THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)
Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Border Reiver on 23 Jan 2011, 11:46
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It's Sunday afternoon in the Eastern Standard Time zone, and thought I might try my hand at starting the poll again.
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The first poll option should be: "It's a secret to everybody."
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I'm cleared, and so are a number of others.
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I went through a severe initiation rite in order to be allowed to know about the Secret Bakery, just like everyone else.
Every....everyone else did have to go through an initiation rite.....right?
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Oh, yeah. The initiation rite. Right. Boy, that sure was some initiation rite, wasn't it ...? (walks away, whistling ...)
EDITED to spell "rite" right.
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Darn. One day I decided not to log on early Sunday AM, and I miss out on making the WCDT.
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I went through a severe initiation rite in order to be allowed to know about the Secret Bakery, just like everyone else.
Every....everyone else did have to go through an initiation rite.....right?
No, but the staff did threaten to throw week old bread at me if I revealed any secrets, such as revealing what they do to people who reveal secrets.
Wait....
....Oh shi.....<gets pelted with rolls and french loaves>
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(picks up a spare bagel for breakfast tomorrow) Thanks!
Back on topic: it'd be neat if one or more of these people were living at Faye's old apartment when it burned down. "Yeah, some crazy girl with glasses burned the place down because she tried making pizza in a toaster."
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To make it more interesting: "Everyone else in the building always thought she was a little....off. Some people think it wasn't really an accident..."
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It was a semi-self-destructive attempt by her subconscious to allow Marty access to her... caverns?
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Bat caverns?
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Peach caverns.
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I am now imagining a Peach-themed superheroine; somewhat akin to Batman. Hey, she saw one of her parents die right?
She overcame the trauma of seeing her father commit suicide in order to fight crime as.......THE PUGNACIOUS PEACH!!!
Someone needs to get on this.
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Don't forget to keep it above the neckline: "Luscious-fruit and delicate-flower similes are third-date material at best." 1142 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1142)
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Faye Whitaker as the Pugnacious Peach in : Mario: the super heroes.
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In jokes? We get in jokes?
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I'm cleared, and so are a number of others.
Not this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_(Scientology)) sort of Cleared? :-D
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Hanners' line in the last panel has been offically etched into my head...
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.....OK, where the hell is that coming from, Hanners?
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I'm puzzled; but I suppose she is about loyalty, even to the girl whose just dumped him?
Also, I'm wondering what the original gag was, given that he said in twitter that his first thought would only be understandable to regulars.
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damnit, jeph totally ruined my vampire joke by noticing the lack of a mirror image
well il just go with: BUTTS LOL
im just thinking here he totally discarded a possible OMG fire joke in the mirror while dark faye did this cake comment
*moment of silence to mourn this*
p.s. give us the names damnit :<
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Wow, Hanners is mad ! I think it's the first time she says a word like "butt" :lol:
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Yes, Hannelore usually expresses herself more precisely and less coarsely.
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I'm puzzled; but I suppose she is about loyalty, even to the girl whose just dumped him?
Well... Hanners does work at CoD, too. And he is getting a little lovey with that coffee/pastry/chair.
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Also, I'm wondering what the original gag was, given that he said in twitter that his first thought would only be understandable to regulars.
You need to know about CoD and why Marten's trying out a new place, I suppose.
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Should Jeph be worried with non-regulars not getting the original gag at this point?
FWIW, non-regulars wouldn't get all the nega-characters anyway.
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I don't think the "nega-character" aspect of the new people has any significance beyond the initial gag - taking it any further would be an odd way to drive a story forward.
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No, I don't mean extending the nega-joke ,I just don't think it's a bad thing to be self referential beyond a few strips
Characters return all the time, plot elements are continued after months- after 1800+ strips, I don't think he has to worry about the "I don't get it"s.
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I think Hanner's response here is a continuation of her reaction (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1805) to the break up.
As Marten starts to find replacements for the parts of his life that were disrupted by the break up, Hanners realizes that changes are real, and this scares her.
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THIS THREAD IS A BUTT AND EVERYONE WHO RESPONDS IN IT IS ALSO A BUTT
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That would mean you are a butt.
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO :psyduck:
On an actual, serious level, I was cracking up at this one. Literally laughing so much and I couldn't stop. This was GOOD.
Also, it was really, really nice to read tonight, because over in Homestuck, the author is murdering some of my favorite characters left and right. This was a beautiful change of pace. Thanks Jeph.
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THIS THREAD IS A BUTT AND EVERYONE WHO RESPONDS IN IT IS ALSO A BUTT
IF SECRET BAKERY IS A BUTT THEN I AM PROUD TO BE A BUTT
Seriously though, that was the loudest I've laughed at a QC comic in awhile.
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Ouch... completely forgot Hanners works at CoD and he's openly flirting with her competitor.
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Hanners is back to being just too cute again. I mean, not to minimize her undoubtedly true feelings, but the whole righteous indignation she's spouting off is just _so_ cute.
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I giggled more than I should have.
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Maybe I'm just in a sour mood already today (since it's Monday), but I just didn't find Hanners to be that funny. "LOL BUTT" humor rarely makes me laugh, anyway, so maybe it just falls into the "different strokes" category today.
Probably doesn't help that on another forum I was reading this morning someone posed a modified "What would you do if you had enough passive income to live moderate-middle-class on and all of your debts were paid off?" question and I got to thinking about how I'd move to DC and basically spend the rest of my days visiting awesome landmarks and museums and researching things at the National Archives and... then I looked around at my office here and started getting even more aggravated than usual for a Monday.
EDIT: DC basically being the hot single woman capital of the US, especially compared to the wasteland rural area I live in when I get home from my commute just adds insult to injury here.
I think I'm in a very bad place this morning. :mrgreen:
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She overcame the trauma of seeing her father commit suicide in order to fight crime as.......THE PUGNACIOUS PEACH!!!
Her superpower is fire. Her costume is a Russian fur hat and a bright yellow dress.
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HANNERS RULEZ. ALL FOLLOW HANNERS. NOW !
I think Hanner's response here is a continuation of her reaction (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1805) to the break up.
As Marten starts to find replacements for the parts of his life that were disrupted by the break up, Hanners realizes that changes are real, and this scares her.
I agree.
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I'm puzzled; but I suppose she is about loyalty, even to the girl whose just dumped him?
Well... Hanners does work at CoD, too. And he is getting a little lovey with that coffee/pastry/chair.
As pwhodges and Emperor Norton point out, Hanners could be annoyed about several things. I am leaning towards the theory that she is about to go all insightful on him about "why the heck would you just let her go". We will see. I am seldom sure about where Hannelore is going. It's part of her charm. Sort of like Jeph. :-D
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Maybe I'm just in a sour mood already today (since it's Monday), but I just didn't find Hanners to be that funny. "LOL BUTT" humor rarely makes me laugh, anyway, so maybe it just falls into the "different strokes" category today.
For me, it just underscored how "child-like" Hanners can get at times; the whole "This place is a butt and you are also a butt" was very, oh, 8-year old-ish... which is what made it cute for me. So I guess it isn't so much "LOL BUTT" humour as "Aww, Hanners makes just the cutest little girl" humour. For me, anyway. Although, gown-up insight from Hannelore is always nice too!
I think I'm in a very bad place this morning. :mrgreen:
I'm sorry you've been having a bad day, and I do hope that it gets better.
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Sorry to hear you're in a bad place this morning - I recommend a course of leeches to drain the bad humours from your blood. (this would be funnier if I could link to the scene from Blackadder - Parte the Seconde, damn the firewall)
Results of yesterday's poll:
Will we see more of The Secret Bakery?
Shhh! It's a secret 25 (49%)
Yes, that information has been cleared for general distribution 10 (19.6%)
No, Jeph went to all that trouble to play with us 9 (17.6%)
It was easier than drawing The IHOP 7 (13.7%)
Total Voters: 51
And now the secret is out. I guess Hanners is rather loyal to both her friends and place of employment.
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Ouch... completely forgot Hanners works at CoD and he's openly flirting with her competitor.
Yeah, and CoD is her first conventional employment. I too was very ernest and serious about my first job...
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gown-up insight
I really didn't take Hanners for that sort of girl.
On her reaction, my first thought (after stopping the giggles) was "Divorce does tend to hit the kids the hardest."
D
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I would vote for loyalty, as Hanners puts up with "NO BUTS!" at CoD. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1002)
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Oh, yeah. The initiation rite. Right. Boy, that sure was some initiation rite, wasn't it ...? (walks away, whistling ...)
EDITED to spell "rite" right.
I'm pleased that you took the effort to write "rite" right. ;)
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I'm wondering if Marten is overcompensating now that he's found a very similar alternative to CoD and may feel a need to justify his move there beyond spliting up with the owner.
In the mean time, Hanners reminded me to go and read http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/ (http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/)
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Ouch... completely forgot Hanners works at CoD and he's openly flirting with her competitor.
Yeah, and CoD is her first conventional employment. I too was very ernest and serious about my first job...
So am I - still wearing a silly green suit(part-time) after nearly 25 years. And doing that legal schtick after nearly 15. There is something to be said for consistency.
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uh i didn't even read the poll options, i just clicked were it said "pancakes" :psyduck:
i'm really happy that Marten seems a lot more relaxed now :lol:
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"THIS PLACE IS A BUTT AND YOU ARE ALSO A BUTT!"
*ROFLMAO*
I gotta say, Hannelore has blazed a bold new trail in the field of insults.
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Aaaand I think its just hit home for Hanners that the break up is permanent. Poor girl is probably thinking that she'll be abandoned by one of her friends now, the same way her mother just left her with her father.
Cue Hanners acting out a Parent Trap-esque misadventure to get Dora and Marten back together in a misguided attempt to make them both happy again.
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THIS THREAD IS A BUTT AND EVERYONE WHO RESPONDS IN IT IS ALSO A BUTT
Hannelore has obviously been spending way too much time with Marigold. "O venom-tongued maiden! Stay your barbs, I beseech you!" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1553)
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Sometimes you just want to hug Hanners... then getting flailed to unconsciousness :-D
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And doing that legal schtick after nearly 15.
I so misread this as "doing that legal chick". :-o
Re. the use of "butt", I can only assunme Hanners is attempting to self-censor herself, with hilarious results.
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Oh dear, now along with her OCD it seems that Hanners has picked up another malady
CoD Tourettes
Dun Dun DUNNNNNNNNN!!!!
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Oh dear, now along with her OCD it seems that Hanners has picked up another malady
CoD Tourettes
Dun Dun DUNNNNNNNNN!!!!
just made me lol :P
i do think hanners is gona make some sort of attempt to restore the peace, maybe reccomend her shrink again
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I'm wondering if Marten is overcompensating now that he's found a very similar alternative to CoD and may feel a need to justify his move there beyond spliting up with the owner.
I think he's definitely overcompensating, but not so much to justify a permanent change - I think the change will be temporary, he'll go back to CoD sooner or later. Right now, he's really just trying to make himself feel good about having to make some distance.
Basically, he's making the best of an uncomfortable situation, and Hanners is reading "disaster" and (over)reacting pretty poorly. I didn't really see it as all that funny, just kinda sad.
TGINF (Thank God It's Not Friday), I wanna see where this goes!
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She overcame the trauma of seeing her father commit suicide in order to fight crime as.......THE PUGNACIOUS PEACH!!!
Her superpower is fire. Her costume is a Russian fur hat and a bright yellow dress.
Her super power is making men feel like misogynist pricks (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=798).
However, the costume is right on!
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Hmm, I wonder if the head of the secret bakery recently had a bad breakup and her SO and one of her employees was wandering around and went into Coffee of Doom....
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I can only hope that he looks exactly like Marten and walks into three panels of gut-wrenching, twitchy, stony silence.
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Aaaand I think its just hit home for Hanners that the break up is permanent. Poor girl is probably thinking that she'll be abandoned by one of her friends now, the same way her mother just left her with her father.
Cue Hanners acting out a Parent Trap-esque misadventure to get Dora and Marten back together in a misguided attempt to make them both happy again.
Except that apparently Hannelore wanted to stay with her father. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=922) Then again, that's coming from her mother, who might be trying to convince herself that is indeed the case and she wasn't just dumping her daughter off. hmm...
On a side note, "Coffeeshop Polyamory" sounds like some kind of hipster porno.
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if you love this forum so much why don't you just marry it. anyway, i like hanners. good stuff.
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On a side note, "Coffeeshop Polyamory" sounds like some kind of hipster porno.
...or a new band.
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Anyone else thing the pastry thing looks like a pop tart?
Loving this arc.
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Toaster Strudel. Definitely Toaster Strudel. It has that squiggly icing stuff on it.
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Why is Hannelore dressed like a trucker?
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Why is Hannelore dressed like a trucker?
It' s her Silly Hat for defeating awkwardness. Hasn't kicked in yet. I think the activation phrase is "THIS PLACE IS A BUTT AND YOU ARE ALSO A BUTT."
Or not.
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Given that Hanners' hat isn't silly then we can presume why we were unable to defeat awkwardness earlier.
That's simply her code phrase for "I have no idea how to be supportive to both of my friends without feeling like I am not being more supportive to one than the other, and I would much rather be avoiding the unpleasantness, but know that I need to be supportive of my friends, so here I am!"
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As someone who works in a small store, I can sympathize with the Loyalty that goes into it, and the scorn that one feels for the competition! :lol:
So, I could say that Hanner's reaction is a mix of loyalty to CoD and maybe a little fear that Marten will like the Secret Bakery so much, that he will never come back to CoD.
Pretty reasonable for Hannelore, considering.
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She was wearing the same hoodie that day, too.
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It'll be easier for him to not go back to CoD, at least not for awhile, and maybe not ever. Going into CoD when Dora's there would create an Awkward Zone not even funny hats could dispel.
Hanners is right to be worried about this. Which probably means she'll attempt to "fix" this and end up making it worse.
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I think he's definitely overcompensating, but not so much to justify a permanent change - I think the change will be temporary, he'll go back to CoD sooner or later. Right now, he's really just trying to make himself feel good about having to make some distance.
That's not quite how I read it.
I thought he was having a geniune realisation that there are "other cafes out there" (make whatever analogies you like), and that not going back to CoD (at least for the time being) might not be so bad as he had feared. In other words, I don't think he's trying to make himself feel good - he is feeling good, and is a bit surprised by that.
In the meantime, it's dawning on Hanners that there is a real possibility that Marten won't be back at CoD, that their group will be splintered; and she's scared by it.
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I hope that Marten doesn't let Hanners' accusations of his buttness sway him - I really, really want to see more of the Secret Bakery and its employees.
Also, I accidentally typed this--> :I -earlier in this post and I think it looks like a fat guy, or someone in the middle of chewing food.
So yeah.
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if you love this forum so much why don't you just marry it. anyway, i like hanners. good stuff.
If I could marry the internet not only would I have done it by now, I'd also be pregnant with its third child.
Wow only as I was tying that did I realize how creepy that sounds. :psyduck:
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This is probably a dumb question, but - in the last panel, is Hanners talking to Marten or the other woman?
Looks like it's directed at PseuDora. Follow the eyes - definitely above Marten.
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I think Hanner's response here is a continuation of her reaction (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1805) to the break up.
As Marten starts to find replacements for the parts of his life that were disrupted by the break up, Hanners realizes that changes are real, and this scares her.
Makes sense. The most frightening thing for someone with OCD is a disruption of their routine.
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On a side note, "Coffeeshop Polyamory" sounds like some kind of hipster porno.
...or a new band.
and by quantum band dynamics it now exists
if you love this forum so much why don't you just marry it. anyway, i like hanners. good stuff.
If I could marry the internet not only would I have done it by now, I'd also be pregnant with its third child.
Wow only as I was tying that did I realize how creepy that sounds. :psyduck:
i found a picture of your would be husband (http://www.campusbasement.com/uploads/creepy-guy.jpg)
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THIS THREAD IS A BUTT AND EVERYONE WHO RESPONDS IN IT IS ALSO A BUTT
IF SECRET BAKERY IS A BUTT THEN I AM PROUD TO BE A BUTT
WE ARE ALL BUTTS
TGINF (Thank God It's Not Friday), I wanna see where this goes!
Emphatically agreed. :mrgreen: I'm kinda-sorta wondering if the Secret Bakery is gonna link back to another character, either one we see all the time or one we haven't seen in awhile. I won't speculate (and no, I'm not thinking Raven), and I won't mind if there's absolutely no connection to any previous character in the strip ever until now, but I look forward to finding out.
Also, I accidentally typed this--> :I -earlier in this post and I think it looks like a fat guy, or someone in the middle of chewing food.
Chewing food, I'd say. We could call him nomguy if you like! Which I guess would make this omgnomguy: 8I
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Odds of Secret Bakery being just a small, temporary tool for some silly humor?
I'd be more than fine with it.
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Odds of Secret Bakery being just a small, temporary tool for some silly humor?
I'd be more than fine with it.
The truth of the secret bakery is that you can only find it when you need to go there. If you merely want to go there you will never find it, instead it will either be a footlocker or a store that washes alligators.
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Possible, but it's a large investment of effort on Jeph's part.
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TGINF (Thank God It's Not Friday), I wanna see where this goes!
Emphatically agreed. :mrgreen: I'm kinda-sorta wondering if the Secret Bakery is gonna link back to another character, either one we see all the time or one we haven't seen in awhile. I won't speculate (and no, I'm not thinking Raven), and I won't mind if there's absolutely no connection to any previous character in the strip ever until now, but I look forward to finding out.
It's Dale's second job. Between pizza delivery and WoW-Gendo-ing, he's also a cake decorator.
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This is probably a dumb question, but - in the last panel, is Hanners talking to Marten or the other woman?
She's talking to the other woman.
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"This place is a butt and you are also a butt" is definitely one I'm going to be remembering.
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Think I'd rather have wings than infrared vision.
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Infrared. Humans are too big for functional wings.
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That's kinda why I'd want them. They'd be huge. Do you know how freaking intimidating you'd look? Then again, it would probably make sitting a problem...
RE: Comic: Aw poor Hanners. I can relate. But I'm actually quite interested in what's going on in the background of the third panel; muscle guy looks like he just got some wtf news.
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Oh, is that his cell? I thought he found soewthing untowards in one of the pastries.
Jeph's bacgrounds (and incidentals) have not only gotten much more detailed, but more interesting - this is like a place I frequented back in the 70's, before quirky was "in". The stained glass suncatcher, the honeypot on the table, the matching silhouettes, the art nouveau print in panel 2, the sleeping barista...
Feels like home.
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What 'QC-Day' is it? The sign says that they're closed on Mondays, meaning Marten wil have to go somewhere else for coffee that day...
... and yes, I had to expand the image and wear my glasses to read that.
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Would jeph really mess with our heads like this, dangling new characters in front of us just to take them away again?
or do we get a comic tomorrow where part of his diabolical plot is revealed
im hinting to jeph being a meany :cry: and just wanting to show some emotion from hanners (instead of the OCD shenanigans we usually see)
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Infrared. Humans are too big for functional wings.
That's not true; bumblebees have wings, and the laws of physics says they're not supposed to be able to fly.
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Infrared. Humans are too big for functional wings.
That's not true; bumblebees have wings, and the laws of physics says they're not supposed to be able to fly.
Bumblebees of course operate nicely inside the laws of physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions)
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bumblebees have wings, and the laws of physics says they're not supposed to be able to fly.
*head desk*
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We haven't seen the last of the Secret Bakery.
Yes!
I can't figure out whether the guy in the third panel is trying to muster the never to call this girl he likes, or if he already has and it didn't go as well as he would have liked.
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Oh I assumed he'd gotten a perturbing text message from her. Or from someone. Guess you know what generation I am now :-P
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Oh I assumed he'd gotten a perturbing text message from her. Or from someone. Guess you know what generation I am now :-P
I'm chuckling at the thought of the guy getting a perturbing telegram... :-D
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So it looks like Marten will unexpectedly come to terms with the breakup through Hannelore. At least, that's how I see it, kind of like Marigold's "I AM ok." moment.
Agree?
Disagree?
Challenge? (readies estoc)
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Think I'd rather have wings than infrared vision.
because we have arms we cant have wings, unless we switch them
you can probably calculate how big human wing would have to be, but if i have to guess around 10-13m wingspan seeing as the largest bird ever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentavis_magnificens) was 70 kg and had a 7m wingspan
since we lack hollow bones and other adaptations, the wings and our bodies would have to get freakishly large to the point of utter uselessness to support the extra muscular weight needed and (for a 'bird') oversized legs
not to mention the huge bone plate growing on your chest to attach the wings to, lying down would be impossible so sleeping normally would get pretty hard
needless to say im going with infrared as it doesnt warrant such a dramatic physical change, an extra set of eyes at most :)
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I found this comic sort of ironic since Hanners told Marten "You are afraid of changes" back in #515.
And yes... I know that she was different back then, still hilarious for me.
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And Faye felt that way (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=576) as well. In fact that suggests more parallels with the present situation than I had thought of.
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Our favourite indy boy is showing a better insight than the drunken, lecherous lout who was rude to his mom of a day or so ago (QC time). Excellent.
How will Hanners react to the news that Marten is considering a new hairstyle and wardrobe, if she reacts like this to news that another place makes good coffee and pastries?
Hanner-rage! 18 (20%)
In a rational manner like a well balanced adult 5 (5.6%)
In whatever manner Jeph feels will advance the storyline 18 (20%)
Doesn't matter. There will continue to be the creepy folks out there with their secret folder of Hanner porn 32 (35.6%)
How are their pancakes? 11 (12.2%)
And how will we find out? 6 (6.7%)
Total Voters: 90
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Man I love Hanners.
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Agree?
Disagree?
Challenge? (readies estoc)
Hey Sharp, why an estoc? Are you expecting to have to punch through armor? :? I would personally prefer a nice rapier and dagger.
( I almost accidentally wrote "amore" instead of armor, which would have rather changed the question :) )
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Personally I approve of punching through armoires... wait.
Anyway. It's kinda weird but I sort of imagine Hanners "superteam" being a gender swapped (second gen) X-men. My brain's weird like that.
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I hope that Marten doesn't let Hanners' accusations of his buttness sway him - I really, really want to see more of the Secret Bakery and its employees.
Also, I accidentally typed this--> :I -earlier in this post and I think it looks like a fat guy, or someone in the middle of chewing food.
So yeah.
I actually use >:I quite frequently
I call it the Beaton Face
The background of sadfased husky guy and sleeping Fayelike barista made me laugh quite a bit. Don't be sad husky guy! I will comfort youuu! [/creeper]
Man I totally sympathize with Hannelore's uneasiness, change in your social structure sucks, especially if you're kinda stuck in the middle.
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Oh I assumed he'd gotten a perturbing text message from her. Or from someone. Guess you know what generation I am now :-P
I'm chuckling at the thought of the guy getting a perturbing telegram... :-D
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=770
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Kiss the girl Marten! Do it! Grow a pair and Kiss HER!!!
Can't be the only one thinking this can I?
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You talkin' about Hanners? Marten kissing her wouldn't entail growing a pair, it would result in losing a pair - I'm pretty sure her first reaction would be defensive, and probably involve a raised knee in and amongst a lot of other flailing.
Besides, it's soooo out of character for both of them, and has been thoroughly discussed trounced dismissed in other threads.
Not only will that ship not sail anytime soon, its keel hasn't even been laid...
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I don't think Hanners would become violent. Not in anyway that would be successful anyhow. She might go comatose, but hey...
I think the SS Marten&Hanners will sail soon. It's a good 'ship.
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Not only will that ship not sail anytime soon, its keel hasn't even been laid...
In fact, I think they shut down the shipyard.
Anyway, seeing as how much effort Jeph has made into creating the backgrounds of the Secret Bakery, I doubt this will be the last we see of the place.
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Shut down the yard, sold the machinery, the union got a sweet deal to relocate some of the workers - the rest are listening to the Rovers singing "When the Shipyards Go Back On Full-time" and the owners are now hiding.
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I would lay money we never see the bizzaro world coffee shop again. Not much, but I would.
Oh and the ship is already at sea and joining the fleet.
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That fleet should be burned and plundered.
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Jeph is in a recreation of the Turtle submarine, slowly making his way to the fleet, with a corkscrew drill in hand, his eyes firmly set on the flagship.
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(moderator)Shipping squicks some people here and Jeph has listed it specifically as one of the things that deters him from participating. See the "Conduct on this forum" thread. Shipping involving a character who is in some ways childlike is a double-squick(/moderator)
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Besides, Marten actually being bold enough to just grab Hanners and plant a kiss on her would be so far out of character for him as to be full blown Character Derailment. It ain't happening, he's simply NOT that bold (while sober, anyway), and his past history with simply hugging Hanners ("Hugging Hannelore Causes Hyperventilation") would tell him that going further would simply be a Very Bad Idea.
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Does the poster in panel 2 remind anyone else of the drawings Jeph made (someone else can link it) with the QC girls as the seasons?
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Shut down the yard, sold the machinery, the union got a sweet deal to relocate some of the workers - the rest are listening to the Rovers singing "When the Shipyards Go Back On Full-time" and the owners are now hiding.
Given Hanners' background (http://questionablecontent.net//view.php?comic=665) I thought this ship fell under NASA's jurisdiction... :psyduck:
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I concede probably won't happen. But it would be freaking cool!
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And that conversation ends right here.
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Does the poster in panel 2 remind anyone else of the drawings Jeph made (someone else can link it) with the QC girls as the seasons?
It is indeed one of them, I think. Simplified, but still.
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Wait, no waffle-based super powers? Or is there really a super hero that has the ability to use maple syrup?
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If there is, he's probably Canadian.
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I have the distinct feeling that anyone making a move on Hanners would result in a summoning of an Eldritch being... (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1753)
In self defense, of course.
Hanners doesn't need to get her hands dirty. She has her Ancient Friends to do it for her.
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Bill Shatner probably knows who he is.
Is it just me, or does that guy look like something's wrong with the chocolate bikkies - I hope not!
SuperHanners would be an unusual Superhero
Captain Cleanliness?
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Hanners would most likely wear her spacesuit (http://images.wikia.com/questionablecontent/images/b/b8/Qc-messes-print.jpg) instead of a superhero costume. I mean, think of all the dirt you get on your clothes while flying around!
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Hanners would most likely wear her spacesuit (http://images.wikia.com/questionablecontent/images/b/b8/Qc-messes-print.jpg) instead of a superhero costume. I mean, think of all the dirt you get on your clothes while flying around!
Either that or a maid outfit seems to be appropriate. Maybe Captain Counter would work for her too.
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Wait, no waffle-based super powers? Or is there really a super hero that has the ability to use maple syrup?
For anyone who's missing cesariojpn's reference, waffle powers (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=524).
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Besides, Marten actually being bold enough to just grab Hanners and plant a kiss on her would be so far out of character for him as to be full blown Character Derailment. It ain't happening, he's simply NOT that bold (while sober, anyway), and his past history with simply hugging Hanners ("Hugging Hannelore Causes Hyperventilation") would tell him that going further would simply be a Very Bad Idea.
It's "Hugging Hannelore Heralds Hyperventilation!"
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Dudes and ladies, just because two main characters are hanging out in more than two subsequent scripts does not mean that they should 'set sail.' That is all.
:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
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Does the poster in panel 2 remind anyone else of the drawings Jeph made (someone else can link it) with the QC girls as the seasons?
It is indeed one of them, I think. Simplified, but still.
Alphonse Mucha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_Mucha) was the artist, and he did at least two (http://www.05news.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Alphonse-Mucha.jpg) versions (http://www.essentialart.com/Kunst/Alphonse_Marie_Mucha_Les_Saisons_1900.jpg) of the seasons, along with a (http://muchaprints.com/Salon%20des%20Cent%20Mucha%20Print.jpg) huge (http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Alphonse_Mucha/moet.jpeg) amount (http://www.anewsheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/alpha1.jpg) of (http://www.essentialart.com/Kunst/Mucha_Monaco_Monte_Carlo_1897.jpg) advertising (http://www.anewsalerts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/27.jpg) work (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_buD1ncdYeE8/TFnX_jF-D1I/AAAAAAAAAFo/RcXb8Li5XhQ/s1600/alphonse-mucha-bieres-de-la-meuse.jpg).
But the style, as I mentioned in an earlier post, is called Art Nouveau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Nouveau), and he's not the only practitioner - it was a bona-fide movement at the turn of the last century. Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrec) springs to mind.
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Edit: Jeph's QC seasons (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-MUCHA-PRINT&Category_Code=QC#top)
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It's "Hugging Hannelore Heralds Hyperventilation!"
::Ahem:: Hugging Hanners Heralds Heavy (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=907) Hyperventilating"
[edited to fix my own Rule of Corrections violation]
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Not only will that ship not sail anytime soon, its keel hasn't even been laid...
I fervently hope and pray that you are right. I like Hannelore as a character enough to hope that maybe one day she could find someone to be happy with, but at the same time I know it could never be done without breaking character, unless she meets someone else who prefers not to make physical contact. Then they could have an emotional intimacy, perhaps. Maybe even some hugs.
The current series of comics have been entertaining enough. The various coffee shops were fun, this place is good for a giggle. I still would like to see some evidence of an actual shift in the plot direction though. A few light-hearted comics doesn't really change the fact that nothing good has happened to some of these characters in a few dozen strips. Obviously that's not true of everyone; some people are happy enough, but Marten, and Dora have suffered enough. The fallout has even affected Faye and Hannelore, although I think most of the time Faye is probably cheerful due to Angus.
Just to check, it's only been a couple of nights in comic-time since she last spent some time with Angus, right? This whole drama situation hasn't been keeping them apart? That would suck, because their relationship is still in the formative stage.
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I think you guys go way too far in assuming what Hanners can and cannot do. She's surprisingly capable when it gets down to it. It's like you guys see her as some sort of one-trick pony that can't do anything besides OCD OCD OCD. She has been improving a lot lately and has practically embraced the non-OCD world she lives in to where she can finally start doing some of the stuff that normal people like to do. Like dating. And falling in love.
As for Marten taking Hanners for himself....eh, no. As cute a couple I think they'd make, this is just not the right time for either of them now. But I do think that Hanners will eventually get her shit together and by the time she does, I'm hoping Marten is also single.
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As for Marten taking Hanners for himself....eh, no. As cute a couple I think they'd make, this is just not the right time for either of them now. But I do think that Hanners will eventually get her shit together and by the time she does, I'm hoping Marten is also single.
Even if I assume that Hannelore is capable of all that a relationship entails, and even if I assume that she has the desire for a relationship, I don't see them as a match. They are great friends, but I think both of them need something entirely different in a partner. I would love to see Hannelore happy with someone, but not Marten. Since I've said that, I'm sure it will now come to pass. It seems by now a given that where I would prefer the comic to turn left, it will almost inevitably turn right.
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I think you guys go way too far in assuming what Hanners can and cannot do.
All shipping aside (as far to the side as possible - I'm not a Hanners/[anyone] shipper in the slightest), this is exactly what I have been thinking. Obviously she has issues (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Understatement), but I think many here might be a little overprotective. She might be childlike in some ways, but she's not a child, and speculation about her future love life is not automatic squick in my book. "Light" shipping does seem to be tolerated around here to some degree (in practice, if not in theory), but when it involves Hanners, it's a berserk button for too many lots of people. And just for the record, I think Hanners is awesome, and I'll be in line to pummel anyone who hurts her. Or Marigold. Except I, um, don't, um, live in that , uh, universe. So Yeah. :-P
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So when is she going to stop dressing in mourning? Or is this a sign of return to goth?
I move for green hair.
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Dora has a blog?!?!?!
I must have the URL!!!
Also, when did the purple hair go away?
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Judging by the comic's title, just recently.
I think you guys go way too far in assuming what Hanners can and cannot do.
All shipping aside (as far to the side as possible - I'm not a Hanners/[anyone] shipper in the slightest), this is exactly what I have been thinking. Obviously she has issues (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Understatement), but I think many here might be a little overprotective. She might be childlike in some ways, but she's not a child, and speculation about her future love life is not automatic squick in my book. "Light" shipping does seem to be tolerated around here to some degree (in practice, if not in theory), but when it involves Hanners, it's a berserk button for too many lots of people. And just for the record, I think Hanners is awesome, and I'll be in line to pummel anyone who hurts her. Or Marigold. Except I, um, don't, um, live in that , uh, universe. So Yeah. :-P
I wasn't really being over protective, rather I was pointing out that neither Hanners nor Marten are even thinking anything in that direction. Hannelore's made leaps and bounds in progress, from the pokeslut to hugging Sven after the pretend date without heralding heavy hyperventilation. But by her own admission when arranging the date, she's not ready for the real thing, and even if she were, it'd be a long time before she'd be able to think of Marten romantically after getting so used to him and Dora being a couple.
And Marten's not used to the idea of Hannelore having romantic feelings towards anyone, least of all himself. Even if she did harbor such feelings deep down (which may explain her initial stalking of him), he knows her as a person who doesn't react well to even basic physical contact, and even as she changes, he'll have a hard time adjusting to a new Hannelore.
Besides, they're friends. Some friendships can bloom into more over time, but it's rare, and this one's just not going to head that way anytime soon.
Besides, she's going to get involved with Mr. Sensitive at the Secret Bakery... XD
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Even if I assume that Hannelore is capable of all that a relationship entails, and even if I assume that she has the desire for a relationship, I don't see them as a match. They are great friends, but I think both of them need something entirely different in a partner.
As much as I fear people viewing me as being on the shipping ship, I'd just like to toss in that with Hanners not knowing many people around here, Marten being basically her closest friend on top of being a guy, Marten being someone used to her neurosis, Marten being single and the majority of his female friends not being available at the moment, it's not a matter of whether or not they'd made a great couple, but what options they have considering their situations. Whether or not they'd made a good couple, Marten would make the most sense for her given she breaks character and enters a relationship with someone. Not that I'm saying it'd be a good idea for them in a personal sense or good for the story, but I just don't believe the "not a match" holds up much in this situation.
Of course, any moment now a new male character could enter who would debunk that specific argument.
That's just me thinking about it, not hoping. Don't get me wrong, now.
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See, this is the type of thinking I have a problem with. Just because someone is not in a relationship doesn't mean they're looking to get into a relationship! I realize you're acknowledging that it's against character for them, but the phrase, "what options they have" is where I have a problem.
The option of staying single, at least for the time being, is the one being ignored!
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I only meant that if Hannelore was to enter a relationship with anyone, Marten would make sense. Of course it makes much more sense that she just doesn't enter a relationship. I didn't mean to apply that they will because it makes sense. Of course not getting with anyone is an option. Apologies.
I wasn't giving an elbow going "Eh? Eh?! See? It fits! Go with it!".
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Oooooooh, Dora's gone to the dark side again.
Lets hope she has Cookies.
Here's an idea, have her move in with Hanners :evil:
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Didn't Hanners say she didn't think she'd be able to handle living with a roommate?
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Didn't Hanners say she didn't think she'd be able to handle living with a roommate?
I don't think she'd be able to handle living with a cat.
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See, this is the type of thinking I have a problem with. Just because someone is not in a relationship doesn't mean they're looking to get into a relationship! I realize you're acknowledging that it's against character for them, but the phrase, "what options they have" is where I have a problem.
The option of staying single, at least for the time being, is the one being ignored!
Besides, since Marten has returned to being the comic's Chew Toy/Butt Monkey (especially considering what his mom put him through), that means No Girlfriends For Him. Not in a sexual/romantic context anyway. Sure he'll have lots of girl friends, in a totally platonic fashion, but no girlfriend. Not for a long while at least; and it wouldn't surprise me if he had no girlfriend again for the rest of the comic's run. There is far too much mileage to be taken from his perpetual sexual frustration. Just you wait, Dora and Marten will reconnect as friends just around the time she starts dating again, or even banging random dudes. Marten's frustration will be epic.
And even putting aside the whole Chew Toy thing, Marten is simply far too passive to go out and get himself a girlfriend anyway. He waited months for Faye before the Talk, and the only reason he was with Dora at all was because she came onto him. I'm betting if Dora hadn't made a move, Marten wouldn't have either. And he'd probably STILL be single.
So unless Dora decides to rekindle their romance or another similarly aggressive (and attractive) girl jumps Marten, I think he'll be single for a long time to come.
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Hmm, I wonder if the head of the secret bakery recently had a bad breakup and her SO and one of her employees was wandering around and went into Coffee of Doom....
Sounds like a call for
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bad_ex.png)
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Kiss the girl Marten! Do it! Grow a pair and Kiss HER!!!
Can't be the only one thinking this can I?
Yes you are.
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I'm starting to feel sorry for Dora's hair.
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"Light" shipping does seem to be tolerated around here to some degree (in practice, if not in theory), but when it involves Hanners, it's a berserk button for too many lots of people.
People have relationships, and these can be discussed appropriately, including "realistic" speculation; I try to reserve the "shipping" label for the times it gets inappropriate, to avoid confusion. Also, if the forum appears to be in a self-correcting mood, then the odd slip may not be commented on if a moderator sees it after the moment has passed.
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I can't put my finger on the strip where Hannelore wishes she could handle having a roommate, but definitely it happened. Can any of the Masters of the Archives tell which one it was?
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Well, I know it wasn't what you were asking for, but here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=948) is Hannelore explicitly stating she couldn't handle a boyfriend.
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Hannelore wishes she could handle having a roomie. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1586)
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Yay! Dora's gone back to the black hair! :-D And she has an unposted drafts folder too eh? Very sensible. There's nothing wrong with a good cathartic rant. Offline. In a text-editor with no "send" or "post" button.
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Wooooo realistic progression and getting over things! :D I like seeing Dora smile again, and I think she looks pretty cute in that outfit. Not to mention classic black hair is kind of nice, though I personally liked the purple.
Macnut, if you do not quit busting out the tropes, you are going to become my archnemesis. :P Marten is not defined by something so narrow; sure, rolling with the demands of assertive females and falling on his face is part of him and part of the strip's humor...but he's a lot broader character than just that, and we have good evidence he's actually been pretty lucky in the love department.
I think Marty having another relationship soon in comic time is not only possible but likely--and, SHOCK AND HORROR, he and Dora might very well get back together after a while (again, comic time; it will feel like the passing of aeons to all of us). It's part of his personality; he likes having a romantic partner, or he wouldn't have spent half the time on Faye he did.
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if dora and marten would ever get back together it would be in a couple months, aka 5+ years real time
sometimes i wish i could tie jeph to his computer and lash more comics out of him, but that would at some point ruin it or him im afraid :(
i just hope jeph trains an apprentice, because he probably wont live to see marten turn 30 at this pace :>
it does strike me as a bit suprising that she 'moves on' this quickly, i expected at least a week or two of sven&dora in the same apartment comics
and her moving out once she gets sick of him, alltough that does kinda have something to do with sven not picking up a girl every evening anymore i guess
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Oh I assumed he'd gotten a perturbing text message from her. Or from someone. Guess you know what generation I am now :-P
I'm chuckling at the thought of the guy getting a perturbing telegram... :-D
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=770
Oh, well found! <Bows>
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it does strike me as a bit suprising that she 'moves on' this quickly, i expected at least a week or two of sven&dora in the same apartment comics
and her moving out once she gets sick of him, alltough that does kinda have something to do with sven not picking up a girl every evening anymore i guess
The dumper usually moves on faster than the dumpee, simply by virtue of the dumper tending to see the end of the relationship coming first. The dumpee is generally blindsided.
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The dumper usually moves on faster than the dumpee, simply by virtue of the dumper tending to see the end of the relationship coming first. The dumpee is generally blindsided.
yeah but in this case you'd expect a course of emotions that i expected to take a little longer, stages of grief and all
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Maybe the change in haircolor is meant to signify a time skip.
Wouldn't be the first time.
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I thought at first that the phrasing of Faye's question suggested that we had jumped a few days, but that's probably wrong because Faye is still dressed as when she left the flat.
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For comic 1848...
1. Yay for coming back around to black-hair Dora, my favorite of all Dora hair colors. The counter-balance to that is that I also enjoy Dora periodically changing her hair now & then simply for the sake of Change (as long as she eventually goes back to black 8-) ), it is very appropriate to Dora's character.
2. Nice to see Dora moving forward as well. Even before The Break-Up, Dora had really been having some bad times. Hopefully this is the beginning of a shift towards better times for her.
Because I missed The Secret Bakery...
3. Really loved The Secret Bakery, Jeph did a fantastic job with that short-arc. Hope we do return to it again sometime, it would be a shame after all that artistic time + effort on Jeph's part not to.
4. Good thing Secret Bakery "Dora" did not give Marten the Secret Menu (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1641), otherwise the CoD girls might have lost their favorite indie boy forevermore...
About Hannelore...
5. QC's top-most supporting character has progressed more leagues than The Nautilus under the seas from when she first stalked QC's central protagonist to watch him pee in the women's restroom sink. But likewise, she has plenty more to go before she reaches the level of "normal" (whatever that term actually means) that she thinks she desires, and that is one of the major reasons so many adore Hanners.
6. Do I think Hannelore and Marten would an "interesting" pairing? Sure, but then Hanners + [most QC cast names here] probably would. Do I think such an event would happen? .....mmmmm-Possibly, but not without a long-term period (200+ strips minimum) of build-up and a defining moment that would make the readers give a Keanu Reeves' "whoah..." Heck, Hannelore having a romantic relationship could be Jeph's gift to the readers if the world does not break apart by continent-shattering earthquakes, Noah-level floods, & super-volcanoes in 2012, that is how far I would see such a thing happening... [for your own sakes, do not watch this movie (2012). I did and lost the part of my brain that knew who the 40th President of the United States was :?]
[P.S Edit Add: More ranting than intended in retrospective review, damn late work fatigue, I guess... :psyduck:]
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I thought at first that the phrasing of Faye's question suggested that we had jumped a few days, but that's probably wrong because Faye is still dressed as when she left the flat.
So that firmly establishes that this is happening on the day after Marty-mom left town.
I thought it might have represent a few days or weeks later.
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The dumper usually moves on faster than the dumpee, simply by virtue of the dumper tending to see the end of the relationship coming first. The dumpee is generally blindsided.
yeah but in this case you'd expect a course of emotions that i expected to take a little longer, stages of grief and all
Dora's probably repressing all that. At this point, "moving on" just seems to refer to finding a place, more "moving out", but Faye saying "I'm glad to see you're moving out" would really sound rude. Dora's just starting to get on with her life, she's going to have a long way to go before anyone could say she's "moved on". In particular, that therapy she's supposed to get will be interesting...
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Why does Dora get to be heartbroken about all this? She broke up with Marten. As unhappy as he might have been in the relationship he never seemed to show any signs that he might be about to break up with her. If she's not happy to be single, it is entirely her own doing. I don't understand why the other characters have sympathy for Dora.
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There's that whole, "This isn't working, I don't know how to fix this while inside, and staying inside the relationship is only going to make us and all our friends miserable. Better a clean break and deal with it" idea. Works for some. At least one couple I know went from bad marriage to good friendship.
She gets to be heartbroken because she realizes that she had a good thing, but wasn't ready for it, and it didn't work and she couldn't see all the implications when the wheels started in motion. We call it being human. I'd be more concerned if she was "Meh, it's over, let's bang."
Results of yesterday's poll.
Wings? IR vision? Maybe not the best superpowers, but still. What would be the best thing about "Super Hanners"?
Hanners in her outfit 10 (12.5%)
The lack of debris after the villain fights 27 (33.8%)
Seeing her intrpid sidekick Winslow. 9 (11.3%)
The rest of the team (Pugnacious Peach, Goth Girl, Indy Boy, Pizza Girl and the Poet. 19 (23.8%)
Jeph's insanity after realizing that he's got to draw waaaay more backgrounds 15 (18.8%)
Total Voters: 80
Mental note, Hanners should never sign up to be part of Twisted Kaiju Theatre - or any Godzilla movie as I don't think she'd be able to handle the rubble.
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As for the polls - I love blues music, but damn there can be waay too many "My woman done left me" songs
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Back in black! I hit the sack! I've been too long I'm glad to be back! :psyduck:
.... Yeah i like much more the black-haired Dora.
The only thing to do now, is to wait for Marten to choose between CoD or tSB.... I pretty much would go for the Secret Bakery, but only for the pastries....
Now that i think about it, it's been so long since we last saw Marigold, i wonder what is she up to... Maybe getting owned by Dale?
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Not that I play WoW or anything, but back overseas, most of my platoon did--and they were quite adamant that:
Horde never falls to Alliance Scum!
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I totally want to see a shrink session with Dora
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Yay! Dora's gone back to the black hair! :-D And she has an unposted drafts folder too eh? Very sensible. There's nothing wrong with a good cathartic rant. Offline. In a text-editor with no "send" or "post" button.
She just needs to pray Pintsize never got the password to her laptop that has those unposted drafts in them.
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Maybe the change in haircolor is meant to signify a time skip.
Wouldn't be the first time.
I was wondering if someone was going to suggest that. I'm thinking - what, a week? Two?
EDIT: Oh, I didn't see that it was the same shirt... hmm. Too bad, it could have been a legit time skip.
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I thought at first that the phrasing of Faye's question suggested that we had jumped a few days, but that's probably wrong because Faye is still dressed as when she left the apartment.
Nothing personal, Mr. Moderator sir, but FTFY (Americans call them that; "flats" are a type of women's shoes).
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I see what you did there, Jeph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVYuGVdGhhE)
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Jeph? A BEATLES fan? I don't think so, Tim.
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The dumper usually moves on faster than the dumpee, simply by virtue of the dumper tending to see the end of the relationship coming first. The dumpee is generally blindsided.
If it's been less than a day since Ms. Reed left town, then what I said above does not apply to Dora right now-she could not have "moved on" yet unless she had decided to dump Marten weeks or months before-and it doesn't look like that's what happened from the past few months of comics. So, I agree with Carl-E that she's most likely repressing-or may be "all cried out" for the time being.
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I thought at first that the phrasing of Faye's question suggested that we had jumped a few days, but that's probably wrong because Faye is still dressed as when she left the flat.
People never wear an outfit more than once, nor do they sometimes wear them again within a few days of each other if laundry day falls between wearings.
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You know, I was recently re-reading "Queen of Wands" with the commmentary by Aeire, and at one point she stated, and I paraphrase, -let my main protagonist be happy? That would be boring and where would the humor be?- That was the jist of the comment anyway. I read that, and immediately flashed on this whole storyline that Jeph is/has been doing. I am not a writer, or that may have occurred to me earlier in the arc.
I would have really hated to have read "Queen of Wands while it was running because watching everything happening in slo-mo would have been agonizing. Oh gee. Look at what is happening in QC!? I'll survive. I MUST know what happens next!! :wink:
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Jeph? A BEATLES fan? I don't think so, Tim.
Why not? (I have no idea if he is, but his taste seems pretty catholic from what I know of it.)
People never wear an outfit more than once, nor do they sometimes wear them again within a few days of each other if laundry day falls between wearings.
Of course, she could - but I'm sure we can agree that it would be natural for the artist to make a change for successive appearances that are not the same day, precisely to signal that.
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Just pointing out that if it makes more sense for time to have passed since we last saw the coffee shop, in terms of character development, using "Jeph used the same clothing instead of a different outfit!" is a pretty weak basis for saying it is still the same day.
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Not that I play WoW or anything, but back overseas, most of my platoon did--and they were quite adamant that:
Horde never falls to Alliance Scum!
Now i want to be North-American and join the Army.
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Maybe it's just me, but I like Hanners being single. I enjoy asexual characters, even though she's just a "practicing" asexual, instead of aromantic or truly asexual.
I think Dora's got a grip on herself. Yes, breakups are hard, regardless of who initiated it. And she is certainly allowed to be sad. But moping about Won't fix a thing, especially if you have a business to keep afloat and a sibling to abuse. And if she is "going" goth(I have my ow issues with that, but I will not harp on them lest I derail the thread), it doesn't mean she has to be mopey and "dark". I think she's trying to deal with a bad situation constructively and maturely, that doesn't involve copious amounts of alcohol.
Also, country is awesome. Most of it is not, in fact, about losing the dog/wife/truck and getting trashed because of it.
Pardon my ignorance-what does FTFY stand for?
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Maybe it's just me, but I like Hanners being single. I enjoy asexual characters, even though she's just a "practicing" asexual, instead of aromantic or truly asexual.
I think Dora's got a grip on herself. Yes, breakups are hard, regardless of who initiated it. And she is certainly allowed to be sad. But moping about Won't fix a thing, especially if you have a business to keep afloat and a sibling to abuse. And if she is "going" goth(I have my ow issues with that, but I will not harp on them lest I derail the thread), it doesn't mean she has to be mopey and "dark". I think she's trying to deal with a bad situation constructively and maturely, that doesn't involve copious amounts of alcohol.
Also, country is awesome. Most of it is not, in fact, about losing the dog/wife/truck and getting trashed because of it.
Pardon my ignorance-what does FTFY stand for?
FTFY - Fixed that for you.
I'm just wondering if Dora is moving on a little too quickly, in that she isn't actually confronting things and is thinking that if she jumps into work she can avoid exactly why she broke up with Marten. I mean, was it yesterday or the day before (comic time) that Dora was bricking it about Veronica being in town, now its a case of "Meh, I can sit around moping or I can do something".
In my mind, what she's doing now is another form of avoidance, something the Dora has done quite a few times, both in the comic and what little background we've come across. I wouldn't be surprised if Dora does skip the session with the psychiatrist (whenever that appointment).
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Guys Faye said "gettin' on with your life," that doesn't have to be the same as "moving on completely," it just means Dora's still managing to live her life through the pain, which is good considering she has a business to run and a new apartment to find. Dora's still probably feeling pretty bad, but she's got shit to do, so she's sucking it up and doing it.
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Yeah, no, "getting on with your life" is pretty much always meant to be "moving on (completely)" when you're talking about breakups. People that don't move on completely and see that as normal have issues.
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I see what you did there, Jeph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVYuGVdGhhE)
I was thinking more along these lines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhHTA6Gzn0
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Yay! Dora's gone back to the black hair! :-D And she has an unposted drafts folder too eh? Very sensible. There's nothing wrong with a good cathartic rant. Offline. In a text-editor with no "send" or "post" button.
She just needs to pray Pintsize never got the password to her laptop that has those unposted drafts in them.
Well, if nothing else that might be an interesting bit of growth. Pintsize on Martens birthday offers him those posts being sent all over in the effort to help Marten with his pain/get revenge. Marten looks at the jump drive, then runs a magnet over it and tells pintsize to delete the files he has on the subject.
Then due to a 3 laws glitch pintsize deletes all his porn passwords and cries.
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Jeph? A BEATLES fan? I don't think so, Tim.
She thinks of him, and so she dresses in black, and though he'll never come back, she's dressed in black. That was the joke. You killed my joke, man. Why.
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I could see Dora and Hanners being roommates, provided that Sven's willing to take in Mieville.
He's already got one cat...Sven can morph into Crazy Cat Dude.
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I could see Dora and Hanners being roommates, provided that Sven's willing to take in Mieville.
He's already got one cat...Sven can morph into Crazy Cat Dude.
i recall one comic regarding interchanging clothes and the infrequent occurance of laundry day with dora and hanners that begs to differ
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Fae still hits people I see :)
Dora is all messed up about the breakup too. I seem to remember she promised to seek help. I wonder if there is a moment in her past like the moment in Fae's past that caused her to be like she is.
Dora's brother is a sex addict of some kind and Dora seems to gravitate toward abusive relationships. Perhaps they have a shared trauma?
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I could see Dora and Hanners being roommates, provided that Sven's willing to take in Mieville.
He's already got one cat...Sven can morph into Crazy Cat Dude.
Taking a roommate could be very therapeutic for Hanners. Living to learn with someone who might leave the butter dish out and all.
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Hurray for the black hair and for all the rock and roll videos!
That's all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-LKOTppacA)
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Jeph? A BEATLES fan? I don't think so, Tim.
She thinks of him, and so she dresses in black, and though he'll never come back, she's dressed in black. That was the joke. You killed my joke, man. Why.
I'm a loser, and I've lost someone who's near to me. I'm a loser, and I'm not what I appear to be... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUe-lXAoSZI)
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Well, if nothing else that might be an interesting bit of growth. Pintsize on Martens birthday offers him those posts being sent all over in the effort to help Marten with his pain/get revenge. Marten looks at the jump drive, then runs a magnet over it and tells pintsize to delete the files he has on the subject.
Except that magnets don't usually work on jump drives, so Pintsize will recover the jump drive after Marten puts it down, cackle maniacally, and then in a misplaced fit of revenge post it on the internetz.
No, I don't advocate this at all.
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Nothing personal, Mr. Moderator sir, but FTFY (Americans call them that; "flats" are a type of women's shoes).
So? Mr. Hodges is English (or at least lives in Oxford), and was not putting the word "flat" in the mouth of an American person or character, so why should he use anything but his native dialect of our mostly shared language? Are you going to start nitpicking my Australian English next*? Should I start using USAnian spelling conventions, for example, to avoid pricking your precious bubble of cultural uniformity? :-D
*In Australia we refer to "flats" as "units", and either is way shorter than "apartments". Short words have been preferred to polysyllables by users of English far more skilled than I, such as Abraham Lincoln, George Orwell, and Winston Churchill. :angel:
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I could see Dora and Hanners being roommates, provided that Sven's willing to take in Mieville.
He's already got one cat...Sven can morph into Crazy Cat Dude.
Taking a roommate could be very therapeutic for Hanners. Living to learn with someone who might leave the butter dish out and all.
Well, no. OCD doesn't work like that. Perhaps if she was just a bit anal about things, then perhaps, but since she has an actual disorder it would probably make it worse. If she later learns to handle her disorder even more effectively than she already does, then perhaps. But as of right now, I doubt it'd be a good plan.
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Mr. Hodges is English (or at least lives in Oxford)
Yes, I am as English as they come. Went to Oxford University, and now (after many other things) work there. Have also worked at the BBC. When I used to travel more on business, I was several times asked by Americans on planes to talk for them so that they could relish my accent - which is best RP (here are some examples recorded for another part of the forum a while ago: Kafka on the Shore (http://www.M/F.com/?tony4dtznmz)*; John Betjeman (http://cassland.org/sounds/BetjemanPoems.mp3)).
* In this URL, change M/F to something similar to mediafyre
As for language - so long as we understand one another, that's cool. And if we don't we can ask. No more need be said on that.
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Mr. Hodges is English (or at least lives in Oxford)
Yes, I am as English as they come. Went to Oxford University, and now (after many other things) work there. Have also worked at the BBC. When I used to travel more on business, I was several times asked by Americans on planes to talk for them so that they could relish my accent - which is best RP (here are some examples recorded for another part of the forum a while ago: Kafka on the Shore (http://www.M/F.com/?tony4dtznmz)*; John Betjeman (http://cassland.org/sounds/BetjemanPoems.mp3)).
* In this URL, change M/F to something similar to mediafyre
As for language - so long as we understand one another, that's cool. And if we don't we can ask. No more need be said on that.
Are you a Doctor Who Fan?
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Are you a Doctor Who Fan?
Doctor Who rocks! Sometimes there's nothing more smashing than, after a long day at work, taking the lift up to my flat and enjoying some Who on the telly while munching on a spot of chips. :)
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All the Doctors - starting with:
(http://cassland.org/images/Hartnell.jpg)
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Nothing personal, Mr. Moderator sir, but FTFY (Americans call them that; "flats" are a type of women's shoes).
So? Mr. Hodges is English (or at least lives in Oxford), and was not putting the word "flat" in the mouth of an American person or character, so why should he use anything but his native dialect of our mostly shared language? Are you going to start nitpicking my Australian English next*? Should I start using USAnian spelling conventions, for example, to avoid pricking your precious bubble of cultural uniformity? :-D
*In Australia we refer to "flats" as "units", and either is way shorter than "apartments". Short words have been preferred to polysyllables by users of English far more skilled than I, such as Abraham Lincoln, George Orwell, and Winston Churchill. :angel:
Hey now! ;) Just remember: the USA, the UK and Australia are three nations divided by a common language. :lol:
Faye would refer to the place as an apartment, so that's where the FTFY came from. Either that or "place".
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Dora is all messed up about the breakup too. I seem to remember she promised to seek help. I wonder if there is a moment in her past like the moment in Fae's past that caused her to be like she is.
Dora's brother is a sex addict of some kind and Dora seems to gravitate toward abusive relationships. Perhaps they have a shared trauma?
This is a fascinating thought. I'm not convinced that Dora's problems can be accounted for without worse things in her past than we've seen.
Raoulleferre makes a case that their parents were neglectful.
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Raoulleferre makes a case that their parents were neglectful.
Let's see: Dad spent his earlier years as a freelance photographer for National Geographic, which means he traveled all over the world; Mom seemed to be pretty free-wheeling (lighting up and fantasizing about Marten in front of Dora!). I'd suspect that they were like some of the parents in John Hughes movies - completely clueless, focused mostly on themselves, and pretty much expecting the school system to teach their children a sense of right and wrong.
Maybe that's not out-and-out child neglect, but it's damnably close.
Of course, we don't know when the Bianchis moved to Florida (as Dora mentioned in 442). Maybe they left in the middle of her HS years, when the "fake friends" were frequent?
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And she has an unposted drafts folder too eh? Very sensible. There's nothing wrong with a good cathartic rant. Offline. In a text-editor with no "send" or "post" button.
That reminds me.....Did Pintsize ever have access to Dora's Computer? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1796)
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I'm also assuming that Dora re-did her hair after kicking Sven out of the apartment.
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Hi Steve! Crass as ever!
(And Marten's also wearing the same shirt, so time has quite definitely not passed.)
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FEH on crass. Steve's trying to cheer up his friend, which puts him slightly above his mom. (Hitting on that waitress for him doesn't count.) Cosette needs to hush.
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Steve...
......don't ever change. :lol:
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...Now I'm intrigued about Cosette's grandma.
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So THAT'S what Steve's face looked like under all the hobofuzz! I half-expected a clan of tiny ninjas to be living in there by now!
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Oh, thats not true. Martens Mom offered to spend the rest of her life in prison, so she tried really hard to cheer Marten up.
Her skills at cheering up are just even worse than those of Steve. Which quite honestly is quite a feat, considering todays comic.
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...Cosette, you have a scary grandma.
And oh good Lord, Steve.
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cosette is being awefully cool about it ;o
most GF's would flip out if you'd suggest that
and you'd never think her as being capable of doing stuff that crazy, she must have been completely carparked
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Yeah Steve's got balls to suggest that right in front of his friggin girlfriend. But he better watch it if he wants to keep said balls.
You know what I'd like to know? How Marten and Steve met each other. I'm just sayin', they're not very similar so I wouldn't be surprised if there was an interesting story behind how they got to be buddies.
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I dunno, they seem to have similar interests in broad terms (music, beer, boobs) just different personalities. Steve is outgoing, blunt and decisive. Martin is more reserved, tactful and somewhat less decisive. Lots of friendship have these dynamics. There probably is a story behind it, but the friendship itself isn't really unusual.
So THAT'S what Steve's face looked like under all the hobofuzz! I half-expected a clan of tiny ninjas to be living in there by now!
I miss the "hobofuzz" already. Steve's beard was awesome.
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I dunno, they seem to have similar interests in broad terms (music, beer, boobs) just different personalities. Steve is outgoing, blunt and decisive. Martin is more reserved, tactful and somewhat less decisive. Lots of friendship have these dynamics. There probably is a story behind it, but the friendship itself isn't really unusual.
Even so I'd like to know how they met. I just like having backstories you know?
My own best friend and I are very dissimilar in a lot of ways; I know it's not unusual but it's still interesting, I think.
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The Bachelorette party - where many women demonstrate that they have the same drives as the menfolk, but can be more adept at not generally advertising it. Or so I've heard....
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New poll
Old poll
Other things we need to avoid as well as "ice cream fatness" and "shameful blog posts" Going on a six month plus country music and blues bender 11 (15.9%)
The tequila monster (seriously, tequila is a horrible drink) 15 (21.7%)
Looking for "Mr./Miss/? Right (Now)" 11 (15.9%)
Let's try a complete wardrobe and lifestyle makeover 6 (8.7%)
Sorry, I was thinking about pancakes and waffles, what was the question? 26 (37.7%)
Total Voters: 69
Right now I'm feeling cheerful with some Fats Domino on the iTouch
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I'm going for the decent jam session. After something big failing (and feeling like a big failure for it), having something else you do go well can be a very ... enlightening experience.
And it's an excuse to get Sven into the deathmole group - I'd love to see Him, Hanners, Marten and Amir Longtymnosi (I found his last name), they'd really rock!
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Even so I'd like to know how they met. I just like having backstories you know?
My own best friend and I are very dissimilar in a lot of ways; I know it's not unusual but it's still interesting, I think.
im guessing they met when marten had just broke up with the girl he followed to northhampton (cant find her name atm ;o) and he was moping around in a bar
but some things suggest they met a little earlier, maybe right after he moved?
it would be cool to get a flashback arc about this
btw this poll shows a distinct lack of random titties
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Steve doesn't seem to know Marten as well as he thinks he does. The Pugnacious Peach realized that Marten wouldn't go to a strip club (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=731).
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Steve is just being his usual tactless self. Total bro move though. "Heartbroken? Let's hit the strip club/get you drunk/get you laid!" I think Cosette has a right to be peeved. Her boyfriend is talking about hitting the strip club and random titties in front of her. Some girls are cool with that sort of things, some aren't and I think, as her boyfriend, Steve should know which category she falls in to.
I think outgoing, attention grabbing people need a sidekick. A quiet friend who's there for them, goes along/let's themselves be dragged along on their adventures, but doesn't steal center stage.
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I don't think Steve is thinking entirely about what's best for Marten.
...Amir Longtymnosi (I found his last name)...
What kind of name is that, Pakistani?
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Ahh, Steve, we knew we could rely on ya :-D
And Cosettes grandmother does sound scary.
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Steve doesn't seem to know Marten as well as he thinks he does. The Pugnacious Peach realized that Marten wouldn't go to a strip club (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=731).
Big difference between trying to imagine Marten at a strip club (and failing) and him never actually going to one. Sometimes you just can't imagine people in certain situations, even though it is likely that they may have done that.
Though given what Veronica used to do (or still does), and the fact that there were often burlesque dancers at their home when he was growing up, I seriously think Marten kinda sees stripclubs as being something similar to what Veronica may have done (Not saying she was a stripper, but as a fetish model, she may have done special performances at clubs. Not that Marten would have watched, but it would have been something he'd rather not think about). And given that only a few days before, there were a pair of breasts for him to admire, I don't think he's quite in the mood to see a stranger's breasts shoved into his face.
Other than that....woooo, Steve's back!
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And it's an excuse to get Sven into the deathmole group - I'd love to see Him, Hanners, Marten and Amir Longtymnosi (I found his last name), they'd really rock!
Seconded (not for the first time :roll:).
What kind of name is that, Pakistani?
The only google hit I got pointed at Philippines. Tagalog? I'm afraid my only guess to the meaning of that name would be that 'long' means what we think it does, and 'tymnosi' refers to a part of male anatomy.
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btw this poll shows a distinct lack of random titties
Yes, because Marten's indicated that random boobage isn't going to cheer him up. Granted, he made no mention of specific boobage and I omitted that as an option because that would be too easy and playing to the lowest common denominator.
Maybe tomorrow.
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And it's an excuse to get Sven into the deathmole group - I'd love to see Him, Hanners, Marten and Amir Longtymnosi (I found his last name), they'd really rock!
Seconded (not for the first time :roll:).
What kind of name is that, Pakistani?
The only google hit I got pointed at Philippines. Tagalog? I'm afraid my only guess to the meaning of that name would be that 'long' means what we think it does, and 'tymnosi' refers to a part of male anatomy.
More cryptic than I intended, I suppose. Unless we're all just pulling legs here. :roll:
Just in case, sound it out.
Long-tym-no-si.
:laugh:
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I've never understood why many women get so upset about strip clubs. If a guy so much as LOOKS at one of the girls wrong, it's a dislocated shoulder and a Fresh Prince-style tossout for him.
Based on the videos I've seen online (and why would they lie to me), women can get away with an infinitely larger amount of stuff in a strip club than a man can. Personally, strip clubs bore the shit out of me. Why would I want to blue-ball myself like that?
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I've never understood why many women get so upset about strip clubs.
Cool Story Bro mode: engage!
A few decades back, I had a part time job as a chauffeur for a stripper agency.
Basically drive the girls (and male strippers too) between bars on weekends and evenings.
Their opinion was that they were exploiting the customers much more than they were being exploited. They were in control of the interaction with the customers, not the other way around.
Customer: drunk, horny, throwing money (literally) at the stripper. Yelling "you're beautiiifulll". Not getting laid at the end of the night.
Stripper: getting paid well, able to get random people to buy them drinks and throw cash at them, able to go home with anyone in they bar they choose, or not. Basically being paid to be the life of the party.
And, the crowds at the male stripper gigs were wayyy wilder than the guys ever got watching "random titties".
The women in the crowd were loud, and active. Out for a party night.
The guys were polite applause, and try not to look like a total perv... until they got slobbering drunk.
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And it's an excuse to get Sven into the deathmole group - I'd love to see Him, Hanners, Marten and Amir Longtymnosi (I found his last name), they'd really rock!
I'm AFRIDI you got his last name wrong. Yes, Jeph did name him. No, I'm not going to reveal where I found that.
...And I'm hoping that our Bakery lady is related to him somehow.
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And it's an excuse to get Sven into the deathmole group - I'd love to see Him, Hanners, Marten and Amir Longtymnosi (I found his last name), they'd really rock!
No, I'm not going to reveal where I found that.
dont be a tease, share the secret info compendium your hinting :<
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Let's just say it's back in the website's archives, if you know where to look.*
And I'm going with TheEvilDog - considering that Mom just blew through town** recently, going to a strip club would just remind him too much of how mom embarrassed him in front of his friends and made him more miserable.
As for "How Marten Met Steve" - It would not surprise me in the least if Steve's dad "knew" Marten's mom. I mean, his dad has been divorced several times already...
* - Hint: Google "questionable content cast".
** - GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTER, PEOPLE.
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dont be a tease, share the secret info compendium your hinting :<
My guess, Jwhouk got it from the QC cast page.
And Jwhouk, my point was that Marten might have grown up around strip and fetish clubs, for him, it might be something of a "meh" situation while Steve might be going "woooo boobs!"
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'Tis true. Normally, going to a strip club for Marten would be like going to your mom's (or dad's) workplace would be for you.
On a different note: The cast list (see signature line) has been updated!
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You sir are a brilliant workaholic. And I was only remembering a former kerfuffle about his last name...
:oops:
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I imagine Marten at a strip club would be a lot like Something Positives Davan
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Worse, he wouldn't be cruel. And with his luck, one of the older strippers would recognize him -
"Marty, hi! I haven't seen you or your mom in ages! How is she, anyway?"
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Hi Steve! Crass as ever!
(And Marten's also wearing the same shirt, so time has quite definitely not passed.)
Unless he is so depressed he can't bring himself to change clothes.
(I can't take off this shirt man, it was the last shirt I was in when she dumped me. I can smell her perfume on it.)
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So THAT'S what Steve's face looked like under all the hobofuzz! I half-expected a clan of tiny ninjas to be living in there by now!
There actually is a clan of tiny ninjas living on his face. You can't see them, because they're ninjas.
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Worse, he wouldn't be cruel. And with his luck, one of the older strippers would recognize him -
"Marty, hi! I haven't seen you or your mom in ages! How is she, anyway?"
Worse than that: Veronica would *be* there. Friends in the City, right ...
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Benny Hill/Monty python/Blackadder marathon
What? Fawlty Towers/Are You Being Served/Keeping Up Appearances would be a better combo.
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Dora is all messed up about the breakup too. I seem to remember she promised to seek help. I wonder if there is a moment in her past like the moment in Fae's past that caused her to be like she is.
Dora's brother is a sex addict of some kind and Dora seems to gravitate toward abusive relationships. Perhaps they have a shared trauma?
This is a fascinating thought. I'm not convinced that Dora's problems can be accounted for without worse things in her past than we've seen.
Raoulleferre makes a case that their parents were neglectful.
Damn. Knew my ears were burning.
It certainly sounds like it, when I hear Dora's side of things. But, then again, she could simply be a more delusional crackpot than I realize an unreliable narrator.
Anyway, noticed today that Cosette is becomeing the most attractively drawn girl in the cast. The darker hair was a good move, even if she was coerced.
And thank god, no Stooges in the poll. I don't get that at all.
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Nothing personal, Mr. Moderator sir, but FTFY (Americans call them that; "flats" are a type of women's shoes).
So? Mr. Hodges is English (or at least lives in Oxford), and was not putting the word "flat" in the mouth of an American person or character, so why should he use anything but his native dialect of our mostly shared language? Are you going to start nitpicking my Australian English next*? Should I start using USAnian spelling conventions, for example, to avoid pricking your precious bubble of cultural uniformity? :-D
*In Australia we refer to "flats" as "units", and either is way shorter than "apartments". Short words have been preferred to polysyllables by users of English far more skilled than I, such as Abraham Lincoln, George Orwell, and Winston Churchill. :angel:
As another comment on that... I live in the US, and the word flat to mean apartment IS used here. Seriously, that was a pretty petty post(jwhouk's, not Akima's).
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What? Fawlty Towers/Are You Being Served/Keeping Up Appearances would be a better combo.
Damn, those were quite good shows.
Hmm, how would The Office(prefering the original version, thou the us version is quite good too)/The Fast Show/Father Ted-marathon sound?
(the original idea of Hill/Pythons/Blackadder was almost perfect, if Benny hill would be changed to Fawlty/Office, that would be massive overdose if brilliant comed, IMHO)
Yup, I'm fan of britcom, i know.. :roll:
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What? Fawlty Towers/Are You Being Served/Keeping Up Appearances would be a better combo.
Damn, those were quite good shows.
Hmm, how would The Office(prefering the original version, thou the us version is quite good too)/The Fast Show/Father Ted-marathon sound?
(the original idea of Hill/Pythons/Blackadder was almost perfect, if Benny hill would be changed to Fawlty/Office, that would be massive overdose if brilliant comed, IMHO)
Yup, I'm fan of britcom, i know.. :roll:
The Office UK, was a different form of entertainment. Garvis's performance as branch manager was at times just painful to watch, but not in a bad way. Where Carrel plays him as a lovable loser idiot, Garvis played him as an unaproachable, full of himself, ignorant dolt with few redeeming qualities.
I watched the UK series just reeling at the branch managers ineptitude. Garvis' performance put me in mind of Andy Kaufman's practical joke on the audience style of comedy.
Garvis' new sereis an idiot abroad is full of the same, "I can't believe this" type of comedy.
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"Gervais", not "Garvis".
I stand corrected.
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"Grandma PUT my hand there"
I believe I found a picture of her grandma (its totally safe for work btw)
http://wedinator.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/30/funny-wedding-photos-keg-stand-grandma-best-wedding-ever/
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Yup, I'm fan of britcom, i know.. :roll:
Can I have Four candles? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPyVZsfOzs)
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As another comment on that... I live in the US, and the word flat to mean apartment IS used here. Seriously, that was a pretty petty post (jwhouk's, not Akima's).
I already let it go.
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Back on topic. It'd be funny if they DID drag him with, and Mom DID end up being there. And Cosette - who hasn't MET mom yet - got into some weird re-enactment of said photo at said sister's bachelorette party...
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Yup, I'm fan of britcom, i know.. :roll:
Can I have Four candles? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPyVZsfOzs)
I haven't seen The Two Ronnies in over 20 years - thank you! I now have more ammunition for wasting time!
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Back on topic. It'd be funny if they DID drag him with, and Mom DID end up being there. And Cosette - who hasn't MET mom yet - got into some weird re-enactment of said photo at said sister's bachelorette party...
Would Cosette even be interested in going to a guys strip club, with naked girls on stage? Dora I can see going in heartbeat, not so sure about Cosette. Pretty sure Steve intended it to be a guys-only outing.
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That would just add to the hilarity.
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Can I have Four candles? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPyVZsfOzs)
Hehe, that was quite funny. :-D How about a discussion about philosophy? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY)
As for the comic. Damn, Steve :-D Kinda crass, but have to admit, funny (especially when thinking our unfortunate protagonist in mentioned enviroment :-o ,considering his current streak of luck). And, touche for the lil jab at some doublestandards. :-D
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Steve is a real prince... As for the "women enjoy strippers as much as men, so it's OK" argument, it would be fascinating to compare the relative numbers of men and women employed in the profession. If, as I suspect, stripping is disproportionally a female occupation, it probably means that perving at strippers is mainly a male activity. And I wonder what percentage of the strip-clubs are owned by women?
Would Cosette even be interested in going to a guys strip club, with naked girls on stage? Dora I can see going in heartbeat, not so sure about Cosette. Pretty sure Steve intended it to be a guys-only outing.
Yeah. This is what is really wrong with Steve's behaviour here. Organising a exclusive "bros night out" in front of his girlfriend is pretty crass. But Steve's crassness is part of the funny, so... :-D
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Can I have Four candles? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPyVZsfOzs)
Hehe, that was quite funny. :-D How about a discussion about philosophy? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY)
But my Blackberry is frozen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI)
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Purely Observation: Jeff already got tuckered out drawing the Bakery last week......does he REALLY want to draw a Strip Club now?
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Would Cosette even be interested in going to a guys strip club, with naked girls on stage? Dora I can see going in heartbeat, not so sure about Cosette. Pretty sure Steve intended it to be a guys-only outing.
Yeah. This is what is really wrong with Steve's behaviour here. Organising a exclusive "bros night out" in front of his girlfriend is pretty crass. But Steve's crassness is part of the funny, so... :-D
Well, if it weren't for Steve's crassness, he'd never have had those pics of himself done, which are what attracted Cosette's attention in the first place, and bore a striking resemblance to a male stripper's promo shots (alright, he was wearing pants, but still...)
One could argue that his crassness is what attracted Cosette in the first place.
Doesn't excuse it, of course, but it may explain why they're still together...
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Jeff ...
C'mon - it's not that hard to spell his name right; you only know what it is because you've seen it, after all.
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This related to nothing I know, still; how many avatars have you gone through today? :psyduck:
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My avatar is defined as an image on my server. When that image is requested, a random selection from a pool of images is returned. There are, as it stands today, 27 images in that pool.
So each time you cause a refresh, my avatar will change; and if you make a comment relating to it, most other people will be puzzled because they have a different one showing.
It amuses me...
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My avatar is defined as an image on my server. When that image is requested, a random selection from a pool of images is returned. There are, as it stands today, 27 images in that pool.
So each time you cause a refresh, my avatar will change; and if you make a comment relating to it, most other people will be puzzled because they have a different one showing.
It amuses me...
It's really just you regenerating, isn't it?
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Even Doctor Who doesn't do it that frequently...
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Yes it does.
(Waiting for someone to get the Monty Python reference...)
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That's because no one expects...
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I have to agree with Steve in the strip, and not for the feminazi reasons that Cosette imagines, but because it reminds one that there are other women out there who can get you interested. It can also help to painlessly put emotional distance between oneself and one's ex (assuming visiting titty bars wasn't something you and she did together).
As for Cosette, I think it would be funny for her to talk to any of the strippers I've known. She'd get a very different take on who's being "degraded" and "objectified" at a titty bar. If I could make several hundred bucks by taking off my pants in front of women, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Hell, if I could make that much money by taking my pants off in front of other men I would.
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Steve is a real prince... As for the "women enjoy strippers as much as men, so it's OK" argument, it would be fascinating to compare the relative numbers of men and women employed in the profession. If, as I suspect, stripping is disproportionally a female occupation, it probably means that perving at strippers is mainly a male activity. And I wonder what percentage of the strip-clubs are owned by women?
You would be wrong here, as there is often a lot of overlap (the only exception to this is in the South, where strip clubs with male strippers aren't exactly advertised) with the larger clubs having sections that cater to both women and men.
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Maybe in a really metropolitan area, but nowhere I've ever lived. And no, I'm not in the south, nor in a rural area - small cities and university towns, mainly. Chipplendales come through every once in a while at some of them, and they advertise a ladies' night, but no permanent catering to the distaff population.
And clearly, I've shown wayyy too much knowledge on the subject for your average family man...
:angel:
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You would be wrong here, as there is often a lot of overlap (the only exception to this is in the South, where strip clubs with male strippers aren't exactly advertised) with the larger clubs having sections that cater to both women and men.
Wrong about what? The disproportionate employment? So there are as many male strippers in the USA as female ones? I find that surprising, I must admit...
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(the original idea of Hill/Pythons/Blackadder was almost perfect, if Benny hill would be changed to Fawlty/Office, that would be massive overdose if brilliant comed, IMHO)
Yup, I'm fan of britcom, i know.. :roll:
Why am I not surprised to see Blackadder on your list? :-)
I never got much out of Hill/Python. My BritCom laughs are induced by Wooster&Jeeves and Yes, (prime) minister. Mr Bean is somewhere in between. It's probably just me...
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Jeff ...
C'mon - it's not that hard to spell his name right; you only know what it is because you've seen it, after all.
I' allowd too bake a misstake.
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So I'm being gentle. Remember, names are special - we try harder to avoid mistakes with names.
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I have to agree with Steve in the strip,
So you think Marten should go to a strip club...
a very different take on who's being "degraded" and "objectified" at a titty bar.
...to be degraded and objectified?
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I think I can safely say that this is the sweetest version of creepy that Pintsize has ever come up with.
It's nice to know he cares, I guess...
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It's a step above the fleshlight thing. But a very small step.
Did we ever clarify whose fleshlight that was?
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[celine]All by my- seeeeellllllffffff
Don't want to be
Alll by my- seellfff, any more...[/celine]*
Poor Marty.
*God is that song awful!
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If only there were some way to express robot + human spooning on a T-shirt. I'd buy it.
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That's because no one expects...
My favorite shirt! (http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/c1d8/)
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I've never understood why many women get so upset about strip clubs. [...]
Oh hello Steve ! I didnt knew you are for real ! I always thought Jeph had invented you.
Is Hanners for real, too ?
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pintsize being only being sortof creepy but mostly cute, never thought we'd see the day :psyduck:
this whole britcom discussion reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3SqVrFB3Cc
basicly the brit from the daily show doing copyright notice 'light'
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I've never understood why many women get so upset about strip clubs. [...]
Oh hello Steve ! I didnt knew you are for real ! I always thought Jeph had invented you.
Is Hanners for real, too ?
Thanks for ignoring the rest of my post; you know, the part that clarifies the prior statement.
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Pintsize, you...this is starting to look like you have a romantic interest in your owner
:psyduck: it is creeping me out
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Pintsize just wants fucked. He tried to be Faye's rebound fuck after she and Sven fell through.
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Remember that Pintsize has declared that when the singularity comes, he will become porn. He's just making the best of it meantime.
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I was wondering if this was a Pintsize interpretation of one of the three laws.
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Thanks for ignoring the rest of my post; you know, the part that clarifies the prior statement.
I have no comment to the rest of your posting, as I never contemplated entering a strip club myself, and find the very idea very disgusting.
If we even have such a thing here in europe, I dont know.
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pintsize being only being sortof creepy but mostly cute, never thought we'd see the day :psyduck:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=430
I was wondering if this was a Pintsize interpretation of one of the three laws.
Pintsize violates the second law on a regular basis.
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You would be wrong here, as there is often a lot of overlap (the only exception to this is in the South, where strip clubs with male strippers aren't exactly advertised) with the larger clubs having sections that cater to both women and men.
Wrong about what? The disproportionate employment? So there are as many male strippers in the USA as female ones? I find that surprising, I must admit...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_stripper
There are enough of both scattered throughout various clubs/pubs/theaters around the country for it to be considered common/easy to find either one.
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Just in case, sound it out.
Long-tym-no-si.
:laugh:
All for pulling legs :-) I do confess having been temporarily confused by the fact that "your tym doesn't rym with gym." Nevertheless, it was clear that some kind of a play on words was going on. Me the furriner starts deciphering by using spelling as the starting point, and it was a bit harder that way. It's a cross I have to bare with my bear hands.
I have no comment to the rest of your posting, as I never contemplated entering a strip club myself, and find the very idea very disgusting.
My recollection is that in Germany you don't need to go to a strip club. A few years back you had a weekly game show on network TV, where the contestants where more or less required to strip in order to win, didn't you? May be it was before your time ? :roll: and I'm not telling why I know this bit of trivia.
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d'awww.......
I mean I guess it's a little creepy but still d'awwwww :lol:
Jeph should draw a picture of Marten being the outside spoon.
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My recollection is that in Germany you don't need to go to a strip club. A few years back you had a weekly game show on network TV, where the contestants where more or less required to strip in order to win, didn't you? May be it was before your time ? :roll: and I'm not telling why I know this bit of trivia.
I never owned a TV. And arent plan to ever own one.
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I mean I guess it's a little creepy but still d'awwwww :lol:
I think your definition of "a little creepy" and mine are slightly different.
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My recollection is that in Germany you don't need to go to a strip club. A few years back you had a weekly game show on network TV, where the contestants where more or less required to strip in order to win, didn't you? May be it was before your time ? :roll: and I'm not telling why I know this bit of trivia.
I never owned a TV. And arent plan to ever own one.
wait...what? *sends extraterrestial hunters after snubnose*
you missed the delight of watching our society turn into talent show mad morons.....okay nvm those hunters, you have a point
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_stripper
There are enough of both scattered throughout various clubs/pubs/theaters around the country for it to be considered common/easy to find either one.
This is the kind of Wikipedia article that gives the project a bad name - full of vague generalizations, and a big banner across the top that says it needs verification!
It's no more than someone's opinion, as are all your other statements on the topic. If you're going to use it as proof, you may as well torpedo your own argument!
There really is a gender division here, not to mention the regional differences, and saying it isn't so doesn't make it the way you say!
I now await your predictably abrasive rebuttal.
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I mean I guess it's a little creepy but still d'awwwww :lol:
I think your definition of "a little creepy" and mine are slightly different.
I think we're all just secretly jealous we don't have a little robot to cuddle with at night.
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No, I prefer snuggling with my wife, thank you very much.
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If we even have such a thing here in europe, I dont know.
And they don't need them in the Netherlands, because they have plenty of brothels? :?
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If we even have such a thing here in europe, I dont know.
Obviously you've never been to a Cabaret in Munchen, have you?
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Oh Pintsize, you creepy little robotic bastard. :roll:
And about the strip clubs. Are people made because they exist? Because people go to them? Or do they feel that the girls (or guys) are exploited? Because, frankly, the tone I'm getting from some of the posts is that people are mad at the girls (or guys) who choose to strip.
I was curious about a point last night, and I rang up a friend of mine from college, who worked as a bouncer at various clubs, one of which was a stripclub. I asked her how much a stripper would make on an average night. It depends on the time of day, the quality of the club itself and the clientele, usually, during the day, the girls would have made about €300-€400 in tips, with that raising to about €1000 during the night, on top of their wages. Just to put that into perspective, this was 7 years ago, when we were students and the cost of renting a flat with three other guys would have cost us €400 a week.
She also told me that strip clubs keep a very close eye on the punters, ensuring that the performers are safe and that anyone who causes any bother is immediately ejected from the club. In the three years she worked as a bouncer, she had only ever once had to ask a guy to leave, and he did without any fuss. The real hassle came from ladies nights when they had male strippers in, more that once some of the women had to be literally carried out by the staff because they were clawing at the men. My friend had to quit when during one hen night one of the clients tried to molest the stripper, she got violent and ended up giving my friend a two inch scar to the neck when she dug her fingers into the skin. She had to be taken to the hospital for 19 stitches.
My point is, forget your preconceptions, it’s useless to just pass judgement on something which you haven’t experienced, I’ve never been to a strip club myself, so I can’t judge anyone for either working at one, or for visiting one. A previous post said that the girls enjoyed the thrill of stripping, that they felt in control, the freedom. That’s why they choose the profession and great for them.
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I think there's a complicated issue surrounding exploitation and the commodification of sex/sexuality/beauty and whether the two can every be divorced in a transactional context.
I think that you should be able to but am at a loss to explain coherently how that would be acheived.
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Ah pintsize, he means well...which makes it all the creepier in some ways.
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Can't think of a poll for today, so I'm leaving yesterday's one up.
In addition to hanging my head in shame. :psyduck:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_stripper
There are enough of both scattered throughout various clubs/pubs/theaters around the country for it to be considered common/easy to find either one.
This is the kind of Wikipedia article that gives the project a bad name - full of vague generalizations, and a big banner across the top that says it needs verification!
It's no more than someone's opinion, as are all your other statements on the topic. If you're going to use it as proof, you may as well torpedo your own argument!
There really is a gender division here, not to mention the regional differences, and saying it isn't so doesn't make it the way you say!
I now await your predictably abrasive rebuttal.
I used Wikipedia only because every single other link that came up through a Google search went to strip club forums which are, as I'm sure you're aware, hilariously NWS and I'm not linking to them here. Wikipedia is pretty much all that is left.
As for abrasiveness here you go: You are hilariously out of touch with the types of clubs in pretty much any urban area in the country if you think there are not equal amounts of both male and female strippers to cater to both women and men, respectively. Stop being a moron.
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Can't think of a poll for today, so I'm leaving yesterday's one up.
In addition to hanging my head in shame. :psyduck:
something about strippers, spooning, pintsize being creepy
cmon its not that hard :P
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Can't think of a poll for today, so I'm leaving yesterday's one up.
In addition to hanging my head in shame. :psyduck:
something about strippers, spooning, pintsize being creepy
cmon its not that hard :P
Are you sure about that? (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/WdOdin/Smilies/emot-quagmire.gif)
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Can't think of a poll for today, so I'm leaving yesterday's one up.
In addition to hanging my head in shame. :psyduck:
something about strippers, spooning, pintsize being creepy
cmon its not that hard :P
Are you sure about that? (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/WdOdin/Smilies/emot-quagmire.gif)
giggity giggity giggity? (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/WdOdin/Smilies/emot-quagmire.gif)
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I used Wikipedia only because every single other link that came up through a Google search went to strip club forums which are, as I'm sure you're aware, hilariously NWS and I'm not linking to them here. Wikipedia is pretty much all that is left.
Understood, but it doesn't make it true!
...with the types of clubs in pretty much any urban area in the country if you think there are not equal amounts of both male and female strippers to cater to both women and men, respectively.
I actually live in a mid sized urban area, slightly under 200K. There are 7 strip clubs in town, and not one is ladies only. Only one has a monthly "ladies' night". I don't think I'm the one who's "out of touch"...
Stop being a moron.
Nice to know I can count on you!
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Clearly there is something wrong with the area you live in, then, because they're readily located where I live (rural West Georgia). I figure if a backwoods place like Georgia has them scattered around where women have no trouble finding them, pretty much everywhere in the country has them as well (you just don't know about them because you don't look for them).
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Stop being a moron.
pot kettle.
Both stripping and sex work are overwhelmingly aimed at a male audience. Women's bodies are typically treated as commodities, not those of men. Women are valued for their beauty, not men.
Hope that helps.
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Well, at least we know he's been repaired since last time.
Cump.
Ya gotta give Pintsize 9/10 for trying - with one point off for the creepiness.
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Pintsize cares.
(moderator)There is still a civility rule(/moderator).
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Glad to know that Pintsize is ok. I was worried about him there for a bit. Cump indeed.
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I am kinda suprised that Marty didn't just run when he discovered he was in bed with Pintsize.
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I am kinda suprised that Marty didn't just run when he discovered he was in bed with Pintsize.
You'd think that chassis would be really cold, too.
pot kettle.
Both stripping and sex work are overwhelmingly aimed at a male audience. Women's bodies are typically treated as commodities, not those of men. Women are valued for their beauty, not men.
Hope that helps.
Have you people have never heard of the ridiculously popular Chippendales? Or, you know, pretty much every bachelorette party ever and how easy it is to hire a male stripper for them? How is life in the 1950s?
This dumb idea that today's sex industry is entirely based on the objectification and abuse of women is hilariously outdated, not to mention wrong (I'll leave the correcting of this myth to you ever taking any of the human sexuality courses offered at any accredited college, or reading any given book on the subject like this short PDF report on the subject (http://www.peers.bc.ca/images/DispMythsshort.pdf)).
There are countless other books on the subject, both by former strippers/sex workers of both genders and multiple college professors (run a search on Amazon.com).
EDIT: I swear, something this obvious shouldn't have to be spelled out so clearly, it's almost like another forum I go to where people are seriously arguing that Sherman's army raped a million women during it's march to the sea. Completely false and based entirely on "traditional belief" information.
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Marten needs a stuffed animal.
Pintsize is probably warm from the heat of all his electronics.
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words words words
So, you're saying the sex industry is aimed at women just as much as men? Sounds silly.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_stripper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_stripper)
So there's an article on male strippers. However, the much bigger articles on strippers in general have only minimal reference to male strippers, suggesting that they are a modest minority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripper)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_strippers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_strippers)
In any case, Steve's suggestion in the comic was clearly for female strippers, so this is all rather beside the point here.
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What a depressing note to end the week on. I really didn't need to remember how much it sucks to learn how to sleep alone again.
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I mean I guess it's a little creepy but still d'awwwww :lol:
I think your definition of "a little creepy" and mine are slightly different.
I think we're all just secretly jealous we don't have a little robot to cuddle with at night.
For those of us who do not have that kind of budget, there is always using something made of vinyl. :evil:
I think I need some bleach now. :-o
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Wow, I'm not even touching the stripper argument (touching is against the rules anyway :wink: ), but some of you guys are seriously uptight about the Pintsize spooning! Is it semi-creepy? Sure -- it's Pintsize, after all. But it's also cute and kinda funny. He's helping! Ineffectually, as usual, but his intentions seem non-malicious. So what are you worried about? Pintsize is a tiny sentient robot with no genitalia -- not even eels! And he seems to genuinely want Marty to cheer up.
As a follow-up thought, despite feeling sad for Marten, Pintsize might actually be relieved somewhat by the breakup since it means that Mieville is no longer there to terrorize him.
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Ya gotta give Pintsize 9/10 for trying - with one point off for the creepiness.
You have to wonder what actually inspired him to even do that in the first place. Yes, he's a walking porn dump, yes he has access to stuff even Rule /34/ cannot begin to fathom........
....or Marigold managed to change his algorithms abit to be not as freaky. Or the throw by Faye did it.
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Aw c'mon guys I know he's a perv but Marten is his owner, is it so hard to believe he actually cares about him? Being full of porn, this is just the only way he knows how to show it. I still think it's kinda sweet, havin a little robot all cuddlin' on you.
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but some of you guys are seriously uptight about the Pintsize spooning! Is it semi-creepy? Sure -- it's Pintsize, after all. But it's also cute and kinda funny. He's helping! Ineffectually, as usual, but his intentions seem non-malicious. So what are you worried about? Pintsize is a tiny sentient robot with no genitalia -- not even eels! And he seems to genuinely want Marty to cheer up.
Oh, no, not creepy at all. I've totally spooned my bros who were having trouble with the ladies.
I mean, they didn't admit that it cheered them up, but I could tell by the uncomfortable squirming that it was appreciated.
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Whoa. TMI. But really funny....
I did say earlier that it was "the sweetest version of creepy that Pintsize has ever come up with." It is sweet that he cares, but the fact that he thinks it's comforting is also a little creepy.
I think that covers it, really.
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Can't think of a poll for today, so I'm leaving yesterday's one up.
In addition to hanging my head in shame. :psyduck:
PSST: End of week. That means "Moment of the Week".
- IF YOU LOVE THIS PLACE SO MUCH, WHY DON'T YOU JUST MARRY IT
- THIS PLACE IS A BUTT AND YOU ARE ALSO A BUTT
- "I'd be sad. And Faye would beat you up."
- Growing wings or Infrared vision over vague sense of unease
- The Faye Punch of Friendship returns!
- "I can't just lie around feeling sorry for myself all the time."
- Ice cream fatness and shameful blog posts
- "There are things lurking in my saved draft posts that would make a heartbroken 14 year old go 'oh come on, that's a bit much.'"
- Dude. Strip club. Tonight.
- Degradation and objectification of women.
- I was drunk! And grandma PUT my hand there!
- Your grandma ####ing ROCKS.
- Get used to sleeping alone again.
- Would you rather be the outside spoon?
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Aw c'mon guys I know he's a perv but Marten is his owner, is it so hard to believe he actually cares about him? Being full of porn, this is just the only way he knows how to show it. I still think it's kinda sweet, havin a little robot all cuddlin' on you.
He's always cared. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1)
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For the record, I've been to a strip club once (it was a friend's bachelor party... the ironic thing is, it was suggested by his fiancée, who drive us there and sat there with us), and those girls can be really pushy. I told them I wasn't interested in a lap dance, and they kept insisting. Now, I understand that this is how they make their money and all, but they just wouldn't take no for an answer...
Oh, and this is a very small sample, but this report (http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol10is1/bernard.pdf) mentions trying to do a survey of male and female strippers, and out of 33 clubs they attempted to survey in suburban Virginia (page 4-5), 12 refused, 18 agreed, and 3 of them they did not manage to get any of the dancers to voluntarily answer the survey. Out of those that did (56 people), 16 were male, and 40 were female. This is supposedly in line with the US national exotic dancing population (this pdf cites Forsyth, 1992).
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I can't imagine that Pintsize would be very comfortable to have in bed. I mean, he's basically an oddly-shaped metal box. It'd be like sleeping with a filing cabinet.
I swear, something this obvious shouldn't have to be spelled out so clearly, it's almost like another forum I go to where people are seriously arguing that Sherman's army raped a million women during it's march to the sea. Completely false and based entirely on "traditional belief" information.
So what is the correct number, exactly? A million sounds a large and suspiciously round number, implying that, on average, each man in Sherman's army committed about sixteen rapes over the five weeks of the campaign, but did anybody actually keep any records? Rape has been a traditional perk of the soldier's trade since at least the fall of Troy, and remains common to this day (http://www.economist.com/node/17900482?story_id=17900482), but the numbers, even in recent conflicts, are never more than estimates. Generally, the crimes go unrecorded, the perpetrators go free, and the victims go unavenged. No number greater than zero is small enough to be OK.
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His appendages probably have a silicone outer layer for grip. Not that thatwould feel much better.
Still, the case is probably metal - we know the head is, or Marigold wouldn't have been able to pull out the dents...
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So what is the correct number, exactly? A million sounds a large and suspiciously round number, implying that, on average, each man in Sherman's army committed about sixteen rapes over the five weeks of the campaign, but did anybody actually keep any records? Rape has been a traditional perk of the soldier's trade since at least the fall of Troy, and remains common to this day (http://www.economist.com/node/17900482?story_id=17900482), but the numbers, even in recent conflicts, are never more than estimates. Generally, the crimes go unrecorded, the perpetrators go free, and the victims go unavenged. No number greater than zero is small enough to be OK.
You've got a couple options, read this: http://flattopshistorywarpolitics.yuku.com/topic/457 for a more brief look at things and look for the answer or download the audio files found here (http://oyc.yale.edu/history/civil-war-and-reconstruction/content/downloads) and refresh your memory.
You're missing the point by focusing on the numbers or even the accusation, the topic over there was that The South's racism was (and is) perfectly okay because Sherman did nasty things to win the war, a thoroughly idiotic position to take. Much like the one that makes negative judgments about women that are strippers or even the very existence of strip clubs that cater to straight men while completely ignoring the very common strip clubs that cater to straight women, gay women and gay men. The actual numbers don't matter in the least once you put them in context of local population demographics (you'll find that there are exactly as many strip clubs catering to a specific group of people as the local population will support, expecting exact even numbers of male and female strippers is stupid and I don't know why I wasted time trying to argue that point).
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I mean I guess it's a little creepy but still d'awwwww :lol:
I think your definition of "a little creepy" and mine are slightly different.
I think we're all just secretly jealous we don't have a little robot to cuddle with at night.
For those of us who do not have that kind of budget, there is always using something made of vinyl. :evil:
I think I need some bleach now. :-o
Care to explain how to apply bleach to ones imagination ?
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It's called brain-washing.
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Much like the one that makes negative judgments about women that are strippers or even the very existence of strip clubs that cater to straight men while completely ignoring the very common strip clubs that cater to straight women, gay women and gay men. The actual numbers don't matter in the least once you put them in context of local population demographics (you'll find that there are exactly as many strip clubs catering to a specific group of people as the local population will support, expecting exact even numbers of male and female strippers is stupid and I don't know why I wasted time trying to argue that point).
Except that the argument (at least originally) wasn't really about the strippers; it was about the people going to see the strippers. In other words, the negative comments were (mostly) not directed at the strippers at all, but at the people that would attend such events. You then brought up the proportionality of strippers and we digressed from there.
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You're missing the point by focusing on the numbers or even the accusation, the topic over there was that The South's racism was (and is) perfectly okay because Sherman did nasty things to win the war, a thoroughly idiotic position to take.
The only information you provided was the number, the accusation, and a statement that the accusation was false. It is not surprising I missed a point that you did not make, at least in this forum. :-)
The actual numbers don't matter in the least once you put them in context of local population demographics (you'll find that there are exactly as many strip clubs catering to a specific group of people as the local population will support, expecting exact even numbers of male and female strippers is stupid and I don't know why I wasted time trying to argue that point).
Numbers always matter, especially in the context of local demographics. I would not expect equal numbers of male and female strippers. That was the point I made in my original post on this topic (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25974.msg1006467.html#msg1006467). I would expect a higher proportion of women, and a lower proportion of men, in the stripper population than in the population generally. If that is so, the explanation presumably would be, as you say, the support from the local population. Or to put it another way, in the relative demand for female or male performers in the market to which their industry caters.
You then brought up the proportionality of strippers and we digressed from there.
In fairness to Odin, it was I who brought up the proportion thing, in reference to my guess that, notwithstanding the existence of male strippers, the stripping "industry" primarily caters to men. That doesn't necessarily make it bad, but unless the club Steve was proposing has a "ladies department" running concurrently, it is possible that Cosette might feel a bit left out while Steve and Marten had a bro's night.
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Marten needs a stuffed animal.
Pintsize is probably warm from the heat of all his electronics.
He needs a Bamboo wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikufujin) Or a Dakimakura. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakimakura)
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You then brought up the proportionality of strippers and we digressed from there.
In fairness to Odin, it was I who brought up the proportion thing, in reference to my guess that, notwithstanding the existence of male strippers, the stripping "industry" primarily caters to men. That doesn't necessarily make it bad, but unless the club Steve was proposing has a "ladies department" running concurrently, it is possible that Cosette might feel a bit left out while Steve and Marten had a bro's night.
Oh, my apologies, then. And the more I re-read it, the more Cosette's response seems kind of "canned" to me, as if she's just repeating a line. And you'd think that since they've been together a while, Cosette really should know what Steve is like by now...
Oh, and I kind of miss Cosette's poofy hair. I'm not sure why...
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jwhouk, is there going to be a poll for the moment of the week?
Anyway, my vote goes to "Your grandma fuckin' rules."
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Having just performed a full archive binge, from beginning to most recent, I have to say this: The webcomic thus far has been like reading a (sometimes creepy) very good book, with Jeph being fully capable of writing his characters in such a way that it's easy to empathize with them, and it was quite depressing to catch up to the story's "present" at such a low point in our protagonist's life. Just about anybody in the same age-group as the heroes should know exactly how Marten feels.
I wish I'd had an AnthroPC like Pintsize around when my wife left. He may not know how to show it without being creepy, but the little guy obviously cares. 1850 made me grin.
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jwhouk, is there going to be a poll for the moment of the week?
Anyway, my vote goes to "Your grandma fuckin' rules."
Done. See separate thread.
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No, I prefer snuggling with my wife, thank you very much.
So do I.
Wait, that didn't come out quite how I intended...
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jwhouk, is there going to be a poll for the moment of the week?
Anyway, my vote goes to "Your grandma fuckin' rules."
Done. See separate thread.
Thank you! The poll option says "ROCKS" even though I think it was "rules" but I am in too good a mood to care.
Edit: you fixed it! Disregard my pedantics.