feindflug - AK-47 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb3LHMP_TBY&feature=related)
Feindflug - Kahle Bedrohung (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2K4i21XgLw)
Feindflug - Menschenjagd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xyUohsseN0&feature=related)
Feindflug - Stukas Im Visier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MoUs8ZlbK0&feature=related)
Feindflug - Suchatzki March (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdcd9zfUXkU&feature=PlayList&p=CA111DBABBDE9401&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2)

I am sure this is the thread that will finally reveal that I am a secret fascist. Probably about the same time I start posting Blood Axis and Kreuzweg Ost...that said I might pull off, as I always post bands with youtube support, and a lot of great martial industrial music either hasn't been posted on youtube, or has been posted with achingly stupid nazi-themed videos. By which I mean not awesome nazi themed videos like this:

Boyd Rice - Total War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-YoY60BRsc)

or this

DAF - Der Mussolini (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olU40fxAXZs)

The last is not so much a war song but more something for the party afterwards. TANZ DER ADOLF HITLER HO HO HO HOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: michaelicious on 01 Oct 2009, 05:56
Fuck fighting. If I saw a bunch of people about to throw down I'd just hold up a ghetto blaster bumpin' out some Ape Up! or Chalk Talk or something and everyone would just start dancing and hugging and crackin' beers.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 01 Oct 2009, 06:01
I shoot you and take your ghetto blaster.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: evilbobthebob on 01 Oct 2009, 06:28
backstabbers incorporated

THIS

(Other people listen to Backstabbers Inc?  :-o )
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: sean on 01 Oct 2009, 06:31
I Wanna Fight - Orchid
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: karl gambolputty... on 01 Oct 2009, 06:46
Helmet
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Spluff on 01 Oct 2009, 06:51
What the World Needs Now Is Love
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 01 Oct 2009, 07:51
I do not get in physical altercations but in the rare instance that I play a first person shooter (usually the first Halo game) I like Méphistophélès by Gounod because it makes me feel like I'm playing some futuristic mafia-violence game.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 07:54
Does KharBevNor's post constitute the invoking of Godwin's law or can we carry on regardless?

I've often been a little worried about admitting I like Man O War as some of their art is a little Aryan-leaning, but then the Aryan's stole a lot of their imagery from the Norse and Swedes and that buncha guys. Let's face it, who wouldn't want to be an awesome Viking! Aside from the crappy sanitation I mean. A Viking is essentially a pirate.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 01 Oct 2009, 08:50
What the hell, I am just posting awesome music.

Let's get some proper heaviness in here! Ancient and modern!

Ancient Rites - Victory or Valhalla (Last Man Standing) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wm4lF55Fyk)
Amon Amarth - Death in Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-UbViuK4fY)
Bolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No Law (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzhoURAKoMA)
The Count Nosferatu Kommando - Jim Beamed Ahnenherbe TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtwrcXuP_eE)
Cryptic Wintermoon - Bonegrinder 1916 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8iSpyXa5Mo)
Forefather - Ours Is the Kingdom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNvPeO9nnk)
Impaled Nazarene - Total War/Winter War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QHm3SAaY8)

And of course, if you've not got that much balls, but still have some balls, there's always Sabaton.

Sabaton - Aettero Dominatus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNlRqyUV4ss)
Sabaton - Nuclear Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny_R8OVYfrw)
Sabaton - Primo Victoria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJAwCBbnuc&feature=fvw)

and then lets cool off with some nice neo-folk...OR NOT!

Gae Bolg - (Black) Sabbath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGZ5LKOMGQ8)

(seriously listen to that last one so awesome).



I personally don't really worry that much about the imagery used by the bands I listen to or their fans because I'm not a nazi and anyone who could get made into a nazi by listening to music is a total fucking retard.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: West on 01 Oct 2009, 09:33
The Red Chord, anything by The Red Chord.

They're so fucking furious.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 01 Oct 2009, 10:43
Heather Alexander

That is my best friend's name.  So weird.

I've heard the US troops in Somalia went in with Slayer playing.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 11:06
Heather Alexander has done some awesome folk music. "Brannigan's Special Ale" is pretty good. She's also done "Courage Knows No Bounds" which is awesome but her masterpiece has to be "March of Cambreath". Absolutely awesome faux-Scottish war music. John Ringo's featured that one song in a hell of a lot of his books, usually battle scenes.

"Sound the horn and call the cry, How many of them can we make die!"
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: karl gambolputty... on 01 Oct 2009, 11:40

(hey seni my friend is getting the trance tat this week i think)

Sweet!  Where is he getting it (as in which tattoo place)?  

Also: Melvins

Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Lummer on 01 Oct 2009, 11:54
The Red Chord, anything by The Red Chord.

They're so fucking furious.

WAITING! FOR THE! FINAL! BATTLE!

Oh god yes.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 01 Oct 2009, 11:59
There is a lot of metal and very angry music that I wouldn't fight to. Just because it's angry doesn't mean it grips you in that way that makes it feel like you really could take on the world and win.

Same here, it's kind of strange to be honest but most of the time very aggressive music kind of relax me a lot.
But yeah, I would love to kick some ass with some good Grindcore. Mainly Pig Destroyer and Napalm Death
Anothe rband would be the fast and brutal songs from Acid Bath
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Damnable Fiend on 01 Oct 2009, 12:25
possibly Ye Entrancemperium.  Just instrumentally.  I mean, unless if you know the lyrics already, you're not going to understand them anyway, buried as they are under mountains of blastbeats and synth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s61vUKggL-Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s61vUKggL-Q)
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Melodic on 01 Oct 2009, 13:10
Converge!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: The Duke on 01 Oct 2009, 13:17
Ah yes, Welcome Home...their other stuff isn't really fighting music as such; No World for Tomorrow is pretty good though, it has some martial drumming in parts.

I have a friend who is a writer, and whenever he needs to write a fight scene, he puts Welcome Home on repeat until he's done.

On topic:  How about Metallica?  Kill 'Em All would be particularly appropriate.

Or if you're trying to get the other side to surrender, Drop Your Guns by April Wine.

Or: Nightwish would work well, methinks.

Or: Make a playlist of songs like Civil War, Hero of War, and (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding just to be ironic.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Nodaisho on 01 Oct 2009, 14:01
Anothe rband would be the fast and brutal songs from Acid Bath
Cheap Vodka? What Color is Death? Yeah, I can see that.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 14:02
I've had a 'Battle' playlist for a while but this thread has really made me reconsider it. The problem is that it includes too much music that is just kinda ok. Stuff where the sentiment is right or the name but I really couldn't imagine facing down a snarling horde while listening to them.

Actually, in my head, I'm usually fighting Aliens for the fate of the Earth when I have this soundtrack on.

So I've been cutting and trimming, going back over old music and - leaving out the music that's been suggested here and I haven't had time to incorporate yet - I think I've come up with at least a preliminary battle soundtrack.

1. What have you done now - Within Temptation (Featuring Keith Caputo)
2. Paper Wings - Rise Against
3. Dancing for Rain - Rise Against
4. Gulmira - Ramin Djawadi (Iron Man Soundtrack)
5. Weapons of Mass Distortion - The Crystal Method
6. Battle without Honor or Humanity - Tomoyasu Hotei
7. Turn the Page - The Streets
8. Welcome Home - Coheed and Cambria
9. Through the Fire and the Flames - Dragonforce
10. Velocity Shift - Overseer
11. Lament - Phantom Lacuna

I'd call that a good start. But it needs MORE!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: evilbobthebob on 01 Oct 2009, 14:04
Paper Wings? Hmm...I can sort of understand that, although I'd be more inclined to go for Give It All, or Chamber the Cartridge...Or Bricks...(I love Rise Against  :-P )
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: snalin on 01 Oct 2009, 14:21
Maori Hakkas

Just to remind you, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpTsPNwwms&feature=related) is what you are up against,.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Oct 2009, 14:30
Shellac, duh.

HEY MAN HEY

I WANNA HAVE A FIGHT WITH YOU
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 01 Oct 2009, 14:44
Ok, well, those Iggy Pop Raw Power tracks are definitely going into my collection! Search and Destroy - particularly with that video - is awesome.

A lot of the really heavy Norse growling metal is a little outside my comfort zone. Awesome, but not my choice for fight music.

Since I only have medium balls I did enjoy Sabaton.

Gotta love that Hakka, especially since all you can do is stand there and take it, face it down. There is no other option and not much in the way of rebuttal. Those Maoris are masters of psychological warfare. Apparently the translation is something about a fat bearded man going up a hill and coming back with the sun. Oh and something about dying.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: 20 jazz funk greats on 01 Oct 2009, 15:07
Shellac, duh.

HEY MAN HEY

I WANNA HAVE A FIGHT WITH YOU

yes <3
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Oct 2009, 01:58
I have it on good authority (i.e. I noticed this at events) that most actual fighters of the MMA persuasion enjoy their entry music either being Hard techno stuff (the 666bpm fucking them up something good, apparantly) or some serious black metal tunes.

Me, I'd go with Cradle Of Filth, I guess. Gilded Cunt or Thirteen Autumns And A Widow.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 02 Oct 2009, 02:03
Anothe rband would be the fast and brutal songs from Acid Bath
Cheap Vodka? What Color is Death? Yeah, I can see that.

Lets start a riot
Lets start a war
Everybody that you know is a whore
Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, I don't care
If there's gonna be blood, we'll be there

______

We are meat,and that's it... So let's fuck it fuck it FUCK IT!


Oh, what a great band
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: StaedlerMars on 02 Oct 2009, 08:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPg-CjUGkcM
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Damnable Fiend on 02 Oct 2009, 09:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPg-CjUGkcM

This video is not available in your area due to copyright restrictions.  YAY
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 02 Oct 2009, 10:07
Converge!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 02 Oct 2009, 11:29
Minor Threat
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: dancarter on 02 Oct 2009, 14:55
How could you mention Terrorfakt and Combichrist, but not Feindflug?

Oh, it's not a purposeful omission.  I generally forget about them as I've never really gotten into them.  I'm not sure why... just can't crack them open.

To further toss up some tunes in the same general vicinity, only a very messy, bloody death can come from listening to Navicon Torture Technologies.  I think it's music made just to make you incredibly edgy and tweaked out.  Prometheus Burning is good to, if you want to fight to some hyper-agressive breakcore.  I'll also toss in Front Line Assembly's two more guitar twinged albums, Millenium and Hard Wired for the specific reason that Devin Townsend does some great, massive work on both.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Durin on 02 Oct 2009, 15:08
Was I the only one who thought about music to play in some sort of underground fight club?
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Chad K. on 02 Oct 2009, 15:29
Helmet is seconded.

Also, Drowningman- "Rock n' Roll Killing Machine" or "How They Light Cigarettes in Prison"
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: a pack of wolves on 02 Oct 2009, 20:42
Nah, Drowningman are way too emo. You can't bust heads when someone might be about to sing "why must this radio play songs that make me cry."

Urko - Ready To Bleed or Death Orgasm would work, and I reckon The Swarm - Fucking Invincible At 1 am could be suitable for some curb stomping action. Voorhees - Kicked Downstairs would probably be best though. "Now it's all that he said she said. It's bullshit. I wanna hear stories about people getting kicked downstairs headfirst again. Don't want to talk it out. Come and fight. Fight me!"
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 03 Oct 2009, 06:45
Interesting topic for me.

I served in Somalia and I had a walkman with a mix tape labeled "songs for killing" that I always listened to just before we thought shit might get hairy.   A lot of my buddies made fun of me, however, I would get all jacked up pre-mission.   What was on it?  It started with The Eliminator by Agnostic Front, then was Fallout by Nausea. Disposable Heroes by Metallica, Peace Sells by Megadeth.  Then was Malfunction, World Peace, and Hard Times by Cro-Mags, Then the Sick of it All 7" finished off the first side.   Side two started with My War by Black Flag,  Sob Story by Minor Threat, Fire Walker by Slapshot, Stigmata and So What by Ministry, then strangely enough I had a bunch of Operation Ivy songs on there before it finished with Alice Cooper's Welcome to my Nightmare and Eighteen.   We would haul ass up and down the MSR, me hanging out the top of the hummer behind my 60 with that shit blasting in my ears. 

Can you tell I listened to that tape a lot?  I've been back from Somalia almost 16 years.  In fact, today is the 16th anniversary of a bunch of shit which had me thinking about that particular tape anyway recently.

So anyway... When I went to Bosnia my mission was very different and I was working around a lot of live landmines and UXO, so I wanted a mellow groove every morning.  I didn't have one particular tape, but I listened to a lot of Mission U.K. Fields of the Nephilim, Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division... anything that wasn't going to get me all hyper and shaky around things that might go boom.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: pinkpiche on 03 Oct 2009, 06:55
backstabbers incorporated

THIS

(Other people listen to Backstabbers Inc?  :-o )

Yes we dooooo
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 03 Oct 2009, 08:45
To further toss up some tunes in the same general vicinity, only a very messy, bloody death can come from listening to Navicon Torture Technologies.

Yay! I thought this kind of stuff would be way beyond the comfort zones of anyone on this forum. Further to this, Brighter Death Now, Grunt, Operation Cleansweep, MZ.412, Genocide Organ, Propergol, Deathpile, The Grey Wolves, Sutcliffe Jugend (WHEN PORNOGRAPHY IS NO LONGER ENOUGH!!!) and Con-Dom. Death Industrial or no Industrial at all, wimps and posers...die screaming under the concentrated fire of massive black panzer tanks.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: smack that isaiah on 03 Oct 2009, 09:28
Generally I feel hardcore would certainly fit for this (My fave hardcore is Sick of it All, so I'd suggest their album Death to Tyrants, since each song is very short, and it'd be a quick battle if it was set to just one of their songs), or some amazing black/death metal along the lines of Morbid Angel or Gojira

And, finally, this would be a song to which I would listen during an epic battle (esp the chorus):
Sons of Odin by Manowar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=431ghP7AWf0)
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: BeoPuppy on 03 Oct 2009, 11:52
To further toss up some tunes in the same general vicinity, only a very messy, bloody death can come from listening to Navicon Torture Technologies.

Yay! I thought this kind of stuff would be way beyond the comfort zones of anyone on this forum. Further to this, Brighter Death Now, Grunt, Operation Cleansweep, MZ.412, Genocide Organ, Propergol, Deathpile, The Grey Wolves, Sutcliffe Jugend (WHEN PORNOGRAPHY IS NO LONGER ENOUGH!!!) and Con-Dom. Death Industrial or no Industrial at all, wimps and posers...die screaming under the concentrated fire of massive black panzer tanks.

You worry me sometimes.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 Oct 2009, 18:43
Don't worry. He is in the UK, so he is pretty much harmless. I don't think the military would take him, and even if they would, he would have to cut his hair, a metalhead's hair is his power, same as Samson.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 04 Oct 2009, 03:38
I served in Somalia and I had a walkman with a mix tape labeled "songs for killing" that I always listened to just before we thought shit might get hairy.   A lot of my buddies made fun of me, however, I would get all jacked up pre-mission.   What was on it?  It started with The Eliminator by Agnostic Front, then was Fallout by Nausea. Disposable Heroes by Metallica, Peace Sells by Megadeth.  Then was Malfunction, World Peace, and Hard Times by Cro-Mags, Then the Sick of it All 7" finished off the first side.   Side two started with My War by Black Flag,  Sob Story by Minor Threat, Fire Walker by Slapshot, Stigmata and So What by Ministry, then strangely enough I had a bunch of Operation Ivy songs on there before it finished with Alice Cooper's Welcome to my Nightmare and Eighteen.   We would haul ass up and down the MSR, me hanging out the top of the hummer behind my 60 with that shit blasting in my ears.  

Wow! Pretty impressive stuff! I'm going to have to pretty much remake that tape and have a listen. I think I have a version of 18 already and Metallica and Megadeth are always worth a listen. The downside of so much loud music in a danger zone is that you might not hear something dangerous coming your way. I know I can't rock out as much as I'd like to when playing BF2 because you need to hear the audio cues to what's going on.

BTW, the best thing about Metalheads? No matter how scary they are, you know they can't be racist neo-nazi types. In the war of Skinheads Vs. Metalheads the Metalheads are on our side and there's no way the Skinheads are winning!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: evilbobthebob on 04 Oct 2009, 03:51
Actually I know a guy who is a direct exception to that rule. He's a drummer in a metal band, and he is very, very fascist. Supports the BNP, idolises Hitler.  :|
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: pinkpiche on 04 Oct 2009, 05:49
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Kasper72/Woody_Guthrie.jpg)
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: a pack of wolves on 04 Oct 2009, 07:05
BTW, the best thing about Metalheads? No matter how scary they are, you know they can't be racist neo-nazi types. In the war of Skinheads Vs. Metalheads the Metalheads are on our side and there's no way the Skinheads are winning!

Er, you do know there is a whole thing called national socialist black metal right? And there are tons of militantly anti-Nazi skins. Don't assume someone is a bad person just because they have a shaved head!
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 04 Oct 2009, 11:08
Also, unfortunately, someone is not necessarily cool because they are a metalhead.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: The Duke on 04 Oct 2009, 17:08
Oh so true.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: epoch on 04 Oct 2009, 17:45
I like to listen to Bright Eyes, Wooden Shjips, and Califone when I fight. That's legit shit right there.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Jed on 05 Oct 2009, 00:16
Turmion Kätilöt - Minä Määrään (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b00rz4BBS3A)
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: pinkpiche on 05 Oct 2009, 08:40
I think they ruined it with the synths.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 05 Oct 2009, 09:03
But look at all those umlauts it's gotta be good
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Moist Cowboy on 05 Oct 2009, 20:30
Ceremony.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 06 Oct 2009, 02:21
In fact I'd never heard of national socialist black metal and I've never come across a skinhead who didn't support the theory that all skinheads are neo-nazis. I was just trying to make a funny comment on the whole hair vs. no hair thing in metal.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Reed on 06 Oct 2009, 07:06
I was just trying to make a funny comment on the whole hair vs. no hair thing in metal.

(http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp309/direbacterium/Random/6a0109d0e95d44000f011016671aa0860d-.jpg)

 :?
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 06 Oct 2009, 11:03
Ok, that guy takes himself way too seriously.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 06 Oct 2009, 11:08
No, he's just gay.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: smack that isaiah on 06 Oct 2009, 11:55
lol.  el oh fucking el. 
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Oct 2009, 15:52
I wish there was a total (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1LYIkbyNCQ) ban on NSBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWQQaCpte4) being totally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnkM5HOU6-E) fucking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ar624HUZOs) awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKXtJ1mviT8&feature=related). Unfortunately there isn't. Fucking nazis!

Although actually about 90% of NSBM is really shit. Even by the standards of bedroom black metal.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: elizaknowswhatshesfor on 07 Oct 2009, 04:49
Actually I know a guy who is a direct exception to that rule. He's a drummer in a metal band, and he is very, very fascist. Supports the BNP, idolises Hitler.  :|

I know more "Nazi" Metal fans than punks. By miles.

KharBevNor: I totally agree on how bedroom metal most of that stuff is, but due to the swapping of band members there are quite a few decent noise projects that have ended up with some members who have less than wholesome views.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Oct 2009, 08:02
I wish there was a total (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1LYIkbyNCQ) ban on NSBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWQQaCpte4) being totally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnkM5HOU6-E) fucking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ar624HUZOs) awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKXtJ1mviT8&feature=related). Unfortunately there isn't. Fucking nazis!

What the heck? Why is Burzum and Drudkh in the same sentence as NSBM?
Burzum isn't NSBM at all, not by a friggin mile. It's a well known fact that Varg is a nazi idiot, so what? There isn't a single song with lyrics about NS ideology...

And about Drudkh, a lot of lyrics are about nature, and others are about some old slavic poetry that is nationalist but it isn't the same as NSBM...
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Theriandros on 07 Oct 2009, 08:36
The prospect of a Rammstein soundtrack to a fight is pretty interesting. Hell, one of the band members even called it "music to invade Poland to".
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: KharBevNor on 07 Oct 2009, 08:49
Yeah, sorry, that 'Art for White Intellectual Elite' shirt and the members of Drudkh being in Hate Forest and Astrofaes (with members of Nokturnal Mortum) and playing a fucking NSBM festival does not make Drudkh at all NSBM.

And if you think Burzum is politically neutral, I'd like you to go check out who owns Unholy Records and Cympophane Records, the main distribution channels for Burzum stuff outside of some vinyl. I'll give you a hint.

(http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGC/StaticFiles/Images/Show/39xx/395x/3953_Inside_American_Nazi-3_04700300.JPG)

Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Oct 2009, 12:07
And if you think Burzum is politically neutral, I'd like you to go check out who owns Unholy Records and Cympophane Records, the main distribution channels for Burzum stuff outside of some vinyl. I'll give you a hint.

Oh God, not this again.
The lyrics and songs are not NSBM... I can't understand why people don't keep a friggin wall between the music and the musician. The musician is a nazi, the owner of the records too, but the lyrics... Thos elyrics don't have anything that can be translated to some NSBM ideology at all unless that when Varg wrote "mother nature" in some songs he meant Hitler or the superior aryan race which I really doubt.

I don't want to sound like an asshole at all but I've read all the songlyrics of Burzum and I don't find a single one having something to do with NSBM's ideology AT ALL. If you have one, then please send me the song and lyrics as well.

I still disagree with Drudkh being NSBM, meh... Checking out The Swan Road and Blood in our Wells, the lyrics don't have anything to do with nazism and similar stuff. Patriotic? Of course, but they consist on some old 19-century poetry and it's nothing excessive or with a negative context. Even they current label [Seasons Of Mist] can't stress enough the fact that the band being labeled NSBM is utterly wrong. link (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/news.php?newsid=7991) And as far as I know the band put a public statement through SoM
Some members being in Hate Forest [band that is indeed a NSBM one] doesn't mean that Drudkh is NSBM too. Being an extreme nationalist isn't the same as being NS.
If Drudkh is NSBM then peste Noire is the ultimate nazist band. But hey, they aren't.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: The Duke on 07 Oct 2009, 13:32
Rock This Town if you ever find yourself in a bar fight.  In the sixties.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: sean on 07 Oct 2009, 13:34
so it cool to spin music by nazi's just as long as they are not explicitly talking about nazism?
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Oct 2009, 14:13
so it cool to spin music by nazi's just as long as they are not explicitly talking about nazism?

That's a personal view btw. You are free to agree or disagree with me, I just don't find the problem because the important thing is the music, the painting, the poem, the book and so on... I don't give a rat ass if the dude is a pedofile [Alice?] a serial killer [Gacy?] or in this case, a nazi.
But it's a fact that Varg being a nazi doesn't instantly make the lyrics and music NSBM.
I feel a connection between the music and myself. I don't feel any connection with the musician at all. I don't really see what's so hard to understand about the subject.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: elizaknowswhatshesfor on 07 Oct 2009, 14:41
Isn't this supposed to be fight music not music to fight about...Esp. as this has already been discussed. It went off into a conversation about downloading, this is never good.

I agree with Converge, "conduit" specifically. Also Wagner & Holst's "Mars" (Doye) The Warriors soundtrack, The theme from Commando, Throats cover of "Crazy Horses", Fu Manchu playing "Godzilla" The Wookie track that's on the Clerks soundtrack and I can't remember who it's by, Devo "Mongoloid" Death From Above "Blood on our Hands", "Little Green Bag" (I've just realised I'm listing the songs I used to listen to on the way to work when I still worked in bars, I guess that required fight music...but fight music with a little party.)
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Oct 2009, 14:47
Aye, I'm actually sorry for the offtopicness. There was a point when I just could have used the PM option but I didn't take it.

Soooooooooo...

In my opinion: everything that has to do with sludge is perfect for a fight.
Today I just listened to Eyehategod's masterpiece that is "Take as needed for pain" while I was reading American Psycho, and everything seemed perfect, I got that feeling of wanting to hit someone  :-P
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: elizaknowswhatshesfor on 07 Oct 2009, 14:52
Nice choice! Have you ever heard Iron Monkey? They do good slow music that is aces for getting you 'pumped up' the right way.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Oct 2009, 15:10
I just heard one song from a fan-myspace. Good stuff! Thanks for the recommendation. I just searched for them in the website I use to buy cds from and they got a nice compilation that has both studio albums and 4 rare bonus tracks. I guess I don't have another option than just buying it  :lol:
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Oct 2009, 16:03
Bartok's ballet The Miraculous Mandarin involves several people getting murdered on stage (the last "miraculous" one won't die however many times they kill him, until he gets to kiss the girl).  Some good (if one-sided) fighting there.  Gruesome stuff that had a lot more trouble getting staged than Stravinsky's Rite of Spring (it was only staged twice in Bartok's lifetime, and both were taken off after only a few performances).
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: a pack of wolves on 07 Oct 2009, 16:50
Devo "Mongoloid"

Really? Got to say, I can't imagine kicking ass to Devo.

I just heard one song from a fan-myspace. Good stuff! Thanks for the recommendation. I just searched for them in the website I use to buy cds from and they got a nice compilation that has both studio albums and 4 rare bonus tracks. I guess I don't have another option than just buying it  :lol:

Do it. Downright fucking terrifying band in places. I remember them getting interviewed years back, and the interviewer telling them that allegedly Phil Anselmo was listening to their debut when he overdosed. They responded by saying that if it had been their new one, he definitely would have died.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Oct 2009, 23:16
Hahahaha that's awesome. I remember that in my Eyehategod copy of Take As Needed for Pain [I'm so happy to have a 3000 limited version with 6 bonus tracks, o yeaaahhh one hour of pure madness] in the back it says:

"All The followers Of My Path must, in order to reach spiritual discovery, make one hallucinogenic trip per week with LSD, and everyday with Marijuana.
They must search for inner ecstasy at every opportunity...

They must abandon their families and society... AS SOON AS POSSIBLE."
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: BeoPuppy on 07 Oct 2009, 23:52
Yeah, I'd fight those fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: elizaknowswhatshesfor on 10 Oct 2009, 11:01
Wolves, I thought I'd replied to this, obviously not...my fighting style is pretty flail-ley so Devo works well for me.

Also drugs make people talk shit....this is a fact.

Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Clobbersaurus on 10 Oct 2009, 11:07
terrorfrequenz "hellectro"
combichrist "get your body beat"
angelspit "kill kitty" remixed by KMFDM
KMFDM.... 90% of everything they've done, but "you're no good" and the same song remixed by Zombie Girl is puncharific

this is for fighting when you have a health bar floating above your head.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MarkTBSc on 10 Oct 2009, 15:18
I can't believe I almost forgot about "Dimension" by Wolfmother!

It made a fantastic battlefield lead-in to the House episode Top Secret.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Alex C on 10 Oct 2009, 16:08
Oh, it's not a purposeful omission.  I generally forget about them as I've never really gotten into them.  I'm not sure why... just can't crack them open.


It is somewhat strange since I always thought they're rather accessible, relatively speaking. I mean, it's got a beat and you can stomp to it. Then again, I have no idea what it is that makes some groups better than others when it comes to this kind of music. Kahle Bedrohung is in my playlist right now but I couldn't really tell you why I like that track so much. I probably like Feindflug because if there's anything that's likely to turn me off from such outfits it's likely to be an overabundance of lyrics.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 11 Oct 2009, 04:03
I would fight my socks off with some good Mayhem

I mean... the riff in the beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfCHwsp9bSc) is so agressive I just want to beat someone.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: doobiemonster17 on 11 Oct 2009, 14:26
Iron & Wine- Our Endless Numbered Days.

thats the sort of shit to get your blood boiling.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Moist Cowboy on 11 Oct 2009, 16:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPPDWElqoZQ or bust.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: dancarter on 11 Oct 2009, 17:26
It is somewhat strange since I always thought they're rather accessible, relatively speaking. I mean, it's got a beat and you can stomp to it. Then again, I have no idea what it is that makes some groups better than others when it comes to this kind of music. Kahle Bedrohung is in my playlist right now but I couldn't really tell you why I like that track so much. I probably like Feindflug because if there's anything that's likely to turn me off from such outfits it's likely to be an overabundance of lyrics.

I think the thing about the genre is that there's no real middle ground.  It's either really good or laughingly awful....lyrics-wise especially.  But to move the point further, I have no idea why people don't like some of the bands that I think are impossible not to enjoy.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: MrBlu on 11 Oct 2009, 20:41
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN-LVmiHF3A) is what I fight to.
Title: Re: Music to fight to.
Post by: Lummer on 12 Oct 2009, 11:13
Fucking Nasum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-GegoVRzQg&fmt=18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-GegoVRzQg&fmt=18)