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Title: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 17 Nov 2013, 10:35
*Yawns*

Heeeres ya Poll.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Nov 2013, 10:40
Prediction: Dora and Tai fight, Dale tells them to chill. Hannelore blushes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 17 Nov 2013, 11:18
How about more Dale and Marigold cuteness?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 17 Nov 2013, 11:36
That wasn't cute, that was awkward and embarrassing. Maybe it was a cute sort of awkward but still more embarrassing than anything else.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Nov 2013, 12:48
I thought it was cute.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 17 Nov 2013, 12:51
 (http://i.imgur.com/uokqFGr.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 17 Nov 2013, 13:45
Dora gets jealous, Tai expresses her true feelings and pledges herself just to Dora...Pintsize is still humping the coffee machine with Dale learning a few things from him about sex that he never wanted to know....Faye is drunk with power and terrorizes Hanners and the rest but giving Dale a break for the earlier gaffe  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 17 Nov 2013, 14:08
Well. Guess what I had to vote for. Hint: Look to the left.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 17 Nov 2013, 14:12
I guess that either we get to see the fallout from Allie-Smirk, or we shall learn how Angus' audition went.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 17 Nov 2013, 14:38
both

Do the colours look funny in that pic?

Well. Guess what I had to vote for. Hint: Look to the left.

My curtains?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Nov 2013, 14:46
From this I conclude you are likely not left-handed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 17 Nov 2013, 14:47
I meant the real curtains, gutter-mind. :P

Incidentally, I am left handed in all things but mouse-use and a two-handed grip (like a cricket bat or golf club).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Nov 2013, 14:52
I am confused. I really meant curtains. The only gutter-mind meaning for curtains I can come up with is, I believe, not applicable to you.

(click to show/hide)

...and post your edit, I was wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 17 Nov 2013, 15:04
isn't it about time for snow in-comic? it's been summer-ish since last december i think
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Nov 2013, 15:10
Longer than that - since before the beach party, which was October/November 2012, I believe. Just think of it as Northampton's endless summer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Nov 2013, 18:14
I'm not quite sure what to make of this:

The Yelling Bird... Whiteboard (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-YELLINGBOARD&Category_Code=QC)?? ?? ??
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Nov 2013, 18:34
Every other word must be some type of curse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Nov 2013, 19:40
Damn, nicely done, Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 17 Nov 2013, 19:41
Damn, nicely done, Tai.

Drama-bomb defused?    Looks that way...  If so Tai may just be the smartest one of them all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Nov 2013, 19:48
Doubtful. Crazy gonna crazy and Dora still doesn't have her issues sorted ya know?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 17 Nov 2013, 19:57
Is Tai really that stupid? This is just going to come back and bite her.

Dora is just like my ex: broke up previous relationship because she has too many issues, which she should solve BEFORE jumping into another relationship straight away. She didn't take the time to fix her problems. Poor Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 17 Nov 2013, 20:10
Doubtful. Crazy gonna crazy and Dora still doesn't have her issues sorted ya know?

Maybe she hasn't sorted them out, but Tai found one way of getting around them. She diffused the situation, redirected the frustration to embarrassment, and left her wanting to know more
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 17 Nov 2013, 20:23
Is Tai really that stupid? This is just going to come back and bite her.

I don't see what you mean. Sure it was a bit crude (alright, more than a bit, since Dora is currently doing a pretty credible impersonation of a beetroot), but she deterred Dora's insecurities quite well.

I dunno. I guess the next time they run into each other will see what's going on...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 17 Nov 2013, 20:25
Dora was right, when Tai brings her A-game, she's doomed!

Global Moderator Comment
Oh, and Internet memes or image macros? Passé. There is nothing exciting or new about any of them, and they just make people sigh when they see them.
That one was also unacceptable in itself, which is why I've removed it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Nov 2013, 20:28
Doubtful. Crazy gonna crazy and Dora still doesn't have her issues sorted ya know?

Maybe she hasn't sorted them out, but Tai found one way of getting around them. She diffused the situation, redirected the frustration to embarrassment, and left her wanting to know more

Delaying and dodging can only hold out so long. I think it's more that Tai doesn't realize what's going on on Dora's end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 17 Nov 2013, 20:36
Is Tai really that stupid? This is just going to come back and bite her.

I don't see what you mean. Sure it was a bit crude (alright, more than a bit, since Dora is currently doing a pretty credible impersonation of a beetroot), but she deterred Dora's insecurities quite well.

Let's face it, Dora should not be in a relationship until AFTER some serious therapy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 17 Nov 2013, 20:47
She was already in therapy at one point, wasn't she? Dunno if she still is, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 17 Nov 2013, 20:49
I can see where you're both coming from, greywolfe and GarandMarine. Ducking and dodging a problem will only go so far. If Dora really has matured since therapy (actually, when was the last time she'd had a session?), she'd address this with Tai ASAP.

Not to say her insecurities will just magically disappear, but at least she might be better equipped to deal with them on her next encounter with Allie (whenever that may be).

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may want to talk to someone about that.

You make a valid argument, greywolfe. Dora needs to talk about this pretty seriously and soon. One therapy session does not equal a healthy mind (I know that one quite well...). But your original post called Tai stupid, and I was just wondering why you would suggest so, besides the obvious "being infatuated with someone does leave you feeling stupid" kind of way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 17 Nov 2013, 20:58
Delaying and dodging can only hold out so long. I think it's more that Tai doesn't realize what's going on on Dora's end.

She knows all about it, she is Marten's friend and boss after all. He was leaning on her for a bit after Dora's breakup with him.

She could be right about her skills as well, Dora may not have the experience that Tai has and she could be in for the ride of her life!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Nov 2013, 21:05
We don't know that Dora hasn't been attending regular sessions.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 17 Nov 2013, 21:07
Lets throw out there, that similar situations with Marten resulted in full-blown fights.

This has not.

Progress?

We'll know on Cliffhanger Day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 17 Nov 2013, 21:09
We don't know that Dora hasn't been attending regular sessions.

When was the last time she mentioned therapy at all?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: JohnTheWysard on 17 Nov 2013, 21:19
I dunno. I think Tai may well have heard (from Marten, or Dora herself, or both) about Dora's issues; and that she's smart enough, and experienced enough, to be able to cope with them and help Dora into the bargain.

I hope so, anyway!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 17 Nov 2013, 21:24
Tai, smart and experienced enough to help Dora? The same Tai who had basically never had a relationship before (as opposed to lots of fuckbuddies)? I think not.

Dora has trust issues. Tai, on the other hand, has never even been a relationship that required trust! Do you really think she's going to just 'understand'?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 17 Nov 2013, 21:25
Lets throw out there, that similar situations with Marten resulted in full-blown fights.

This has not.

Progress?


Wait until the first screaming argument. Then we'll know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 17 Nov 2013, 21:48
Woah. Harsh words Dora. CHILL OUT.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: CrowFairy on 17 Nov 2013, 22:47
Is anyone else thrown off by the comment about the bedroom? I know they'd been cuddling and whatnot, but I didn't think they'd gone very far. Can anyone with good archive-fu tell me where I've gone astray?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Nov 2013, 22:57
I believe this is the first indication that they've been doing sexy things with each other.

Tai has shown some psychological insight before. She may be deliberately giving Dora just what she needs. Or maybe Tai is just obsessed with sex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 17 Nov 2013, 23:14
Doomed?
Yes. I think she may be. In a nice way. Which might help her solve some of her issues.
Meanwhile Tai is looking ... smug. And loving.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Nov 2013, 23:19
We don't know that Dora hasn't been attending regular sessions.

When was the last time she mentioned therapy at all?
Why would she mention it? Or maybe she's mentioned it "off-camera".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 17 Nov 2013, 23:21
Is anyone else thrown off by the comment about the bedroom? I know they'd been cuddling and whatnot, but I didn't think they'd gone very far. Can anyone with good archive-fu tell me where I've gone astray?

What made you think they had not gone very far? Until now, we just did not know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Nov 2013, 23:24
Because they've talked of taking things slow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Fenriswolf on 17 Nov 2013, 23:25
I assumed they'd had sex what with Dora being keen many strips ago + snuggling in bed + we're officially in a relationship. *shrug*

Re: insecurity, I don't understand why people are interpreting this as that. I would be pissed off if in that situation she smirked at me, then didn't even acknowledge me/say hi, and my issues are not remotely like Doras. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Nov 2013, 23:28
Dora has trust issues. Tai, on the other hand, has never even been a relationship that required trust! Do you really think she's going to just 'understand'?

A romantic relationship is not the only kind that requires trust. Tai may very well have been a confidant for her polyamorous circle or what have you. Noone said she cannot be a good friend, for example.

I believe this is the first indication that they've been doing sexy things with each other.
What he said. This is a bit surprising.

Warning - while you were typing some text the color of Dora's cheeks appeared. You may wish to review your post.

They always only looked cuddly and there was no indication they had done anything beyond that. For example, I was aware we didn't know, but if I had had to guess, I would have said they hadn't yet, because I expected Jeph to milk it for what it's worth create a long buildup with a big climax explicitly insert include it in the plot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 17 Nov 2013, 23:40
she has too many issues, which she should solve BEFORE jumping into another relationship straight away.

In my experience, issues don't all just get solved easily one by one. You untangle this one thing, and it slightly alleviates another thing, but which is still affected by this other tangled thing. You don't realise how much progress you made, in many subtle ways, until you look back months later. In my case, what I originally went to the therapist for turned out not to even be the problem I had. :psyduck:

So while we see Dora's usual hothead behaviour, I'm hoping if she's been going to her sessions, some of the underlying issues that make her hothead behvaiour  problematic have improved. For example, she didn't suppress the issue in an attempt not to seem crazy. For another example, she didn't freak out at Tai for trying to change the subject. And maybe in the upcoming comics we'll see that rather than dwelling on the smirk and overthinking it, she gets over it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 18 Nov 2013, 00:29
I would be pissed off if in that situation she smirked at me, then didn't even acknowledge me/say hi, and my issues are not remotely like Doras.
Yeah, Allie was pretty rude really, regardless of the smirk.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Nov 2013, 00:42
I am confused. I really meant curtains. The only gutter-mind meaning for curtains I can come up with is, I believe, not applicable to you.

(click to show/hide)

...and post your edit, I was wrong.

Ah. Sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Nov 2013, 01:20
We don't know that Dora hasn't been attending regular sessions.

When was the last time she mentioned therapy at all?
Why would she mention it? Or maybe she's mentioned it "off-camera".

Faye gets therapy, and as I recall Hanners as well.  It only gets mentioned when it is relevant or the strip depicts a session.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Nov 2013, 07:30
Come to think of it, we haven't seen Dr. Corrine since the blowup at Sven some thousand strips ago.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 18 Nov 2013, 08:21
I thought Tai did very well in distracting Dora from her anger. And this might be all she needs at this point. Yes, Allie was rude, but all we (and probably Dora as well) know now is that she's some acquaintance of Tai's, so her opinion on Tai's relationship is probably irrelevant to everyone involved - or should be. Dora might not ever see her again, so the sooner she stops fussing about this, the better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Nov 2013, 10:06
Tai is not, and should not have to be, Dora's therapist. What she did was carefully deflect something she probably recognised as a potential serious problem so that the conversation could be defused and continue without drama. It wasn't exactly the time or the place to have a deep in-depth conversation about Dora's insecurities, really.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 18 Nov 2013, 10:24
Yeah, that is more or less what I meant as well, but better worded!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 18 Nov 2013, 10:25
I think Tai is going to surprise us in regards to this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 18 Nov 2013, 10:53
Tai is not, and should not have to be, Dora's therapist.

No she is a friend, and a lover.  THIS IS WHAT FRIENDS DO. 

Difference between a true friend and a therapist is a true friend doesn't charge you.      At least that's what I've found over the years.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Nov 2013, 11:04
Friends are supportive and caring but they aren't required to sit down and talk out every single issue every time it comes up. A therapist's sole job is to help someone talk though the things which are problems for them, and be an uninvolved sounding board. Tai's role is much more complicated and she's got legitimate self-interest. And really, is it a bad thing that she's navigated the conversation into a place where Dora can feel confident in Tai's feelings for her, and where the mood is light and positive, instead of dwelling on negatives and possibly getting into an argument which would make Dora's issues worse?

I've been put in the position of trying to be a therapist for a friend who would, in other circumstances, have been a lover, and it destroyed our relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Fluffy Dragon on 18 Nov 2013, 11:10
If Dora were to still have the same crippling insecurities as she used to... then at this point, she wouldn't be angry with Allie, she would be taking her insecurities out on Tai... like she used to do with Marten.

edit for further thoughts:
My initial impression of Allie is not exactly positive.
I interpreted the smirk to mean: "I've seen Tai with a lot of fuckbuddies. she sleeps around. a lot. this wont last, but good luck."

and I think if Tai and Dora had started having sex, we'd have seen a dance or two.
they're sleeping together, probably making out too... (which explains the "you haven't been bringing your A-game already?")
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 18 Nov 2013, 11:13
Friends are supportive and caring but they aren't required to sit down and talk out every single issue every time it comes up. A therapist's sole job is to help someone talk though the things which are problems for them, and be an uninvolved sounding board. Tai's role is much more complicated and she's got legitimate self-interest. And really, is it a bad thing that she's navigated the conversation into a place where Dora can feel confident in Tai's feelings for her, and where the mood is light and positive, instead of dwelling on negatives and possibly getting into an argument which would make Dora's issues worse?

I've been put in the position of trying to be a therapist for a friend who would, in other circumstances, have been a lover, and it destroyed our relationship.

A good friend knows when to be your therapist and when to belt you upside the head and say "yo, you nuts bro."     Tai stepped up this time.   If this continues she may full well decide to put her foot down.   It's still too early to tell -- we got a couple of days before Das Cliffhanger.   ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 18 Nov 2013, 12:01
The obvious answer, of course, is that Tai's bedroom skills are going to purge Dora of her insecurities. Manually.


...okay, but being srs, someone brought up that if this situation happened with Dora & Marten, we'd probably be in a Fight Strip now, whereas with Tai this did not happen. I suspect this is more to do with the differences between Marten and Tai than with Dora's personal growth (though that is very likely also a factor): when Dora did her insecure thing with Marten, he tended to blow it off and/or get defensive about it in a "why can't you trust me" kind of way; Tai appears to lack this defensiveness, which means she isn't providing any fuel to Dora's fire and thus lead to a real fight. I don't know that I'd say this is because Tai's either a genius or an idiot, it's just who she is. Different values, different person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 18 Nov 2013, 13:05
Quote from: pwhodges
Quote from: Toe
Dora was right, when Tai brings her A-game, she's doomed!
<snip>

That one was also unacceptable in itself, which is why I've removed it.

Why was it unacceptable? Tai has made similar comments herself. (https://twitter.com/tai_fighter/status/5086915033) All considered, I'd be far more surprised if Tai is NOT into fisting, and at the very least it was a 'joke' fitting with the character and context of the current strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Nov 2013, 13:38
The way it was expressed was cruder than what I consider acceptable here; the presentation as an image macro emphasised this.  I've commented in the past that if the characters were on this forum they'd get moderated at times (Yelling Bird would be banned instantly, and Pintsize not long behind him), so the character twitters cannot be taken as a guide to the forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 18 Nov 2013, 15:38
Wait, so Allie knows something about Tai the rest of us don't?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Nov 2013, 15:38
In fact, at no time and in no situation should Yelling Bird or Pintsize ever be considered appropriate role models.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Nov 2013, 16:18
The obvious answer, of course, is that Tai's bedroom skills are going to purge Dora of her insecurities. Manually.


...okay, but being srs, someone brought up that if this situation happened with Dora & Marten, we'd probably be in a Fight Strip now, whereas with Tai this did not happen. I suspect this is more to do with the differences between Marten and Tai than with Dora's personal growth (though that is very likely also a factor): when Dora did her insecure thing with Marten, he tended to blow it off and/or get defensive about it in a "why can't you trust me" kind of way; Tai appears to lack this defensiveness, which means she isn't providing any fuel to Dora's fire and thus lead to a real fight. I don't know that I'd say this is because Tai's either a genius or an idiot, it's just who she is. Different values, different person.

I think in this case it's just going over Tai's head.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Nov 2013, 16:51
She's short. A lot of things go over Tai's head.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Nov 2013, 17:16
Short? She's positively Tainy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Nov 2013, 17:41
I think we're going to need a bigger pun jar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 18 Nov 2013, 18:04
I think in this case it's just going over Tai's head.

Possible, but the first response ("Did she? I didn't notice."), assuming it's genuine, seems to me less like it went over her head and more like she just didn't care/wasn't looking for it. She takes a molehill for a molehill, as it were, rather than the shadow of a mountain.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 18 Nov 2013, 18:35
Everyone seems to be assuming that Tai's words in the latest strip were some kind of a clever, thought-out deflection, rather than a simple, straight-forward and honest reaction to what she'd been told.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Nov 2013, 18:37
Right, there's a difference between ACTUALLY defusing a situation and just not noticing it. Because whether you think there's a mountain or not, if the other person thinks there is, that's what matters.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 18 Nov 2013, 18:53
Wait, so Allie knows something about Tai the rest of us don't?

Tai is in fact a bastard child to some eccentric Billionaire and she's plotting to crush Dora, marry Tai, and then claim that sweet inheritance money for herself by getting power of attorney over Tai after she puts her into a coma with some spiked protein shakes laced with insecticide.   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 18 Nov 2013, 18:59
Everyone seems to be assuming that Tai's words in the latest strip were some kind of a clever, thought-out deflection, rather than a simple, straight-forward and honest reaction to what she'd been told.

Exactly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 18 Nov 2013, 19:30
I love how the forum debated countless widely-varying specific interpretations of exactly what Allie communicated to Dora with the smirk, and now we see that Dora actually doesn't know what it meant either!

I don't see any crisis in Dora & Tai's relationship happening here.  Dora's pissed at Allie for being rude to her (as most people get pissed when someone is rude to them out of the blue). Tai is cheerful and talking about sex (typical Tai).  No biggie.

If Dora were having a fit of relationship insecurities as with Marten, surely she'd be asking something about Allie's relationship with Tai ("who was that? how close were you?  what does she know about your bedroom skills?") instead of just complaining that the bitch smirked at her.

P.S. I want waffles with a 30oz coffee for breakfast.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: BrusselSprouts on 18 Nov 2013, 20:26
so bedroom activities between Tai and Dora have officially been confirmed and Dora doesn't seem to be really freaking out. All in all, a good day
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 18 Nov 2013, 21:03
Love the bit on the soft drink dispenser.  And it's true.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Nov 2013, 21:08
Right by her knee :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 18 Nov 2013, 21:12
Does anyone else get the feeling that Jeph will not use this week to disclose what became of Hannelore's first widowed drumstick?

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I've always wanted to aknowlege one of these.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 18 Nov 2013, 22:05
Does anyone else get the feeling that Jeph will not use this week to disclose what became of Hannelore's first widowed drumstick?

...Pintsize found it and some unmentionable things with it.(totally making this up)  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Nov 2013, 23:20
I think in this case it's just going over Tai's head.

Possible, but the first response ("Did she? I didn't notice."), assuming it's genuine, seems to me less like it went over her head and more like she just didn't care/wasn't looking for it. She takes a molehill for a molehill, as it were, rather than the shadow of a mountain.

But now we will never know just where that molehill is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 18 Nov 2013, 23:40
Alright, so who's gonna take that last shot of Tai and make a 'HONK HONK' anigif? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 18 Nov 2013, 23:52
 :-(

NO HANNERS OR RAVEN IN THIS WEEKS POLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT COOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 19 Nov 2013, 01:38
But now we will never know just where that molehill is.
Where the mole is?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 19 Nov 2013, 01:45
But now we will never know just where that molehill is.
Where the mole is?
Who the mole was?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Nov 2013, 01:49
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 19 Nov 2013, 02:01
Panel 2 = cuteness overload <3
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Omnium on 19 Nov 2013, 06:03
Right, there's a difference between ACTUALLY defusing a situation and just not noticing it. Because whether you think there's a mountain or not, if the other person thinks there is, that's what matters.

My suspicion is that Tai did notice it and there's more to be revealed about Allie, which I'm guessing will happen once Tai gets back to the library. Either she'll talk about it with Marten, or Allie will be there. I'm thinking there was much more to their relationship than just hooking up. I doubt Tai would give her a-game to someone she was just randomly hooking up with. We have to remember that Tai's not exactly a stranger to relationship drama, (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=726) so her deflect Allie's smirk and downplaying their relationship wouldn't be surprising.

On the plus side, this does provide a good example of Dora getting a handle on her control issues. She's delegating responsibilities at the shop and didn't fly off the handle when her girlfriend's ex looked at her funny. Progress! ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 19 Nov 2013, 14:46
I think Tais reaction to all of this is actually the right one.  She's not completely ignoring it, but she's downplaying the whole thing to calm Dora down and show just where her true attention is now that Tai is with her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 19 Nov 2013, 17:34
I am of the opinion that there was no real deep meaning behind the smirk. People smirk all the time without a terrible ulterior motive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 19 Nov 2013, 18:36
I doubt Tai would give her a-game to someone she was just randomly hooking up with.
Well, a fair number of people are more comfortable being their most wild and crazy selves in the bedroom with casual hookups than with serious partners: it's safer, in a way, because if the hookup buddy can't handle it and rejects you, you haven't lost as much as if your true love has that reaction.

Or Tai might just be so gung-ho sex-positive that she'll bring her a-game to anyone who's ready for it, whether she's casual or serious about them...  and she's only been holding back with Dora because of Dora's clearly stated need to take things slow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 19 Nov 2013, 20:10
That's how I am. Gung-ho sex positive. I bring whatever level the I think person I am with can handle. My whole goal with sex is to bring pleasure to the other person. Why would I give them anything less?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Nov 2013, 20:45
To the tune of As Time Goes By:

Though Allie is a jerk,
A smirk is just a smirk,
A Tai is just a Tai,
...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 19 Nov 2013, 21:35
And Tai turns the table.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2580

Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 19 Nov 2013, 23:22
Indeed. Dora is not the one with insecurity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 20 Nov 2013, 00:39
Indeed. Dora is not the one with insecurity.

I don't see  any insecurity out of Tai so far either.  She does seem to be on unfamiliar turf though.  I'd never invite comparisons with partner's past lovers, but she seems quite innocent doing this. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 20 Nov 2013, 01:26
I don't see  any insecurity out of Tai so far either.  She does seem to be on unfamiliar turf though.  I'd never invite comparisons with partner's past lovers, but she seems quite innocent doing this.
Mmm... But one should think twice about asking questions to which you might not like the answers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 20 Nov 2013, 01:29
I don't see  any insecurity out of Tai so far either.  She does seem to be on unfamiliar turf though.  I'd never invite comparisons with partner's past lovers, but she seems quite innocent doing this.
Mmm... But one should think twice about asking questions to which you might not like the answers.

No comment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 20 Nov 2013, 02:34
Still getting some insecurity issues from Dora, Tai obviously is joking around but Dora still seems bothered by the whole situation...

Dora does know that she will go to Marten to ask anyway, so something else must be going on which goes back to the whole insecurity issue...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 20 Nov 2013, 02:35
To the tune of As Time Goes By:

Though Allie is a jerk,
A smirk is just a smirk,
A Tai is just a Tai,
...

I thought I told you never to play that song!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Nov 2013, 04:00
Never asking questions about a lover's exes. Especially when one of those exes is your good friend.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 20 Nov 2013, 04:12
Shortly: Tai boasting to Marten that Dora says her kisses are better than his. Marten challenges this, offers Tai a comparison sample. Dora walks in just as they unclench. Drama!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 20 Nov 2013, 05:21
Yeah, in contrast to her handling the Dora-outburst pretty well, trying to get Dora to compare her to her exes does not seem to be one of Tai's smarter moves... I hope they change topic soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Nov 2013, 05:47
Marten challenges this, offers Tai a comparison sample.
Yeah, that would never happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 20 Nov 2013, 06:08
Marten challenges this, offers Tai a comparison sample.
Yeah, that would never happen.

Suure it would, and then he'll smarm his way into a foursome with Claire and Emily as well. That woudl be just like him, the dog!  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 20 Nov 2013, 07:01
I wanna hear about some of Dora's exes, the details.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Nov 2013, 07:26
Turkey sense, tingling! Sensing... a breakup?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 20 Nov 2013, 07:42
A breakup? Over this?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Nov 2013, 07:47
Tai is wandering into foot sandwich territory.  I could see her accidentally push a button with Dora, which triggers Dora's anxieties, which triggers (da-DUMMM) "Relationship Shredder Woman"!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Nov 2013, 07:50
A breakup? Over this?

Well, remember that Dora manufactures her own reasons to break up...  But I don't see that happening here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 20 Nov 2013, 07:54
These last few comics just encapsulate my fluxuating rotation of ambivalence and annoyance with Tai as a character.

I try to like her...but I just can't.  She's like a 5 year old...And I hate toddlers.  They're devil incarnate.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Nov 2013, 09:59
Uh, 5-year-olds aren't toddlers, as a rule.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 20 Nov 2013, 10:22
pff to madmartigen, they are all pecks...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 20 Nov 2013, 11:22
Ahh Tai, sometimes you remind me of the proverbial Puppy peeing on the floor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 20 Nov 2013, 12:07
Uh, 5-year-olds aren't toddlers, as a rule.  :-D

You clearly haven't been cursed to be in the presence of nasty 5 year olds that act more like toddlers. 

Makes you want to punt them.  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Nov 2013, 12:16
I try to like her...but I just can't.

Do the strips where she's supportive of Marten help your efforts?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 20 Nov 2013, 13:29
I can't say Tai is one of my favourite characters either, but I liked the way she acted when she wanted to get together with Dora. She talked to Marten about it first and then took the initiative. I think she did that in a rather admirable way.
I really hope they don't breakt up over this. But I don't think they will.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 20 Nov 2013, 13:43
Marten challenges this, offers Tai a comparison sample.
Yeah, that would never happen.

Suure it would, and then he'll smarm his way into a foursome with Claire and Emily as well. That woudl be just like him, the dog!  :-P

That would make for a fairly awkward conversation

"Marten, your ex says you kiss better than I do.  Emily, Claire, get over here and act as judges!"

Not happening til Jeph's final strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 20 Nov 2013, 14:01
I really hope they don't breakt up over this. But I don't think they will.
I don't see this arc going there.  It's stayed in the realm of low-level awkwardness for a few strips now.  Neither one of them seems to me to be seriously upset about anything.

Not too bright of Tai to pester Dora to compare her to exes, but Dora's handling it well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 20 Nov 2013, 14:15
just me but:
1. Wouldn't ever date a friend's ex unless that friend came up to me and suggested it in a serious manner.

2. If I did, I would never ask her to compare me and my friend as far as being a couple goes...even make outs.  Now if she just blurted out, "wow, you're way more fun to make out with than [insert friend]."  That would be different, though I would have kept it to myself and not tell the friend.

Honestly I think I am terrible at make-outs.  :-P

I can't tell if Dora is saying Tai is better than marten or if she is just re-enforcing the brick wall to the conversation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 20 Nov 2013, 14:38
Tai's been in a freewheeling scene for a while.  Probably the majority of her sexual history in terms of time might well have been short term casual stuff.  I imagine that in a tight little circle, word and ratings are going to get around anyway so there's little use being shy about it. 

I also see Tai as yearning for maturity, responsibility and general grown-uppedness.  That's what I gather from when she told Dora she was crazy about her.  http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2227

On the plus side of all this, Dora will probably think better of it next time she's thinking of bringing up past lovers. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Nov 2013, 15:32

I can't tell if Dora is saying Tai is better than marten or if she is just re-enforcing the brick wall to the conversation.

The latter I think. I kinda wish she'd answer though, imagine what a blow it'd be to Tai's psyche if Marten was a better kisser? Our skinny friend has kissed a lot of ladies, and grew up in a very... alternative household, Tai probably has more competition on that score then she thinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 20 Nov 2013, 16:31
What if Dora says Marten is the better busser? I can see the next scene being in the Smif library with Tai saying, "I'll just see that for myself."
Of course, Marten would greet this development with his customary "Buh?"

... and then Dora would need to use the copier ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Nov 2013, 18:17
...and that's where I'd predict my breakup.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Nov 2013, 18:38
Errr... correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Tai is in to dudes, and seems way too into Dora to go kiss Marten, even if her skillz are challenged.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Nov 2013, 20:14
Yeah, that was my reaction but I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it, but the whole "Tai isn't into to dudes" was a pretty important part.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 20 Nov 2013, 20:42
She does, however, like to stir things up and is occasionally oblivious (as is Marten, to be fair) to their effect on others.

Plus, you know, Rule of Funny.

EDIT: New comic up. And Faye's not helping either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Nov 2013, 21:38
"Wait, I'm supposed to be helping?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 20 Nov 2013, 21:44
Leave it to Faye to tell it like it is to her friend  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 20 Nov 2013, 22:04
Yeah, that was my reaction but I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it, but the whole "Tai isn't into to dudes" was a pretty important part.

Tai can just squint and pretend it's Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 20 Nov 2013, 22:15
Yeah, that was my reaction but I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it, but the whole "Tai isn't into to dudes" was a pretty important part.

Tai can just squint and pretend it's Dora.

Good point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 20 Nov 2013, 22:22
No dramatic blowup/meltdown/breakup yet.     Hm, is he trolling us or is just not going that route this time?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 20 Nov 2013, 22:40
Looks like he's setting the stage for the first rough spot they'll hit. 

I doubt they'll break up, but I see the potential for some interesting character development.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Nov 2013, 23:03
Yeah, that was my reaction but I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it, but the whole "Tai isn't into to dudes" was a pretty important part.

Tai can just squint and pretend it's Dora.

http://questionablecontent.net/992
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 21 Nov 2013, 00:16
Quote
I RESCIND MY GRATITUDE!

Love it! classic QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 21 Nov 2013, 00:40
Errr... correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Tai is in to dudes, and seems way too into Dora to go kiss Marten, even if her skillz are challenged.

On the other hand she was happy to take advice from Marten on bondage, so in a sufficiently neutral educational situation, who knows?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Nov 2013, 00:59
Looks like he's setting the stage for the first rough spot they'll hit. 

I doubt they'll break up, but I see the potential for some interesting character development.

Wait- is this going on at the same time Claire and Emily are talking?

Hmm...I wonder. Emily + big secret + no drama yet with Dora = back to Claire's drama and possibly Tai learning the secret...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 21 Nov 2013, 01:06
Well, Tai would be the LAST person to cause any problems for Claire, I'm sure!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 21 Nov 2013, 01:32
Faye has an evil twin? I don't think so; the last panel was vintage Faye trolling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 21 Nov 2013, 01:40
IIRC, our host has made it clear that Clair's status is NOT going to be used for drama. 

Quite frankly, I don't see any of the main characters (except for maybe some perviness from Pintsize) plausibly causing much of a fuss or even giving much of a damn. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 21 Nov 2013, 01:53
Sure, but it is clear that Claire's insecurities about those issues will play a part in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Nov 2013, 02:09
If hers don't then Clinton's will.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Nov 2013, 02:31
IIRC, our host has made it clear that Clair's status is NOT going to be used for drama. 

Quite frankly, I don't see any of the main characters (except for maybe some perviness from Pintsize) plausibly causing much of a fuss or even giving much of a damn.

Not exactly drama, more of a cliffhanger "oh crap" moment more on the "Emily screws up" than a Claire bombshell...
Edit: Given the amount of time left it's doubtful and unlikely this will happen. Possible in the future but highly unlikely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 21 Nov 2013, 03:20
Something tells me that the secretive part would be off limits for this particular comic as far as a device for driving a cliffhanger or moving the plot along.  I can't quite put into words why actually, but I have a strong feeling that in the context of this particular comic, it would be better to let the subject of Clair's trans status be a its own thing and not hang too much on it. 

Also, if I were in Jeph's shoes, I'd advance that very slowly and take a lot of time to make sure I was doing it right.  And that seems to be what he's doing. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 21 Nov 2013, 03:38
Yeah, I can't see Jeph making a cheap joke out of it, for sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 21 Nov 2013, 04:29
Yeah, I can't see Jeph making a cheap joke out of it, for sure.

I'm talking about a higher standard that that even. 

I mean, doing the opposite, or an opposite of that.

Note: I'm sorta thinking out loud here trying to work out what the words to describe my feelings are and anyone should feel free to critique what I'm saying.  And I really don't want to step on anyone's speaking for themselves.

There should be a limit on how much a straight cis male profits using trans* issues.  I'm thinking a very low end, unless there's a trans* person actually in an ownership role.  If too much of the comic hinges on Claire's Trans status, then there's a form of exploitation going on.  In some sense, we SCM's ought to be in a mindset of being in the service of the trans population as a whole when we are making representations of them. 

For example, I'm learning about the art and craft of glass fusing.  If I were to decide to make pro LGBT paraphenalia, I wouldn't feel right making a lot of money out of it, or having it be too much of a draw to have folks look at my other stuff.  I'd feel OK offering it as one option among other choices of merchandise though.  I'd actually feel most comfortable doing that stuff by request or commission. 

But that doesn't exactly map out directly to a comic like we have here.  To not be awkward and forced, Claire has to be a Jeph Jacques creation and subject to humour.  Otherwise, she's a mere token.

I'm still not too much closer to putting into words precisely why I think her out status shouldn't be the subject of a big Thanksgiving cliffhanger.  I think if I could, I'd be a much more effective ally than I am at the moment.  And I kinda think some things need to be heard coming from allies. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Nov 2013, 04:50
I regret mentioning it as a possible cliffhanger. I screwed up on the dates, I didn't notice that it was only a couple of strips left before Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 21 Nov 2013, 04:56
This year, the cliffhanger should be Pintsize actually hanging off a cliff!  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 21 Nov 2013, 05:10
I regret mentioning it as a possible cliffhanger. I screwed up on the dates, I didn't notice that it was only a couple of strips left before Thanksgiving.

You've given me some stuff to try to sort out in my head. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Nov 2013, 06:13
I think there won't be a cliffhanger this year. Just to mess with us.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 21 Nov 2013, 06:38
The cliffhanger will be us waiting for a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 21 Nov 2013, 07:00
Re: rschill's comment on "there ought to be a limit ... "

Comments like that -- and I don't want to single you out, because I hear such calls from too many people -- leave me cold, mostly because I wonder who the commenters want setting and enforcing the limits.

In the case at hand, Jeph Jacques and QC have established a precedent of handling such issues with thought and sensitivity, to the point where the artist has been driven to the point of near self-destruction by a "fan" who thought he/she/it was being ... witty?

But even where that's not the case: Let someone say what they will. If it's wrong, or you think they're wrong, call them on it. The marketplace of ideas (which, more often these days than before, translates pretty directly into the real marketplace) will decide who and what will rise. That might be the only realistic way of setting and enforcing the "limit" some people seek to put on others.

In other words, if Jeph and QC can find acceptance handling issues such as gender preference and trans* and a myriad others the way he has -- learning along the way from opinions expressed to him, his own thought processes, and his own mistakes and those of others and any other learning method I've left out -- he deserves every penny of success he gets from doing so, whatever I, you or anyone else says.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Nov 2013, 07:34
The cliffhanger will be us waiting for a cliffhanger.
Or, the ever famous, "Man, nothing ever happens around here."-type strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Nov 2013, 07:50
Calling it now, there will be a kiss. By whom? No idea and it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 21 Nov 2013, 07:57
I know Dora has had some bad exs in the past according to Sven but I at no point thought the last few comics would end in break up.  I honestly feel like its a set up to find out a bit more about Dora's past relationships as hinted by Sven way back when him and Marten where talking on a bench.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 21 Nov 2013, 09:34
Re: rschill's comment on "there ought to be a limit ... "

Comments like that -- and I don't want to single you out, because I hear such calls from too many people -- leave me cold, mostly because I wonder who the commenters want setting and enforcing the limits.

In the case at hand, Jeph Jacques and QC have established a precedent of handling such issues with thought and sensitivity, to the point where the artist has been driven to the point of near self-destruction by a "fan" who thought he/she/it was being ... witty?

But even where that's not the case: Let someone say what they will. If it's wrong, or you think they're wrong, call them on it. The marketplace of ideas (which, more often these days than before, translates pretty directly into the real marketplace) will decide who and what will rise. That might be the only realistic way of setting and enforcing the "limit" some people seek to put on others.

In other words, if Jeph and QC can find acceptance handling issues such as gender preference and trans* and a myriad others the way he has -- learning along the way from opinions expressed to him, his own thought processes, and his own mistakes and those of others and any other learning method I've left out -- he deserves every penny of success he gets from doing so, whatever I, you or anyone else says.


I didn't mean to backseat drive the comic.

I started out trying to say why I didn't think we'd see a Claire accidental outing drama based on the way he's handled the story so far and what I remember Jeph writing about it.  Then I tried to get at the general principles.

As far as I can tell, Jeph does a stellar job on Claire and the comic in general.  I might be biased because QC is the only comic I've ever followed though. 

But you see, the characters could almost be all straight white cis hetero with just a few details changed and a couple arcs missing.  It seems to me that what's great about the diversity is that it's so normal.  It isn't a device.  It isn't the selling point.  It seems to me that it's just what you're supposed to do when portraying humans.

That's what keeps my eyeballs looking at the ads every day. 

I hope that makes sense.  If not, then I blame these nice meds that have been making my back pain bearable. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Nov 2013, 10:25
Not just when portraying humans, either. Momo is a peer to the other characters.

Alyssa Rosenberg wrote recently that Claire was a character first and a trans woman second, in literal chronological order.

Beware of assigning too much social meaning to the comic, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 11:34
Quote from: Jeph's twitter
Hmm. I might have to actually show some boob in this comic I'm working on.
:parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Nov 2013, 11:45
Awww yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Nov 2013, 11:51
Quote
Oh wait, I just remembered the Google Ads TOS. Boob will have to be censored.

Damn you google!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Nov 2013, 11:54
But whose boobs would he have shown?

Because if it's Pintsize, I just don't want to see that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 21 Nov 2013, 11:57
Gina Riversmith makes a return.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Nov 2013, 12:07
But whose boobs would he have shown?

Everyones.

It's essential to the story!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Nov 2013, 12:42
Claire eating cereal for four panels.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 12:45
She seems more of a pop tart girl.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 21 Nov 2013, 12:45
But whose boobs would he have shown?

Everyones.

It's essential to the story!

If this is the case, Mieville's going to have a LOT of fly catching to do for appropriate censorship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 21 Nov 2013, 13:08
Someone in this comic must have polythelia
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Nov 2013, 13:55
She seems more of a pop tart girl.

Concur. Which is awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 21 Nov 2013, 14:04
Would she eat them cold or toast them like you're supposed to? (My age is showing.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 21 Nov 2013, 14:07
Laser eyes.
Specifically, laser eyes tuned to the exact frequency that pop tarts absorb, but nothing else in the universe does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 21 Nov 2013, 14:11
But whose boobs would he have shown?

Everyones.

It's essential to the story!

The day someone stumbles across Pintsize's shower-cam website?    Last panel showing the bean-grinder at COD spitting out colored plastic shreds the same color as Pintsize?

Oh wait Jeph doesn't DO ultra-violence.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Nov 2013, 14:32
He doesn't?

"Metal foot... to... mantenna array! Pain level... Shatnerian... in intensity!" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=746)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 21 Nov 2013, 14:33
Not to mention what Marten did to that poor monk.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Nov 2013, 14:36
Let's not even get into Momo and the squirrel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 21 Nov 2013, 14:38
Yes yes, I was being silly.   :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Nov 2013, 14:40
And your user name is disturbingly appropriate to the quote I linked.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Nov 2013, 14:44
I have unlocked the boob reference! Yelling bird will get a girlfriend, a Red-Footed Boobie!  :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 14:52
Hopefully her fate is better than the fate of the partridge (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1304).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 21 Nov 2013, 14:56
The Cliffhanger will be Cliff Richard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 21 Nov 2013, 14:58
And your user name is disturbingly appropriate to the quote I linked.  :-D

They only get squishy if you kick them REALLY hard. 

So no.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 15:01
Ahh, damn. The first time I looked I thought it said "right in the squishy pants".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Nov 2013, 16:14
Hopefully her fate is better than the fate of the partridge (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1304).

Which lead me back to one of my favorite strips: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 21 Nov 2013, 16:25
Not just when portraying humans, either. Momo is a peer to the other
damn, I should have said "people"

Quote
Alyssa Rosenberg wrote recently that Claire was a character first and a trans woman second, in literal chronological order.

Beware of assigning too much social meaning to the comic, though.

It would probably be fair to say I occasionally over/under think things. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Nov 2013, 16:35
But whose boobs would he have shown?

Because if it's Pintsize, I just don't want to see that.

If its Pintsize where the heck did he get them and how big of a hole does Marten need to dig in the park to bury the body(ies?)  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 21 Nov 2013, 16:37
Faye/Marigold Boob Singularity End-Times Extravaganza? 

...

While in theory such a thing would be amusing I would prefer the strip not to end so soon.  I look forward to my QC every day!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Nov 2013, 19:52
 And then Tai pulled her shirt up and asked Marten if her boobs were perky enough.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 21:03
Yeah, I fail to see how this comic could have (or even must have) had boob.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Nov 2013, 21:15
Friends of the year award go to...Faye and Marten!

Faye tells her to be more open, Marten tells her to be reassuring. Basically the same message with a different way of saying it: just talk to each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Nov 2013, 21:24
Yeah, I fail to see how this comic could have (or even must have) had boob.
It isn't necessarily today's comic. He's mentioned a few times that lately he's been working a few days ahead.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 21 Nov 2013, 22:26
Dorapedia? Is it bad that next to Marten's advice my mind added [citation needed]?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 22:29
More like [original research].
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 21 Nov 2013, 22:40
Quote
Every other aspect of my life has thrown off my weirdness calibration.

Not every other aspect for me... but one or two ones, yes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Nov 2013, 22:47
Weirdness calibration (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1666).
Weirdness calibration (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=534).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 21 Nov 2013, 22:59
She seems more of a pop tart girl.

I somehow read that as "poop tart".  :psyduck:
I seem to need a bit more sleep...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Nov 2013, 23:06
Would she eat them cold or toast them like you're supposed to? (My age is showing.)
I've only eaten them cold if I buy them and want them right then and there and there is no toaster around. Which honestly has been the only way I've bought pop tarts in the past decade or so. If I bought them whilst shopping and had them at home, of course I'd toast them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 22 Nov 2013, 01:48
am i the only one who immediately thought of this when reading the strip today?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 22 Nov 2013, 06:36
And then Tai pulled her shirt up and asked Marten if her boobs were perky enough.

MARTEN: "Mieville? How'd YOU get here?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 22 Nov 2013, 09:43
Claire eating cereal for four panels.

Claire eating cereal for three panels.

Fourth panel Clinton walks in, prompting cereal fight.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 22 Nov 2013, 10:21
Followed by cereal murder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Nov 2013, 11:23
Free Robot HandTM in every box! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 22 Nov 2013, 12:21
Cereal murderers should get Life.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Nov 2013, 12:48
Ouch!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 22 Nov 2013, 12:59
But which issue? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 22 Nov 2013, 14:45
Marten is the ultimate NTR recipient waiting to happen. It's mildly depressing how aggressively passive he is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Nov 2013, 14:50
I sincerely doubt Marten would stand for being cuckolded... dude has a spine when he wants to or needs to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Nov 2013, 15:37
You could argue that having a spine is what caused Dora to finally leave him.

But that argument closed several threads around the time of the breakup, so...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Nov 2013, 16:11
Is that argument controversial? That was before my time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 22 Nov 2013, 16:14
Weirdness calibration (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1666).
Weirdness calibration (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=534).

In my Life...
Weirdness calibration (http://grapevine.com.au/~zoebrain/sextuplet0.JPG)

As for Marten - not only is he vertebrate, he's a nice guy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Nov 2013, 16:50
Marten is the ultimate NTR recipient waiting to happen. It's mildly depressing how aggressively passive he is.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ntr
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: lot_jockey on 22 Nov 2013, 17:01
"We ran into one of my old fuck-buddies. I think it freaked Dora out."

It seems like Tai might have missed Dora's second hang-up (or at least did not overtly mention it to Marten): comparing exes is a no-no. Tai says nothing about that argument.

"I'm sorry, is it weird to come to you for dating advice about your ex-girlfriend?"

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Nov 2013, 17:44
Is that argument controversial? That was before my time.

I believe that time on the forums could be summed up as a "cluster fuck to end all cluster fucks". You look at other points where you might expect the forum to act up, then ramp up the dial to around 16 and throw in that weeks WCDT getting 10-15 pages in one night and you might approach how things were during the "Break Up" If I remember right, it was pretty much the catalyst needed for the shakedown on the forum, new mods and admins, lots of threads being closed and a couple of the worst troublemakers getting banned. It felt like if you said something, another contrarian would crop up and be offended by Marten, Dora, the implication of Dora snottily crying into Faye's jacket or some other asinine minor point at the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 22 Nov 2013, 19:46
First post but recent insinuations sure makes it seem like Marten's mother had all of her female co-workers take him aside on his 14th birthday and teach him to kiss properly or else.  Maybe.

Okay, sorry, that's just crazy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Nov 2013, 20:32
Actually, that wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility...

Not bad for a first post. Welcome! (And, since it was the subject of a previous post, you might want to read up on the forum rules. There are some... things... that are frowned upon because of what happened back during The Breakup.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Nov 2013, 21:07
Welcome, new person!

This is, come to think of it, the mother who gave him a bottle of lotion for his bedroom when he was 12.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 23 Nov 2013, 00:11
First post but recent insinuations sure makes it seem like Marten's mother had all of her female co-workers take him aside on his 14th birthday and teach him to kiss properly or else.  Maybe.

Okay, sorry, that's just crazy.

it's crazy to assume that it was only the female co-workers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 23 Nov 2013, 01:10
You could argue that having a spine is what caused Dora to finally leave him.

But that argument closed several threads around the time of the breakup, so...

Yeah but then he's straight into 'yeah its totally cool to hang out with my ex and, oh, my boss is doing my ex and talking to me about it'. That is not cool and not good for your mental processes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 23 Nov 2013, 01:29
How do I word it without giving away too much of my personal life...

There are people who can deal with it better than others. It can work. I am not saying it usually does, not even that it won't usually fail,  or that Marten in particular is a good candidate for that. Just that it can work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Nov 2013, 01:32
Yeah but then he's straight into 'yeah its totally cool to hang out with my ex and, oh, my boss is doing my ex and talking to me about it'. That is not cool and not good for your mental processes.

Marten is many months (comic time - three years our time) down the line from Dora; some people are just able to let go after a while, you know, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 23 Nov 2013, 07:20
Marten is the ultimate NTR recipient waiting to happen. It's mildly depressing how aggressively passive he is.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ntr

None of which seem relevant. Wikipedia has a bunch of other meanings, all just as irrelevant as far as I can see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 23 Nov 2013, 07:31
Actually, that wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility...

Not bad for a first post. Welcome! (And, since it was the subject of a previous post, you might want to read up on the forum rules. There are some... things... that are frowned upon because of what happened back during The Breakup.)

I suspect but I'm pretty new to the whole thing.  Someone posted one of the strips (a recent one) to their facebook wall and I started at #1 and went thru the whole thing in a breathless two day furious read.  Talk about sucked in.  Why do I care so much about what happens to cartoon characters?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Nov 2013, 07:42
I suspect but I'm pretty new to the whole thing.  Someone posted one of the strips (a recent one) to their facebook wall and I started at #1 and went thru the whole thing in a breathless two day furious read.  Talk about sucked in.  Why do I care so much about what happens to cartoon characters?

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US! :D

Seriously, welcome! And go ahead and post a "welcome thread" over in the "Hi, I'm New" subforum (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/board,6.0.html).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 23 Nov 2013, 07:48
Actually, that wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility...

Not bad for a first post. Welcome! (And, since it was the subject of a previous post, you might want to read up on the forum rules. There are some... things... that are frowned upon because of what happened back during The Breakup.)

I suspect but I'm pretty new to the whole thing.  Someone posted one of the strips (a recent one) to their facebook wall and I started at #1 and went thru the whole thing in a breathless two day furious read.  Talk about sucked in.  Why do I care so much about what happens to cartoon characters?

You've only read it through once?        Come back when you can remember utterly inane details from 1500 strips ago (complete with supporting quote and strip number).    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 23 Nov 2013, 08:00
I've read them only three times or so and still don't remember the relevant strip numbers (except 500 and 1800). I do sometimes remember weird details, though, and I usually remember the general story arc they are in.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 23 Nov 2013, 08:32
I've read them only three times or so and still don't remember the relevant strip numbers (except 500 and 1800). I do sometimes remember weird details, though, and I usually remember the general story arc they are in.

I can't do it either for all that I've read the series through several times.   ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2013, 09:27
I've only read through once (and thaf was when there werw only 800 or so), but I'll sometimes read a bunch in a row.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 23 Nov 2013, 09:49
In a tip of the metaphorical hat, based on what I've learned from observing this forum...  I threw out this line in a tabletop RPG Friday Night at my local friendly game-store (open-table night.)

The character is an alien doing a survey for a large corporation:

"Of the two primary genders currently identified on this planet and the 29,147 intergalactic-ly recognized trans-gender, trans-sexual, and 'misc' configurations currently on file... what is your stated preference for a partner?"

Apparently I hit the right note with that because I had people at other gaming tables come up to me and comment (all positive) comments on my inclusive statement when I was done with the scene.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 23 Nov 2013, 11:12
In the lesbian community, if you couldn't date a friend's ex, no one would ever date anyone. The scene is small enough that it's almost impossible to not end up dating someone a friend dated or slept with. Even if wasn't cool with it naturally (which I am) I'd be used to it by now. Giving advice to a friend on dating an ex is par for course. No big deal, especially if it's been several months and there's been another relationship since the break up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 24 Nov 2013, 08:40
My thoughts?  Marten is passive but he's not a pushover.  I think he's come to terms the thing with Dora is well over and he's probably cool with discussing some things in general but possibly not specifically.  Does that help?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 24 Nov 2013, 12:33
Murder and Mayhem .......... 14 (9.4%)
THE RETURN OF WIL! .......... 14 (9.4%)
Guest appearance by a Platoon of Marines .......... 10 (6.7%)
More Tai and Dora cuteness .......... 40 (26.8%)
Band Practice .......... 7 (4.7%)
Spiders from Mars .......... 4 (2.7%)
Dale the Rookie .......... 25 (16.8%)
Faye goes power mad .......... 12 (8.1%)
Pintsize .......... 2 (1.3%)
Green Eggs and Spathe Ham .......... 6 (4%)
Waffles with 30oz Coffee .......... 9 (6%)
Purple Monkey Dishwasher .......... 6 (4%)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2578-2582 (18-22 November 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Nov 2013, 16:34
Does that help?
It does! Welcome to the forum, ASB!