THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)
Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: TheEvilDog on 26 Jun 2011, 12:31
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Of course, this could all be moot if its a guest week. Anyway, here we go!
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I don't think he'll leave us hanging with a guest week - twitter sez he wants to get this arc over with.
I'm thinking we'll be seeing the morning after a bad decision on Dora's part...
...and Jim doing a booty dance. :-P
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Nah, it all ends with Marten and Tai looking very sheepish
Rocks fall, everybody dies!
Except the Winslow... who gets picked up by Phil and Kaja
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Ah, a preemptive moderating strike!
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It's super effective! (hopefully)
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I noticed in the comments for Friday's strip Jeff says he wants to do the next few weeks of comics right.
This suggests to be we may be seeing the beginning of some new story arcs.
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Not likely, he'd still have to finish off the Date arc, and we're still in the middle of the Party arc as well, so when he referes to the next few weeks of comics, Jeph is probably referring to these arcs.
Gotta hand it to Jeph. He is nothing if not dedicated to the quality of his comics and its storylines.
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It could be nothing more than a repeat of the Sven-Hanners date thing, of course.
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Not if Jeph predicted caterwauling forumites. I don't see anyone here caterwauling over Jim being a perfect gentleman and Dora being ... whatever it was Hanners was being on the pretend date.
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this is going surprisingly well. Jim is a charmer.
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Are the date and the party long enough to be considered arcs? To me arcs would be like Are they or aren't they? with Marten and Faye, Dora and Marten; the couple, I wonder if maybe we are about to see the closing of the Dora and Marten; the breakup story arc.
But then again the party has been mentioned for a long time (real time) and so has the date, so it would depend on how you define it.
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So apparently Jim is a bank robber in his spare time. Interesting :-P
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My vote is Dora and Jim have a lovely time, then as he's walking her to her car they have an unfortunate run-in with the rest of the group after some serious party foul-level drinking--or, just Tai with her pants off???
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Or worse, Tai and Marten doing a streak
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Or worse, Tai and Marten doing a streak
Or worse, Veronica's maiden name could be McClane, and Jim's surname is Gruber. :-o Marten has to save Coffee of Doom from Jim and his crack(ed) crew of theives!
See this is what happens when you suffer from insomnia.
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Or worse, Tai and Marten doing a streak
Or worse, Veronica's maiden name could be McClane, and Jim's surname is Gruber. :-o Marten has to save Coffee of Doom from Jim and his crack(ed) crew of theives!
See this is what happens when you suffer from insomnia.
Yippie Kaiyay Motherfraker :-D
Next;
Jim and Dora go on a nationwide crime and robbery spree dragging Tai and Faye into it and wind up 'Killing' each other in a botched Bank robbery.
Hmmm
That; could be a good movie.
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Dora: I love you Pumpkin.
Jim: I love you Honey-bunny.
(They kiss)
Jim: Just like last time, you get the customers, I'll handle employees.
(stands up with PISTOL)
EVERYBODY BE COOL, THIS IS A ROBBERY!!!!!
Dora: ANY ONE OF YOU FUCKING PRICKS MOVE, AND I'LL EXECUTE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good comic today! :laugh:
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Dora: I love you Pumpkin.
Jim: I love you Honey-bunny.
(They kiss)
Jim: Just like last time, you get the customers, I'll handle employees.
(stands up with PISTOL)
EVERYBODY BE COOL, THIS IS A ROBBERY!!!!!
Dora: ANY ONE OF YOU FUCKING PRICKS MOVE, AND I'LL EXECUTE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, and Dale becomes bald and starts quoting the Bible... :laugh:
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Isn't this how Bonnie and Clyde got started?
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yeah, and Dale becomes bald and starts quoting the Bible... :laugh:
You mean Ezekiel 25:17?
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yeah, and Dale becomes bald and starts quoting the Bible... :laugh:
You mean Ezekiel 25:17?
Exactly! :wink:
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Ah, Jim, you continue to entertain.
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Well, seems like they've got a pretty good date going on right there.
:-D.....
I somehow still feel like at anytime something could happen that ruins it though, it's a fragile balance.
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I just finished a marathon archive binge (because I was bored), and i have to say; Jeph's art is pretty frakking incredible nowadays.
Also, I couldn't help but giggle at today's strip. This date feels so much more relaxed when compared to some of the other ones Jeph has depicted in the past. I kind of like this dynamic Dora and Jim have.
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Hehe, todays comic was quite funny...
Jim and Dora go on a nationwide crime and robbery spree dragging Tai and Faye into it and wind up 'Killing' each other in a botched Bank robbery.
Hmmm
That; could be a good movie.
Hmm maybe we'll see the gang pulling a perfect heist, which turns out less than perfect.....
D: Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?
F: What was that? I'm sorry, I didn't catch it. Would you repeat it?
D: Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?
What has happened to the rest of the gang, your guesses are as good as mine... :evil:
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Dang, why can't you choose all the poll options.
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The co-conspirator expressions on their faces in the last panel made today's comic.
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I kind of want Jim to not be joking in the last panel and this date to take an unexpected, but lucrative, turn.
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I just hope we see at least one comic about the party by the end of the week.
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The co-conspirator expressions on their faces in the last panel made today's comic.
I dunno, it looks out of character for both of them. The bug-eyed look in both of them looks like a manga parody gone wrong.
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The co-conspirator expressions on their faces in the last panel made today's comic.
I dunno, it looks out of character for both of them. The bug-eyed look in both of them looks like a manga parody gone wrong.
They are playing together! They disovered a shared secret fantasy and they are following up on the joy of playing with it!
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Nah, it's perfect.
And as the spouse of a former small business owner, completely in character for them to have a back up plan if the business tanks.
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I don't feel it's out of character at all... also... Manga? Nah.
I can't believe I'm going to write this... But I'm sold: I want more Jim & Dora comics. They seem to have a fun dynamic.
I'm very neutral when it comes to the comics characters, I just want the best for everyone else.
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I dunno, it looks out of character for both of them. The bug-eyed look in both of them looks like a manga parody gone wrong.
Not really, their eyes are nowhere big enough to be compared to a manga, much less be considered a parody of it.
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Nah, it all ends with Marten and Tai looking very sheepish
You're not suggesting...?
You do recall that Tai shows significant revulsion at the thought of sex involving a penis?
yeah, and Dale becomes bald and starts quoting the Bible... :laugh:
You mean Ezekiel 25:17?
Fun Fact: Ezekiel 25:17 doesn't contain the famous quote. The vast majority of that speech is an original invention in a style that just sounds vaguely Old Testament.
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
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So now creepy old guy with anger management issues and a failed marriage is a bank robber too?! Way to pick a guy to screw over Marten with, Dora.
:roll:
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So now creepy old guy with anger management issues and a failed marriage is a bank robber too?! Way to pick a guy to screw over Marten with, Dora.
:roll:
You're really bad at this trolling thing.
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So now creepy old guy with anger management issues and a failed marriage is a bank robber too?! Way to pick a guy to screw over Marten with, Dora.
:roll:
I'd hate to imagine what you'd assume about me based on overhearing one evening of friendly wisecracking between some friends and I.
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That bad, huh? :oops:
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
In this comic?
....sounds about right.
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
I thought that robbing a bank is a federal offense? Would they still put her into a state correctional institution?
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
But Dora will have escaped, and Marten will complain he psyched himself up for the prison visit for nothing.
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
But Dora will have escaped, and Marten will complain he psyched himself up for the prison visit for nothing.
You win.
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
But Dora will have escaped, and Marten will complain he psyched himself up for the prison visit for nothing.
You win.
I second this statement.
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This is either going to be a "perfectly normal" date, or something is going to go horribly wrong which will result in Marten visiting Dora at Framingham.
But Dora will have escaped, and Marten will complain he psyched himself up for the prison visit for nothing.
Marten: "Oh man, why does everything bad happen to ME?"
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Wow, and cue the first strip in which I have genuinely liked Jim! He's not being bitter or creepy, and he and Dora have a good rapport. They seem to be at least half-joking in the last panel, but we'll see . . . For some reason, I imagine Pintsize would be most disappointed to not get in on some bank-robbing action.
The impending awkward moment (there has to be at least one, right?) may be a few strips away. Morning after their date, Dora's about to head home and catches post-party Tai rooting around in the garage -- her Dad's garage. Jim walks out, calls Tai "Pumpkin", Dora and Tai are stunned. Pure conjecture, of course, and YES I'LL STOP NOW. :-P
Also, the poll has made me hungry.
*runs off to find bacon and waffles*
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A reversal of classic film The Graduate with townie whining?
...that might actually work.
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Still think the Jim thing is a bad idea. Assuming they start a relationship Jim's business will cause him to be late for/miss a lunch date or such somewhere down the line, and he does have all those young women working for him...
Irrational emotional problems don't need a reason; they find their own.
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Re: the poll - Marten, a hit with the ladies? ONLY in his dreams. Maybe one or two of them may find him cute, but then he'll mess it up somehow.
As for the comic; Dora and Jim are getting along famously so far. Looks like unless one of them really messes things up, my prediction (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,26909.msg1045291.html#msg1045291) will come to pass.
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Or worse, Tai and Marten doing a streak
Would never happen.
True story: I met a girl from Smith on the bus from Amherst and one day she offered to show me around the campus. I took her up on it and while we were walking down State St, these three girls came by on bikes yelling "get off the campus you f'ing man." The next day I asked her about it and she said they were planning to ride topless across campus.
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I will say that at least thus far the date seems to be going well, and I do have to admit that the bank robbery discussion is oddly cute. Looking forward to seeing how the rest of this plays out.
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Dora looks extraordinarily cute in the last panel as well...
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I suppose it shouldn't be surprising if that Dora might consider bank robbery as an alternate career. Then again, she seems rather disdainful of convenience stores. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1718)
Oh, and interesting fact; the average US bank robber gets away with roughly $2000, but the robbery costs the bank nearly ten times as much in lost productivity, counselling, not including the lost takings. Not the best job then, but at least you get the chance for long vacations...
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Hey it could be worse. Jim could go all Falling Down on us!
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I imagine Pintsize would be most disappointed to not get in on some bank-robbing action.
Win!
Can't you just see Pintsize in a mask, opening the bank's electronic vault mechanism like R2 ...?
:-D
Marten shocked to find wads of currency stuffed in his chassis?
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I suppose it shouldn't be surprising if that Dora might consider bank robbery as an alternate career.
She didn't seem as keen when Faye suggested it (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1217).
I think you're misreading her reaction.
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True, she simply had a better idea. Wasn't rejecting Faye's suggestion at all...
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I imagine Pintsize would be most disappointed to not get in on some bank-robbing action.
Win!
Can't you just see Pintsize in a mask, opening the bank's electronic vault mechanism like R2 ...?
:-D
Marten shocked to find wads of currency stuffed in his chassis
Simpler than that:
MARTEN: "Pintsize, you know anything about all these new zeroes in my bank balance?"
PINTSIZE: "No, and neither do you. By the way, sign for my new chassis when it arrives tomorrow, wouldya? Oh, and I bought this building. You can tell Whitaker to hit the bricks."
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OTP!
Or, well, they are the same.
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Poll Results;
Dora and Jim have a pleasant evening, with no incident. (Yeah right!) 12 (15.4%)
Marten becomes a hit with the ladies at the party. Then wakes up from his dream. 12 (15.4%)
More Raven and some rather insightful comments. 5 (6.4%)
Pintsize gets to the party...its like a very bad 80s horror film. 4 (5.1%)
The forum continues to go rabid over the comic. 30 (38.5%)
Nothing happens, everyone lives happily ever after. Oh look, flying bacon in front of an azure moon! 4 (5.1%)
Screw this poll, I'm getting waffles! 11 (141%)
Total votes - 78
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I was and still kind of am in the Dora should probably work on her issues more before dating camp but I have to admit it's nice to see some happy, back-and-forth banter in the comic.
*Edit: I just noticed the doodle on Jim's napkin with what looks like a building blueprint/doodle. Nice detail! This has also caused me to notice they haven't got food yet so the date's going well but there's still a ways to go.
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I imagine Pintsize would be most disappointed to not get in on some bank-robbing action.
Win!
Can't you just see Pintsize in a mask, opening the bank's electronic vault mechanism like R2 ...?
:-D
Marten shocked to find wads of currency stuffed in his chassis?
I just suddenly imagined Pintsize walking on panel, saying that he managed to get the electronic lock open, and then when they see it it's smoking a cigarette.
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An e-Cigarette, of course.
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Man, this date is going WAY better than I expected it to.
Took the words right out of my mouth, Jeph.
Dora looks extraordinarily cute in the last panel as well...
So did you.
Get out of my head. :x
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I suppose it shouldn't be surprising if that Dora might consider bank robbery as an alternate career.
She didn't seem as keen when Faye suggested it (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1217).
She's had time to consider it since then. For all we know that was exactly when she first decided on that as her backup plan.
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Anyone would think she *wants* this date to go well...
Indeed, in spite of our natural inclination to assume that people decide to go on a date in the earnest hope that it will end badly. :psyduck:
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Co-conspirators are cute.
I imagine Pintsize would be most disappointed to not get in on some bank-robbing action.
Win!
Can't you just see Pintsize in a mask, opening the bank's electronic vault mechanism like R2 ...? [Yes, the mask is ESSENTIAL!]
:-D
Marten shocked to find wads of currency stuffed in his chassis?
I just suddenly imagined Pintsize walking on panel, saying that he managed to get the electronic lock open, and then when they see it it's smoking a cigarette.
Of course, because fitting his key into her lock is very Freudian...
Tova: Our natural inclination is to see webcomic dates in the earnest hope that they will end badly.
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I don't think he'll leave us hanging with a guest week - twitter sez he wants to get this arc over with.
I'm thinking we'll be seeing the morning after a bad decision on Dora's part...
...and Jim doing a booty dance. :-P
Better than:
"... and now they're all wanted for robbery."
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I suppose it shouldn't be surprising if that Dora might consider bank robbery as an alternate career.
She didn't seem as keen when Faye suggested it (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1217).
I think you're misreading her reaction.
Of course, she is afraid if other people do it..... (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1718)
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No-one likes competition. :-D
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WHOA!!!
Jim is a single dad who's daughter lives with him?!?!?
I approve of this development!!!!!
His stock just doubled in value in my opinion.
Still not sure it's a good idea for Dora to date him, but the daughter thing totally eliminates the creeper thing.
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new character!!! :-D
Will Jim's wife be a new character too or is she someone we already know? :psyduck:
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So Jeph has said he won't do a pregnancy - but that doesn't prevent him doing parent-child stuff...
Oh look, my daughter got engaged last week to a man with a ten-year-old boy :-o
EDIT:
It just occurred to me, looking again at the scene in the last panel - does Cosette have a kid sister? Hmm, perhaps he would have said "my younger daughter" in that case.
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Dora looks like she's being charmed :wink:
Also she's taking the fact that he's a dad better than I thought she would. Cool.
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It just occurred to me, looking again at the scene in the last panel - does Cosette have a kid sister? Hmm, perhaps he would have said "my younger daughter" in that case.
Could be a HALF sister... :wink:
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...!
Jeph is drawing a non-adult character! And by the gods, it looks good!
Keep surprising me. This is why I read QC!
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Hmmm, Jim has a kid...interesting. :-)
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Jeph is drawing a non-adult character! And by the gods, it looks good!
It? She is surely more customary when speaking of girls? And she does.
That is a serious fire-extinguisher for household use. I suppose Jim the professional baker would take no chances, but what was his daughter cooking? Napalm flapjacks?
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I read it as "it" = "the drawing" looks good; I don't think you need to take offense this time.
She probably just overheated a frying pan with oil in. I'd use a fire blanket rather than an extinguisher in that case, but she might not know, or they might not have one.
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Heh, I also read It = drawing. Probably because it is a drawing. :psyduck:
Also... How old do you guys think she is? I guess around 10.
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It? She is surely more customary when speaking of girls? And she does.
Some people find gendered pronouns offensive :-P
I second you on 10 years old. It would mean Jim had her at a respectable age too!
Anyone gonna guess names? I'm thinking 'Susie.'
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Yes, but they almost always suggest ridiculous substitute pronouns like "xur" and "hxe"*
Refering to a person as "it" is nearly universally offensive, but if you mean a drawing of a person, it would indicate the drawing, not the person.
*These may or may not be actual proposed ridiculous substitute pronouns, I just pulled them out of my ass.
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Question: does that fire extinguisher look like it is resting on the floor to you? Because one of my first reactions was that little Jimette Junior has some impressive strength for a chiddler, to be holding a fire extinguisher up in one hand like that.
On another note, surely nobody's scones are THAT good.
Some people find gendered pronouns offensive :-P
Probably some of the same idiots who wanted to rename 'history' to 'herstory'. :-P
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Those show the same level of intelligence as the word filters that block Essex and Scunthorpe; I could as well suggest changing Manchester to Personchester. But the issue of pronouns is not entirely trivial; my present preference is to use the plural pronouns for the missing genderless-but-not-neuter ones, which has the advantage that they don't need explaining.
Some people find gendered pronouns offensive :-P
Only if used inappropriately though, I hope.
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Jim having a kid in the mix will change things up. I'm interested in seeing how Dora handles that if they take this to another step. If Dora is still not over her hurdles she may end up jealous over Jim and his ex wife still having to communicate because they have a child together. Seeing how even now, while my boyfriend and his brothers are all in their mid-twenties and up, his mom and dad have been divorced for 23 years but they still speak occasionally. His mom told me, regardless of their differences, and over looking his wrong doings, he is still the father of her children. No matter what that will tie them together (not in a love way, but some here may understand what I'm trying to say). Communication is a bit important when it comes to a child.
Not over analyzing I hope. I'm just interested in seeing where Jeph may take this, and if Dora hasn't tried to overcome herself and her past in Jephs head yet, this may be a train wreck in motion.
She may seem fine now, but jealousy and fear have a way of working its way into your head. Sometimes it takes time, with my past issues it took almost a year into my and Davids relationship for my jealousy to take hold of me.
Edit: Changed separated to divorced seeing as how that may confuse some. o.0 :psyduck:
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No matter what that will tie them together (not in a love way, but some here may understand what I'm trying to say). Communication is a bit important when it comes to a child.
Absolutely. I still see my first wife from time to time (actually, we even sometimes invite her to dinner - but not too often!), usually in connection with the children, but also as somewhat distant friends (like visiting her in hospital).
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new character!!! :-D
Will Jim's wife be a new character too or is she someone we already know? :psyduck:
Veronica Vance.
*ducks thrown items*
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Question: does that fire extinguisher look like it is resting on the floor to you? Because one of my first reactions was that little Jimette Junior has some impressive strength for a chiddler, to be holding a fire extinguisher up in one hand like that.
An empty extinguisher is much lighter than a full one, though.
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Allow me to share that my 10-year old self once sprayed a whole kindergarten, including the teachers and their clothes, with a fire extinguisher. It went just fine. :angel:
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It? She is surely more customary when speaking of girls? And she does.
Some people find gendered pronouns offensive :-P
:-) Well, there is the option to move over here, as the Finnish language does not have gendered pronouns. OTOH we don't have a word for 'please' either. Win some, lose some.
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Did anyone else hear Tempest Bledsoe when Jim's daughter says "Okay, I totally have time to clean this up"?
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I just reread and it seems like Jim has primary custody from the way he talks despite his crappy lawyer. NOT THAT THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE UNFAIR THAT WAY, but it makes me wonder if the divorce was because his ex-wife did something crazy. She was also irresponsible enough to let her daughter walk from her house to her dad's house, when she's not supposed to.
Off-topic: I've read philosophy paper/essay things which use the genderless pronouns 'ey', 'em' and 'eir'. I would use those because I find assigning a gender awkward and the singular 'they' is wrong, but I worry about looking like a loser. Finland is so progressive.
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Did anyone else hear Tempest Bledsoe when Jim's daughter says "Okay, I totally have time to clean this up"?
No, I heard my daughters.
Both of them.
In stereo.
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Did anyone else hear Tempest Bledsoe when Jim's daughter says "Okay, I totally have time to clean this up"?
No, I heard my daughters.
Both of them.
In stereo.
Shall we presume that similar HAS OCCURED inside your happy home? :roll:
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the singular 'they' is wrong
But all bets are off anyway when you're changing the language.
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Did anyone else hear Tempest Bledsoe when Jim's daughter says "Okay, I totally have time to clean this up"?
No, I heard my daughters.
Both of them.
In stereo.
Shall we presume that similar HAS OCCURED inside your happy home? :roll:
Only one grease fire, and fortunately, I was there at the time. However, my wfe and I were always suspicious when we came home to a cleaned-up living room / dining room / kitchen. "What happened in here?" was usually the first reaction!
Not to mention the time a hairless cat ran by, complaining loudly. Mind you, the cat had not been hairless when we left...
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Off-topic: I've read philosophy paper/essay things which use the genderless pronouns 'ey', 'em' and 'eir'. I would use those because I find assigning a gender awkward and the singular 'they' is wrong, but I worry about looking like a loser. Finland is so progressive.
But singular they is NOT wrong. It has been used throughout modern English and nobody is confused when they see it.
The word "they" can be used to indicate uncertainty of gender, number or identity. It can also be used when the antecedent is known to be plural. At some point (probably right after denouncing split infinitives and terminal pronouns, both of which are perfectly acceptable) someone declared by fiat that the first usage was verboten.
They then went on to presumably read that "All men are created equal" and decided that women are neither created nor equal, and therefore not worth mentioning at all. Sooner or later, women decided that that attitude was not to blithely be put up with.
You will notice that nowhere in the preceding two paragraphs do the words "he," "him," "his," "she," "her" or "hers" appear. But I am not forced to conjure ad hoc substitutes to make my point clear; singular they works perfectly well to achieve this. The goal of written communication should be to convey the relevant ideas. When following a "rule" makes that goal easier, it should be followed, but if following such a "rule" interferes with communication, it should be immediately abandoned without a second thought.
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We also notice your split infinitive :wink: ; after all, even Fowler said that rule was a waste of space.
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What parent hasn't had that happen at some point?
Not necessarily the fire, but the kid thinking that "I can fix it and they will never know."
Usually followed by Mom/Dad/Parental figure walking in at inappropriate moment...
And as for the "gendered pronoun" nonsense - yeah Akronnick! Although, if referring to actual people or characters, I don't see their use as a problem.
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Fire? I set the house on fire when I was seven or eight; my little sister's earliest memory is of sitting on a fireman's knee!
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We also notice your split infinitive :wink: ; after all, even Fowler said that rule was a waste of space.
And it didn't make the sentence harder to understand at all, did it?
There is also a terminal pronoun, do you even notice it?
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the singular 'they' is wrong
But all bets are off anyway when you're changing the language.
And....while we're eliminating gender-based pronouns, lets do phonetic spelling too!
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Dora looks like she's being charmed :wink:
Also she's taking the fact that he's a dad better than I thought she would. Cool.
Yeah, I almost expected the third panel to be a "WHAAAATTTT????" instead of an "Awwww."
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new character!!! :-D
Will Jim's wife be a new character too or is she someone we already know? :psyduck:
Veronica Vance.
*ducks thrown items*
THWAPTHWAPTHWAP THWAPTHWAPTHWAP SPLAT!
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new character!!! :-D
Will Jim's wife be a new character too or is she someone we already know? :psyduck:
Veronica Vance.
*ducks thrown items*
THWAPTHWAPTHWAP THWAPTHWAPTHWAP SPLAT!
was that a whip thrown? :police:
btw, when I asked, I was thinking of Gina Riversmith (NSFW) (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1334) :angel:
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That literally just happened last night with my little cousin. Just like that. Well, except dad was out with his wife.
Uncanny.
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Off-topic: I've read philosophy paper/essay things which use the genderless pronouns 'ey', 'em' and 'eir'. I would use those because I find assigning a gender awkward and the singular 'they' is wrong, but I worry about looking like a loser. Finland is so progressive.
Heh... I should obviously have put a smiley after my remark about "she" rather than "it"... Sorry.
The singular "they" was good enough for Shakespeare, Thackeray, Jane Austen, Mark Twain and many other great writers over centuries. I am certainly not going to claim I know English better than they. Wikipedia suggests that a particular hostility to the singular "they" is an Americanism, so I'm not going to worry about it. In spoken Chinese, the words meaning he, she, and it are all pronounced identically as "tā", but are written as 他, 她, and 它 respectively, and the "generic" male pronoun is used just as it is in English, so we're certainly no better off.
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And....while we're eliminating gender-based pronouns, lets do phonetic spelling too!
Actually, I prefer that we all spell (mostly) the same even if we pronounce differently; phonetic spelling written by someone else gets hard to read surprisingly quickly.
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For the record, my first comment on this was sarcastic.
The issue comes in when a person wants to describe a hypothetical situation and needs to refer to (?) imaginary person in the third-person. If this hypothetical story goes on for a long time (?) will have to assign a gender. What if this person is writing about rape or sexual assault. Does (?) really want a bunch of people getting offended because (?) spoke about it only in the male or female pronoun?
There are ways around that, like disclaimers, his/her, or the passive voice etc. but why be inefficient?
I'll concede on the singular 'they', but I'm not allowed to use it in exams - lose marks for error of conchord or something. A real-life problem I had though was with this person who was completely angrogynous and whenever people spoke about them in the third-person they would pause a moment and then go "It..." I was never comfortable enough to ask them what they wanted to be called - I was like 11. And to this day they don't have a gender on Facebook. Is 'they' working? I am not a great writer like Twain :-(
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Just asking in case no one else is wondering it but me...
Is it possible that Jim's daughter has a college-age older sister?
...Who's orange...
Like her?
:psyduck:
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:-D I'm happy about Dora's reaction- makes sense in a way, considering that none of the characters have kids thus far and they are approaching the age when most females begin to catch baby fever. (Granted, his kid is definitely not a baby but this scenario could draw out some of Dora's maternal instincts and thus raise the maturity bar) Dora is at an age where it might do her some good to have someone to look after and take a little of the focus off of herself. I'm sure it won't be as selfless as the mother/baby bond but one could argue that a preteen can sometimes be just as needy. This new person could keep her entertained! :-P
As far as Daughter's age? I can't see her as 10. For one thing, she's too tall. She's slouching and she's still only a foot or so shorter than the fridge. Standing straight, I'm sure she'll gain a few inches. Sooo, she's at least 5ft. Also- if she were ten years old, she probably wouldn't have the strength and control over that fire extinguisher to only hit the stove....that stuff would have been all over the kitchen. I see her as 12, maybe 13.
The way I see it, this new development could make or break the chance of Dora and Jim's pending relationship success, based on the rapport between Dora and Daughter (IF and when they meet). Either Dora and Jim's daughter get along famously and Dora slips easily into the role of "Dad's girlfriend" or his daughter doesn't like Dora and not only does it strain Jim's relationship with his daughter, it brings up Dora's insecurity monster.
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Off-topic: I've read philosophy paper/essay things which use the genderless pronouns 'ey', 'em' and 'eir'. I would use those because I find assigning a gender awkward and the singular 'they' is wrong, but I worry about looking like a loser. Finland is so progressive.
But singular they is NOT wrong. It has been used throughout modern English and nobody is confused when they see it.
The word "they" can be used to indicate uncertainty of gender, number or identity. It can also be used when the antecedent is known to be plural. At some point (probably right after denouncing split infinitives and terminal pronouns, both of which are perfectly acceptable) someone declared by fiat that the first usage was verboten.
They then went on to presumably read that "All men are created equal" and decided that women are neither created nor equal, and therefore not worth mentioning at all. Sooner or later, women decided that that attitude was not to blithely be put up with.
You will notice that nowhere in the preceding two paragraphs do the words "he," "him," "his," "she," "her" or "hers" appear. But I am not forced to conjure ad hoc substitutes to make my point clear; singular they works perfectly well to achieve this. The goal of written communication should be to convey the relevant ideas. When following a "rule" makes that goal easier, it should be followed, but if following such a "rule" interferes with communication, it should be immediately abandoned without a second thought.
I'd like to have a language where you can say something, without a problem to keep the sex of the person mentioned out. In German it's a living hell to read a gender neutral report. "Liebe Bürger/in", "Sehr geehrte Studenten/innen" and so on and on.
Intersting though, it's widely common to say Polizist and Polizistin (policefolk ^^). But I hardly find the term Mörderin (murderess? female murder) in the news. The maximum is the term accused.
My guess for the age of the girl would be 13-14 years old.
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The first time I read the comic I for some reason didn't absorb the last panel and only saw the text bubble about cleaning and though it was a mini alter Hannelore, wanting time to clean!
Ooh maybe Dora will come up to his place for some coffee/baked goods and she'll meet the daughter and the Dad will be all about to scold her and Dora will step in and handle it in some big sistery way!
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The first time I read the comic I for some reason didn't absorb the last panel and only saw the text bubble about cleaning and though it was a mini alter Hannelore, wanting time to clean!
Ooh maybe Dora will come up to his place for some coffee/baked goods and she'll meet the daughter and the Dad will be all about to scold her and Dora will step in and handle it in some big sistery way!
What is wrong with you? That would make Dora even creepier than people thought Jim was if she acted like that the first time she met his daughter.
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Singular "they" is a particular bugaboo for me. I've used it for years, usually in writings referring to a genderless student. But recently when my father-in-law (retired English professor and department head of a big 10 university) saw me use it in a poece my wife had him proof, he threw a fit, thought I'd know better. Pain in the but rewriting all that, and wound up using a few "he/she"s, which I loathe.
Daughter's age? Remember Jeph's size issues, you can't judge by height, especially compared with background appliances. She doesn't seem that old, could be anywhere in the 9 - 13 range, I'd say. We'll find out soon enough - seems we're going to get a full intro to Jim!
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I for one am suprised at all the support today; I love it, but it's eerie. I keep waiting for "HE HAS A KID?!?? KEeP THAT CrAZY BITCH AWAY!!!!"
As for the daughter (I'm hoping for the name Lucy) addition:
I don't really think he's going to introduce the two of them quite yet, and the possibility of staying over is now sorta eliminated.
I like this added factor, Jim immediately becomes more responsible which is both attractive and necessary to Dora right now. He's got things to take care of all of the time, which could be really great for her. Yes, she might and probably will get irrationally jealous at some point, but unlike Marten, Jim won't have time for her to act out.
Probably though, the flames of their love, like Jim's kitchen, will become extinguished.
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Off-topic: I've read philosophy paper/essay things which use the genderless pronouns 'ey', 'em' and 'eir'. I would use those because I find assigning a gender awkward and the singular 'they' is wrong, but I worry about looking like a loser. Finland is so progressive.
But singular they is NOT wrong. It has been used throughout modern English and nobody is confused when they see it.
It's more complicated than that. It's actually a pretty recent grammatical construction, built for specific political reasons. (which makes it pretty par for the course compared to every grammatical construction ever).
The word "they" can be used to indicate uncertainty of gender, number or identity. It can also be used when the antecedent is known to be plural. At some point (probably right after denouncing split infinitives and terminal pronouns, both of which are perfectly acceptable) someone declared by fiat that the first usage was verboten.
As a French, I can tell you it's even more complicated in some languages. At least in English plural pronouns are neutral. It's not the case in French. And it brings out plenty of political questions. For example, canonically, by French grammar, a group of persons that includes three billions women and one man has to be refered using a "male" (or rather "masculine") variant of "they".
So at least English could invent singular "they". We're still uncertain about what to do in French.
They then went on to presumably read that "All men are created equal" and decided that women are neither created nor equal, and therefore not worth mentioning at all. Sooner or later, women decided that that attitude was not to blithely be put up with.[/quoted]
It was based on many preexisting texts, some of which lead to the Constitution of Virginia, which greatly influenced La Fayette who, when he came back to France, drafted the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen).
And amidst French Revolution, some women, most famously Olympe de Gouges (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympe_de_Gouges), called out about the gender bias in the wording, which was in no way unsignificant. Olympe claimed that "A woman has the right to mount the scaffold. She must possess equally the right to mount the speaker's platform." And she produced the [Declaration of the Rights of Woman and the Female Citizen/url]. She was very inconvenient to the Boys. She was decapitated for that. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Woman_and_the_Female_Citizen)
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I'll concede on the singular 'they', but I'm not allowed to use it in exams - lose marks for error of conchord or something.
Use it anyway! Fight the system, man! Rebel against their oppressive linguistic regime! Marks must be sacrificed for the liberation of language from the obsolete vestiges of overfastidious Victorian pseudo-pedants!
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Use it anyway! Fight the system, man! Rebel against their oppressive linguistic regime! Marks must be sacrificed for the liberation of language from the obsolete vestiges of overfastidious Victorian pseudo-pedants!
... Jeez.
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I live by the singular "they" when not knowing or not desiring to share a person's gender.
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Use it anyway! Fight the system, man! Rebel against their oppressive linguistic regime! Marks must be sacrificed for the liberation of language from the obsolete vestiges of overfastidious Victorian pseudo-pedants!
... Jeez.
The crowd cheered uproariously!
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Well I think that while Jim having a daughter paints him a better light, especially with him working all night in the bakery it would seem that he chooses to spend the day with his daughter.
That said, I dunno, I think it might cause problems down the line for Dora and her seemingly "What-About-Me?" attitude, we've seen it before where Dora kinda expects that people put her first. We've seen it during her first therapy session where she seemed a little annoyed that the therapist asked her about Sven rather than her. The real test is going to be when we see Jim putting his daughter before her and how she reacts to that.
Also, SPONTANEOUS METAL INTERLUDE! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=666)
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Suddenly I have a feeling that we also inadvertently got a glimpse of Faye's childhood in the 4th panel.
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Yeah, this happened to me a lot growing up. A whole lot of fires. After the first couple it wasn't even a big deal anymore. We all knew I could handle a fire so no one was really worried about it.
About six months ago my sister wakes me up from a nap panicking. Fire was blazing. She needed my help. "What do I do!" just a complete mess. I take a look at it, go through the cupboards and say "Well the fire's not spreading everywhere. We've got it contained so now we can just wait for it to burn itself out."
I think she was surprised by that but I was able to calm her down so that helped. I really should buy some freaking baking soda or something though. I really like that memory. Like my dad always says "The bigger they get, the cuter they ain't", and she's getting old enough that she's not really dependent on me for much anymore. Pretty sure we've only got so many moments like that left.
As a whole the kid in the kitchen brought back a whole slew of very fond memories for me. She's very cute, and the look on her face is priceless. Probably shouldn't try and hide this stuff though. Futile to try, especially if she's emptied that fire extinguisher. Nothing more suspicious than a suddenly depleted supply of flame retardant.
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Suddenly I have a feeling that we also inadvertently got a glimpse of Faye's childhood in the 4th panel.
If Jim commits suicide after seeing the fire damage you get the No-Prize!
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Use it anyway! Fight the system, man! Rebel against their oppressive linguistic regime! Marks must be sacrificed for the liberation of language from the obsolete vestiges of overfastidious Victorian pseudo-pedants!
I am amused that almost the exact same discussion is happening simultaneously on an English forum devoted to pipe organs! For example (http://www.mander-organs.com/discussion/index.php?showtopic=3241&view=findpost&p=59755):
I think you probably lose the argument once you bring split infinitives to the table. [...] the "rule" was invented by classicists: as it is impossible to split the one-word infinitive in Latin it should be made impossible by diktat in English. Any such "invented" rules are destined to fail. Those of us privileged to have been made aware of the rule can nod or shake our heads wisely as some no-nothing makes yet another transgression.
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...Probably shouldn't try and hide this stuff though. Futile to try, especially if she's emptied that fire extinguisher. Nothing more suspicious than a suddenly depleted supply of flame retardant.
If Jim lives in an apartment, that big ol' fire extinguisher may well have come from the hallway. She replaces it, and at the next inspection the owner's served with a violation. And Daddy never knows...
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I for one am suprised at all the support today; I love it, but it's eerie. I keep waiting for "HE HAS A KID?!?? KEeP THAT CrAZY BITCH AWAY!!!!"
As for the daughter (I'm hoping for the name Lucy) addition:
I don't really think he's going to introduce the two of them quite yet, and the possibility of staying over is now sorta eliminated.
I like this added factor, Jim immediately becomes more responsible which is both attractive and necessary to Dora right now. He's got things to take care of all of the time, which could be really great for her. Yes, she might and probably will get irrationally jealous at some point, but unlike Marten, Jim won't have time for her to act out.
Probably though, the flames of their love, like Jim's kitchen, will become extinguished.
Whoa! Love? It's just one date. It's not even clear to the characters how attracted they are to each other right now. As for Jim not having time for her to act out because he is too busy... that is not really a good thing in any stretch. It makes him more likely to tell her to shut the **** up and grow up (not a comment on how mature I think she is but the most likely scenario based on my experience with most people who are older or think they are more mature). I agree that in the long term I don't think they are going to work out and although I am still in the Marten/Dora camp I don't see them getting back together. I'll just get back onto topic. When someone is too busy to entertain an argument that person either ends up being a very dominating person (which Dora does not need) or seems neglectful towards the person trying to argue. I think this date will just kind of sputter out.
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It's actually a pretty recent grammatical construction, built for specific political reasons.
That is simply false. The singular they was used by Chaucer in the 15th century, and has featured regularly in English literature ever since. Campaigns for gender-neutral writing might be relatively recent, but the grammatical construction is older than modern English.
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Poll Results;
Dora...does not work well for others. 5 (8.2%)
Good to see Dora has alternate plans for the future. 9 (14.8%)
Dora and Jim, the next Bonnie and Clyde. 12 (19.7%)
Pintsize would be the Tommy Gun. Would you want to deal with him? 7 (11.5%)
We didn't see anything, we don't know anything. We ain't telling you nothing copper! 10 (16.4%)
Plan A. Walk into bank. Steal Money. Escape. Spend Money. 6 (9.8%)
Plan B. Blame it all on Jim. 12 (19.7%)
Total votes - 61
Wow, first tied poll I've ever seen on here.
Also, bye Hail Satan tag, it was good while it lasted :-P :-D
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Ooh Jim's got a kid. Not too surprising considering his age and the fact that he was married. But that means Dora may get to be [scary laugh]THE EVIL STEPMOTHER[/scarylaugh].
Let's see if she realizes the implications herself and decides to bail.
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Ooh Jim's got a kid. Not too surprising considering his age and the fact that he was married. But that means Dora may get to be [scary laugh]THE EVIL STEPMOTHER[/scarylaugh].
Let's see if she realizes the implications herself and decides to bail.
I'd be kinda surprised if Dora were thinking quite that far ahead...
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I'm betting Jim's daughter is a teenager (13 years old, but still a teen).
And yes, I'm betting that interactions between her and Dora will bring back way too many reminders of how she was as a teen.
Especially when Jim reveals that his 15-year-old son is staying with his ex-wife.
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The girl's name starts with an M, callin' it.
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Sorry, Jim's daughter, but char and soot is damn near impossible to clean from house paint without destroying it.
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As unlikely as it is that she will be able to hide the evidence in time, I'd say that Jim will be so relieved that she is still alive and the house is still standing that she won't be in too much trouble.
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It'll be too much of a reminder of the time that "giant blender thingy" went up in flames.
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I guess the cooking talent skipped a generation :-D
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Cooking and baking are two completely different skill sets.
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Ah,
kids t(w)eens.
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I hate to say it, but it is a sad day when QC goes for domestic humor. This strip hits a little too close to newspaper comic territory.
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I hate to say it, but it is a sad day when QC goes for domestic humor. This strip hits a little too close to newspaper comic territory.
That's a little harsh.
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Jeph is an awesome guy, but I feel like I should respectfully state my opinion as a fan. If he told me that he had a problem, I would immediately stop, since these are his forums after all.
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It's actually a pretty recent grammatical construction, built for specific political reasons.
That is simply false. The singular they was used by Chaucer in the 15th century, and has featured regularly in English literature ever since. Campaigns for gender-neutral writing might be relatively recent, but the grammatical construction is older than modern English.
I think you misread. I read that (and prior to reading, I understood it to be the same) as the removal of the singular "they" being a recent construction. I'm definitely of the opinion it should still be used. It makes things simpler, and it's already very well used and accepted in the vernacular.
Also, on topic. Still loving this story arc. I'm actually kind of hoping Jim (and family) becomes at least a long running character, no matter what happens with Dora.
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The first time I read the comic I for some reason didn't absorb the last panel and only saw the text bubble about cleaning and though it was a mini alter Hannelore, wanting time to clean!
Ooh maybe Dora will come up to his place for some coffee/baked goods and she'll meet the daughter and the Dad will be all about to scold her and Dora will step in and handle it in some big sistery way!
What is wrong with you? That would make Dora even creepier than people thought Jim was if she acted like that the first time she met his daughter.
I guess I wouldn't find it creepy. (But I know I'm weird. :-P) I mean it can't be any weirder than her screaming that she loves little butch lesbians. I've always felt she's like a sister, mostly a big sister to the other employees of CoD.
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We also notice your split infinitive :wink: ; after all, even Fowler said that rule was a waste of space.
And it didn't make the sentence harder to understand at all, did it?
There is also a terminal pronoun, do you even notice it?
Oh man, I didn't even know it was sick...
*runs and hides*
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Ok ok I admit I may have been wrong about Jim. I am infact doing a bit of a 180 turn on it. I like older funny dad Jim. I'll be right back with my plate of humble pie.
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Jim's got a kid?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1672
She doesn't want kids anytime soon, and he already has one.
You're in Jim...now don't screw it up! :-P
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Dear Stephen from way back:
I used the term "flames of their love" to make a really bad pun. "Flames of first date intrigue" doesn't sound as good.
You are right that it probably will end with her being selfish and Jim not following her, but I like to hope otherwise.
I loved Marten and Dora together, but I can also see them with other people.
I hope you forgive me for my terrible sense o' humor,
Hannah
EDIT: Addressed the wrong person.
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Jeph is an awesome guy, but I feel like I should respectfully state my opinion as a fan. If he told me that he had a problem, I would immediately stop, since these are his forums after all.
Um... I wasn't taking issue with you stating your opinion. I was just disagreeing with it.
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I hate to say it, but it is a sad day when QC goes for domestic humor. This strip hits a little too close to newspaper comic territory.
Well, it's only one strip in 2000-odd so far; and I'm not sure I agree with your assessment anyway. We can't really judge the single panel until we see what he does with it - maybe it's somewhat of a call-back to why Faye moved in with Marten, for instance.
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Let's see - we've seen people moving, figuring out how to share an apartment, cleaning...
I don't think the domestic humor's new, and there's a great deal of material that can be mineed in Jeph's unique style. Just 'cause it involves a kid doesn't keep it from being QC!
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aaaaand the creep is back! :psyduck:
come on Jim... is it seriously a first date joke? :x
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That had been going so well...
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Did we already know Dora's age, or is this new?
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Jim, now is a wrong time to be channeling tapirs.
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Jim, Jim, Jim...
To be honest, that's something I would do. I have no filter when I get nervous.
Wait..
I'm 36, Jim's 39. my son's 10, Samantha is 13.
I HAVE TO START A BAKERY!!!!!
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/spit take
Very interesting life plan. When your kid is in his/her/its :? teenage years, divorce and find some new woman for the next gen. Maintaining your own genes for a longer time in the grand play.
btw. Jims 40, and gets 41 one in July
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The girl's name starts with an M, callin' it.
Well, perhaps she is 'Mantha to her friends... :-D
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Oh God, really smooth Jim, really smooth.
Seriously, is anyone still thinking he is an older version of Marten? Because he sure can be as awkward as him, if I must say.
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Oh God, really smooth Jim, really smooth.
Seriously, is anyone still thinking he is an older version of Marten? Because he sure can be as awkward as him, if I must say.
Marten + some ego + divorce + carrer me thinks
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Oh God, really smooth Jim, really smooth.
Seriously, is anyone still thinking he is an older version of Marten? Because he sure can be as awkward as him, if I must say.
Marten + some ego + divorce + carrer me thinks
Well, they're somewhat similar anyway. Jim has a more mature 'feel' to him while Marten is still kind of 'childish', but what do you want with about 15 years more of life experience.
The Marten/Jim comparison aside, I really like Jim so far, and I like how the date is going, especially how happy Dora looks, she looks like she's having fun.
...Well, up to that last joke anyway ^^'
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Daaaaaaang Jim you are going to take the awards for "terrible statements in intimate settings" away from both Sven and Angus at the same time
(and I love you for it and am totally rooting for you to get with dat Dora)
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Some things are a deal breaker, of course. But my daughter (over ten years older than Dora) has never wanted to have children herself, but none-the-less has just got engaged to a divorced man with a ten-year-old-son - I presume he did not make a similar joke (certainly he didn't when he came round to dinner last night).
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...I'd like to say I jinxed him, but lets be honest, Jim was gonna screw that up anyways. :lol:
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Well, they're somewhat similar anyway. Jim has a more mature 'feel' to him while Marten is still kind of 'childish', but what do you want with about 15 years more of life experience.
Marten would be 23, I think, meaning Jim war an adult when Marten was born, thats a heck more life experience :)
The Marten/Jim comparison aside, I really like Jim so far, and I like how the date is going, especially how happy Dora looks, she looks like she's having fun.
...Well, up to that last joke anyway ^^'
Which is more funny, if you're thinking about who does normally do most of the relationshop jokes in her circle :evil: . The right answer would have been: "Huh, ah, huh, bub......"
"Could he be... bizarro Marten?????"
Ho ho ho.
well the qc universe has a robotic overlord, anthro pc like pintsize, a mad scienticst (probably not German, :( ) in a space station developing cross breeds between lions and bunnys, dimensional hopping espressosaurus, so maybe a dimensional portal into a many worlds like bizarro universe would be a nice change.
+ a bit of time travel.
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"Check please" seems a bit extreme, when she's gone along with the "bank robbery" jokes - I'd have thought a glare/Faye-style punch was all it deserved.
Maybe she called for the check because she likes the idea and wants to get started right away!!!!
What?
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Jim seems to alternate between saying the perfect thing and then a moment later chewing on the sole of his shoe. I have to say I am amused.
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BREEDING. REALLY, JIM.
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new character!!! :-D
Will Jim's wife be a new character too or is she someone we already know? :psyduck:
Veronica Vance.
*ducks thrown items*
THWAPTHWAPTHWAP THWAPTHWAPTHWAP SPLAT!
OOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!! Those damn Jelly Dongs hurt!!
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Yep, Jim blew it. This is where Dora cuts and runs.
Maybe.
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I am unnerved by the glaring similarities between me and every male character in this comic (bar Marten).
:|
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Jim seems to alternate between saying the perfect thing and then a moment later chewing on the sole of his shoe.
So, in other words, he'll fit right in with the rest of the cast?
*badum-tsh*
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Is Dora using a piece of paper to subtract 13 from 40?!
It's a photograph of his daughter he handed to her between frames.
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Hah! Called it!
Mmmm it feels good to be right :roll: :mrgreen:
Well, seems like they've got a pretty good date going on right there.
:-D.....
I somehow still feel like at anytime something could happen that ruins it though, it's a fragile balance.
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I don't think the date is ruined, but boy that was funny.
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Damnit it Jim, I'm a barista, not a baby-cannon
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I'm not gonna claim I told you so in any way at this breeding comment. Just a really bad joke in my opinion. My prediction was that the night would go off without serious incident. I know what it is like to be a bit creepy.
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I'm not gonna claim I told you so in any way at this breeding comment. Just a really bad joke in my opinion. My prediction was that the night would go off without serious incident. I know what it is like to be a bit creepy.
BUT! This is Dora and ALL of her insecurities.....
It ain't gonna end well.
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JIM
SERIOUSLY
Made the comic.
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Damnit it Jim, I'm a barista, not a baby-cannon
This is SO full of Win.
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Pretty obvious by now Jim is in this for the sex. Too many roadblocks for this to work, but since Jeph just introduced another character in Samantha it looks like were going to be treated to another "bad relationship" plotline. Sigh...
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I felt my own foot going into my mouth when I read Jim's joke.
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Anyone actually wanted this date to go well ?
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Anyone actually wanted this date to go well ?
My only reasoning for why it would go well is that having Dora go on a good date would troll the forums far harder than any dramatic plot line Jeph is going to come up with that isn't the date going well.
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Anyone actually wanted this date to go well ?
My only reasoning for why it would go well is that having Dora go on a good date would troll the forums far harder than any dramatic plot line Jeph is going to come up with that isn't the date going well.
So....you wanted the date to troll you....
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I don't think it went terribly, Dora is used to people making dumb jokes and I don't see her getting her panties in a twist over something like that. (Plus, I am totally rooting for Jim) Personally, I thought is was pretty funny. I was expecting her to come back with a witty retort- I was actually a little surprised at her response.
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I figured calling for the check WAS the witty retort. We'll see how she really feels tomorrow I guess.
I also love how Jim describes his daughter as creative. It's so parenty :-)
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Anyone actually wanted this date to go well ?
My only reasoning for why it would go well is that having Dora go on a good date would troll the forums far harder than any dramatic plot line Jeph is going to come up with that isn't the date going well.
So....you wanted the date to troll you....
Jeph's made it pretty clear that he hates these forums and that he thinks the current storyline will stir up lots of arguing on here, I am not these forums, etc.
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I also love how Jim describes his daughter as creative. It's so parenty :-)
She probably does have a strong creative streak if she's attempting to cook something that results in the need for a fire extinguisher.
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Anyone actually wanted this date to go well ?
My only reasoning for why it would go well is that having Dora go on a good date would troll the forums far harder than any dramatic plot line Jeph is going to come up with that isn't the date going well.
So....you wanted the date to troll you....
Jeph's made it pretty clear that he hates these forums and that he thinks the current storyline will stir up lots of arguing on here, I am not these forums, etc.
Technically you're a part of these forums, therefore you said you wanted the date to troll you.
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Technically you're a part of these forums, therefore you said you wanted the date to troll you.
I'm a registered poster, but by no means a part of the "community", so again, not really.
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Technically you're a part of these forums, therefore you said you wanted the date to troll you.
I'm a registered poster, but by no means a part of the "community", so again, not really.
Ah, but you contribute to these forums with each post you make. You contribute to this "community". You are a part of this community, else why would you post on here?
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Technically you're a part of these forums, therefore you said you wanted the date to troll you.
I'm a registered poster, but by no means a part of the "community", so again, not really.
Ah, but you contribute to these forums with each post you make. You contribute to this "community". You are a part of this community, else why would you post on here?
Because the other forum I post on that discusses webcomics has made discussion of QC a bannable offense because of how much it is looked down on over there and how much that particular discussion has been beaten into the ground and how tired the moderators there are of it (one of them said QC is only slightly less offensive than CAD, which they still discuss because it's creator provides a steady stream of stuff to mock).
The creators of Dr. McNinja, Axe Cop and a few others are regular posters there as well, so I'm not too sure what metric they're using as the judge of "good webcomic".
Here's part of the OP from their rules thread:
I want to talk about [Blah blah!]
Perfect! Just be aware that some webcomics already have their own threads. They are as follows:
Gunnerkrigg Court
MS Paint Adventures
Achewood
Order of the Stick
Ctrl Alt Delete Hate Thread
Dominic Deegan Hate Thread
If your post is specific to one of these webcomics, please post in that thread, not this one. If there is some crossover and you are, for example, comparing a comic on this list to a newly-discovered one, then feel free to include that here.
"Oh great, Questionable Content doesn't have a thread yet! I want to rant about how much it sucks big fat donkey dong! XKCD, too!"
Wait up there, pal. These are roads oft traveled, and indeed traveled to the point of being oppressively dull. Are you really able to say something insightful and new? Really?
If the answer is "YES I CAN!" then roll the bones, buckaroo. However, be aware that there is a good chance you will be mocked (if not outright banned) if you are not as clever as you initially believed.
NOTE: I really fuckin' hate LICD, so feel free to trash that endlessly.
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The only definition of being part of this community is that you are joining in; denying it doesn't change that.
And what relevance do the rules of another forum have to anything here?
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The only definition of being part of this community is that you are joining in; denying it doesn't change that.
And what relevance do the rules of another forum have to anything here?
I was asked why I post on these forums to discuss the comic (because the other webcomic forum I post on has banned discussion of this comic)? I quoted the rules post just to illustrate the point, is all.
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My goodness. What a silly argument :psyduck:
Not sure what Tiogyr was saying toward the end there, but the forum is a separate entity from you. If your country goes to war with France, are you personally at war with France? As a citizen you may take part, support it, or oppose it, or do something else, but it's not like your country was divided into millions of identical pieces. If the forum as a whole is trolled, that means the forum is in a frenzy because either a lot of people are going a little crazy, or one person is going a lot crazy, or a few people are going a little crazy while some are going a lot crazy, etc. But the state of the forum is not a fact about every individual inside.
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Goons. Of course.
I'm betting Jim's daughter is a teenager (13 years old, but still a teen).
And yes, I'm betting that interactions between her and Dora will bring back way too many reminders of how she was as a teen.
Especially when Jim reveals that his 15-year-old son is staying with his ex-wife.
Since Dora pretty much came out of the womb in pancake makeup (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1896), I kinda doubt it.
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My goodness. What a silly argument :psyduck:
Not sure what Tiogyr was saying toward the end there, but the forum is a separate entity from you. If your country goes to war with France, are you personally at war with France? As a citizen you may take part, support it, or oppose it, or do something else, but it's not like your country was divided into millions of identical pieces. If the forum as a whole is trolled, that means the forum is in a frenzy because either a lot of people are going a little crazy, or one person is going a lot crazy, or a few people are going a little crazy while some are going a lot crazy, etc. But the state of the forum is not a fact about every individual inside.
I've got an even better comparison: I live in a rural town in Georgia. My mailing address is in that town, all my utilities are run through that town, but I'm not a part of that town's community (I'm not even allowed to vote in the local ordinances because, even though my address says I'm in that town I don't actually live within the "limits" of that town).
Same situation here, I have an account, I post and discuss things, but I'm not part of the community in any meaningful sense (unless having access to the DISCUSS forum is the only metric being used here).
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Agree with Tiogyr. For me, being part of a community in a forum is more than just getting registered but I guess that's just me + a few others.
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Tiogyr, I think your point is the opposite of my point... If you kick up a huge fuss all over, go crazy enough, the forum will be considered to be in a 'crazy' state. You are a component of the forum that has an effect on it overall, whether you have an emotional attachment to it or not. And you can vote in it too!
I just meant that if the forum is now crazy because of you, or anyone else, doesn't make me crazy.
Also, people have different definitions of community.
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Tiogyr, you got people welcoming you in and including you and all, and you're finding ways to logically discuss or contemplate it. Don't knock it, man =/
P.S. I can NOT believe that forums for other webcomics passionately hate QC that much.
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It's SA.
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The forum that shows at the top of the front page how many users it has banned!
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...anyways
Jeph has been doing a good bit of foreshadowing recently.
Who wants to lay bets that this sets Dora on a contemplative train of thought which arrives at a station of self-realization in "I-ain't-getting-any-younger-and-if-I-want-to-do-the-whole-marriage-and-kids-thing-I'm-gonna-hafta-get-on-wid-it"-ville.
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Who wants to lay bets that this sets Dora on a contemplative train of thought which arrives at a station of self-realization in "I-ain't-getting-any-younger-and-if-I-want-to-do-the-whole-marriage-and-kids-thing-I'm-gonna-hafta-get-on-wid-it"-ville.
and then she can abandon jim and go back to marten and marry marten and have adorable little identical kiddies and squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Or something.
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...anyways
Jeph has been doing a good bit of foreshadowing recently.
Who wants to lay bets that this sets Dora on a contemplative train of thought which arrives at a station of self-realization in "I-ain't-getting-any-younger-and-if-I-want-to-do-the-whole-marriage-and-kids-thing-I'm-gonna-hafta-get-on-wid-it"-ville.
That's a hell of a big if.
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haha reading todays strip:
Flag on the play-
Illegal motion by offense, penalty: date over.
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So Jeph is trying to get his readers in a tizzy over some post-Marten/Dora breakup drama? All he's done so far is disappoint me with this plotline. It's not very engaging at all these days. :-(
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So Jeph is trying to get his readers in a tizzy over some post-Marten/Dora breakup drama? All he's done so far is disappoint me with this plotline. It's not very engaging at all these days. :-(
Well lets see you write and draw nearly 2000 strips, 8 years worth of comics. Don't judge the arc until its done.
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So Jeph is trying to get his readers in a tizzy over some post-Marten/Dora breakup drama? All he's done so far is disappoint me with this plotline. It's not very engaging at all these days. :-(
Well lets see you write and draw nearly 2000 strips, 8 years worth of comics. Don't judge the arc until its done.
And then they all fucked!
This board needs a yelling bird smiley!
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Good God. I'd end the date too, if I were Dora. Marriage and breeding are two things (other than religion and politics) that I do NOT want to hear about on a first date.
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Me too.
Those kind of 'jokes' are commonly a way of getting your intentions out there to test reactions; if it goes bad, just say "Kidding!"
Creeper.
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Poll results;
Bakery Hipsters - Who'd have thought it? 0 (0%)
But the scones, what about the scones?! 8 (14%)
Kids, bloody impatient little beasts. 2 (3.5%)
Hey Jim, wheres the love? Oh wait, there it is... 3 (5.3%)
"D'aww"ing Dora? Scary.... 8 (14%)
Kids + Alone + Source of flame = Great Idea. Not! 9 (15.8%)
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire! 15 (26.3%)
Errr, who cares? Potential new character! 12 (21.1%)
Total results - 57
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Sometimes it's what you say.
Sometimes it's how you say it.
Sometimes it's when you say it.
Jim hit the trifecta.
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So Jeph is trying to get his readers in a tizzy ...(snip)
He doesn't have to try, really...
How many times has there been a joke like this, the forums have cried that THEIR HAPPY RELATIONSHIP IS OVER NOW, and then the next day they are chatting away like it didn't happen?
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Well lets see you write and draw nearly 2000 strips, 8 years worth of comics. Don't judge the arc until its done.
That's silly. I can't make a big-budget movie either but that doesn't mean movie are somehow exempt from critiques. At this point in time, I find the arc none too engaging. That's all I'm saying.
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But you should also know by now that Jeph knows how this current arc is going to end, we don't. Therefore it is impossible to judge it without all the relevant information.
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Speaking of "how the arc will end"...
It would be amusing if it turns out that Jim's ex-wife somewhat resembles Dora as well. :-D
Out of left field, yes, but for some reason it just popped into my mind.
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But you should also know by now that Jeph knows how this current arc is going to end, we don't. Therefore it is impossible to judge it without all the relevant information.
It's kinda weird how you seem to think it is impossible or invalid to be bored with QC at the moment. Others have posted similar sentiments too, btw.
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Because what we know would fill a book.
What we don't know would fill a library.
I'm content to sit amongst the stacks and take my time reading through each book.
You're getting bored with the preface.
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Good analogy. Prefaces can be really boring.
And tender makes a very good point.
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You're getting bored with the preface.
Saying "I haven't enjoyed what I've read so far" isn't the same thing as judging the entire arc.
And I'm not sure what you mean by the preface analogy... I don't think we're reading a preface, it's a part of an ongoing story.
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My point was, and still is, every tale exists for the sole purpose of being told, be it for good or ill. It doesn't matter if its the greatest piece of literature or the most error filled piece in history, the tale itself is not wasted, only the opportunity to know the tale. You guys must think the same because you're still here, you still want to know whats going to happen in this tale.
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Not to detract too much from the argument, but has anyone else done the math? 41 - 13 = Dora is OLD (okay, so 28 isn't THAT old, but it feels like it because she doesn't look it at all).
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Not to detract too much from the argument, but has anyone else done the math? 41 - 13 = Dora is OLD (okay, so 28 isn't THAT old, but it feels like it because she doesn't look it at all).
You must have a really warped view of what 28 year olds look like. People don't start to look that much older until they are in their mid to late 30s to me.
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Dorothy's no child. I wouldn't describe her as elderly, but she has never been someone new to womanhood in my recollection. Twenty eight sounds about right.
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Not to detract too much from the argument, but has anyone else done the math? 41 - 13 = Dora is OLD (okay, so 28 isn't THAT old, but it feels like it because she doesn't look it at all).
I'm going to be 30 years old tomorrow and look like this (http://i.imgur.com/wagU3.jpg). You really can't go by appearances when trying to judge someone as "old" until the crows feet/gray hair start showing up.
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Next stop for Dora - Tai's Party.
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Therefore it is impossible to judge it without all the relevant information.
The problem is, you're comparing two completely different forms of media. An episode of a series contains all the information that is relevant for that episode, if not the series. You have that information. The problem with a comic is that it isn't an episode, but rather a slice of an episode, so we don't know everything about what is happening. Just as the "Talk" storyline could have been considered an episode, or the "Kiss", we have to treat the "Jim Date" as the same, albeit an incomplete episode, so we don't have all the information.
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The problem is, you're comparing two completely different forms of media. An episode of a series contains all the information that is relevant for that episode, if not the series. You have that information. The problem with a comic is that it isn't an episode, but rather a slice of an episode, so we don't know everything about what is happening.
This seems to be the greatest non-argument I've come across in some time. You're arguing totally at cross purposes IMHO.
One person has said "I haven't enjoyed what I've read so far", and so far all of your replies have been interesting and arguably TBI (True But Irrelevant).
Honestly, I don't see how any of your points counter the original simple observation of not having enjoyed the arc so far. If the person making that statement had said "... and I'm never reading the comic again" then maybe what you're saying would be relevant, but they didn't.
So one person hasn't enjoyed the arc so far. Just let it go. :-P
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My point was, and still is, every tale exists for the sole purpose of being told, be it for good or ill. It doesn't matter if its the greatest piece of literature or the most error filled piece in history, the tale itself is not wasted, only the opportunity to know the tale. You guys must think the same because you're still here, you still want to know whats going to happen in this tale.
Cool, so you admit that it is possible that QC might not be the most riveting thing in history? I doubt even Jeph thinks that or anything close to that of his own comic (though of course, we are all our own worst critics).
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My point was, and still is, every tale exists for the sole purpose of being told, be it for good or ill. It doesn't matter if its the greatest piece of literature or the most error filled piece in history, the tale itself is not wasted, only the opportunity to know the tale. You guys must think the same because you're still here, you still want to know whats going to happen in this tale.
Cool, so you admit that it is possible that QC might not be the most riveting thing in history? I doubt even Jeph thinks that or anything close to that of his own comic (though of course, we are all our own worst critics).
Oh, I will admit that some parts are literally painful to read through, especially the breakup arc. But at the same time its the mark of someone trying to improve their ability to tell a story, and that alone is enough for me to keep reading. I'll take the good and I'll take the bad, because the story is there.
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The problem is, you're comparing two completely different forms of media. An episode of a series contains all the information that is relevant for that episode, if not the series. You have that information. The problem with a comic is that it isn't an episode, but rather a slice of an episode, so we don't know everything about what is happening. Just as the "Talk" storyline could have been considered an episode, or the "Kiss", we have to treat the "Jim Date" as the same, albeit an incomplete episode, so we don't have all the information.
When we are kicked in the face, we don't have all of the information of whether or not, in the future, we'll actually appreciate having been kicked in the face. Maybe we were being a pompous jerk and this was the wakeup call. It would still be hard to say that, objectively, kicks in the face are therefore worth it, and therefore that we shouldn't ask the kicker not to kick us again.
(Disclaimer: I like this story arc. I don't think of it as violence being done to me. :-P)
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Next stop for Dora - Tai's Party.
...You know something? I think you're gonna be dead on.
She's going to see Tai, tell her about what happened, then last panel will be Jim helping his daughter clean up.
FRIDAY will be Dora finally running into Marten.
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Honestly, I don't see how any of your points counter the original simple observation of not having enjoyed the arc so far.
My intention was never to counter the original observation. I don't care if someone likes or dislikes the comic; I simply found Dog's statement to be odd and disagreeable.
My comments weren't aimed at you, sorry. I'm completely with you, actually. :)
I'll just bow out of this conversation now.
Next stop for Dora - Tai's Party.
...You know something? I think you're gonna be dead on.
She's going to see Tai, tell her about what happened, then last panel will be Jim helping his daughter clean up.
FRIDAY will be Dora finally running into Marten.
I reckon that it's more likely that Dora will run into Jim's ex-wife... or something else none of us have thought of. I doubt she would be in the mood for the extra drama of trying to walk into that party. But, well, we shall see.
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I'm hard pressed to find a situation in which the word 'breed' would ever come out of my mouth in casual dinner discussion, dating or otherwise...
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Not to detract too much from the argument, but has anyone else done the math? 41 - 13 = Dora is OLD (okay, so 28 isn't THAT old, but it feels like it because she doesn't look it at all).
I'm going to be 30 years old tomorrow and look like this (http://i.imgur.com/wagU3.jpg). You really can't go by appearances when trying to judge someone as "old" until the crows feet/gray hair start showing up.
I have crow's feet and I'm only 23. I also get told I look older than what I really am. So yeah, it's all a matter of opinion.
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Good God. I'd end the date too, if I were Dora. Marriage and breeding are two things (other than religion and politics) that I do NOT want to hear about on a first date.
heh, religion and politics are usually the first things I cover, get it over with right away so I don't waste time with someone I'm seriously incompatible with.
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I'm hard pressed to find a situation in which the word 'breed' would ever come out of my mouth in casual dinner discussion, dating or otherwise...
"Oh you have a dog? What breed is it?"
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Sometimes it's what you say. Sometimes it's how you say it. Sometimes it's when you say it. Jim hit the trifecta.
So very true. Breeding? That word carries such a barnyard connotation.
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So very true. Breeding? That word carries such a barnyard connotation.
Either that or Jane Austen (or what I like affectionately to refer to as "bonnet drama").
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Me too.
Those kind of 'jokes' are commonly a way of getting your intentions out there to test reactions; if it goes bad, just say "Kidding!"
Creeper.
Sometimes that's true, but in this case, the over-the-top phrasing - "breeding age" - makes it hard to imagine he didn't mean it as a joke. I don't understand why some people seem to think otherwise - I kind of think even Dora is just playing along.
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Did anyone else notice the art on the wall? Not the usual. Wonder if Jeph was expressing himself or just filling space.
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I'm hard pressed to find a situation in which the word 'breed' would ever come out of my mouth in casual dinner discussion, dating or otherwise...
"Oh you have a dog? What breed is it?"
ew, dogs
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But they're fuzzy!
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Yes, but they almost always suggest ridiculous substitute pronouns like "xur" and "hxe"*
Refering to a person as "it" is nearly universally offensive, but if you mean a drawing of a person, it would indicate the drawing, not the person.
*These may or may not be actual proposed ridiculous substitute pronouns, I just pulled them out of my ass.
hir and SHe are actual proposed ridiculous substitute pronouns.
I think Doug Hofstadter said it best:
Someone who...is trying to eliminate gender-laden pronouns from their speech altogether can try to rely on the word "they", but they will find themself in quite a pickle as soon as they try to use any reflexive verbal construction such as "the writer will paint themselves into a corner", and what's worse is that no matter how this person tries, they'll find that they can't extricate themselves gracefully, and consequently he or she will just flail around, making his or her sentence so awkward that s/he wis/hes s/he had never become conscious of these issues of sexism. Obviously, using "they" just carries you from the frying pan into the fire, as you have merely exchanged a male-female ambiguity for a singular-plural ambiguity. The only advantage to this ploy is, I suppose, that there is/are, to my knowledge, no group(s) actively struggling for equality between singular and plural.
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Not to detract too much from the argument, but has anyone else done the math? 41 - 13 = Dora is OLD (okay, so 28 isn't THAT old, but it feels like it because she doesn't look it at all).
I'm going to be 30 years old tomorrow and look like this (http://i.imgur.com/wagU3.jpg). You really can't go by appearances when trying to judge someone as "old" until the crows feet/gray hair start showing up.
I have crow's feet and I'm only 23. I also get told I look older than what I really am. So yeah, it's all a matter of opinion.
I stand 6'5" tall, medium build, and am 26 years old. I still get carded at bars and restaurants.
Perfect example: Last year, I'm out with friends celebrating a birthday party, and there's 15-20 of us at the table. I watch as the waitress goes around taking drink orders, and when she comes to me, she asks to see my ID after I order a rum and coke. I was one of the last to order, and I was the only who got carded. Everyone else at the table was within a couple years of my age (me 25 at the time) and over 21.
Hell, there've been a few instances where I've almost taken out my military ID for a second ID-check at some bars when I see the bouncer raise an eyebrow as he looks at my driver's license (and I have my pilot's license on tertiary reserve). I really, really do not understand how and why most people think I'm years younger than I actually am.
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People pretty much started assuming I was an adult as soon as I grew the unkempt beard of a savage. To this day people start thinking I'm some pubescent highschooler when I'm cleanshaven.
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watching the streaming channel (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/questionable-content-video), it looks like today we'll have a taste of the SMIF party with Hanners and Marigold... :-o
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Not to detract too much from the argument, but has anyone else done the math? 41 - 13 = Dora is OLD (okay, so 28 isn't THAT old, but it feels like it because she doesn't look it at all).
I'm going to be 30 years old tomorrow and look like this (http://i.imgur.com/wagU3.jpg). You really can't go by appearances when trying to judge someone as "old" until the crows feet/gray hair start showing up.
I have crow's feet and I'm only 23. I also get told I look older than what I really am. So yeah, it's all a matter of opinion.
I stand 6'5" tall, medium build, and am 26 years old. I still get carded at bars and restaurants.
I'm 28. I get told pretty often that I still look 19. (I don't, but I do look to be in my early 20s.) Whenever I'm in a group of early 20-somethings, they are always shocked when I tell them how old I am, and apparently often think I am younger than they are.
A month ago I went to get dinner with someone who was a former student of mine, and I got carded and he didn't. (He was kind of pissed off about that, haha, he's only 22.)
Meanwhile, I've known people who looked to be in their mid-30s ever since they were 18. It really does all depend.
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People can misjudge ages at any stage of life; I'm often taken for ten or more years less than my age. Here's me last weekend (http://cassland.org/images/PuppyLick.JPG).
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And she is known to be one year younger than Sven(#337).
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This is me at 27 (https://redacted) (with someone who is perhaps closer to Jim's age). I dunno how old I look exactly, but I don't think I look older than Dora does. This is me at 28 btw (https://redacted). I think I haven't changed much in looks for the last half a decade.
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This is me at 27 (with someone who is perhaps closer to Jim's age). I dunno how old I look exactly, but I don't think I look older than Dora does. This is me at 28 btw. I think I haven't changed much in looks for the last half a decade.
(first pic lookie) Oh hey, you don't too bad for 27, I mean, men sometimes look (looks at second picture)................................OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
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Go ahead Marigold. Go ahead and dance.
You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
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This is me at 27 (with someone who is perhaps closer to Jim's age). I dunno how old I look exactly, but I don't think I look older than Dora does. This is me at 28 btw. I think I haven't changed much in looks for the last half a decade.
You definitely look good for 28. I'd actually put you at around 22 or 23, if not younger.
*Today's comic*
Wing-tits. That is all.
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Yeah, I usually have to specifically age myself up for work. When I started grad school (I was 25) people kept asking me if I was a freshman. I live near a university now and people keep assuming I'm still a student.
And awwwww, Marigold. Also where is Marten in this sea of girls?
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Curiously, Jeph sketched him into the last frame (on the right, in midair??), but then immediately removed him.
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People can misjudge ages at any stage of life; I'm often taken for ten or more years less than my age. Here's me last weekend (http://cassland.org/images/PuppyLick.JPG).
John Malkovich with hair?
EDIT: The rule #34 folks are going to have a field day with the last panel today.
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Good lord.. Hanners is so adorable.. I´m dazed.
Also im super psyched to see what Marten and Tai are up to. The last weeks have been very interesting at QC!!
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Oh for goodness sakes Hannelore! XD unhelpful!
Man do I feel today's comic.
I FEEL IT *pounds chest* in here
But actually dancing with strangers is easier for me than dancing in front of friends, so Hanners wouldn't be doing me any favors either
(Also I spy a party foul!)
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Go ahead Marigold. Go ahead and dance.
You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
Heh. Since I rediscovered the glorious Safety Dance I request it in clubs wherever I go :-D
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My initial response was "Go Marigold you can have fun!"
Then I saw whatever that was with the wings in it's breasts and was more "What the ...! Show me anywhere where that is a reasonable fashion choice."
Finally, I realized that such a place would be extremely uncomfortable for a person like me.
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Clearly you've never been to
Singapore a Gay Pride parade.
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Marigold wore such a nice dress that time she hung out at Marten's place. It makes me sad that she decided to wear hermit clothes to this party. I just gotta keep reminding myself that QC isn't a teen movie where the nerdy girls get transformed.
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My initial response was "Go Marigold you can have fun!"
Then I saw whatever that was with the wings in it's breasts and was more "What the ...! Show me anywhere where that is a reasonable fashion choice."
Finally, I realized that such a place would be extremely uncomfortable for a person like me.
Whups, it looks like somebody's GOM is showing.
The place where my girl and I go dancing has a strict no-drinks-on-the-dance-floor policy.
I LOVE the text on the tank top on girl in the first panel, stage left.
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And is that Cosette spilling her drink in the second panel?
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Marigold wore such a nice dress that time she hung out at Marten's place. It makes me sad that she decided to wear hermit clothes to this party. I just gotta keep reminding myself that QC isn't a teen movie where the nerdy girls get transformed.
Don't worry, she will. When Jeph decides the time is right.
It was what, 4 or 5 years strips of strips before Faye started to settle down. Marigold has only been in the comic for 2 years. Her time will come.
Realize that she IS at the party. That is HELLA improvement already.
QC is not a 1/2 hour sitcom where all the problems are solved just after the last commercial break. Jeph does most of the final work at the last moment. Even he doesn't know ahead of time where the story/characters will take him.
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And is that Cosette spilling her drink in the second panel?
Don't think so. The nose is wrong.
Besides, the rule of funny would require that if Cosette spills her drink, it would be ON Steve.
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... or Marten
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The age thing...
I just had my driver's license redone, a 4 year interval ordeal. I was staring at the two of them, then suddenly realized why I looked so different.
The old one was before my daughter got sick. I now have a grey beard.
Damn.
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I actually had to do a double-take to make sure that wasn't Dora in the first panel. The lip piercing/tatt and barrette made it evident it wasn't.
It looks like Raven is behind Angel-wings dude (dude?) in the last panel.
As for our dynamic duo: Hannelore, you're not really helping, here.
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I think that's just our Miss OCD'awwww's "See?/Yay! You are having fun!" expression, maybe helped along a bit by the contents of the party cup.
Unless it's not.
Also, I like Jeph's use of shadow to pick our dynamic duo out from the surrounding party people.
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I've never been carded my entire life. And I think it has something to do with the very strong stubble I get even a couple of hours after I shave. The major downside to that is people thinking I'm in my mid-30s.
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4th panel Marigold face is one of the cutest I've seen from her- that sheepish smile is freaking adorable. Like...."I think I might possibly be enjoying this!"
Now if she could only channel this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1597) outside of her bedroom :-P
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...Dora?!
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I meant to say this earlier too - girl in pink shirt has AWESOME HAIR (of course ymmv :lol: )
I'm always so jealous of ppl that can pull off mohawks and major dying, my hair's too thin/fine for that since my thyroid condition kicked in, if i tried to treat it like the canvas I want it'd all fall out xP
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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaari. And Hannelore, being funny and cute. :D
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You know, for whatever reason, I completely forgot what Tai usually meant when she says the word "party." Yeah, we've been hearing about this party for weeks, so it should have occurred to me sooner. When she invited Marten, I thought it'd be something much more low key and casual. But this... the pounding beat, the stench of alcohol and sweat and other substances, the grinding and gratuitous makeouts... it doesn't strike me as Marten's kind of scene.
I think I'd have bounced out in the first fifteen minutes and wouldn't fault Marten for doing the same.
People can misjudge ages at any stage of life; I'm often taken for ten or more years less than my age. Here's me last weekend (http://cassland.org/images/PuppyLick.JPG).
No wonder the responsible adult alarm goes off when you're in the area. You look like a respectable gentleman who knows a thing or two about the real world.
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Like an older version of Joe Pantoliano? :mrgreen:
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Huh. Suddenly I see Marten's prospects dropping by about 78% percent. This is just a theory guys so bare with me.
...
I'm thinking to myself that, this is a party that Tai threw, correct? Which likely means she invited all her friends. It is suddenly hard-pressed to think that Tai has many friends who are straight. Tai seems to me like someone who is completely and utterly hedonistic when she went to college, so she didn't try to make many friends before trying to get many lovers and playthings. She's tired of that lifestyle now obviously, but it's just hard to imagine that Tai is friends with many straight single people. Looking at the ambiance of the party, it would seem very gay-friendly, which is really nice, but not for any purpose that Marten is looking for. The party probably has a few bisexual peeps, and a whole people who swing the other way completely. (Looking at you, purple Mohawk girl, and Blonde 'Wings' Guy. :wink: ) To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl, I really don't see him having much success unless we get some strange revelation that Marten himself is bi and Friday ends with Angus and Faye talking only to turn their heads in shock and see Marten being kissed (or kissing) some guy.
Just some thoughts.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
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Marten!
On the prowl!!
That's a good one!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I would LOVE to see Marten make out with another guy. Just sayin'.
If I recall, he's thought about it before, even if jokingly.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
I think he meant the only one we know. (Other than Tai, but "prowling" doesn't take a lot of time for her.)
Of course, there only appears to be one guy here we don't know, and I'm kinda wondering if it isn't Scott... almost certainly not. Too young and too hipsterish. But maybe if Marten still has the Princess top, they could compare notes.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
You know what I mean. :laugh: Okay, not on the prowl uh...
on the... Walk?
On the stroll?
:psyduck:
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I would LOVE to see Marten make out with another guy. Just sayin'.
If I recall, he's thought about it before, even if jokingly.
Not in the comic, that I can think of - the incident with Padma and Steve debunks it well enough, I'd say. There was a strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1386) that Jeph himself modified (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/1386alternate.png) as a joke (if you're thinking of the Marten and Steve one), but not as part of the comic itself.
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I would LOVE to see Marten make out with another guy. Just sayin'.
If I recall, he's thought about it before, even if jokingly.
Not in the comic, that I can think of - the incident with Padma and Steve debunks it well enough, I'd say. There was a strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1386) that Jeph himself modified (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/1386alternate.png) as a joke (if you're thinking of the Marten and Steve one), but not as part of the comic itself.
He did chime in a little quickly on the "Sven has a cute butt" discussion a while back that got Dora really ticked post-fake-Hannerdate.
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I would LOVE to see Marten make out with another guy. Just sayin'.
If I recall, he's thought about it before, even if jokingly.
Not in the comic, that I can think of - the incident with Padma and Steve debunks it well enough, I'd say. There was a strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1386) that Jeph himself modified (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/1386alternate.png) as a joke (if you're thinking of the Marten and Steve one), but not as part of the comic itself.
Pretty sure he meant this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1024).
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But look at the title of that one...
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Go ahead Marigold. Go ahead and dance.
You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
Heh. Since I rediscovered the glorious Safety Dance I request it in clubs wherever I go :-D
I wish the clubs here would play Safety Dance. I like dancing but loathe most modern dance music. :psyduck:
Marigold is so cute in the fourth panel. She tries but Hanners does not help.
Also nice character design on the woman with the purple mohawk. I really like the design for some reason.
*Edit: I thought that was the same dress Hanners wore on her fake-date with Sven but it's different. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1762
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I think Sven has a way of making straight guys question their sexuality. : p
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Go ahead Marigold. Go ahead and dance.
You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
Heh. Since I rediscovered the glorious Safety Dance I request it in clubs wherever I go :-D
I wish the clubs here would play Safety Dance. I like dancing but loathe most modern dance music. :psyduck:
I hear you. My friends used to drag to places where you´d only have electro/minimal and so on.. sooo, find some nice indie type of club that looks ratty and run down :-)
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I would LOVE to see Marten make out with another guy. Just sayin'.
If I recall, he's thought about it before, even if jokingly.
Not in the comic, that I can think of - the incident with Padma and Steve debunks it well enough, I'd say. There was a strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1386) that Jeph himself modified (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/1386alternate.png) as a joke (if you're thinking of the Marten and Steve one), but not as part of the comic itself.
again, time for the after-spittake windex. thank you.
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But look at the title of that one...
I just took that as meaning he was expecting someone to draw what he's describing.
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I'm thinking to myself that, this is a party that Tai threw, correct? Which likely means she invited all her friends. It is suddenly hard-pressed to think that Tai has many friends who are straight.
Incorrect (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1933)
Tai : "We're throwing a big end-of-the-semester party. Wanna come?"
So probably most of the Smif campus will be there. I think it's a tad far-fetched to say they are ALL lesbians.
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Perhaps TinPenguin
But given the nature of the crowd so far, I wouldn't be surprised about the make-up of those at Tai's party.
Dawwww. Marigold is cute at that moment. I love Hanners face in the last panel too.
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Today's poll results;
Never assume, Jim. It only leads to trouble. 0 (0%)
Dora being kinda understanding? Welp, I'm definitely terrified. 2 (3.1%)
Hello parental cliches for describing their kids. 1 (1.6%)
Dora might be right with the maths, but I still wouldn't trust her accounting. 4 (6.3%)
Jim. Step One: Open Mouth. Step Two: Insert Foot. 29 (45.3%)
CHECK PLEASE! 10 (15.6%)
No Jim, it wasn't a joke. It was stupid. 9 (14.1%)
Awww, no dessert... 9 (14.1%)
Total votes: 64
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Rereading comic #1368 totally makes it sound as if Steve and Marten when to college together.
It's been mentioned that Marten went to college in California, right? Do any schools there get enough snow to partake in a sport like Speed Beer?
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Marten and Steve kissed on a dare once (mentioned in 1639).
Was Marigirl blushing because she was having a good time, or because she was uncomfortable with the PDA in front of her?
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More the first. I think she was blushing because she was uncomfortable that Hanners was aware of her having a good time and was looking at her with that eagerly encouraging "look-you-can-do-it-really-when-you-try" smile
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Every teen/college party I ever went to, I would just dig straight into the bottles of the hard stuff. Burn all those germs away!
(This is one of many reasons I wasn't invited to too many.)
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Stop creepin', Hanners.
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The "We" of "We're" means "All of my gay friends."
I find this idea that Tai couldn't possibly have any other straight friends, and that Marten is somehow unique in his status as a straight friend of Tai's, to be bizarre, to say the very least. Marten isn't that special.
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Tova, I thought the imaged contained in that "incorrect (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/daschakal/tumblr_lk9j6gisDv1qjre66o1_400.gif)" link of mine would be interpreted as a playful, not-at-all-serious counter to your archive-hunting, but now you know for certain that I was just messing with you! Next time, I'll try to add an oooooobviously before the means, or use something italic of a similar nature to remove any doubts in future posts.
No promises, though! If I don't tattoo the reminder on my body, I might not remember.
I didn't click on it so, yeah, ok. :roll:
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...Dora?!
Nope, not her. Look at the lips.
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Hee! And awww. Excellent strip, and a complete absence of dialog! That's kinda rare for QC. Maybe Hanners should ask Marigold to teach her how to dance (and no, I'm not suggesting any pairing, sheesh). Hanners might even figure out how to dance without spilling her drink, unlike that doof in panel 2. Dancing with a 3/4 full flimsy plastic cup without spilling is standard Kegger 101 (is that still a required course? :wink: ).
For some reason, I'm picturing Marten either holed up in a corner drinking and commiserating with Tai or gamely serving beverages instead of drinking them himself. I know it takes Jeph forever to draw these party scenes, but the results are well worth it.
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Apparently, I see Hatsune Miku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatsune_Miku) in the last panel.
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I also was wondering who the guy in the background of panel 2 is. He isn't one of the bros or Steve, as suggested, but he really looks familiar. I'm looking through the archives, but I keep getting distracted by the story, ha.
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I've never seen that guy before, doesn't look familiar at all.
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...Dora?!
Nope, not her. Look at the lips.
...her lips are out of sight.
(I meant the one kissing awesome-hair-girl, because they've got the same hair and ear tunnel, even though, probably not, if nothing else because the title says "meanwhile," and that skirt doesn't really look like her style. It's the kind of funny coincidence that makes me wonder if it's going to be a plot point, though.)
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Marigold's little secret is that she was going to wear the outfit she has on in my avatar, but she couldn't deal with being hit on by that many guys and girls in one night. :p
Oh, and because Tai would have taken one look and jumped her. Hehe.
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For some reason, I'm picturing Marten either holed up in a corner drinking and commiserating with Tai or gamely serving beverages instead of drinking them himself. I know it takes Jeph forever to draw these party scenes, but the results are well worth it.
In the few high school/college parties I attended that involved dancing, I usually ended up "running records" (this is 1964 we're talking about, folks - 45rpm Top Forty) and occasionally serving drinks.
Not a time I want to relive :-(
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
You know what I mean. :laugh: Okay, not on the prowl uh...
on the... Walk?
On the stroll?
:psyduck:
On the amble?
On the saunter?
:-D
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Marigold wore such a nice dress that time she hung out at Marten's place. It makes me sad that she decided to wear hermit clothes to this party. I just gotta keep reminding myself that QC isn't a teen movie where the nerdy girls get transformed.
I wouldn't wear a nice dress to a student party; it would just be asking for it to be ruined. Hannelore probably wouldn't have the experience to know this (I don't think we've ever heard that she went to college), but perhaps Marigold has.
More the first. I think she was blushing because she was uncomfortable that Hanners was aware of her having a good time and was looking at her with that eagerly encouraging "look-you-can-do-it-really-when-you-try" smile
Yes. Though Hanners is having her usual problem with smiling in a non-disturbing manner.
And Marten on the prowl? A Three Toed Sloth winning the Olympic 100 metre sprint would be more probable.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
You know what I mean. :laugh: Okay, not on the prowl uh...
on the... Walk?
On the stroll?
:psyduck:
On the amble?
On the saunter?
:-D
On the meander.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
You know what I mean. :laugh: Okay, not on the prowl uh...
on the... Walk?
On the stroll?
:psyduck:
On the amble?
On the saunter?
:-D
On the meander.
On the Patrol.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
You know what I mean. :laugh: Okay, not on the prowl uh...
on the... Walk?
On the stroll?
:psyduck:
On the amble?
On the saunter?
:-D
On the meander.
On the Patrol.
On the cat walk...wait no.
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Marigold wore such a nice dress that time she hung out at Marten's place. It makes me sad that she decided to wear hermit clothes to this party. I just gotta keep reminding myself that QC isn't a teen movie where the nerdy girls get transformed.
I wouldn't wear a nice dress to a student party; it would just be asking for it to be ruined. Hannelore probably wouldn't have the experience to know this (I don't think we've ever heard that she went to college), but perhaps Marigold has.
The same goes for brand new white shirts, or new shirts in general. In fact the more expensive the shirt is, the greater the probablity of someone vomiting on it, or a drink being spilled on it the first time you wear it at a college party.
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I would LOVE to see Marten make out with another guy. Just sayin'.
If I recall, he's thought about it before, even if jokingly.
Not in the comic, that I can think of - the incident with Padma and Steve debunks it well enough, I'd say. There was a strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1386) that Jeph himself modified (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/1386alternate.png) as a joke (if you're thinking of the Marten and Steve one), but not as part of the comic itself.
Pretty sure he meant this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1024).
There was also this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=365) comic, though it was not in a joking manner.
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Hannelore probably wouldn't have the experience to know this (I don't think we've ever heard that she went to college), but perhaps Marigold has.
In strip 596 she talks about how she "got through college", but on Formspring she said she didn't go to college. Rather than admit that Jeph might have made a mistake on a minor point, we can hypothesize that she has a college-level education implemented with tutors.
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To that end, with Marten being the only person here at this party on the prowl,
I almost spat tea at the screen when I read that.
You know what I mean. :laugh: Okay, not on the prowl uh...
on the... Walk?
On the stroll?
:psyduck:
On the amble?
On the saunter?
:-D
On the meander.
On the Patrol.
On the cat walk...wait no.
On the limp?
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You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
Heh. Since I rediscovered the glorious Safety Dance I request it in clubs wherever I go :-D
Which version? (http://vimeo.com/11478051)
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Um - this sounds like it could be not-a-joke. He needs to stop joking like this.
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Dang, Jim! You yank on Dora's chain any harder it's gonna snap in like fourteen places!!!!!
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Dora off her guard is pretty funny, I think.
Very!
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Divorce can be a tedious and drawn-out process, and dating before the decree absolute (or even the earlier decree nisi) arrives is entirely likely, and commonplace I'd say.
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Well, I no longer think it's likely they'll end up in bed together-Dora is still so uncomfortable with even being touched by Jim that he'll be lucky if he can get a goodnight peck on the cheek in. It's like Dora's been channeling Hannelore, at least as far as Jim's touch is concerned.
And yeah, his "jokes" aren't helping matters any, he really needs to quit it if he wants a second date. Seems to me he's been out of the dating game a long while, hence his being so bad at it (which stands to reason if he's just coming out of a long-standing marriage).
EDIT: Also, dating before the divorce is declared final may be common, but the way things are going here, if it turns out he wasn't joking about that it may be the final straw that makes Dora run away screaming into the night, never to talk to Jim again.
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Well, I no longer think it's likely they'll end up in bed together
I'm more than a little surprised that you entertained the idea to begin with, honestly.
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Figured Jeph might do it to mess with the forums, to have everyone on it "caterwauling" as he said. But at this point that development would make no sense considering how the date's been going.
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But people do make really bad decisions (I mean Dora, not Jeph).
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Hmmm... I think I like this guy! He comes off as a bit of a creep, but seems harmless enough.
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But people do make really bad decisions (I mean Dora, not Jeph).
Fair point. I suppose it wasn't entirely inconceivable.
I guess I just didn't see it as at all likely, and figured that it would probably be some revelation that would provide the drama. This one may yet provoke a bit of caterwauling, who knows.
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"I'm joking, but it's also quite true." *Wink*
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Over here in Germany, law requires a couple to live separately for at least a year before they can be legally divorced. (That or they'd have to have really severe circumstances, for example violence in the family.) So I admit I completely failed to understand what the big deal is the first time I read the comic.
On a related note, I am going to my girlfriend's grad party today.
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Just adding to the Jim love here. Liked him since he was first introduced. It'll be interesting if he sticks around in some capacity for a while, it's a cool way of expanding and 'aging' the strip's social circle along with its characters (and author).
Then again, I've always been a fan of huge, complicated multi-generational comics...
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Pretty soon this'll be Something*Positive (http://www.somethingpositive.net/)...
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You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind...
Heh. Since I rediscovered the glorious Safety Dance I request it in clubs wherever I go :-D
Which version? (http://vimeo.com/11478051)
extended, of course!!
There´s also the live version which is brilliant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JsKlZaYNnM
In fact I like that one best because of the dancing : D
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"Awful little mewling poo-larvae" has to be phrase of the week.
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Wow, I'm surprised there isn't more upset over the possibility of Jim's divorce not being final. Having gone through one myself, I know how it is, but I guess I'm just still hopeful that being so affected by divorce is not just the status quo these days. Guess I shouldn't be surprised though.
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The thing is, the breakdown of my first marriage was complete and absolute the day it happened (there was a lot of working up to it, though). The fact that the legal and administrative matters then took some months was just a tedious process to be gone through, not something that prevented me moving on in my life - it was finished long before I reached the stage of making new plans, anyway.
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Why yes, Dora off her guard is pretty funny. Jeph should (and probably will) do more of it.
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Jeph's sense of humor seems almost better attuned to Faye. Of course Faye has father issues so...
Oh! Oh my... :-o
Then again, if Marten's mom happens to come to town....
:-D
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I can't decide if Jim's being creepy, has a bad sense of humor, or is just being a tool.
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Maybe his wife is divorcing him because of all the bad jokes?
I can just see how that explaination went over with the daughter.
Mom: "Oh sweetie, we're not getting divorced because of you."
Samantha: "Then why are you two getting divorced?"
Mom: "Your father's crappy jokes, I've had enough of them."
Samantha: :I
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If I ever get married, I can foresee being divorced for a similar reason.
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Over here in Germany, law requires a couple to live separately for at least a year before they can be legally divorced. (That or they'd have to have really severe circumstances, for example violence in the family.) So I admit I completely failed to understand what the big deal is the first time I read the comic.
Same here.
Was still easy to "get" compared to yesterdays comic, though. Even after reading the forum I still have no clue what it is all about.
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I think there's not been much freaking over Jim's still being married because it's not 100% if he was joking. He already made a joke about Dora being the right age for children so this doesn't seem much past him. It is fun to see Dora getting caught off-guard though.
Something about Dora's body language when Jim is touching her shoulder reminds me a lot of my younger self. Back when I was terrified (more terrified, at least) of physical contact and any time someone I was crushing on touched me my brain went to, "This should be nice and kind of is but this feels really weird and this is too far out of my comfort zone."
Dora probably doesn't feel completely like that but that's my personal projection. At least Jim knew to take his hand away, so he seems pretty sensitive to people when it counts and when his sense of humour doesn't get the better of him. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1682)
Unintentional adding to the Jim = Marten From The Future theory
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Is it just me or does Dora look very similar to Marten in this strip? Especially her face in panel 1 and 4b. If you compare her to Hanners' dream-creature (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1873) then the only difference I can see is that Marten's jaw is slightly more angular, it's if not creepy then at least somewhat unsettling. :psyduck:
Also yay for legitimate use of Psyduck on first post!
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Wow, I'm surprised there isn't more upset over the possibility of Jim's divorce not being final.
Because we weren't exposed to the circumstances of Jimmy's divorce, unlike Dora and her callous breakup with Marten.
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As much as I am diggin this date I kind of want to see more of Hanners GET HER KNEES FLEXIN AND HER ARMS T-REXIN 8D
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Yeah, I was also a bit disappointed we only got one party comic this week. Oh well, there's always next week, and the one we did get was fantastic.
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Is it just me or does Dora look very similar to Marten in this strip? Especially her face in panel 1 and 4b. If you compare her to Hanners' dream-creature (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1873) then the only difference I can see is that Marten's jaw is slightly more angular, it's if not creepy then at least somewhat unsettling. :psyduck:
Also yay for legitimate use of Psyduck on first post!
That's always been the case hasn't it? I thought that was the joke with those moments. Hanging a lampshade over the fact that this couple is basically a set of gender-swaps of eachother. Heaven knows I've mistaken one for the other on more than one occasion.
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Ahh Jim, ye have an interestin' sense o' humour there laddie.
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I can't decide if Jim's being creepy, has a bad sense of humor, or is just being a tool.
10% creep
80%bad sense of humor
20%tool
110% good addition to the cast
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Wow, I'm surprised there isn't more upset over the possibility of Jim's divorce not being final.
Because we weren't exposed to the circumstances of Jimmy's divorce, unlike Dora and her callous breakup with Marten.
What kind of upset should people be you think, even if we know the circumstances of the divorce? I guess if Jim's divorce was all Jim's fault?
I guess I've known plenty of separated people who've dated...a year is a long time to wait! Especially if the divorce was due to an affair or a change of heart in the other person...
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I think he was at least partially correct in responding to my sentiment, rather than my words.
Yeah, it's true we don't know the circumstances, and I can see how that might keep some of the craziness down. Also, the fact that is is fairly obviously a joke (according to the way I read the last panel, Jim's response is essentially "Now you're getting [my sense of humor]." It's just that in my short time here it seems like we don't need a lot of motivation to poke holes in the Dora/Jim boat. I guess he's won more of us over than I thought, and/or divorce has become common enough that understanding of the process has become commonplace, which is a sad commentary on our world, in my opinion.
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992 commented on how much Dora and Marten looked alike.
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Also 618 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=618) and 374 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=374).
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Poll results:
Lemon slice with your drink at a college party? Hanners is a lady of class. 14 (23.3%)
Cosette has a twin? 10 (16.7%)
Dance Dance Party - Mari-Chan edition 12 (20%)
And Hanners' creepy face has lost her some of that class... 8 (13.3%)
Also...Finally, its party time! 4 (6.7%)
Ah, college parties...Memories...Wait no, can't remember, too much alcohol 3 (5%)
This one time at a party... Story time folks! 3 (5%)
....Man, now I want a beer... 6 (10%)
Total votes: 60
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How is Jim being a tool? Because of the stupid jokes? He's nervous; this is the first date he's been on since his divorce. You say/do stupid things when you're nervous.
I liked how he immediately stopped touching Dora once he saw her discomfort. He didn't need to be told, just read the signs and took his arm off her. Personally, I think Jim loses more creepy points the more strips he's in.
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If he's being literal, he's being a tool.
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I don't know, seems to me if he's hitting her with all these "worst case scenarios" all at once on the first date and then none of them actually end up being true, it takes the pressure off anything else that may happen that is nowhere near as bad.
Still kind of a dick thing to do, though. Like that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philedelphia where Danny Devito's character tells his kids that their mom is dead, waiting a beat, then saying "No, actually, we're just getting a divorce".
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Over here in Germany, law requires a couple to live separately for at least a year before they can be legally divorced.
You know what'd be an interesting counter-law? Requiring a couple to live together for at least a year before they can be legally married.
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Did that. Two years, actually.
It didn't work out.
We got married anyway :-D
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If the divorce technically weren't final, I don't see the big deal. These proceedings can be messy, and by when you're living separately, have worked out arrangements with your children, and have a set date for finalizing it within a week, it seems like about the right time to get back on the horse (although in some cases you might be giving your partner a bargaining chip). Of course, he shouldn't be so flippant about something that might be true; this isn't like the "breeding age" crack he made before, where Dora was a bit foolish to take it seriously. And if it is true, he really shouldn't have responded "now you're getting the hang of it!"
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Over here in Germany, law requires a couple to live separately for at least a year before they can be legally divorced.
You know what'd be an interesting counter-law? Requiring a couple to live together for at least a year before they can be legally married.
I really do wish there were a law for this, actually - or at the very least, I wish it were part of the social code of conduct.
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If he's being literal, he's being a tool.
No, I don't think so.
She asked, he answered, how is that being a tool?
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Jim's not a tool, he's a CREEPER!!! Assign the right insulting terms to the right people, will you?
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Marigold (whom we know to have an attractive figure to some folks) is dancing at a party full of open minded lesbians/bisexuals.
And we're still paying attention to Dora and Jim. Why are the potentially hilarious sight gags ignored in favor of romances between clearly-destined-to-be-happy (i.e. Boring) folks?
My priorities are not fulfilled. I don't need fanservice, I just want some real awkward humor. And I was under the impression somehow that this comic was ALL ABOUT the awkward humor.
I know I'm unimportant, but seriously, wouldn't Marigold fending off a collegiate suitor be funny as heck? Jeph, go for the low hanging fruit. I'm depending on you.And drunk. Living in the land of microbrews has it's disadvantages.
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Good safety tip: don't post drunk.
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Eh, so Marigold fends off some drunk college girls at the party. Where's the suspense? We know nothing's going to happen there besides a moment or two of awkward humor. Then she'll go home hating herself 'cause all she could get to hit on her was drunk lesbians. No surprises there.
Dora and Jim though, is where the drama's at. What will happen between them? Will Jim put his foot in his mouth one too many times? Will Dora's creeper sense finally overwhelm her and force her to bail on the date? If not, will the level of awkward during the date convince her not to have another? SO many questions, SO much potential for drama. QC isn't just about the awkward humor anymore. The drama quotient started going up right around the time of Faye's "talk" with Marten about their future relationship and has been slowly but steadily rising ever since. It's more of a drama comic with moments of humor now.
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Jim, Jim, Jim... Its ok to make a girl laugh on a date, its expected, but you don't try to fecking break her brain!
Someone find a pin, we might need to do a hard reset before Monday.
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Btw, I was away all week and couldn't comment on it then, but the discussion on the singular they and the absurd alternate pronouns that try to replace it reminded me of this (http://xkcd.com/145).
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But 'they' which has been in use for centuries of patriarchal society isn't always the easiest. It implies that people only want to use non-gendered speech sometimes. We use 'he' and 'she' all the time, but is it really necessary unless you wanna bang the person or are selling tampons? I retort with this. (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html)
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I retort with this. (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html)
Do you indeed? Yes, I've read it before, and it is very clever. It is perhaps a shame that so clever and talented an individual employs his talents in being so massively condescending. It is an even greater shame that he seems to strike an chord with many men, or at least so i assume, since this piece is so often approvingly trotted out as if it were the last word on the matter.
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Uh, I don't know what last sentence means, either because of the way I'm reading it or because I'm not familiar with the Douglas-Hofstadter-referencing community. When I first read that essay-thing I thought it was kind of weird or condescending or whatever, but like, it was the '80s. I don't know if things were different then.
Also, even though the race thing is manipulative, it makes the idea of doing away with gender binary palatable. Like, we should be aware of the dangers of "separate but equal" (oh hot damn, more racial references). I just don't think that a singular gender-neutral pronoun is absurd. People who want the singular 'they' are only ok with doing away with plurals because they think it's never really going to happen.
And is it distasteful to compare sexism to racism? I would say no, because there's not an objective measure for how much oppression one group experiences. I think the idea is not to trivialise racism or say "look, people care about their rights but not ours!", it just makes people aware of what kind injustice they may be ignoring.
I'm sorry if I pointed out the obvious there and you still disagree. Is this the kind of thing that gets threads locked?
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There is no objection to thoughtful debate, in passing (indeed, I have contributed in this one). Serious debates go in the Discuss! forum - but you can't see that until you have 100 posts.
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It has not gotten personal, which is something that would have made it a problem if it had happened.
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I hope I'm not breaking the rules by chipping in for this. Just thought I'd say that I got referred to as "They" pretty recently and there wasn't any confusion about who the guy was talking about. Seemed to flow pretty naturally and since I'm not a linguist and don't really get the science of it that's all I can really think of that seems important. Can't see anyone I know using a term that they knew would require an explanation or sound dorkish when there's a more casual way of expressing their thoughts.
I mean, I'm not studied on the subject. Most of that article went right over my head. Didn't even recognize most of the terms he was talking about, so I'm not sure how much my thoughts are worth here but I just thought I'd share the story. I think I would have had to run a google search if the guy had called me xe or something.
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Seemed to flow pretty naturally
That's actually quite crucial. It is very hard to change language in any planned way, even in specialist areas, and to do it for something as ubiquitous as pronouns is simply not going to happen easily at all. So there is a considerable argument for accepting and encouraging the de facto solution which is a first step along the road, rather than rejecting it in favour of a radical change that is quite likely never to happen at all (but which might have more chance after a first step has been taken).
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"English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." - Anonymous
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"English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." - Anonymous
Oh, so that's where Diane Duane stole it.
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http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_Nicoll