Someone he's actually attracted to would be nice.
I said it in the weekly thread already, but I pretty much think Marten started dating Dora because she asked him to, and because it got him some sex. I don't think there's much physical attraction or anything deeper there. She just doesn't seem his type. If he's attracted to Faye, then presumably he likes curvy women.
Someone he's actually attracted to would be nice.
I said it in the weekly thread already, but I pretty much think Marten started dating Dora because she asked him to, and because it got him some sex. I don't think there's much physical attraction or anything deeper there. She just doesn't seem his type. If he's attracted to Faye, then presumably he likes curvy women.
Possibly true. Part of the reason why I'm so opposed to the Marten/Dora pairing though is because regardless of any changes in artstyle, she has never once seemed to me to represent a woman who is even remotely hot. She isn't ugly or anything like that, she just wouldn't get a second glance from me. Maybe I just can't see past that prejudice.Someone he's actually attracted to would be nice.
I said it in the weekly thread already, but I pretty much think Marten started dating Dora because she asked him to, and because it got him some sex. I don't think there's much physical attraction or anything deeper there. She just doesn't seem his type. If he's attracted to Faye, then presumably he likes curvy women.
If he's like many people, he's attracted to hot women. Being attracted to hot person A doesn't mean someone can't be attracted to hot person B even if they look nothing alike.
I really am surprised to find that I'm apparently wired so differently than most people. I have one template for 'attractive people', and I don't stray far from that in terms of what gets the job done. I mean, I can look at someone who doesn't fit and think "Ohh yeah, she's kinda hot", but at the same time... no way would I want to get with her.Someone he's actually attracted to would be nice.
I said it in the weekly thread already, but I pretty much think Marten started dating Dora because she asked him to, and because it got him some sex. I don't think there's much physical attraction or anything deeper there. She just doesn't seem his type. If he's attracted to Faye, then presumably he likes curvy women.
I'm a full-on chubby chaser myself (if my post in the discussion thread a few days ago didn't already give it away), and I usually go for women a lot bigger than Faye. Doesn't mean I don't find girls with Dora's body type attractive. I think most people have more than one body type they find attractive.
I really am surprised to find that I'm apparently wired so differently than most people. I have one template for 'attractive people', and I don't stray far from that in terms of what gets the job done. I mean, I can look at someone who doesn't fit and think "Ohh yeah, she's kinda hot", but at the same time... no way would I want to get with her.Someone he's actually attracted to would be nice.
I said it in the weekly thread already, but I pretty much think Marten started dating Dora because she asked him to, and because it got him some sex. I don't think there's much physical attraction or anything deeper there. She just doesn't seem his type. If he's attracted to Faye, then presumably he likes curvy women.
I'm a full-on chubby chaser myself (if my post in the discussion thread a few days ago didn't already give it away), and I usually go for women a lot bigger than Faye. Doesn't mean I don't find girls with Dora's body type attractive. I think most people have more than one body type they find attractive.
Marten seems to be attracted to strong women, or at least women who seem strong. That's something Faye and Dora have in common—both seem like assertive, confident types until you dig just a little below the surface, at which point all hell breaks loose because something's very very wrong inside. I wonder if the girl Marten followed East is/was similar.
And why do I say that?: Because Veronica is also a strong woman, only, unlike Dora and Faye, a real one. It's fairly natural for Marten to look for that in the women he dates. I wonder if Dora and Marten really are quits, if how it went down in any way qualifies Dora for the Bosch treatment?
Hannelore.
Seriously. Would love to see that neurotic match up.
To be honest after a while of looking at Dora and possibly being a fool by over-analyzing her character...she doesn't flow too well with Marten. Really though i find Marten has too many parallels to my own life so perhaps that colors my view. But to be a bit more descriptive; it's not her lack of confidence in herself that irks me. It's that she does-...well lets suffice to say it i guess she's a bit too real. She's not entirely broken, which is a major point in her favor, yet the parts that are her weaknesses, they're too blatant. Lack of self-confidence is a minor issue for most, and even when it's a major issue, when one has as much success and as caring friends as Dora does, usually one gathers the mental will to start fighting back. And if one cannot, usually they look for tools to assist them.
As far as has been seen, Dora has done none of this. She lashes out instantly at Marten for the slightest perceived detection, and then refuses to comprehend a situation like the latest comic shows. On top of which, this has happened multiple times previous, and only the latest time did someone step in and hand her her ass. But even that didn't seem to hold. Whether it is the fault of her surroundings, or the fault of herself, she believes that for her, an apology should be enough to fix a situation if she's apologizing, but she expects others to bend over backwards if they do something that upsets her. This, combined with the confidence issues, causes her to create a self-fulfilling prophecy in making herself alone. She doesn't think she's worth it, is shocked when someone else does, and so badly desires for nothing to separate her from that person, she lashes out the second she detects something that could. And once that happens, she goes into the mindset "i knew it wouldn't work, it never does and never will" which then "tricks" herself into feeling justified once that person leaves because of her own actions. it's a common mentality trait i've seen in multiple people, mostly women unfortunately, and i guess it irks me slightly to see it here as well.
Haha, you could say i like my fantasy stories to stay fantasy, you know? But that said, while Faye, and even Hannelore have their problems mentally, those two have had enough self-will and internal strength (and in Faye's case, a bit of external) to start chipping away at their problems. Dora, whom has enough external that logically should trigger an internal shift, doesn't. And thus far, nobody has seen fit to push, until Faye stepped in, but even then, just like i predicted to a friend of mine, the pattern started again: she was easily forgiven, her fears spiked up again, she settled back into her routine, pushing away what came before, and nobody kept the issue in circulation until it was no longer relevant. Today's issue further demonstrates the cycle by showing that upon mention of the issue, due to it happening during a current conflict, it did nothing to cow her and in fact did the opposite.
With all that analysis done, it's my strong belief due to the information shown, that Dora should not be with anyone until such a time as she has at least begun to gain control over this problem. As seen, Marten is patient, but...oddly like myself, he is most willing to help those who desire to help themselves. the words "I'm sick of your apologies" do not translate as Dora did to "i dont want you around anymore" but rather "i dont want you to have to apologize anymore".
I really am surprised to find that I'm apparently wired so differently than most people. I have one template for 'attractive people', and I don't stray far from that in terms of what gets the job done.
Nice try, but no.
I really am surprised to find that I'm apparently wired so differently than most people. I have one template for 'attractive people', and I don't stray far from that in terms of what gets the job done.
Only like the white women, eh?
I really am surprised to find that I'm apparently wired so differently than most people. I have one template for 'attractive people', and I don't stray far from that in terms of what gets the job done. I mean, I can look at someone who doesn't fit and think "Ohh yeah, she's kinda hot", but at the same time... no way would I want to get with her.
I really am surprised to find that I'm apparently wired so differently than most people. I have one template for 'attractive people', and I don't stray far from that in terms of what gets the job done. I mean, I can look at someone who doesn't fit and think "Ohh yeah, she's kinda hot", but at the same time... no way would I want to get with her.
It's not that weird. Studies show that men (in general) have a fairly narrow template with regard to what they find "attractive" in a lady compared to what a lady (in general) may find attractive in a gentleman. I think most people, ladies and gentlemen, will work within their template assuming they have plenty of options to choose from. Soluzar likely just had the freedom of choice to not work outside of his preferred template and therefore never widened it. Sven may have explained it best here.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=798
It's not that weird. Studies show that men (in general) have a fairly narrow template with regard to what they find "attractive" in a lady compared to what a lady (in general) may find attractive in a gentleman. I think most people, ladies and gentlemen, will work within their template assuming they have plenty of options to choose from. Soluzar likely just had the freedom of choice to not work outside of his preferred template and therefore never widened it. Sven may have explained it best here.That comic sort of explains it except that my freedom of choice was never so wide as that Sven used to enjoy. I'm not some kind of egotist to think that. I have been pretty lucky with the opportunities that came my way though. More by chance than because I'm remarkable enough to deserve them.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=798
Name one woman in the history of the world who doesn't have a bit of insanity in them. Name one PERSON in the world that doesn't have a bit of insanity in them.
Wait. Speaking of Raven, where'd she go again? I cant remember.
On another note, although I'm a strong proponent of "let's just wait and see what happens," I will note that Hannelore has had crazy crush-like and stalker tendencies towards Marten for quite some time now. I've always had the sneaking suspicion that the pretend date and all the other attempts at progress she's been making are some sort of long-range plan to finally "get" Marten...
Name one woman in the history of the world who doesn't have a bit of insanity in them. Name one PERSON in the world that doesn't have a bit of insanity in them.
... Whatever happened to her, anyway?
Damn the Allosaurus ... I wonder if he had a headache after a caffiene high after eating a barista? Ponderous, ponderous :psyduck:... Whatever happened to her, anyway?
Eaten by an Allosaurus. :mrgreen:
Very tragic, but what are you gonna do? :psyduck:
Sven.
I'd like to point out that Dora's trying to break up with Marten.
Thisis not yet a done deal.
Sven.
I'd like to point out that Dora's trying to break up with Marten.
This is not yet a done deal.
And I'm still waiting for the next words to come out of Marten's mouth. They will define him for the rest of the strip's run.
I'd like to point out that Dora's trying to break up with Marten.
This is not yet a done deal.
And I'm still waiting for the next words to come out of Marten's mouth. They will define him for the rest of the strip's run.
I'd like to point out that Dora's trying to break up with Marten.
This is not yet a done deal.
And I'm still waiting for the next words to come out of Marten's mouth. They will define him for the rest of the strip's run.
I'd like to point out that Dora's trying to break up with Marten.
This is not yet a done deal.
And I'm still waiting for the next words to come out of Marten's mouth. They will define him for the rest of the strip's run.
You do know Jeph's gonna cliffhanger the lot of us, right?
Here's another thought.
A pile of Allosaurus poop comes together and forms a reborn Sara. Then shit gets even more real.
I just realized. The eldritch speech of Hanners and Dora... it was foreshadowing.
After the breakup, Marten will eventually come to see his true love....Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞
I just realized. The eldritch speech of Hanners and Dora... it was foreshadowing.
After the breakup, Marten will eventually come to see his true love....Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞
To be honest, I've been expecting Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞ for some time (I think I even pointed out the similarities in whichever thread that happened in).
Wait...
Hold...
HOLD...
Marten/Sweet-Tits.
:psyduck:
Wait...
Hold...
HOLD...
Marten/Sweet-Tits.
:psyduck:
OTP!!!!!
Oh god, me too. We all know he could really pull it off. ... and really, I'm surprised there aren't more zalgo edits of QC comics anyway. I've found a total of one. (http://htmlcoderexe.deviantart.com/art/Questionable-Content-Zalgo-174974354) Given the major edits are of Garfield and CAD, I'm guessing most people only do zalgo edits of comics they don't like. (I have no opinion of either since I don't read them) No reason for that though, QC is full of comics that would make good Zalgo edits. Including the aforemented eldritch speech one.I just realized. The eldritch speech of Hanners and Dora... it was foreshadowing.
After the breakup, Marten will eventually come to see his true love....Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞
To be honest, I've been expecting Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞ for some time (I think I even pointed out the similarities in whichever thread that happened in).
He comes!
(I would be highly entertained by Jeph doing a non-canon 'Zalgo' strip. I've always gotten a hoot out of those.)
Marten/Me.
Has Marten had any real personal growth? Dora broke up with him. She took the active role, and he just followed along. He may ultimately agree that it was time to end this, but he never actually took an active role in it.
Marten strikes me as too passive. He seems dissatisfied with his life but he hasn't done anything to better it. He works a job usually held by students despite having a college degree. He was unhappy in the relationship but he got dumped as opposed to confronting Dora and dumping her or at least confronting their issues.
Look at Steve, he has been dumped twice and he still picks himself up and gets back to things.
I would like him to not date anyone for a while and maybe go on some strange adventure like Steve did after he broke up with Meena. I think Marten needs to go through a period of personal growth like Faye and Hannelore have.
First Post. I don't think Marten should date anyone who works at the Coffee of Doom.Does the coffee itself count? That would be interesting. Not as good as Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞ but stilll.
(On a side note. We have lesbians. A whole dorm at the very least of them. But have we had any gay guys? I know with the fanboys they're less than popular, but still...)
Marten strikes me as too passive... He was unhappy in the relationship but he got dumped as opposed to confronting Dora and dumping her or at least confronting their issues. Look at Steve, he has been dumped twice and he still picks himself up and gets back to things.
I'm interested in what all of you who find Dora so abhorrent or even just don't think she's quite right, would attribute to Marten's ideal partner.
...how did the Bianchi parents raise two children who are so fucked up?
we have to remember that Sven for the longest time was just a stereotypical "Male". Decent looking, gets the ladies, screws them, dumps them, moves on. Sven himself doesnt seem to have many "problems" at all. And, after dealing with Faye, he's come to realize he's a dick, and wants to change. And we're seeing him do so. It's Dora with all the head problems. Not to say Sven may not have any, in fact he might, and it might even be the reason why he was such a douche for so long. But his arent like Dora's, which stops him from being able to pursue a relationship.
In fact he even noted these things after one specific encounter (usually how these matters resolve themselves), and is making moves to fix them. It just so happens that the "target" of his change, has moved on. Whether this will cause him to revert, or if he'll just keep pushing for the sake of finding another, or even holding out for her, is unknown. but safe to say Sven is in no way "fucked up". And we know where Dora's head problems came from. Now she just needs to focus on that and resolve them.
Marten strikes me as too passive... He was unhappy in the relationship but he got dumped as opposed to confronting Dora and dumping her or at least confronting their issues. Look at Steve, he has been dumped twice and he still picks himself up and gets back to things.
I'm willing to grant that Marten could have done more to push Dora to get the help she needed to deal with her issues. But I don't think you can argue that he was unhappy in the relationship. There were unhappy moments in the relationship, to be sure, but on the whole Dora and Marten made each other happy. The face in the last panel of 1799 is not the face of a man who's been dumped from a relationship he wanted to get out of.
I also don't see what parallel you're trying to draw with Steve. If your argument is that he rebounds quickly from being dumped - well, Marten just got dumped. We don't know yet how long he'll take to pick himself up and get back to normal.
...how did the Bianchi parents raise two children who are so fucked up?
Oh, that's the one thing I'd LOVE to know. Doubt Jeph would want to take us there, though.
He just needs someone who's actually strong, self-assured and outgoing... since this seems to be who he's attracted to, but I don't think has really found in the main cast. Basically Hetero-Tai.Great googly moogly, no! Anyway, I'm not sure if Hetero-Tai could exist. I think there's something intrinsic about her lesbianism to her.
Meanwhile Dora hooks up with Tai's entire dorm.
Pizza girl.
Leave it.
Personally, I think that if you really want Marten to see growth, the last thing he should do is date anyone else seriously for at least 500 strips. Casual hookups would be great though. Yes, I know they don't jibe well with his character, but it's part of growing as a person. Although Marten came into the series with a long dry spell, he seems to be a serial monogamist, and he really should be more proactive with dating and more picky - not just fall into a relationship with the first woman who comes his way. I think the most major realization for his character would be if he discovers that with a bit more of a self-assured attitude, he'd have women throwing themselves at him. I don't see him turning himself into some David DeAngelo acolyte, but some half-measures in those directions would be a big step up for him.
I was just thinking that. Faye needed a creative outlet, likely Marten does too. The discipline of practicing regularly would keep him from falling into a rut.
I agree, I don't see Marten dating anyone again for a fairly long time. He's going to need to let this heal.
Marten using [Marigold] as a substitute for Faye and Marigold subbing him for Angus, sort of a dual rebound situation. Then Marten would be free to meet a Smif hottie and Marigold could hook up with her Alliance stalker.I totally disagree that Mari should hook up with Dale, but hey, Marten is surrounded EVERY DAY with Smif hotties, one already asked him out. I ask you, How much better of a place to meet dateable women IS there??
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Pizza girl.
Opportunity for Moar Deathmøle, perhaps?
Oh god, me too. We all know he could really pull it off. ... and really, I'm surprised there aren't more zalgo edits of QC comics anyway. I've found a total of one. (http://htmlcoderexe.deviantart.com/art/Questionable-Content-Zalgo-174974354) Given the major edits are of Garfield and CAD, I'm guessing most people only do zalgo edits of comics they don't like. (I have no opinion of either since I don't read them) No reason for that though, QC is full of comics that would make good Zalgo edits. Including the aforemented eldritch speech one.I just realized. The eldritch speech of Hanners and Dora... it was foreshadowing.
After the breakup, Marten will eventually come to see his true love....Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞
To be honest, I've been expecting Z̴̞͔̦̲͈ͣ̓ͅA̸̛̼̲̲̙̦ͭ̑̋̀L̶̯͉͒̈ͨ́̚͠G̯̞͊͊̒͝O̶̺̩̹ͧ͗ͥ̍͂̾͞ for some time (I think I even pointed out the similarities in whichever thread that happened in).
He comes!
(I would be highly entertained by Jeph doing a non-canon 'Zalgo' strip. I've always gotten a hoot out of those.)