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Title: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Sep 2011, 06:05
And yet another week comes upon us - with Monday being the US Holiday, Labor Day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Sep 2011, 06:50
There is only one sensible choice here. 


Waffles, anyone?   (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=510)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheBiscuit on 04 Sep 2011, 06:59
My money is on the entire week being an extended sequence of Momo cuddling Marigold. When I say 'money' I mean the bribe I paid to Jeph of course.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Sep 2011, 07:33
Also, this came to mind with the sentient appliances from last week's comics; 

Pintsize on Toasters and other appliances (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=979). 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 04 Sep 2011, 08:58
M-hm.  The refrigerator doesn't masturbate in public and that's very relaxing.  I can only agree to that.
Although only on the psychological level, I'm sure this would affect the taste of my beer.  And milk and cheese and kippers and bacon will never be without disturbing sub-context anymore.  Not to mention the pickled beef ...

And mixers shouldn't be allowed to exercise their artistic ambitions.  Never ever!   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: idontunderstand on 04 Sep 2011, 11:16
How is the "pint" in Pintsize pronounced? Like "slint" or "blind"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 04 Sep 2011, 11:19
Pint, as in the unit of volume measurement between a cup and a quart, and sized as in how large.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Sep 2011, 11:43
That's not helping with pronounciation... I'm guessing, despite the native american avatar, idontunderstand may not be a native english speaker...

It's a long i in pint, like the sound of the word "eye".  So, like blind. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 04 Sep 2011, 12:04
How is the "pint" in Pintsize pronounced? Like "slint" or "blind"?

Carl-E gave you the pronounciation. About the volume, I only think of it as the size of the glass of beer I usually have ("stop" in Swedish). And I am ever so grateful to Scottish & Newcastle for buying out one of the major Finnish breweries as the size of the cans went up from half a liter to the imperial pint (=0.568 liters).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Sep 2011, 12:08
Labor Day.
That phony bologna holiday crammed down our throats by fat-cat union gangsters?

Also, Skewbrow, lucky!  In the states, the average can/bottle here is 12 fl. oz (0.355 liters).  Of course, bars'll serve you pints, but that's still just under half a liter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 04 Sep 2011, 12:34
Yes, I had confusion on my uni engineering course because I got an American book on fluid dynamics - and all the conversion tables were in terms of US fluid measures, not Imperial, so I kept getting different answers from other people.

The US and UK pints (16oz and 20oz) are actually both based on old UK measurements (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24757.msg967669.html#msg967669), from the time that these things were not so standardised.

And look, US fluid measurements (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24757.msg968485.html#msg968485) were one of the earliest uses of binary!

(As you see, I've been here before!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: idontunderstand on 04 Sep 2011, 12:57
Thank you very much, bastards.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tova on 04 Sep 2011, 14:23
D'awwwwww.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Sep 2011, 16:50
Labor Day.
That phony bologna holiday crammed down our throats by fat-cat union gangsters?

(Eyes like lasers)

I'm a Wisconsin State Employee (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/117079073.html). I'm a bit touchy about that, thanks.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Sep 2011, 16:51
Yes, I had confusion on my uni engineering course because I got an American book on fluid dynamics - and all the conversion tables were in terms of US fluid measures, not Imperial, so I kept getting different answers from other people.

The US and UK pints (16oz and 20oz) are actually both based on old UK measurements (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24757.msg967669.html#msg967669), from the time that these things were not so standardised.

And look, US fluid measurements (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24757.msg968485.html#msg968485) were one of the earliest uses of binary!

(As you see, I've been here before!)

Paul: "mouthful" is actually what is called in baking a "tablespoon".

3 teaspoons = 1 tablespoon, 2 tablespoons = 1 ounce.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Sep 2011, 16:55
Damn, I was hoping people would either get the reference or google it.  It's a Futurama line.

Hermes: Labor Day?  That phony bologna holiday crammed down our throats by fat-cat union gangsters?
Fry: That's the one.
Hermes: Hot damn, a day off!

(As a soon-to-be teacher, I'm hardly one to shit on unions)

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A tablespoon is slightly more than a half an ounce, isn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Sep 2011, 17:37
According to baker's measures, it is - at least in the US (1 US tablespoon = 0.5 US ounces).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 04 Sep 2011, 18:05
(As a soon-to-be teacher, I'm hardly one to shit on unions)
In Indiana, teachers are not required to join unions as a matter of law.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Sep 2011, 18:46
Before the mods step in, let's just steer away from that...

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Sep 2011, 18:56
If there's a need, it can go on in Discuss: everyone who's posted has a high enough post count to go there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Sep 2011, 18:58
According to baker's measures, it is - at least in the US (1 US tablespoon = 0.5 US ounces).
I thought tablespoons were metric, though, 15 mL to a teaspoon's 5.  Unless those are the approximations.

RED TEXT Ok, I'll check it out later if someone makes a thread.

Modified because I forgot to put a [/i] at the end of the italicized portion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Somebody on 04 Sep 2011, 20:57
Can the thread title PLEASE be fixed so the last post column on the  forum homepage shows the comic numbers rather than just "Re: Weekly Comics Discus..."?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Sep 2011, 00:35
I wish I'd never brought the subject of the thread title up, really.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TRVA123 on 05 Sep 2011, 00:49
hmm, for a long time I though WCDT meant "We can Discuss This"

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 05 Sep 2011, 02:43
I think that Momo's been spending too much time with Faye and Pintsize.

I hope someone points out to Momo there are plenty of other jobs.

{light bulb goes on above HiFranc's head} What's the betting that she'll end up working at The Secret Bakery?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Daris on 05 Sep 2011, 02:49
Plenty of other jobs? 

Well... maybe if the economy in the QC universe is better then it is in our universe.  Considering I've been searching for well over a year, or was it two.  I've lost count now. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 05 Sep 2011, 02:50
So... which of CoD's employees should Momo challenge to a duel to the death? (None, I'd say. Those girls are badass, and unless the new chassis has Summer Glau-like combat powers she'd stand no chance. Perhaps find out if the SMIF library can use a second assistant...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 05 Sep 2011, 03:06
Now Momo, Marigold probably wouldn't be too happy if something...unfortunate happened to Hannelore. Also, it's not smart to make veiled threats towards someone who is accident-prone/extremely unlucky. Now every time Cosette falls while carrying something sharp Faye (and we) will wonder.

Then again, it's pretty much the perfect cover. Everyone will assume it's a tragic accident. Only Faye will suspect...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 05 Sep 2011, 03:17
Plenty of other jobs?  

Well... maybe if the economy in the QC universe is better then it is in our universe.  Considering I've been searching for well over a year, or was it two.  I've lost count now.

I know, I'm looking myself.  However, there are jobs out there (as my application history can testify).  The trick is persuading the recruiters that you are the person they want to hire.

{edit}One of the things is, I think it's still 2005 or so in the strip?  Jeph could clarify.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Sep 2011, 03:21
I would say that the time is the present, in spite of passing much more slowly than in our universe (this is a paradox we must just accept) - and since it's in a different universe, the job market has no reason to stay the same either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Daris on 05 Sep 2011, 03:32
I think another trick may be to move out of the damned community where the dominant population is elderly, and there is a 20% unemployment rate. 

But anyways, Momo might not have much trouble getting a job.  Machines being much more efficient then humans, never tiring, and never having to eat or for that matter excrete waste.  So there is no need for time wasters such as breaks. In fact!  The QC universe's job market may start to be fully replaced by machines soon!  They will start taking over the world, not violently, but economically.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TinPenguin on 05 Sep 2011, 03:50
See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.

Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.

Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?

I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 05 Sep 2011, 03:58
Momo is going homicidal. That's not gonna bode well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 05 Sep 2011, 04:29
Todays comic is very un-momo-tan.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 05 Sep 2011, 04:36
Is character defined by personality or shape?
On the risk of wandering astray in the wrong thread: When we consider the impact of culture - in other words: The influence of other people on our values, thinking habits, our behaviour - as "programming", we certainly receive a reprogramming from our community when we alter our visual appearance.  What was the point in fashion again?

:edit: error correction :/edit:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tova on 05 Sep 2011, 04:50
SLRRRP.

Oh well, so much for the easy option. Time to get to searching.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Throg on 05 Sep 2011, 05:19
(zomg, i'm a sig quote of one of the mods)

It's funny how easily even the hint of a homicidal / aggressive robot triggers the expectation of Blade-Runner-type scenarios.  Cultural conditioning, I suppose.

I'm gonna guess it's practically certain that Momo will either end up at CoD, tSB, or in Deathmole/Marten's band -- just out of narrative necessity. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 05 Sep 2011, 05:31
See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.

Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.

Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?

I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
Obligatory trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody)

Fun and relevant comic (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2358#comic)

Would I act differently in a different body? In all seriousness I have to believe I would. My social conditioning would remain the same but biologically I'd be an entirely separate being. Keeping the nurture but swapping the nature.

Though who's to say how that works as an AI? Hard drives are probably a bit more uniform than the biological brain, and the chemical component to biological thinking has probably been removed entirely.

Which of course is not to say that there aren't a host of other factors that would effect the change that would accompany adopting a new form. Quite likely your socialization has led to the associations with certain physical traits and appearances with certain other characteristics. When moving from one form to another these would likely become something that effects how you perceive yourself, which has a well documented track record of in turn effecting the self. In this respect even something like limb replacement could conceivably lead to the creation of new behaviors.

Edit: Crap crap. Gotta tie this back to the comic. So Momo's new behaviors are probably an entirely natural and likely documented part of the process of moving from one chassis to another. She's being a bit more willful which is likely due to her associating size with power to a degree, and potentially sees herself as a more equal or standard member of society now that she looks more like a person. If I were to take a wild guess. At the very least it is evident that she's much more comfortable operating on the social level of a the rest of the cast now.

Does this make her a new character? I wouldn't think so. Characters aren't meant to be static beings. I'd personally categorize it with character development or possibly just the variance that one can expect of the same character in multiple situations and scenarios. Often a character will lead one life in times of war, but display no predisposition for it in a peaceful scenario for example. Dora's sass levels have been shown to fluctuate depending on her current hair. Same general category. Seeing a new side of the same person as opposed to the birthing of a new person using the old as a framework.

I'm loving new Momo's moodier faces. Any bets on where she'll end up working? There's that bakery, but I can't really think of any established locations that would have us visiting her at work terribly frequently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: J on 05 Sep 2011, 05:59
See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.

Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.

Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?

I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
Obligatory trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody)

Fun and relevant comic (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2358#comic)

Would I act differently in a different body? In all seriousness I have to believe I would. My social conditioning would remain the same but biologically I'd be an entirely separate being. Keeping the nurture but swapping the nature.

actually, i'd say it's hard to believe you wouldn't. while your memories and experiences remain the same, your hormone and chemical balance would be changed completely. in the short term your moods and emotions would be unpredictable, as they interact with your established memories you may find you feel very different about some key experiences in your life. and that's assuming you jumped into a statistically normal body, can you imagine suddenly finding yourself in a body with a severe chemical or hormone imbalance?

in the longer term the physiological change would probably even out, but then there's the change in personal experience. if you look different people will treat you differently, and if you have a different body type it will change the way you interact with the world. and again, that's assuming you don't end up in the body of a world class athlete. or the body of a cripple.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Sep 2011, 06:43
Heck, just teh point of view that she now sees the world from (much taller) will make a difference in how she percieves herself and interacts with others! 

On the job front, Momo could  pull a Wil - get a job at a less-frequented establishment, effectively disappearing from the comic for long stretches of time, only to reappear and complain about work (but with a decidedly Momo-tan positive spin). 

With her socila protocol database, she's more likely to go into the service industry.  Maybe even work from home in customer service? 

I know, how about Robo-calling?   :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 05 Sep 2011, 07:01
Why am I not surprised that Faye drank straight from the coffee pot? Stay classy, Faye.

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right? Like, The Secret Bakery or SMIF's library or the bar where Wil works or something else. Better hit the job search sites, good ma'am. You may just find something that fits you perfectly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 05 Sep 2011, 07:16
Obligatory trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody)
Curse you, you linked TVTropes ! :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: kent_eh on 05 Sep 2011, 07:42

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 05 Sep 2011, 07:47
Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?
Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?
Not quite sure. I think there may be, but I'm blanking on that at the moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Sep 2011, 08:09
I'm sure that manager filled any openings. 


Hurr, hurr, ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 05 Sep 2011, 08:17
Talking about physical change and psychology, I just remembered something that may be relevant:

I remember an interview on the radio with someone who studied medieval literature (I think that's what she did).  She commented that her first horse riding lesson was a revelation to her.  When you're on a horse your head is physically higher than those on foot.  She realised that the change in perspective would also effect how people saw things in a broader sense.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 05 Sep 2011, 08:25

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Sep 2011, 08:25
One of the interesting things about today's comic is it puts to rest the argument of "Momo is selfish for not getting a job", since she clearly still wants one and is trying to get one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2011, 09:35
I have to agree that the line about tragic accidents was out of character, though it certainly was funny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheCollector on 05 Sep 2011, 10:04
Man, I'm loving new Momo more and more with every comic.
And y'know, I see people saying the way she's been acting is un-momo. Well, has anyone ever thought maybe this is more Momo then she's ever been? I mean now she has nothing to fear, she's big, but before if she said things like this she was at their mercy she was so small.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2011, 10:20
I wonder if powerless AnthroPCs crave Arnold Schwarzenegger chassis.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Sep 2011, 10:33
I have to agree that the line about tragic accidents was out of character, though it certainly was funny.
Any more out of character than say...this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1576)?

(Modified to put the quote in, didn't see the new page so didn't realize it wasn't the most recent post)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Wagimawr on 05 Sep 2011, 10:35
actually, i'd say it's hard to believe you wouldn't. while your memories and experiences remain the same, your hormone and chemical balance would be changed completely. in the short term your moods and emotions would be unpredictable, as they interact with your established memories you may find you feel very different about some key experiences in your life. and that's assuming you jumped into a statistically normal body, can you imagine suddenly finding yourself in a body with a severe chemical or hormone imbalance?

I think this part of the thread just deconstructed Quantum Leap.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: questionablecontentfan on 05 Sep 2011, 10:39
Man, I'm loving new Momo more and more with every comic.
And y'know, I see people saying the way she's been acting is un-momo. Well, has anyone ever thought maybe this is more Momo then she's ever been? I mean now she has nothing to fear, she's big, but before if she said things like this she was at their mercy she was so small.

Aw, Momo...

I don't know. I think she had more power than you give her credit for. Remember when she made Marigold go out for drinks using her scary electric stare? lol.

She was cute. I will miss the small, cute Momo, but I like the  new Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheCollector on 05 Sep 2011, 10:54
Man, I'm loving new Momo more and more with every comic.
And y'know, I see people saying the way she's been acting is un-momo. Well, has anyone ever thought maybe this is more Momo then she's ever been? I mean now she has nothing to fear, she's big, but before if she said things like this she was at their mercy she was so small.

Aw, Momo...

I don't know. I think she had more power than you give her credit for. Remember when she made Marigold go out for drinks using her scary electric stare? lol.

She was cute. I will miss the small, cute Momo, but I like the  new Momo.
I dunno, that was Marigold. Have we ever seen her doing anything of the sort to anyone else?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Border Reiver on 05 Sep 2011, 11:16
As my wife is working a string of overnights and I drive her to and from my sleep schedule is nearly as shot as hers so I'm late to the strip today.

Is it a sign that I am a bad person that:

a.  I didn't need Carl's subscript to know what he meant;
b.  That I thought Momo could deal with Cossette and get away with it if she'd internalized that thought?

My compliments to the engineers in this world, the robotics are definitely top notch to allow the level of body language Jeph is showing
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2011, 11:48
I have to agree that the line about tragic accidents was out of character, though it certainly was funny.
Any more out of character than say...this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1576)?

(Modified to put the quote in, didn't see the new page so didn't realize it wasn't the most recent post)
Hannelore had already been shown to have morbid thoughts. Momo was supposed to be sane.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: idontunderstand on 05 Sep 2011, 12:32
I'm thinking there's a chance she will go back to her own chassi, for whatever reason. Maybe she realizes Marigold can't afford it, maybe she becomes annoyed with people treating her differently or maybe she just misses being tiny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 05 Sep 2011, 12:41
There's some stuff from her old behavior that would actually not really work with her current size now that I think of it.

Like Angus saying "Wait, momo has a social protocall database? Then why are you such a-"

And then momo shouts something about how he shouldn't finish that sentence, waives her arms around frantically and her eyes bug out of her head. Putting aside the previously robotic nature of her speech that's all just far too fearful. Cute in little Momo. Big Momo doing that would have me wondering what the hell Marigold does to the poor girl when we're not watching.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: vsonics on 05 Sep 2011, 12:49
On the "out of character" debate, I'm going to say that I agree, it was surprising to hear Momo of all people plotting doom and destruction. But I'm not sure we can entirely credit to Momo changing - it might be our perception of what she says as the reader changing because she does look different. Things that Momo has said in the past, back in the "aww, tiny Momo" days may have looked entirely different coming from her new chassis.

As far as the job goes, we can't forget the coffee shop run entirely by AnthroPCs. I don't think it's very likely for Momo to end up working there - for one, Marten wrote it off quickly and it seemed to be more of a gag than anything else, and for another I think Momo is going to end up working somewhere we've already seen.

I'm thinking she might end up working at the chassis store, if only out of my own hopes to see Charlotte again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: J on 05 Sep 2011, 12:51
Heck, just teh point of view that she now sees the world from (much taller) will make a difference in how she percieves herself and interacts with others!

there's also the possibility that her software just runs abit differently on the new hardware. different chipset, different drivers, different memory allocation, etc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kyronea on 05 Sep 2011, 13:12
I'm pretty sure Momo was mostly joking with her comment about people having a tragic accident.

Or she's been around Hannelore too long.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Sep 2011, 13:12
Before Momo's new body, I always assumed the rounded/squared voice bubbles were like rounded/squared pupils on Futurama, just an indicator that one is human or a robot, not necessarily how they sounded.  Now I'm not so sure.  Although I think she still has robot font.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: JohnTheWysard on 05 Sep 2011, 13:40
I think Momo may need to download and install the latest SelfControlModule update...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 05 Sep 2011, 15:03
There's some stuff from her old behavior that would actually not really work with her current size now that I think of it.

Like Angus saying "Wait, momo has a social protocall database? Then why are you such a-"

And then momo shouts something about how he shouldn't finish that sentence, waives her arms around frantically and her eyes bug out of her head. Putting aside the previously robotic nature of her speech that's all just far too fearful. Cute in little Momo. Big Momo doing that would have me wondering what the hell Marigold does to the poor girl when we're not watching.

Plus, the nervous anime sweatdrop would just look gross now.

In any case, I really hope this sticks. QC has a nice track record of evolving the status quo, and this is an interesting charactler development. Momo's adorability hasn't decreased, either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2011, 15:20
Jeph has been steadily introducing new characters, but new places show up less often. Maybe Momo's job will be an excuse to introduce a new venue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 05 Sep 2011, 15:24

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...

Which makes you wonder: if the guy......

Y'know what, nevermind. Fuck it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 05 Sep 2011, 15:28
Maybe she should see through Marten if Smif Library needs another staff member.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 05 Sep 2011, 15:32
Maybe she should see through Marten if Smif Library needs another staff member.

I......Think Momo could pass off as a college student?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2011, 16:16
With no stomach to turn and no sense of smell that we know of, she might get a job working with Meena.

She could start her own coffee shop!

Can they download the training for high-skilled jobs?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Sep 2011, 17:18
I'm pretty sure Momo was mostly joking with her comment about people having a tragic accident.

Or she's been around Hannelore too long.

My thought was, she's in Marty and Faye's apartment, so that means she's within WiFi range of Pintsize...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 05 Sep 2011, 17:25
I think that's Angus and Marigold's apartment. The pictures on the walls don't look like anything Marten or Faye would put up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 05 Sep 2011, 17:33
Yeah it's MariBear and Angus' Apartment.

I think Faye 'Stayed Over' for the night.    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: questionablecontentfan on 05 Sep 2011, 17:46
I'd be totally cool with making Cosette go bye bye. She's annoying.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2011, 17:56
Steve's girlfriends have a remarkable track record of being put on buses.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheCollector on 05 Sep 2011, 18:25
I'm thinking there's a chance she will go back to her own chassi, for whatever reason. Maybe she realizes Marigold can't afford it, maybe she becomes annoyed with people treating her differently or maybe she just misses being tiny.
This is Momo's chassis. It's her own as well.
And I don't think Jeph would do that, that's like character regression. Like if Faye all of a sudden was scared of relationships again, or if Marigold went back to never leaving her room. It would just be bad storytelling.

Like when DC had Superboy Prime realize the error of his ways and start a better life and then next time you see him he's evil and wants to kill everyone again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Blackjoker on 05 Sep 2011, 18:39
Devious Momo is kinda cute. The thing is there are actually a lot of options in terms of what she could do, the library is one but maybe another could lead to either 'hey we have a few positions' and Marten steps in. Or maybe Momo ends up trying to set Marigold up on a date with someone that she thinks would make Marigold happy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 05 Sep 2011, 20:55
Maybe she should see through Marten if Smif Library needs another staff member.

I......Think Momo could pass off as a college student?

On that note, I wonder if AnthroPCs ever feel like going to school. Do they even need to spend an extended period "studying" something to learn it, or can they just download an infodump and become instant experts? And even in the latter case, are there any robot professors or scientists? Since the robot rights bill appears to be fairly recent, it'd be understandable if few of them are in high-level professions yet, but I guess it could be possible in theory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Y on 05 Sep 2011, 21:19
Since when does Angus has a cofee machine. He started liking coffee here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1122) but Marigold asked before (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1613) why he doesn't buy a machine. Oh wait that's an espresso machine nvm.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Spectreofwar on 05 Sep 2011, 22:19
I'd be totally cool with making Cosette go bye bye. She's annoying.

Steve's girlfriends have a remarkable track record of being put on buses.

Aww. I find her awkwardly charming. But it would suit the whole "Steve's girlfriends" thing, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 05 Sep 2011, 23:26
Since when does Angus has a coffee machine. He started liking coffee here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1122) but Marigold asked before (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1613) why he doesn't buy a machine. Oh wait that's an espresso machine nvm.
When Faye is sleeping over she will need some coffee in the morning.  You know how it is with those caffeine addicts.    :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 05 Sep 2011, 23:45
I think the most interesting aspect of new chassis is the pure size of it and what it implies to have gone from a smaller, less capable one to a bigger one.

I suspect that the other characters are going to start having to pay attention to her whereas in the past she may not have been taken quite so seriously. Now the bigger size gives her more capability and on top of that additional *perceived capability* in others.

I'll enjoy seeing this play out with the other characters. It could go in a huge number of different directions.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 06 Sep 2011, 00:00

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...
Haha a machine getting OGLED ? LOL. All thats sweet lovely plastic and metal ... LOL.


I have to agree that the line about tragic accidents was out of character, though it certainly was funny.
I'll have to third that.


I have to agree that the line about tragic accidents was out of character, though it certainly was funny.
Any more out of character than say...this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1576)?

(Modified to put the quote in, didn't see the new page so didn't realize it wasn't the most recent post)
I fail to see your point. Thats perfectly Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 06 Sep 2011, 00:41
What is odd about a machine that looks like an attractive human attracting attention from a human?

Additionally, since it is established that AnthroPCs have libidos and are subject to sexual emotions themselves, it seems logical that they also have the capacity to be creeped out by unwelcome attention.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Sep 2011, 00:57
I'll enjoy seeing this play out with the other characters. It could go in a huge number of different directions.

From simple shenanigans to......near-shipping territory!! Wait, thats a bad thing.....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 06 Sep 2011, 01:28

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...
Haha a machine getting OGLED ? LOL. All thats sweet lovely plastic and metal ... LOL.

As opposed to being attracted to walking meatsacks. Consistency of an uncooked steak. Constantly producing unsightly emissions. Covered in an epidermis that's in a constant state of death, imperceptibly shedding biomatter at all times. Bloated with fluids to the point of being approximately ninety percent water. Countless chemical reactions occurring within at any moment always causing the overall form to shift and alter itself. Aging at such a rate as to be measurable, inexorably visibly edging closer to the abyss so as to remind you of its' nonpermanence. Not to mention completely unsanitary to the point of actually being an ideal habitat for many bacterium.

Yeah. You'd have to be a real freak to be into those plastics and metals. It's all about the fluids and meats.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: 0kamisama on 06 Sep 2011, 01:31
Not likely that Momo will be adding to COD's already over-stocked supply of young women workers (I know, she's a robot, but with her chassis, it totally applies).

There's always the library... Oh boy... there's Tai... SHIP AHOY!!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 06 Sep 2011, 01:43
Well that was easy. Surprised me, but then when reminded of how Marten got in it occured to me that it shouldn't have.

I think this is gonna be good wholesome fun. Tai has a way of getting under people's skin which will be hilarious to watch with Momo. She's always flustered pretty easily.

Marten's gonna be perfect for Momo during this time, because I don't think he's really gonna care about the new chassis overly much or treat Momo any differently. He's the one who always just viewed Pintsize as a little dude. Don't think he'll view Momo any differently than he ever has, which could be something Momo will need.

Plus between Tai and Momo we'll definitely get to see Marten working as the balancing influence here. They both can be a little more highstrung, energetic, extreme in their personality types. Marten does a good job of stepping in and defusing things before something troublesome happens.

Definitely gonna be a great trio.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Sep 2011, 01:47
plus literal-minded robot mis-interpretation...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Near Lurker on 06 Sep 2011, 01:52
...why would you give free reign of the library to a perpetually drunken undergrad with more tattoos than sense?  That will get you a library staffed with hipsters and moebots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tova on 06 Sep 2011, 01:58
They didn't, they gave it to Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: steveh11 on 06 Sep 2011, 02:23
Just a nitpick, but surely that should be "free rein" (letting the horse have it's head), shouldn't it?

Rein, reign, rain - I see them confused so often!  :|
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 06 Sep 2011, 02:23
Speaking of Tais Tattos, apparently they are missing sometimes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1608).

And today's strip clearly left out the anchor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 Sep 2011, 02:24
...why would you give free reign of the library to a perpetually drunken undergrad with more tattoos than sense?  That will get you a library staffed with hipsters and moebots.
May be Tai has been proven to be worthy of their trust? Hmm. I have always felt that Tai would be in grad school. She was at least TAing at some point, wasn't she?

But yeah, this is gonna be fun. Surely Momo will be a very efficient librarian. She can carry a database containing whatever is in the library easily. Also, she has heuristic internet trawling algorithms built-in. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1298) In the near future library searches at SMIF are going to go to the next level. On the downside Marten may be reduced to a lowly shelver.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 06 Sep 2011, 02:28
So... which of CoD's employees should Momo challenge to a duel to the death? (None, I'd say. Those girls are badass, and unless the new chassis has Summer Glau-like combat powers she'd stand no chance. Perhaps find out if the SMIF library can use a second assistant...)

Whee, called it. Of course, it wasn't exactly a long shot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 06 Sep 2011, 02:50
That was cold, Tai. Definitely cold... Though Marten is a bit wasted there. As a graduate music-nerd, he should be working in a music library, but perhaps Smif doesn't have one. And yes, I don't want to rain on Jeph's parade, but I think it should be rein not reign.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TinPenguin on 06 Sep 2011, 02:58
Momo seems to be looking nervously at her rear panelling in panel 4. Don't worry, Momo - as you said in panel 1, "it is nice butt".

And yes, I don't want to rain on Jeph's parade, but I think it should be rein not reign.

Maybe Jeph was making a PUN (or a palindrome!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Sep 2011, 03:16
Did I miss something here? Since when did Unshelved merge with the QC Universe?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 Sep 2011, 03:36
As opposed to being attracted to walking meatsacks. Consistency of an uncooked steak. Constantly producing unsightly emissions. Covered in an epidermis that's in a constant state of death, imperceptibly shedding biomatter at all times. Bloated with fluids to the point of being approximately ninety percent water. Countless chemical reactions occurring within at any moment always causing the overall form to shift and alter itself. Aging at such a rate as to be measurable, inexorably visibly edging closer to the abyss so as to remind you of its' nonpermanence. Not to mention completely unsanitary to the point of actually being an ideal habitat for many bacterium.

Yeah. You'd have to be a real freak to be into those plastics and metals. It's all about the fluids and meats.

You say this like its a bad thing....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kwark on 06 Sep 2011, 04:09
There's an aspect of Momo's new personality that I find interesting: her naivety. She was just "reborn" as a (almost) human, and thus suddenly went from pet to part of the society. She is only starting to learn how to behave like so, and our strange customs must take some time to get used to, which allows jokes like today's butt.

literal-minded robot mis-interpretation...

A few days ago, someone on the forum had noted that her body language is the same as Hannelore. I believe that's because they both try to fit in, in an awkwardly shy way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Somebody on 06 Sep 2011, 04:30
So, wait, how can Tai afford to hire someone else? Surely the budget (which even she conceded she needs to watch) isn't THAT generous...

PS: Empty nest syndrome in 5, 4,...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tanksenior on 06 Sep 2011, 04:36
In before tai x momo speculations...................

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 06 Sep 2011, 04:57

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...
Haha a machine getting OGLED ? LOL. All thats sweet lovely plastic and metal ... LOL.

As opposed to being attracted to walking meatsacks. Consistency of an uncooked steak. Constantly producing unsightly emissions. Covered in an epidermis that's in a constant state of death, imperceptibly shedding biomatter at all times. Bloated with fluids to the point of being approximately ninety percent water. Countless chemical reactions occurring within at any moment always causing the overall form to shift and alter itself. Aging at such a rate as to be measurable, inexorably visibly edging closer to the abyss so as to remind you of its' nonpermanence. Not to mention completely unsanitary to the point of actually being an ideal habitat for many bacterium.

Yeah. You'd have to be a real freak to be into those plastics and metals. It's all about the fluids and meats.
Oh, hello, Mr. Tibetan Monk. Please leave your misogyny and bigottery elsewhere.

Now PLEASE explain: How the hell did you get access to the internet ?!?

You say this like its a bad thing....
Hehe yeah he does didnt he ?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 06 Sep 2011, 04:58
So, wait, how can Tai afford to hire someone else? Surely the budget (which even she conceded she needs to watch) isn't THAT generous...

She said that she was hiring Momo.  She didn't say anything about hiring Momo full time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Sep 2011, 05:13
So, wait, how can Tai afford to hire someone else? Surely the budget (which even she conceded she needs to watch) isn't THAT generous...
She said that she was hiring Momo.  She didn't say anything about hiring Momo full time.
Additional: Do robots have the same wage expectations/minimum wage as humans?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Sep 2011, 05:46
In before tai x momo speculations...................

 :mrgreen:

Goddammit, Don't do that!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Sep 2011, 06:14
On the downside Marten may be reduced to a lowly shelver.

Isn't that already what he does? 
Oh, hello, Mr. Tibetan Monk. Please leave your misogyny and bigottery elsewhere.

OK, please  thnk twice before calling someone names, like misogynist or bigot. 

Especially when they were just making fun of your meat-based bias! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Lubricus on 06 Sep 2011, 06:31
Did I miss something here? Since when did Unshelved merge with the QC Universe?

It's the Webcomic Singularity!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 06 Sep 2011, 07:02
Butt Status: Still unempooyed... and wide.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Sep 2011, 07:34
In before tai x momo speculations...................

literal-minded robot moderator  mis-interpretation...

(http://cassland.org/images/Avatars/SP6.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Sep 2011, 07:59
You couldn't have timed that better - the avatar was the one of Scott Pilgrim all grubby, looking shocked and angry at the same time...

 :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: LeeC on 06 Sep 2011, 09:50
I do believe I called it.  That momo would work in the library.  this is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: sky0dragon on 06 Sep 2011, 10:12
i just registered to say 1 thing

Marten ♥  Momo

now its in your mind... enjoy it  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Sep 2011, 11:16
Read the rules.

(http://cassland.org/images/Avatars/SP9.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheCollector on 06 Sep 2011, 11:29
Awww, Momo's so cute all naive and looking at her butt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Handmade.Mercury on 06 Sep 2011, 11:36
It looks like Momo's butt has plenty of qualifications, too
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 06 Sep 2011, 11:39
The now infamous #1658 aside, I don't see how Momo could be in any kind of non-creepy romantic relationship with a human. As has been pointed out, she seems about as vulnerable and insecure as Hanners minus the physical contact phobia. Also, the slim figure and ill-fitting clothes might cause this, but Momo's chassis sort of looks young enough to induce Squick. Definitely young enough for Faye to call her "kiddo". So yeah, those ships aren't sailing anywhere, I think.

Edit: On the other hand, the idea of less intimate relationships involving her is not so much creepy as warm-fuzzies-inducing. +1 for more Momo-hugs all around.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Sep 2011, 11:43
Just a nitpick, but surely that should be "free rein" (letting the horse have it's head), shouldn't it?

Rein, reign, rain - I see them confused so often!  :|

Yes, and bless you for getting that straight! It's a pet peeve of mine when people get that wrong.

Noteworthy that the other person who caught that is an ESL speaker.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 06 Sep 2011, 12:27
I'm pretty sure Momo was mostly joking with her comment about people having a tragic accident.

Or she's been around Hannelore too long.

My thought was, she's in Marty and Faye's apartment, so that means she's within WiFi range of Pintsize...
I made the same mistake about the location, until I checked the pictures hanging on the walls.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Sep 2011, 14:10
As opposed to being attracted to walking meatsacks. Consistency of an uncooked steak. Constantly producing unsightly emissions. Covered in an epidermis that's in a constant state of death, imperceptibly shedding biomatter at all times. Bloated with fluids to the point of being approximately ninety percent water. Countless chemical reactions occurring within at any moment always causing the overall form to shift and alter itself. Aging at such a rate as to be measurable, inexorably visibly edging closer to the abyss so as to remind you of its' nonpermanence. Not to mention completely unsanitary to the point of actually being an ideal habitat for many bacterium.

Yeah. You'd have to be a real freak to be into those plastics and metals. It's all about the fluids and meats.

You say this like its a bad thing....
I read it as more as saying either could be considered gross (sleeping with a robot or another human) depending on how you viewed it, but that neither is inherently so.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 06 Sep 2011, 14:16
Just a nitpick, but surely that should be "free rein" (letting the horse have it's head), shouldn't it?

Rein, reign, rain - I see them confused so often!  :|

Yes, and bless you for getting that straight! It's a pet peeve of mine when people get that wrong.

She has been given free rein in reigning over the library :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Sep 2011, 15:25
Drive-thru, donut, Syfy...

 :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: wrwight on 06 Sep 2011, 15:47
Free reign, while still wrong, at least makes some sense (the synonyms "unrestricted rule" would fit the meaning just fine). "Shoe-in" and "vocal chord" make me cringe. Also, Syfy should be a channel, nothing more. I hate seeing the widespread decline of my native tongue. I blame America. I hate seeing the widespread decline of my native country. Still, another part of me is interested to see what English looks like in 300 years. It's too bad I won't be around for that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 06 Sep 2011, 15:47
Well, languages evolve.
I think it's healthy, that research communities try to guard and foster that process.

Trust me, you don't want to see the government being involved in this.  That's not only ugly to look at, it also leads to non-working "solutions" (or the "legally permitted" absence of solutions, which is far worse).

Edit: Typo correction.  Grrmbl.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Sep 2011, 15:48
Drive-thru, donut, Syfy...

 :lol:
Don't even get me started on them changing their name from Science Fiction to "siffy". :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jacjyd on 06 Sep 2011, 16:38
Just a nitpick, but surely that should be "free rein" (letting the horse have it's head), shouldn't it?

Rein, reign, rain - I see them confused so often!  :|

Yes, and bless you for getting that straight! It's a pet peeve of mine when people get that wrong.

Noteworthy that the other person who caught that is an ESL speaker.

Apparently "free reign" is so common it's now an acceptable alternative, like "shoe-in" and "vocal chord" (if this (http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=3737179) is to be believed).
Well I'm usually careful about things like this and I guess I always thought it WAS "free reign" like a king who is free to do whatever he wants!  I guess I learned something new today. :-) And am with 46% of Americans....

Also do all AnthroPCs not use abbreviations?  I haven't been paying attention, but if they're like Data I guess it makes sense! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 06 Sep 2011, 17:04
Well frak me!  I unintentionally called it!!

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I wonder if Tai hired her to stare at her ass - Momos that is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: LoveJaneAusten on 06 Sep 2011, 17:20
May be Tai has been proven to be worthy of their trust? Hmm. I have always felt that Tai would be in grad school. She was at least TAing at some point, wasn't she?

What on earth makes you think Tai would be a graduate student? :psyduck: She's so obviously an undergrad in her characterization. She's easily the most impulsive character, who among the others thinks least about the long-term consequences of her actions. These are not grad student traits.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheCollector on 06 Sep 2011, 17:56
Y'know, I don't remember how Tai feels on this certain subject.
But maybe Tai was so quick to hire Momo just to have someone working there that has a flatter chest then hers. The other girls at the college will think her big in comparison. Lol.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 06 Sep 2011, 18:16
Drive-thru, donut, Syfy...

 :lol:
Don't even get me started on them changing their name from Science Fiction to "siffy". :psyduck:
Or how Sleuth is now called "Cloo". No, I'm not kidding. And that's exactly how they spell it, too.


Moving on, ohai Butts Disease. Although, what butt qualifications is Marten referring to? Other than the usual suspects.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Sep 2011, 18:16
LJA, I agree.  I think the one thing for the grad student argument though is that she mentions TAing a class.  I have had undergrad TAs before, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Sep 2011, 19:18
I vaguely remember that it was a creative writing class.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Sep 2011, 19:22
What's on tap for this week?

At least ONE Yelling Bird Strip.    - 6 (7.4%)
Momo gets a job!    - 28 (34.6%) <--- BINGO!
The Band gets a gig!    - 7 (8.6%)
Faye gets another art commission!    - 1 (1.2%)
Pintsize wants an upgrade!    - 18 (22.2%)
Winslow wants an upgrade!    - 3 (3.7%)
We meet the 'rents - Marigold's dad!    - 2 (2.5%)
No, we finally meet Dadelore (HannerDad)!    - 3 (3.7%)
Even better: we meet Mrs. Farmer, and she's a psychologist!    - 2 (2.5%)
Happy Toaster Makes Fun Waffles For Everyone!    - 11 (13.6%)

Total Voters: 81
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Sep 2011, 19:41
Strip 777 mentions Tai TA-ing a creative writing class.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 06 Sep 2011, 19:48
TAs are undergrads. Graduate Assistants (GAs) are graduates. That's how I put myself through grad school.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TRVA123 on 06 Sep 2011, 20:52
Y'know, I don't remember how Tai feels on this certain subject.
But maybe Tai was so quick to hire Momo just to have someone working there that has a flatter chest then hers. The other girls at the college will think her big in comparison. Lol.

Or so she can hit on someone who is shorter than Tai for a change!

(although I really doubt it will ever happen, visually they would be a cute couple)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: wrwight on 06 Sep 2011, 21:13
archive divers, maybe you can back me up on this, but I'm fairly certain Tai once identified as male, so I doubt she has any kind of esteem issues related to her small chest. In fact, she might even minimize its appearance on purpose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 Sep 2011, 21:18
TAs are undergrads. Graduate Assistants (GAs) are graduates. That's how I put myself through grad school.

I believe you, of course, but when I was in grad school, we were assigned to TA duty. I guess there is some variation on the terminology.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 06 Sep 2011, 21:21
TAs are undergrads. Graduate Assistants (GAs) are graduates. That's how I put myself through grad school.

That's a definition not everyone seems to use. For example, Jorge Cham calls grad students TAs too (http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1406). Since the "T" stands for Teaching, there's probably no real distinction in the term. I've been a TA regularly a an undergrad; when I'm done next year I plan to continue that as a grad student.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Sep 2011, 21:23
Tai on androgyny (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=974)

She passed as male but didn't identify as male.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Sep 2011, 22:11
Wait, didn't Tai hire Maten because he knew what some obscure algorithm was slapped onto the application?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kyronea on 06 Sep 2011, 22:14
Wait, didn't Tai hire Maten because he knew what some obscure algorithm was slapped onto the application?
Close. He noticed the application was in iambic pentameter, said as much, and was hired on the spot as a result.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 06 Sep 2011, 23:47
On the downside Marten may be reduced to a lowly shelver.

Isn't that already what he does? 
Oh, hello, Mr. Tibetan Monk. Please leave your misogyny and bigottery elsewhere.

OK, please  thnk twice before calling someone names, like misogynist or bigot. 

Especially when they were just making fun of your meat-based bias! 
Yeah I'm really sorry about that, that was a bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kyronea on 07 Sep 2011, 00:32
Wait, didn't Tai hire Maten because he knew what some obscure algorithm was slapped onto the application?
Close. He noticed the application was in iambic pentameter, said as much, and was hired on the spot as a result.

To clarify, here's the comic in question, after fifteen minutes worth of searching and possible emoticon melting.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691

Marten comes in, looks a bit forlorn. Our intro to Tai develops over the next several pages. He is hired on the spot due to his recognizing that the application was written in iambic pentameter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: rje on 07 Sep 2011, 01:25

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...
Haha a machine getting OGLED ? LOL. All thats sweet lovely plastic and metal ... LOL.

As opposed to being attracted to walking meatsacks. Consistency of an uncooked steak. Constantly producing unsightly emissions. Covered in an epidermis that's in a constant state of death, imperceptibly shedding biomatter at all times. Bloated with fluids to the point of being approximately ninety percent water. Countless chemical reactions occurring within at any moment always causing the overall form to shift and alter itself. Aging at such a rate as to be measurable, inexorably visibly edging closer to the abyss so as to remind you of its' nonpermanence. Not to mention completely unsanitary to the point of actually being an ideal habitat for many bacterium.

Yeah. You'd have to be a real freak to be into those plastics and metals. It's all about the fluids and meats.

Daaaamn, is anyone else as turned on as I am?

Drive-thru, donut, Syfy...

 :lol:
NO
BAD >:(

(I should probably finish reading the whole thread before I comment, hurr
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: MightionNY on 07 Sep 2011, 01:27
inert!Momo is creepy. :)

Wait.... samples of what? *spooky chord*

and here's to Marigold and Winslow finally being in the same comic. :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tuitsuro on 07 Sep 2011, 01:40
Silly Winslow.  You can't cremate a robot!

...That's why we have trash compactors! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Sep 2011, 01:46
d'aw poor Winslow  :|

I too am curious about what these "samples" could possibly be. And whether or not it's safe for Marigold to sit on that couch after that test tube spilled on it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kyrendis on 07 Sep 2011, 01:49
1: Is it just me, or is the art style slightly different?

2: What the heck was in that test tube and now is all over the couch?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tuitsuro on 07 Sep 2011, 01:52
A green, clear liquid with which Winslow would have had access to... My guess is Hannelore's 'special brand' of homemade cleaning product.  
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Sep 2011, 02:02
I'm surprised that Marigold didn't part-exchange the chassis to keep the cost down, given that cost is an issue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 07 Sep 2011, 02:13
and here's to Marigold and Winslow finally being in the same comic. :D

Huh. I hadn't noticed that this is the first time.

And yeah, the inert chassis is kind of creepy. I remember Marten said he keeps an old Pintsize chassis in the closet. Does Hanners still have the one her father sent her, or did she return that?

I'd be reluctant to get rid of them; I've also kept my old PCs around.

Also, this whole strip felt like a shout-out to something, especially the "SSSSSSAMPLES" title, but it doesn't ring any bells.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 07 Sep 2011, 02:43
I'm surprised that Marigold didn't part-exchange the chassis to keep the cost down, given that cost is an issue.
Maybe there is no demand any more for these "old" chassis.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Blackjoker on 07 Sep 2011, 02:44
I'm surprised that Marigold didn't part-exchange the chassis to keep the cost down, given that cost is an issue.

If Momo changes her mind having the old chasis is a good idea. It's also useful in case the newer one gets damaged or has some other issue.

Also, Winslow is rather adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 07 Sep 2011, 02:45
I'm surprised that Marigold didn't part-exchange the chassis to keep the cost down, given that cost is an issue.

That was my thought as well actually.  

But then again, it may be that Momo has decided to keep her old Chassis as a backup for herself should she have any teething problems with her new one.

Most definitely keep Pintsize away from her old Chassis - The prospects should he find it are too horrible to contemplate!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Cornan on 07 Sep 2011, 02:57
Today's punchline got a genuine laugh out of me.

It's so nice to see that Winslow takes care of his friends!  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Taigan on 07 Sep 2011, 03:33
Oh god,  what if Pintsize downloaded himself into Momo's old chassis?   :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Sep 2011, 03:36
Oh god,  what if Pintsize downloaded himself into Momo's old chassis?   :-o

Can AthroPC's have Gender Confusion Issues?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 07 Sep 2011, 03:52
Something else I just noticed: Why does AnthroPCs' hair and skin fade when their chassis are empty? In #2000 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2000) I thought it was a trick of the light first, but the colors definitely became more vivid when Momo was transferred (along with her joint seams becoming invisible). And now in  #2008 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2008), her old chassis looks "faded" as well.

I'm also wondering how the transfer itself works, and the implications. If they simply copy the personality and then delete the old version, is it still the same Momo philosophically? And what about cloning personalities into multiple chassis?

(On that note, I just had a creepy image of an army of thousands of Pintsizes taking over the world a la Agent Smith.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 07 Sep 2011, 04:11
Every fiftieth strand of 'hair' is actually a strand of electroluminescent filament. They light up to show the exoskeleton is 'occupied' probably. :p

Also, anyone else notice how much better Marigold looks when she's not trying to hide behind herself or looking fearful?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Sep 2011, 04:48
Can AthroPC's have Gender Confusion Issues?

Anthro PCs' gender (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=347).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Rainforce on 07 Sep 2011, 05:09
1: Is it just me, or is the art style slightly different?

2: What the heck was in that test tube and now is all over the couch?

1: Not really, Marigold just got up, so she's drawn with bed hair and drowsy eyes. (at least I assume that's the source of your confusion)
2: me! D:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Sep 2011, 05:23
(On that note, I just had a creepy image of an army of thousands of Pintsizes taking over the world a la Agent Smith.)

SPOILER WARNING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQyuIQmVelA)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 07 Sep 2011, 05:38
That liquid reminds me of a recent guest strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1975).  It seems more plausible now that Momo is making veiled threats (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2006).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: kent_eh on 07 Sep 2011, 06:52
I'm surprised that Marigold didn't part-exchange the chassis to keep the cost down, given that cost is an issue.

Ohhh, yeah.

Week 1, you  get the head and left foot....

I'd love to see Jeph draw that. Half Momo1.0, half  V2.0. One arm longer than the other, full size torso with tiny legs...
 :-D



Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 07 Sep 2011, 08:23
Wait, didn't Tai hire Maten because he knew what some obscure algorithm was slapped onto the application?
Close. He noticed the application was in iambic pentameter, said as much, and was hired on the spot as a result.

To clarify, here's the comic in question, after fifteen minutes worth of searching and possible emoticon melting.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691

Marten comes in, looks a bit forlorn. Our intro to Tai develops over the next several pages. He is hired on the spot due to his recognizing that the application was written in iambic pentameter.

I must ask, what are the three hidden jokes in that particular strip?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Sep 2011, 08:36
What does it mean that Momo couldn't get a job when she went through town looking?

It could be the economy: Marten complained about the job market in an early strip.

Is there discrimination against robots?

Of course it may be as simple as Momo's lack of job experience.

Without the library job, could she have pursued self-employment? Use her social protocol database to be a tutor to people who want to learn social skills?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Sep 2011, 09:11
I must ask, what are the three hidden jokes in that particular strip?

Not so much individual jokes as possibly nerdy references:

Unless I've missed the point as well  :~)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Sep 2011, 09:36
What happens if you copy an AnthroPC personality from one chassis to another without deleting the old copy?

Imagine two copies of Pintsize running around. If you dare.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 07 Sep 2011, 09:42
I must ask, what are the three hidden jokes in that particular strip?

Not so much individual jokes as possibly nerdy references:
  • mention of iambic pentameters (http://shakespeare.about.com/od/shakespeareslanguage/a/i_pentameter.htm)
  • Tai's reply is an iambic pentameter (yes, I've only just noticed!)
  • reference to library filing system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Decimal_Classification) invented by Dewey

Unless I've missed the point as well  :~)

Marten's question also almost manages to be a Haiku. I keep looking trying to figure out if it's supposed to be the third joke or not. I'm not good at the whole poetry thing so I'm not sure whether it actually is a haiku and I just don't know what rule allows that syllable to be in the second line instead of the third or what's going on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 07 Sep 2011, 11:16
How did Winslow get to Marigold's?  Does she live in the same building?  How would he operate doors?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Doctor Vendetta on 07 Sep 2011, 11:36

I'm also wondering how the transfer itself works, and the implications. If they simply copy the personality and then delete the old version, is it still the same Momo philosophically? And what about cloning personalities into multiple chassis?


I thought they just swapped her hard drive (or equivalent) into the new chassis?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TinPenguin on 07 Sep 2011, 11:49
How did Winslow get to Marigold's?  Does she live in the same building?  How would he operate doors?

Yes, they do live in the same building. And we have seen multiple times that Pintsize, Winslow and little Momo are quite capable of getting around to visit each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 07 Sep 2011, 12:16
Not in the same building but in close neighbourhood, where "over the river is far away". ;)

As for getting around, getting in, etc. - Boring stuff like that just eats up to much real estate in the constrained format of a comic strip.

So I assume, anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 07 Sep 2011, 13:03
I'm surprised that Marigold didn't part-exchange the chassis to keep the cost down, given that cost is an issue.
Maybe there is no demand any more for these "old" chassis.
Ever since the XP-38 came out, they just aren't in demand.

What happens if you copy an AnthroPC personality from one chassis to another without deleting the old copy?

Imagine two copies of Pintsize running around. If you dare.
Maybe QCverse AIs are like RvBverse AIs in that you can't copy them, but you could torture them until they fragment in a form of AI multiple personality disorder. So, imagine a fragment of Pintsize inhabitting Momo created by torturing the original to the brink of in-- san-- ity.

I don't think I dare to imagine this line of reasoning anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Sorflakne on 07 Sep 2011, 13:49
I could so see Pintsize uploading himself into Momo's old chassis to mess with everyone.

And apparently an AI within a chassis makes it brighter, as 'dead' Momo is less pink in the hair and eyes, so apparently those areas glow or light up or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 07 Sep 2011, 13:55
What happens if you copy an AnthroPC personality from one chassis to another without deleting the old copy?

Imagine two copies of Pintsize running around. If you dare.

... Each thinking it's the original.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 07 Sep 2011, 14:41

I'm also wondering how the transfer itself works, and the implications. If they simply copy the personality and then delete the old version, is it still the same Momo philosophically? And what about cloning personalities into multiple chassis?


I thought they just swapped her hard drive (or equivalent) into the new chassis?

#2000 implies the transfer is by wire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Heliphyneau on 07 Sep 2011, 15:12
OK, first:  EEEEEEEeeeee Winslow!   :-D  Now that that's out of the way . . .  I'm really liking the nuMomo arc so far, her journey and growth as an individual in a new chassis that alters others' perceptions of her.  I think the library will be a good fit for her.  Momo may still be naive, but she does have that social protocol database in her, so she's not without any clue on interactions.  Odds are her experiences will enable her to add some footnotes to that.

I noticed the faded hair color of her old chassis in this strip too -- probably just Jeph's way of signalling to us "nobody home" -- though I'm not sure if there's an equivalent of that for Pintsize and Winslow.  I suppose in the context of the strip it could be handwaved as "the hairs are fibers connected to LEDs" or something.

And while Momo lives in a different building from Winslow and Pintsize, there may be other ways of bridging the distance.  Maybe Winslow rode a flying Roomba there, or used clotheslines as ziplines, or used a secret underground tunnel, or thumbed (pseudopodded?  appendaged?) a ride from someone. 

I . . . am very curious about what the hell the "samples" were, but I hav a feeling we'll never find out.  Unless the couch dissolves, or becomes sentient, or emits a steady stream of hyper-intelligent ant-men . . . or just has sort of a pine scent for awhile.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 07 Sep 2011, 15:19
Quote
the hairs are fibers connected to LEDs

In reality, that would probably look so freaky it might actually trigger uncanny valley.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Sep 2011, 16:03
How did Winslow get to Marigold's?  Does she live in the same building?  How would he operate doors?

Yes, they do live in the same building. And we have seen multiple times that Pintsize, Winslow and little Momo are quite capable of getting around to visit each other.

And one strip where Winslow had opened the door to Pintsize. (can't find said strip)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Sep 2011, 16:19
Winslow lives on the floor above Pintsize in the same building; Momo lives elseswhere
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TheCollector on 07 Sep 2011, 16:33
Y'know, I thought I noticed this the first comic to feature her new chassis, but now I'm seeing it again here, it seems that theses Chassis' hair color dulls when they're offline.
Just look at that first comic, starts off dull then turns vibrant pink. Now in this the old chassis' hair is dull when it used to be vibrant.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Sep 2011, 16:39
That sample just appears to be so much of a Chekov's gun - or it's just a brick joke that Jeph's setting us up for.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 07 Sep 2011, 17:03
Not so much individual jokes as possibly nerdy references:
  • mention of iambic pentameters (http://shakespeare.about.com/od/shakespeareslanguage/a/i_pentameter.htm)
  • Tai's reply is an iambic pentameter (yes, I've only just noticed!)
  • reference to library filing system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Decimal_Classification) invented by Dewey
Unless I've missed the point as well  :~)
I think Tai's Dewey Decimal line is also an iambic pentameter, but I am very wobbly on English/Western poetical forms.

Marten's question also almost manages to be a Haiku. I keep looking trying to figure out if it's supposed to be the third joke or not. I'm not good at the whole poetry thing so I'm not sure whether it actually is a haiku and I just don't know what rule allows that syllable to be in the second line instead of the third or what's going on.
Haiku in English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English) are very loose. While the three-line form is still typical (In Japanese, haiku are normally written as a single line. The three-line thing is a Western convention), the 5-7-5 "rule" was never universal, and syllable counts anywhere from 10-17 seem to be regarded as acceptable.

Do AnthroPCs gradually adopt their owner's quirks? Winslow seems to have adopted his owner's habit of taking surreptitious samples.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TinPenguin on 07 Sep 2011, 17:34
Not so much individual jokes as possibly nerdy references:
  • mention of iambic pentameters (http://shakespeare.about.com/od/shakespeareslanguage/a/i_pentameter.htm)
  • Tai's reply is an iambic pentameter (yes, I've only just noticed!)
  • reference to library filing system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Decimal_Classification) invented by Dewey
Unless I've missed the point as well  :~)
I think Tai's Dewey Decimal line is also an iambic pentameter, but I am very wobbly on English/Western poetical forms.

It isn't. It has eleven syllables, so it can't be a pentameter or iambic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Rimwolf on 07 Sep 2011, 17:39
I took the third joke in 691 to be the sign on the desk, an homage to one of my favorite lines of literature:
Shut up he explained.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 07 Sep 2011, 19:54
I'm with Winslow. The old chassis needs to be kept away from Pintsize. If only on moral grounds.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: idontunderstand on 07 Sep 2011, 23:15
I took the third joke in 691 to be the sign on the desk, an homage to one of my favorite lines of literature:
Shut up he explained.

Hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Tova on 08 Sep 2011, 00:48
I assume that Rimwolf is referring to:

http://everything2.com/user/Quizro/writeups/%2522Shut+up%252C%2522+he+explained

And I think that's drawing a bit of a long bow, honestly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 08 Sep 2011, 01:58
Maybe the only two jokes are the iambic pentameter and the Dewey pun, and the third joke is that there is none (http://xkcd.com/559/)?

Edit: Also new comic, yay!

Also, this confirms that Momo is actually indistinguishable from a human in-universe. Considering that that technology exists and is (barely) affordable on an average income, I'm surprised there aren't more human-looking people around who are robots. Or maybe there are (Padma doesn't look that shocked to find out), but there aren't any in the main cast.

As far as we know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2011, 03:13
Oh Padma, never change. *snerk*

I wonder if tSB has charging points/wi-fi for customers?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 08 Sep 2011, 03:14
I wonder if tSB has charging points/wi-fi for customers?

For customers' portable computers, or for customers like Momo?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 08 Sep 2011, 03:17
I knew there was gonna be a reference to robophilia!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Sep 2011, 03:21
Momo's social protocol database is either offline, or sophisticated enough to know when to mess with people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: snubnose on 08 Sep 2011, 03:22
Hmpf Padma is really, really, really a slow thinker, isnt she ?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Loki on 08 Sep 2011, 03:23
Padma is, in fact, a robot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: WAYF on 08 Sep 2011, 03:28
Padma seems rather like some of my friends: latching onto an idea (usually an incorrect one) and then running with it for the rest of the conversation, regardless of whether people attempt to correct her.

In my experience, that SHOULD mean that she's a lot smarter than she appears. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Switchblade on 08 Sep 2011, 03:30
I think she might just be trolling.

Like, constantly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 08 Sep 2011, 03:38
Hmm...

I'm remembering the Roombas and wondering if human/AI relationships are actually capable of bearing offspring within the QC-verse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: westrim on 08 Sep 2011, 03:48
*high fives Marten* "Way to go, man!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2011, 03:55
I wonder if tSB has charging points/wi-fi for customers?

For customers' portable computers, or for customers like Momo?
Yes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Border Reiver on 08 Sep 2011, 04:47
Padma's not the sharpest knife in the....place where they keep the knives is she?  (Sorry, the youngest is on a bit of a Toy Story 3 kick right now...)

All set now for the QC/BSG crossover!  Baltaar bangs, well anything that he can!  Sven tries to match his record on Galactica!  Faye and Starbuck see who can lead the most self-destructive lifestyle on their road to redemption.  And Pintsize sees what he can do with a Centurion's chassis! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2011, 04:55
Now there's an image: Faye and Starbuck arguing about coffee, mass marketing, and robots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 08 Sep 2011, 04:57
Momo's social protocol database is either offline, or sophisticated enough to know when to mess with people.

Given her reply in the last panel, I'm not convinced that she isn't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 08 Sep 2011, 05:27
Padma is either trolling constantly or just being dumb constantly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: daryljfontaine on 08 Sep 2011, 05:29
It isn't. It has eleven syllables, so it can't be a pentameter or iambic.

I submit that you are incorrect.

Oh joyous day, you passed the test.  You're hired (http://www.howmanysyllables.com/words/hired.html)!

D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 08 Sep 2011, 05:33
Padma is either trolling constantly or just being dumb constantly.
Or she can't resist a good punchline.

Pink eyes?  Come on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: TinPenguin on 08 Sep 2011, 05:35
I submit that you are incorrect.

I was replying to Akima's comment on Tai's Dewey Decimal line, so phhhrrrrrp.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skaltura on 08 Sep 2011, 05:42
Who's your daddy? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGjB_1lzbOw)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 08 Sep 2011, 05:47
Now there's an image: Faye and Starbuck arguing about coffee, mass marketing, and robots.

Someone named Starbuck is in for a rough time in CoD and (maybe) tSB. Faye will call him a smarmosaur.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Sylentknight on 08 Sep 2011, 05:57
Okay, this one made me actually laugh out-loud.
You've got to have some serious Mojo to make a robot pregnant. :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 08 Sep 2011, 06:01
...Padma? Are you high?  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: daryljfontaine on 08 Sep 2011, 06:18
I was replying to Akima's comment on Tai's Dewey Decimal line, so phhhrrrrrp.

You're right; on closer look, I see I erred.
Eleven syllables it is -- I'm dense.
Will you accept my clear apology?
My pedantry exceeded my good sense.

D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Black Sword on 08 Sep 2011, 06:29
oh joyous day! Padma! How I adore thee! If only I could meet a real life version of her!

...well, meet another and not totally screw up the relationship again BUT DETAILS, DETAILS!

Do you think Momo will try to get another part-time at The Secret Bakery? She doesn't need to sleep so much as periodically recharge and it doubles her income (give or take?), making it quicker for her to get Marigold off the ramen diet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 08 Sep 2011, 06:48
I could get used to see Momo and Padme interact, so I'd support that idea.   :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 08 Sep 2011, 06:49
...Padma? Are you high?  :laugh:
She has to be winding Marten up.

It isn't. It has eleven syllables, so it can't be a pentameter or iambic.

To err is human,
To forgive divine. My bad,
It is eleven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: YakkoRex on 08 Sep 2011, 07:18
I think it's HILARIOUS how Padme is thinking the worst of Marten.  He's a nerd that has his baby sister tagging along with him. No wait, he's a freak who fathered a child at age ten.  No?  Oh I get it, he's ... 

Marten has self worth issues, and the real world just keeps feeding them...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Throg on 08 Sep 2011, 10:23
I'd always assumed that the continued different speech bubbles for Momo, even in a humanoid APC chassis, was a subtle hint that she's an AI.  The slight difference in speech synthesis lets people know they're interacting with an AI, a convention out of courtesy.

Padma seems to be the only person NOT to have picked up on Momo being an AI -- but then again, Padma seems to be either (a) terminally, hopelessly oblivious, or (b) secretly enjoys trolling the heck out of everybody, so it's hard to tell. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: idontunderstand on 08 Sep 2011, 11:39
I assume that Rimwolf is referring to:

http://everything2.com/user/Quizro/writeups/%2522Shut+up%252C%2522+he+explained

And I think that's drawing a bit of a long bow, honestly.


Sorry, not working for me. And I can't figure out this google thing.  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: IanClark on 08 Sep 2011, 11:59
My favourite part isn't that Padma thinks Momo is Marten's sister or daughter or fails to notice that she's got pink eyes and pink hair (which could easily be a dye job, I guess), it's the fact that she completely ignores the fact that Momo is literally a giant walking, talking anime character. She definitely has to be pulling Marten's chain. And she's awesome at it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 08 Sep 2011, 12:47
I'm with the "Marten set up a nice punchline and Padma jumped on it" crowd. Oh well, tomorrow will probably clear everything up.

Although, I wonder....has it really been 2.7 years since Momo first arrived? #toolazytoarchivebinge
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 08 Sep 2011, 12:59
It was in this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1298) strip that Momo showed up for the first time.

However, she only stated that she and Marigold had "moved in", which doesn't actually says much about her age.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2011, 13:42
It isn't. It has eleven syllables, so it can't be a pentameter or iambic.

I submit that you are incorrect.

Oh joyous day, you passed the test.  You're hired (http://www.howmanysyllables.com/words/hired.html)!

D
I respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2011, 13:44
It was in this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1298) strip that Momo showed up for the first time.

However, she only stated that she and Marigold had "moved in", which doesn't actually says much about her age.
It also doesn't cover whether she means to include only the time since she became a fully "mature" A-PC personality or the total time since her original seed program was first initialised in the AI "crèche" Jeph mentioned in the newspost a while back.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Near Lurker on 08 Sep 2011, 13:54
I vaguely remember there's some rule that lets you be more flexible with iambic meter at the end of a line, at least in English where unstressed syllables disappear like they do...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 08 Sep 2011, 14:27
Momo's robot voice went away in the last panel.  Is she becoming a real girl, ala Pinocchio?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2011, 14:52
I have decided I love Padma's "wow that's crazy" guileless wide-eyed stare in the last panel. Much kudos to the artist for that one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 08 Sep 2011, 15:28
The Dewey line is simply a terrible (in other words, wonderful) pun.
And yes, I think Padma is a legpuller par excellance. To everyone. The gleeful expression Jeph gives her whenever she does that can't mean anything else.
And really, I hope that's the explanation. 'Cause I can't stand it when someone's that clueless for real.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Near Lurker on 08 Sep 2011, 15:56
...what college library uses the Dewey decimal system, anyway?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2011, 16:13
Lots? Mine did for sure. Besides, what would you rather have? Straight alphabetic by title? Scent marks? The Library of Congress system? >_~
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: LeeC on 08 Sep 2011, 16:15
...what college library uses the Dewey decimal system, anyway?
the Luddite University of South Hampton of course!  LUSH is known to be a party school.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Rimwolf on 08 Sep 2011, 17:55
I assume that Rimwolf is referring to:

http://everything2.com/user/Quizro/writeups/%2522Shut+up%252C%2522+he+explained

And I think that's drawing a bit of a long bow, honestly.


Sorry, not working for me. And I can't figure out this google thing.  :cry:

The quote is by Ring Lardner, from his 1920 humorous novel The Young Immigrants. Not that I ever read it -- I just saw the quote somewhere and was taken with it.

Yeah, it's kind of a stretch. Probably the more obvious joke is that the sign says "shut up" rather than "quiet please" or whatever the normal entry in the librarian protocol database is. If so, then there's the symmetry that all 3 were from Tai: (1) Dewey/do-we (2) "Oh joyous day"/iambic pentameter (3) snarky sign. But since Jeph said the jokes were nerdy, I thought I'd nerd out on it.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Sep 2011, 18:33
I wonder if the wind whistles between Padmas ears?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: J on 08 Sep 2011, 18:57
Padma is either trolling constantly or just being dumb constantly.
maybe padma's the secret bakery equivalent of raven. in which case it could be either, bit it's probably both.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Sorflakne on 08 Sep 2011, 19:33
For some reason, I found today's comic unbelievably adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Throg on 08 Sep 2011, 19:36
Momo's robot voice went away in the last panel.  Is she becoming a real girl, ala Pinocchio?

wuh-oh, they're improving their speech synthetics. 

Or Jeph just made a font error. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Sep 2011, 19:38
I'll take "Font Errors" for $500, Alex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 08 Sep 2011, 19:56
I'll take "Font Errors" for $500, Alex.
Answer: The Daily Double.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Near Lurker on 08 Sep 2011, 22:35
Lots? Mine did for sure. Besides, what would you rather have? Straight alphabetic by title? Scent marks? The Library of Congress system? >_~

(Hint: it's the last one.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: idontunderstand on 08 Sep 2011, 23:20
I assume that Rimwolf is referring to:

http://everything2.com/user/Quizro/writeups/%2522Shut+up%252C%2522+he+explained

And I think that's drawing a bit of a long bow, honestly.


Sorry, not working for me. And I can't figure out this google thing.  :cry:

The quote is by Ring Lardner, from his 1920 humorous novel The Young Immigrants. Not that I ever read it -- I just saw the quote somewhere and was taken with it.

Yeah, it's kind of a stretch. Probably the more obvious joke is that the sign says "shut up" rather than "quiet please" or whatever the normal entry in the librarian protocol database is. If so, then there's the symmetry that all 3 were from Tai: (1) Dewey/do-we (2) "Oh joyous day"/iambic pentameter (3) snarky sign. But since Jeph said the jokes were nerdy, I thought I'd nerd out on it.



Well, thanks for your nerdy time. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Shremedy on 08 Sep 2011, 23:39
Can AthroPC's have Gender Confusion Issues?

Anthro PCs' gender (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=347).
A different strip's (amusing) view on robot gender:  Freefall, April 4, 2007 (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1500/fv01403.htm)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: raoullefere on 08 Sep 2011, 23:52
Actually, I think Padma is winding Marten up at first, then gets sucked into her own propwash by Momo's comment and Marten's response. Of course, that's mainly based on her change of expression and body language, but it's my take, and I'm sticking with it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: ysth on 09 Sep 2011, 00:03
The giveaway is the similarity in hair color.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Sep 2011, 01:08
Padma is either trolling constantly or just being dumb constantly.
maybe padma's the secret bakery equivalent of raven. in which case it could be either, bit it's probably both.

Or Padma is really an AntroPC in a Humanoid Body!! She probably goes to 4chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica in order to troll people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Cornan on 09 Sep 2011, 01:30
Padma is either trolling constantly or just being dumb constantly.
maybe padma's the secret bakery equivalent of raven. in which case it could be either, bit it's probably both.

Honestly, I hadn't thought of that before. Padma is Secret Bakery's Raven, isn't she? That makes her make a lot more sense to me as a character. Not that it's a 1:1 match, but the similarities help to flesh her out some in my mind. Good call.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Throg on 09 Sep 2011, 03:47
D'aaww.  I'll say it again: d'aaaaawwwwwww   :-)

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Somebody on 09 Sep 2011, 04:48
Y'know, Momo never actually answered the first question. 'Specially given her expression/reason at the end...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: EcoReck on 09 Sep 2011, 05:07
A Pokemon Joke? Ahhhhh. Why did I laugh so much. I feel nerdy :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: WAYF on 09 Sep 2011, 05:09
Hahahaha, I completely missed that that was Samantha at first.

D'aaww.  I'll say it again: d'aaaaawwwwwww

D'awww?


...

...oh alright, D'awwwwwwwwwww :D

But only if Samantha doesn't just disappear by next week. :P

EDIT - Wow, it's the end of the week already. My timing is waaayy off.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Border Reiver on 09 Sep 2011, 05:12
Who starts up conversations with a question like that?  I mean, Sam was there any clue that the girl sitting at the table with the really nervous body language is into a card game designed to suck the spending money out of your pockets?

Now, if she'd asked about Warhammer....

Yeah, I know - "Mr. Pot, this is Ms. Kettle.  She'd like to discuss your present hue..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Sep 2011, 05:26
Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 09 Sep 2011, 05:33
She's impressed that a walking computer can recall data? How is that impressive again?

SELECT POKEMON_NAME FROM POKEMON_POKEDEX WHERE POKEMON_NUMBER = x

Edit: I take it back for now, there is a slight chance she doesn't know she's talking to a robot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Sep 2011, 05:36
Meh, it wouldn't surprise me if Momo actually knows that kind of  stuff because of Marigold.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 09 Sep 2011, 05:40
I've had stranger conversational openings, Border ... Pulled up to a parking spot and a little girl, maybe 10 or 12, beamed at me and said, out of the blue, "Your car's cuuuuuuuute!" And then she stuck her face back into her sno-cone and went on her way,
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 09 Sep 2011, 05:40
I think I'm gonna like this new character a lot. Socially awkward but not reclusive. The kind of person who would walk up to a stranger in a bakery and introduce herself with "Do.... you like pokemon?". Just oozes adorable in her introduction and I can only see fun places it could go from there.

She could prove an interesting pair with Momo since Momo's remarkably socially outgoing. Could turn out into a more extroverted version of the Marigold/Hanners premise. Though I'd never accuse Jeph of recycling characters. Limited information on New Girl (name?) yet so relying on crude approximations for the characters. Seems though like we got a nerdy socially awkward girl with confidence and a healthy degree of extroversion paired with a full blown extrovert who's idiosyncrasies and inexperience are more than sufficient to create a certain degree of social fumbling and who's quite comfortable with the nerdier subject matters. Don't mean nerd in a derogatory fashion either. Just can't think of a better word right now. Just got out of bed and I'm typing this out before class.

So I was gonna ask how old she was because I strongly suspect she's not be a SMIF student but we think She's the bakery owner's kid? That could be interesting.

Also

She's impressed that a walking computer can recall data? How is that impressive again?

SELECT POKEMON_NAME FROM POKEMON_POKEDEX WHERE POKEMON_NUMBER = x


Do we know that AIs have perfect memorization in this universe? Seems they could have a system similar to humans for prioritizing which information gets stored anywhere where it could be immediately recalled on the drop of a pin or gets stored at all.

Though I really think a lot of people are making assumptions about how obvious Momo's status as an AI is. I mean sure, there are cues. The ears. Her eyes behave a little differently from normal eyes. I don't think I'd clue into it from the moment I see her from down the hall though. At some point you probably notice, but hell. I've hung out with a guy for three days before noticing he was missing a hand. I can't imagine everyone just starts cataloging her anatomy the moment they approach her or are approached.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 09 Sep 2011, 05:41
Meh, it wouldn't surprise me if Momo actually knows that kind of  stuff because of Marigold.

Right, she probably defines all databases with information that helps her relationship with Marigold important, so she never deletes them to make room for new information.  I assume she has an encyclopedic knowledge of all video games and anime.  Odds are she does spider the Internet for extra information about certain topics as a background task.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Coolfusis on 09 Sep 2011, 05:47
Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol

Marten is slouching :P Plus, females hit puberty faster, so even at 13-14, they're likely only a few inches shorter than their max height will be. (but yes, marten seems to be pretty short)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Sep 2011, 05:55
I think I'm gonna like this new character a lot.
I'm pretty damn sure she's not a new character (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957)

Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol
Marten is slouching :P Plus, females hit puberty faster, so even at 13-14, they're likely only a few inches shorter than their max height will be. (but yes, marten seems to be pretty short)
Heh, I didn't count on that, thanks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 09 Sep 2011, 06:18
So...
Marten has now independently met the daughter of Dora's new business ally/date/friend, and potentially none of them are aware of the common threads.
This is usually the set-up for Comedy of Errors style plots.

I just hope Sam (is that her canon name?) doesn't simultaneously develop a crush on Marten and an irrational loathing for Momo then say something unguarded where her father can misinterpret it and try to sic VespAvenger on either of them...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 09 Sep 2011, 06:56
Y'know, Momo never actually answered the first question.
You noticed that too, eh? Momo is running her social protocol subsystem, and at least her original hardware and programming was Japanese (well Sony anyway). As in my ancestral culture, a polite evasion would always be preferable to a bald "No".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Sep 2011, 07:02
I'm noticing recently that Jeph has started showing eyebrows through light hair - he didn't in the past, e.g. 1588 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1588).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: ocelott on 09 Sep 2011, 07:21
My first thought on reading this strip was "Man, I remember when there were only 150 pokemon."

Feeling old and cranky now.  Excuse me, I have to go wave my cane at some kids on my lawn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 09 Sep 2011, 07:36
My first thought was: Pokemon?
Kids, these days!

Well, okay, I spent a lot of my pocket money on collectable pictures of famous soccer players as a child, but that was different.    :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 09 Sep 2011, 07:43
So...
Marten has now independently met the daughter of Dora's new business ally/date/friend, and potentially none of them are aware of the common threads.
This is usually the set-up for Comedy of Errors style plots.

I just hope Sam (is that her canon name?) doesn't simultaneously develop a crush on Marten and an irrational loathing for Momo then say something unguarded where her father can misinterpret it and try to sic VespAvenger on either of them...

Just going by 2010, the year they make contact, I see more of a setup for Sam and Momo to befome BFFs (although I don't know why moving into a physically larger chassis would regress Momo to a tween; she acted in her other chassis as a tiny adult).

The development I fear would be the founding of the Sam- and -Faye School of Cooking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 09 Sep 2011, 08:11
Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol
Tai?

I'm noticing recently that Jeph has started showing eyebrows through light hair - he didn't in the past, e.g. 1588 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1588).
That's just Momo. She is still culturally Japanese and that's in keeping with the manga style she's drawn after.

Sure, Momo may be knowledgeable about Pokemon, but could she tell you, off the cuff, who played Runningback for the 1986 L.A. Raiders?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 09 Sep 2011, 08:17
Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol

Also, Momo appears even younger than Samantha now. When the chassis was introduced in #2000 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2000), it seemed to look about 20.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: helenmariet on 09 Sep 2011, 08:18
Hasn't Jeph mentioned somewhere on his Tumblr that he has a tendency to draw all the female characters as being fairly tall?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Sep 2011, 08:19
Faye, Dora and Cosette are all shown slightly shorter than Marten when they appear together, but Hanners is taller.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: HiFranc on 09 Sep 2011, 08:19
[...]

Just going by 2010, the year they make contact, I see more of a setup for Sam and Momo to befome BFFs (although I don't know why moving into a physically larger chassis would regress Momo to a tween; she acted in her other chassis as a tiny adult).

I don't think that she's changed that much (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27205.msg1054085.html#msg1054085).

[...]

Also, Momo appears even younger than Samantha now. When the chassis was introduced in #2000 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2000), it seemed to look about 20.

I think that's probably because Momo is wearing clothes that are a little too big for her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 09 Sep 2011, 08:45
I just hope Sam (is that her canon name?) doesn't simultaneously develop a crush on Marten...

She's thirteen. I mean, ew...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: wrwight on 09 Sep 2011, 09:13
13 year old girls develop crushes. He didn't say the feeling was mutual. He was setting up a comedy of errors in which Jim gets the wrong idea about Marten. I don't see this going that way, but it is very sitcom-esque.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Sep 2011, 09:25
she acted in her other chassis as a tiny adult).
Whenever she was taking care of Marigold, definitely. When she was playing WoW or thought she was being returned, more childlike.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Sep 2011, 10:45
So, only sticking to the Gen iV and Gen V. No love for the other gens I see. Damn kids these days.... (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=261)

Also, Momo uses Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page), not Wikipedia.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 09 Sep 2011, 11:06
Yeah, I don't think there's any question that that's Jim's daughter (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957) Samantha (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1958).

Answers my initial question on seeing her in the comic of "what's a 13yo doing by herself in a coffee shop?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2011, 11:30
Grabbing a free muffin after school, du-uh!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 09 Sep 2011, 11:33
Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol
Tai?

I'm noticing recently that Jeph has started showing eyebrows through light hair - he didn't in the past, e.g. 1588 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1588).
That's just Momo. She is still culturally Japanese and that's in keeping with the manga style she's drawn after.

Sure, Momo may be knowledgeable about Pokemon, but could she tell you, off the cuff, who played Runningback for the 1986 L.A. Raiders?

SELECT LAST_NAME, FIRST_NAME FROM NFL_PLAYERS WHERE YEAR = '1986' AND TEAM = 'Raiders' AND POSITION = 'RB' ORDER BY RUSHING_YARDS DESC LIMIT 1

Of course, this is assuming she chose to download a player database.  While it would be very useful for conversation with most men, Momo is only around people who seem to care less about sports.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 09 Sep 2011, 11:45
13 year old girls develop crushes. He didn't say the feeling was mutual. He was setting up a comedy of errors in which Jim gets the wrong idea about Marten. I don't see this going that way, but it is very sitcom-esque.

Marten does seem to have some sort of attraction for childlike women seeking a big brother figure. That's if you consider Hanners and Momo a suffiecent sample size, and it doesn't explain Dora (or maybe it eventually will ...).

Well, that's my hypothesis and I'll observe further.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 09 Sep 2011, 11:50
It certainly doesn't explain Faye.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: SirDudley on 09 Sep 2011, 11:57
Pokemon #721. That is so going to be in the next Pokemon game it's not even funny. And it will be unabashedly based off of Yelling Bird. And it will be a Legendary with an absurdly low catch rate.

Hmm...it seems we are on the way to Momo having her first new friend that's outside of the regular QC circle. This seems promising.



Warning - while you were reading 2 new Pokemon species have been discovered. You may wish to review your post.
GOD DAMN IT.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Sep 2011, 12:09
While it would be very useful for conversation with most men, Momo is only around people who seem to care less about sports.
Correct, but it's interesting that she asked Angus for the sports section of the paper in 1772(and let's not drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out why Momo would read a physical newspaper).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2011, 12:21
It certainly doesn't explain Faye.  :-D

You never got beat up by your younger sister?    :roll:


Neither did I.  I have three younger brothers...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2011, 12:49
Wait wait wait..... Is she Sam? Like... the girl that was like 13 years old?
Holy shit she's tall... Or Marten is far shorter that I'd have thought. Do you guys know any female characters in QC that aren't tall? lol
Tai?

I'm noticing recently that Jeph has started showing eyebrows through light hair - he didn't in the past, e.g. 1588 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1588).
That's just Momo. She is still culturally Japanese and that's in keeping with the manga style she's drawn after.

Sure, Momo may be knowledgeable about Pokemon, but could she tell you, off the cuff, who played Running back for the 1986 L.A. Raiders?

...Marcus Allen?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2011, 13:21
What's on tap for this week?

At least ONE Yelling Bird Strip.    - 9 (8.4%)
Momo gets a job!    - 35 (32.7%)
The Band gets a gig!    - 7 (6.5%)
Faye gets another art commission!    - 1 (0.9%)
Pintsize wants an upgrade!    - 21 (19.6%)
Winslow wants an upgrade!    - 3 (2.8%)
We meet the 'rents - Marigold's dad!    - 6 (5.6%)
No, we finally meet Dadelore (HannerDad)!    - 4 (3.7%)
Even better: we meet Mrs. Farmer, and she's a psychologist!    - 2 (1.9%)
Happy Toaster Makes Fun Waffles For Everyone!    - 19 (17.8%)

Total Voters: 107
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 09 Sep 2011, 13:43
13 year old girls develop crushes. He didn't say the feeling was mutual. He was setting up a comedy of errors in which Jim gets the wrong idea about Marten. I don't see this going that way, but it is very sitcom-esque.

Marten does seem to have some sort of attraction for childlike women seeking a big brother figure. That's if you consider Hanners and Momo a suffiecent sample size, and it doesn't explain Dora (or maybe it eventually will ...).

Well, that's my hypothesis and I'll observe further.


It certainly doesn't explain Faye.  :-D

Seems like there could be a lot of overlap between what attracts people who are inexperienced to the point of being childlike and what attracts people with chronic insecurities.

Marten's just a good grounding force. Got his feet deeply rooted in reality, he's mellow and helpful, he generally sounds like he knows what he's talking about, never makes a big deal out of the shortcomings, failings, or screwups of those around him. Always listens and knows just how to diffuse an emotionally turbulent situation.

I can see that he'd be equally attractive to both types of people. The same characteristics that made him invaluable to Faye also make him awesome for someone like Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 09 Sep 2011, 14:18

Marten's just a good grounding force. Got his feet deeply rooted in reality, he's mellow and helpful, he generally sounds like he knows what he's talking about, never makes a big deal out of the shortcomings, failings, or screwups of those around him. Always listens and knows just how to diffuse an emotionally turbulent situation.


http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 09 Sep 2011, 14:23
It certainly doesn't explain Faye.  :-D

Building on the response Gangler's already posted, one could argue Faye was indeed lookling for a good solid grounding force. Marten does seem to provide that. Grounded to the point you wonder if he'll ever leave the runway ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: CrowFairy on 09 Sep 2011, 14:35

Marten's just a good grounding force. Got his feet deeply rooted in reality, he's mellow and helpful, he generally sounds like he knows what he's talking about, never makes a big deal out of the shortcomings, failings, or screwups of those around him. Always listens and knows just how to diffuse an emotionally turbulent situation.


http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818
That's an isolated incident. He was severely depressed and very, very drunk. I'm not saying that excuses it, but that's one specific time.

It's just as easy to post a link to this comic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1262) (He does a ton of nice things for Dora and tries to cheer her up when he realizes she's not having a good day) or even this one (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1245), where he's making sure Tai is careful with Hanners. Even when his closest friends aren't around, he's not judging Hannelore for who she is and tries to take care of her. Even when things are awful, he still tries to do the right thing and can even appropriately bring in just the right amount of humor, like in this strip (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1106).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Sep 2011, 14:46
The drunk-marten-comic will always be a cheap try at proving any kind of point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Taigan on 09 Sep 2011, 14:47
If AnthroPC's have the internet constantly streaming through their head, then that explains so much about Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 09 Sep 2011, 14:52
It certainly doesn't explain Faye.  :-D

Building on the response Gangler's already posted, one could argue Faye was indeed lookling for a good solid grounding force. Marten does seem to provide that. Grounded to the point you wonder if he'll ever leave the runway ...

Now you mention it ...
It looks like a good description of their relationship.

Another way to see it, is, that Faye was in the beginning rather an older sister to Marten, even if she had to maintain this violently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2011, 17:52
If AnthroPC's have the internet constantly streaming through their head, then that explains so much about Pintsize.
If he was one of the earlier models, I'd suspect they may have put a damper or filter on that for future models so they could actually think.

I can just imagine an APC walking across the street trying to access 3,000 webpages at once and not noticing the Mack Truck bearing down on them... WHAM!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 09 Sep 2011, 18:08
Gotta catch 'em all.   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: themacnut on 09 Sep 2011, 19:19

Marten's just a good grounding force. Got his feet deeply rooted in reality, he's mellow and helpful, he generally sounds like he knows what he's talking about, never makes a big deal out of the shortcomings, failings, or screwups of those around him. Always listens and knows just how to diffuse an emotionally turbulent situation.


http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818

See if Marten made a habit out of getting falling down drunk and then getting mean with other characters, you'd have a point. But as others have pointed out, that's an exception. Marten only gets drunk once in a long while when he's feeling great emotional stress. Not the best response to it, true. And if he did it regularly, he'd become an alcoholic in no time. But all the above comic proves is that Marten is human, and like most humans, occasionally makes bad choices, especially under the influence of mind-altering substances.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 09 Sep 2011, 19:22
I'm noticing recently that Jeph has started showing eyebrows through light hair - he didn't in the past, e.g. 1588 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1588).
That's just Momo. She is still culturally Japanese and that's in keeping with the manga style she's drawn after.
Not just Momo, and not just light hair. See Marigold in the first panel of 2003 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2003). Unless anime conventions apply to her too?

Quote
Sure, Momo may be knowledgeable about Pokemon, but could she tell you, off the cuff, who played Runningback for the 1986 L.A. Raiders?
Marcus Allen was starting RB. Took me seconds in Google and I am a mere human. What does off-the-cuff mean to a networked AI? Off her internal mass-storage device?

Answers my initial question on seeing her in the comic of "what's a 13yo doing by herself in a coffee shop?"
Eh? Why wouldn't a 13-year-old be in a coffee-shop by herself? It's not place where minors are barred. At 13 my mother used to send me out shopping for groceries by myself, and I rode to and from school on my bicycle through city streets (compared to Shanghai, Sydney's traffic is a cake-walk). On the other hand, Jim does seem (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957) more the infantalising protective type.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2011, 20:20
Quote
Sure, Momo may be knowledgeable about Pokemon, but could she tell you, off the cuff, who played Runningback for the 1986 L.A. Raiders?
Marcus Allen was starting RB. Took me seconds in Google and I am a mere human. What does off-the-cuff mean to a networked AI? Off her internal mass-storage device?

I didn't need to. I guessed, and then looked it up. Of course, I generally remember things like that because I'm an (American) football fan.

EDIT: Samantha being at TSB wouldn't be unusual, especially since her dad owns the place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: themacnut on 09 Sep 2011, 20:38

Answers my initial question on seeing her in the comic of "what's a 13yo doing by herself in a coffee shop?"
Eh? Why wouldn't a 13-year-old be in a coffee-shop by herself? It's not place where minors are barred. At 13 my mother used to send me out shopping for groceries by myself, and I rode to and from school on my bicycle through city streets (compared to Shanghai, Sydney's traffic is a cake-walk). On the other hand, Jim does seem (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957) more the infantalising protective type.

Modern Westernized parents, and US parents in particular, have a tendency to be terrified something bad will happen to their child if that child is out of their sight or not safe at home, so they tend to get overprotective. Sending a child to the grocery store? Sure, if the store is only a couple of city blocks away or less, and the child had better have demonstrated to the parents' satisfaction that they know how to cross the street. But bike riding through traffic? Even relatively sedate US/Australian traffic? That would give most parents these days a heart attack just thinking about it. Yeah, parents tend to be overprotective these days, mainly because they perceive the world these days as more dangerous than when they grew up OR they had similarly overprotective parents themselves.

Then they wonder why they end up with kids who hardly do anything but stay in their rooms and play videogames or on the computer-at 17-18...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mad Cat on 09 Sep 2011, 21:53
She's not just a networked AI. She's an embodied AI, who (thankfully) wears clothes, so technicly, she does have cuffs.

And the only reason I know the answer to the sports question is because I formulated a rough template for the question and then went and Wikipedia's some sample answers to sample questions and picked a combo that can easily be answered from straight Wikipedia info.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 09 Sep 2011, 22:17
Akima: of course they're not barred, it's just not typical in my experience. I doubt Jim would want her to be drinking coffee

but on the other hand, it is the secret bakery ...  mmmm. baked goods.

maybe I need a cupcake

maybe I need more sleep
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Sep 2011, 00:57
Pokemon #721. That is so going to be in the next Pokemon game it's not even funny. And it will be unabashedly based off of Yelling Bird. And it will be a Legendary with an absurdly low catch rate.

I still want a R/S/E remake first.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 10 Sep 2011, 01:05
Momo is insulted about Marten suspecting that she is just googling things up. I think I like her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Sep 2011, 01:16
Modern Westernized parents, and US parents in particular, have a tendency to be terrified something bad will happen to their child if that child is out of their sight or not safe at home, so they tend to get overprotective.

At five, I was going to school by a short bus ride; at six a bus ride right across town.  At seven I was cycling in to town for choir practice, and cycling back in the dark*. I can't remember the age I was when I cycled to and from my family holiday for the year - 110 miles, stopping at a youth hostel on the way - about twelve years, maybe thirteen.


* My mother wrote a doggerel verse about it:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 10 Sep 2011, 02:52
As in my ancestral culture, a polite evasion would always be preferable to a bald "No".

This is just my opinion of course: I'm not a great fan of that kind of evasion.
Then again, Momo's answer was more about a "social protocole" rather than dishonesty which I can perfectly understand and even approve. Her answer is still different and far better than people who say "It's interesting" instead of saying that they just don't like it... I mean, talk about giving mixing signals to other people, jeez.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Sep 2011, 03:04
What was the MOMENT OF THE WEEK?

Good morning Faye! I made some coffee...    - 0 (0%)
SLUUUURRP (right from the pot)    - 2 (6.3%)
Is CoD hiring?    - 0 (0%)
"Tragic accident" (This stuff BETTER not be poisoned)    - 2 (6.3%)
Momo at the library! Are you hiring?    - 1 (3.1%)
"I've got free reign."    - 0 (0%)
"Is that something you are supposed to put on your resume?"    - 4 (12.5%)
Winslow brought Momo those samples...    - 1 (3.1%)
There's... there's nothing! Her entire system is blank!    - 1 (3.1%)
Big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO    - 3 (9.4%)
She got a new chassis. (We must burn it. To keep it out of Pintsize's hands.)    - 4 (12.5%)
Hey, mister triple-shot latte.    - 1 (3.1%)
Technically, I'm only 2.7 years old.    - 0 (0%)
You got a robot PREGNANT?    - 10 (31.3%)
Samantha meets Momo!    - 2 (6.3%)
Pokemons 513, 397, 456...    - 0 (0%)
Do you REALLY know all that?    - 0 (0%)
Please. I live with Marigold.    - 1 (3.1%)

Total Voters: 32
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 10 Sep 2011, 03:08
But bike riding through traffic? Even relatively sedate US/Australian traffic?

We (as in Finland) have a reasonable network of bicycle lanes, but nowhere near as comprehensive one as, say Denmark or the Netherlands. I try to commute twice a week by bike (not possible when there is snow in the ground), so I use them regularly. Cannot boast with feats like Paul's as my parents' summer cottage is only 60k away (and I was over 15 the first time I rode my bike out there). In rural areas the curbs are often wide enough to ride a bike on. Children under the age of 12 are allowed to ride their bikes on sidewalks among pedestrians. IOW: safety is a concern, but solutions exist.

How do you get millions of kids to/from school, if they never go out by themselves? Is *everybody* using a school bus in the U.S? I would have thought that school buses are used only in areas where no other method of transportation is available?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Sep 2011, 03:37
...It's a long story.

See, there was this thing that happened in the late 1950's - Brown v. Board of Education. It basically struck down the concept of "separate but equal" in terms of schooling, which led to school districts across the nation suddenly being required to have an equal number of minority youth at every school in their districts.

Many school districts realized they could do this by providing bus service to suburban youth to inner-city schools. That was about two generations ago. Now, because of things like school choice, busing is essentially the only way for some kids to get to their school.

Of course, one thing that most Europeans don't realize is how spread out most American cities are. I live in a relatively small city of about 10,000; it's located in an area roughly 6 miles by 3 miles, or about 18 square miles (46.62 square km). While that may not sound like much, you need to realize we have two rivers that divide the city into three sections, and that we are also in a rather hilly part of the state. Add to that the little thing we call "Winter" here (very bitter cold temperatures, occasional snowstorms and the like) and busing doesn't seem like a luxury as much as a necessity.

There's also the cultural thing about Americans and the open road and such, but that's for those of driving age. The situation within the comic here (bringing the topic back to QC) is rather unusual compared to most parts of the US. The fact that only Dora, Steve and Raven own cars (and Dora doesn't use hers much) isn't normal, unless you live in either the northeastern US, or in a large city where transit is an option.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Border Reiver on 10 Sep 2011, 04:12
I'm noticing recently that Jeph has started showing eyebrows through light hair - he didn't in the past, e.g. 1588 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1588).
That's just Momo. She is still culturally Japanese and that's in keeping with the manga style she's drawn after.
Not just Momo, and not just light hair. See Marigold in the first panel of 2003 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2003). Unless anime conventions apply to her too?



If they did her outfit and body would be slightly different...  More of one, less of the other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: YourMaster on 10 Sep 2011, 04:42
I lived in a rural Canadian town, population 7000 -- and the largest community for some distance in any direction.  I could and did walk or bike to school, but I was the exception, not the rule, since I lived right nearby.  Sometimes kids had to sit in the bus more than an hour in winter each way to and from the high school, and the bus wasn't going slowly.  Elementary schools are smaller are more distributed, but biking would still be impractical for a large portion of students.  In fact, my elementary school was closer to home than the high school, but I did take the bus there in winter -- at first because I was too young to trek that far in the dead of winter, and later because I was leading my cousins to and from school and they were too young.

That said, I see nothing weird at all about a 13 year old being alone in a bakery, especially since the outside doesn't seem like a winter wonderland.  I'm sure I did that at 13.  In more densely populated areas I'd expect it to happen much, much more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: rje on 10 Sep 2011, 05:21
oh man the school bus...I grew up in a rural town of about 3000-4000 people give or take, but the actual city part of it (where the businesses/schools/shops etc were located was only about 3 square miles or so. The majority of students actually lived waaaay out of town, spread out in all four directions - we had a hell of a lot of buses and most bused students rode them all the way from K-12, unless they were lucky enough to have a car when they hit 16 and got permits/licenses. I was lucky enough, and let me tell you I was so happy xD
Especially since the area were the buses started out from was a ten minute walk from my house so I was literally the second person on my bus in the morning and the last person off my bus after school. Getting up at 5:00am, waiting out in the freezing dark at 6:00 and riding a cold (or sometimes overheated in the winter hurr) bus for an hour and a half was not enjoyable.
Got me used to commuting though I guess.

Closely clustered cities with public transport are actually pretty rare in the US I think, with some things even rarer. I've still never been on a subway or above-ground train, for instance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Sep 2011, 06:09
How do you get millions of kids to/from school, if they never go out by themselves? Is *everybody* using a school bus in the U.S? I would have thought that school buses are used only in areas where no other method of transportation is available?

In the recent past, yes, but nowadays, quite a few parents drive their kids to school, because they don't trust the school bus. :psyduck:

(Then again, based on my experience being in school buses (and I've had 2 hour bus rides, for a school ~30 minutes by car or so away), that's not necessarily unfair.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 10 Sep 2011, 06:32
The area I grew up in had no bike lanes, no sidewalks. I lived close to my high school compared to most people and I was still 5 miles away. I walked it a few times when in high school, but it was all down a large highway. I wouldn't want people under 12 walking down the side of a highway with steep shoulders with cars flying by at 60mph right next to them.

The thing isn't about being paranoid its about the layout of where we grow up being much different. I let my kids play outside all the time now without my supervision (though my 5 year old son needs to have my 10 year old sister with him if he goes out, she can go out by herself), but they don't leave the small subdivision I live in. Outside of that is highway. No sidewalks, no bike lanes, just cars flying by at high speed.

We walk out each morning to put the kids on the bus, and go to the bus stop to pick them up every afternoon (though, this one is because the school won't let a kindergartener off the bus without a parent present, personally they could walk home by themselves, and my daughter does if my son is home sick).

Things are just spread out. Not only spread out but they are connected by large highways, and bike lanes only exist inside cities. there are sidewalks inside the main roads of small towns and larger.

And yes, for the most part kids in the US ride school buses. In large cities there might be more people who walk or ride a bike, but I grew up in a rural area, and now live right outside a small city, and VERY few people walk or ride a bike, its just not feasible.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: stoutfiles on 10 Sep 2011, 07:04

Marten's just a good grounding force. Got his feet deeply rooted in reality, he's mellow and helpful, he generally sounds like he knows what he's talking about, never makes a big deal out of the shortcomings, failings, or screwups of those around him. Always listens and knows just how to diffuse an emotionally turbulent situation.


http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818
That's an isolated incident. He was severely depressed and very, very drunk. I'm not saying that excuses it, but that's one specific time.

It's just as easy to post a link to this comic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1262) (He does a ton of nice things for Dora and tries to cheer her up when he realizes she's not having a good day) or even this one (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1245), where he's making sure Tai is careful with Hanners. Even when his closest friends aren't around, he's not judging Hannelore for who she is and tries to take care of her. Even when things are awful, he still tries to do the right thing and can even appropriately bring in just the right amount of humor, like in this strip (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1106).

I've known plenty of people who were severly drunk and depressed, but they didn't say dickish things.  Alcohol brings out repressed thoughts, it doesn't make up new ones.  It takes away inhibitions.  Faye let it go because she had to, she's done so many dickish things it's a wonder she has friends sometimes.

I would say that the nice guy role has been taken away by Hanners, or Marigold, or Momo, or Winslow.  While none of them are typically guys, even Angus has a better track record so far.  Marten is generally a nice guy but, I'm sorry, after that incident I'd go to Hannelore for help with something.  Marten seems quite bitter about people going to him for help, because he doesn't get anything out of it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Spectreofwar on 10 Sep 2011, 07:14

I've known plenty of people who were severly drunk and depressed, but they didn't say dickish things.  Alcohol brings out repressed thoughts, it doesn't make up new ones.  It takes away inhibitions.  Faye let it go because she had to, she's done so many dickish things it's a wonder she has friends sometimes.

I would say that the nice guy role has been taken away by Hanners, or Marigold, or Momo, or Winslow.  While none of them are typically guys, even Angus has a better track record so far.  Marten is generally a nice guy but, I'm sorry, after that incident I'd go to Hannelore for help with something.  Marten seems quite bitter about people going to him for help, because he doesn't get anything out of it.


How we treat our friends on a daily basis is how we really act, and hopefully how our friends see what they mean to us. The fact that Marten had one incident where he was indeed bitter about the outcome of a certain event was enough to condemn him entirely for you, is it? Do your friends never make mistakes? :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 10 Sep 2011, 07:24
I've never done a school bus before, but I certainly was never allowed to wander too far from the adult supervision as a child. When I was a kid I was able to play outside in our housing complex, and not if there weren't already some of the trusted neighborhood parents watching the kids at play from their front step.

I could also be trusted to walk to the variety store which was outside of the housing complex, but in retrospect that was really contingent on my ability to walk straight there and back without wandering off.

In highschool I was granted a little more freedom. My parents wouldn't question if I came home late from school. From there the boundaries extended pretty organically as I kept having cause to go new places farther away and they kept not having reason to object to it. By the time I was sixteen I could pretty much go wherever I wanted so long as I brought payphone money to tell them where I was and they felt pretty comfortable just leaving me to my own devices.

It just makes sense to me. Wouldn't have occurred to me that there would be urban circles where it wasn't considered usual to keep an eye on the kids. Kids are stupid. I was no exception. The city is not a friendly place for unsupervised children. Children go missing they often don't come back in one piece. We all know how kids get with wandering off the moment you take your eyes off them.

I mean heck, it's hard to even move about the city without someone taller to get the cars to notice you. If you get lost then that's just complete hell after it gets dark.




This being said I didn't find it odd that someone so young would be unsupervised in a bakery. Even in a city there are a lot of reasons that could be. She could live right down the street from the bakery and her parents know she knows the way. The bakery could be on her way to school. Thirteen is ninth grade so this could be where she comes for her lunch break. She could just be an unsupervised child in general. There are always some of those hanging around. Either got some oddball parents with unorthodox parenting philosophies or just regular run of the mill negligence. Latch key kids can be found from time to time just doing their thing. The degree of supervision still doesn't mean it's an alien concept to see a kid walking around without an adult clearly attached to them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Sep 2011, 07:58
I hereby accept that it's not as unusual-sounding as I originally thought to think of a 13yo in a bakery unsupervised.

What about CoD? Faye would probably want to behead first and ask questions later, no?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 10 Sep 2011, 08:02
Not if Marten's there. He never lets her murder ANYBODY.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Sep 2011, 08:24
Although I was under the impression that whoever it was that found it odd forgot that tSB was a bakery, and was a coffee shop.

And, a 13 year old in a coffee shop is a bit odd, at least IME - then again, when I was 13, I went to school with a bunch of kids that would uncontrollably bounce off the walls if you gave them even a little caffeine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 10 Sep 2011, 08:57
Probably depends on the coffee shop. Tim Hortons you'd assume they're there for donuts or cookies or perhaps even their spectacular fruitsplosion muffins. Starbucks has some nice brownies, a hot chocolate that my sister freaking loved when she was around ten. Little bit older than that now. About Sam's age. Now she likes their Chai latte which I guess must not be a coffee variant since our parents buy them for her and the church doesn't condone coffee. I also hear there's remarkably little coffee in their coffee, so maybe it would be a bit easier on the children?

I don't know about other coffee places. Don't drink a lot of the stuff. It doesn't sound outlandish to me though that there would be small time coffee establishments with a more non-child-friendly atmosphere which doesn't pad the wares with delicious baked goods.

But yeah, I get that. Coffee isn't something you associate with children. Some kids do better with the caffeine than others, but you don't wanna give them large doses of the stuff to guzzle down as a general rule of thumb. Plus it's not a flavor you'd think children would want to begin with. Then there's the fact that it's a hot drink. Often served more than hot enough for a child to severely burn themselves.

Reasoning or not though when I think Coffee I don't think children.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 10 Sep 2011, 09:03
Although I was under the impression that whoever it was that found it odd forgot that tSB was a bakery, and was a coffee shop.

And, a 13 year old in a coffee shop is a bit odd, at least IME - then again, when I was 13, I went to school with a bunch of kids that would uncontrollably bounce off the walls if you gave them even a little caffeine.

But a 13 year old hanging around the business her father owns ISN'T that weird. I'm starting to think that people are forgetting the connection there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: vettechinohio on 10 Sep 2011, 09:29
Now she likes their Chai latte which I guess must not be a coffee variant since our parents buy them for her and the church doesn't condone coffee.

Chai is a type of tea, mixed with milk and spices. One of my favorite drinks (:

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: wrwight on 10 Sep 2011, 10:15
Stoutflies, you enjoy ruffling feathers, don't you? Nothing wrong with that necessarily, and you do it the right way, but I don't think I've ever seen you agree with the popular notions about the comic, generally taking a more negative or pessimistic view of what's going on.

Anyway, that said, I know lots of people who have gotten drunk and not said something stupid or hurtful as well. I also know that most of those same people have indeed on rare occasion done or said something stupid or hurtful, regardless of their level of sobriety. I think the evidence already presented starts to show a picture of a very "real" person who has a genuinely kind heart (would you invite some person you just met to live with you after that person burned down his/her old apartment, regardless of whether or not you had a crush?), but like everyone, sometimes reaches a tipping point and says something stupid.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Arancaytar on 10 Sep 2011, 11:55
Huh. On an archive trawl, I just realized that human-form AnthroPCs have been around far longer (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=855) than I remembered, if we're counting one-off jokes.

Edit: Also, spoiler tags are sometimes used to hide blocks of texts that may be long or not of interest to everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Sep 2011, 13:36
Wow. Great catch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Sep 2011, 14:00
The other thing about busing is, when there was the population explosion in the 1960's and 1970's, a lot of school districts bought land on the (then) outskirts of town to build new schools. The economy in the aftermath of the OPEC oil crisis meant that those schools stayed on the outskirts of town, which meant that the only way kids could get there was by bus.

I've been on an Amtrak train, but never on one of the "Els" or subways. It's not all that.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Sep 2011, 14:12
Huh. On an archive trawl, I just realized that human-form AnthroPCs have been around far longer (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=855) than I remembered, if we're counting one-off jokes.

Eve's existence has been pointed out before. She's actually a prototype (as was Hanner's robo-boyfriend), and it's also debatable as to whether or not she's a true APC.

If Apple actually made AI chassis, she'd probably be... oh, you know the joke, fill it in your iSelf.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Sep 2011, 15:12
This is probably a stupid question, but... why did you spoilerify a poem by your mother? What could it possibly be spoiling?

A whim...  Oh, to avoid distracting from the main point of the post.  Or something.   Don't make me think so late at night!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Wagimawr on 10 Sep 2011, 15:44
oh, you know the joke, fill it in your iSelf.

iDon't think iDo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 10 Sep 2011, 21:38
The stories of 1hr+ school bus rides to and fro made me realize that we simply adopted a different solution to the problem of educating kids in sparsely populated areas. Build a lot of tiny schools (20 students or less not unheard of). An expensive solution in some ways, and the stories of these old schools being abandoned have been common now that politicians and administrators are sold on the idea of "bigger is better". Surely this has been tried in the U.S. as well (thinking "Little House on the Prairie"), so nothing new there. May be I have just been lucky to live most of my years around a town of roughly 200000. The longest trip to school I've ever had was 13 k : 10-15 minute walk at both ends and a 15minute bus trip in between. By local standards that was an exceptionally long trip (my younger sister only had a 2½ k walk, but I had started at another school, and chose not to transfer when we moved). Proximity of a school was given a lot of weight, when missus and I were shopping for a home.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2011, 02:49
What Skewbrow describes was exactly the case in the  part of Ohio i. Wich I grew up, and in most other areas of the Midwestern US as well. I've seen maps of my township showing a (usually one-room) school building every couple of miles around the middle of the 19th century. Not even the foundation stones remain of most of those buildings. As population grew and more and more became expected of schools ( either from societal want or governmental fiat) the one- room schoolhouse was less able to cut it. I has a bus ride of either five minutes or 45 minutes, depending on which direction Bus 19 ran its route. Sometimes when I knew i wa getting the short (long?) end of the stick and it was a nice day, I walked, and didn't always tell Mom. In the early 80s, it was still a nice walk in the country. With the traffic on that road nowadays, it would be insane.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2011, 06:40
Then there's the fact that it's a hot drink. Often served more than hot enough for a child to severely burn themselves.
Really? Seriously? A 13-year-old can't manage a hot drink without burning themselves? I didn't drink coffee at 13, but certainly made and drank tea (OMG she's boiling a kettle! Call Social Services!).

As for the supposed evils of caffeine, parents seem quite happy to let children way younger than 13 guzzle caffeinated, sugar-loaded soft drinks. Chai (simply another word for tea) certainly contains caffeine unless it is some special decaffeinated brew. In places where generally tea is just called "tea", chai normally means spiced tea, and the tea in that is normally quite strong so that its flavour is not covered by the spices. Incidentally, hot chocolate and cocoa also contain caffeine, as does most bar chocolate (http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/drugAndAlcohol/caffeine.html).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Sep 2011, 06:51
She could just be hanging out there because her dad owns the place.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Random Al Yousir on 11 Sep 2011, 07:47
Naw, that's too easy an explanation.  She was in a daring mood and went out to find some Pokemon aficionados in a coffee shop.  Just for the heck of it.  :mrgreen:

Okay, coincidentally her father does own the store.  Maybe she felt lazy, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 11 Sep 2011, 08:02
AAAnd we've come full circle (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27272.msg1055325.html#msg1055325)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 11 Sep 2011, 09:15
Then there's the fact that it's a hot drink. Often served more than hot enough for a child to severely burn themselves.
Really? Seriously? A 13-year-old can't manage a hot drink without burning themselves? I didn't drink coffee at 13, but certainly made and drank tea (OMG she's boiling a kettle! Call Social Services!).

As for the supposed evils of caffeine, parents seem quite happy to let children way younger than 13 guzzle caffeinated, sugar-loaded soft drinks. Chai (simply another word for tea) certainly contains caffeine unless it is some special decaffeinated brew. In places where generally tea is just called "tea", chai normally means spiced tea, and the tea in that is normally quite strong so that its flavour is not covered by the spices. Incidentally, hot chocolate and cocoa also contain caffeine, as does most bar chocolate (http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/drugAndAlcohol/caffeine.html).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants

Look, I'm sure children as a whole can manage to not spill the stuff on themselves. I'm sure they exercise all due caution. When some of these places are serving their drinks hot enough for third degree burns in under twenty seconds though it's a cause for parental concern.

I mean hell, I still spill a drink occasionally. I'll be getting careless as I read and then there it is all over me. Cold drink it's a simple change of clothes. 160 degree drink I may or may not require medical attention because of this. Nothing lethal, but parents worry about this kind of shit.

Couple this with the fact that children are freaking notorious for not exercising proper caution due to a lack of understanding of the inherent consequences of their actions and yeah, I do think some parents don't trust their children with these kinds of drinks. Some parents don't have children they can trust to cook at age thirteen.

There are a lot of different parenting philosophies and degrees of protectiveness. Some parents look at young Sam burning down the kitchen and take efforts not to have their child dealing with that in the future. 

And yes. I am aware that plenty of parents allow their children to drink lots of caffeine. That's how generalities work. There are a sufficiently large number of children who don't drink coffee that it is the children who do who are in the minority.

Maybe your experiences have been different. Maybe the attitudes where you live are different. I just don't see that many children drinking coffee. I know one dude who was allowed to drink coffee as a child, but he wasn't overly fond of it.

Finally, you're addressing the issue as if these are my personal attitudes, which is faulty. Simply because an attitude is prevalent enough to be considered the norm does not mean it is something I necessarily share. By and large I have very few terribly strong opinions on how one should raise a child. I'm a 25 year old bachelor with no plans of changing this in the foreseeable future. Not huge on my list of things I think about with great frequency. I can say that were I to have such attitudes, I do not feel I would be the type to get up in arms about parents who don't follow my own methods. Though I'm no parent, I've had enough experience with children to know that they come in a lot of different shapes and sizes with a lot of different needs. While some kids may be fine with coffee, some kids aren't. It's up to the individual parents to discern this.

So no, I'm not vilifying caffeine. I would think that in general a child's reduced size means they can't handle as much of it as a fully grown person, but all in all I don't see any harm in any of it. It's a pretty harmless substance. The kid's not gonna die from it or anything.

I will also clarify that I specifically stated that it was not a problem of caffeine in general but rather the amount of caffeine the child is consuming. My parents were fine with me having sweets, but by and large they didn't let me eat enough to make myself sick. The fact that chocolate has caffeine is irrelevant.

For that matter, you're taking apart a belief that was never rational to begin with. Parents are hardly known for being the most levelheaded demographic. They worry about stupid shit and show ridiculous inconsistencies. It's almost as if they're in a constant state of mild panic and excessive stress while dealing with the most unreasonable judgements you can find coming from all directions as well as a near constant stream of unreasonable demands and ingratitude from the source of all this. Oh wait, they are.

Parenting's a shit deal, and from what I've heard you don't always know what you're doing. If occasionally they end up taking up policies that don't make a lot of sense that's about par for the course.


So, to reiterate, coffee is not something I generally associate with children. I just don't see children drinking the stuff with any particular degree of frequency.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2011, 11:20
IT'S A FREAKIN' BAKERY, NOT A COFFEE SHOP!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2011, 13:07
Hell, until recently, coffee was pretty much an afterthought.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2011, 13:20
Do freakin' bakeries serve friggin' lattes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1548)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2011, 13:23
That's Coffee of Doom, J-dub was referring to tSB.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2011, 13:30
The question was whether other places could serve friggin' lattes. They're using CoD beans now, after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2011, 13:37
In that case, do to a non-compete clause, they can serve them any day but Wednesday.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 11 Sep 2011, 13:44
Which brings to light a larger point of interest. Dora's selling TSB her secret blends, but is she sharing all of them? Do both locations have identical menus now, or is the trade less all encompassing than that?

COD is known for their outlandish specials. Is The Secret Bakery now in a position of having to figure out what you do with a murlock mocha or a cup o' bees (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1121)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Sep 2011, 14:08
Probably not.  They're just selling them the beans so that tSB coffee isn't as crappy as it used to be.  And tSB must have barista's (or there's be no triple-shot lattes for Marten), but I think the specials board, and the specials themselves, belong to CoD! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2011, 14:15
She's providing the beans, but they don't know how she roasts them.  I'm assuming what tSB does with the beans is up to them to figure out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Sep 2011, 14:16
The secret menu has remained a secret, surely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2011, 14:37
They've kept it secret, they've kept it safe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Border Reiver on 11 Sep 2011, 15:49
I just don't want to see it turned in something...unnatural.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2011, 15:52
Finally, you're addressing the issue as if these are my personal attitudes, which is faulty.
I responded to what you posted. I made no reference to you personally or your personal attitudes at all. I certainly, for example, never once described you or your attitudes as "faulty".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 11 Sep 2011, 16:13
My apologies. It seems I overreacted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Sep 2011, 17:54
...a cup o' bees (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1121)

Well that one seems self-explanatory.

You have to sign a release and have an epinephrin injection ready or they won't serve it to you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Sep 2011, 18:48
I'm more concerned with the cup o' pee.  The health department would be all over that. 



Unless it's just a nickname for some really weak chamomile tea...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2011, 18:51
What was the MOMENT OF THE WEEK?

Good morning Faye! I made some coffee...    - 0 (0%)
SLUUUURRP (right from the pot)    - 2 (4.3%)
Is CoD hiring?    - 0 (0%)
"Tragic accident" (This stuff BETTER not be poisoned)    - 2 (4.3%)
Momo at the library! Are you hiring?    - 1 (2.1%)
"I've got free reign."    - 1 (2.1%)
"Is that something you are supposed to put on your resume?"    - 5 (10.6%)
Winslow brought Momo those samples...    - 1 (2.1%)
There's... there's nothing! Her entire system is blank!    - 1 (2.1%)
Big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO    - 4 (8.5%)
She got a new chassis. (We must burn it. To keep it out of Pintsize's hands.)    - 5 (10.6%)
Hey, mister triple-shot latte.    - 1 (2.1%)
Technically, I'm only 2.7 years old.    - 0 (0%)
You got a robot PREGNANT?    - 17 (36.2%)
Samantha meets Momo!    - 3 (6.4%)
Pokemons 513, 397, 456...    - 0 (0%)
Do you REALLY know all that?    - 0 (0%)
Please. I live with Marigold.    - 4 (8.5%)

Total Voters: 47
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2011, 19:06
Unless it's just a nickname for some really weak chamomile tea...
Green tea seems more likely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2011, 19:37
I thought it was apple cider.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: gangler on 11 Sep 2011, 19:43
It's a slippery slope once we start deciding that the names of daily specials aren't meant literally.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Sep 2011, 20:33
I thought it was apple cider.

Either that or Bud Light.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2011, 20:59
So you've heard the story of the guy who sent some American beer to a lab for analysis and got back a report saying "Your horse is pregnant"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Sep 2011, 21:32
In an old (prohibition era) local variant it was moonshine from a black market dealer, and the horse had diabetes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Sep 2011, 21:36
Q: How is Bud Light like having sex in a canoe?





A: It's fucking close to water.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Sep 2011, 09:17
It took me until now to come up with a logical question about AnthroPCs based on strip 2007.

What does it mean for an AnthroPC to be a "rookie" at a job?

Do they have to acquire motor skills the hard way, like we do? They can't just download parameters and become equivalent to a Clover machine (http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1855948_1864255_1864273,00.html)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: John_Knee on 16 Sep 2011, 10:05
It took me until now to come up with a logical question about AnthroPCs based on strip 2007.

What does it mean for an AnthroPC to be a "rookie" at a job?

Do they have to acquire motor skills the hard way, like we do? They can't just download parameters and become equivalent to a Clover machine (http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1855948_1864255_1864273,00.html)?

Even though they might have superior calculation skills etc, Momo would still need to learn additional protocols of how business works from a non-mathematical side of things. Hence, a lower rank job where she can learn company culture etc from scratch might be necessary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Sep 2011, 11:03
Momo trying to adapt to CoD culture is something to imagine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Post by: Carl-E on 16 Sep 2011, 11:42
With the electro-shock, she'd be quite good at extinguishing propositions.  That seems to be a skill of some concern at CoD. 


And I assume she'd recognize one when it came across the counter...