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And here we go into the 90's. Trivia: Wednesday is the year I first hit the 'net running.
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Wednesday is the year I wore a blue beret on Cyprus.
Their first gig will likely be CoD -
Dora's already asked if they could play "Girl from Ipanema"
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Might be a late strip tonight - Jeph said he was a-gonna nap about an hour ago (just before midnight EDT).
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I'll start kindergarten on Wednesday. Just three weeks until I start college!
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Wednesday is when I got married, too.
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Mazel tov.
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Wednesday is when I got married for the second time (24 years after the first time).
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I was born on Wednesday. :oops:
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Born on Thursday in backwards/forwards time travelling land that this place seems to have become.
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I've had a few "zoned-out in public" moments. But some of them may or may not have been drug-related. Anyway, this really made me giggle, especially Hanners' expression in the second-to-last panel. :laugh:
Also, Toy Story came out on Friday. (I thought about mentioning something from my own life but Method of Madness already did kindergarten (though I start tuesday) and nothing else terribly interesting happened to me in that timeframe)
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Huzzah, I was born today!
And today's comic is hilarious. Coincidence? I think not yes.
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Wednesday will be my birthday! :D
Is it possible that we've had another time skip today? It seems about the right time for one...
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Today: excellent :D
Tomorrow: I start elementary school, yay :roll:
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I haven't really felt the whole "Hannelore is creepy" thing until today.
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And here we go into the 90's. Trivia: Wednesday is the year I first hit the 'net running.
And when I started high-school. Hanners and Marigold, the skipping records of QC. Come to think of it, I'm trying to remember if I've even heard a skipping record except in films etc. How long will it be before the metaphor loses any meaning?
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Huzzah, I was born today!
And today's comic is hilarious. Coincidence? I think not yes.
Happy birthday!
On Thursday I start high school, on crutches with a broken leg I got from falling off a trampoline at the Freshman/Senior Band Camp party.
omg like soooo humiliating
And today's comic, I SO relate :laugh: I am the master at zoning out mid-conversation
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C'mon Faye. Vulcan Boob Squish for Hanners, then prop her up in the corner. Marigold will get the message as soon as she's sure Hanners won't wander into traffic.
Also, movie night with Hanners and Marigold: "50 First Dates" and "Groundhog Day."
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C'mon Faye. Vulcan Boob Squish for Hanners, then prop her up in the corner.
Good idea.
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I'm seeing all these posts about Grade School starting for you guys. I feel old :psyduck:
Starting college on Wednesday, coincidentally.
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Tuesday will be the last time I attended college (didn't get enough credits for the Masters; forgot it was '92 not '94).
Wednesday will also be somewhat bittersweet, as it was the year I started to work for the state of Wisconsin as well.
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1991, the year I was born. *Just* early enough to still be part of the Millenial generation. :-)
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A little late to this game, but someone mentioned feeling old, so: My birth year was the Meeting on the Steps. Graduated from high school during the Haircut and the riff for "Enter Sandman" was played for my college graduation.
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1991, the year I was born. *Just* early enough to still be part of the Millenial generation. :-)
Unless generations are shorter than they used to be (or there's more overlap) I'm pretty sure the Millennial generation extends to the late '90s. Also, thanks for not calling it Generation Y, I hate that.
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Y all the hate?
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My birth comic reminds me of myself very much.
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Today's strip reminded me of this so much... especially the part at 4:20...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qfFZfzPAOg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qfFZfzPAOg)
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I will get married on Friday!
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Y all the hate?
It's lazy. All the other generation names have some sort of meaning, but then Generation X happened and someone decided "hey Y's after X, good enough".
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Also, thanks for not calling it Generation Y, I hate that.
The whole "Generation <whatever>" thing is a load of classist, culturally myopic, lazy-minded bullshit. It is essentially a bunch of educated, middle-class white people in rich countries nattering on about younger people from exactly the same background. About socially disadvantaged people or ethnic minorities in their own society, not to mention the millions growing up in countries outside their golden circle, they have nothing to say, beyond implying by omission that they do not matter.
Also, movie night with Hanners and Marigold: "50 First Dates" and "Groundhog Day."
Win!
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Temporal causality Loop
Where's The Doctor when you need him?
:-D
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The problem is that a police call box would be very out of place on the sidewalks of Northampton - in the QC-verse or any other one, for that matter.
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That first row of panels and the third row of panels, repeated about four times, would be hilarious.
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The problem is that a police call box would be very out of place on the sidewalks of Northampton - in the QC-verse or any other one, for that matter.
It's supposed to look out of place -- that's why everyone (mostly) ignores it! :-D
"It scans everything within ten-thousand kilometers, performs an eleven-dimensional analysis of how to best blend in with its surroundings....and then it makes itself look like a 1960's police box."
-- the Eleventh Doctor, regarding the TARDIS's Chameleon Circuit
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Deathmøle's first concert will be...
At Coffee of Doom, of course. - 13 (21.7%)
At The Secret Bakery. - 0 (0%)
Smif Auditorium. - 3 (5%)
That small theater down the block from CoD - 2 (3.3%)
At The Horrible Revelation. - 21 (35%)
MassMutual Center in Springfield. - 0 (0%)
Fenway Park! - 2 (3.3%)
Out on the sidewalk. - 2 (3.3%)
In Amir's mind. - 4 (6.7%)
Up at Hannerdad's space station. - 8 (13.3%)
HAH! Yeah, right, they'll never be "in concert". - 4 (6.7%)
At the local Waffle House. - 1 (1.7%)
Total Voters: 60
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Let's see here...
I'm in junior high tomorrow and starting high school on Friday.
And if you really want to feel old, you just have to realize that the people who graduated from high school this year weren't even born yet when Jurassic Park--a movie so technologically revolutionary that it changed the entire special effects industry and became a major cultural phenomenon--came out. That's an entire generation of people for whom Jurassic Park, if they bother to watch it at all, is just another movie full of stuff they've seen dozens of times, but less exciting. That fact, when juxtaposed with the fact that that movie blew the entire world's collective minds when it came out, makes me feel incredibly old.
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Today I started my elementary school.
And this week started off with sleep deprivation hijinks. I second DSL's idea and vote for the return of the Vulcan Boob Squish. Except we are going to need a double dose for Marigold and Hanners.
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Also, thanks for not calling it Generation Y, I hate that.
The whole "Generation <whatever>" thing is a load of classist, culturally myopic, lazy-minded bullshit. It is essentially a bunch of educated, middle-class white people in rich countries nattering on about younger people from exactly the same background. About socially disadvantaged people or ethnic minorities in their own society, not to mention the millions growing up in countries outside their golden circle, they have nothing to say, beyond implying by omission that they do not matter.
Also, movie night with Hanners and Marigold: "50 First Dates" and "Groundhog Day."
Win!
In all fairness, "Millennials" covers everyone regardless of ethnicity or social status who happened to be coming of age around the turn of the millennium. Also, that's only half win (the second half).
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The whole "Generation <whatever>" thing is a load of classist, culturally myopic, lazy-minded bullshit.
These terms have all passed me by; I have no idea who they are supposed to refer to*, and what implications they are supposed to carry. Somewhat unusually, I suspect I will lose absolutely nothing by keeping it this way.
* If asked, I might mumble something about the theme of some naff films.
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I quite like the terms, as when I see them in an article headline, they send a clear signal to me that I need not bother reading on.
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And here we go into the 90's. Trivia: Wednesday is the year I first hit the 'net running.
And when I started high-school. Hanners and Marigold, the skipping records of QC. Come to think of it, I'm trying to remember if I've even heard a skipping record except in films etc. How long will it be before the metaphor loses any meaning?
I dunno, vinyl records started becoming popular again around the time I was a senior in High School ('05). I also have friends who love to listen to more old school music on record players. So maybe it'll be a while before the metaphor loses all meaning. I've only ever heard a record actually skip twice in my whole life.... once when I was like six and I was trying to play something on my mom's old record player and once when I was in band in high school and my teacher was playing us a song we were learning.
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Let's see here...
I'm in junior high tomorrow and starting high school on Friday.
And if you really want to feel old, you just have to realize that the people who graduated from high school this year weren't even born yet when Jurassic Park--a movie so technologically revolutionary that it changed the entire special effects industry and became a major cultural phenomenon--came out. That's an entire generation of people for whom Jurassic Park, if they bother to watch it at all, is just another movie full of stuff they've seen dozens of times, but less exciting. That fact, when juxtaposed with the fact that that movie blew the entire world's collective minds when it came out, makes me feel incredibly old.
You know what made me feel old. I made a joke about how I went to high school with Michael Jordan. (I went to school with the name Michael Jordan... haha... I know not exactly the funniest joke in the world). The person I said this to, asked me who Michael Jordan was. And all I could think was... "But Space Jam!" Then I realized they had just been born when that movie came out. Now, I was only like nine when that movie came out, but I mean, it was a kids movie, and I loved it and I can't remember ever not knowing who Michael Jordan was. The worst part is they didn't figure out who I was talking about until I finally said "you know, the tall, bald, black man in those hanes commercials."
And on that note, today's comic was when I started kindergarten.
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So ... whos Michael Jordan ?
(I'm not exactly into sports ...)
Anyway, todays comic fits into my current life 100% :D only I dont play WoW (baeh) but Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.
Best. Game. Ever ! :D
Okay, it could have likewise brilliant PvP for total perfection. But until then, its the best PvE MMO out there.
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Wow, there's some age disparity in here :)
I can't wait for the scary future year comics, when people start posting stuff like "2045 - this is the year of zombie apocalypse", or "alien invasion", or "this is when internet predicted me to dieeeee :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o"
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And here we go into the 90's. Trivia: Wednesday is the year I first hit the 'net running.
And when I started high-school. Hanners and Marigold, the skipping records of QC. Come to think of it, I'm trying to remember if I've even heard a skipping record except in films etc. How long will it be before the metaphor loses any meaning?
when's the last time you saw someone put a cart before a horse?
the thing that messed with my head was when i realized that there were human beings in the world old enough to have a conversation with, who have never watched a movie on vhs or listened to a cassette tape, and probably never will. i'm too young to feel this old.
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(http://i.imgur.com/gpLUW.jpg)
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I can relate much more than I should to today's installment. :P
The question is, is that officially Marigold's name now? Marigold Louise Farmer? Or was Hannelore just making it up like Veronica was for Marten? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1835)
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J, that's awesome. Also, I think this is the first time Marigold's last name was confirmed. (Sure, there's her twitter, but I'd assumed that was her making a WoW joke rather than her name being a WoW joke)
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For comic #1992...
1. So now we know Marigold's full name is Marigold Louise Farmer. I wonder if her surname is intended as a pun, Mari-"gold" Farmer, like her WoW name is "MariGoldFarmer". But as a "normal" (whatever that term means) name, it is actually quite pretty.
2. For those unfamiliar: a "gold farmer" is the term for the parasitic scum of the MMO world (not exclusive to any single game either sadly) who spoil the enjoyment of an MMO game by trying to make RL money off in-game currencies &/or materials through various EULA-illegal and mass & automated player-harassing means. Were I ever to actually meet one in Real Life, I would beat them until a noticable quantity of their blood was spilled, pry their eyelids open, and spit in their corneas.
Then I might actually remember to get angry...
3. Sadly I have done what Marigold has. Sometimes via MMO play, more often with a book I have not yet finished for the first time through. "I will just read a few more chapters..." 15+ chapters and birds chirping at 0400-0500 later... :psyduck:
4. On an interesting character development note: I find it amusing and heart-warmingly ironic that Hannelore, who used to (and probably still does now & then) sleep over at Marten's on his couch, now gives the same service/concerns to Marigold on her couch. Especially with the previous thread posts about how the other QC cast are parental over Hanners. The "trickle down" effect, I suppose :wink: .
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You can't get much more parental than invoking someone's full name when they are in trouble.
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In regards to number two, Pendrake, I actually had less animosity towards the gold farmers and considerably more for the gold buyers. Although that was before I read the part about automated stuff and harassing. So...fuck both groups, I guess.
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Marigold Louise Farmer? Are her parents the Waltons?
Well I guess, not, because then her last name would be Walton.
Anyway...I think Marigold might have a problem (that I also have).
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Pssshhhh, if anyone's got the problem, it's Hanners; Going to sleep at one point in time then waking up at another? The devil take the thought.
But seriously, is she so sleep deprived that she doesn't even feel like time has passed when she does sleep? I mean, one panel's difference is five hours of sleep? That's surely a problem.
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Dang, band week is over. I enjoyed it a bit too much I guess.. sigh.
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I thought a goldfarmer was just somebody who performed mindless monotonous grinding of gold/items for a fee. Like an American pays a Korean a few dollars an hour to logon as them and do the boring stuff and gain them currency.
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Marigold Louise Farmer? Are her parents the Waltons?
Well I guess, not, because then her last name would be Walton.
And Louiiiiise
and her lover
so entwined
and these visions
of JOhanna
that conquer my miiiiind
:-)
I like the name.
I think middle names should as a rule be old-fashioned bordering on ridiculous :-D
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Other than confiscating her DS(?) what's Hanners gonna do?
Spankings are out of the question - although there are now dozens of people imagining same, and several who are busy making their sketches...
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I like the idea of "grounding" as a punishment for Marigold - wonder why she's even upset about it? :lol:
I like the idea of spanking better :evil:
In all seriousness though today's comic was my favorite in quite a while. Now that Dora and Marten's "relationship" is resolved it is glad to see some other characters involved in something besides just selling Dinosaur Espresso Machines or band practice. We haven't seen much of Faye and her SO lately either.
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So Faye and Marty may have nothing to worry about re: Hannelore and the creepy douches.
According to Neko Case as per an interview on "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me" it's a myth that Female singers get male groupies lining up to hit on them. Evidence that Neko Case should have scores of male groupies hitting on her:
(http://media.au.timeout.com/contentFiles/image/syd-features/large-neko-case.jpg)
Also check out her interview on Wait Wait... She is adorable nerdy. http://www.npr.org/2011/07/09/137688630/singer-songwriter-neko-case-plays-not-my-job (http://www.npr.org/2011/07/09/137688630/singer-songwriter-neko-case-plays-not-my-job)
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So Faye and Marty may have nothing to worry about re: Hannelore and the creepy douches.
According to Neko Case as per an interview on "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me" it's a myth that Female singers get male groupies lining up to hit on them. Evidence that Neko Case should have scores of male groupies hitting on her:
(http://media.au.timeout.com/contentFiles/image/syd-features/large-neko-case.jpg)
Also check out her interview on Wait Wait... She is adorable nerdy. http://www.npr.org/2011/07/09/137688630/singer-songwriter-neko-case-plays-not-my-job (http://www.npr.org/2011/07/09/137688630/singer-songwriter-neko-case-plays-not-my-job)
I beg to differ: http://jalopnik.com/5777372/ask-me-anything-neko-case-edition
Also, Hanners slept 5 hours? Is that normal for her?
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@musicalsoul and Andy147
Yeah, I was reading along like "Yeah, how could you not know Michael Jordan?" and then all of a sudden I was like "Space Jam?!?" Personally I probably won't ever forget watching his final Bulls championship as #23. That was a hell of an experience. I wish I could have actually been there, but even on TV it was fantastic. That was my favorite Bulls team by far.
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Apparently, Marigold was being a butt.
Also, Neko Case *rowr*
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Hannelore and the creepy douches.
... as Dave Barry would have written, "... which is also a great name for a band."
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The question is, is that officially Marigold's name now? Marigold Louise Farmer? Or was Hannelore just making it up like Veronica was for Marten? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1835)
Louise may in fact be Marigold's middle name, but "Louise" itself is frequently used in some circles as a generic catch-all middle name to be exclaimed in consternation when someone has crossed the line with some utterance or done something like what's in today's strip.
I'm thinking in particular of The Stephanie Miller Show (http://www.stephaniemiller.com), a liberal/progressive radio show syndicated by Dial Global. If someone on the show insinuates something about a political figure that's not supported by the record or veers off into unexpected language territory, they'll get called out by the host or the producer or both with a Louise in the middle of their name, male or female.
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Also, Hanners slept 5 hours? Is that normal for her?
For me it is... But that's because I'm on vacations. But when I start to study again I think it will just go up one or two hours.
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1. @Method of Madness... Gold buyers, in my opinion, are slothful people with more money than wisdom who are the manure fertilizer in which gold farmer "companies" grow from. However, gold buyers are generally only malign in that they perpetuate the cycle, where-as gold farmer "companies" actively disrupt a regular player's play and enjoyment of the game.
2. @Sluthy... "Gold Farmer" is a wide-spectrum term from those sweat shop masses and illegal third-party programs that automate the character in-game, to those who use multi-computer and e-bayed/hacked accounts with equally automated programs to spam players repeatedly with their "advertisements" to buy their "products & services." It is a constant war between the MMO game companies and the gold farmer "companies" in trying to block off such chat-spam & in-game mail spam traffic and finding ways to bypass such blocks.
3. Rather obviously, I feel very strongly about this, being a veteran & "traditional" MMO-player. Less emotionally speaking, I would have nothing against gold farmers were I left alone to play in (relative) peace. Yes, one "can" /ignore them, but that is the equivalent of trying to ignore an automated telemarker calling you at 0200, the phone still rings and you still have to get up block the call(s). I do not need/want such harassment during leisure time that I have set aside in my day/night and am paying a subscription for.
4. Anyway...getting back on track towards QC, considering we have seen Hanners stay awake for days upon a time, her getting short bursts of sleep seems appropriate for someone with her level of OCD and for being consistently drawn with bags under her eyes.
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What's the explanation for Hanners knowing Marigirl's full name?
Bonus points if your explanation involves something creepy.
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She had been stalking Marigold since Winslow first met with Momo.
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What's the explanation for Hanners knowing Marigirl's full name?
Bonus points if your explanation involves something creepy.
It was stitched into Marigold's underwear; Hanners found it when she was tidying up Mari's room.
That works, I think, but it's not very creepy…maybe if I noted that this is possibly the least clothing we've seen Hannelore wearing? Is that :psyduck: enough?
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Louise may in fact be Marigold's middle name, but "Louise" itself is frequently used in some circles as a generic catch-all middle name to be exclaimed in consternation when someone has crossed the line with some utterance or done something like what's in today's strip.
Geez Louise!
That looks odd written down...
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My middle name resembles Louise and I'm a guy.
I wonder what punishments Hanners will give Marigold. Although I don't think we would see any spankings soon.
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You can't get much more parental than invoking someone's full name when they are in trouble.
I knew I was in trouble when my mother addressed me by the formal form of my family title... :oops:
Hanners knows Marigold's middle name because she has Mari's apartment wired, just in case. Considering that Marigold is be pretty close to being a shut-in, electronic grounding would seem the only way to bring her down to earth. :roll:
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What's the explanation for Hanners knowing Marigirl's full name?
Bonus points if your explanation involves something creepy.
Will I get banned if I explain in in a complicated Yuri-ish type of setting only reserved for doujin sold at Comiket?
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So Faye and Marty may have nothing to worry about re: Hannelore and the creepy douches.
According to Neko Case as per an interview on "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me" it's a myth that Female singers get male groupies lining up to hit on them. Evidence that Neko Case should have scores of male groupies hitting on her:
(http://media.au.timeout.com/contentFiles/image/syd-features/large-neko-case.jpg)
Also check out her interview on Wait Wait... She is adorable nerdy. http://www.npr.org/2011/07/09/137688630/singer-songwriter-neko-case-plays-not-my-job (http://www.npr.org/2011/07/09/137688630/singer-songwriter-neko-case-plays-not-my-job)
I beg to differ: http://jalopnik.com/5777372/ask-me-anything-neko-case-edition
Also, Hanners slept 5 hours? Is that normal for her?
Anonymous douchebags, who fail at irony on an Internet comment stream, are not the same as having skinny indie-boy groupies to feed you grapes after gigs. Indeed, 'tis almost certain that if that guy actually went to one of Ms. Case's performances he would never even work up the nerve to actually try to get backstage, much less ask her out.
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What's the explanation for Hanners knowing Marigirl's full name?
Bonus points if your explanation involves something creepy.
Will I get banned if I explain in in a complicated Yuri-ish type of setting only reserved for doujin sold at Comiket?
Yes
And I expect Hanners will take away her allowance too.
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I figure she actually does know her full name. They've had a very close, almost sisterly relationship (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1816) since at least the breakup - I wouldn't be surprised if Hannelore could recite Marigold's PIN if you made her.
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You can't get much more parental than invoking someone's full name when they are in trouble.
I knew I was in trouble when my mother addressed me by the formal form of my family title... :oops:
Hanners knows Marigold's middle name because she has Mari's apartment wired, just in case. Considering that Marigold is be pretty close to being a shut-in, electronic grounding would seem the only way to bring her down to earth. :roll:
With that level of prep, that makes Hanners the goddam Batman.
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[...] electronic grounding would seem the only way to bring her down to earth. :roll:
And once again, the QC forums provide an outlet for puns.
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Hanners definitely has some weird wake-up times. 9:17? Part of me thinks she had an alarm set for 9:15 and slept through the first two minutes of the alarm.
Then again, that should have set Marigold off and make her put the DS away. Also, where did Hanners' pants go? They just...vanished. :psyduck:
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She also magically teleported in and out of bed between frames. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE.
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She also magically teleported in and out of bed between frames. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE.
Simple. She got up, went to check on Marigold, and yelled at her for not sleeping. Jeph simply opted to not show Hanners getting out of bed and walking out of her room.
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You can't get much more parental than invoking someone's full name when they are in trouble.
I knew I was in trouble when my mother addressed me by the formal form of my family title... :oops:
Hanners knows Marigold's middle name because she has Mari's apartment wired, just in case. Considering that Marigold is be pretty close to being a shut-in, electronic grounding would seem the only way to bring her down to earth. :roll:
With that level of prep, that makes Hanners the goddam Batman.
No. She's Pizza Girl. Didn't you get the memo?
EDIT: New poll up. Bonus points if you get some of the references.
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Heh... "extend it for a week".
You could HEAR the "Big No" all the way from Northampton to here...
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This gets better and better.
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Darn you, curiosity. Darn you all to heck. And back.
I had to look up that ringtone... and it's INCREDIBLY CUTE AND CATCHY. I'll probably be humming it for the next two months.
The OK Go video edited to match it absolutely cracked me up, though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cts7H-ONidQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cts7H-ONidQ)
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Hm...total nerd, partial shut-in, domineering father....Marigold is reminding me more and more of Amber from Shortpacked.
(don't tell Jeph I said that :angel:)
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You're thinking Tiberius, and even that's not right since his father was a stick in the mud.
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Lol, Mr. Farmer not only accepts Hanners' choice of punishment, but asks for an extension. And without even meeting Hanners in person, no less.
So, will Mr. Farmer become as mysterious as HannerDad, or will he actually make a future appearance?
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lol, nerds ^-^
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Aaaand I'm born! :D
Wait a second, why is it evening?
:psyduck:
WAIT.
They went to bed at four in the AFTERNOON? And Hannelore woke up at 9:17 in the EVENING?!
:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
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Well they'd been up well over 24 hours at that point.
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The curtains were drawn.
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The Chinese are out to take down Shoestore Websites in order to force us all to wear Kung Fu shoes. :-D
Cue the 'Wtihdrawl Symptoms Montage' for tomorrow.
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For comic #1993...
[Hanners]: Yes, I think so too. Have a nice evening!
1. Wait... "evening"? What time is it for Hanners & Marigold? or for Mr. Farmer? :?
2. For Marigold's ringtone: Nichijou Opening #2 (with lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m2E1rtNk3o). Definitely one of the stranger, if nerd-ier, things to refernce... (I certainly never heard of this before...)
3. Damn the "Reds," always trying to control the internets and our shoes :x .
4. I approve of stern Hanners, Jeph did a great job artwise in portraying that attitude in this strip.
5. I approve of Hannelore's nightie :evil: .
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Re: jwhouk's bonus challenge
Louise (well, we just learned about it)
Ann (???, sorry my lack of education shows)
Scarlett (Southern Belle, as in GWTW)
Maria (Italo-Swedish spelling for Mary, "= Miss" in Catholica)
Tiberi(on)us (Stick in the mud?)
Lovelace (Ada?)
Stephano+Kristin (lost me there)
Blodwyn (a white flower from Wales)
Sixtythree (sixty root nine?)
i (Pad, or "i, Robot")
Waffles (yummy euphemisms)
Jacques (Quebecois?)
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Hannelore's face in the 4th panel is new. I like it!
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She resembles a certain mother of hers.
But I guess it's not too hard to figure out who that is, is it?
:psyduck:
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Shoe website, eh? I can't help but feel Mr. Farmer runs one of those companies that commands legions of ill-grammared spambots to advertise free air jordans on every single unrelated forum on the internet.
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So, when does Hanners conscript Momo to the cause?
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So, Hanners just held a phone in her hand, and put it so close to her ear that all of the germs from Marigolds pants (and Marigold herself) are now on her head? This can only go wrong :)
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Shoe website, eh? I can't help but feel Mr. Farmer runs one of those companies that commands legions of ill-grammared spambots to advertise free air jordans on every single unrelated forum on the internet.
I wouldn't be surprised if the problem does turn out to be the Red Chinese....
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I dont get this poll. So my answer is Hanners ! :-D
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On the topic of the alarm, if I usually set my alarms for times like X:27 or X:12 because it just seems to wake me up better than setting it at a round time. If I set it a couple minutes earlier, I tend to watch the time for those couple of minutes and get up when it hits the round number. So if I set an alarm at X:30, actually wake up about X:32, I'm going to stare at the clock until X:35. It just gives an extra couple wake up minutes to the day. Also bus times being at X:38 and making short films has taught me to think in terms of individual minutes than in lumps of fives.
Back to comic:
I'd like met Mr. Farmer. His extending it shows he knows what his daughter is like or at least that she hasn't changed since she lived at home.
I also had to look up that ringtone and watch the OKGo. It's rather addicting.
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I dont get this poll. So my answer is Hanners ! :-D
You don't get it?
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While I don't agree with Marigolds constant video game playing as a healthy lifestyle choice, Hanners has no right to tell her how to live her life. She can ask Marigold to leave but that's about it, all this "grounding" stuff is silly nonsense.
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Sometimes friends have to intervene to protect us from ourselves.
Marigold's gaming habits are causing her harm. Hanners has a duty to take action to prevent this.
If Marigold feels this is unreasonable, she has the right to leave and do as she will, but I suspect that on some level, she knows that her habits are harmful, by submitting to Hanners's "punishment" she is taking steps to correct this, even if she is not ready to completely acknowledge the problem.
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I've seen less than half of those middle names... Who do you guys know the rest of them?
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What's the explanation for Hanners knowing Marigirl's full name?
Bonus points if your explanation involves something creepy.
It was stitched into Marigold's underwear; Hanners found it when she was tidying up Mari's room.
That works, I think, but it's not very creepy…maybe if I noted that this is possibly the least clothing we've seen Hannelore wearing? Is that :psyduck: enough?
creepy enough or not- i LOVE this explanation. I enjoy the little idiosyncrasies that our friends in QC have/develop and there is something endearing about the possibilities that Mari has labeled her underpants. :-P
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Hm...total nerd, partial shut-in, domineering father....Marigold is reminding me more and more of Amber from Shortpacked.
(don't tell Jeph I said that :angel:)
She looks nothing like Amber (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1550).
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You're thinking Tiberius, and even that's not right since his father was a stick in the mud.
That was intentional. ;)
Mr.Doctor: I made up many of the options, but I'm suspicious that some of them might be dead on for some of our characters. Like Faye, for example. You know that either mom or dad had some sort of GWTW fandom in them.
And I guessed that Hanner's dad would get to choose the middle name - which would mean choosing Mr. Babbage's SysAdmin (Ada Lovelace).
As for Steve: I'm willing to bet right now that his full name is Steven Stephano Stevens (or Stephenson). Kinda like Wilson on Home Improvement.
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I have no reason to, but I'm getting a kick out of imagining Marigold's dad as the Cave Johnson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9Sc88qreg) of online shoe retail.
Re: silly grounding nonsense. For me 1993 is funny for the same reason 1772 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1772) and 1473 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1473) are: silly characters being silly strip is a nice break every once in a while.
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Good to know I'm not the only Nichijou/Hyadain fan out there, lol. My friggin' husband hums that thing so much that I can't SLEEP for that song being stuck in my head. You know, maybe knowing that song is the source of Jeph's sleep problems...? lol
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Hanners is definitely channeling her mother here, especially in panel four. It looks good on her.
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Hanners is being a bit silly considering that SHE had apparently been up all night and was zoning out too. It's all very well to talk to your friends when they are making unhealthy choices, but if you're making the exact same choices... you look dumb. Would have been better if Mari had been the only one who was freaking out at the coffee shop. Might also have been better if her lifestyle was having any noticeable effects on her life. If she still has money for vidya games and overpriced espresso, then she can't be doing too bad.
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Hanners is being a bit silly considering that SHE had apparently been up all night and was zoning out too. It's all very well to talk to your friends when they are making unhealthy choices, but if you're making the exact same choices... you look dumb.
She's not - having hit her limit, she went home and had a long nap.
Whereas, having hit the same limit, Marigold followed Hanners home - ostensibly to take a nap - and played her DS instead. That's a step beyond Hanners' problem.
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You can't get much more parental than invoking someone's full name when they are in trouble.
I knew I was in trouble when my mother addressed me by the formal form of my family title... :oops:
Hanners knows Marigold's middle name because she has Mari's apartment wired, just in case. Considering that Marigold is be pretty close to being a shut-in, electronic grounding would seem the only way to bring her down to earth. :roll:
With that level of prep, that makes Hanners the goddam Batman.
No. She's Pizza Girl. Didn't you get the memo?
EDIT: New poll up. Bonus points if you get some of the references.
I go that memo, and you may be correct. Hanners likely doesn't need Alfred to look after the cave and keep it organized, and I must admit that her suit is not as "anatomically correct" as a particularly bad Batman costume.
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Hanners is being a bit silly considering that SHE had apparently been up all night and was zoning out too. It's all very well to talk to your friends when they are making unhealthy choices, but if you're making the exact same choices... you look dumb.
She's not - having hit her limit, she went home and had a long nap.
Whereas, having hit the same limit, Marigold followed Hanners home - ostensibly to take a nap - and played her DS instead. That's a step beyond Hanners' problem.
Did she? For all we know she woke up ten minutes ago and turned on her DS, so innocent till proven guilty.
Hanners is about the worst person to take advice from, from what I know she's living off her parents money and just does whatever. It doesn't translate to other people who don't have that security blanket.
Besides, if you take away her video games for a week, what will Marigold do? She won't branch out more, shell just read her books and watch TV more. An introvert will remain introverted unless you present activities to them. Now that I think about it, I can see this going to a "you have nothing to do so join the band oh crap you're awesome at it how convenient" plot.
I have no reason to, but I'm getting a kick out of imagining Marigold's dad as the Cave Johnson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9Sc88qreg) of online shoe retail.
I wish they had just called him J. J. Jameson since that's the character hes portraying. Hell, he's even voiced by the guy who plays him in the three movies.
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Hanners has a freelance business.
EDIT: and a W-2 type job at Coffee of Doom.
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Hanners better take away her phone too. She's likely to have games on there as well.
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Hanners better take away her phone too. She's likely to have games on there as well.
If Hannelore doesn't have a charger that fits, that's a self-correcting problem. Modern smartphones drain battery life like nothing else.
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Hanners does not live off her parents' money, this has been firmly established. She has actively refused to take money from her mother. She operates her own business AND works a job at CoD. Having rich parents does not preclude someone paying their own way in life.
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Heh, it's obvious that some people don't read the comics too carefully and make up their own stories.
Hanners clearly doesn't live off her parents' money. She has two jobs. Just because we're not seeing her doing the counting business in the comics doesn't mean she's not working on that anymore.
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I like how the forums response to a cute joke scene in a webcomic is to be appalled at the behavior of one or more characters.
I'm serious, has there been a time in the entire comic where someone wasn't bitching about SOMETHING another character did?
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I like how a few people's responses...
Sorry the, generalisation was unintended. I meant it more in the "Why is everything a moral quandary here to some people?".
Its like, we can't just enjoy a funny joke to some of the people here. I just, don't see why this has to be serious business. I wasn't referring to people who are obviously not taking it as serious business, just the fact that, at all times a significant portion of conversation on these threads is about how X is wrong or Y is a bitch etc etc.
For once I was expecting to come in and people just commenting on how amusing this whole interaction was. I was somewhat annoyed that it was once again a debate on how half the characters are being mean or wrong.
If it sounded like I was taking it out on the people uninvolved in doing this, I apologise, that was not the intention.
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Are you sure you have over a hundred posts? Because you sound like you're MUCH newer to this forum than that. :psyduck:
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We just have a couple of truly absorbed followers, that's all.
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I just, don't see why this has to be serious business.
But you joined the forum at the time of the breakup! Are you really comparing the way people are viewing the comic at present with the sort of thing that was going on in the forum at that time?
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Are you sure you have over a hundred posts? Because you sound like you're MUCH newer to this forum than that. :psyduck:
I go in and out. Mostly because I find that people take things way too seriously and are incredibly judgmental about things, and when they do it, makes me take them too seriously. So I rarely feel the need to post.
I've hung around the ustreams occasionally as well.
@pwhodges: I joined around the breakup, but I was a lurker for a LONG time before that, since the signups were broken and no one bothered to fix them until then. I'm not saying its as bad as it was then. But being not as bad, doesn't mean its not still annoying.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the problem does turn out to be the Red Chinese....
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i446/ZAL77449/red-guard-girl.jpg)
In Red China, the problem turns out to be you. :wink:
Tough love Hanners is tough!
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We just have a couple of truly absorbed followers, that's all.
I see what you did there
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I find that people take things way too seriously and are incredibly judgemental about things, and when they do it, makes me take them too seriously.
So when people take things too seriously, you take them too seriously.... It looks to me as if there's a loop there that you could break.
But being not as bad, doesn't mean its not still annoying.
There's no forum rule about being annoyingly serious, so long as it doesn't cause or incite trouble.
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@pwhodges: Yes, I am part of the problem in that. Its why I commented above that I rarely post. Its why I didn't post in defense of any character or even try to directly confront any person on the forums. I'm just stating that, I'm curious as to WHY some people feel the need to be constantly judgmental towards the actions (some of which are meant to be cute or just funny) of fictional characters.
Just a quick note to account for your edit: Where did I say that they should be punished? or that it was against the rules, or anything like that. All I said was that I found it annoying.
OF course, part of it could be, I'm just being grumpy. I've been on vicodin for some serious pain problems and its mostly left me either still in pain or loopy depending on how much I take, so yeah, just ignore my last few meandering complaint posts. :psyduck:
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*Raises a glass to the Emperor.*
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Just a quick note to account for your edit: Where did I say that they should be punished? or that it was against the rules, or anything like that. All I said was that I found it annoying.
You didn't; I was merely saying that at present any people who are annoying you are doing it within the rules.
As for why: well, one of the attractions of fiction in any form is that it throws a particular light on some aspect of the world. We often like fiction that relates to our own lives or world-views in some way, and for some people this becomes a kind of identification which then causes real upset when the fictional world parts company from their own.
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Jeph writes believable characters, so we treat them like real people.
Jeph writes them to be funny, which means they keep doing things that would be inadvisable or inappropriate in real life.
Put the two together, and you get people reacting vigorously to jokes in a webcomic.
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The coolest middle name in QC is:
Louise (Marigold) - 2 (3.2%)
Ann (Penelope) - 2 (3.2%) {Ann just seems like it'd be her middle name.}
Scarlett (Faye) - 9 (14.5%) {Frankly, my dear, her father didn't give a damn.}
Maria (Dora) - 0 (0%) {Watch - it's probably really something ultra-exotic, like Britt.}
Tiberion (Marten) - 12 (19.4%) {Not quite Tiberius, which may have been the compromise.}
Lovelace (Hannelore) - 15 (24.2%) {Ah, Mr. Babbage, someone got the joke!}
Stephano (Steve) - 1 (1.6%) {Steven Stephano Stephenson the Second.}
Kristin (Tai) - 2 (3.2%) {Wait: shouldn't we guess her last name, first?}
Raven (Blodwyn) - 13 (21%) {The only other one we actually know}
Sixtythree (Pintsize) - 1 (1.6%) {Pintsize Sixty-three Thousand}
i (Winslow) - 0 (0%) {Winslow i RoboPC, by Apple.}
Waffles. - 1 (1.6%) {Mandatory option.}
Jacques (he's hidden his real last name all along!) - 4 (6.5%) {His real last name is "Breathed".}
Total Voters: 62
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Had to vote for Kristin. It's even SPELLED right. Of course I'm nothing LIKE Tai, but hey.
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Between her hyphenated name and her tendency to say her first/last name, I've always assumed Hanners didn't have a middle name. I voted for Jeph, his full name is Jeph Jacques Leibowitz.
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Marigold is acting like a teenager, so Hanners is treating her like one. Notice that she's not fighting the grounding--she knows she needs it. She's irritable about it, but on a deeper level, she knows that Hanners is taking care of her.
Honestly? I'm a lot like Hanners in certain ways, and I would probably do the same to a friend like her. My best friend is a gamer, too, but he's usually a lot happier being around people and being outside. Gaming is good. But when you don't have much else to do, you go insane. This is truth. Marigold needs this intervention. Remember how much fun she had when she was offline? She enjoyed being around people and wearing a dress and being called pretty. If Hanners can get through to her, then she'll be much more apt to strike a balance between gaming and having an offline social life. Sometimes, people need tough love in order to see that they're being self-destructive (whether they're cutting, saying suicidal things, feeling sorry for themselves when they have people who care about them, or spending too much time online). I'm always more than happy to dispense tough love to my friends when they do things like that. And they're always proud of me for saying what they actually needed to hear because it makes them feel better and reminds them that I am not a doormat, that I can be their mother and friend when no one else will be honest with them.
Also, WoW is a social game. While it seems she doesn't have a lot of friends, I'd be willing to bet that she's made a lot of friends in her guild through working together and just chatting when they're not in a raid or instance. So do keep that in mind.
Still, she needs to get out more, and she knows it. She wants to go be around people, but she's not sure how to go about doing so. It's a hard transition, and Hanners has been through it and knows how to help her out.
Just let the characters do what they gotta do. It may be appalling or offensive to you, but this is what needs to happen for the characters and the plot. I speak from experience.
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its gone! :psyduck:
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Shoe website, eh? I can't help but feel Mr. Farmer runs one of those companies that commands legions of ill-grammared spambots to advertise free air jordans on every single unrelated forum on the internet.
I wouldn't be surprised if the problem does turn out to be the Red Chinese....
LITTLE RED SHOE BOOK!! LITTLE RED SHOE BOOK!! LITTLE RED SHOE BOOK!! LITTLE RED SHOE BOOK!!
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He sells RED WING Shoes, mayhap?
Movie night with Marigold Louise: The Man With One Red Shoe.
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um, Alus, I'm going to go with yes. Try a real girl next time.
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lol you guise you gotta go grab Google Goggles http://goggles.sneakygcr.net/ and go check out the front page
(also this thing is SO FUN
NSFW warning)
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Yay! Mechwarrior reference :-)
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Had to vote for Kristin. It's even SPELLED right. Of course I'm nothing LIKE Tai, but hey.
I guess I'll out myself as the other Kristin voter then. 99% for Hersh, and 1% because I like Tai, and know someone a bit like her.
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For comic #1994...
1. Looking at strip numbers and timing, unless we get some Guest Strips or if Jeph is smothered to death by a large fluffy white dog, comic Number 2000 should occur on a Friday. Will there be something special? or some millenial-turning weekend cliffhanger? Guess we will see... :?
2. Unsurprisingly, as most also anticipated, Hannelore has recruited Momo to her "stern parenting" cause. It will be interesting to see how Momo will prevent Marigold from finding a video game "fix."
3. While it is likely that the next strip(s) will be Marigold trying to feed her addiction, I personally would prefer to see Marigold going out and doing other things to try and get her mind off her video games. Perhaps hanging out at Coffee of Doom (or even trying out being a barista for a few days!), or visiting SMIF Library, or running into Sven again, or getting some actual sleep, or something completely different (but outside her apartment). Plenty of humor angles that does not involve Marigold acting like a drug addict, which after this strip I think is pretty much what she has become :( .
4. Or on a darker theme, she could run into Dale, who tempts her addiction with his WiFi laptop if only she makes a WoW Alliance character and run a few instance-Dungeons with him and his guildies... But I was never particularly fond or interested in that story-angle (Dale vs Marigold) anyway, and this is coming from a WoW-player.
5. I would only approve of Momo giving in to Marigold's $30,000 bribe if the Mitsubishi PX-3500 chassis is the equivalent of a "theorhetically possible" (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658) chassis... :evil:
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I like the angle of Marigold having addict-like symptoms after a day of the punishment. Like have her beat up Angus for forgetting to run the dishwasher.
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After the drama we've been through, it's quite enjoyable to read a story arc that just brings the funny.
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If I miight make a point, it isn't like the others, save Hannelore, have done a whole lot to reach out to Marigold beyond the first initial time they had her come to the bar with them. One time while at Coffee Of Doom Dora nearly bit her head off when Marigold essentially said that the website was decent given Doras lack of formal training. Hannelore comes to visit but by and large most of the others aren't coming out to see her, hell part of why she might enjoy WoW is that she at least has some people on there she might enjoy hanging out with or at least playing alongside. (Hell, before I quit WoW the big thing stopping me was just that I'd miss a few of the friends I'd made, so we ended up swapping numbers and then I did end up quitting.) I'm just saying here that part of it might just be that they generally haven't given Marigold a reason to come and hang out with them. Hannelores thing might be 'for her own good' but I could say the same thing about spreading dust over Hannelores floor or telling her she isn't allowed to clean for six weeks, after all the dirt won't kill her. But I seem to be the minority opinion here, so meh.
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5. I would only approve of Momo giving in to Marigold's $30,000 bribe if the Mitsubishi PX-3500 chassis is the equivalent of a "theorhetically possible" (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658) chassis... :evil:
Anime robot-girls with bangs and long ponytails? That would be a foot on the slippery slope that leads to Megatokyo... And what about the crashed shoe server?
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Ooh, good idea on the return of Dale. I could see that not going over so well, but to great comedic effect. Unlike you, I always liked the Dale/Marigold bits. I guess we'll have to wait and see though. My vote goes to that, even though this vote is really only valid in my head.
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The PX-3500 has dual ERPPCs and six medium lasers. It is NICE.
This made my day. :-D
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Yay! Mechwarrior reference :-)
The PX-3500 has dual ERPPCs and six medium lasers. It is NICE.
This made my day. :-D
Sounds like a proper loadout for a Marauder battlemech. Mmmm... Now it made my day, too. :D
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Today's comic had me doing a spit take with my cereal. I've really enjoyed this past week. I used to be able to relate to Marigold's character, mostly because I went to school for game design (or is it the other way around) anyways Hanners is a great friend. I cannot wait to see where this leads. I imagine maybe one strip with withdrawal symptoms with Momo not giving in and then seeing a new Marigold out in the world. This strip is largely my favorite part of my morning routine.
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Hannelores thing might be 'for her own good' but I could say the same thing about spreading dust over Hannelores floor or telling her she isn't allowed to clean for six weeks, after all the dirt won't kill her. But I seem to be the minority opinion here, so meh.
woa woa woa...I'm very lazy when it comes to clean up the dust from my room but 6 weeks is too friggin much even for a lazy ass like me.
1-2 weeks sounds far more reasonable specially if you need to take small steps at first.
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. Hannelores thing might be 'for her own good' but I could say the same thing about spreading dust over Hannelores floor or telling her she isn't allowed to clean for six weeks, after all the dirt won't kill her. But I seem to be the minority opinion here, so meh.
It is at least a minority of two instead of one. Of course it is possible Marigold will benefit from taking three days off from games, but Hanners is the last person who is in any position to tell her that. When she was being all dissaproving over the state of cleanliness in Mari's room I was fine with it because that's one example where Hanners is clearly in her element, but obessive/compulsive behaviour? She doesn't get to talk about that.
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Heh, it's obvious that some people don't read the comics too carefully and make up their own stories.
Hanners clearly doesn't live off her parents' money. She has two jobs. Just because we're not seeing her doing the counting business in the comics doesn't mean she's not working on that anymore.
That's why I said "from what I know". How long ago was that addressed? Ive read QC before the introduction of Hanners and her personality retcon, Iand I dont remember it being addressed. I do remember her not taking money from her mother, but since I wasn't sure how she was making money I could only assume. Even still, it doesn't change the fact that Hanners isn't someone I'd consider to be a good role model for how to live your life. She has her own issues.
However, Marigold's need to play games, even though Jeph was going for funny, is really quite sad. I didn't think it was that extreme. I do hope that Marigold finds other activities that get her up and moving.
I like how everyone considers me a troll for questioning things, namely their life choices as literally every character in QC has something troubling about their lives. The most stable character in QC as far as making something of herself besides Sven, Dora, is widely believed to need therapy because she dumped Marten, who in the real world would be kind of a loser. If Dora needs therapy, what does that say about the rest of the cast? When they tell each other that they aren't doing the right thing, it's like "who are you to talk?" and "how again is this your business?".
If everyone thinks I am trolling though, I will stop questioning plot lines and just keep my mouth shut.
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Meh. Who doesn't need therapy?
As for "making something of themselves".. they´re all twentysomethings.. I know tons of awesome people who still had no Idea what to do with themselves well past 30, so that´s hardly a point. I feel you annoy people, not because of your questioning the character's motives and such, but rather the strong generalizations you tend to spew.
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Heh, it's obvious that some people don't read the comics too carefully and make up their own stories.
Hanners clearly doesn't live off her parents' money. She has two jobs. Just because we're not seeing her doing the counting business in the comics doesn't mean she's not working on that anymore.
That's why I said "from what I know". How long ago was that addressed? Ive read QC before the introduction of Hanners and her personality retcon, Iand I dont remember it being addressed. I do remember her not taking money from her mother, but since I wasn't sure how she was making money I could only assume. Even still, it doesn't change the fact that Hanners isn't someone I'd consider to be a good role model for how to live your life. She has her own issues.
However, Marigold's need to play games, even though Jeph was going for funny, is really quite sad. I didn't think it was that extreme. I do hope that Marigold finds other activities that get her up and moving.
I like how everyone considers me a troll for questioning things, namely their life choices as literally every character in QC has something troubling about their lives. The most stable character in QC as far as making something of herself besides Sven, Dora, is widely believed to need therapy because she dumped Marten, who in the real world would be kind of a loser. If Dora needs therapy, what does that say about the rest of the cast? When they tell each other that they aren't doing the right thing, it's like "who are you to talk?" and "how again is this your business?".
If everyone thinks I am trolling though, I will stop questioning plot lines and just keep my mouth shit.
a loser in whos eyes. He gainfully employed, Has a fairly close circle of friends and doesn't partake in any thing that is overly negative. If that is a loser then i hope can be just as big a loser as him.
As for Dora its not because she dumped Marten that she needs to get therapy, It is the issues that caused the break up (her insecurities) of course thats not to say that marten didn't have his own part to play of course
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i doubt this (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1054) is the first mention of her "counting things for a living" but it's the first one i could find. Anyone else know when that was first brought up? Now I'm curious...
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i doubt this (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1054) is the first mention of her "counting things for a living" but it's the first one i could find. Anyone else know when that was first brought up? Now I'm curious...
Back when Marten first met her (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=523)
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Hanners counting stuff: Hanners' counting business. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=523)
Edit: Oops - a little late.
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If everyone thinks I am trolling though, I will stop questioning plot lines and just keep my mouth shut.
Keeping in mind the name of Questionable Content, I'm not sure if it isn't kind of redundant to question it's content. Or if the content would ever plan to head in any (what you'd see as) non-questionable direction.
But apart from that, you're fun to see.
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I like how everyone considers me a troll for questioning things
If you like it when people consider you a troll, THEN A TROLL THOU ART!
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i doubt this (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1054) is the first mention of her "counting things for a living" but it's the first one i could find. Anyone else know when that was first brought up? Now I'm curious...
Back when Marten first met her (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=523)
thanks :-)
Hanners counting stuff: Hanners' counting business. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=523)
Edit: Oops - a little late.
and thanks :-)
and holy crap it took me a second to realize that actually WAS Hanners.
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I think Hannelore is the perfect person to deliver the message because:
[list=1]- She is probably the only one who is to be close enough to Marigold for Marigold to listen.
- Those who say her experience with OCD bar her neglect one thing: as an OCD sufferer Hannelore is in a perfect position to recognise symptoms.
- Hannelore has made a lot of effort to try and get better (with some success) whereas Marigold is still in a state of denial.
- Self help groups wouldn't exist if mutual support from people at different stages of experiencing something couldn't help each other out.
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1. D'oh! I completely missed Jeph's comic comments below comic #1994! Guess that is what happens when one works the extended late-night shifts :cry: . Of course, now I want to see a sexy adult-sized Momo with ER-PPC's (Extended Range Particle Pulse Cannons, for those unfamiliar with BattleTech) and Medium Lasers...
2. And yes, the BattleTech reference was pretty good for the miniature gamer readers. BattleTech was never my particular cup of tea for gaming, but I enjoyed reading the BattleTech Universe itself because was very well written during its early eras. Unfortunately, the original owning company (FASA) lost control of their product; likewise, BattleTech's woes were compounded by later era horrible, horrible game writers and novelists.
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2. And yes, the BattleTech reference was pretty good for the miniature gamer readers. BattleTech was never my particular cup of tea for gaming, but I enjoyed reading the BattleTech Universe itself because was very well written during its early eras. Unfortunately, the original owning company (FASA) lost control of their product; likewise, BattleTech's woes were compounded by later era horrible, horrible game writers and novelists.
At least they didn't make a crappy movie!
I´m looking at you, Dungeons & Dragons :x
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Hannelores thing might be 'for her own good' but I could say the same thing about spreading dust over Hannelores floor or telling her she isn't allowed to clean for six weeks, after all the dirt won't kill her. But I seem to be the minority opinion here, so meh.
woa woa woa...I'm very lazy when it comes to clean up the dust from my room but 6 weeks is too friggin much even for a lazy ass like me.
1-2 weeks sounds far more reasonable specially if you need to take small steps at first.
Ok, fair enough 6 weeks was probably too much, but my point was similar. If someone did that to Hannelore they'd probably be seen as a bad person or something similar by most of the forumites, maybe iin part because of how popular Hannelore is. I still find the behavior kind of questionable, especially given that she isn't even offering to spend time with Marigold or something similar.
I think Hannelore is the perfect person to deliver the message because:
[list=1]- She is probably the only one who is to be close enough to Marigold for Marigold to listen.
- Those who say her experience with OCD bar her neglect one thing: as an OCD sufferer Hannelore is in a perfect position to recognise symptoms.
- Hannelore has made a lot of effort to try and get better (with some success) whereas Marigold is still in a state of denial.
- Self help groups wouldn't exist if mutual support from people at different stages of experiencing something couldn't help each other out.
A few things.
1) Indeed, but then she should also realize part of the issue is that Marigold has very few close friends, and isn't being invited to hang out with them etc. most of the time. The games are her main form of entertainment and 'grounding' her would have been like Dora, in one of her more motherly moments towards Hannelore, hiding all of her cleaning supplies after she was up all night cleaning.
2) Except that Marigolds problem isn't one of OCD, and I'm not saying that her OCD negates her ability to say anything, just that she would possible be violent if she was barred from cleaning for three days or perhaps even a week.
3) You act like playing video games is some kind of mental disorder. Yeah, her behavior in todays comic is reminiscent of an addict but that might also just be how someone would act with a break in routine. If Penelope had all her books impounded she might be willing to pay well to get access to a few of them and I doubt people would be scolding her for 'book addiction'.
4) Once again, Marigold is not experiencing OCD.
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The PX-3500 has dual ERPPCs and six medium lasers. It is NICE.
This made my day. :-D
mine two.
Sounds like a warhammer variant. I hope for clan tech :D.
@VonKleist speaking of crappy movies. have you seen the wh40k cgi movie.
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It hasn't been said directly by Hannelore, but one would think that being friends and spending time with each other on a regular basis would imply that Hanners isn't planning on just abandoning Marigold.
Also- i don't think anyone said Mari was having an issue with OCD- simply that Hanners attention to detail and over-analysis of things would help her in seeing a problem and figuring out a way that she thinks would help resolve it (at least to some degree).
I think most of us here don't think that gamers- even those who are intensely involved- have disorders. Just that maybe Mari's friends would like to see her break out of her shell and spend time with her a little more. I think they can see she's interested, but a little afraid of social interaction because she's not used to it (as seen in the party scene and her awkwardness in relation to pursuing Angus). In the grand scheme of things, a week really isn't much time away from a game, compared to the amount of progress that could be made.
BUT- if she just sits in her room with her thumb up her ass for the whole week, then Hanner's whole plan was for naught, in which case I will agree with you. Only time will tell.
edited for stupid spelling error :roll:
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Its been a lifetime or two since I have posted here but I just had to post and give major thumbs up to the Battletech\MechWarrior reference. :-D
I think though Marigold should go straight for the PX-5500 it has Quad ERPPC's, two Heavy X-Pulse lasers, and twin Clan Light Gauss Rifles along with an the sensor suite from a Raven.
btw Atlas 4 life. :-D :roll:
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Heh, it's obvious that some people don't read the comics too carefully and make up their own stories.
Hanners clearly doesn't live off her parents' money. She has two jobs. Just because we're not seeing her doing the counting business in the comics doesn't mean she's not working on that anymore.
That's why I said "from what I know". How long ago was that addressed? Ive read QC before the introduction of Hanners and her personality retcon, Iand I dont remember it being addressed. I do remember her not taking money from her mother, but since I wasn't sure how she was making money I could only assume. Even still, it doesn't change the fact that Hanners isn't someone I'd consider to be a good role model for how to live your life. She has her own issues.
However, Marigold's need to play games, even though Jeph was going for funny, is really quite sad. I didn't think it was that extreme. I do hope that Marigold finds other activities that get her up and moving.
I like how everyone considers me a troll for questioning things, namely their life choices as literally every character in QC has something troubling about their lives. The most stable character in QC as far as making something of herself besides Sven, Dora, is widely believed to need therapy because she dumped Marten, who in the real world would be kind of a loser. If Dora needs therapy, what does that say about the rest of the cast? When they tell each other that they aren't doing the right thing, it's like "who are you to talk?" and "how again is this your business?".
If everyone thinks I am trolling though, I will stop questioning plot lines and just keep my mouth shit.
a loser in whos eyes. He gainfully employed, Has a fairly close circle of friends and doesn't partake in any thing that is overly negative. If that is a loser then i hope can be just as big a loser as him.
As for Dora its not because she dumped Marten that she needs to get therapy, It is the issues that caused the break up (her insecurities) of course thats not to say that marten didn't have his own part to play of course
This has all been discussed in my other threads, the "Marten has no goals" thread and "does Dora really need therapy" thread. I won't rehash those topics here, but yes, a loser in my eyes. He seems to be improving as bringing back the band is something.
I like how everyone considers me a troll for questioning things
If you like it when people consider you a troll, THEN A TROLL THOU ART!
Thank you for ignoring the 'for questioning things' part of my sentence. I may have unagreeable opinions but I don't misquote people to insult them.
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Don't forget Dora's the one who made Mar-bear feel better (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1683) after learning the awful truth about Faye and Angus (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1684). Not to mention protecting her from Faye's snark (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1654) and Sven's c**k (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1656).
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The most stable character in QC as far as making something of herself besides Sven, Dora
Yeah... I totally forgot that work success = being a stable person.
Cool story bro.
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Hey folks, don't stray into exchanging insults.
- Having strong views, or views that you disagree with is not what defines a troll.
- Expressing what I might describe as "a protestant work ethic" does not make a troll either.
Please accept differences of opinion or viewpoint, and either express your disagreement in a neutral manner or present a reasoned argument in favour of your preference.
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Ok, fair enough 6 weeks was probably too much, but my point was similar. If someone did that to Hannelore they'd probably be seen as a bad person or something similar by most of the forumites, maybe iin part because of how popular Hannelore is. I still find the behavior kind of questionable, especially given that she isn't even offering to spend time with Marigold or something similar.
I have to disagree; while limiting Marigold to 3 days of no games may seem harsh to you, dumping dirt on hanners' floor is by no means similar. For one, that's Hanners' LIVING SPACE you're destroying. I'm a game freak, too, and not a neat freak, but I could easily survive the temporary game ban by, y'know, doing something ELSE as a hobby because that's what I'd need to do; dumping a bunch of dirt on my floor and telling me I'm not allowed to clean it for weeks would get you a colossal "WTF" from me, and at best a ban on ever coming over.
Also, since when is Hanners Marigold's friend-agent? Is Marigold so crippled by her shut-in nature that without her videogames, she is so helpless to require Hannelore to fill that time herself? She has her Yaoi, she has TV, and, oh yeah, she has new friends she could go see at CoD. She even has an Anthro-PC with her well-being in mind and her own personality. That in itself out to be more than enough interest for 3 days' worth. The punchline was played just fine if you ask me. ;)
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Hannelore's jobs are not difficult to find out about. They're documented on the wiki, with links to the strips that introduced them.
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This has all been discussed in my other threads, the "Marten has no goals" thread and "does Dora really need therapy" thread. I won't rehash those topics here, but yes, a loser in my eyes. He seems to be improving as bringing back the band is something.
Actually, if I may, the "Does Dora really need therapy" thread you're referencing began and ended with the same thing as is going on here - you believe the forumites think Dora needs therapy for dumping Marten, while the forumites collectively (back in that thread) suggested instead that it was for her insecurities that overtake her more rational thought processes. (Although I have to admit I'm curious as to why, if you didn't want to rehash those topics, did you bring them up out of the blue? If people wish to revisit them, they're free to, but it need not be revived here. ;) )
Back on topic, though, I do personally find it fair to have a character, who may have a more personal involvement, to be the one to talk to another character about an aspect they would like to change. Hanners is very much aware of Marigold's desire to be out with other people, and accepted. She knows Marigold would want a boyfriend based on her words and actions. Hanners knows what being the odd one out is like. If anyone is to be delivering that punishment, Hanners is that person; whether or not that punishment is needed, now that could be a matter of opinion. :)
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I have to disagree; while limiting Marigold to 3 days of no games may seem harsh to you, dumping dirt on hanners' floor is by no means similar. For one, that's Hanners' LIVING SPACE you're destroying. I'm a game freak, too, and not a neat freak, but I could easily survive the temporary game ban by, y'know, doing something ELSE as a hobby because that's what I'd need to do; dumping a bunch of dirt on my floor and telling me I'm not allowed to clean it for weeks would get you a colossal "WTF" from me, and at best a ban on ever coming over.
Like he said: You don't really need to throw some dirt on her house. But not clean it in a week (because seriously.. how awful can be a week in a place like hers that is so minimal) is a more reasonable thought tbh.
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Its been a lifetime or two since I have posted here but I just had to post and give major thumbs up to the Battletech\MechWarrior reference. :-D
I think though Marigold should go straight for the PX-5500 it has Quad ERPPC's, two Heavy X-Pulse lasers, and twin Clan Light Gauss Rifles along with an the sensor suite from a Raven.
btw Atlas 4 life. :-D :roll:
Pfft.
A Marauder could out-range it and outrun an Atlas. ;)
But if you're going for newer tech, I'd pit a Blood Asp's dual Gauss and quad heavy medium's against the best of the Inner Sphere any day.
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I have to disagree; while limiting Marigold to 3 days of no games may seem harsh to you, dumping dirt on hanners' floor is by no means similar. For one, that's Hanners' LIVING SPACE you're destroying. I'm a game freak, too, and not a neat freak, but I could easily survive the temporary game ban by, y'know, doing something ELSE as a hobby because that's what I'd need to do; dumping a bunch of dirt on my floor and telling me I'm not allowed to clean it for weeks would get you a colossal "WTF" from me, and at best a ban on ever coming over.
Like he said: You don't really need to throw some dirt on her house. But not clean it in a week (because seriously.. how awful can be a week in a place like hers that is so minimal) is a more reasonable thought tbh.
This is true. The issue I'd take with that, though is: why? To be clear, are we equating Hanners' OCD versus dirt with Marigold's gaming addiction?
Edit: After posting it and a few more random thoughts, equating the two actually does seem more sensible in the fact that both Hanners and Marigold are socially ... "off," for lack of a better term, and both would like to be not so "off" but neither has *quite* grasped that their OCD and Gaming, respectively, is really what's preventing them. Hanners went on a mock date, true, but we haven't seen much more come from that outing.
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I think Hannelore is the perfect person to deliver the message because:
[list=1]- She is probably the only one who is to be close enough to Marigold for Marigold to listen.
- Those who say her experience with OCD bar her neglect one thing: as an OCD sufferer Hannelore is in a perfect position to recognise symptoms.
- Hannelore has made a lot of effort to try and get better (with some success) whereas Marigold is still in a state of denial.
- Self help groups wouldn't exist if mutual support from people at different stages of experiencing something couldn't help each other out.
I agree with all those reasons, and I think it is also that, as with Jeph's description of 1473 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1473), Hannelore and Marigold are not as self-aware as the other characters and so oblivious to the slight silliness of Hanners "grounding" her. The precise use of that phrase does imply parental responsibility, 'doing this for your own good', 'harsh but fair', etc, and that's what Marigold needs. 'Intervention' sounds a lot more aggressive.
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To be clear, are we equating Hanners' OCD versus dirt with Marigold's gaming addiction?
Nah, I don't really like to make generalizations so I always try to look at someone's issues as just one individual case. Also... I think OCD is more of a serious issue than gaming addiction but that's just my opinion though.
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Don't give in Momo!This is natural withdrawal behavior, and you will only be feeding Marigold's addiction. Resist! RESIST!
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A more cruel and unusual punishment for Hanners would be to tell her to allow someone else to clean her house for a week.
Also, Marigold needs kind of the opposite of a grounding - an order to go outside!
But as a former WoW addict, I know how those compulsions to play and progress can make staying away from the game for a week pretty difficult (unless the physical opportunity to play is removed).
Hanners should take her out somewhere. She needs to find an alternative activity. The easiest way to drop a bad habit is to replace it with a healthier one.
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Meh. Who doesn't need therapy?
I would like to think nearly everyone.
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Hmm, Nick & Marla, perhaps a better question would be "Who wouldn't benefit from therapy?"
I can agree that not a lot of people actually need therapy (though there are some), but that generally most people would benefit from it. It does provide a certain something that can be, well, therapeutic.
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What's more, therapy can take many forms beyond "lying on the couch."
Anyway, I hardly think that pointing out the many and varied issues of the QC cast counts as "questioning the plot". It's more like "pointing out the bleeding obvious". It's kind of the central feature of the comic. It's been made fun of by at least one guest comic.* I have a vague idea that Jeph himself has commented on it, but I can't really recall. It's what makes the comic interesting, for me at least.
If it makes the comic annoying for you, then I wonder what keeps you reading? <--- serious question, I would be interested to know.
Complaining loudly that Marten hasn't sorted out his goals, to pick a prominent example, would seems to me the same as complaining that Calvin never outgrows his pet tiger, that Charlie Brown never kicks the football, or that the Coyote never catches the Road Runner. What story is left to tell after that?
* "hey guys, which female character am i? / am i the one with the crippling psychological problems / [Note at bottom: that's all of them do you get it]"
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Or 1266, with the punch line of the therapist paying Jeph for referrals.
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Dual ER-PPC's and six medium lasers? Yer gonna need a lot of heatsinks for that load-out... :-P
As for Hanners and Marigold both being socially 'off' -- I'd say that Marigold is a lot more socially awkward than Hannelore. I mean, way back when H's original appearance, she was a somewhat snarky but well-adjusted chick.
(I wonder if we'll ever see Hanners *back* on medication with that personality re-appearing...probably not, b/c quirky-neurotic-cute Hanners is more entertaining.) But Hannelore has always been a lot more willing to stretch boundaries -- joining in with beer sledding, karaoke, touching a toilet seat to show up her mom -- while Marigold seems to need that push.
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And who better to push her than Hanners? :D
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"that the Coyote never catches the Road Runner."
I know this is slightly off topic but Coyote did catch the Road Runner at least one time...however it was only after going through a series of pipes that made each one bigger and smaller. Coyote was giant and Road Runner was mini.
Other than that the point you made was very much so correct. I still can't believe all the arguing going on over this story arc. I mean its just good old cornball humor its both sweet and endearing. I for one have enjoyed this week thoroughly. Will MoMo give in? Will Marigold play her games? Will Hanners show up in the middle of the night for a surprise inspection? Tune in, in just a few hours for all this and more will be revealed. Same Bat time same; same bat channel.
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Wait, what'd he do when he caught the Road Runner?
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He holds up a giant sign saying "now that I have him, what do I do with him"... This is because he's to big to eat road runner. Its kind of anticlimactic but satisfies an itch at the same time.
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Will Hanners show up in the middle of the night for a surprise inspection?
That is so totally Friday's comic it's not even funny.
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1. D'oh! ...ER-PPC's (Extended Range Particle Pulse Cannons, for those unfamiliar with BattleTech) and Medium Lasers...
2. And yes, the BattleTech reference was pretty good for the miniature gamer readers. BattleTech was never my particular cup of tea for gaming, but I enjoyed reading the BattleTech Universe itself because was very well written during its early eras. Unfortunately, the original owning company (FASA) lost control of their product; likewise, BattleTech's woes were compounded by later era horrible, horrible game writers and novelists.
ahem, Particle Proyection Cannon. Yes, my day was also made by the MechWarrior reference (loving it since Mechwarrior 2 and The Warrior Trilogy). Proof that this webcomic just keeps getting awesomer.
and sorry for the creepy joke, I had no idea those werent welcome.
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He holds up a giant sign saying "now that I have him, what do I do with him"... This is because he's to big to eat road runner. Its kind of anticlimactic but satisfies an itch at the same time.
You have it backwards, unless they released a new episode. The Coyote is the one who gets small, not the Road Runner. He jumps on to his leg and hugs it with glee, then holds up a sign referring to the fact that he's too small to eat him.
So am I the only one that found Marigold's comment at the end depressing instead of funny? I know Jeph was going for funny, I get that, but she's incredibly desperate to play video games at the very beginning of her "grounding" and you see how serious her addiction really is. While the punishment is silly, it appears she really needs it.
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Actually, it was the reverse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJW7EF5aVk)... Wile E. Coyote was still miniature and Road Runner was back to normal size (thus a "giant" to Wile E. Coyote's perspective).
Of course, one of my personal favorites is when Wile E. Coyote (Genius) first verbally introduced himself and stated his intent to catch & eat Bugs Bunny. Standard Wile E Coyote (Super Genius! at that point) hilarity ensues.
P.S. Edit Add: stoutfiles beat me to it. /highfive for "classic" WB cartoons
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Of course, one of my personal favorites is when Wile E. Coyote (Genius) first verbally introduced himself and stated his intent to catch & eat Bugs Bunny. Standard Wile E Coyote (Super Genius! at that point) hilarity ensues.
A nice touch to that was that the coyote, depicted visually as a slavering moron, speaks with the plummy, high-cultured tone of a slumming intellectual. Those Termite Terrace folks were geniuses, to be sure. Soooooo-puh Geniuses.
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Well, I was gone for the better part of last week, and have finally caught up on both the comic and the forum. And, to revisit a popular topic of conversation, Friday's number (1995) is the year I got my Ph.D., after 7 years of grad school... which was after the 3 years to get my Master's, and a year teaching, where they convinced me to go back. I was the second oldest student in the department.
Other major year-events in my life ... first daughter born last Friday (90), second one born Wednesday (93). Married the Monday before last (86). Graduated (BS) two weeks ago (84)...
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So am I the only one that found Marigold's comment at the end depressing instead of funny? I know Jeph was going for funny, I get that, but she's incredibly desperate to play video games at the very beginning of her "grounding" and you see how serious her addiction really is. While the punishment is silly, it appears she really needs it.
Well, it's a fine line between comedy and pain, isn't it?
Speaking as a recovered WoW addict myself ... I recognised the compulsion to play, and I can certainly laugh about it. I thought it was pretty funny.
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Doesn't Marigold use those games as a source of income? This must be costing her $200 or so...
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Doesn't Marigold use those games as a source of income? This must be costing her $200 or so...
I don't recall that.
Just waiting for someone with considerably more archive-fu skills than I have to chime in now...
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Doesn't ring a bell here.
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She manages her dads web site for a living. WoW is her
professionhobby.
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WoW is her
professionhobbyunpaid part-time job. :)
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Meh. Who doesn't need therapy?
I would like to think nearly everyone.
I would say that therapy is not so much about how to be or live with yourself, which should not be necessary in general, but how to reconcile yourself with our present society's increasingly restrictive demands on our behaviour.
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3) You act like playing video games is some kind of mental disorder. Yeah, her behavior in todays comic is reminiscent of an addict but that might also just be how someone would act with a break in routine. If Penelope had all her books impounded she might be willing to pay well to get access to a few of them and I doubt people would be scolding her for 'book addiction'.
This isn't necessarily a rebuttal of your point. But my friends scold me for my book addiction regularly. Last year when we drew names for Christmas gifts, she told the guy who got my name that he was not allowed to get me any books or giftcards to bookstores.
When my birthday rolled around last month she nearly flipped her lid about the fact that I got b&n giftcards from people. If we go into a bookstore together, she will not let me buy more than one book no matter how good of deal I get. I probably read about three or four books month (which really... isn't that much).
I know I could go to a library, but none of the libraries around here have a very good selection of books. :-\
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I would say that therapy is not so much about how to be or live with yourself, which should not be necessary in general, but how to reconcile yourself with our present society's increasingly restrictive demands on our behaviour.
Hmmm.. I dunno. It´s rather how you put it, is it not?
You might go the same way by saying "oh, it´s not about how to reconcile yourself with society's increasingly restrictive demands on our behaviour, but how to get all the chemicals in your head into just the right mix so as not to feel blue" and still... feels hinky.
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3) You act like playing video games is some kind of mental disorder. Yeah, her behavior in todays comic is reminiscent of an addict but that might also just be how someone would act with a break in routine. If Penelope had all her books impounded she might be willing to pay well to get access to a few of them and I doubt people would be scolding her for 'book addiction'.
This isn't necessarily a rebuttal of your point. But my friends scold me for my book addiction regularly. Last year when we drew names for Christmas gifts, she told the guy who got my name that he was not allowed to get me any books or giftcards to bookstores.
When my birthday rolled around last month she nearly flipped her lid about the fact that I got b&n giftcards from people. If we go into a bookstore together, she will not let me buy more than one book no matter how good of deal I get. I probably read about three or four books month (which really... isn't that much).
I know I could go to a library, but none of the libraries around here have a very good selection of books. :-\
And this is why we have literacy issues in this country :-o
I should also clarify a bit, given how Marigold was acting, yeah, she might need to take a break and unplug a bit. But I think my other point does stand, if Hannelore had had another all nighter and was having trouble functioning due to lack of sleep and Dora, Marten or anyone else told her she was grounded from cleaning for three days she'd have a pretty severe reaction and the forum would likely vilify the person in question who said it. It also might help if anyone other than Hannelore ever tried dropping by, even if only just to say hello to Marigold or hang out with her, as it is she might be afraid of going out to hang out with them or do something because she might feel they are ambivalent about her company.
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This isn't necessarily a rebuttal of your point. But my friends scold me for my book addiction regularly. Last year when we drew names for Christmas gifts, she told the guy who got my name that he was not allowed to get me any books or giftcards to bookstores.
When my birthday rolled around last month she nearly flipped her lid about the fact that I got b&n giftcards from people. If we go into a bookstore together, she will not let me buy more than one book no matter how good of deal I get. I probably read about three or four books month (which really... isn't that much).
You need better friends that actually read books...or at the very least don't complain about somebody that does.
And this is why we have literacy issues in this country :-o
I lol'd hard.
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That´s really, really sad :|
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Thirty thousand for a robot chassis? That sounds like something really special. Not like this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658), surely? :lol:
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Thirty thousand for a robot chassis? That sounds like something really special. Not like this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658), surely? :lol:
that's exactly what I was thinking of! (just couldn't remember how far back it was to reference)
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You need better friends that actually read books...or at the very least don't complain about somebody that does.
Oh the main one who gets onto me about it reads a lot too. It was one of the things we bonded over when we first met. She just thinks I need to "get out there" more or something along those lines. She's one of my best friends so she does it out of love and concern that I'm "hiding" behind my books or whatever. But, it grates on my very last nerve sometimes.
And this is why we have literacy issues in this country :-o
I lol'd hard.
I also lol'd hard at the literacy comment. :-D
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I should also clarify a bit, given how Marigold was acting, yeah, she might need to take a break and unplug a bit. But I think my other point does stand, if Hannelore had had another all nighter and was having trouble functioning due to lack of sleep and Dora, Marten or anyone else told her she was grounded from cleaning for three days she'd have a pretty severe reaction and the forum would likely vilify the person in question who said it. It also might help if anyone other than Hannelore ever tried dropping by, even if only just to say hello to Marigold or hang out with her, as it is she might be afraid of going out to hang out with them or do something because she might feel they are ambivalent about her company.
I totally get where you're coming from. And you're probably right, people probably would vilify someone if they did that to Hannelore because she has serious neuroses. I personally wouldn't, because it might be something that could help her in the long run. I think Hannelore is just trying to help Marigold be a little less of a shut-in, but you're right that no one else ever seems to stop by to say hi to her or hang out with her. The one time Faye went over there to chill with Marigold it was really just an excuse to see Angus. And I definitely get the whole being worried about going out of the way to try and hang out with people who may or may not want your company. I grew up a very shy kid, and while I've mostly gotten over it, sometimes picking up the phone to call someone I've never called before still scares the living daylights out of me, because I'll be afraid they won't wanna talk to me.
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I just want to say that reading "Eel Handlings" creeped me the fuck out.
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I just want to say that reading "Eel Handlings" creeped me the fuck out.
Oh good, I was worried I was alone on that front. I did think it was kind of sweet how Marigold told Momo that she liked her how she was. Though I also am a bit surprised that AnthroPCs could get jobs. I mean I guess it makes sense, and implies that they have at least some semblance of rights, but since they can be purchased I'm also seeing big abuse potential.
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Though I also am a bit surprised that AnthroPCs could get jobs. I mean I guess it makes sense, and implies that they have at least some semblance of rights,...
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1900
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85m secs -- approx 2 3/4 years old: When I was a lot younger I calculated a year to be approx 31.6m secs.
{edit} I can't remember where it was but ISTR a strip in which Winslow and Pintsize discuss AnthoPCs getting the vote (which had just happened).
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Momo has ~97TB of storage?! :-o
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Edit: After posting it and a few more random thoughts, equating the two actually does seem more sensible in the fact that both Hanners and Marigold are socially ... "off," for lack of a better term, and both would like to be not so "off" but neither has *quite* grasped that their OCD and Gaming, respectively, is really what's preventing them. Hanners went on a mock date, true, but we haven't seen much more come from that outing.
Hanners has improved a lot in the time she's been introduced. She says before meeting Marten, she had no friends: http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1145 Now she has a group of friends and part-time job that involves constant customer service. Marigold hasn't been around nearly as long but she hasn't made near as much progress.
I'd agree that Hanners is the one mostly reaching out to Marigold and the rest of the group, while happy to hang out with her, don't go out of their ways to do so. Not saying they have to do that but Marigold probably should be trying as well. It's not as if she doesn't have people to hang out with or could just go to CoD to have a chat, assuming that's convenient for her.
I think since people are saying Hanners should take Marigold out to get her mind off games, this might lead to Marigold hanging out with the band. That could be interesting.
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Momo has ~97TB of storage?! :-o
I'd assume she has 128 TB maximal capacity.
The used up space is filled with hentai.
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Momo has ~97TB of storage?! :-o
Err, so what ?
The human brain, they say, has 200 TB RAM. So 97 TB seems to be about right for an artificial AI that needs to have enough power to act as if its an intelligent lifeform.
Your fascination reminds me of the guys who, about 15 years ago, have been super impressed by a machine that hat, whow, unbelievable 24 MB of RAM. When normal home computers had 4 or 8 MB of RAM.
But at the same time I was working all the time at unix work stations that had 64 MB of RAM and their fascination silently amused me quite a lot.
Today even the oldest and weakest computer I know of in my environment has 1 GB RAM (and is swapping a lot), my one year old notebook has 4 GB RAM (the lowest that model can have in the first place, and as notebook memory is extremely expensive, I'm not gonna get more than that) and my next computer will probably have 8 or 16 GB RAM.
And Harddisks are kind of stuck at 2 TB size since about 2 years or so, because they did not only hit a definition problem (cant boot from HDs larger than 2TB because many bios cant handle it, but they also hit a physical barrier and the future probably lies in SSDs which apparently get cheaper by the minute. My one year old notebook has a 256 GB SSD which, back then, cost 700 Euro. Nowadays you can already get the same size for half the price. 256 GB is not very much, by the way.
So yeah, I expect that in 10 to 20 years, 100 TB could be the normal storage size of home computers.
Also, about actually getting 97 TB of memory: We are already seeing 3 TB harddisks, so making a disk array that has 97 TB storage is no biggie. One 3 TB cost about 120 Euro right now, and with no redundancy you would need 33 of them, for a total of 33*120 = 3960 Euro. Lets also factor in that HD producers are computing their TBs in a creative way (1 TB = 1,000,000,000,000 Byte to them, while usually 1 TB = 1024*1024*1024*1024 Byte = 1,099,511,627,776 Byte), so thats another 10% we want on top (puts us at 36 HDs), and add that we of course want redundancy. Lets get that ZFS of Solaris and make an X3 array of X3 arrays, i.e. we need 3 more systems in it. So we get 9*9 disks now, which is 81, for a total cost of 81*120 = 9720 for the hard disks alone. Then we also need processing power to compute all the redundancy, and storage space etc, so lets double the price for the whole system, then we would need to pay just about 20,000 Euro for this now.
Yeah, more expensive than your average computer. But far from being beyond imagination.
Granted, we cant carry around such an array. But its save to assume that in 10 to 20 years, we WILL be able to carry around such amounts of data.
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I guess there's not really a '14 Elm Grove Ln' in Northampton....
Yes, I looked.
:oops:
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I just want to say that reading "Eel Handlings" creeped me the fuck out.
Oh good, I was worried I was alone on that front.
Seriously.. what is she going to do with the poor eels? put them on down her skirt like on that alternative version of one of the strips?? Ugh... :psyduck:
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Your fascination reminds me of the guys who, about 15 years ago, have been super impressed by a machine that hat, whow, unbelievable 24 MB of RAM. When normal home computers had 4 or 8 MB of RAM.
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Don't get me started on the changes in computer storage... I'm too old, as are a lot of us on the forum.
[GOM]I remember wondering how the hell I would ever fill a 10 KILO byte hard drive! [/GOM]
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[GOM]2 As a student I got to use Oxford University's computer - yes, singular. [/GOM]
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Aaaah, 1995... The year I had sex for the first time.
Mmmmmh, maybe I shouldn't post shit like that...
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I just looked on my hard drive: I actually have at least 66 documents/files that were created BEFORE 1995 on here.
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On the issue of the coyote...I stand partially corrected. Seeing as I had only seen the episode 1 time and that was years ago I'm not upset about it.
On today's comic, it shows the extent of Marigold's obsession, and her self awareness of the problem. I like it and think it'll present a great opportunity to explore her character more in depth and her growth could run parallel to Marten's.
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Dual ER-PPC's and six medium lasers? Yer gonna need a lot of heatsinks for that load-out... :-P
As for Hanners and Marigold both being socially 'off' -- I'd say that Marigold is a lot more socially awkward than Hannelore. I mean, way back when H's original appearance, she was a somewhat snarky but well-adjusted chick.
(I wonder if we'll ever see Hanners *back* on medication with that personality re-appearing...probably not, b/c quirky-neurotic-cute Hanners is more entertaining.) But Hannelore has always been a lot more willing to stretch boundaries -- joining in with beer sledding, karaoke, touching a toilet seat to show up her mom -- while Marigold seems to need that push.
Nah, she'd look silly with a neck beard.
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As for Hanners and Marigold both being socially 'off' -- I'd say that Marigold is a lot more socially awkward than Hannelore. I mean, way back when H's original appearance, she was a somewhat snarky but well-adjusted chick.
SHE WAS STALKING MARTEN.
Anyway... most of that personality seems to have been retconned out of existence.
3) You act like playing video games is some kind of mental disorder. Yeah, her behavior in todays comic is reminiscent of an addict but that might also just be how someone would act with a break in routine. If Penelope had all her books impounded she might be willing to pay well to get access to a few of them and I doubt people would be scolding her for 'book addiction'.
I know, right? Marigold has different interests and needs, therefore she's a freak. Charming.
I am glad we live in a world of tolerance. Allegedly.
This isn't necessarily a rebuttal of your point. But my friends scold me for my book addiction regularly. Last year when we drew names for Christmas gifts, she told the guy who got my name that he was not allowed to get me any books or giftcards to bookstores.
When my birthday rolled around last month she nearly flipped her lid about the fact that I got b&n giftcards from people. If we go into a bookstore together, she will not let me buy more than one book no matter how good of deal I get. I probably read about three or four books month (which really... isn't that much).
What I get from this anecdote is that your friend doesn't understand you and wants to exert an undue influence over your life. She doesn't sound very nice to me.
Was I supposed to get something different?
I now see this story was intended to start out the forum's "Kick Marigold" arc. Because she functions a little differently than most people, and because she has different drives, that's a problem. Society treats difference from the norm as pathological, yes.
Just to clarify, I don't think there's anything wrong with Marigold taking a short break from games even if it is an enforced break. Such things can be an interesting opportunity to explore the role of a given pastime in one's life. I also don't think there's anything wrong with her going right back to her normal ways afterwards. Occasionally pulling an all-nighter when you have no reason to get up early the next day is no big.
What I have a problem with is the sheer hypocrisy of Hannelore being the one to do it. That's just... so laughable.
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I would say that therapy is not so much about how to be or live with yourself, which should not be necessary in general, but how to reconcile yourself with our present society's increasingly restrictive demands on our behaviour.
Hmmm.. I dunno. It´s rather how you put it, is it not?
You might go the same way by saying "oh, it´s not about how to reconcile yourself with society's increasingly restrictive demands on our behaviour, but how to get all the chemicals in your head into just the right mix so as not to feel blue" and still... feels hinky.
Another way of expressing what I meant is this:
Society treats difference from the norm as pathological, yes.
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The situations are related, but not the same. Hannelore is driven by a brain chemistry problem, she is aware that it's a problem, and 709 shows that she can push herself to override it and diversify her experiences.
Marigold is doing things with long-term health consequences.
On another topic, there is an Elm Court Road in Northampton. We now have addresses for five characters. My urge for trivia collection is gratified. I've updated the wiki.
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Another way of expressing what I meant is this:
Society treats difference from the norm as pathological, yes.
You ever suffered from any mental disorder?
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The situations are related, but not the same. Hannelore is driven by a brain chemistry problem, she is aware that it's a problem, and 709 shows that she can push herself to override it and diversify her experiences.
Marigold is doing things with long-term health consequences.
On another topic, there is an Elm Court Road in Northampton. We now have addresses for five characters. My urge for trivia collection is gratified. I've updated the wiki.
Long term health consequences? Really? Yes, she's fairly sedentary, but again, a person who sat and read instead of the games, or watched TV/movies for the same durations that Marigold plays video games would be just as sedentary.
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I can't figure out whether this should be in a separate thread.
What kind of jobs can an AnthroPC hold?
They can make coffee (1843). Momo is a female character, so it's odd that she's not working at Coffee of Doom already.
She could probably tutor in Japanese.
If her social protocol database is sufficiently detailed, she might work at a charm school.
She could be like one of those therapy animals who visits nursing homes.
She could assist the disabled with light housework.
The Smif library had AnthroPCs, but there was nothing to suggest that they were employees.
Someone here who deserves credit for the idea, but whose name I have forgotten for the moment, has pointed out that jobs like Marten's are ripe for being taken over by robots. Which points a spotlight at the question, why haven't they? (Aside from the fact that it's a comic and designed to be funny rather than logical -- that's too dull an explanation to accept).
Is there discrimination? Marten was unwilling to drink coffee prepared by an AnthroPC. It wouldn't be the first case in history where there were lingering prejudices toward beings who were formerly property. Maybe Pintsize is just trying to live down to negative stereotypes of AnthroPCs.
EDIT: I was thinking specifically of Marigold's sleep deprivation. People keep finding more and more ways in which that causes health damage.
EDIT: Anyone else think the camera angles in this strip were a nice touch?
EDIT: Momo is 2.7 years old? That's getting up there by analogy with laptops, which have about a 3-year life cycle. She was said to be Sony's latest model, which implies slow releases on Sony's part.
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If one person didn't know about it, possibly others didn't:
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Oh look, a Suzumiya background. ^.^
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Someone here who deserves credit for the idea, but whose name I have forgotten for the moment, has pointed out that jobs like Marten's are ripe for being taken over by robots. Which points a spotlight at the question, why haven't they? (Aside from the fact that it's a comic and designed to be funny rather than logical...
Yeah, that would be me. I've always wondered why the robots weren't doing jobs around town as they wouldn't have the same problems employing a human would, but disregarded it as they're just there for comic relief and you aren't supposed to take them seriously. But now one is applying for a job, which causes a world of questions that have no rational answers. I'm going to try and avoid this one, it just ruins all logic in QC and kills it for me if I take it seriously.
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Another way of expressing what I meant is this:
Society treats difference from the norm as pathological, yes.
You ever suffered from any mental disorder?
Are you asking me or PWHodges? You're quoting PWHodges, but the last line in that quote is mine, so...?
In any case, I take pills to stop me from having too much anxiety. There might be a ten-dollar word for that, but... it escapes me right now. The truth of the matter is, at this point I take pills because I'm addicted to them. For all I know I might not need them for their original purpose anymore, but I tried to stop taking them once and the results were agonising. I can only assume that is what they call "withdrawal symptoms". I'm a little less than comfortable with that realization, frankly...
To go into the implications of that question, and that answer... I'm perfectly comfortable with this particular difference from the norm being pathologised. It isn't very nice, you see. If it was a difference from the norm with which I was comfortable and which caused no apparent problems in my life, I might feel different, but panic attacks are not pleasant. I most strongly recommend you never have one.
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Maybe more jobs are unionized in the QC world, and there are contractual barriers to hiring AnthroPCs?
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
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Maybe that computer is where the printer is attached?
Does anyone use hardcopy resumes any more?
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The coolest middle name in QC is:
Louise (Marigold) - 4 (4.5%)
Ann (Penelope) - 3 (3.4%)
Scarlett (Faye) - 14 (15.7%)
Maria (Dora) - 0 (0%)
Tiberion (Marten) - 21 (23.6%)
Lovelace (Hannelore) - 17 (19.1%)
Stephano (Steve) - 1 (1.1%)
Kristin (Tai) - 2 (2.2%)
Raven (Blodwyn) - 19 (21.3%)
Sixtythree (Pintsize) - 1 (1.1%)
i (Winslow) - 0 (0%)
Waffles. - 2 (2.2%)
Jacques (he's hidden his real last name all along!) - 5 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 89
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
Their role as computers is massively downplayed. Marigold uses a traditional computer to access WoW, when it would be far more logical for Momo to temporarily hook herself up to a monitor, keyboard and mouse for the duration of the game. Marten seems to never use Pintsize for any useful purpose, largely because he can't be trusted to perform it right. That particular problem doesn't seem to apply to Momo or Winslow (the only other AnthroPCs we're well acquainted with) but their owners seem to prefer using a traditional PC for most things too. Certainly I can't recall any time at which we saw anyone actually making use of an AnthroPC, can you?
They seem to function as expensive pets for the most part. Maybe Marigold uses Momo as a file repository, considering her frankly amazing amount of storage. I know technology is a bit more advanced in the world of QC, but that's a lot. The biggest hard drives currently on sale seem to be about 4TB, and you could maybe stuff about five of them into a single PC if you wanted to... which still gives Momo a capacity about five times what can reasonably be achieved in a single device in our world.
Not to mention she's a lot smaller than any device I can think of which could hold the estimated five giant hard drives.
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Here's my guess on the AnthroPC question:
You can access the internet on your Xbox 360, Wii or PS3, but for the more mundane stuff - e-mail, documents, bill paying, etc. - you just use your regular PC or laptop.
As for the whole property vs. person-hood: I suspect that the constitutional amendment was only for the state of Massachusetts, and not nationally. As far as we know, the US government is still using sentient robots for defense purposes (cue Agent Turing). Yes, the (rather liberally minded) state of MA may have given citizenship to APC's, but to the rest of the country (and world) they're still computers and property.
However, I suspect that the real answer to the whole question was answered by Donald P. Bellisario (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitleuvmtqrxe), and echoed by Joel Hodgson (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MST3KMantra).
Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
It's funnier that way.
Oh, yeah, there's the Rule of Funny, too... which I won't link to, since I've already sucked you into the Troper Vortex (muh-wah-ha-ha-HA...)
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Certainly I can't recall any time at which we saw anyone actually making use of an AnthroPC, can you?
There was that time when Marten was working on his music blog (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=466) via Pintsize. I guess it's open to debate whether that was "making use of an AnthroPC" :-)
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*puts on serious penguin hat* Actually using computers instead of the AnthroPCs isn't all that weird. Assuming that they (anthroPCs) are a fairly new thing most people would still be used to computers as normal. Plus, a lot of the features that would make the AnthroPCs practical as computers are either expensive addons (early on Faye mentioned stuff like hologram projectors and the like) or are impractical. Pintsize's mannerisms aside, just using him as an MP3 player would likely be hideously boring for him if all he could do was sit around, especially given that at his size he'd be awkward to carry. And to be blunt, most companies might be worried about their data being on something that can get angry and walk off if offended or on a whim so regular computers would probably be quite commonplace.
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Another way of expressing what I meant is this:
Society treats difference from the norm as pathological, yes.
You ever suffered from any mental disorder?
Well no, though I have had therapy; I've also been attacked by a mentally ill relative. The fact that some people are ill doesn't alter the point of what I said.
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*puts on serious penguin hat* Actually using computers instead of the AnthroPCs isn't all that weird. Assuming that they (anthroPCs) are a fairly new thing most people would still be used to computers as normal. Plus, a lot of the features that would make the AnthroPCs practical as computers are either expensive addons (early on Faye mentioned stuff like hologram projectors and the like) or are impractical. Pintsize's mannerisms aside, just using him as an MP3 player would likely be hideously boring for him if all he could do was sit around, especially given that at his size he'd be awkward to carry. And to be blunt, most companies might be worried about their data being on something that can get angry and walk off if offended or on a whim so regular computers would probably be quite commonplace.
Given that I basically agree with all your points, it raises an interesting question. What is the point of owning an AnthroPC? Is it what I already said, they make nice (if expensive) pets? Is there some other reason? Leaving aside such purely individual quirks as Pintsize's malevolence, Winslow's slight crush on his owner and Momo's tendency to produce electric shocks and eels, is there a useful purpose to owning one? If not a useful purpose, then can we say it's sufficently enjoyable for the owners? I can't imagine they are cheap...
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Winslow was used for Youtube access not long ago.
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*puts on serious penguin hat* Actually using computers instead of the AnthroPCs isn't all that weird. Assuming that they (anthroPCs) are a fairly new thing most people would still be used to computers as normal. Plus, a lot of the features that would make the AnthroPCs practical as computers are either expensive addons (early on Faye mentioned stuff like hologram projectors and the like) or are impractical. Pintsize's mannerisms aside, just using him as an MP3 player would likely be hideously boring for him if all he could do was sit around, especially given that at his size he'd be awkward to carry. And to be blunt, most companies might be worried about their data being on something that can get angry and walk off if offended or on a whim so regular computers would probably be quite commonplace.
Given that I basically agree with all your points, it raises an interesting question. What is the point of owning an AnthroPC? Is it what I already said, they make nice (if expensive) pets? Is there some other reason? Leaving aside such purely individual quirks as Pintsize's malevolence, Winslow's slight crush on his owner and Momo's tendency to produce electric shocks and eels, is there a useful purpose to owning one? If not a useful purpose, then can we say it's sufficently enjoyable for the owners? I can't imagine they are cheap...
Well actually I can think of several. I even pointed a few out WAAAAAAAY back when there was a thread discussing the origins of Pintsize (in terms of his behavior and the like). One big one is this, when I was in college having someone that could help independently in research while I worked, as well as helping me bounce ideas off of would be really nice. Not to mention the fact that there is that whole 'oh cool, a robot friend'. Even ignoring those, though, anthroPCs can do computer stuff, Hannelore as an example mostly just uses a normal computer to look at porn and the like both out of a respect for Winslow and because...well it would be like having a friend watch you watch porn, kind of awkward for people without personal issues. But if you want to listen to music, watch videos, or just converse with someone that can literally call on the whole of the internet to possibly produce stimulating ideas..well what else could you want? Plus, yeah many people might not have AnthroPCs (out of the cast 3 of 12 people have them, and in two of those cases they were probably pretty big purchases.) but I can certainly see the appeal.
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Long term health consequences? Really? Yes, she's fairly sedentary, but again, a person who sat and read instead of the games, or watched TV/movies for the same durations that Marigold plays video games would be just as sedentary.
And would suffer some of the same health consequences, except for the RSI and related muscular problems.
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Momo will be hired by Microsoft..
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/237878/can_you_do_real_work_with_the_30yearold_ibm_5150.html
Seriously.. what is she going to do with the poor eels? put them on down her skirt like on that alternative version of one of the strips?? Ugh... :psyduck:
It's a reference back to her first appearance (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1298).
Wait, she references "a model number" (HDC-4100X) in her first appearance, yet her "resume states another "model number" (Sony KawaiiPC). Am I missing something here?
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I suspect it's one of two things:
1. She has a different chassis, with the Japanese schoolgirl look, unlike her geisha-like outfit in that original cartoon, OR
2. Jeph just forgot.
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Hmm... my first thought was that she was "divorcing"/"emancipating" herself from Marigold by getting a job... I didn't realize "I'll get a job" was meant like that.
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Maybe it's got both a name and a model number, or maybe KawaiiPC is the product line.
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Okay, so I was wrong about the late-night inspection from Hanners. It still could happen, though. All depends on Jeph's mind.
Also, Momo writing a functional resume. Interesting. I'm curious as to where Jeph will take this.
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Ah come on, Momo, we like you the way you are :-(
Though I do wonder if the chassis in question is the one we saw when Momo dreamed of Sven...
In which case, if it is, then this could really go places.
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Though I do wonder if the chassis in question is the one we saw when Momo dreamed of Sven...
In which case, if it is, then this could really go places.
That was Sven? I looked at that particular strip a few days ago and I thought it was Angus. In any case, I really can't imagine that plot being allowed to develop very far. Even if Momo were to get a job, how long do you suppose it would take her to earn that much money? I'm assuming it would be well over a year, and considering QC time that is pretty much after we are all dead and gone to dust.
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Maybe the problem with employing AnthroPCs is the lack of opposable thumbs. Even a high end model like Momo-tan didn't get fingers until a quite recent update.
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Maybe the problem with employing AnthroPCs is the lack of opposable thumbs. Even a high end model like Momo-tan didn't get fingers until a quite recent update.
Who said anything about only AnthroPC's? Different, more efficient robots would be built for certain jobs; they would work 24/7 and never complain or want money, because they would be programmed that way. Just like a robot on a car assembly line in our world. Any human that does a simple labor job would have to worry about being replaced.
*puts on serious penguin hat* Actually using computers instead of the AnthroPCs isn't all that weird. Assuming that they (anthroPCs) are a fairly new thing most people would still be used to computers as normal. Plus, a lot of the features that would make the AnthroPCs practical as computers are either expensive addons (early on Faye mentioned stuff like hologram projectors and the like) or are impractical. Pintsize's mannerisms aside, just using him as an MP3 player would likely be hideously boring for him if all he could do was sit around, especially given that at his size he'd be awkward to carry. And to be blunt, most companies might be worried about their data being on something that can get angry and walk off if offended or on a whim so regular computers would probably be quite commonplace.
Given that I basically agree with all your points, it raises an interesting question. What is the point of owning an AnthroPC? Is it what I already said, they make nice (if expensive) pets? Is there some other reason? Leaving aside such purely individual quirks as Pintsize's malevolence, Winslow's slight crush on his owner and Momo's tendency to produce electric shocks and eels, is there a useful purpose to owning one? If not a useful purpose, then can we say it's sufficently enjoyable for the owners? I can't imagine they are cheap...
The same reason people buy an expensive dog I suppose, the big difference is that one is a living creature and the other isn't. It would be weird for me to be friends with a computer, but for the QC cast it isn't so it must be commonplace. A lot of questions to ask there such as Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?
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A lot of questions to ask there such as Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?
Guessing what Pintsize dreams of? It may occasionally involve sheep, but I don't think I want to know the exact role the sheep have in his dreams.
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I don't have dreams, but I do have some lovingly-rendered computer animations that work just as well. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=761)
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I'm about 756,827,000 seconds old. Because of this, I also figured out that May 4, 2019 (late evening) is when I'll have been alive for one gigasecond.
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
I suspect that she's not big enough to reach the Ethernet cable to unplug it from the computer and put it into her body. Furthermore, if she fell on it, she would probably damage it and wake Marigold up. The easiest solution without a human to deal with the cables is to type it.
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
I suspect that she's not big enough to reach the Ethernet cable to unplug it from the computer and put it into her body. Furthermore, if she fell on it, she would probably damage it and wake Marigold up. The easiest solution without a human to deal with the cables is to type it.
I kinda just assumed anthroPCs have wireless 4g-like connections to the internetz...
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I kinda just assumed anthroPCs have wireless 4g-like connections to the internetz...
You might be right as I don't remember Pintsize ever connecting up to anything to get things off the net. In which case I'm confused as to why she used a keyboard.
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Maybe the problem with employing AnthroPCs is the lack of opposable thumbs. Even a high end model like Momo-tan didn't get fingers until a quite recent update.
You forgot about one particular place in your answer. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1843)
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Pintsize and Winslow managed cables OK when testing to see if Hanners was a Cyborg.
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Pintsize and Winslow managed cables OK when testing to see if Hanners was a Cyborg.
They had a bed to stand on when to do that. Furthermore, we don't know if the cables had to be unpluded from anything.
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One of the skills Momo lists in her introduction is 'heuristic internet trawling'. This is exactly the first thing I thought of in answer to the question 'what use is an AnthroPC?' Think about it. You want to know something? No need to type it into Google, no need to try hundreds of different combinations of keywords. Just call over to your sentient little computer and ask it to search the web for that information. If you look at science fiction, one of the most common functions of any sentient computer is to give its owners information.
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Seriously.. what is she going to do with the poor eels? put them on down her skirt like on that alternative version of one of the strips?? Ugh... :psyduck:
It's a reference back to her first appearance (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1298).
I know about that strip... It doesn't make it more confortable at all.
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97 TERABYTES?! HOLY COW!
That is all.
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Who said anything about only AnthroPC's? Different, more efficient robots would be built for certain jobs; they would work 24/7 and never complain or want money, because they would be programmed that way. Just like a robot on a car assembly line in our world. Any human that does a simple labor job would have to worry about being replaced.
Um, that sounds more like the robots we have in the real world that do real jobs that people used to do. I find it hard to believe any sentient being would "work 24/7 and never complain or want money," if they were truly self-aware. In fact, that seems like the exact sort of thing in a lot of sci-fi media that leads to a robot rebellion.
In the real world though, robotics could indeed take over some of the jobs that people do now. I'm fairly convinced they won't any time soon though, because people need to work to eat, and taking away more jobs would be a terribly unpopular idea. Now, if we could get off this rock, I think there would be plenty of jobs people would be happy to let robots do since spreading out would mean a huge expansion of jobs, and automation would be incredibly helpful.
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In the real world though, robotics could indeed take over some of the jobs that people do now. I'm fairly convinced they won't any time soon though, because people need to work to eat, and taking away more jobs would be a terribly unpopular idea.
This is the main idea of a world where nobody has to work and gets everything for free because nobody needs to be paid for it, in easy terms. I forgot if there's a name for that concept. This does of course not work in the real world with real humans.
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Yeah, robot automation seems like it would fit perfectly in a socialist-type society, where the general idea is that society as a whole benefits from everyone's work, rather than individuals only. Socialism is a tricky thing though, and I think robot automation for the general benefit of a society is equally as tricky if not more so.
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Maybe Marigold uses Momo as a file repository, considering her frankly amazing amount of storage. I know technology is a bit more advanced in the world of QC, but that's a lot. The biggest hard drives currently on sale seem to be about 4TB, and you could maybe stuff about five of them into a single PC if you wanted to... which still gives Momo a capacity about five times what can reasonably be achieved in a single device in our world.
To house the sort of intelligence and consciousness that AnthroPCs possess, she'd need a huge amount of memory. I wonder if 97TB is her total capacity or what she has left over for storage after subtracting her "personality".
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Yeah, robot automation seems like it would fit perfectly in a socialist-type society, where the general idea is that society as a whole benefits from everyone's work, rather than individuals only. Socialism is a tricky thing though, and I think robot automation for the general benefit of a society is equally as tricky if not more so.
There's still that whole bit of paying for the resources used by the robots to make the goodies
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Maybe that computer is where the printer is attached?
Does anyone use hardcopy resumes any more?
As someone who has been frantically looking for a new job for the last three weeks I can say freaking no
And it's annoying as fuck
At least with paper applications and resumes I can know that the workplace got my app. I mean maybe they threw it in the trash right after I walked out but still, it's a little less stressful than thinking my digital application just poofed into nothingness in cyberspace.
But then I have to apply for entry level jobs not something that really requires a resume, so it might be different in the upper echelons of society, idk.
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Robots in the QC universe seem to be unreliable once they get past a certain level of capability. Remember that robot 18-wheeler have gone crazy.
Pintsize has wireless Internet (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Pintsize#Equipment), and he's a pretty basic model.
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Who said anything about only AnthroPC's? Different, more efficient robots would be built for certain jobs; they would work 24/7 and never complain or want money, because they would be programmed that way. Just like a robot on a car assembly line in our world. Any human that does a simple labor job would have to worry about being replaced.
Um, that sounds more like the robots we have in the real world that do real jobs that people used to do. I find it hard to believe any sentient being would "work 24/7 and never complain or want money," if they were truly self-aware. In fact, that seems like the exact sort of thing in a lot of sci-fi media that leads to a robot rebellion.
In the real world though, robotics could indeed take over some of the jobs that people do now. I'm fairly convinced they won't any time soon though, because people need to work to eat, and taking away more jobs would be a terribly unpopular idea. Now, if we could get off this rock, I think there would be plenty of jobs people would be happy to let robots do since spreading out would mean a huge expansion of jobs, and automation would be incredibly helpful.
Who said anything about sentient? They're programmed to be that way.
The difference between QC and reality is that they have the technology to have robots do jobs that do what they're told in QC. They don't have to build robots with personalities and stubby arms. They could build ones with no personality and advanced mechanics for jobs. Ones that make coffee and take cofee orders, with over 100,000 insults, for instance.
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97 TERABYTES?! HOLY COW!
That is all.
This was my exact thought as well.
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Wait, she references "a model number" (HDC-4100X) in her first appearance, yet her "resume states another "model number" (Sony KawaiiPC). Am I missing something here?
Yes, that "Sony KawaiiPC" is not a model number but a brand name. "Dell Inspiron" is not the model number of my laptop, "PP41L" is, but both are equally legitimate things to call it (and neither is the same thing as the serial number, of course).
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Seems to me that an Anthro's serial number should be as private as their social security number in the US... it'd be how they get their support.
Or maybe asking an anthropc for their serial number would be like asking their age? i.e. not polite
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PT410x went by his serial number: PT410x (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1105)
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New question: why did Momo-tan put her gender on the resume? In our world's USA, among human applicants, employers aren't allowed to ask or care about that in almost all situations. If there were a job requiring a robot with the "male" bit on, she could reconfigure for it anyway.
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What was THE MOMENT OF THE WEEK?
Mutual self-perpetuating sleep-deprivation freakouts! - 8 (17.4%)
"I tried. Five times. They keep forgetting." - 2 (4.3%)
"You're not stupid!" - 0 (0%)
Just takes her hobbies very seriously. - 0 (0%)
Who sets their alarm for 9:17? - 1 (2.2%)
MARIGOLD LOUISE FARMER! - 6 (13%)
Hanners grounds Marigold! - 6 (13%)
JOU JOU YUUJOU! BANJI MAJI KACHOU!!! - 4 (8.7%)
Hi dad... No, I didn't BREAK SOMETHING... No, it's not the Red Chinese... - 0 (0%)
You run a SHOE WEBSITE. - 0 (0%)
I'm not lying! I swear! Talk to my dad, he'll prove it! - 1 (2.2%)
Your father wants me to extend it to a week (AUGH!) - 4 (8.7%)
No video games for the next three days! - 0 (0%)
Sad eyes at Momo! (It's for your own good) - 0 (0%)
Th - the Mitsubishi PX-3500? - 0 (0%)
But it costs thirty thousand... - 0 (0%)
I'LL TAKE OUT A LOAN JUST LET ME PLAY SOME FRIGGIN' VIDEO GAMES - 7 (15.2%)
Were you serious about the new chassis? - 0 (0%)
'Sides, I like you just the way you are. - 2 (4.3%)
Momo fills out her resume! - 4 (8.7%)
14 Elm Grove Lane (no such number) - 1 (2.2%)
Total Voters: 46
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Welcome back to the comic subforum! You've been missed.
New question: why did Momo-tan put her gender on the resume? In our world's USA, among human applicants, employers aren't allowed to ask or care about that in almost all situations. If there were a job requiring a robot with the "male" bit on, she could reconfigure for it anyway.
I just think she was describing what kind of AnthroPC she is.
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I dunno - it was listed as "gender", but specified AnthroPC female - seems a bit like putting your race on an application. "Yes, I'm a second class citizen, since I'm not human".
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Just noticed this but in the panel right before Marigold falls asleep she looks a lot like Sven... Could this explain the crush MoMo has on him :psyduck:
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Stoutflies, I would have to fall back on that last "paragraph" of my post that you quoted and say that when referring to non-sentient robots, I would guess the idea of using them to replace humans is just as unpopular in the QCverse as it is in the real world. I don't know if you keep up with robotics, but there are plenty of things robots could be programmed to do today that would be cost-effective and eliminate thousands of jobs. In the near future the cost-effective part will spread to other realms of robotics, and probably bump that up to millions of jobs. We've already seen that things are not always pretty in the QC job market (e.g. when Marten lost his first job), so if I had to take a stab at why non-sentient machines don't do all the work it would be along those lines.
I think the reason everyone has been jumping to the AnthroPCs and sentient robots is because they would be the high-functioning robots, and therefore able to take on more jobs. Also, the discussion came up when an AnthroPC filledo ut a resume in the comic. It's true though that you never said that, and even went as far as to say you specifically didn't mean that, so my apologies for being a bit slow on the uptake there.
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Are the QC' world's non-sentient robots any better than ours?
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Don't know that we've ever seen any non-sentient (unsentient? insentient? asentient?) robots n the QCverse. The battlebot was sentient, as was the defense array Hanners used to chat with...
One risk would be that sentient assebly robots at a factory might go on strike!
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Don't know that we've ever seen any non-sentient (unsentient? insentient? asentient?) robots n the QCverse. The battlebot was sentient, as was the defense array Hanners used to chat with...
Wasn't the defence array something from a guest strip?
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
To protect herself from being hacked? Or whatever the theory was in Ghost In The Shell for having androids/cyborgs typing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkyZGZRnQb4
Don't know that we've ever seen any non-sentient (unsentient? insentient? asentient?) robots n the QCverse. The battlebot was sentient, as was the defense array Hanners used to chat with...
Wasn't the defence array something from a guest strip?
No. http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=665
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EDIT: What if Momo is still so pleased to have fingers that she just wants to use them wherever possible, even if it's something inefficient like typing into another computer?
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My take on it is; just because she's a computer, it doesn't mean that she has word processing facilities installed.
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What was THE MOMENT OF THE WEEK?
Mutual self-perpetuating sleep-deprivation freakouts! - 8 (15.7%)
"I tried. Five times. They keep forgetting." - 4 (7.8%)
Who sets their alarm for 9:17? - 2 (3.9%)
MARIGOLD LOUISE FARMER! - 6 (11.8%)
Hanners grounds Marigold! - 6 (11.8%)
JOU JOU YUUJOU! BANJI MAJI KACHOU!!! - 4 (7.8%)
I'm not lying! I swear! Talk to my dad, he'll prove it! - 1 (2%)
Your father wants me to extend it to a week (AUGH!) - 6 (11.8%)
I'LL TAKE OUT A LOAN JUST LET ME PLAY SOME FRIGGIN' VIDEO GAMES - 7 (13.7%)
'Sides, I like you just the way you are. - 2 (3.9%)
Momo fills out her resume! - 4 (7.8%)
14 Elm Grove Lane (no such number) - 1 (2%)
Total Voters: 51
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Wait...isn't she a computer? Why is she using a separate computer to type up her resume?
To protect herself from being hacked? Or whatever the theory was in Ghost In The Shell for having androids/cyborgs typing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkyZGZRnQb4
There's actually a collection of reasons (which does include the aforementioned security concerns but also includes personal paranoia on the part of some of the cyborgs and also the simple inability to afford the tech required to do it the other way) why some people prefer to type, which actually makes it more realistic as far as I'm concerned - just as there is no one reason why ASCII became the de facto standard for text transmission and then stayed the standard for twenty years and still exists despite ostensibly being replaced by Unicode.
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Why did Data record logs using the Enterprise computer instead of himself?
Because it made him more human. Or because it was a lousy excuse for inner monologue filler.
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Or maybe to add to the 'Off Site' record
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What happens to the record if Data is destroyed on an away mission?
Data is impressive but he certainly does not have Wifi.
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His combadge might generate a WiFi hotspot. I'll bet he has an unlimited Data plan.
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But his neural net doesn't link wirelessly, otherwise the Borg would have been able to hack in there and fuck shit up.
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His combadge might generate a WiFi hotspot. I'll bet he has an unlimited Data plan.
I see what you did there.