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Title: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Mar 2012, 22:10
And here we go - nine weeks of QC in SPACE!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Mar 2012, 22:44
It doesn't seem like they've been in space for nine weeks.  I guess that's a good thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 17 Mar 2012, 23:40
Hey Method, when did you become a Global Moderator Bling blang blong blung?

I get the impression that Global Moderator Bling blang blong blung is a very respectable title indeed, so congratulations! :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2012, 06:46
I became a Global Moderator about two months ago.  The Bling blang blong blung though is just one of those titles based on how many posts I have, so I'll have a new one in a few posts, like usual, I guess.  Either way, thanks!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 18 Mar 2012, 14:04
Vulcan Three Dimensional Chess Master?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 18 Mar 2012, 16:54
That really should  be a level label. 


All in favor? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 18 Mar 2012, 16:58
Aye!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2012, 18:04
I wonder how many labels there are.  Or rather, how many posts before it stops changing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Mar 2012, 18:57
I wonder how many labels there are.  Or rather, how many posts before it stops changing.

KharBevNor is up to DICKFISH at 11k...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2012, 19:10
I wonder if there's a lower DICKFISH so we can see how long it's been without a change.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Akima on 18 Mar 2012, 19:12
Vulcan Three Dimensional Chess Master?
Since the Vulcans/Romulans are the good guy/yellow peril fantasy Asian counterpart culture (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasyCounterpartCulture) of the Star Drek universe, I've always thought they should play weiqi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weiqi). Three-dimensional Go would be a real test even of the Vulcan intellect...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: kajiura fan on 18 Mar 2012, 19:16
Hey Method, when did you become a Global Moderator Bling blang blong blung?

I get the impression that Global Moderator Bling blang blong blung is a very respectable title indeed, so congratulations! :P
This made me laugh more than it should have.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheEvilDog on 18 Mar 2012, 20:31
My prediction for this week? The party is winding down, people are relaxed, one of the soldiers hears something in the corridor and disappears. Thats when the Necromorphs* attack! Marten has to break out the plasma cutters, don a jury-rigged engineers suit and save the day!

That or Marten and Hanners' dad chat.






* (Dead Space, its a game for those who don't know)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 18 Mar 2012, 20:35
I thought you said Necromongers there for a moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheEvilDog on 18 Mar 2012, 20:44
I thought you said Necromongers there for a moment.

Ewwwwwwwww, Pitch Black was bearable but Chronicles of Riddick?! I need to throw up!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2012, 21:17
I haven't seen PB or Chronicles, but Escape from Butcher Bay (the video game) was really good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mad Cat on 18 Mar 2012, 21:23
Before the new strip goes up and distracts everyone, I have an observation. Since Ghostbusters was released IN 1984, it could not have been a story based on Doc E-C's QC-verse invention which he had merely DESIGNED in 1984. Therefore, Doc E-C did not inspire Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters inspired Doc E-C. Doc E-C is a sci-fi geek. Q.E.D.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 18 Mar 2012, 21:54
I wonder if there's a lower DICKFISH so we can see how long it's been without a change.

I wondered what an Notorious N.U.R.R. was, but then I made a few more posts, found this link and stopped wondering: http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Questionable_Content_forum
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 18 Mar 2012, 23:25
If I could pick one and stick with it, I'd probably choose FIGHT YOU. Wonder what that says about me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 18 Mar 2012, 23:42
Comic's up.

And suddenly I find myself reaching for the tissues.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 18 Mar 2012, 23:43
Waaah, I thought I was gonna get the first comment!

I didn't tear up, isnce that's not my kind of thing.  But this is definitely a good example of how much Hannelore has progressed.  It's possible this is the first time she's ever hugged her dad.

Too bad whoever that is in the back(the LT?) had to go and disrupt the moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: CompSarge on 18 Mar 2012, 23:47
Everyone together now: D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWW!  :-D

Joking aside, this really speaks volumes for how Hannelore has progressed emotionally while on Earth. Maybe this strip is why she was pushing herself (hugging Marten, the date with Sven, etc)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Toe on 18 Mar 2012, 23:49
Well, so much for that bottle of uber-rare whiskey, Hanners had to go and surprise her dad and make him drop the bottle & smash it into a million pieces! :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 18 Mar 2012, 23:50
*Looks at poll, reads last option* :-o I am gratified, sir.

If the lieutenant keeps this up, her worries about public humiliation among her station mates will come to fruition. Plus, she's totally ruining the d'awww.

I wondered what an Notorious N.U.R.R. was, but then I made a few more posts, found this link and stopped wondering: http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Questionable_Content_forum
That chart is out of date, though. I don't have the title it says I should have, at least.

Well, so much for that bottle of uber-rare whiskey, Hanners had to go and surprise her dad and make him drop the bottle & smash it into a million pieces! :(
Judging by the reaction of half of the wakeup song duo in the first panel, that may not be a bad thing (though she recovered quickly), but he probably passed it off to someone else.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Mar 2012, 00:16
I wonder if some of it's in Marten's glass, or if that's still Grandma's-a-racist on the rocks...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: cesariojpn on 19 Mar 2012, 00:17
I noticed two errors in between the last two panels. Just a casual observation, no malicious intent implied.

(http://i.imgur.com/53Qr2.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Tellusora on 19 Mar 2012, 00:22
This is simply an adorable moment, made even more poignant if, as the above poster says, that all of Hannelore's effort was dedicated towards this single moment. Truly a triumph of the human spirit.
Now, Marigold...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Mar 2012, 00:24
Maybe this strip is why she was pushing herself (hugging Marten, the date with Sven, etc)?

I hadn't even thought of that. Good insight! It makes perfect sense, and Hannelore is just the type who would do a carefully planned long term project.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: HiFranc on 19 Mar 2012, 00:25
My thoughts:

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Mar 2012, 00:27
I wonder how old she was the last time she was able to give him a hug.  Four?  Five?  Maybe eight?  When did the OCD set in?  Clearly before the teen years Dr. Case described...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 19 Mar 2012, 00:42
Hey, thanks for drawing my attention to the Poster Titles, Method! Since when was I afraid of cantaloupes?! :P

It only just hit me how much of a present both Hannelore and Hannerdad would consider a hug to be... awww. ;D
Wooow, Lt. Potter must have celebrated her principles REALLY hard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 19 Mar 2012, 00:52
Vulcan Three Dimensional Chess Master?
Since the Vulcans/Romulans are the good guy/yellow peril fantasy Asian counterpart culture (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasyCounterpartCulture) of the Star Drek universe, I've always thought they should play weiqi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weiqi). Three-dimensional Go would be a real test even of the Vulcan intellect...
i always thought the romulans were supposed to be modeled after the roman empire
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Mar 2012, 01:06
If the name wasn't enough evidence, their military titles are conclusive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Toe on 19 Mar 2012, 01:09
Wooow, Lt. Potter must have celebrated her principles REALLY hard.

She's basically right back to the behavior got her in that situation in the first place...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 19 Mar 2012, 01:16
I wondered what an Notorious N.U.R.R. was, but then I made a few more posts, found this link and stopped wondering: http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Questionable_Content_forum
That chart is out of date, though. I don't have the title it says I should have, at least.

I've made a couple of changes in the 600s, and replaced one later title, but generally they go back to the early days of the forum.  There is one user (the oldest other than Jeph, but no longer active) who has a personal title instead of a count title.

[EDIT] I've updated the forum section of the wiki (and made another title change).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mustakyy on 19 Mar 2012, 01:22
Everyone together now: D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWW!  :-D

D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWW!   Sooooo adorable.  :angel:   :-D


Daang, even though Lt. Potter is kinda ruining the d'awwwww, her lil' interruption was damn funny. She totally seems to have celebrated quite hard.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: idontunderstand on 19 Mar 2012, 01:47
I wonder how old she was the last time she was able to give him a hug.  Four?  Five?  Maybe eight?  When did the OCD set in?  Clearly before the teen years Dr. Case described...

While I have no proof, I think this might be their first (voluntary) hug. Dammit Jeph, breaking my heart on monday morning like this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 19 Mar 2012, 01:59
Wooow, Lt. Potter must have celebrated her principles REALLY hard.

She's basically right back to the behavior got her in that situation in the first place...

My god, it's ingenious. She has license to party endlessly from a never ending loop of:
celebrating --> compromising photos --> someone showing those photos in public --> receiving compensation --> throwing the compensation away on principle --> back to celebrating!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Sidhekin on 19 Mar 2012, 03:02
Hey, thanks for drawing my attention to the Poster Titles, Method! Since when was I afraid of cantaloupes?! :P
Actually, it seems you're fear of cantaloupes, not afraid of them.

(Now, to see what mine is ...)

On-topic: ... awww.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Sorflakne on 19 Mar 2012, 03:34
Lt Potter!  Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: dreed on 19 Mar 2012, 03:56
Awwww and...

someone is going to be stationed in Polar region soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 19 Mar 2012, 04:07
I was going to comment about how cute and how wonderful it's to see Hanners hugging her dad for the first time in what could be many many years..... But no, I just want to say that Lt. Potter is fucking awesome.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 19 Mar 2012, 04:44
Lt. Potter is about to become Ms. Potter after the Major gets done with this charge report:

Lt. Potter

Charge 1:  s.92 Scandalous Conduct by Officer

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, at the birthday party of Dr. Chatham, when not in uniform, used offensive language and behaved in a drunken and riotous manner by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!"

Charge 2:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 1

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham , at the birthday part of Dr. Chatham, while not in uniform, did completely ruin the moment by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!" at a moment of extreme "D' awwness".

Charge 3:  s.97 Drunkeness

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was drunk and behaving in a disorderly manner likely to bring discredit to Her Majesty's service.

Charge 4:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 3

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was severely intoxicated and behaving in a disorderly manner, and was rendered unfit for duty

Why yes, I have had to write a few of these up over the years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: lightsabermario on 19 Mar 2012, 04:46
But why is the rum... er, whiskey gone?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 19 Mar 2012, 04:56
Lt. Potter is about to become Ms. Potter after the Major gets done with this charge report:

Lt. Potter

Charge 1:  s.92 Scandalous Conduct by Officer

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, at the birthday party of Dr. Chatham, when not in uniform, used offensive language and behaved in a drunken and riotous manner by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!"

Charge 2:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 1

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham , at the birthday part of Dr. Chatham, while not in uniform, did completely ruin the moment by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!" at a moment of extreme "D' awwness".

Charge 3:  s.97 Drunkeness

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was drunk and behaving in a disorderly manner likely to bring discredit to Her Majesty's service.

Charge 4:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 3

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was severely intoxicated and behaving in a disorderly manner, and was rendered unfit for duty

Why yes, I have had to write a few of these up over the years.

Ruling: case dismissed.

In as much as Lt. Potter is an Officer in the United States Air Force, said Officer is not in Her Majesty's service, and this court therefore has no jurisdiction in this matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 19 Mar 2012, 05:33
Exactly... she wasn't on duty so she was just like any other civil with the right to get drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Akima on 19 Mar 2012, 05:54
i always thought the romulans were supposed to be modeled after the roman empire
Arguably in TOS, but in TNE and DS9 the characterisation and image changed. A lot.
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i446/ZAL77449/romulans.jpg)
But at the same time Klingons went from vaguely Asiatic looking (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lW_io0xd5jk/TqhcA6nZxNI/AAAAAAAAA68/KZPwep4nW7g/s1600/Kang.jpg) to space vikings, so I guess it all balances out.

Exactly... she wasn't on duty so she was just like any other civil with the right to get drunk.
I don't think military personel, especially on an active-duty station, and especially especially when commissioned, are ever entirely off-duty in the sense of being exempt from military discipline. But this is a comic, so yeah... "Hug the shit out of him" Hanners!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Technoir on 19 Mar 2012, 05:56
Comic's up.

And suddenly I find myself reaching for the tissues.  :psyduck:

Damn, it's so dusty in my office.....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Mar 2012, 05:58
I like the idea of this strip, and the last panel's punchline, but having most everyone staring ahead blankly like that (definitely "wide-eyed") in panel four is unnerving, and didn't provoke the intended ("Daww...") response from me.

It's a fine line.  This is, after all, the most public of PDA's for anyone! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Black Sword on 19 Mar 2012, 06:39
Thank you, Lieutenant Potter of the 181 Airborne Moment Killers!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Mar 2012, 07:01
I wonder how old she was the last time she was able to give him a hug.  Four?  Five?  Maybe eight?  When did the OCD set in?  Clearly before the teen years Dr. Case described...

...She may never have been able to hug her father before.

Now THAT would be a birthday present to remember!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Yarin on 19 Mar 2012, 07:55
aww so cute
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Soulsynger on 19 Mar 2012, 08:25
Hannerdad's left trouser pocket in panel 2 was forgotten and feels terrible because of it.

...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: vsonics on 19 Mar 2012, 08:45
I understand, Carl, but the replication of so many near-identical facial expressions in panel four just seemed "off" to me.

Yeah, something about the comic just didn't hit my adorable bone right, and I'm pretty sure that that's it. The beginning is really sweet, but then they're all just lookin' at them. Thank goodness Potter came in to save the day.

I couldn't help but wonder how many of them actually know Hanners either. Obviously she grew up on the station and we know that a lot of the older scientists and workers there do, but some of them look pretty young. Having them just staring at a girl they only know as "the boss's daughter" like that is even odder.

Also pointing out the differences between the panels made me notice the person on the left with their back to the scene. Also strange.

All in all, though...pretty cute. The HannerHug and having Marigold turned in towards the Science Man like that made up for some of the creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: CrowFairy on 19 Mar 2012, 08:59
I wonder how old she was the last time she was able to give him a hug.  Four?  Five?  Maybe eight?  When did the OCD set in?  Clearly before the teen years Dr. Case described...
I started showing OCD symptoms before I could even walk and talk (even though nobody realized that's what it was until I figured it out a few years ago). Because a person with OCD is born with it, I'd guess she probably started early on in her life, too. She'd be lucky if she made it to three without showing weird signs. It also depends on how her neuroses changed over the years. Most of mine have stayed pretty constant, but I had a few things that have dropped off or changed into something else. Therefore, it is possible she lasted a little longer, but I find it unlikely. If she was a strong germophobe like that as a teen, I'd guess you're probably pretty close with age four or five. I started having very minor germophobic tendencies around the same time (kindergarten, I'd say), and she probably became aware of germs before I did (because of her family) and was smart enough to understand what they were and what they could do early enough that it's possibly been a fear for her for longer than she can remember.

Of course, this is all purely conjecture, but I feel like it is an educated enough guess that it should help to some degree.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 19 Mar 2012, 09:16
Lt. Potter is about to become Ms. Potter after the Major gets done with this charge report:

Lt. Potter

Charge 1:  s.92 Scandalous Conduct by Officer

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, at the birthday party of Dr. Chatham, when not in uniform, used offensive language and behaved in a drunken and riotous manner by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!"

Charge 2:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 1

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham , at the birthday part of Dr. Chatham, while not in uniform, did completely ruin the moment by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!" at a moment of extreme "D' awwness".

Charge 3:  s.97 Drunkeness

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was drunk and behaving in a disorderly manner likely to bring discredit to Her Majesty's service.

Charge 4:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 3

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was severely intoxicated and behaving in a disorderly manner, and was rendered unfit for duty

Why yes, I have had to write a few of these up over the years.

Ruling: case dismissed.

In as much as Lt. Potter is an Officer in the United States Air Force, said Officer is not in Her Majesty's service, and this court therefore has no jurisdiction in this matter.

Not having the UCMJ handy I used the Cdn Equivalent.  I'm fairly certain my US brethern can find the equivalent sections.

It was funny though, and about the only way to avoid a large amount of us seeking compensation for the dental bills for the overly sweet comic. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 19 Mar 2012, 10:02
Lt. Potter is about to become Ms. Potter after the Major gets done with this charge report:

Lt. Potter

Charge 1:  s.92 Scandalous Conduct by Officer

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, at the birthday party of Dr. Chatham, when not in uniform, used offensive language and behaved in a drunken and riotous manner by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!"

Charge 2:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 1

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham , at the birthday part of Dr. Chatham, while not in uniform, did completely ruin the moment by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!" at a moment of extreme "D' awwness".

Charge 3:  s.97 Drunkeness

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was drunk and behaving in a disorderly manner likely to bring discredit to Her Majesty's service.

Charge 4:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 3

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was severely intoxicated and behaving in a disorderly manner, and was rendered unfit for duty

Why yes, I have had to write a few of these up over the years.

Ruling: case dismissed.

In as much as Lt. Potter is an Officer in the United States Air Force, said Officer is not in Her Majesty's service, and this court therefore has no jurisdiction in this matter.

Instead of s.129, she might be cited under Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 19 Mar 2012, 12:29
Exactly... she wasn't on duty so she was just like any other civil with the right to get drunk.
I don't think military personel, especially on an active-duty station, and especially especially when commissioned, are ever entirely off-duty in the sense of being exempt from military discipline. But this is a comic, so yeah... "Hug the shit out of him" Hanners!

It would be hard to believe for me that she could get fire for getting drunk at a party.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 19 Mar 2012, 12:32
*Force 10 Glare*

"You are confined to quarters during your off duty hours for the next five days Lieutenant.  While on duty, you will report to engineering. I'm sure Lieutenant Commander Torres can find ........  suitable duties for you to perform.  Dismissed Lieutenant!"


I hope she likes scrubbing out Plasma Conduits.     :-D




Oh, and

Dawwwwwwwwwwww
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 19 Mar 2012, 12:56
As much as I enjoyed the complete aw-ness of the moment, I find it hard to believe that EVERYBODY at the party understood the enormity of Hanners hugging her dad. There should have been a few people who went about their business as if nothing special were going on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: cesariojpn on 19 Mar 2012, 13:10
As much as I enjoyed the complete aw-ness of the moment, I find it hard to believe that EVERYBODY at the party understood the enormity of Hanners hugging her dad. There should have been a few people who went about their business as if nothing special were going on.

Or they think she had a cyborg implant. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2134)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Mar 2012, 13:50
I would suspect that, even among those who may not remember Hanners (and it seems that she hasn't been Earthside that long - it's probably only been about 9-10 years strip-time), they may know about her OCD from interactions with Dad and/or the others on the station.

Hanners leaves an impact on people whose lives intersect with hers. (I mean, look at all of us! ;) )
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pendrake on 19 Mar 2012, 14:12
For comic #2146...

1. I have had no problems (quite the opposite) at how long the space story-arc has been going on, since we all know that "eventually" we will return to Northampton.  Far better than Jeph splitting the story-arc between space and Earth, I think.  For example: I love Order of the Stick and Girl Genius, but gods the way the story jumps between characters/groups across months with minor to miniscule progress...  Or the Song of Fire & Ice series, forget exactly which book it was, but there was a a point of 400+ pages of text and the most exciting and active thing that happened was an army marched across a farmer's crop field into a village :psyduck: .

2. Seeing singing scientist-girl's face in panel #1 (which made me chuckle), I am guessing the pirate whiskey had not aged very well.

3. It was also nice to see more than just Dr. Case tearing up at this poignant moment.

4. Drunken Lt. Potter and her (somewhat) ruining the moment is a very good reminder of why I no longer drink.  Being way in the rear of the crowd and mostly blocked from view, hopefully she is not "cheering" this moment in only a bra and panties :evil: .

5. Lt. Potter may not be discharged, or necessarily even disciplined/punished for being drunk whilst off-duty, despite opinions and military experiences from our forum-cast.  However, public drunkeness has rarely (if ever) been beneficial to one's career or service, as well.  [It certainly never helped me any...  But hey, perhaps there is a Tony Stark &/or Carol Danvers out there among the forum-cast.]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: FunkyTuba on 19 Mar 2012, 14:38
I noticed when we first met hannerdad (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2118) that he didn't hug her.

Is this the big reveal? Or will there be something with more consequences that will come out of the trip to spaaaace!?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: cesariojpn on 19 Mar 2012, 14:58
I noticed when we first met hannerdad (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2118) that he didn't hug her.

Is this the big reveal? Or will there be something with more consequences that will come out of the trip to spaaaace!?

Hannerdad is not the biological father of Hanners.

What a twist!

edited to add: Hannerdad reveals that he is the father of Marten or Marigold.

What a twist!

redited to add: HannerDad had a tryst with Veronica Vance. (Veronica is abit vague for a few years.) (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=436) So technically, Hanners and Marten are related.

What a twist!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Somebody on 19 Mar 2012, 16:09
I noticed when we first met hannerdad (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2118) that he didn't hug her.

Is this the big reveal?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=907

PS: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=916
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: squab on 19 Mar 2012, 18:05
I understand, Carl, but the replication of so many near-identical facial expressions in panel four just seemed "off" to me.

Yeah, something about the comic just didn't hit my adorable bone right, and I'm pretty sure that that's it. The beginning is really sweet, but then they're all just lookin' at them. Thank goodness Potter came in to save the day.

I couldn't help but wonder how many of them actually know Hanners either. Obviously she grew up on the station and we know that a lot of the older scientists and workers there do, but some of them look pretty young. Having them just staring at a girl they only know as "the boss's daughter" like that is even odder.

Also pointing out the differences between the panels made me notice the person on the left with their back to the scene. Also strange.

All in all, though...pretty cute. The HannerHug and having Marigold turned in towards the Science Man like that made up for some of the creepy.

Well, how long ago did Hanners leave the station? She's 22 now and I'm pretty sure she was there during her teen years. As far as I know* she could have left between ages 15-17. Maybe even 18. That's only 4-7 years off station. Most of the people could have probably been there like 5 years. Yeah, most of them would at least have a 4 year degree of some sort, but everyone's a genius so some people probably got a degree and went up to the station at like 18 or something.

*sorry if it's known when she left and I'm way off
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: JRDelirio on 19 Mar 2012, 18:08
Digging the gagging scientist quite a bit.

5. Lt. Potter may not be discharged, or necessarily even disciplined/punished for being drunk whilst off-duty, despite opinions and military experiences from our forum-cast.  However, public drunkeness has rarely (if ever) been beneficial to one's career or service, as well.

Normally for drunk and embarassing off-duty, a "counseling" is likelier to happen than actual charges being tried, unless it becomes too frequent an event or interferes with duties.   Still the articles are there, including the one of general "disreputable conduct", to be used if the command finds something more severe needs to be done.  But yeah, as was commented after her first appearances, she seems destined to just complete her mandatory tour and then her  poor judgment in her personal life will stall her career progression.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DonInKansas on 19 Mar 2012, 18:20
Panel 4 is the most hilarious thing I've read in a while.  I will do this at some point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Sorflakne on 19 Mar 2012, 20:32
Lt. Potter is about to become Ms. Potter after the Major gets done with this charge report:

Lt. Potter

Charge 1:  s.92 Scandalous Conduct by Officer

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, at the birthday party of Dr. Chatham, when not in uniform, used offensive language and behaved in a drunken and riotous manner by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!"

Charge 2:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 1

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham , at the birthday part of Dr. Chatham, while not in uniform, did completely ruin the moment by yelling, "F*ck yeah!  Hug the sh*t out of him!" at a moment of extreme "D' awwness".

Charge 3:  s.97 Drunkeness

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was drunk and behaving in a disorderly manner likely to bring discredit to Her Majesty's service.

Charge 4:  s.129 Conduct to the Prejudice of Good Order and Discipline

Alternate to Charge 3

In that she, on or about March 19, 2012, at Space Station Chatham, was severely intoxicated and behaving in a disorderly manner, and was rendered unfit for duty

Why yes, I have had to write a few of these up over the years.
Pfft, if the Air Force were this strict, then about a dozen colonels and GS11-14's would be kicked out for vandalizing my unit's mascot and our HQ while they were drunk (on a work night, no less).  What did they do?  TP'd the HQ, and 'decorated' our mascot (a giant concrete gator) with a red hat, an Angry Birds bag in its mouth, chocolate syrup and maple syrup poured all over it, cotton balls, string cheese, a feather boa and more TP, topped off with a giant cardboard and marker sign mocking us.

And no, this isn't a story from "back in the day", it happened four months ago.

God I love the Air Force  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mad Cat on 19 Mar 2012, 21:53
Single malt Scotch is an acquired taste. To some neophytes, it can be like trying to drink a tree that's on fire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Yarin on 19 Mar 2012, 22:14
*Force 10 Glare*

"You are confined to quarters during your off duty hours for the next five days Lieutenant.  While on duty, you will report to engineering. I'm sure Lieutenant Commander Torres can find ........  suitable duties for you to perform.  Dismissed Lieutenant!"


I hope she likes scrubbing out Plasma Conduits.     :-D

Yeah voyager reference for the win
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Mar 2012, 22:39
We don't actually know when Hannelore came down to earth. We know she's been in therapy since she was eleven, and she said that good therapy wasn't available in orbit. Put those together and you've got a case that she left the station at age 11.  (Links to relevant strips are in the wiki).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 19 Mar 2012, 22:46
In light of today's strip, Hannerdad should porbably not visit the QC discussion forums.

He just wouldn't be able to handle it.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Near Lurker on 19 Mar 2012, 22:48
"...ah... she means her!  Get her!  All she's done is stare at my penis for several minutes, I swear!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 19 Mar 2012, 22:54
i'll put $10 on Science-Daddy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Mar 2012, 23:10
At least the good Lieutenant didn't completely ruin the moment.  That was Hannerdad's job :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Mar 2012, 23:20
Hannerdad probably has faster reactions than Marty.

Hannelore, on the other hand, can almost teleport when she perceives a need. She could be in between them before the first blow landed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Skewbrow on 19 Mar 2012, 23:20
We don't actually know when Hannelore came down to earth. We know she's been in therapy since she was eleven, and she said that good therapy wasn't available in orbit. Put those together and you've got a case that she left the station at age 11.  (Links to relevant strips are in the wiki).

I think that Hannelore's descent to Earth is more recent than that. Her Dad did throw her a sweet-sixteen party. When she wet her pants.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 19 Mar 2012, 23:21
that all depends on whether Marten has or hasn't been taking lessons from The Pugnacious Peach J.


Marquis of Queensbury Rules?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: dreed on 19 Mar 2012, 23:26
huh. I had to google the word schtup to be sure that I understood it properly.
New word for my vocabulary. Thank you QC :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Mar 2012, 23:43
Never pegged an Ellicott-Chatham for usig Yiddish...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 20 Mar 2012, 00:06
A thousand fanhumans just cried out in glee, and more than one has gone off to write some lemon fanfiction.

"Well Hannerdad, I have gotten to second base with her..." (I don't care to go searching for the strip.)

My assumption was that she came down sometime around college age. They said that good therapy wasn't available in orbit - that doesn't mean that she wasn't getting therapy, just that it wasn't from a trained professional in the field. It's been said a couple times that she made the decision to go down, and I doubt that would have happened until she was the age of majority.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 20 Mar 2012, 00:47
Hannelore definitely could have worded that better. :P

And for who would win in a fight: Marten VS. John Ellicott, I'd actually bet on Marten. He may be scrawny but when he wants to he can hit really hard. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 20 Mar 2012, 00:50
Yeah but that was with a "weapon." Bare-fisted, I'd say they're about evenly matched with a slight advantage to Hannerdad since he's older and more experienced.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Akima on 20 Mar 2012, 01:45
Never pegged an Ellicott-Chatham for usig Yiddish...
Doesn't everyone? Do you have the chutzpah to claim you've never used bagel, glitch, klutz, schmaltz, schmuck or schlep? Come on, be a mensch and admit it! If I can use Yiddish, anyone can! I will admit, however, that schtup is not a word I use...

If Dr. E-C holds his fists like that, I don't think Marten is in much danger. Marten has a reach advantage too.

 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 20 Mar 2012, 02:02
I understand, Carl, but the replication of so many near-identical facial expressions in panel four just seemed "off" to me.

Yeah, something about the comic just didn't hit my adorable bone right, and I'm pretty sure that that's it. The beginning is really sweet, but then they're all just lookin' at them. Thank goodness Potter came in to save the day.

I couldn't help but wonder how many of them actually know Hanners either. Obviously she grew up on the station and we know that a lot of the older scientists and workers there do, but some of them look pretty young. Having them just staring at a girl they only know as "the boss's daughter" like that is even odder.

Also pointing out the differences between the panels made me notice the person on the left with their back to the scene. Also strange.

All in all, though...pretty cute. The HannerHug and having Marigold turned in towards the Science Man like that made up for some of the creepy.

Well, how long ago did Hanners leave the station? She's 22 now and I'm pretty sure she was there during her teen years. As far as I know* she could have left between ages 15-17. Maybe even 18. That's only 4-7 years off station. Most of the people could have probably been there like 5 years. Yeah, most of them would at least have a 4 year degree of some sort, but everyone's a genius so some people probably got a degree and went up to the station at like 18 or something.

*sorry if it's known when she left and I'm way off
This might explain my own dissatisfaction with the comic. I assumed she left the station near 11 when no good therapists could be found in space. Most of the people in the picture look young. I suspect E-C hunts down the child geniuses and lures them to work there IN SPACE at a young age. And I'm sure IN SPACE loses its luster after 5 years when you are young and have nowhere to really party.

Additionally these are scientists and they aren't social science types: you don't go into space to study people's social interaction. How many of them have average or above average social quotients? IOW, how many have the capacity to remember Dad's daughter is OCD, how exactly it mannifested, or the significance of the hug? The scene is too D'awwww.
We don't actually know when Hannelore came down to earth. We know she's been in therapy since she was eleven, and she said that good therapy wasn't available in orbit. Put those together and you've got a case that she left the station at age 11.  (Links to relevant strips are in the wiki).

I think that Hannelore's descent to Earth is more recent than that. Her Dad did throw her a sweet-sixteen party. When she wet her pants.
She didn't need to be in orbit for dad to throw her a party. Parties do happen in rented halls, I hear, perhaps even in the QC universe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 20 Mar 2012, 02:10
Never pegged an Ellicott-Chatham for usig Yiddish...
Doesn't everyone? Do you have the chutzpah to claim you've never used bagel, glitch, klutz, schmaltz, schmuck or schlep? Come on, be a mensch and admit it! If I can use Yiddish, anyone can! I will admit, however, that schtup is not a word I use...
No. But for me Yiddish is comedians like Buddy Hackett. I know no one who speaks it commonly.

But seriously, who says schtup? Does anyone besides me want to go back a read all his dialog with a Yiddish accent?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: bhtooefr on 20 Mar 2012, 02:38
I recall a comic in which she said she poured boiling water on someone who tried to kiss her in 8th grade?

Which would put the timeline at 14 or so for her coming down to Earth, at the latest, and she had to have been functional enough to go to a school.

Edit: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=896
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2012, 02:52
I read that as that she tried to sterilise herself using the boiling water, not pouring it on the boy.

Anyway, even if she came down for school then, do we know that she stayed down rather than going back up for holidays while still at school, for instance?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pendrake on 20 Mar 2012, 03:01
For comic #2147... (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2147)

1. Seeing Professor Ellicot-Chatnam's reaction, it is nice to know that forum-goers are not the only ones to 'ship Hanners + Marten so easily, quickly, or misinterpretedly :angel: .

2. While I am certain the 'shippers are in high-gear for it, panel #3 where Hannelore and Marten are sharing the look towards each other was a very meaningful moment for me.  However, it was more akin to Faye & Marten's moment back at #1564 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1564) rather than anything potentially romantic.

3. Oh, and the way Hanners is depicted in panel #2 & #3 is very well done art-wise, very expressive (and cute, of course).

4. I had just been reading a science article about the Higgs Bosun particle prior to this strip.  Either that is very eerie timing, or Jeph also keeps up with current scientific fads &/or meme's (yes, there are science meme's.  be very afraid).

5. @bhtooefr... Comic #896 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=896) is what you are thinking of, I believe.  However, Hannelore used the boiling water on herself in a sterlizing panic, not on the kisser-boy.  [EDIT ADD: I see you found it yourself.  *taps com-badge* Enterprise, one Archive Jockey to beam up.  *dematerializes*]

6. Warning - While you were typing, two new replies were posted.  Fortunately one of them is in agreement with yours, so you probably do not need to revise your post.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: no one special on 20 Mar 2012, 04:08
Quote
Scienceweight is one division up from Mistakeweight and one division below Kittenweight.

Where is the Shakeweight division?   :laugh:

(http://mimg.ugo.com/201009/61363/cuts/shake-weight-for-men_480x480.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Sidhekin on 20 Mar 2012, 04:12
I read that as that she tried to sterilise herself using the boiling water, not pouring it on the boy.
Notice the title of that one: "Wait, On Him Or Her?"

Ambiguity intended or merely acknowledged?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2012, 04:25
Good spot - I'd say ambiguity acknowledged, but not originally intended.  Only Jeph can say, though, and he probably wouldn't even remember now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 20 Mar 2012, 04:30
First thing that went through my mind on reachign the last panel was "Perhaps the smug smile was NOT the expression to have been wearing at that time Marty..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: auctoritas on 20 Mar 2012, 04:51
For comic #2146...

4. Drunken Lt. Potter and her (somewhat) ruining the moment is a very good reminder of why I no longer drink.  Being way in the rear of the crowd and mostly blocked from view, hopefully she is not "cheering" this moment in only a bra and panties :evil: .


I think your hope is misplaced.  Check her uniform in the previous strips (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2132  for instance), they are most assuredly long-sleeved. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: StevenC on 20 Mar 2012, 04:56
First thing that went through my mind on reachign the last panel was "Perhaps the smug smile was NOT the expression to have been wearing at that time Marty..."
Precisely. Smug smile and hands on your hips speaks "Yeah, I hit that". You might not want to look like that in front of her father.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Throg on 20 Mar 2012, 05:05
Never pegged an Ellicott-Chatham for usig Yiddish...
Doesn't everyone? Do you have the chutzpah to claim you've never used bagel, glitch, klutz, schmaltz, schmuck or schlep? Come on, be a mensch and admit it! If I can use Yiddish, anyone can! I will admit, however, that schtup is not a word I use...


As an asian-american, raised in jewish suburbia, I would rate the english-yiddish axis as:
Bagel<glitch<klutz<schmuck, chutzpah<mensch<shlep<schtup<schmaltz.  (tongue firmly in cheek)

So, yeah, an Ellicott-Chatham  using a very Yiddish expression was surprising, and funny. Protective dad is protective!

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Jabberwocky on 20 Mar 2012, 05:23
i'll put $10 on Science-Daddy.
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Technoir on 20 Mar 2012, 05:39
Single malt Scotch is an acquired taste. To some neophytes, it can be like trying to drink a tree that's on fire.

Fo shizzle.  I'd only had mid-range blends until just a couple of years ago...the kind where you have a couple drinks and then switch to bottom shelf because your taste buds have been thoroughly desensitized and paying extra for somethign you can no longer taste appreciatively makes no sense... but then I was introduced to fine single malts... and there is such a gulf of difference! I now have a taste reference for "peaty" and "boggish". I can't describe them, but I know what they taste like, LOL. I still like blends, but I'm kind of uppity there now, and will only rape my palate with Chivas Royal Salute or JW Gold or Blue.  JW Blue, btw, has to be about the smoothest Scotch I've ever  dribbled into my boozehole.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Technoir on 20 Mar 2012, 05:43
Never pegged an Ellicott-Chatham for usig Yiddish...
Doesn't everyone? Do you have the chutzpah to claim you've never used bagel, glitch, klutz, schmaltz, schmuck or schlep? Come on, be a mensch and admit it! If I can use Yiddish, anyone can! I will admit, however, that schtup is not a word I use...

If Dr. E-C holds his fists like that, I don't think Marten is in much danger. Marten has a reach advantage too.

I use "schmutz" all the time when cleaning gunk out of mouse buttons, keyboards and trackball sensors.  I schmuck occasionally, and throw out the odd schtupping. I don't eat bagels, schmear or no.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: NotsoAverageJoe on 20 Mar 2012, 06:16
hehe, once a dad always a dad.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2012, 06:22
It works for mums, too (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=459).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Black Sword on 20 Mar 2012, 06:53
We are always the babies of our parents.

Or the Song of Fire & Ice series, forget exactly which book it was, but there was a a point of 400+ pages of text and the most exciting and active thing that happened was an army marched across a farmer's crop field into a village :psyduck: .

What in the world are you talking about? I just finished a re-read of the series (and have now added A Dance with Dragons to my completion list!) and have no idea what you're referring to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: squab on 20 Mar 2012, 07:03
I recall a comic in which she said she poured boiling water on someone who tried to kiss her in 8th grade?

Which would put the timeline at 14 or so for her coming down to Earth, at the latest, and she had to have been functional enough to go to a school.

Edit: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=896

Maybe she lived on the station but commuted to Earth to go to school?

...

BEST. COMMUTE. EVER.

Also, here's a more recent strip for us to think about:

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2134

This one gives the impression that she moved down to earth much later. Also, it's known that she didn't get GOOD therapy until she moved down to earth; none of the therapists that came up station side particularly helped her. Rather, Station did. Not sure how the "8th grade kiss" fits in.

We need an official ruling from Jeph. I'm certain that he planned out an intricate back story for her character before he started writing her.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 20 Mar 2012, 07:15
In panel one Marigold looks like she's thinking "Gee, I wish someone would give me a hug."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Madmartigan on 20 Mar 2012, 07:40
And out comes the Yiddish. :-D

No, poppa Hanners......

I don't think Hanners is anywhere close to the sharing of the bodily fluids. :psyduck: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 20 Mar 2012, 07:58
As an asian-american, raised in jewish suburbia, I would rate the english-yiddish axis as:
Bagel<glitch<klutz<schmuck, chutzpah<mensch<shlep<schtup<schmaltz.  (tongue firmly in cheek)

So, yeah, an Ellicott-Chatham  using a very Yiddish expression was surprising, and funny. Protective dad is protective!
Well, bagels are ubiquitous in the Northeast US. Calling them Jewish is like calling pizza Italian. (the word is Italian, the food not so much)

Glitch is used in most engineering and computer fields so much it barely qualifies as jargon these days.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Mar 2012, 08:06
The same for Klutz, ever since the series of activity books came out (Juggling for the complete Klutz, etc) it's become common usage. 

And early everyoe kows what a schmuck is.  Chutzpah, not so much -  and from there, I think Throg has the right heirarchy of commonality of usage.  There are other cultural vulgarities for schtupping that people learn early enough in life that they come out in the heat of the moment. 

Hell, my mother's family spoke Yiddish at home, and I don't even use schtup regularly that way - though my wife and I used to make schmaltz when we were first married (you can't have good chopped liver without it)...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2012, 08:17
Quote from: James Nicoll writing about English
It not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary

Some Yiddish expressions are so common now they count as loan words.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 20 Mar 2012, 08:28
Obviously Hannerdad does not know the appropriate man-code (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1034).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: SonofMog on 20 Mar 2012, 08:34
I think your hope is misplaced.  Check her uniform in the previous strips (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2132 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2132)  for instance), they are most assuredly long-sleeved.

There is still hope that the good Ms. Potter is still somewhat clothed, to principle. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2133)


(Modified to fix the broken link - Method)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Schmorgluck on 20 Mar 2012, 08:49
I now have a taste reference for "peaty" and "boggish". I can't describe them, but I know what they taste like, LOL.
Oh, so I guess you must love Islay whiskies, then, and Laphroaig in particular, the most peaty whisky in the world. (Important note to whisky lovers: it's a bad idea to buy a bottle of Laphroaig if you have never tasted it. It's taste is very, very peculiar.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 20 Mar 2012, 08:52
But delicious! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2012, 09:17
Laphroaig in particular, the most peaty whisky in the world.

Lagavulin is peatier in my experience.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Yarin on 20 Mar 2012, 09:22
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
futurama strikes again
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Throg on 20 Mar 2012, 09:41
"Loanword"! That's the very term.  Yeah, bagel, glitch and klutz are definitely loanwords now, whereas I hardly hear anyone mentioning schmaltz or schmaltz-y anymore. 

= = =

single malt of choice: Ardbeg. Extremely smoky / peaty.  Must compare with Lagavulin in the near future!



Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 20 Mar 2012, 09:44
In panel one Marigold looks like she's thinking "Gee, I wish someone would give me a hug."

Actually I think it's her trying to sneak away to do some hugging with a certain science man...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2012, 11:07
We really have a global communications system now. As all those Yiddish words were being coined, I bet the speakers never imagined a Chinese-Australian using them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 20 Mar 2012, 11:20
I believe that all of the Islay single malt distillers have a secret step in the process.  Instead of distilling their whisky and putting it in barrels to age, they pour it into another still filled with peat, let it set for a few days, and then distill it again. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mordhaus on 20 Mar 2012, 13:29
Actually, his boxing stance is the same as the old bare knuckle boxing from the early days of prizefighting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 20 Mar 2012, 14:45
Am I the only one that noticed Marten's puffed up appearance in the third panel? The sly smirk might have gone unnoticed by Hannerdad if not for the puffed out chest and the obvious eye contact. That made me giggle more than anything.

Also: Hey, I'm a newcomer. Please don't violently beat my comment and contribution into submission :D Enjoying reading about the timeline problems, they make me all fangirly inside.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: twitch532 on 20 Mar 2012, 14:47
You guys know Hanner's father's name is just Elliot, not Elliot-Chatham, right? Hanner's Mother was named Chatham, that's why she's Elliot-Chatham. He's just Elliot.

As for the shipping, Hanners looks at Martin a little too friendly in the second to last panel and looks a bit more embarrassed in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 20 Mar 2012, 15:06
Ellicott, actually. And when we first meet him, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2118) the man himself states he can't remember whether it's Ellicott-Chatham or just Ellicott, since the divorce.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 20 Mar 2012, 15:13
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
futurama strikes again
Huh? That's an original series Star Trek reference.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 20 Mar 2012, 15:14
As for the shipping, Hanners looks at Martin a little too friendly in the second to last panel and looks a bit more embarrassed in the last panel.
I assumed the looks exchanged here involved thanks and pride.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 20 Mar 2012, 16:47
As for the shipping, Hanners looks at Martin a little too friendly in the second to last panel and looks a bit more embarrassed in the last panel.
I assumed the looks exchanged here involved thanks and pride.

Nah. We're talking about a webcomic. No matter how sophisticated or intelligent a webcomic, shipping always comes first. All looks are shipping looks.
I shouldn't say that, I actually do ship Hanners and Marten. But, I don't think Hannelore could ever actually get over her crippling anxieties enough to have sex with a boy and that would blue ball Marten to no end. Lose-lose, there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 20 Mar 2012, 17:05
Disagree. I think thanks and pride describe it, from all we've seen between those two. But I suppose if physical attraction is intended, we'll be the next to know. Speaking of which, whatever happened between Marigold and her scientist, I recall that she knows the booty dance, even if she hasn't yet had good reason to do it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Near Lurker on 20 Mar 2012, 17:14
I'd say chutzpah is more commonly used in English than schmuck nowadays.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: treyhawk on 20 Mar 2012, 17:15
I loved today's comic ...

... but now I really want to see kittenweight boxing.

Someone page ICHC...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 20 Mar 2012, 18:36
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
futurama strikes again
Huh? That's an original series Star Trek reference.

Confirmed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 20 Mar 2012, 18:50
I'd say chutzpah is more commonly used in English than schmuck nowadays.
My favorite is farblondjet, rarely understood in my part of rural Michigan. It means lost or confused, and it describes me trying to steer through some of the unfamiliar cultural references in the comic and the forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Mar 2012, 18:58
I don't know about you schmucks, but I'm all verklempt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 20 Mar 2012, 19:29
I don't know about you schmucks, but I'm all verklempt.
I didn't think we were THAT good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Schmorgluck on 20 Mar 2012, 20:30
Laphroaig in particular, the most peaty whisky in the world.

Lagavulin is peatier in my experience.
Color me puzzled on that one. Lagavulin is strongly peaty, definitely more than Bowmore. I can't really compare it to Ardbeg, because while I had Ardbeg recently, I haven't had Lagavulin in years. So I can't say which one is peatier among those two. But none of them come close to being as peaty as Laphroaig.
Unless, of course, you put at play various ages of whiskies, in which case I suppose some ages of Lagavulin can taste more peaty than some ages of Laphroaig. But I still find it unlikely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Milesb on 20 Mar 2012, 20:39
I highly doubt Jeph would ever write a Marten/Hanners love interest arc. Stranger things have happened in QC, but I think it's the kind of thing that would earn him massive complaints (not that he'd care hugely I hope, but it'd be a pain to deal with for him) and doesn't seem to fit my own personal understanding of the characters involved.

I think Hanners was just smiling at Marten because he's the closest friend she has, who has helped her to come to some kind of terms with a bunch of her issues. If anything I've always thought Marten was being a bit of a surrogate father when he helped Hanners. And Marten is proud of Hanners because she's pushing her boundaries and (I'd imagine) because visiting the station has made him realize just how far Hanners has come since she was last there.

Maybe Marten's overdoing it a bit - Dora, Faye and Marigold have all helped Hanners in their own ways as well, but he's the only person around to take some credit for it, so I think it's easily forgiveable.

I'm just really, really hoping that there isn't some ...silliness between Hanners and Marten in this arc. They seem a lot closer, and maybe it's easy to imagine that as sweet and stuff, but I suspect Jeph would turn anything vocalized or physically instigated into a prompt for a full on mental regression for Hanners and/or awkwardness between the two, and everything would be bad and we'd all feel bad.

 :psyduck:

Ed: That's in reply to Kenyahp, should have quoted - that'll be the exhaustion kicking in. Don't want people to think I just type up big reply style messages when there was no original post. I'm not that far gone yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Blackjoker on 20 Mar 2012, 20:42
For some reason I imagine Marten sounding remeniscent of a 3 stooges soundboard in that last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2012, 21:02
The return address on the robot boyfriend was "John Ellicott Chatham".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 20 Mar 2012, 21:18

I'm just really, really hoping that there isn't some ...silliness between Hanners and Marten in this arc. They seem a lot closer, and maybe it's easy to imagine that as sweet and stuff, but I suspect Jeph would turn anything vocalized or physically instigated into a prompt for a full on mental regression for Hanners and/or awkwardness between the two, and everything would be bad and we'd all feel bad.


Heres the thing. I agree 100% with everything stated, especially your final paragraph which is why I posted it. And, of course, Marten would be just like crazy jumping women if he ever got with Hanners.

I get the awkward and the regression argument, too. But, dammit, I need a guilty pleasure and that guilty pleasure is imagining Hanners being normal enough and strong enough to try a relationship.

While I know it'll never happen unless the QC universe explodes similar to Sore Thumbs Universe, its still a nice idea to keep in the "If I ever go crazy and need to read irrational fanfiction" bank.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 20 Mar 2012, 21:21
The return address on the robot boyfriend was "John Ellicott Chatham".

Comic found: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1010
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Mar 2012, 22:03
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
futurama strikes again
Huh? That's an original series Star Trek reference.
Confirmed.

Actually, it was used in a Simpson's episode - Deep Space Homer (the one where he eats potato chips in zero G).  Pretty close to futurama, I suppose. 

So there's now a secondary reference...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 20 Mar 2012, 22:15
Re: Marten/Hanners:
Strangely enough for the way they met, I think Marten and Hanners are the two QC characters who respect each other the most. That ought to affect any future developments in their mutual relationship, in whichever direction Jeph takes it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Mar 2012, 23:28
I get the awkward and the regression argument, too. But, dammit, I need a guilty pleasure and that guilty pleasure is imagining Hanners being normal enough and strong enough to try a relationship.

I think Hannelore has some vague thoughts in that direction, and she's on a trajectory that might lead to good things in a future too distant to be visible from here. She has a good heart.

Something you and other new people haven't seen is a history of mistreatment of Hannelore's sexuality on the forum, and the incandescent backlash to it (things got spectacular for a while). Many people here are rubbed raw and may seem to overreact to Hannelore relationship forecasting.

(moderator)
You're doing fine! You're within the rules. You would have heard about it if you weren't.
(/moderator)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: lunakitten on 21 Mar 2012, 00:06
Oh, Marigold no....  :-o
And couldn't the good Doctor E-C just be a Mel Brooks fan? I learned a lot of Yiddish that way. Plus, Madeline Kahn... Sigh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Soulsynger on 21 Mar 2012, 00:13
I have never known awkwardness like this before. ... You'd think you've seen it all and along comes a Schlemihl like Jacques. °O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Yarin on 21 Mar 2012, 00:15
New comic up aww poor marigold
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Torlek on 21 Mar 2012, 00:19
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
futurama strikes again
Huh? That's an original series Star Trek reference.
Confirmed.

Actually, it was used in a Simpson's episode - Deep Space Homer (the one where he eats potato chips in zero G).  Pretty close to futurama, I suppose. 

So there's now a secondary reference...

The quote originates in the ToS episode 'Gamesters of Triskellon'. Quatloos as a betting medium were again referenced in the Futurama episode 'Where No Fan Has Gone Before' which was nothing but an homage/send up of ToS. I guess Matt Groening loves him some Star Trek. So everyone wins!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 21 Mar 2012, 00:41
I just realized that Marigold was trying to hold it in for the sake of make-outs.
That only makes my cry of "Damnit, Jeph!" even more emphatic!

And now Hannelore has more evidence for her argument that kissing is gross (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1885).


...
You know, if QC continues on for another 2000 strips, literally every reply in the forums at that stage will be pointing out an in-joke or previously established trivia from the distant past. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Y on 21 Mar 2012, 01:53
I guess the space janitor will have fun tracking down every vomit particle.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 21 Mar 2012, 02:09
I guess the space janitor will have fun tracking down every vomit particle.
They'll fall somewhere after a pretty short time. It is microgravity not zero-gravity.

The killer for me here is she knew going to microgravity was a bad idea and didn't warn him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: idontunderstand on 21 Mar 2012, 02:14
Mwahaha. She tries to kiss him again after hurling. Didn't notice that the first time. Po' gal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TinPenguin on 21 Mar 2012, 02:18
As for the shipping, Hanners looks at Martin a little too friendly in the second to last panel and looks a bit more embarrassed in the last panel.
I assumed the looks exchanged here involved thanks and pride.
I shouldn't say that, I actually do ship Hanners and Marten.

I ship Marten and Hanners. That is, I friendship them. I absolutely love their dynamic as best friends and my feeling there is as strong as any shipper. For me, a big part of that is the unsexual nature of it. A lot of male/female close friendships are built around low-level flirting and a kind of platonic intimacy. That's not how Marten and Hanners are. I love them as friends because they gel so well together without there being any need for romantic speculation.

Anyway, WOO ZERO-G MAKEOUTS
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Soulsynger on 21 Mar 2012, 02:32
I guess the space janitor will have fun tracking down every vomit particle.
They'll fall somewhere after a pretty short time. It is microgravity not zero-gravity.
Still, those wet stains will dance around like dry dust as soon as you try to mop them up. Not envying that one.

And why is Marigold vomiting blue? (Panel 6, bottom left corner)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 21 Mar 2012, 02:47
Ah, few things ruin a sexy mood like a generous bit of puking. And who'd really want to kiss the mouth of someone who just puked?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: slydon on 21 Mar 2012, 02:51
Hannersmarten would nice each other to death. While I imagine that would appeal to both of them right now... there's just no place for the relationship to go w/o breaking character.
It has my heart's vote, but not my mind's.

Also, Space Ham turns blue when it goes bad?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 21 Mar 2012, 04:22
Social cluing - Ms. Farmer could use just a little more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Latias on 21 Mar 2012, 04:23
There's more to a relationship than just sex - like, you know, love. It would be pretty out of character for Hannelore to make excessive physical contact or have sex with Marten, but there is such a thing as a relationship without sex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Delator on 21 Mar 2012, 04:30
Dammit, Francis, you are alone in a zero-gravity observation deck with a young lady who wants to make out with you. You get in there, vomit aftertaste be damned. Be a man.

While I wasn't keeping track of the party, I think they are both several drinks away from reaching that stage.  :-P

I guess the space janitor will have fun tracking down every vomit particle.

Liquids tend to form spheres in zero G.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-091126-shuttle-seida.photoblog900.jpg

I don't envy the janitor his job, but it's probably not going to be a scavenger hunt for space ham.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: JRDelirio on 21 Mar 2012, 05:18
aww... poor MarMar, she wants this to happen so badly but has no idea of how to handle it (she may have grown to rely on Momo's "social protocol" function to intervene in the nick of time in awkward scenarios but that is kind of useless if she's not there when the situation arises...)


The killer for me here is she knew going to microgravity was a bad idea and didn't warn him.
  Yeah, Francis would have understood if she had said "I get terribly spacesick", it's a common enough occurrence (and he surely could think of an alternative?).   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Milesb on 21 Mar 2012, 05:25
See? This is what I mean! Jeph never writes happy arcs!

 :psyduck:

I cringed so hard I almost fell out my chair!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Black Sword on 21 Mar 2012, 06:34
.....ick. It is a sign of true love to even lightly peck someone on the lips after that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 21 Mar 2012, 07:02
It could have been worse.  She could have been kissing him and thrown up in his mouth.  See "The Khaki Girl" episode of the Canadian cartoon series 6teen for an example of that horror.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Schmorgluck on 21 Mar 2012, 07:17
Dammit, Francis, you are alone in a zero-gravity observation deck with a young lady who wants to make out with you. You get in there, vomit aftertaste be damned. Be a man.
Actually, it doesn't take long for the aftertaste (if any) to disappear. How would I know? Well... let's just say that my first kiss was kinda messed up...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Throg on 21 Mar 2012, 07:19
Right now, Jeph is like the Success Kid Meme.  "I grossed out at least 10 people on the forums".  ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Mar 2012, 07:34
Class act, that Marigold, class act indeed..... :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 21 Mar 2012, 07:35
Yeah, Francis would have understood if she had said "I get terribly spacesick", it's a common enough occurrence (and he surely could think of an alternative?).   

She was just trying to be brave. Francis better not be a dick about it  :x
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 21 Mar 2012, 07:51
Also, Space Ham turns blue when it goes bad?

She probably had a drink or two from the blue-colored punch(?) bowl. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: RyanW1019 on 21 Mar 2012, 08:09
*shakes fist*

Dammit Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Madmartigan on 21 Mar 2012, 08:17
Eeeeeeh.  Poor, Marty.  No Zero G kisses for you.  Marigold is all over that one. 

Too bad she has a weak stomach though.


And yea......no vomit tasting kisses for me.  Run York!  Find some mouth wash.  Then continue.  Not in Zero G.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Mar 2012, 08:40
The experience of our existing space stations is that unwanted and lost objects follow air currents. Solid ones eventually get found against ventilator grills. Liquid ones must happen enough that they should be allowed for in the design of life support systems: maybe a cold trap or a centrifuge in the air recirculation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 21 Mar 2012, 08:41

I think Hannelore has some vague thoughts in that direction, and she's on a trajectory that might lead to good things in a future too distant to be visible from here. She has a good heart.

Something you and other new people haven't seen is a history of mistreatment of Hannelore's sexuality on the forum, and the incandescent backlash to it (things got spectacular for a while). Many people here are rubbed raw and may seem to overreact to Hannelore relationship forecasting.

(moderator)
You're doing fine! You're within the rules. You would have heard about it if you weren't.
(/moderator)

Ah man. See, I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw some vague undefined thoughts from Hanners. I thought maybe I was fangirling too hard.

I'm not forecasting a relationship, either. I don't want either person to break character (one person mentioned but I'm stupid and can't quote more than one thing at a time...) and, currently, it would uber break character. However, its still a cute thing to think about.

I think the main thing is is that I relate to Hanners a bit more than the other characters. I'm not OCD, no, but I get those crippling anxieties and, even if her's are over-the-top, its nice to see I'm not crazy. I guess I'm like a mix of Hannelore and Faye, ultimately. So, I want her to be happy and I think she likes Marten. So, therefore, I ship her and Marten. But you won't see me argueing against the reasons why it could never happen ;) I'll just squeee myself to death every time something cute happens between them.

Sidenote: Aww man, todays strip had ick-factor extreme. Poor Marigold :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 21 Mar 2012, 08:43
Considering her already demonstrated susceptibility, why wasn't she already carrying a barf bag with her?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 21 Mar 2012, 08:55
I'm thinking that, unintentionally, her young little suitor IS her barf bag. Poor guy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Milesb on 21 Mar 2012, 09:07
There's nothing like overcoming an anxiety only for everything to go spectacularly wrong.

I don't know if I'd prefer to see Marigold and scientist-guy (what's his name guys?) talking and maybe helping her not feel hugely embarrassed via the medium of makeouts, or if it should just cut to Marigold crying in the toilets while Hanners does her best to help her.

Oh god.
Marigold is sick all over Hanners in the toilet, causing hanners to completely lose the plot.

She tells Station that the entire station must go W.O.O.* saying That'll teach you to be breadbaskets!

A heroic couple of moments including Marigold hacking station and Marten forcing ancient Whisky down Hanner's throat to bring her back to her senses conclude the space arc.

I'm crying tears of pain and I'm calling it.

*With Out Oxygen
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Mar 2012, 09:49
I don't think I've mentioned this before, and Jeph doesn't often draw her this way, but I just love  Marigold's profile.  Not the profile itself, but the fact that Jeph does such a good job with her severe overbite - it's very realistic, and adds a great deal to her character. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 21 Mar 2012, 09:58
Agreed. Though, it took me a while to even notice she had one when she first showed up. Another thing is that her face has cleared up in the front considerably.

My money's on Hannelore forcing her into a very strange and very intense skin care regimen.
Marbear is definitely one of the cutest of all the characters, though. I know people like her, also, so it makes this strip ten times more hilarious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 21 Mar 2012, 10:31
Looking back at today's comic and trying to figure out how the chamber cleans itself: Air circulation at first thought, but at second thought, the two of them "ascended" in that chamber from a standing position to an apparently weightless position kind of rapidly. But if there really is a gradient of centrifugal force, i.e., an appearance of gravity, then Marigold's hurl would drift, then accelerate toward the surface the two of them just left, and splatter. Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 21 Mar 2012, 10:42
The whole of that chamber is in the spindle, and so has little gravity; we saw that when they first arrived at the space station and Marten pushed himself too hard (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2112).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: StevenC on 21 Mar 2012, 10:46
I think the momentum it has as it exits her mouth will carry it in the direction she looked at until it hits something and splashes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 21 Mar 2012, 11:02
Right, spindle. Forgot spindle.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Overkillengine on 21 Mar 2012, 12:03
Dammit, Francis, you are alone in a zero-gravity observation deck with a young lady who wants to make out with you. You get in there, vomit aftertaste be damned. Be a man.
Actually, it doesn't take long for the aftertaste (if any) to disappear. How would I know? Well... let's just say that my first kiss was kinda messed up...

Hell, cigarette smoking leaves an aftertaste that sticks around longer.

However some alcohol carried along would have made a good on the spot mouth rinse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Mar 2012, 12:09
Hmmm... Racist Grandma with a hint of vomit...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Mar 2012, 12:31
Quote from: jeph jacques (via Twitter)
At the end of QC, Marten is given three choices but no matter what you pick Faye barfs on him and headbutts him in the balls
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: StevenC on 21 Mar 2012, 12:37
Quote from: Jeph Jacques
let's make a QC video game, it can be equal parts dating sim and Street Fighter II
I am okay with this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: qdanielgrant on 21 Mar 2012, 12:41

I think Hannelore has some vague thoughts in that direction, and she's on a trajectory that might lead to good things in a future too distant to be visible from here. She has a good heart.

Something you and other new people haven't seen is a history of mistreatment of Hannelore's sexuality on the forum, and the incandescent backlash to it (things got spectacular for a while). Many people here are rubbed raw and may seem to overreact to Hannelore relationship forecasting.

(moderator)
You're doing fine! You're within the rules. You would have heard about it if you weren't.
(/moderator)

Ah man. See, I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw some vague undefined thoughts from Hanners. I thought maybe I was fangirling too hard.

I'm not forecasting a relationship, either. I don't want either person to break character (one person mentioned but I'm stupid and can't quote more than one thing at a time...) and, currently, it would uber break character. However, its still a cute thing to think about.

I think the main thing is is that I relate to Hanners a bit more than the other characters. I'm not OCD, no, but I get those crippling anxieties and, even if her's are over-the-top, its nice to see I'm not crazy. I guess I'm like a mix of Hannelore and Faye, ultimately. So, I want her to be happy and I think she likes Marten. So, therefore, I ship her and Marten. But you won't see me argueing against the reasons why it could never happen ;) I'll just squeee myself to death every time something cute happens between them.

Sidenote: Aww man, todays strip had ick-factor extreme. Poor Marigold :(


I totally get this and I want to Hanners in a relationship too, but that doesn't mean it has to be a relationship with Marten or a heterosexual relationship either. Maybe the best option for her is a Hetero-Asexual relationship. Romance without the physical and sex part. That important part is that no matter what Jeph writes for Hanners is that it must be organic (aka sounds right in his mind for his characters) and hopefully more people will accept that attitude that you said:

"So, I want her to be happy"

Clearly, she is just human and wants to have the same experiences that other people enjoy.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2056
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1768
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1659

sidenote: Marbear, I KNOW YOUR PAIN
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Throg on 21 Mar 2012, 13:28
Along the lines of really, really nitpicking:

Was Marigold drunk? // did Mari initiate the kissing, or did Francis?

Francis was definitely leading her to a place to watch the stars and hold hands (and zero-g makeouts). And Mari was definitely nervous about going back to zero-g but definitely wanted to continue.

But it's hard to tell if Mari grabbed Francis and drew him in for a kiss, or if Mari just wanted to stabilize for a bit and Francis leaned in for the kiss. 

For that matter, it seems like Marigold isn't thinking too clearly. She hurls right after a kiss, wipes her mouth, and then leans in for another kiss?  Really?  There's such a thing as a desperate, antisocial, clueless nerd, but for goodness sake she just upchucked in a bright, well-lit, zero-g place -- presumably the remnants of space ham are floating around, in plain sight, pink blobbs of chewed-up goo -- and then she went in for another kiss? 

It seems that if Marigold felt pressure to keep up with Francis, then she might feel she has to 'keep up at all costs', but if she initiated the kiss, it seems she'd be a lot more embarrassed and hesitant to continue.

my overthought $0.02

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: LTK on 21 Mar 2012, 13:30
No drunk bubbles, Marigold is just a bit... overzealous.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: St.Clair on 21 Mar 2012, 15:14
A Yiddish word I use often, and which fits the current strip perfectly:
"Oy."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 21 Mar 2012, 17:20

I totally get this and I want to Hanners in a relationship too, but that doesn't mean it has to be a relationship with Marten or a heterosexual relationship either. Maybe the best option for her is a Hetero-Asexual relationship. Romance without the physical and sex part. That important part is that no matter what Jeph writes for Hanners is that it must be organic (aka sounds right in his mind for his characters) and hopefully more people will accept that attitude that you said:

"So, I want her to be happy"

Clearly, she is just human and wants to have the same experiences that other people enjoy.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2056
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1768
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1659

sidenote: Marbear, I KNOW YOUR PAIN

Oh, I know. I totally agree. I am just in full on agreement mode today about Hanners. I just think Marten would be the most understanding. But, you know, I kinda really REALLY liked the Hanners-Sven arc. The one you posted, 1768, the panel where they just look at each other always makes me kinda sad.

Heres whats weird for me. Marten is the only character I've never really felt was...real, you know? I can't explain it. But, hes just so nice all the time, maybe thats why. So passive. And I just think Hannelore needs someone passive enough to deal with her anxieties. At the same time, Sven took good care of her that night. So, maybe she needs someone trying to change their life at the same time, too.

You're right. She is human. And, as a human that emphasizes super easily with characters, I want her to also have the same thing we as humans get to enjoy: Physical contact. And, if a hug is all she can do, then, damn, thats her sex and more power to her. So. Maybe thats why I ship Marten. Because hes the only one other then Sven (who, you know, is probably not good for her) that would let her be her that I've seen so far. I am no stranger to changing ships. But, for now, I'm going to fangirl.

(sorry for the long posts, everyone. I will stop, seriously.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Madmartigan on 21 Mar 2012, 17:32
I get the awkward and the regression argument, too. But, dammit, I need a guilty pleasure and that guilty pleasure is imagining Hanners being normal enough and strong enough to try a relationship.

I think Hannelore has some vague thoughts in that direction, and she's on a trajectory that might lead to good things in a future too distant to be visible from here. She has a good heart.

Something you and other new people haven't seen is a history of mistreatment of Hannelore's sexuality on the forum, and the incandescent backlash to it (things got spectacular for a while). Many people here are rubbed raw and may seem to overreact to Hannelore relationship forecasting.

(moderator)
You're doing fine! You're within the rules. You would have heard about it if you weren't.
(/moderator)

As it is, people on teh intarwebs aren't very mature about much unfortunately.  It's a pitfall of a webcomic guy.  You can get away with a lot more with solid books than stuff online because you don't really have to deal with shit online.  I don't envy Jeph. 

That said.

Hanners is definitely the engine the makes this comic go ever since her introduction.  And whether platonic for good or romantic down the line, the Hanners/Marty dynamic is the most interesting.


Anyway.  I'm more curious about Marbear getting teh bootycall in space and poor Marty being left without right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 21 Mar 2012, 17:35
Is there a way to like comments like its facebook? I would totally like yours, Madmartingan. You did a great job of basically summing up some of my own thoughts.

Marbear deserves a bootycall. She just threw up trying to kiss a dude. That deserves a damn metal of honor of something. Especially when she tries again. Plus, Marten just had sex like...a while ago. With Padme. Although, its been, what? Three weeks since she left? I don't know time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Mar 2012, 17:45
In here, no one knows time... there are good guesses, but it's not a well defined thing. 

No facebook-like liking, sorry. 


@Throg, I'm pretty sure Marigold inititated the kissing, knowing full well what may happen, and trying to get it in before having to deal with the *ICK* factor.  'Twas unfortunate, but damnably funny! 


Edit: sticky "n" key
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: qdanielgrant on 21 Mar 2012, 18:01
I can only hope for continued Zero-G makeouts on Thursday. Though I will settle for fisticuffs, I'm sure John EC has a robot exoskeleton or something to take on Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 21 Mar 2012, 18:05
Ah man. I would always settle for fisticuffs if Zero-G makeouts aren't available.

Its strange how often that comes up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Mar 2012, 19:14
I hear, no one knows time... there are good guesses, but it's not a well defined thing. 
<snip>
Hodges' law.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: cesariojpn on 21 Mar 2012, 19:41
Clearly, she is just human and wants to have the same experiences that other people enjoy.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2056
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1768
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1659

You forgot: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1660
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Mar 2012, 19:56
I hope Marten doesn't say to Hannerdad "All I did was poke her!".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: qdanielgrant on 21 Mar 2012, 20:10
I hope Marten doesn't admit he met Hanners in the bathroom (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=515).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 21 Mar 2012, 20:12

I totally get this and I want to Hanners in a relationship too, but that doesn't mean it has to be a relationship with Marten or a heterosexual relationship either. Maybe the best option for her is a Hetero-Asexual relationship. Romance without the physical and sex part. That important part is that no matter what Jeph writes for Hanners is that it must be organic (aka sounds right in his mind for his characters) and hopefully more people will accept that attitude that you said:

"So, I want her to be happy"

Clearly, she is just human and wants to have the same experiences that other people enjoy.


Oh, I know. I totally agree. I am just in full on agreement mode today about Hanners. I just think Marten would be the most understanding. But, you know, I kinda really REALLY liked the Hanners-Sven arc. The one you posted, 1768, the panel where they just look at each other always makes me kinda sad.


I'd like to see Hanners be happy and be able to enjoy a romantic relationship as well. But I don't think she can do that without getting over her issues with touch and germs and what not. Sex is kinda icky and messy (if you're doing it right  :wink: ) and she'll need to be able to deal with that, since few guys will want to be in an ongoing romantic relationship with a girl they can't even kiss, never mind have sex with. Even Marten would only be able to stand it for so long, before some other girl who IS able to give him what Hanners can't tempts him away-guy is only human and has his needs too. Hanners may be better off anyway-considering how often romantic relationships go bad and hearts get broken in the process, it may be best that she really can't be in one.

Marten and Hannelore work best as friends, IMO. Now if in the future Hanners gets her OCD under control enough to be able to fully enjoy a romantic and sexual realtionship, and Marten's available at that time, then it'll be all good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 21 Mar 2012, 21:26
I 'd speculate that Jeph wants to launch Hanners toward normality as much as his readers want her to be launched, and I think it's happening before our eyes, if slowly. It doesn't matter to me whom she connects with, as long as it's someone suited for her. To be honest, I'm still sad that Marten and Faye couldn't hook up, although it would have sent the story careening in a different direction. It sounds almost like church to say it, but it's all in the hands of the creator, our "prayers" notwithstanding.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 21 Mar 2012, 22:01
Oh dear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Skewbrow on 21 Mar 2012, 22:47
I hope Marten doesn't say to Hannerdad "All I did was poke her!".

I'm mildly worried that when the camera returns to the B-day party, a still enraged HannerDad blurts out something like. "You're not a worthy mate for my Princess. See this genetic map. In your chromosome #18. There is this gene that makes you lack ambition..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Mar 2012, 22:59
We guys are used to looking at the thing first.  Women tend to back in...   :angel:


Seriously, my wife wrote (in bright red nail polish) "PUT ME DOWN" on the underside of the seat in our first apartment! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 21 Mar 2012, 23:00
Does this really happen to people?

Yes...

I'll say no more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 21 Mar 2012, 23:04
Definitely a Ray Romano moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 21 Mar 2012, 23:07
In your chromosome #18. There is this gene that makes you lack ambition..."

He'd be lucky!  Chromosome 18 abnormality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_syndrome) is much worse than that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 21 Mar 2012, 23:17
WARNING
This toilet is equipped with a two position seat
Please ensure seat is in correct position for your intended use before using.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Near Lurker on 21 Mar 2012, 23:20
It's a good thing she isn't seeing me - I cannot stand it when the lid's up, so that could have been awkward.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Skewbrow on 21 Mar 2012, 23:20
In your chromosome #18. There is this gene that makes you lack ambition..."

He'd be lucky!  Chromosome 18 abnormality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_syndrome) is much worse than that.

I should have known better than to pick a random number between 1 and 23  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 21 Mar 2012, 23:28
You should close the lid on the toilet whether you live with a woman or not.  Keeps any mist that might be generated in the toilet bowl.

Faye looks very butch in this strip.  Of course thinking that may have something to do with having just read a couple of articles about lesbian separatists during the '70s/
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 21 Mar 2012, 23:32
WARNING
This toilet is equipped with a two position seat
Please ensure seat is in correct position for your intended use before using.
Soon to be legislated onto a bathroom wall near you.

I can't sympathize with Faye on this one. Being upset that she fell in? Okay. Being upset with Angus that she fell in? Nope. It is only ones own responsibility to make sure of what one is sitting on, not anyone else's.

Also, in my experience, even mildly bad vision results in glasses wearing habits that consist of waking up and putting them on, then not taking them off until directly before getting into bed, with only events like showering intervening. I imagine a person with vision as bad as hers would result in habits just as stringent. Why is she fine with looking at a blurry blob approximately the shape of the person she loves?

You should close the lid on the toilet whether you live with a woman or not.  Keeps any mist that might be generated in the toilet bowl.
EDIT: removed for inability to find a source.

Also, it wouldn't matter anyway in the case of urine, because urine is sterile.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 21 Mar 2012, 23:34
Ow, ow, ow, I think I got whiplash coming out of orbit that fast.

My response to my wife the only time this came up was "You don't rely on my memory for anything else. Why should this be any different? Look before you stick your ass somewhere."

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 21 Mar 2012, 23:40
WARNING
This toilet is equipped with a two position seat
Please ensure seat is in correct position for your intended use before using.

Men should print this out and put it up in their bathrooms, especially if they share them with women.

My response to being yelled at for leaving the seat up (it happens to most guys living with women at some point) has always been something along the lines of "What, your arm is broken so you can't put the seat down? If so, where's the cast?" After a few go-rounds she stopped fussing at me about it and just learned to look before she sat.

Might not work with someone with a temper and tendency to violence like Faye though...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Mar 2012, 23:47
I don't always put on my glasses for a middle-of-the-night bathroom trip.

Urine is only sterile if there's no kidney disease and no urinary tract infection, and if you don't count viruses, and if it's fresh. In a short time it turns into a culture medium.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Skewbrow on 21 Mar 2012, 23:56
Faye looks very butch in this strip.  Of course thinking that may have something to do with having just read a couple of articles about lesbian separatists during the '70s/

I think it is just Faye's  apple-cinnamon hair product. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2063)
Or did you refer to something other than her looks?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: cesariojpn on 22 Mar 2012, 00:04
Someone is sleeping on the couch tonight, huh?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: slydon on 22 Mar 2012, 00:10
Too soon!
(http://kushsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/sp-16.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Torlek on 22 Mar 2012, 00:17
My response to my wife the only time this came up was "You don't rely on my memory for anything else. Why should this be any different? Look before you stick your ass somewhere."
You brave, brave idiot. How many nights were you on the couch for that?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Soulsynger on 22 Mar 2012, 00:24
When did those two get married, btw.? Have we been in space for so long?  :psyduck:


My response to my wife the only time this came up was "You don't rely on my memory for anything else. Why should this be any different? Look before you stick your ass somewhere."
This is genius. Any time you are being confronted, just claim unreliability. Ye goats da stoff prezzedents're maed oaff.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 22 Mar 2012, 00:29
I don't always put on my glasses for a middle-of-the-night bathroom trip.

Urine is only sterile if there's no kidney disease and no urinary tract infection, and if you don't count viruses, and if it's fresh. In a short time it turns into a culture medium.
This isn't the middle of the night. Unless Angus is enough of a jerk to read with the room fully lit (actually, why is the room so well lit?) while she was trying to sleep (or he's in Marten's room for some reason), both of them are only ready for bed. Why would she have taken them off- or, if she had already climbed into bed and was reading next to him or something, why would she not put back on the glasses she took off a few minutes before?

Broadly, for general, non nitpicky, non writing half-a-dozen-caveats-in-case-someone's-feeling-contrary purposes, urine is sterile.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 22 Mar 2012, 00:45
But it's still somewhat icky.

And urine's not the only thing that goes in a toilet.
The other stuff is decidedly NOT sterile.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: BigUgly73 on 22 Mar 2012, 00:46
1. My toilet shares the room with my toothbrush.  I put the seat and lid down every time.  I read an article in Nick Magazine as a kid that talked about mist water particles shooting into the air while flushing the toilet and ever since the lid has stayed down. 

2.  I do not understand nor have sympathy for a creature that dives butt first at something without first making sure it's not going to end badly. 

3.  Seriously? Faye's hips don't naturally prevent that sort of thing?  We've spent 8 years discussing how Faye's defining physical characteristic is her curves, and then BOOM she falls into a toilet?  Oh and I checked, the first time we get the comic verbally detailing her curviness, it is in fact about her hips being specifically designed to prevent falling into a toilet. (http://questionablecontent.net/comics/84.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: cesariojpn on 22 Mar 2012, 00:58
3.  Seriously? Faye's hips don't naturally prevent that sort of thing?  We've spent 8 years discussing how Faye's defining physical characteristic is her curves, and then BOOM she falls into a toilet?  Oh and I checked, the first time we get the comic verbally detailing her curviness, it is in fact about her hips being specifically designed to prevent falling into a toilet. (http://questionablecontent.net/comics/84.png)

Building might be old, and have toilets that aren't those newfangled low-flush toilets that can't flush enough frickin' water into the bowl to swoosh your damn crapload of 10 McChicken Sandwiches and Supersize Fries and TP down the hole so it get's jammed and you need to plunger the damn thing and then reflush it a couple more times, thereby negating the water savings that the damn toilet was intended to do in the first place!! And disinfect the plunger!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: dreed on 22 Mar 2012, 01:10
1. My toilet shares the room with my toothbrush.  I put the seat and lid down every time.  I read an article in Nick Magazine as a kid that talked about mist water particles shooting into the air while flushing the toilet and ever since the lid has stayed down. 
the shit particles are everywhere in the air.  mist or no mist you are inhaling them anyway.
not that it is not good for you.  quite opposite.  without that we would die in our forties.

germs, dirts, viruses are good for us.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Mar 2012, 01:16
The bacteria in our gut are an important part of the way it works - a fact that is used in the marketing of bio-yogurts in particular.  This is also why antibiotics often cause digestive problems.

The lack of exposure of children to normal dirt through the modern fetish for cleanliness is a major cause of allergies and other diseases of immunity, because their immune systems are denied the triggers that cause them to develop properly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 22 Mar 2012, 01:36
If I remember correctly, Faye really really can't see without her glasses (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=266).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Akima on 22 Mar 2012, 01:40
The obvious answer to all these toilet-seat shenanigans is to adopt the Asian squat toilet. No lid, no seat, no worries! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjfZEGLyosk) Just equal falling-in opportunities, and and general hilarity from people who didn't grow up with them.

And do Americans seriously obsess about germ-laden mists rising from their toilets? Your immune-systems will atrophy and you'll all be wiped out by an infectious disease spread by unsanitized telephones.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 22 Mar 2012, 02:00
If I remember correctly, Faye really really can't see without her glasses (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=266).
Yes, which is why it's so weird that she'd go anywhere without them.

The obvious answer to all these toilet-seat shenanigans is to adopt the Asian squat toilet. No lid, no seat, no worries! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjfZEGLyosk) Just equal falling-in opportunities, and and general hilarity from people who didn't grow up with them.

And do Americans seriously obsess about germ-laden mists rising from their toilets? Your immune-systems will atrophy and you'll all be wiped out by an infectious disease spread by unsanitized telephones.
Which is also much better mechanically speaking, as it puts the important bits in a straight line. Westerners have far more problems with defecating, and due to natural spreading of the cheeks they result in far less residue and far fewer cling-ons circling your anus.

We don't actually obsess, we just like to sound like we do, and some people fail to get it and actually obsess. Like Hannelore.


The main source for the information most of us are vaguely recollecting is a microbiologist by the name of Charles Gerba, who about a dozen years ago published some research about common bacterial hotspots and places perceived as such. It was jumped on by a plethora of journalists and writers for everything from kids magazines to humorists to Important News Organizations, all of whom largely missed the point that it wasn't a bad thing in favor of "fecal matter is aeresolized and spread throughout the bath room!" or "the kitchen sponge is the dirtiest place in the house!"

 EDIT: I swear I wrote that before looking at the Wikipedia article, but to diversify I'll add that toilet seats are quite clean and so are public bathroom handles, according to his research.

He named his son after E. coli.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 22 Mar 2012, 02:06
The obvious answer to all these toilet-seat shenanigans is to adopt the Asian squat toilet. No lid, no seat, no worries! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjfZEGLyosk) Just equal falling-in opportunities, and and general hilarity from people who didn't grow up with them.

 :-o :-o :laugh: Oh HELL to the NO!!!! No way would I even TRY to squat over what's essentially a big hole that's flush to the floor, that's just ASKING to fall in!  :laugh:

I'd have to be in danger of crapping on myself to even give serious consideration to using one of those. At least urinating is simple-for a guy anyway, he can stand up either way, the urine's just got farther to fall.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Mar 2012, 02:08
The bigger the fall, the greater the spray raised as it splashes!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheBiscuit on 22 Mar 2012, 02:17
Seriously? Faye's hips don't naturally prevent that sort of thing?  We've spent 8 years discussing how Faye's defining physical characteristic is her curves, and then BOOM she falls into a toilet?
This was my first reaction. As soon as I read the strip I instantly said to myself "Isn't her butt big enough to prevent that?"

I guess if you read the newspost under the comic, Jeph's wife doesn't have as much junk in the trunk and he didn't want to waste the joke. Who else would it work for?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 22 Mar 2012, 02:24
The bigger the fall, the greater the spray raised as it splashes!

Bleargh, forgot about that part. Guess you gotta squat either way, and hope you've got good balance-and aim :psyduck:

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Sorflakne on 22 Mar 2012, 02:57
Aaahahahahahaha!  Great comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: no one special on 22 Mar 2012, 03:33
If I remember correctly, Faye really really can't see without her glasses (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=266).

She's probably not THAT blind. 

I've been wearing glasses since I was 18 months old, the prescription on my glasses are around -11. My eyes are baaaaaaad - but if i don't have my glasses on, I can still tell whether the toilet seat is up or down.  She probably just didn't think to look - that's on her. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 22 Mar 2012, 04:32
For some reason media in my life has been filled with male vs. female toilet use lately.

Does this really happen to people? I always thought it WAS something sitcoms made up just to take "the war of the sexes" to its silliest extremes? And why have I never heard about a guy falling in when he tries to poop?

This is all way too confusing for me  :psyduck:

i've heard of it happening to women with occasional stories about getting stuck and needing help, but only second or third hand.

as to guys, it's probably because we are used to checking to make sure it's in the proper configuration before use.




Look before you stick your ass somewhere."

truly, these are words to live by.




The obvious answer to all these toilet-seat shenanigans is to adopt the Asian squat toilet. No lid, no seat, no worries! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjfZEGLyosk) Just equal falling-in opportunities, and and general hilarity from people who didn't grow up with them.

problem there is that an increased range correlates with a decreased accuracy.

also, the 'did you know' thing from the end of the video reminds me of a story my dad told me about visiting a crocodile farm in thailand. apparently it wasn't pigs under the thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: techkid on 22 Mar 2012, 04:38
And do Americans seriously obsess about germ-laden mists rising from their toilets? Your immune-systems will atrophy and you'll all be wiped out by an infectious disease spread by unsanitized telephones.

Hell, not just Americans. Just about every part of the modern world is germophobic to some extent. Hospitals here in Australia are sanitized aggressively, and now there are so-called superbugs that are immune to antibiotics. My dad knew of a boy whose mum was something of a gunslinger with the soap bottle. If even the tiniest speck got on him - BAM cleaned and scrubbed. Started getting infections from unknown sources, and his mother didn't know what to do. Took him to the doctor, told her story, but the doctor noticed her habits and said basically that it was killing him. Don't know the end result of the story (or even its legitimacy), but it does have some plausibility when you have an idea of how your immune system works.

That being said, living in conditions that would offend a garbage dump would be just as bad if not worse. Maintaining some basic standards of hygiene without going all Hanners over it is enough.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 22 Mar 2012, 04:51
Ow, ow, ow, I think I got whiplash coming out of orbit that fast.

My response to my wife the only time this came up was "You don't rely on my memory for anything else. Why should this be any different? Look before you stick your ass somewhere."

Tried that once, when I regained conciousness...

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Technoir on 22 Mar 2012, 05:42
I wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.
futurama strikes again
Huh? That's an original series Star Trek reference.

Confirmed.

<Nevermind. Someone beat me to it...>
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: lepetitfromage on 22 Mar 2012, 06:15
Am I the only one here who closes the toilet lid because A) It looks nicer and B) I'm sick of things falling into it*?




*By this I mean objects, not asses. I've only done that once and had a good laugh about it. :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: vettechinohio on 22 Mar 2012, 06:20
Aww, poor Faye.

This reminds me of a particular night when I didn't have my glasses on either (-9 in both eyes) and needed to pee after taking out my contacts. My glasses were not kept in the bathroom, but I stored my contacts there since I had to wash my hands before removing them anyway, which is also a possibility as to why Faye didn't have hers on (many of my friends do the same). Anyway, my boyfriend had unknowingly made the toilet back up, and the water was just high enough in the bowl that my butt made full contact with it when I sat down. It was mid winter in Ohio, and our bathroom is always frigid, but it took me a few seconds of sleepily thinking "Why is there such a cold draft on my butt?" before I realized what the situation was. Needless to say I less than pleased.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Black Sword on 22 Mar 2012, 06:31
I guess Jeph wanted *puts sunglasses on* to bring us down to earth.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 22 Mar 2012, 07:02
Or could it be our old friend, Butts Disease?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Throg on 22 Mar 2012, 07:45
Oh my, oh my. This is a case where the comic was mildly amusing and the forums are f'in hilarious. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Mar 2012, 08:21
So how do we wrap this all up?

Drink Whiskey, Hold Hands, Go Home.    6 (6.9%)
There's GOTTA be a Big Reveal in here SOMEWHERE!    21 (24.1%) (Well, there kinda was...)
Marbear and Francis, sittin' in a tree...    11 (12.6%)
Marten and Hakase, sittin' in the bunks...    2 (2.3%)
Hannelore exceeds her Cuteness Quotient for this Story Arc!    20 (23%) (Too late...)
Big joke revealed - there wasn't anything in the whiskey bottle.    1 (1.1%)
They're all back on earth on Monday. No one says a WORD about what happened.    13 (14.9%)
More Ghostbusters Jokes!    0 (0%)
MORE WAFFLES!    0 (0%)
More Spathe Ham!    3 (3.4%)
We're just along for the ride (kicking and screaming and yelling, "Are we THERE yet?" the whole trip)    10 (11.5%)

Total Members Voted: 87
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Mar 2012, 08:35
Am I the only one here who closes the toilet lid because A) It looks nicer and B) I'm sick of things falling into it*?

*By this I mean objects, not asses. I've only done that once and had a good laugh about it. :-P

A. No you're not, and
B. No, sadly, you're not (and also for what you meant. I've missed the sink when trying to toss my toothbrush from the shower.).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 22 Mar 2012, 08:48
For the poll you forgot "Puking during makeouts"

You're all welcome for the mental image.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Mar 2012, 08:53
I guess Jeph wanted *puts sunglasses on* to bring us down to earth.
Affirmative (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 22 Mar 2012, 09:53
Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. I remember Aaahh! Real Monsters. And now I'm too terrified to do ANYTHING. That show scared the living daylights outta me. Still does, its soooo creepy.

I check if its the middle of the night. Not because of paranoia, but because one night I got up without my glasses on but they were in my hand and I was lazy. And I saw something in the corner while I was seated and it was A GIANT FRIGGING SPIDER when I put my glasses on. The movement must have startled it, I don't know, but it started running towards me. So. I put my glasses on now and check everything.

Luckily, my brothers put the seat down because they saw my dad get yelled at enough when we were kids about that.

Also: Poor Faye :( Jeph is just being super cruel to his characters.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 22 Mar 2012, 10:23
In 45 or so years in two marriages, excluding a couple of years squatting in India, I learned to put the seat down as a matter of fairness and good order, visual and marital.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Mar 2012, 10:24
She's probably not THAT blind. 

Faye's history of trying to go to the bathroom without glasses (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=68)

Since we're doing toilet humor, I saw a sign in a hardware store proudly advertising that a new line of toilet could flush thirty golf balls. My reaction was that a new toilet was an inferior solution to a change of diet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Mar 2012, 10:26
I leave the seat how it was when I went into the bathroom.  If the seat was already up, I'm not going to put it down afterwards.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mad Cat on 22 Mar 2012, 10:51
Thinking about making this a new avatar on here.

(http://mama.indstate.edu/users/garrett/avatars/faye_no_glasses_do_i_look_like_i_give_a_shit_avatar.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 22 Mar 2012, 11:10
Shoulda saved it for the Caption Game  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 22 Mar 2012, 11:44
given that she's been living with a dude for some time now, i'd think faye would be in the habit of checking before she sat down.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Mar 2012, 12:13
Given that the dude lives with at least one lady, I'd think he was inthe habit of leaving it down by now. 

Which he is. 


Mostly.  We all have lapses...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Mar 2012, 12:27
Isn't it easier to just learn to aim in the smaller hole?  You don't have to put the seat down if you never lift it up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Overkillengine on 22 Mar 2012, 12:30
WARNING
This toilet is equipped with a two position seat
Please ensure seat is in correct position for your intended use before using.

I'd like to progressively iterate the motion to have this engraved on all toilets.

I have glasses, and I take the extra split second to don mine for o'dark thirty calls of the wild, and still have to check to make sure the apparatus is properly positioned for use....why should anyone else get a pass on that?  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Mar 2012, 12:33
Isn't it easier to just learn to aim in the smaller hole?  You don't have to put the seat down if you never lift it up.

One word: Splatter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Mar 2012, 12:34
Your toilet bowl must be unreasonably full with water, because that shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Overkillengine on 22 Mar 2012, 12:39
A) Some guys for some reason can't aim.

B) Some tend towards spray than stream for various reasons.

And having to wipe urine off the seat before use is annoying for just about anyone. Sure, you could hope that it is still sterile and just sit in it...yuck.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 22 Mar 2012, 12:59
Given that the dude lives with at least one lady, I'd think he was inthe habit of leaving it down by now. 

Which he is. 


Mostly.  We all have lapses...

I have a feeling putting the seat down is something ingrained in Marten's behavior. Think about his mother and what she might've done the first time he left it up by mistake. Yeah...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 22 Mar 2012, 13:28
1. My toilet shares the room with my toothbrush.  I put the seat and lid down every time.  I read an article in Nick Magazine as a kid that talked about mist water particles shooting into the air while flushing the toilet and ever since the lid has stayed down. 
If you can smell it, IT IS IN YOUR NOSE.

Same thing applies to your toothbrush.

On topic: Never say these things to Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TRVA123 on 22 Mar 2012, 13:33
Isn't the convention to leave the seat in the position you found it? If they're at Faye's apartment then Angus should put the seat back down out of politeness, but at Angus's apartment Faye should put the seat back up when she is finished.

Same with the lid, if the house you're at keeps it down, then put it down. Otherwise leave it up.

Faye and Angus shouldn't have this argument until they move in together. *uppity sniff*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 22 Mar 2012, 13:34
My response to my wife the only time this came up was "You don't rely on my memory for anything else. Why should this be any different? Look before you stick your ass somewhere."
You brave, brave idiot. How many nights were you on the couch for that?
Um, zero. I don't accept passive aggressive behavior from anyone.

My response to my wife the only time this came up was "You don't rely on my memory for anything else. Why should this be any different? Look before you stick your ass somewhere."
Tried that once, when I regained conciousness...
If your wife actually knocked you out, you should leave her. I know you were joking but battering should never be considered funny. Not even when Faye does it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 22 Mar 2012, 13:35
Speaking of Faye, has she always had as much overbite as displayed in panel 5?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Mar 2012, 13:38
I don't remember her having one period, but then again, she might have never been shown in profile while talking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 22 Mar 2012, 13:43
I don't remember her having one period, but then again, she might have never been shown in profile while talking.
I can find plenty of examples of that. Just none with that overbite.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: LTK on 22 Mar 2012, 13:44
Thinking about making this a new avatar on here.

"Do I LOOK like I give a SHIT?"
To be honest, yes. If you get angry about something, you definitely give at least one shit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 22 Mar 2012, 14:33
Thinking about making this a new avatar on here.

"Do I LOOK like I give a SHIT?"
To be honest, yes. If you get angry about something, you definitely give at least one shit.
I thought the problem was that she tried to give a shit and fell in.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Armadillo on 22 Mar 2012, 14:48
Count me as a "lid down" kind of fella.  That way, EVERYBODY has skin in the "make sure the potty is correctly configured" game.

As to this particular comic:

1. Faye is (knowingly!) blind as Stevie Wonder without her glasses, yet she walks around without them on.
2. She apparently backed in to the bathroom and launched herself ass-first at whatever she felt like launching herself at without making sure everything was ship-shape.
3. She called her boyfriend an "asshole" because SHE did something stupid.

Am I missing something here?  LOOK AT THE FREAKIN' TOILET BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, LADIES!!!  Do you change lanes without looking or take off running with your eyes closed?  Why is the bathroom so freakin' different than LIFE?!?

*rant done, gotta poop*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Akima on 22 Mar 2012, 15:24
Am I the only one here who closes the toilet lid because A) It looks nicer and B) I'm sick of things falling into it*?
No. Closing the lid also protects your expensive porcelain from clumsy plumbers who drop hammers. If you travel on trains in China (not the flashy new high-speed ones) they have stainless-steel squatters (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EhAIprlmvVQ/TUU4GShKYKI/AAAAAAAAAhI/UnpjUODcnm0/s1600/china-train-toilet.jpg) which are sometimes heavily dented. I always wonder what happened. Possibly one of these people who poops golf-balls used it?

And I ALWAYS checked before I sat down. Not because I was afraid of falling in, but because I was afraid of spiders (stupid Discovery Channel...).
Famously, in Australia, poisonous spiders hide under the toilet seat...  You're welcome! :evil:

While we're on the subject of urban legends, toilets in Australia don't swirl the "other way round" from the Northern Hemisphere, because 1) coriolis force is too weak, and more importantly 2) Australian toilets are "washdown" style and don't swirl at all (video bragging about superior Aussie toilet technology (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xQxDYD0D5E) :psyduck:).

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 22 Mar 2012, 15:27
This is obviously the toilet for people who poop baseballs. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 22 Mar 2012, 15:51

Am I missing something here?  LOOK AT THE FREAKIN' TOILET BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, LADIES!!!  Do you change lanes without looking or take off running with your eyes closed?  Why is the bathroom so freakin' different than LIFE?!?

*rant done, gotta poop*

Actually, I take offense to this. I do switch lanes without looking and there is an annual running-with-your-eyes-closed every year, similar to the running of the bulls, in my household.

That is sarcasm, of course. Its actually bi-annual.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Welu on 22 Mar 2012, 16:04
Jumping into the thread so excuse me if someone else made this point but at first I thought this strip came about because Jeph watched a recent South Park episode.

I've always thought of the seat up/down default as down if there's a woman in the house simply because of the odds. Women sit for both situations and blokes (usually) sit for one situation and stand for another. That's a three in four chance the seat will need to be down.

~~
Speaking of Faye, has she always had as much overbite as displayed in panel 5?

It doesn't seem as extreme in this comic. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1744)
~~


1. Faye is (knowingly!) blind as Stevie Wonder without her glasses, yet she walks around without them on.

From their attire I'm guessing they're about to go to bed or in bed. She probably already took them off and just needed to go. I'm very blind without my glasses but if I wake up in the middle of the night and am groggy, or even not groggy but really need to get up, I just don't think to put my glasses on most of the time.

~~

Edited three times and I forgot to say this: I really like Faye's expression in the last panel. I have that expression and thought a lot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Mar 2012, 16:13
If I go to pee at night (due to boredom)* I sit, because it's too dark to see my aim from standing - turning on the lights would hurt my eyes and wake my wife, neither a good thing.  So seat down as a habit suits me too; but I also have the habit of feeling for the seat with my hands before committing my weight to it.


* You have about a 2% chance that my avatar will match that remark.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TinPenguin on 22 Mar 2012, 16:32
When I enter a lavatory, I put the toilet seat in the position I need it. When I exit, I leave the toilet seat however I finished with it. I expect my fellow human beings to have the same basic abilities.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 22 Mar 2012, 16:34
If I go to pee at night (due to boredom)* I sit, because it's too dark to see my aim from standing - turning on the lights would hurt my eyes and wake my wife, neither a good thing.  So seat down as a habit suits me too; but I also have the habit of feeling for the seat with my hands before committing my weight to it.


* You have about a 2% chance that my avatar will match that remark.
Ditto here, minus anyone else in the house to wake. I wake up with night vision, get to the toilet and back to bed with night vision intact. If I turn on the light in the bathroom, say, to take a pill, I crash into things on the way back to bed. And I often sit to pee anyway. Comfortable, better aim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: celticgeek on 22 Mar 2012, 17:07
That's the way I get to and from the bathroom at night - my night vision gets me there and back, and nobody else has to be awake. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: kajiura fan on 22 Mar 2012, 18:06
I always thought it WAS something sitcoms made up just to take "the war of the sexes" to its silliest extremes?
I was thinking the same thing when I read today's comic.

It annoys me when I hear about a woman getting bent out of shape over the toilet seat being left up. >.< I don't get it! And I'm a woman! Why wouldn't you look before you sit? And upon noticing the seat is up, how much time and energy does it take to put it down? Is it really that significant? (Though, I suppose it is if one really REALLY has to go.)

I love Faye, I really do, but I want to smack her right now!  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 22 Mar 2012, 18:19
Y'all really think it's about the crapper lid being up or down?

No no no no no.

It's about power. Control.

Power and control.

Slam the lid on her crap, Angus!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: RyanW1019 on 22 Mar 2012, 18:47
Faye wasn't really that mad at him, she was just embarrassed and lashed out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Omega Entity on 22 Mar 2012, 18:48
I keep the whole thing lidded, mainly because the cats will drink out of it and then unerringly stick their wet paws on my face in the morning.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 22 Mar 2012, 19:07
Cats don't use their paws to drink.

The little stinker is just fuckin' with you.

Just Sayin'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 22 Mar 2012, 19:30
I think thats completely dependent on the cat. Like, my cats don't use their paws. Because they're prissy. But, the woman my best friend house-dog-and cat sits for's cat DOES use his paws. No matter what. I can't tell you why, and it doesn't look effective. I think its just stupid.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Omega Entity on 22 Mar 2012, 19:34
Cats don't use their paws to drink.

The little stinker is just fuckin' with you.

Just Sayin'

I've watched my cat dip her paws in the water dish and lick them mostly dry. But no, they don't use their paws to drink from the toilet. They brace their front paws along the inside of the bowl and their back ones on the seat so they can reach the toilet water to drink it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: kiwi_goalie on 22 Mar 2012, 19:39
Well are they at Angus' place or at Faye's? Because if it's Faye's place and it's just been her there for a while she might be expecting the seat to be down (since Marten's away and she doesn't live with any other guys). I know I've made that mistake before - habit is hard to break!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: qdanielgrant on 22 Mar 2012, 20:41

there is an annual running-with-your-eyes-closed every year, similar to the running of the bulls, in my household.

That is sarcasm, of course. Its actually bi-annual.

Olé Running of the Blind! Sounds fun.

Also, clearly Jeph is a MASTER of psychological development and while Faye is projecting her own anxieties of failure onto Angus while simultenously letting her own barries down due to her lack of glasses (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=272) while in his presence.  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 22 Mar 2012, 21:22
You probably meant that sarcastically but I actually do get the feeling that Faye is subconsciously trying to find faults with Angus to later use against him and/or later use as an excuse to dump him.

Or maybe she's just being a Grumpy Gus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Mar 2012, 22:07
Please, everyone - remember, Faye grew up in an all-women household (after her father departed), wherein the seat was always  down.  And I'm sure that, if Marten's mother hadn't thoroughly trained him in toilet ettiquette, Faye did.  Early on. 

She didn't look.  She's used to not having to.  Right or wrong, it was an embarrassment.  And she reacted... as Faye often reacts. 



It's still funny, dammit.  Especially the last panel, where Angus "saves the day". 


Edit: Dammit, my 'n' key keeps sticking...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mad Cat on 22 Mar 2012, 22:08
Odd. Exact same file, if I linked it as a URL to the image, the forum boards mangled it, it was illegible and forced to be square, making Faye look, well, like no woman wants to look. But by uploading it from my hard drive, it was scaled just fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Mar 2012, 23:49
Faye's relationship hangups won't have gone away entirely. There's probably still a corner of her mind that can't stand the idea of being close to someone and that is working on ways to sabotage the relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: squab on 23 Mar 2012, 00:10
The bigger the fall, the greater the spray raised as it splashes!

Bleargh, forgot about that part. Guess you gotta squat either way, and hope you've got good balance-and aim :psyduck:

Or, you know, find a tree.

As for toilets... I'm a guy, but my parents divorced when I was really young and I think I was potty trained mostly by my mother. I actually fell in the toilet when I was like 8 when my cousins were visiting...

Excuse me while I go do something manly now so I feel better.

For the poll you forgot "Puking during makeouts"

You're all welcome for the mental image.
Two girls one cup style?
I've never actually seen that and I never want to.

Count me as a "lid down" kind of fella.  That way, EVERYBODY has skin in the "make sure the potty is correctly configured" game.

As to this particular comic:

1. Faye is (knowingly!) blind as Stevie Wonder without her glasses, yet she walks around without them on.
2. She apparently backed in to the bathroom and launched herself ass-first at whatever she felt like launching herself at without making sure everything was ship-shape.
3. She called her boyfriend an "asshole" because SHE did something stupid.

Am I missing something here?  LOOK AT THE FREAKIN' TOILET BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, LADIES!!!  Do you change lanes without looking or take off running with your eyes closed?  Why is the bathroom so freakin' different than LIFE?!?

*rant done, gotta poop*

I find these rants funny, because it's just as hard for the ladies to check and put the seat down when the go to the washroom as it is for men to simply put it down when they're done.

On the other hand, if you don't check the toilet before you sit down it's just a matter of time before you fall in. So peoples should always look.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Soulsynger on 23 Mar 2012, 00:24
_____________________________________

The QC-Forums, rated PG-13 for potty-talk.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 23 Mar 2012, 00:29
You could say that this topic is in the can.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Boomslang on 23 Mar 2012, 01:23
I actually would like to be the first person to congratulate Angus for his response - He didn't give way before Faye's anger, which would have been easy enough to do, he didn't get angry himself and lash out, and he ended the spat with a hug and a genuine apology and statement of concern.

I know, I know, that's just him being a decent human being, but it's so easy to handle this sort of thing the wrong way that I can't help but give him props. Certainly an improvement over how Sven would have handled the same situation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Mar 2012, 01:34
Odd. Exact same file, if I linked it as a URL to the image, the forum boards mangled it, it was illegible and forced to be square, making Faye look, well, like no woman wants to look. But by uploading it from my hard drive, it was scaled just fine.

Whether the aspect ratio is preserved depends on whether the forum or the browser does the actual reduction.  I can do nothing about that - sorry*.  It's probably better to make your own edit of the image to fit within the 100x100 box.  I do get a little annoyed when people link 500kB images as avatars, as has happened (the largest avatar file I've seen was 4.5MB), as they get downloaded full size and then reduced by the browser - and they really do slow browsing down for everyone.

*[EDIT] I may be able to change this, in fact - I'll investigate further.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Mar 2012, 02:31
All together, now: Awww!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Fen on 23 Mar 2012, 02:34
Erm, I've had the toilet seat argument. Won it via various shrieks in the middle of the night when I fell in. It's cold, you know =(.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 23 Mar 2012, 02:37
This was a triumph
I'm making a note here: huge success.
It's hard to overstate my satisfaction...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Akima on 23 Mar 2012, 02:56
I'm beginning to think Hanners' name is really spelled Hannelawww. And doesn't she look elegant in that LBD?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: akronnick on 23 Mar 2012, 03:04
Every woman looks elegant in an LBD.

But yes, she does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: WAYF on 23 Mar 2012, 03:22
Quote from: Hannelore
Someday, everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do.

Wow. She totally nailed it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pendrake on 23 Mar 2012, 03:26
For comic #2150...

1. Poor Marigold, but Jeph did say it probably would end in tears.  Tears and vomit, apparrently.

2. Panel #6 makes me wonder...  Is Hannelore saying such things to Marigold simply for Marigold...?  Or perhaps also projecting (consciously or subconsciously) for herself as well?  (or perhaps I am projecting my own long-work & late-hour fatigue :psyduck: )

3. Hopefully this is not the end of Francis York & Marigold Farmer.

4. It looks like we are about done with QC in Space, just a denouement phase and then return-trip to Earth.  Which means "QC in Space, Week Ten(!?!)."  Not that I am complaining of course, I have greatly enjoyed this story-arc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 23 Mar 2012, 03:31
somehow this strikes me as the saddest qc strip in recent memory.




I find these rants funny, because it's just as hard for the ladies to check and put the seat down when the go to the washroom as it is for men to simply put it down when they're done.

On the other hand, if you don't check the toilet before you sit down it's just a matter of time before you fall in. So peoples should always look.

see, it's not about the amount of effort involved, people just don't like getting blamed for other people's carelessness. especially for something as basic as a failure to looking where you plan to put your ass before you put it there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheBiscuit on 23 Mar 2012, 03:40
Oh, Marigold.  :(

He's waiting outside. He still wants to talk to you. He was a little taken aback but he hasn't given up yet.

You apparently have.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Deadlywonky on 23 Mar 2012, 03:56
Having been away most of the week I'm amazed that this collection of nerds, otherwise known as a 'forum', missed Akima's Hitchhikers quip yesterday. :-o Where are your towels?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: techkid on 23 Mar 2012, 04:08
Oh, Marigold.  :(

He's waiting outside. He still wants to talk to you. He was a little taken aback but he hasn't given up yet.

You apparently have.

Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: westrim on 23 Mar 2012, 04:10
Is it a buttercream cake? I love buttercream.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 23 Mar 2012, 04:21
Hannelore's attempts to cheer up Marigold were very d'awww-worthy, but I think it'll be a long while before Marigold tries makeouts with anyone again. Y'know this is a big part of the reason they get along so well right? They each have issues that prevent them from having the intimate romantic relationships they want. Their issues make them both social misfits, Mari a bit more than Hanners IMO.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Border Reiver on 23 Mar 2012, 04:26
I'm beginning to think Hanners' name is really spelled Hannelawww. And doesn't she look elegant in that LBD?

Truth
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Mar 2012, 04:41
Having been away most of the week I'm amazed that this collection of nerds, otherwise known as a 'forum', missed Akima's Hitchhikers quip yesterday. :-o Where are your towels?!

Who says we missed it?  We're not all hairdressers!

A little additional background: is this true? (http://tlb.org/telsan.html) (A: No, obviously not!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Milesb on 23 Mar 2012, 04:49
I thought Hanner's "Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it'll be so wonderful you won't know what to do." was a nice thing to say, but I also think her saying it was probably at least slightly inspired by the fact that the quote effectively covers Hanner's experiences as well... Meeting Marten (and through that, the rest of the QC cast) has been really good for Hanners, and she's had moments where she's clearly been swamped by it - but she's persevered.

I think that seems to be the difference between Marigold and Hannelore - Marigold does give up a bit easily and she feels sorry for herself more readily than Hanners seems to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Mar 2012, 05:54
I want to make some sort of joke that we discover Francis' middle name is Eli, and when Hannelore gets Marigold to come out to get cake, she finds out that it was just a ruse to come out to see Francis, who offers her ice cream, not cake.

...Thing is, I can't get the joke to the "Cake is Eli" punchline.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: lepetitfromage on 23 Mar 2012, 05:59
I keep the whole thing lidded, mainly because the cats will drink out of it and then unerringly stick their wet paws on my face in the morning.
D'oh! Cat....another reason I keep the lid down. We use those cleaner tabs that make your toilet water blue and the last thing I want is a cat poisoned by my toilet.

Cats don't use their paws to drink.

The little stinker is just fuckin' with you.

Just Sayin'

My cat uses her paws to drink, but she's a weirdo. She also scoots her food out of the bowl, on to the floor and plays hockey with it before she decides it's edible. Sometimes, she leaves it in the middle of the floor because she's a jerk.


Also- D'awwwwwwwwww. Hanners is really making great strides! I hope that her improvements rub off on Mari. She's not hopeless, but she will be if she convinces herself otherwise. I hope we see more of Francis! (He just has to keep her out of Zero-G)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 06:03
techkid- It's Dale, yo.

So far, totally agreeing with those projecting-hopes-of-her-own-life-also-going-well onto Marigold with this strip.

Man, these poor girls, though. Neither of them are too good with the boy thing (honestly, I'm not, either, but I didn't throw up on what was basically my first kiss (I know the Angus thing, I choose not to count it)), one is shy because she only has the internet for social examples, the other is shy because shes terrified of everything. And, yet, somehow they're helping each other with what is kickass advice. So. Maybe not "poor girls" but something close.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Skewbrow on 23 Mar 2012, 06:14
Having been away most of the week I'm amazed that this collection of nerds, otherwise known as a 'forum', missed Akima's Hitchhikers quip yesterday. :-o Where are your towels?!

Who says we missed it?  We're not all hairdressers!


I didn't miss it either. I was just... ehh... having a bath? Or unwilling to bite a bait. Your call.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TinPenguin on 23 Mar 2012, 06:16
She's not hopeless, but she will be if she convinces herself otherwise.

This is so very true for many people I know. Well, it's true for everybody to some extent, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Black Sword on 23 Mar 2012, 06:22
What a positive note to end the week on! It even seems that the cake is not a lie, which is even better.

I guess Jeph wanted *puts sunglasses on* to bring us down to earth.
Affirmative (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o)

 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Schmorgluck on 23 Mar 2012, 06:29
I don't remember her having one period, but then again, she might have never been shown in profile while talking.
You know, you really ought to have put a comma between "one" and "period". I was skimming the thread, and the first part of your sentence caused me some confusion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 06:53
I don't remember her having one period, but then again, she might have never been shown in profile while talking.
You know, you really ought to have put a comma between "one" and "period". I was skimming the thread, and the first part of your sentence caused me some confusion.

Thought the same thing but didn't want to bring it up. I thought that I was just dirty minded or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Skewbrow on 23 Mar 2012, 07:32
Dirty minded? On this forum? Heaven forbid!

Re: toilet lid positioning. As they say, "Any man winning an argument with his SO has only himself to blame."

Angus did really well. Concentrating on Faye's feelings, and totally ignoring the question of who left it up. If only I could always...

Marigold, go get some cake!

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Mar 2012, 07:36
Marten would just have folded. Angus is better for Faye than Marten would have been.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: sitnspin on 23 Mar 2012, 07:44
"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

This happened  to me.   


Then she died.


Still... it WAS wonderful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: idontunderstand on 23 Mar 2012, 08:03
Hannelore sounds uncharacteristically mature in this one. Also I think it might be a bit too early for her to give up, even after trying to subject Francis to puke-kisses. Come on Marigold, get out there, try again. Do it. Do it do it do it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: vettechinohio on 23 Mar 2012, 08:25
"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

This happened to me.   


Then she died.


Still... it WAS wonderful.

I'm sad for you ): That she died, of course, not that you got to experience the relationship. I'm glad it was wonderful while you had it.  It reminds me of a bit from one of my favorite movies: "No man, nor anything in this world preserves their life forever. But only to men is it given to know that we must die, and that is a precious gift. This life, that is both our torment and our treasure, was never meant to endure for eternity. Life is a wave on the sea."

I've always thought that; that the knowledge of our own mortality is a gift, and what makes life precious. And that giving life to someone else is the only way we can live forever. I don't necessarily mean having children, but having a significant other or even a very close friend, someone that has come alive as a result of knowing you, is giving life to someone. That is something that will never disappear. It becomes part of both of you. And it sounds like you had that.

And for that, I'm so very, very happy for you (:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 23 Mar 2012, 08:40
I think that seems to be the difference between Marigold and Hannelore - Marigold does give up a bit easily and she feels sorry for herself more readily than Hanners seems to.

well that's it right there. the thing is that hannelore is really a lot tougher than she seems; she's got some intense, arguably crippling mental problems, and yet she's still standing. she makes progress, deals with setbacks, and occasionally tucks her head down and powers through her issues by brute force of will. the lady's a fighter, & through it all she remains cheerful.

on the other hand, marigold's problems are all ones that just about everyone has had at various points in their lives, and she is almost completely ruled by them. as soon as things don't go her way, she just gives up and crumples into a heap of self-pity.

arguably the strongest character in the strip is bffs with arguably the weakest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 08:59
Well, thats the point, isn't it? Jeph has created characters that fit real life personalities. They are larger than life, but at the same time we can all relate. We've all been friends with someone the complete opposite of us. Hell, my best friend and I are completely different and I couldn't live without her. And, I think they are weak and strong in different ways, really. Perhaps Hannelore shows her strength of will more, but Marigold is also working hard at changing herself. She is more sociable, more open, and is trying to get out of her shell.

I think Marigold IS the person with the problems that everyone has had for a reason. We can more easily relate and feel sympathy to someone like Marigold. She has crippling self esteem NOT because of mental issues such as Hanners but because of basing her outside world experience on what the internet and gaming has taught her they should be. You spend your whole life on the internet, its harder to walk outside and have a conversation and laugh with people because you always think "Well, when are they going to insult me or be mean or go away for a game".

Perhaps Hannelore has stronger things to overcome because of her mental illness. But, Marigold still has issues that do hurt her to overcome and shes doing it in a way that we can relate to: Quietly, gradually, and with bumps along the way. I think all the characters are overcoming things in their own way instead of just wallowing and not admitting problems. Thats strength to me.

Dammit, I keep ranting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheBiscuit on 23 Mar 2012, 09:18
Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.
She may not know how to handle it, but she's always seemed eager enough. The guy is still interested, she's being very foolish. Mind you, in any sane universe she'd plenty of options. She's a female gamer. That's a position of power in the dating world.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: J on 23 Mar 2012, 09:25
Well, thats the point, isn't it? Jeph has created characters that fit real life personalities. They are larger than life, but at the same time we can all relate. We've all been friends with someone the complete opposite of us. Hell, my best friend and I are completely different and I couldn't live without her. And, I think they are weak and strong in different ways, really. Perhaps Hannelore shows her strength of will more, but Marigold is also working hard at changing herself. She is more sociable, more open, and is trying to get out of her shell.

I think Marigold IS the person with the problems that everyone has had for a reason. We can more easily relate and feel sympathy to someone like Marigold. She has crippling self esteem NOT because of mental issues such as Hanners but because of basing her outside world experience on what the internet and gaming has taught her they should be. You spend your whole life on the internet, its harder to walk outside and have a conversation and laugh with people because you always think "Well, when are they going to insult me or be mean or go away for a game".

Perhaps Hannelore has stronger things to overcome because of her mental illness. But, Marigold still has issues that do hurt her to overcome and shes doing it in a way that we can relate to: Quietly, gradually, and with bumps along the way. I think all the characters are overcoming things in their own way instead of just wallowing and not admitting problems. Thats strength to me.

Dammit, I keep ranting.

hard habit to break aint it?

i get what you're saying for the most part and i don't really disagree, but i just don't sympathize with marigold very much. not because of the mundane nature of her problems, but rather because she never seems to do anything about them. the (not insignificant) progress she's made has all been due to someone else pushing her, rather than her own initiative.

if someone's working to overcome their problems, i'm in their corner all the way. doesn't matter how big the problem is, or even whether they succeed or fail. but if they don't want it enough to fight for it, then i've just got no time for them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Carl-E on 23 Mar 2012, 09:54
There comes a point in time where, after trying to help someone who's unwilling to change for the umtieth time, one just gives up. 

Hanners hasn't given up yet, and Marigold has  been making changes in her life, but glacial progress can be as infuriating as no progress at all. 




So basically, this is a testament to Hanner's friendship, that she's still willing to drag Mari out of her bed of woe (again) and get her out of the self-pity cycle and uinto the real world, a place she's having as much (if not more) trouble conquering. 

I think she's my hero...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 23 Mar 2012, 10:01
Actually I can see Marigold progress in this comic. She didn't actively argue with Hanners when she said "You're not an idiot." "Meh" might be a short step up, but she's thinking. And it looks like she's also allowing herself to be cheered up. Some people change slowly; remember Mar-bear pretty much started out from the bottom.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 10:35
Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.
She may not know how to handle it, but she's always seemed eager enough. The guy is still interested, she's being very foolish. Mind you, in any sane universe she'd plenty of options. She's a female gamer. That's a position of power in the dating world.

Since when? Marigold also has that shes a complete cutey. If all it took to get a boyfriend was being a gamer girl and having a tiny bit of confidence, I'd be crawling in guys right now. Unfortunately, you gotta be hot, too.
Yes, that is bitterness you see. I get sick of guys complaining about being friendzoned when the girls they want are way attractive and the girls they don't want are perfect personalities for them but not super hot. Not that you were complaining or even said anything about that. I'm just saying, gamer girls have just as much trouble as normal girls.

On a side note...I think the big thing is that Marigold didn't have any support to get out there to begin with. She does computer stuff for a living AND a hobby. She lives in an apartment with one other person who's social circle wasn't very large, either, if the fact that hes introduced no friends is any indication. I think Hanners and her circle were like a catalyst to her change-enzyme. Shes just a slow enzyme is all. Hannelore, on the other hand, was...some super combustible and long-burning chemical. I don't know. I ran outta analogy. And, its not like Hanners hasn't had help, either. Yes, she left on her own, but she kept her apartment to her OCD standards and her OCD was her job. Similar to Marigold keeping to her internet standards and her internet was her job. Different problems, different severity, so the change will come differently and in different amounts.

Kinda like if you filled a barrel with water and a bucket with water. They're both full. Take half away and they've both had a lot taken from them, but the barrel is more noticeable, simply because there was more amounts of water. Water being problems.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Milesb on 23 Mar 2012, 12:17
Kenyahp, I disagree with a kind of central point in what you're saying (if I'm reading it correctly) - It kind of reads to me like you're saying Marigold hasn't had any support and that's why she's like that? Because that would typify the difference - Hanners is taking responsibility for her condition, where as Marigold isn't.

Support or not, the decision to act and to improve yourself is one you make on your own and if you don't decide to do that then no amount of outside help will make any lasting improvement. I don't see a huge amount of Marigold development here to be honest. She's not dealing with her screw up, getting back up and doing something, she's blaming herself and wallowing in self pity, even in the face of Hanners, a woman with a bunch of issues herself who gets up every day and tries to better herself. If I was Hannerelore I'd get a bit pissed with Marigold's attitude.

She's not even replying to her properly. "Meh" ? "No. Wanna Sleep." ? What kind of way is that to speak to someone who's clearly trying to help you?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 12:45
Kenyahp, I disagree with a kind of central point in what you're saying (if I'm reading it correctly) - It kind of reads to me like you're saying Marigold hasn't had any support and that's why she's like that? Because that would typify the difference - Hanners is taking responsibility for her condition, where as Marigold isn't.

Support or not, the decision to act and to improve yourself is one you make on your own and if you don't decide to do that then no amount of outside help will make any lasting improvement. I don't see a huge amount of Marigold development here to be honest. She's not dealing with her screw up, getting back up and doing something, she's blaming herself and wallowing in self pity, even in the face of Hanners, a woman with a bunch of issues herself who gets up every day and tries to better herself. If I was Hannerelore I'd get a bit pissed with Marigold's attitude.

She's not even replying to her properly. "Meh" ? "No. Wanna Sleep." ? What kind of way is that to speak to someone who's clearly trying to help you?

No no, I was saying that until Hannelore came around no one was really around to tell her to get off her ass and hang out in the real world. Angus certainly didn't. Thats what I was going for. Hanners was a wreck but had Station and everyone on station to support her. Even if they weren't good at it.

I'm not saying Hannelore isn't super strong. I'm just saying that she has different problems. Hannelore is an adult and is acting like one. Maybe I understand Marigold's reactions because they are the reactions of a teenager. Self pity is what teens do best. And, if you live in the internet world, you're perpetually a teenager. I know this from experience. On the internet, playing wow, you don't have to grow up and out of your weird low-self-esteem-narcissism phase. Marigold doesn't have the social graces that allow her to be self confident and stand up from her mistakes. I think we are denying the fact that, up until Marten and friends, Hannelore really wasn't improving much beyond the fact that she had her own apartment. She developed vices such as smoking and drinking to cope rather than how she does it now. Hannelore has been around longer, also, than Marigold. If you search the beginning strips of her, you actually see change only coming on gradually. The major shift of touch took a really long time. And, Marbear has changed. Her interactions prove it. The fact that she accepted the invitation to come aboard in the first place, to me, speaks volumes. Hanners couldn't force her to go if she didn't want to. And, I think, thats the monumental change there. Accepting invitations for things that no one could force you to go to, such as to the bar, to a party, and to the space station. Sociophobia is a hard thing, in itself, to work around.

But, then again, I would agree that responses do come off as rude. But, they are best friends. At least she wasn't calling herself fat and ugly during it, too. Yelling at someone who can't help being sad and embarrassed doesn't help, so Hanners wasn't going to do it.

...dammit, I rant way too much. (I'm sorry!!!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Bastion on 23 Mar 2012, 12:48
Kenyahp, I disagree with a kind of central point in what you're saying (if I'm reading it correctly) - It kind of reads to me like you're saying Marigold hasn't had any support and that's why she's like that? Because that would typify the difference - Hanners is taking responsibility for her condition, where as Marigold isn't.

Support or not, the decision to act and to improve yourself is one you make on your own and if you don't decide to do that then no amount of outside help will make any lasting improvement. I don't see a huge amount of Marigold development here to be honest. She's not dealing with her screw up, getting back up and doing something, she's blaming herself and wallowing in self pity, even in the face of Hanners, a woman with a bunch of issues herself who gets up every day and tries to better herself. If I was Hannerelore I'd get a bit pissed with Marigold's attitude.

She's not even replying to her properly. "Meh" ? "No. Wanna Sleep." ? What kind of way is that to speak to someone who's clearly trying to help you?

You have to keep in mind that Marigold is unused to any kind of conflict in her life. Yes, she may be hiding right now, but once she gets to a point where she is more experienced in making mistakes and having to face up to them, she will be more confident in herself and the way she carries herself around other people. I used to be the same exact way, especially around guys.  The key here is that Marigold needs to take baby steps. This was, I would say, a rather large step for her today as she isn't used to guys being attracted to her or being asked out.  It almost seems to have shocked her into regressing slightly.

You can say you actively choose to change yourself, but for someone as awkward as Marigold, it is a very slow process. Hanners began improving as a person long before Marigold did so she has a step up on her and is probably helping because she feels a sort of kinship with what Marigold is going through right now. Marbear will get her stuff sorted out, but it's going to be slow in coming, unlike Hanners. It seemed like after she met Marten and his gang of friends she started taking leaps and bounds towards improving herself. It's different for everybody the rate at which you improve and become comfortable in your own skin.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 12:53
Plus, Hannelore will put up with Marigold's crap for any chance of there being a reasonable amount of babies in the future.

(Also, I agree completely, Bastion. Though, I imagine you have to have been awkward like Marigold to understand Marigold. Because I'm totally awkward.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Bastion on 23 Mar 2012, 12:55
Plus, Hannelore will put up with Marigold's crap for any chance of there being a reasonable amount of babies in the future.

(Also, I agree completely, Bastion. Though, I imagine you have to have been awkward like Marigold to understand Marigold. Because I'm totally awkward.)

It's like we're a hivemind of awkwardness or something. I personally am surprised that I do not accidentally set things on fire on a more regular basis.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 23 Mar 2012, 13:01
Dawwwwwww


Hanners - OCD Superfriend
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 13:02
Haha. From now on, if I see someone awkward in public, I'm going to follow them chanting "One of us! One of us! One of us!" then trip into them or something equally awkward. and then set their face on fire. Because I DO set things on fire on a regular basis.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kugai on 23 Mar 2012, 13:06
I expect  to see on your next Post that the FBI has visited you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Mar 2012, 13:55
Hannelore wants others to be well so she can use them as examples for herself (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1144).

Plus, she's compassionate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Mar 2012, 14:59
I note that in that strip, Faye puts her arm round Hanners without getting the reaction Marten did later.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: iduguphergrave on 23 Mar 2012, 15:06
It might've helped that Faye is female. I remember a strip way back where Dora had her arm around her at one point too, but it's only until recently that she's brought herself to be able to touch a guy (the hug she gave Sven on their "date.")
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Mar 2012, 15:09
Hannelore wants others to be well so she can use them as examples for herself (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1144).
"We're all puppets, [Hanners]. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 15:15
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=804 (URL fixed by moderator)
How do I insert a URL with words that you can click to take you there?! :( I'm so bad at this.

Anyways. I would agree with the lady theory. Because they are ladies and she is a lady, shes probably more comfortable with it. Maybe shes also caught less off guard and its not a full-body thing.


Edit: Also, I got a visit by the FBI. But, I just stared at them for a few minutes until they felt so weird they had to leave.

Edit2: Also also, just read the next comic in that arc. She falls asleep because shes medicated. Shes probably also medicated during the Faye one. That was her stay-up-for-days-at-a-time portion of the comic, I think, wasn't it? So, she may just not have noticed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 23 Mar 2012, 15:33
The folks here who see Marigold slowly becoming socialized are a lot more convincing. I wonder what Jeph will do with the story Monday. Maybe Marigold will come out of her bunk for cake and Hoopskootch (that was my wife's name for someone whose name she'd forgotten).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Magdalena on 23 Mar 2012, 15:38
Her relationships with guys are pretty limited (WoW and family notwithstanding): yaoi and slash fiction (yeah, not real, but people are weird like that sometimes), that guy that used to rile her up about her WoW character (I forgot his name, my memory sucks), and recently Marten. I don't remember if there was anything that could be called "intimate" in her life, and my guess is she just doesn't know how to handle it.
She may not know how to handle it, but she's always seemed eager enough. The guy is still interested, she's being very foolish. Mind you, in any sane universe she'd plenty of options. She's a female gamer. That's a position of power in the dating world.

Since when? Marigold also has that shes a complete cutey. If all it took to get a boyfriend was being a gamer girl and having a tiny bit of confidence, I'd be crawling in guys right now. Unfortunately, you gotta be hot, too.

I kind of have to agree what's being said here. Us "non-attractive gamer chicks" know when there's a good gamer chick who's ALSO good looking in room that we're kinda pwned. I know that a lot of guys would sit up and say "Don't be silly, we'd give you all an equal chance to date us!" And that's all very true, I eventually got to get married to a fantastic guy (and he's REALLY good looking) but he also is extremely nerdy himself. But in all honesty it's a matter of being patient and finding the right person who loves you for being nerdy AND thinks you are cute/pretty.

Quote
Yes, that is bitterness you see. I get sick of guys complaining about being friendzoned when the girls they want are way attractive and the girls they don't want are perfect personalities for them but not super hot.

I'll have to agree somewhat here - just look at the show "The Big Bang Theory" - Leonard is totally wolf pup in love with Penny and wants her to have his babies - he even SAYS so in the very first episode. And I'll agree that getting "friendzoned" purely for the fact that a non-attractive gamer chick is "one of the guys" as opposed to a girl like "Riley" from the webiseries "The Guild" - admit it - given the choice between someone like Clara and Riley, who will you pick? :P Also, I know Codex is the "good guy" in "The Guild" but she's pretty too, and "ackwardly cute" thus making the un-attractive gamer girls even more depressed because if you aren't "ackwardly cute" or "a pretty gamer" then you are just ...kinda... "one of the guys."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Mar 2012, 15:47
How do I insert a URL with words that you can click to take you there?!

See here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27949.msg1080591.html#msg1080591)
You can follow that link for instructions, or just quote this post to see what's there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 23 Mar 2012, 15:58
Thanks, pwhodges. I knew I had seen it somewhere but couldn't remember if it was somewhere I had posted or if it was somewhere I had lurked. Thanks so much!

So, lets try again. This is the comic aforementioned. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=804)

Magdalena- I hate that "one of the guys" bullshit. So much. I've never had it pulled on me, either, and I still hate it. So many of my friends have that happen to them. Luckily, I guess I'm just so unattractive that guys don't even bother saying "one of the guys" and just leave it at "Well. I dont feel that way."

God, maybe thats why I have such sympathy for Marigold. Shes trying her best to get some and I'm all stuck here on bitter avenue. Hahaha.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Mar 2012, 16:17
arguably the strongest character in the strip is bffs with arguably the weakest.

Ah... but which one is which? :)

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Mar 2012, 16:24
Which is the worst?

Null-G Puking before makeouts.     3 (5.1%)
Null-G Puking after (or DURING!) makeouts.     20 (33.9%)
Leaving the seat up.     1 (1.7%)
Falling in to said seat that was left up.     1 (1.7%)
Bad Spathe Ham.     5 (8.5%)
Getting your best friend's dad mad at you.     0 (0%)
Getting your best friend's dad - who owns a space station with a LASER - mad at you.     9 (15.3%)
Drunken Air Force Lieutenants.     0 (0%)
Drunken Air Force Lieutenants who ruin a perfect "D'AAAWWWWW" moment.     3 (5.1%)
Having to wait 18-24 hours for ANOTHER COMIC!     13 (22%)
Forget all this - I wanna play QC the Video Game!    4 (6.8%)

Total Members Voted: 59

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Oh, and yes, I suspect it's gonna be a foregone conclusion as to the Moment of the Week - though Hugging Hannelore might be Epic Moment 1A to HannerQuote's Epic Moment 1B.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: themacnut on 23 Mar 2012, 20:38
I get sick of guys complaining about being friendzoned when the girls they want are way attractive and the girls they don't want are perfect personalities for them but not super hot.

Unfortunately, attraction is not a choice. You can choose what if anything to do about an attraction to someone, but you can't choose whether or not to be attracted to them. That is the joy and the curse of physical/sexual attraction.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: sitnspin on 23 Mar 2012, 21:22
"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

This happened to me.   


Then she died.


Still... it WAS wonderful.

I'm sad for you ): That she died, of course, not that you got to experience the relationship. I'm glad it was wonderful while you had it.  It reminds me of a bit from one of my favorite movies: "No man, nor anything in this world preserves their life forever. But only to men is it given to know that we must die, and that is a precious gift. This life, that is both our torment and our treasure, was never meant to endure for eternity. Life is a wave on the sea."

I've always thought that; that the knowledge of our own mortality is a gift, and what makes life precious. And that giving life to someone else is the only way we can live forever. I don't necessarily mean having children, but having a significant other or even a very close friend, someone that has come alive as a result of knowing you, is giving life to someone. That is something that will never disappear. It becomes part of both of you. And it sounds like you had that.

And for that, I'm so very, very happy for you (:


Thank you for this.  That was a beautiful quote, and sounds familiar. What film is it from?

It was rough for a long time, but I am slowly getting to where I can appreciate the joy we had together more than I mourn the loss.  Even starting to get serious with someone new, which I honestly thought I would never do.

Moments in life are transitory. This doesn't make them less meaningful, it makes them matter even more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Tellusora on 23 Mar 2012, 22:10
"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

That is just beautiful and incredibly touching. I think this is how I manage to survive, in hope that things will eventually take a turn for the better. What an incredible sentiment. Thank you, Jeph, for knowing exactly what to say. This is why I love QC and why I'm still hanging around. Because it's moments like these that make it worthwhile.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Mar 2012, 23:56
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[URL=http://whatever]words that show up clickable[/URL],

or there's a button to insert a hyperlink.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: TheBiscuit on 24 Mar 2012, 03:05
Since when? Marigold also has that shes a complete cutey. If all it took to get a boyfriend was being a gamer girl and having a tiny bit of confidence, I'd be crawling in guys right now. Unfortunately, you gotta be hot, too.
Yes, that is bitterness you see. I get sick of guys complaining about being friendzoned when the girls they want are way attractive and the girls they don't want are perfect personalities for them but not super hot. Not that you were complaining or even said anything about that. I'm just saying, gamer girls have just as much trouble as normal girls.
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sure you're very attractive too, to the right man. Not everyone expects a movie star or lingerie model to fall into his arms, and not every man even wants that.  There's someone out there who will fall in love with you for the qualities you have. Not just because they like your personality but also because that one guy thinks you're super-hot too. Taste in women varies a lot, there's gonna someone who thinks you're just perfect.

I kind of have to agree what's being said here. Us "non-attractive gamer chicks" know when there's a good gamer chick who's ALSO good looking in room that we're kinda pwned.
Did you ever stop to think that self-identifying as a "non-attractive" gamer chick is part of the problem? If you've already made that determination, it reflects in your attitude. It's hard for someone else to find you sexy or cute if you don't believe it yourself.  I did read your full post and know that you're happily married, but still this is an important theoretical point even if of no practical use to you.

If you believe you're at least reasonably attractive, that reflects in your posture, your body language and your facial expressions at the very minimum. Obviously a guy is going to make his own judgement on how attractive he thinks you are, but you can apply a large modifier (positive or negative) with your attitude and the way you interact with him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Near Lurker on 24 Mar 2012, 03:20
...how the hell did I know that quote was from Earthsea?!  Especially since I've only read the first book, and any quote that refers to humanity as "men" really ought to put me right off thinking of Le Guin...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 Mar 2012, 03:59
Hannelore wants others to be well so she can use them as examples for herself (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1144).

Plus, she's compassionate.
The interesting thing with that, as well as a few other strips (the veterinarian/fireman arc, the Indiana Jones thing, the robot boyfriend thing, the horrible smile arc, the Sven date arc, the Hannelore and Marten talking about the mechanics of doing it strip), tells me that there's a long, slow arc here that will build up to Hannelore overcoming her OCD to have a satisfying relationship with someone. (Not speculating on who it'll be.) Of course, at QC's pacing, that'll take 5-10 years...  :-P

Even having said that she can't consummate a relationship, she's expressed curiosity in how it all works (no bearhat guy intent here by saying that), has attempted to live vicariously through the relationships of her friends, has gotten hope from her friends getting into relationships that she may be able to, she's clearly capable of being attracted to someone physically, and has even practiced being friendly with someone who's interested in her (failed horribly, but still). Everything I'm seeing is that she knows she's not ready, so she's not making a big deal about it, but she WANTS to be ready. Oh, and she's incredibly determined to overcome her OCD, can't forget that.

Now, hopefully, no bearhat guys interpret my post as an excuse to ship Hannelore with anyone, or worse, ship her with themselves. :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Mar 2012, 06:28
Please, everyone - remember, Faye grew up in an all-women household (after her father departed), wherein the seat was always  down. 
Faye didn't "grow up" in an all-woman household; by the time of her father's death, she was old enough to drive.

I know what he meant, though - Three women + one man = PUT THE #### TOILET SEAT DOWN.

Would it be too Sitcom-Dramedy-like to find out that Dad couldn't abide by always lifting the lid?...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Magdalena on 24 Mar 2012, 09:22
Please, everyone - remember, Faye grew up in an all-women household (after her father departed), wherein the seat was always  down. 

Faye didn't "grow up" in an all-woman household; by the time of her father's death, she was old enough to drive.

She lived with Marten for a very long time, and while I don't recall any strips indicating a separate bathroom (one for her and one for him) - I'm going to assume that Marten was good about keeping the seat down. And speaking as a woman who does wear glasses, having had the seat left up instead of down, accidentally "falling in" actually DOES kind of hurt - especially if you weren't paying attention and say "fell in" when really tired/sleepy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: pwhodges on 24 Mar 2012, 10:30
Still does live with Marten as far as we know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Mar 2012, 11:06
She probably meant to say "she has lived".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 24 Mar 2012, 11:56
Please, everyone - remember, Faye grew up in an all-women household (after her father departed), wherein the seat was always  down. 

Faye didn't "grow up" in an all-woman household; by the time of her father's death, she was old enough to drive.

She basically grew up in an all-woman household. Her mom seemed like a strong lady that would totally rule over her husband. A healthy dose of christian judgement will keep that seat down! Hahahaha.

Although, she was also old enough to go to college. She was...I think 19? I know she was between her sophomore and junior year.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Mar 2012, 12:00
Anywhere from 19 to 21, then, depending on when in the summer and when her birthday is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 24 Mar 2012, 12:34
Please, everyone - remember, Faye grew up in an all-women household (after her father departed), wherein the seat was always  down. 

Faye didn't "grow up" in an all-woman household; by the time of her father's death, she was old enough to drive.

She lived with Marten for a very long time, and while I don't recall any strips indicating a separate bathroom (one for her and one for him) - I'm going to assume that Marten was good about keeping the seat down. And speaking as a woman who does wear glasses, having had the seat left up instead of down, accidentally "falling in" actually DOES kind of hurt - especially if you weren't paying attention and say "fell in" when really tired/sleepy.

There was conversation about sharing a bathroom early on http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=73 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=73) starting in Marten's 1BR. I don't recall it continuing into the 2BR, but isn't there a floor plan somewhere around this institution? No discussion that I recall that either apartment has had bathroom exhaust fans. Never tried to use a url before. Preview isn't too promising. RTFM, Bobbie!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: squab on 24 Mar 2012, 12:53
Thanks, pwhodges. I knew I had seen it somewhere but couldn't remember if it was somewhere I had posted or if it was somewhere I had lurked. Thanks so much!

So, lets try again. This is the comic aforementioned. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=804)

Magdalena- I hate that "one of the guys" bullshit. So much. I've never had it pulled on me, either, and I still hate it. So many of my friends have that happen to them. Luckily, I guess I'm just so unattractive that guys don't even bother saying "one of the guys" and just leave it at "Well. I dont feel that way."

God, maybe thats why I have such sympathy for Marigold. Shes trying her best to get some and I'm all stuck here on bitter avenue. Hahaha.

You know, I've just got to throw this out there - a significant amount of looks and beauty has to do with clothes and makeup and working out. A certain amount of it is just genetics or how you were born or what-not, but... you'd be surprised what a makeover can do.

I knew this girl in highschool who was a gamer girl, wasn't ugly but wasn't especially attractive, etc. After highschool we didn't see each other for a year (despite the fact that she lives like a 5 minute walk from my house >_<) and the next time I saw her... wow. It was still her, only she wore makeup and did her hair nice and wore nice clothes... and it made a HUGE difference.

Plus, as someone else pointed out, identifying yourself as non-attractive doesn't help.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 24 Mar 2012, 12:57
I guess I base age on my own. I'll be a 20 year old junior.

Also, redball- You gotta remember they moved into the apartment below Hannelore. Here it only says "bedrooms and bath", but that only means they have one bathtub/shower, correct? Because...yeah. Isnt a halfbath just a toilet?  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=313)

Oh, wow. An unusual amount of people have taken what I said about gamer girls wrongly. Lets say it differently. At least, about myself. See, I think I'm pretty. I dress nicely, have nice skin that doesn't require makeup, but am overweight. Because of that, I've been bullied my whole life. I still am confident and love myself. Confident enough to willingly give speeches in front on large audiences. The thing is, I know that, to 'normal' people, I'm not attractive. And, its not for lack of trying. I literally can't lose weight. Exercised and ate a balanced diet for over a year and stayed exactly the same. That being, literally, walking two miles every day and eating correctly based on nutrition. I started taking metabolism pills and have lost some weight, but still not much. I love myself the way I am, anyways. So, that bitterness isn't from a bad view on myself. Its from literally every guy I've ever liked treating me like dirt and not being my friend anymore when they found out I liked them. My bitterness towards gamer guys is the fact that I know so many gamer girls that guys have said "well, I love your personality, but you just aren't hot enough". You don't say that to a girl. I believe everyone is beautiful in their own way. And, if you aren't attracted to someone, thats fine. You can't force it. But, I have seen and gotten too much of that to not be bitter.

For the record, I can admit that I am wrong and just being vindictive on some points. Totally. I'm just saying that its not a lack of confidence that makes me bitter, haha.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 24 Mar 2012, 13:38
My first wife was hot. When she left me, it occurred to me that hot was not so hot. My second wife wasn't nearly so glamorous. But she knew how to engage guys, and that was kind of hot. I met her in group therapy. She'd been seeing a shrink for a few months, worried because she felt unattractive and was unmarried at 28. He asked her how many guys she'd gone out with in her life. About 30, she guessed. He challenged her to meet 30 in a year. I was #21. With a glance, she had learned, she could get a guy to ask for her phone number in a supermarket, at a gas station. It seemed there was a lesson there, a connection between self-image and attractiveness that made appearance less important. As Marigold's probably about to begin to find out. Sure, she' a cutie. I wish she smiled more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 24 Mar 2012, 13:56
The direction this thread has taken might be a little harsh: "Change your attitude and everything gets better." Aforementioned second wife was a 28-year cancer survivor until, a year ago January, just short of 40 years of marriage, she wasn't. She used to get furious with those who connected the "right attitude" with healing and curing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Mar 2012, 15:01
There's a good xkcd about that.

The wiki has a floor plan of Marten and Faye's apartment (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Marten), which jwhouk put together from the fragmentary views we've seen.

What if Marigold really is sleepy? She could be sedated from her dramamine patch. No, wait, that was the day before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 24 Mar 2012, 15:15
Aw, so it is one bathroom. So, that would explain her being used to having it her way.

She could be sleepy from the sheer fact that its probably sleep time for her and she was overexcited by lasers and then omgaboy. I mean, I know I would be exhausted by then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Mar 2012, 18:05
In 464 Faye was in the bathroom after Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 24 Mar 2012, 18:25
In 464 Marten was using Pintsize as a cereal bowl.

One thing about the bathrooms we do know: Old plumbing. Apparently throughout the building, if the time it exploded on Hanners and the time it shut off on Hanners is any indication.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Mordhaus on 24 Mar 2012, 23:32
"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

It's a good thing this was said in a comic and previously in a fictional fantasy series, because in real life it is more like, "Most of the time things are going to either go wrong or be mediocre, and you will slog along like the rest of us schleps not knowing what to do."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 25 Mar 2012, 00:00
"Someday everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do."

It's a good thing this was said in a comic and previously in a fictional fantasy series, because in real life it is more like, "Most of the time things are going to either go wrong or be mediocre, and you will slog along like the rest of us schleps not knowing what to do."
I don't think that's the case. I looked around for "happiness index," and the U.S. ranks quite well, although I'm not sure how scientific that is. There might be a difference in perception between the present and the past, i.e., "I'm not particularly happy at the moment," and years later, "I had a helluva good run." But I believe more people are satisfied with their lives than you apparently do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 25 Mar 2012, 00:12
I gotta go along with Redball. I find myself looking back fondly on times and situations during which, if I remember honestly, I did a lot of bitching. A friend who went through some of those times with me summed it up with, " We didn't appreciate what we had."  (I should add neither of us are doing badly at the moment.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: idontunderstand on 25 Mar 2012, 01:39
Jeph's tweeting lately makes me laugh my head off


(.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: techkid on 25 Mar 2012, 03:04
Oh, wow. An unusual amount of people have taken what I said about gamer girls wrongly. Lets say it differently. At least, about myself. See, I think I'm pretty. I dress nicely, have nice skin that doesn't require makeup, but am overweight. Because of that, I've been bullied my whole life. I still am confident and love myself. Confident enough to willingly give speeches in front on large audiences. The thing is, I know that, to 'normal' people, I'm not attractive. And, its not for lack of trying. I literally can't lose weight. Exercised and ate a balanced diet for over a year and stayed exactly the same. That being, literally, walking two miles every day and eating correctly based on nutrition. I started taking metabolism pills and have lost some weight, but still not much. I love myself the way I am, anyways. So, that bitterness isn't from a bad view on myself. Its from literally every guy I've ever liked treating me like dirt and not being my friend anymore when they found out I liked them. My bitterness towards gamer guys is the fact that I know so many gamer girls that guys have said "well, I love your personality, but you just aren't hot enough". You don't say that to a girl. I believe everyone is beautiful in their own way. And, if you aren't attracted to someone, thats fine. You can't force it. But, I have seen and gotten too much of that to not be bitter.

For the record, I can admit that I am wrong and just being vindictive on some points. Totally. I'm just saying that its not a lack of confidence that makes me bitter, haha.
Been there, seen that... I'm a guy, but even I get a bit disgusted by another guy's treatment of girls (attractive or not). That being said,  my personality is rather messy (I have trouble dealing with people in real life, but online I am capable of being me quite well (I reckon it's due to the whole "safety zone" feeling you get in an online discussion, that and I have time to think of what I am going to say)), and my looks are pretty much substandard (a bit podgy, uncooperative facial hair and two-toned skin colour (my head, neck and lower arms are more or less exposed to the elements, but the rest of me is white as a ghost), so judging someone on looks alone is horrendously hypocritical in my books.

That being said, I've equally been on the receiving end of a lady's judgment (I don't really know if it is a cause of or a result of the aforementioned personality defects, but anyway). I've tried talking with ladies, some reasonably attractive, some not "classically" attractive, but all with wonderful personalities (this is probably the one standard that I hold to a girl. Magazine model girls with personalities the same as the paper they're printed on (shiny to look at, but close enough to 2-dimensional as makes no difference) are ultimately meaningless). I eventually pluck up enough courage to ask one out, and they introduce me to a boyfriend that would probably fit in on Jersey Shore without a problem.

Please note: I may also be misunderstanding your point (my apologies if I am), this is another result of me being... well, me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 25 Mar 2012, 08:52
Techkid- Not at all misunderstanding. My point was being made specifically for myself and on behalf of many girls I know with the same experiences. Yours was made for you and on behalf of many guys with that experience. Trust me, I have guy friends, too, who have had all that happen.

Its a good perspective to see a guy's side of things. Thank you for the insight.

I think the major difference ends up being gender stereotype. Men prefer good looking ladies and want the personality to come second. Women prefer good personalities and want good looking, but don't mind if that comes second. And, to top it off, women also date jerks from the Jersey Shore, haha.

I think saying "dating sucks" would sum it all up nicely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 25 Mar 2012, 09:20
I'll FYP a bit, if ya don't mind.

Boys prefer good looking ladies and want personality to come second.
Men prefer personality and consider looks a bonus.
Note that the terms "boys" and "men" are not necessarily indicative of elapsed time since birth.
As I told a former co-worker for whom I have high hopes despite delayed maturity, "As you grow up, you'll find 'stupid' cancels out an awful lot of 'hot.'"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 25 Mar 2012, 09:24
Hahaha, excellent point, DSL.

I'm 20, so of course all I really know is boys. College boys, at that. Maybe I've developed a taste for men ten or fifteen years my senior because of that very rule.

Not we just need to know the difference between girls and women, and we'll be all set for techkid up above. Although, my mom told me once how a girl becomes a woman...I didn't really wanna know...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 25 Mar 2012, 09:40
I think the girls-vs.-women definition you elucidated above works just fine-- again, noting it does not necessarily have anything to do with elapsed time since birth. As for your stated preference in older men, I've noticed that in a couple women friends of mine who've done exactly that: They've grown up and they want any potential mates to have done so, too. In one case involving another good friend, she remained more mature than he did, right up to the divorce and (his) new girlfriend.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Kenyahp on 25 Mar 2012, 09:46
Well, it has been said that women mature quicker than men.

I think the problem is is that women always say they want someone that makes them laugh. Like, right off the bat. And, unfortunately, unless you have a dry sense of humor. they are going to make you laugh by being immature. And women are like "hes so goofy!" which is great, but can he raise a damn kid and hold two jobs if he has to?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Mar 2012, 10:35
And our moment of the week?

Happy Birthday from Hugging Hannelore!    10 (27.8%)
Lt. Potter disrupts the D'awwwwww    4 (11.1%)
"That's the first time you've willingly hugged me since you were a baby!"    2 (5.6%)
A little physical contact...    0 (0%)
Schtup MY daughter, eh?    3 (8.3%)
Observatory is up at the top of the spindle... in zero-g...    0 (0%)
"Wuh... wait." KISSSS HURRRRLLL Agh!    2 (5.6%)
ANGUS DID YOU LEAVE THE TOILET SEAT UP?    3 (8.3%)
That's the most stereotypical, sitcom thing you could possibly...    0 (0%)
...You fell in? "I fell in.    0 (0%)
You better not be making fun of me.    1 (2.8%)
Francis told me you... he told me what happened. (I'm SUCH AN IDIOT)    0 (0%)
Someday, everything is going to go right for you, and it will be so wonderful you won't even know what to do.    9 (25%)
...Will there be cake?    2 (5.6%)

Total Members Voted: 36
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: vettechinohio on 25 Mar 2012, 12:32
Thank you for this.  That was a beautiful quote, and sounds familiar. What film is it from?

It was rough for a long time, but I am slowly getting to where I can appreciate the joy we had together more than I mourn the loss.  Even starting to get serious with someone new, which I honestly thought I would never do.

Moments in life are transitory. This doesn't make them less meaningful, it makes them matter even more.

It was from the movie Tales from Earthsea, but I'm not sure if that quote was in the books as well. I think someone mentioned they recognized it from the books.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 26 Mar 2012, 09:31
Not we just need to know the difference between girls and women, and we'll be all set for techkid up above. Although, my mom told me once how a girl becomes a woman...I didn't really wanna know...
Naw, a girl becomes a woman when she can tell the difference between boys and men.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 26 Mar 2012, 11:44
Not we just need to know the difference between girls and women, and we'll be all set for techkid up above. Although, my mom told me once how a girl becomes a woman...I didn't really wanna know...
Naw, a girl becomes a woman when she can tell the difference between boys and men.

And realizes she prefers the latter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Mar 2012, 20:49
Does a boy become a man when he can tell the difference between girls and women? I honestly don't get what jmucchiello is saying.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Redball on 26 Mar 2012, 20:57
Does a boy become a man when he can tell the difference between girls and women? I honestly don't get what jmucchiello is saying.
I don't think it's a reference to the physical attributes&differences, the Ts and the As, but to the maturity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Mar 2012, 21:30
Well yeah, but are they saying a girl matures when she can tell how mature someone else is?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: DSL on 26 Mar 2012, 22:27
 ... when she can not only tell, but prefers maturity in a mate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: squab on 26 Mar 2012, 23:58
I gotta go along with Redball. I find myself looking back fondly on times and situations during which, if I remember honestly, I did a lot of bitching. A friend who went through some of those times with me summed it up with, " We didn't appreciate what we had."  (I should add neither of us are doing badly at the moment.)

That's called Rose Tinted Glasses. People generally look back on the past with fondness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Mar 2012, 00:03
Learning discernment is an indispensable part of growing up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Mar 2012, 00:30
... when she can not only tell, but prefers maturity in a mate.
Yeah, but if maturity is just preferring maturity in a mate, then maturity is preferring someone who prefers maturity and we're stuck in a loop.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2146-50 (19-23 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week NINE?!?!?!?!?
Post by: jmucchiello on 27 Mar 2012, 15:34
Not we just need to know the difference between girls and women, and we'll be all set for techkid up above. Although, my mom told me once how a girl becomes a woman...I didn't really wanna know...
Naw, a girl becomes a woman when she can tell the difference between boys and men.

And realizes she prefers the latter.
I figured that part was just understood. But apparently I was wrong.

... when she can not only tell, but prefers maturity in a mate.
Yeah, but if maturity is just preferring maturity in a mate, then maturity is preferring someone who prefers maturity and we're stuck in a loop.
What are you talking about? Maturity is attracted to maturity. Period. There is no loop.
statement: boys become men when they no longer seek out mates by physical appearance alone, preferring personality over appearance.
statement: girls become women when they seek out men over boys for mates as defined in the previous statement.