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Title: WCDT July 19-23, 2010 (1711-1715, Guest Strips)
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Jul 2010, 18:46
So here's your Weekly Comic Discussion Thread.

Not much to discuss this week, since it's all Guest Comics.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: J on 18 Jul 2010, 19:57
do you mean "Marigold freaks out because Dale's character ganked her in WOW."?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: The Duke on 18 Jul 2010, 21:01
Presumably, yes.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 18 Jul 2010, 21:23
Today's comic certainly had a 'Pink Elephants On Parade' feeling to it...


I like it!
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: zagraf on 18 Jul 2010, 21:26
Heh. I thought it was going to end with her bolting upright in bed.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mojo on 18 Jul 2010, 21:34
Holy moley, that thing should come with a warning.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Watched Pot on 18 Jul 2010, 22:25
I guess it's mostly the imagery (it can't really be anything else, cause there's nothing else in common) but this strip reminds me strongly of Roald Dahl's short story "Georgy Porgy".

(PS-If you didn't know Roald Dahl wrote 'adult' stories, please go to your nearest bookstore and buy a collection and read as many as you can.)

(PPS-By 'adult' I mean 'written for adults', not 'adult' as in 'adult film'......though the Uncle Oswald stories would make Ron Jeremy blush.....)
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 18 Jul 2010, 22:33
"Chinese xian hua herbs"...  There are no tone-marks shown of course (Marten probably has "Firefly Chinese" pronunciation anyway), so xianhua could have several meanings:
I suppose the first and last of the above could imply some rare, psychoactive plant. Dosing Hannelore with it could not be a good idea, it might turn her into Dark Hanners, and usher in the apocalypse.

* 水仙花 (shuǐ xiān huā), is the Chinese name for the common Narcissus or Daffodil, sometimes also known as the Chinese Sacred Lily. The leaves, and especially the bulbs, are actually poisonous, so ingesting them might not be a good idea, m'kay?
 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: bicostp on 18 Jul 2010, 22:40
I thought it was Chinese for "clashes with Hannelore's brain pill cocktail". :|
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 18 Jul 2010, 22:57
Todays comic brought to you by John Carpenter.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: westrim on 18 Jul 2010, 23:11
"Chinese xian hua herbs"...  There are no tone-marks shown of course (Marten probably has "Firefly Chinese" pronunciation anyway), so xianhua could have several meanings:
  • 鲜花 = xiān​huā​ = "fresh flower", or possibly "rare flower".
  • 闲话 = xián​huà​ = "digression" or "gossip" (lit. "idle talk")
  • 献花 = xiàn​huā​ = "offer or lay flowers" (on a grave, memorial etc.)
  • 仙花 = xiān​huā = "immortal flower" (That's immortal as a noun, as in a Taoist immortal. I've never actually seen this combination.*
I suppose the first and last of the above could imply some rare, psychoactive plant. Dosing Hannelore with it could not be a good idea, it might turn her into Dark Hanners, and usher in the apocalypse.

* 水仙花 (shuǐ xiān huā), is the Chinese name for the common Narcissus or Daffodil, sometimes also known as the Chinese Sacred Lily. The leaves, and especially the bulbs, are actually poisonous, so ingesting them might not be a good idea, m'kay?
 


I think it means "you played Soul Calibur too, right?"
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 18 Jul 2010, 23:34
Today's guest comic brought to you by the warped mind behind a zombie apocalypse webcomic. Hanners got off easy compared to his regular characters. I recognized the webcomic, if not the name of the artist, by the distinctiveness of the talk bubbles in panel 3.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: ysth on 19 Jul 2010, 00:20
Could it be this company: http://xahuarui.itrademarket.com/profile/xian-hua-rui-bio-engineering-co-ltd.htm (http://xahuarui.itrademarket.com/profile/xian-hua-rui-bio-engineering-co-ltd.htm)?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 19 Jul 2010, 01:11
What a terrible thing to do to someone who comes in looking like she just came off a really bad trip (panel #4).
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 19 Jul 2010, 04:47
Interesting effect.  Might not want to give that to someone who's driving.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 19 Jul 2010, 06:01
Well, look on the bright side; after a trip like that, OCD doesn't seem nearly as bad! 

Also, in reference to a concurrent twitter conversation, I am now convinced that all webcomics are drawn by midgets.  Possibly, midgets in funny hats. 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Jul 2010, 06:11
do you mean "Marigold freaks out because Dale's character ganked her in WOW."?
DOH!
I coulda SWORE I typed "Dale".  :-o :?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 19 Jul 2010, 06:15
Also, in reference to a concurrent twitter conversation, I am now convinced that all webcomics are drawn by midgets.  Possibly, midgets in funny hats. 


Or giants, don't forget the giants.


No regular sized people allowed, though.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Jul 2010, 07:04
There's a regular size for people? 

POUS (People Of Unusual Size) who may find it hard to fit in (due to their unusual size) tend to take up solitary hobbies.  And with some artistic ability (although it doesn't take much, if you look at some webcomics), this is a natural direction in which to gravitate. 

That, and radio. 

Beats working at a sideshow...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 19 Jul 2010, 08:15
I thought working in radio was being in a sideshow.

The more I look at this comic, the less I like it. It was vaguely amusing at first, but at every look it seems more and more…mean, perhaps even heartless, not to mention it exploits the barrel-bottom of juvenile humor, spiking someone unsuspecting's drink and then watching what happens. I mean, really, fart jokes are one thing (they never go stale, unlike farts themselves), but this? Which brings up another question:

What the hell is wrong with me? (At the moment, dammit, not in general—we haven't got all week).

Edit: Caught another typo. Now to find someone to blame…
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 19 Jul 2010, 08:30
POUS (People Of Unusual Size) who may find it hard to fit in (due to their unusual size) tend to take up solitary hobbies.  And with some artistic ability (althpough it doesn't take much, if you look at some webcomics), this is a natural direction in which to gravitate.  

Just for clarification, I wasn't making a social commentary, I was referring to Jeph and Rene's twitter convo this morning regarding how small the fair-gendered artists he's met have tended to be. 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Shremedy on 19 Jul 2010, 10:41
So, on the Hanners Psychosis Scaletm, how many days without sleep did that one cup of exotic chai latte equal?  I'm guessing somewhere between five and seven. :laugh:

I've been following Dead Winter for a long while now, even though I usually dislike zombie-apocalypse stories, so I was happy to see his art here.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mr_Rose on 19 Jul 2010, 12:37
I thought working in radio was being in a sideshow.

The more I look at this comic, the less I like it. It was vaguely amusing at first, but at every lppk it seems more and more…mean, perhaps even heartless, not to mention it exploits the barrel-bottom of juvenile humor, spiking someone unsuspecting's drink and then watching what happens. I mean, really, fart jokes are one thing (they never go stale, unlike farts themselves), but this? Which brings up another question:

What the hell is wrong with me? (At the moment, dammit, not in general—we haven't got all week).
Not a very great deal mate; I too consider the joke in "meh" taste (the no-man's land between good and bad taste) and, more damning, the characterisation is all a little ...off. Especially Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 19 Jul 2010, 15:41
Not a very great deal mate; I too consider the joke in "meh" taste (the no-man's land between good and bad taste) and, more damning, the characterisation is all a little ...off. Especially Marten.
Yeah... Well, it's a guest comic. They miss more than they hit (IMHO, YMMV etc.).

POUS (People Of Unusual Size) who may find it hard to fit in (due to their unusual size) tend to take up solitary hobbies.
Being predictably petite myself, I find it easy to fit in... shower cubicles, airline seats, vehicles with low head-room etc. More advanced technology is usually miniaturized...  :-D  But yes, I was picked last for netball in gym class...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jul 2010, 16:43
Well, I suppose that's better than having ROUS's around.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Alus on 19 Jul 2010, 17:56
by far the most disturbing QC comic to date.

still awesome though
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Jul 2010, 18:04
I dunno about that... there are a few more that I'd rank above it (and yes, they're all guest strips).
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Jul 2010, 19:21
I thought working in radio was being in a sideshow.

The more I look at this comic, the less I like it. It was vaguely amusing at first, but at every lppk it seems more and more…mean, perhaps even heartless, not to mention it exploits the barrel-bottom of juvenile humor, spiking someone unsuspecting's drink and then watching what happens. I mean, really, fart jokes are one thing (they never go stale, unlike farts themselves), but this? Which brings up another question:

What the hell is wrong with me? (At the moment, dammit, not in general—we haven't got all week).
Not a very great deal mate; I too consider the joke in "meh" taste (the no-man's land between good and bad taste) and, more damning, the characterisation is all a little ...off. Especially Marten.

They do seem a bit... altered.  Probably been sampling the Psychonut Chai Lattes themselves.  Both Marten and Dora look a wee bit crazed, and perhaps a slightly cruel streak has been unleashed.  At least, that was my first impression, looking at the eyes.  Can't see Faye's all that well.  Don't know that there's be much difference...

As for what else may be wrong with you, DK,DC (Don't Know, Don't Care)  :-P

At least, Don't Know.  I only care to the extent that, were it "fixed", you might not be the raoullefere we enjoy so much. 

So drink up...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jul 2010, 21:30
It may not look like he said what he meant, but he meant what he said.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 20 Jul 2010, 00:39
I meant this: it presents an attack on Hannelore, toying with her, playing with her precarious sense of reality. I ought to be enjoying that, but I'm not, and that puzzles me*. The other things that are wrong with me would get us off subject. Damned well can't have that!

The first thought that went through my head upon viewing tonight's strip was: "We don't serve their kind in here."
The second was how well Wil works in the 70's gentleman's mag, or maybe The New Yorker, style art.
The third was the original version of the note would probably have been more successful; so long as Momo doesn't know it's from Freakobot McDevodroid Pintsize.



*Thinking about it, for that strip to end right, Hannelore would've had to murder every mother's son and daughter in the shop. That would have been funny, or at least the kind of funny the strip seems to be going for.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 20 Jul 2010, 04:30
The amusing part of that would be Hanners in the holding cell pending the bail hearing - imagine the lady with the communal toilet in those places.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 20 Jul 2010, 12:36
*Thinking about it, for that strip to end right, Hannelore would've had to murder every mother's son and daughter in the shop. That would have been funny, or at least the kind of funny the strip seems to be going for.
The artist and author of that strip recently portrayed a particularly worthless, loathesome, and hated character in his own webcomic killed by way of something of a circular firing squad, filled with lead from every angle.

Like I said, it could have been worse.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 20 Jul 2010, 16:07
The amusing part of that would be Hanners in the holding cell pending the bail hearing
It is a bit early in the week for the silly stuff, but I wonder how long Hanners would be in a cell, what with her mother's elite mercenaries storming the building, and her father threatening to drop rocks from orbit on one major city for every hour she's in custody... No, I don't think Fu Manchu is among my honourable ancestors, why do you ask?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: tomselleck69 on 20 Jul 2010, 18:59
dave's strip awesome

guest week is for torturing the cast only

becky & frank's strip also awesome

HAHA WOOOOOO
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Jul 2010, 19:52
... No, I don't think Fu Manchu is among my honourable ancestors, why do you ask?

Actualy, I was thinking more of Ming the Merciless. 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: IanClark on 20 Jul 2010, 21:57
*Thinking about it, for that strip to end right, Hannelore would've had to murder every mother's son and daughter in the shop. That would have been funny, or at least the kind of funny the strip seems to be going for.
The artist and author of that strip recently portrayed a particularly worthless, loathesome, and hated character in his own webcomic killed by way of something of a circular firing squad, filled with lead from every angle.

Like I said, it could have been worse.


Dammit... I'm now half way through Dead Winter and I have to be up in the morning...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Near Lurker on 20 Jul 2010, 23:12
...you'd think Hanners would know better.

I mean, they're not even chordates...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 20 Jul 2010, 23:32
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww358/AndiJF/fly-brain.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 20 Jul 2010, 23:39
The amusing part of that would be Hanners in the holding cell pending the bail hearing - imagine the lady with the communal toilet in those places.
Now we're cooking.

... No, I don't think Fu Manchu is among my honourable ancestors, why do you ask?

Actualy, I was thinking more of Ming the Merciless. 
I never knew Ming was Chinese. I thought he was a Mongo-oid. Or Swedish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_the_Merciless#Flash_Gordon_film_.281980.29).

Is that Sven displaying his unit? Or someone from one of Engstrom's strips?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Watched Pot on 20 Jul 2010, 23:54
Is that Sven displaying his unit? Or someone from one of Engstrom's strips?
I think it's Sven. Near as I can tell, it goes (left-right) Angus, Faye, Dora, Marten, Hanners, Marigold, Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 21 Jul 2010, 00:00
Anders Loves Maria wrapped???!??!?!! Well, no wonder the updates have been so slow in coming. I guess I'll have to go back and reread it.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 21 Jul 2010, 00:28
 :|
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mr_Rose on 21 Jul 2010, 02:59
Is that Sven displaying his unit? Or someone from one of Engstrom's strips?
I think it's Sven. Near as I can tell, it goes (left-right) Angus, Faye, Dora, Marten, Hanners, Marigold, Sven.
Yeah, that's my working assumption too, though I was a bit thrown by Faye actually making out with Angus.
And in front of other people too...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 21 Jul 2010, 04:35
... No, I don't think Fu Manchu is among my honourable ancestors, why do you ask?

Actualy, I was thinking more of Ming the Merciless. 

If I remember a recent genetic study Genghis Khan is much more likely.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 21 Jul 2010, 06:56
Anders Loves Maria wrapped???!??!?!! Well, no wonder the updates have been so slow in coming. [...]
  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Jul 2010, 07:49
Anders Loves Maria wrapped???!??!?!! Well, no wonder the updates have been so slow in coming. I guess I'll have to go back and reread it.

That's the problem with RSS feeds, you miss those little tidbits of info. 

I really love what Rene did with this.  The characterizations are spot on, especially in the last panel.  Hanner's "can't look/must look" reaction, Marten's shock, Dora's disgust, Faye's fuming, Angus' facepalm, and Marigold's ... anticipation? 

Not to mention Sven's drunken "foot (?) in mouth" expression.  Needs to think before he unzips, that's our Sven. 

Reminds me of a piece of artwork (a poster?) I saw a few times when I was a teen, caled "Organ solo". 

Definitely NSFW, and tied closely with delusions of grandeur.  Of course, a quick online search only gives me actual organ solos...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Binary on 21 Jul 2010, 10:28
... No, I don't think Fu Manchu is among my honourable ancestors, why do you ask?

Actualy, I was thinking more of Ming the Merciless. 

If I remember a recent genetic study Genghis Khan is much more likely.

They did a genetic study showing that Akima descended from Genghis Khan?!   :-o



Also:

HELP ME!   HELP MEEEE!
(http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp299/Andrei_STF2/TheFly1958lamouchenoireavi13066103-.png)
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 21 Jul 2010, 10:36
... No, I don't think Fu Manchu is among my honourable ancestors, why do you ask?

Actualy, I was thinking more of Ming the Merciless. 

If I remember a recent genetic study Genghis Khan is much more likely.

They did a genetic study showing that Akima descended from Genghis Khan?!   :-o


Not just her - a sizable portion of the world's population. (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html)
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 21 Jul 2010, 10:37
I think Border means the Gingster is the Chinese Charlemagne, so to speak. If you've Western European blood, you've got a rather good chance of being related to ol' Chuck. I am—a friend thinks that's funny, keeps calling me "The Hammer" after Charlemagne's grandfather, Charles Martel. Something about me putting my fist through a wall*.

I assume for those of Chinese descent, the same is true of the great Khan? Actually, as large and diverse as China is, this seems unlikely.


*Sheetrock. The Hulk I'm not, quite.

Edit: Dammit, Ninja'd.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Near Lurker on 21 Jul 2010, 10:48
The way I've heard it, there's nothing special about Charlemagne or Gengis Khan; we're all descendants of the Julio-Claudian dynasty as well, and nearly everyone in the Middle East is a descendant of Menes, and so on.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Jul 2010, 13:28
Oh, there was something special about Genghis.  His holdings stretched across most of Asia and into "Europe" (OK, Turkey, so it's debatable if that's Europe).  He had some interesting... habits? 

Harems were the norm anyway, and as the most important/wealthiest male, his was the largest.  He got first pick of the women from any new region he conquered.  One of his (many) sons had 40 sons of his own, and one of his grandsons (Kublai) had 22 legitimate sons.  The illegitimate count isn't known.  In the empire’s region, 8% of the current male population have that identical chromosome, and so are direct male descendants

That's .5% of the world's population, and it's only the males. 

Now, it's pretty unlikely for me, but I can only go back about 4 generations, and some of them were gypsies.  So, who knows?  And Akima?  Pretty likely that there's some Khan there somewhere...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 21 Jul 2010, 13:56
KHAAAAAAANNNNNN1!!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54&feature=related)
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Jul 2010, 14:18
I think Border means the Gingster is the Chinese Charlemagne, so to speak. If you've Western European blood, you've got a rather good chance of being related to ol' Chuck. I am—a friend thinks that's funny, keeps calling me "The Hammer" after Charlemagne's grandfather, Charles Martel. Something about me putting my fist through a wall*.

<snip>

*Sheetrock. The Hulk I'm not, quite.**

<snip>

**Mine was drywall. Houkster smash.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 21 Jul 2010, 14:22
actually we dont really know for sure if it is Genghis or not.  The study said 3/5 people from china share a common ancestor from that time period.  Its is speculated that it is Genghis because of the harems and amount of children he fathered.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Jul 2010, 15:14
Coulda been the milkman...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 21 Jul 2010, 16:09
The way I've heard it, there's nothing special about Charlemagne or Gengis Khan; we're all descendants of the Julio-Claudian dynasty as well, and nearly everyone in the Middle East is a descendant of Menes, and so on.
Charles is just an example, Lurker. Anyone who's ever done a lengthy family tree knows about pedigree collapse (a.k.a. implex) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedigree_collapse). Charlemagne and Genghis Khan are simply well-known examples of the MRCA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor) (or at least the best-known such) for certain large groups of people. Probably a quite a lot of us are also descended from some dude named "Wan of Ker", too, but he never made the history headlines.

Besides, the way I heard it, "Menes" is probably more of a title than an actual person; in other words, a case similar to that LeeC is talking about for Temüjin, that is, a name has been placed on some genetic MRCA factor.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Near Lurker on 21 Jul 2010, 16:12
It's a title in the same way "Caesar" was a title; it's allegedly the name of the first emperor of a united Egypt, so it became a title.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 21 Jul 2010, 17:50
Oh, there was something special about Genghis.  His holdings stretched across most of Asia and into "Europe" (OK, Turkey, so it's debatable if that's Europe).

And he's the only ruler to have been portrayed by John Wayne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)). :-D
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 21 Jul 2010, 22:08
KHAAAAAAANNNNNN1!!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54&feature=related)

I love that moment.

We've seen Kirk angry, seen him really annoyed and seen him slightly pissed off

But I think that's the first time we've seen true, unadulterated, unfettered "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck!!" rage out of him.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 21 Jul 2010, 22:51
It's a title in the same way "Caesar" was a title; it's allegedly the name of the first emperor of a united Egypt, so it became a title.
Um Wasnt the name of the guy Pharaoh Narmar or Menes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Dynastic_Period_of_Egypt) back in 3000BC? Some believe it was the same person but just referred differently depending on the time/place).

Caesar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_%28title%29) came from the Roman dictator (not emperor) Gauis Julius Caesar.  The first emperor, Octavian (Later Augustus Caesar) took Caesar as his name because he was adopted in Julius's will. When Augustus named Tiberius as his succesor and adopted him, he got the name too.  By the time Claudius assumed the throne it became a name for being emperor.  The word Emperor came from the latin word Imperator meaning "Person who Orders/command (root word imperare meaning order/command, suffix -tor means a person)" and was title usually given to military commanders.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: ysth on 21 Jul 2010, 23:21
Want comic
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 21 Jul 2010, 23:37
I have only a vague idea what's going on in this comic (as usual with the guest strips from this artist), but I'd guess Sam Neill must've enjoyed being in that film—I suspect he digs working on freaky pics.

Oh, there was something special about Genghis.  His holdings stretched across most of Asia and into "Europe" (OK, Turkey, so it's debatable if that's Europe).

And he's the only ruler to have been portrayed by John Wayne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)). :-D

And, my god, it sucked. Even <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Moorehead ">Endora[/url] couldn't save it with her magic.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Jul 2010, 23:40
Want comic

Got comic. 

WTF comic. 

Still want comic. 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 21 Jul 2010, 23:41
Anyone got a clue what todays comic is about ? :?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 21 Jul 2010, 23:46
OK, it must be art, because I can't understand it (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrueArtIsIncomprehensible). But Faye in the fourth panel is fantastic.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: CEOIII on 21 Jul 2010, 23:48
When webcomic artists have "guest artist weeks", you either:

a) Discover a new webcomic
b) hit your knees and thank god for the artist of the original comic

Anyone besides me doing a LOT of "b"?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: JackFaerie on 21 Jul 2010, 23:51
That's real pretty and all, but I sometimes wonder if people who draw in "hyper realistic" style are aware that it's possible to have characters who are under 35 years old. Even hyper-realistically.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: pwhodges on 21 Jul 2010, 23:51
c)  Go out and get to know the thing it's based on, at which point you can finally assess it.

His Woyzek/Wozzeck comic was fantastic once you worked out how to read it.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Spluff on 22 Jul 2010, 00:54
Basically every second strip (at least) should be drawn by John Keogh
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Dickbutt on 22 Jul 2010, 04:25
man i never understand this guys comics and this makes me feel stupid

I mean i get the basic gist, I think, but I'm not confident enough to write a summary on wikipedia you know what I mean
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Somebody on 22 Jul 2010, 05:03
OK, it must be art, because I can't understand it (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrueArtIsIncomprehensible). But Faye in the fourth panel is fantastic.
I *think*:
a) Marten's a mafia don
b) Faye's his wife
c) Angus is a private dick investigating the suicide of Faye's dad (which we see in FB, with her collapsing to her knees)
d) Faye has an affair with Angus, and Marten walks in on them

Still some bits I'm missing (what the pictorial speech balloons are meant to say, f'rinstance), but that SEEMS to be the gist.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mosey on 22 Jul 2010, 05:04
c)  Go out and get to know the thing it's based on, at which point you can finally assess it.

His Woyzek/Wozzeck comic was fantastic once you worked out how to read it.
Which would be simple if we had some clue as to what it's based on. As far as I can tell it's talking about tentacle porn. You can really only get it if you've already seen whatever it's based off, making it sort of an in-joke. As far as I knew the charm of QC was that anyone could get it even if they weren't into hipster indie rock, but this sort of goes back on that and says you can only understand and enjoy it if you watch a lot of postmodern German art films, or something.
TL;DR what's it based off then?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 22 Jul 2010, 05:08
I have only a vague idea what's going on in this comic (as usual with the guest strips from this artist), but I'd guess Sam Neill must've enjoyed being in that film—I suspect he digs working on freaky pics.

Oh, there was something special about Genghis.  His holdings stretched across most of Asia and into "Europe" (OK, Turkey, so it's debatable if that's Europe).

And he's the only ruler to have been portrayed by John Wayne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)). :-D

And, my god, it sucked. Even <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Moorehead ">Endora[/url] couldn't save it with her magic.

I'd ask you to explain Mr. Neil's presence in Jurassic Park III then.

But man - the Conquerer was a really bad movie - Mongol was much better.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: PHeller on 22 Jul 2010, 06:34
I think we're all to accustomed to Jeph's "punchline" comic style.

Today's is just "look at it and admire the pretty pictures".

Unless of course you've seen Possession.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Varian7 on 22 Jul 2010, 07:18
Thank you for recognizing and naming the film behind the guest comic!  I now have at least half an idea what's going on.  Note: It is the 1981 film Possession, not the more recent ones.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Jul 2010, 07:24
Yeah, Jeph linked to the Wikipedia article for Posession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_(1981_film)) in his comment, but I missed it. 

I've never seen it, and after reading about it, I'm not sure I want to...

I really did like the scenes of insanity, though.  Well done.  But my favorite shot of Faye here is the inflagrante one in the next to last panel! 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 22 Jul 2010, 08:19
That's real pretty and all, but I sometimes wonder if people who draw in "hyper realistic" style are aware that it's possible to have characters who are under 35 years old. Even hyper-realistically.
Marten and Faye do look a little worse for wear, don't they?

I have only a vague idea what's going on in this comic (as usual with the guest strips from this artist), but I'd guess Sam Neill must've enjoyed being in that film—I suspect he digs working on freaky pics.

Oh, there was something special about Genghis.  His holdings stretched across most of Asia and into "Europe" (OK, Turkey, so it's debatable if that's Europe).

And he's the only ruler to have been portrayed by John Wayne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)). :-D

And, my god, it sucked. Even <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Moorehead ">Endora[/url] couldn't save it with her magic.

I'd ask you to explain Mr. Neil's presence in Jurassic Park III then.

But man - the Conquerer was a really bad movie - Mongol was much better.
It's called paying the bills so you can work on artsy, freaky pics. Really, though, Neill was stuck—as I understand it, appearing in a second film, if Universal wanted him, was in his contract for the first one (that was what kept Neill from playing Elrond in TLoTR, btw; rejoice or be relieved as you wish). Also, for all that we think of it as mainstream now, Jurassic Park was on the somewhat freaky side when it was released—new tech and all that. Neill was one of the first people to appear with dinos that weren't either obviously animated, dudes in suits, or Slurpasaurs (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Slurpasaur). It seems like a slam-dunk, but the whole thing could've bombed pretty easily. I recall wondering were they going to be able to pull it off, or was it going to be, say, Land of the Lost on the big screen—good-looking dinosaurs, but clearly fake.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Ghanima Atreides on 22 Jul 2010, 08:31
OK, it must be art, because I can't understand it (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrueArtIsIncomprehensible). But Faye in the fourth panel is fantastic.
I *think*:
a) Marten's a mafia don
b) Faye's his wife
c) Angus is a private dick investigating the suicide of Faye's dad (which we see in FB, with her collapsing to her knees)
d) Faye has an affair with Angus, and Marten walks in on them

Still some bits I'm missing (what the pictorial speech balloons are meant to say, f'rinstance), but that SEEMS to be the gist.


And Angus is some kind of Lovecraftian monster, judging by that panel of them together on the bed.... :|
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: BlakeJustBlake on 22 Jul 2010, 08:45
So, who did today's guest comic?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 22 Jul 2010, 09:21
I thought it was Marigold who had the Badtz-Maru fetish, not Faye.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1504
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Jul 2010, 09:32
So, who did today's guest comic?

John Keogh (http://lucid-tv.com/).  See also: 1454 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1454) and 1365 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1365).
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jul 2010, 13:20
I thought it was Marigold who had the Badtz-Maru fetish, not Faye.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1504
Or Dora: strip 634 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=634).
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 22 Jul 2010, 15:49
This will sound weird, but I would find today's strip less confusing if their shirts/jackets didn't seem to exchange color.   :|  Panels 1-4 seem to have Marten in them, but his jacket is dark in panel 1 and light in the rest.  Then it seems to be Angus wearing a dark shirt (unbuttoned almost to his navel, lol) and holding the door for Marten in panel 5, then crouching over Marten's beaten body in panel 6, but in panels 10-12, his shirt is light.  As to the in flagrante image in the next to last panel, 1. I'm not convinced it's Faye (was thinking Tai, actually, but who knows) since the eyebrows look different, 2. based on the image from two panels earlier (panel 15), she is apparently in flagrante with some kind of zombie dog-man.

I have not seen the movie Possession, but I've seen The Brood and Don't Look Now.  Can anyone who's seen Possession tell me how it compares creepyness-wise to those or other films?

I do like panels 7-10 from a purely artistic point of view.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Jul 2010, 16:05
So, who did today's guest comic?

John Keough from Lucid TV (http://www.lucid-tv.com/)
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 22 Jul 2010, 16:46
John Keough from Lucid TV (http://www.lucid-tv.com/)
Lucid? A fine example of irony, yes?  :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Jul 2010, 18:08
That I would agree with.

Lucid TV is... well, a bit TOO over the top for me.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: tomselleck69 on 22 Jul 2010, 18:24
This will sound weird, but I would find today's strip less confusing if their shirts/jackets didn't seem to exchange color.   :|  Panels 1-4 seem to have Marten in them, but his jacket is dark in panel 1 and light in the rest.  Then it seems to be Angus wearing a dark shirt (unbuttoned almost to his navel, lol) and holding the door for Marten in panel 5, then crouching over Marten's beaten body in panel 6, but in panels 10-12, his shirt is light.  As to the in flagrante image in the next to last panel, 1. I'm not convinced it's Faye (was thinking Tai, actually, but who knows) since the eyebrows look different, 2. based on the image from two panels earlier (panel 15), she is apparently in flagrante with some kind of zombie dog-man.

I have not seen the movie Possession, but I've seen The Brood and Don't Look Now.  Can anyone who's seen Possession tell me how it compares creepyness-wise to those or other films?

I do like panels 7-10 from a purely artistic point of view.

-reason for inconsistent clothes is that the whole thing takes place over many days
-change in jacket color between 1 and 2 is a mistake though, i forgot to fill in his jacket in the second panel
-it is faye throughout, no tais here, i dont think the eyebrows look that different!

also yeah drawing people that do not look prematurely middle-aged in my style is tougher than one might think
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Jul 2010, 19:59
This will sound weird, but I would find today's strip less confusing if their shirts/jackets didn't seem to exchange color.   :|  Panels 1-4 seem to have Marten in them, but his jacket is dark in panel 1 and light in the rest.  Then it seems to be Angus wearing a dark shirt (unbuttoned almost to his navel, lol) and holding the door for Marten in panel 5, then crouching over Marten's beaten body in panel 6, but in panels 10-12, his shirt is light.  As to the in flagrante image in the next to last panel, 1. I'm not convinced it's Faye (was thinking Tai, actually, but who knows) since the eyebrows look different, 2. based on the image from two panels earlier (panel 15), she is apparently in flagrante with some kind of zombie dog-man.

I have not seen the movie Possession, but I've seen The Brood and Don't Look Now.  Can anyone who's seen Possession tell me how it compares creepyness-wise to those or other films?

I do like panels 7-10 from a purely artistic point of view.

-reason for inconsistent clothes is that the whole thing takes place over many days

-change in jacket color between 1 and 2 is a mistake though, i forgot to fill in his jacket in the second panel
-it is faye throughout, no tais here, i dont think the eyebrows look that different!

also yeah drawing people that do not look prematurely middle-aged in my style is tougher than one might think

Without the reference to the movie, the strip would've left me confused. I will say this, though: you do an awesome job with Jeph's characters.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 22 Jul 2010, 21:31
This will sound weird, but I would find today's strip less confusing if their shirts/jackets didn't seem to exchange color.   :|  Panels 1-4 seem to have Marten in them, but his jacket is dark in panel 1 and light in the rest.  Then it seems to be Angus wearing a dark shirt (unbuttoned almost to his navel, lol) and holding the door for Marten in panel 5, then crouching over Marten's beaten body in panel 6, but in panels 10-12, his shirt is light.  As to the in flagrante image in the next to last panel, 1. I'm not convinced it's Faye (was thinking Tai, actually, but who knows) since the eyebrows look different, 2. based on the image from two panels earlier (panel 15), she is apparently in flagrante with some kind of zombie dog-man.

I have not seen the movie Possession, but I've seen The Brood and Don't Look Now.  Can anyone who's seen Possession tell me how it compares creepyness-wise to those or other films?

I do like panels 7-10 from a purely artistic point of view.

-reason for inconsistent clothes is that the whole thing takes place over many days
-change in jacket color between 1 and 2 is a mistake though, i forgot to fill in his jacket in the second panel
-it is faye throughout, no tais here, i dont think the eyebrows look that different!

also yeah drawing people that do not look prematurely middle-aged in my style is tougher than one might think

Aha!  Thank you for the clarification.  ^_^  The "takes place over many days" makes sense.  Perhaps the eyebrow difference I'm seeing is more one of facial expression.  Also, looking at it again, the zombie dog-man thing seems to have tentacle arms (I initially thought she was restrained via more ordinary means), which makes that image more freaky, though that must have been your intention.

I think I'm gonna have to find a copy of that movie now . . .
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 22 Jul 2010, 22:04
*Sound of Crickets chirping*
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 23 Jul 2010, 15:26
The pit-fighting babies made me giggle, which probably means that I'm a horrible person. Perhaps I really am descended from Gengis Khan...
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 23 Jul 2010, 15:28
Well, that's that week over with.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Jul 2010, 19:15
Thank you for your participation in this week's Non-poll...

So what will happen THIS week on "As The Coffee Bean Turns"?

Hannelore freaks out over the coffee grinder    - 1 (1.9%)
Marigold freaks out because Dale's character ganked her in WOW.    - 4 (7.5%)
Pintsize blows something up - and no one notices.    - 4 (7.5%)
Steve bails out Cosette after the briefcase incident.    - 6 (11.3%)
Nothing, silly - it's guest comic week.    - 32 (60.4%)
Pancakes and porridge and asps - very dangerous!    - 6 (11.3%)

Total Voters: 53
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 23 Jul 2010, 19:16
"Rippy the Razor"? I wondered if that was a send-up, and then I found this (http://www.moronail.net/img/650_Rippy_The_Razor_Says_Its_Down_The_Block_Not_suicide?search=suicide&no=8). Classy.

The pit-fighting babies made me giggle, which probably means that I'm a horrible person. Perhaps I really am descended from Gengis Khan...
Or maybe you're descended from Qin Shi Huang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang). Baby gladiators seem more like his sort of thing (at least before people started revising him). Not that I can say much, as it was my favorite part, too—but my ancestor who enjoyed suchlike is both far less well-known and of much more recent vintage.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: littlefox on 23 Jul 2010, 20:03
Yeah, Rippy is a recurring "filler" character in SP, much like Yelling Bird is in QC. He also appears in spin-off strips. Like this one:

http://www.rhymes-with-witch.com/lwr08092006.shtml

Or maybe this is a better example?

http://www.rhymes-with-witch.com/lwr112005.shtml

I think Rippy's hilarious. I fully expect non-SP readers to not enjoy today's guest strip, though. It's pretty inside baseball.

... SP is fun times, though.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 24 Jul 2010, 10:42
Randy is probably my favourite guest artist - course that may have something to do with me enjoying his strip as much.

Did the body disposal involve the pit-fighting babies?
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 24 Jul 2010, 12:47
Perhaps indirectly. I mean, the arena owners have to do something with the losers. What works for them, can work for YB.
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Akima on 25 Jul 2010, 07:43
I knew the pit-fighting babies reminded me of something, but it took me a while to find it (http://www.concentratedawesome.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/monkey_knife_fight.jpg). Wonder Woman really seems to be getting into it... "Great Hera! Cut him good, Gleek!"
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 25 Jul 2010, 10:19
Akima, that's a pretty classy joint!  I especially enjoyed seeing some of the side activitites...  that poor wondertwin will never be the same! 

As for baby body disposal, what were they eating earlier?  They looked to be pretty good sized drumsticks...

And if you tip the maitre d' well enough, he directs you through the backroom and down a flight of stairs to the arena.  Now, that's service! 
Title: Re: WCDT July 19-23, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 25 Jul 2010, 10:49
that poor wondertwin will never be the same!  
What do you mean? They've always been that way. Zan and Zanna don't even have to touch for their powers…they just do. Repeatedly. Or are you talking about Jace, whom Batman is hitting on while Robin admires the Wonder-scenery?

Not that Batman would really do that. As Superdickery (http://superdickery.com/) relentlessly points out, Batman's not gay. He's just not.

BTW, I'll bet it would also be pointed out there that Superman set this fight up. It's how he rolls, being the colossal, fight-loving (http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=28%3Asuperdickery&id=169%3Athe-superman-wonder-woman-team&Itemid=54) dick (http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=28%3Asuperdickery&id=163%3Asuperman-fakes-his-death-once-more&Itemid=54) that he is.