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« Reply #50 on: 21 Apr 2006, 18:07 »

Metal-archives.com does not own me.  TAKE IT BACK!

...And that's how I start the page.  I regret nothing.
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« Reply #51 on: 21 Apr 2006, 20:04 »

And you shouldn't regret anything...


That was a little strange, in one post we go from Viking recommendations to Kamelot????
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« Reply #52 on: 21 Apr 2006, 20:10 »

I have no idea, but Kamelot is still awesome.
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« Reply #53 on: 21 Apr 2006, 22:11 »

anyone have any african black metal? black black metal, I mean?
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« Reply #54 on: 22 Apr 2006, 03:01 »

Was talking about this:
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« Reply #55 on: 22 Apr 2006, 03:17 »

Epica was a better album.
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« Reply #56 on: 22 Apr 2006, 04:41 »

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Actually, some of my freinds call me "communist" because I argue with my history teacher about everything. Why communist? They're retarded, thats why.

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Same here. I've taken to wearing a CCCP shirt just to spite them.
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« Reply #57 on: 22 Apr 2006, 04:44 »

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anyone have any african black metal? black black metal, I mean?


Wait, does this really exist?
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« Reply #58 on: 22 Apr 2006, 06:05 »

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anyone have any african black metal? black black metal, I mean?


I've got Susan Lawly's 'Extreme Music From Africa' compilation, but it's all noise.
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« Reply #59 on: 22 Apr 2006, 07:13 »

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Same here. I've taken to wearing a CCCP shirt just to spite them.

Heh, I have one too. I went to school with it once and one of my friends jumped on me and started shouting "I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW IT!!".


And wait, Black Black Metal? Are'nt we asking too much?
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« Reply #60 on: 22 Apr 2006, 10:55 »

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Epica was a better album.


Actually, the only Kamelot album I own is their latest, the Black Halo, but it's totally fucking great. Seriously, if all power metal was as tasteful, the genre wouldn't be such a massive joke.
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« Reply #61 on: 22 Apr 2006, 11:25 »

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anyone have any african black metal? black black metal, I mean?


Wait, does this really exist?


there were WARS to stop that kind of shit from erupting into the world.
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« Reply #62 on: 23 Apr 2006, 20:08 »

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I picked up Doomsday Machine last saturday and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Coming from someone who usually can't stomach death metal vocals, that's gotta mean something. Nemesis and Mechanic God Creation are sufficiently awesome for me to freak out over them.




That's only because her "death" vocals aren't good death vocals.
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« Reply #63 on: 23 Apr 2006, 20:35 »

Even I can't get into all death vocalists. Trying to imagine Spirit Crusher without Chuck's ridiculously over-the-top vocal delivery is difficult though. I don't think it'd be nearly as much fun.
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« Reply #64 on: 24 Apr 2006, 15:46 »

I have to say, though, listening to the extra material on Wages of Sin made me cringe.

No, I'm sorry, "Aces High" doesn't work with yells.

The thing I'm really enjoying about the album, though, is how much songs like "Burning Angel" and "Heart of Darkness" almost sound like pop songs, wiht strong, would-be-melodic-without-the-roar choruses and great harmonies.  I would be really curious to hear the same band, except with an operatic vocalist instead, just to wonder at the magnificence that would ensue.
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« Reply #65 on: 25 Apr 2006, 10:47 »

I saw Arch Enemy at the Chicago house of blues yesterday and they were absolutely amazing. Amott is one hell of a guitarist and Gossow does a pretty good job on vocals, air-guitar and air-drums :) Their older songs (the ones that i havent herd before because i only have Doomsday Machine) sounded better live than the new ones, so i'll probably going to dig a little deeper and buy some of their earlier cds.

The opening bands were kind of meh, except, maybe Hate Eternal, but their songs were somewhat repetitive and that "taka taka taka" drum got really annoying after second or third song.
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« Reply #66 on: 27 Apr 2006, 01:56 »

You may not think that Disturbed is metal enough, but I think they fucking rule and it really doesn't matter what you think now does it?
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« Reply #67 on: 27 Apr 2006, 02:18 »

you're a grade A cunt then, aren't you?
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« Reply #68 on: 27 Apr 2006, 02:25 »

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You may not think that Disturbed is metal enough, but I think they fucking rule and it really doesn't matter what you think now does it?


I think ABBA are the most metal band out there, and only Therion happen to agree with me, but liking Disturbed doesn't make them metal.

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« Reply #69 on: 27 Apr 2006, 02:49 »

Wasn't meant to be mean. It just really doesn't matter to me whether you like them or not. And you just made yourself look like a tool. On another note: There's upwards of 15 different genres of metal, and unless you specify, black, death, viking, power, folk ect. You really can't nitpick.
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« Reply #70 on: 27 Apr 2006, 03:21 »

Tool identified.

Target lock in 5...4...
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« Reply #71 on: 27 Apr 2006, 09:25 »

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I think ABBA are the most metal band out there, and only Therion happen to agree with me,


...and the other 13 bands on 'A Metal Tribute to ABBA'.
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« Reply #72 on: 27 Apr 2006, 11:27 »

I think there's more than one metal tributes to ABBA. At least there was one specifically for Scandinavia and it most definitely did not have anyone as big as Therion on it.
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« Reply #73 on: 27 Apr 2006, 11:32 »

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You may not think that Disturbed is metal enough, but I think they fucking rule and it really doesn't matter what you think now does it?


I quite like Disturbed. They're probably the best thing that came out of nu-metal. That's not saying much to most people here, though.
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« Reply #74 on: 27 Apr 2006, 11:32 »

The one I have is

Spiral Tower - Chiquitita
Glow - Dancing Queen
Sargant Fury - Eagle
Sinergy - Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!
Tad Morse - Knowing Me, Knowing You
At Vance - Money, Money, Money
Flowing Tears - One Of Us
Paradox - S.O.S.
Therion - Summer Night CIty
Custard - Super Trouper
Rough Silk - Take A Chance On Me
Metalium - Thank You For The Music
Morgana Lefay - Voulez-Vouz
Nation - Waterloo

So yahr, if there's a just scandinavia one, there must be more than one, as it doesn't even stay scandinavian with track one.
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« Reply #75 on: 27 Apr 2006, 11:48 »

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I quite like Disturbed. They're probably the best thing that came out of nu-metal. That's not saying much to most people here, though.


I completely disagree.  I never liked Disturbed, even when I liked nu-metal.
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« Reply #76 on: 27 Apr 2006, 12:02 »

To each his own, I guess.

To be fair, Disturbed was only really nu-metal on The Sickness. On Believe and Ten Thousand Fists they play something more akin to traditional metal. Fewer electronics, no rapping (although really, the only thing close to rapping Disturbed ever did was Droppin' Plates), and eventually, guitar solos.

I think that outside of The Sickness, Disturbed is pretty much qualified to be a Pantera tribute band or something. I heard 'em play 'Walk' once, and it was pretty much spot on, and that's when I realized that they actually have a somewhat similar sound.

Why I like them is probably a sort of respect because they stopped playing nu-metal around the same time I got disillusioned with the genre and started looking for more music, reinforcing my belief that there's gotta be something more.

They are quite repetitive at times, though.
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« Reply #77 on: 27 Apr 2006, 12:09 »

Man, those guitar solos are pretty jaw dropping horrible. SCALES WOAHZ
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« Reply #78 on: 27 Apr 2006, 12:12 »

Yeah, Dan's a pretty terrible guitarist. I think he might have actually been playing guitar for a whole month before they started the band.

Hey, but at least they're trying. That meshes with me. Also, I think the drummer is pretty good, and Draiman is a hilarious vocalist, and fun to scream along with.

Can't judge their new bassist, but you couldn't judge their old one either. You can't hear them.

I guess I basically just like them out of nostalgia. Which is weird, because they're actually a fairly young band. Curse my late 80's birthdate!
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« Reply #79 on: 27 Apr 2006, 12:14 »

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I think that outside of The Sickness, Disturbed is pretty much qualified to be a Pantera tribute band or something. I heard 'em play 'Walk' once, and it was pretty much spot on, and that's when I realized that they actually have a somewhat similar sound.


Ah, well I've never been able to stand Pantera either.
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« Reply #80 on: 27 Apr 2006, 12:16 »

Many people can't. I, however, find them to be hilariously over the top fun with sufficient headbangability. You know, kind of like Manowar, but with less body oil.
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« Reply #81 on: 27 Apr 2006, 14:16 »

And less gay orgies.
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« Reply #82 on: 27 Apr 2006, 14:18 »

But those are the two best parts!
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« Reply #83 on: 27 Apr 2006, 14:19 »

Fewer.  Fewer gay orgies.


And, yes, that is the only thing wrong with that sentence.
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« Reply #84 on: 29 Apr 2006, 11:53 »

You know, Walk is pretty much the easiest Pantera (or maybe even the easiest metal) song ever. That's the reason why terrible bands (such as Disturbed and Trivium) always play it "in tribute."



As for Disturbed, they're just nu/alternative metal*, meaning they have few metal influences, but are mainly just a rock band. Guitar solos≠metal.







*neither nu- or alternative metal are real metal sub-genres, they're rather just light descriptions, as many nu- and/or alternative metal bands can sound very different from one another. There's always a main genre that the band falls under, which is usually rock.
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« Reply #85 on: 29 Apr 2006, 11:56 »

Trivium plays Master Of Puppets all the times.

Also, Mouth For War is easier than Walk.
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« Reply #86 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:16 »

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Trivium plays Master Of Puppets all the times.

Also, Mouth For War is easier than Walk.




I don't listen to much Metallica, therefore I haven't heard that song. I'll listen to it now, and since it's an 8 and a half minute song, if I can learn it all in less than 15 minutes(starting from when I first listen to the song), I will consider it not difficult at all.
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« Reply #87 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:21 »

Hey, I'm not defending Trivium here, they write terrible music, but you gotta give 'em more credit than being able to just play Walk.

Also, when I heard Disturbed play it, it was before Dimebag was killed, so it's not really in 'tribute'. They just wanted to play Walk.
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« Reply #88 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:28 »

Personally, I have a prejudice towards Trivium. I know they're competant players, but as you said they are not good song writers. I just really don't like them in any way.




Still listening to Master of Puppets. It's almost over.


Edit: ok, it's over.
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« Reply #89 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:32 »

Trivium, much as I dislike them, has some talent.  

Disturbed on the other hand...are basically what everyone has been calling, them, a poor hard rock band that got lumped in with all the nu-metal bands.  Playing power chords and screaming sometimes does not a metal band make.

Also, while I respect them as musician's to an extent, Pantera is really rather boring. And I partially blame them for jumpstarting nu-metal, though they weren't really themselves.
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« Reply #90 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:35 »

Well my time is up. And since Master of Puppets is such a repetetive song, I was able to learn it in less time than I thought I would.
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« Reply #91 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:52 »

Trivium, as said before, is proof that technical facility does not a good band make. Their songwriting is so whiny and ridiculously repetitive that they are nothing but endless grating on my nerves.
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« Reply #92 on: 29 Apr 2006, 14:06 »

As far as Disturbed goes..David Draiman (the singer) can fucking sing. Otherwise..not that exceptional.

 By the way..Theatre of Tragedy? Hm? Anyone?
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« Reply #93 on: 29 Apr 2006, 15:18 »

Old ToT is the business. Unfortunately, they caught they old 'late nineties goth metal disease'.

You know what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #94 on: 29 Apr 2006, 15:57 »

...they became the new Cat Rapes Dog?
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« Reply #95 on: 30 Apr 2006, 05:27 »

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As far as Disturbed goes..David Draiman (the singer) can fucking sing. Otherwise..not that exceptional.


When I first heard The Sickness when I was an angsty teenager, I was convinced they had two singers.
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« Reply #96 on: 30 Apr 2006, 06:18 »

I thought Cradle of Filth had two male singers at first, as well. Or at least, one of the guitarists would do those semi-spoken bits. This was probably not helped by the fact they got that creepy guy with a beard looking as if he was singing in the Her Ghost in the Fog vid. I wised up relatively quickly though.
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« Reply #97 on: 05 May 2006, 02:06 »

ok where in hell did the term Melodeth come from?

ive like Carcass since 1991 and they were definately just deathmetal then.

For some real musicianship try either mercyful fate or king diamond, same singer, slightly different styles in playing.

i thought Arch Enemy was ok, just more like a death metal band who tried to copy maiden, early metallica, and manowar, and ended up bored with it after about the 3rd time i heard the album

also can anyone link me to the speed metal topic, i cant find the thing
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« Reply #98 on: 07 May 2006, 09:57 »

Another metal thread? Where am I, Blabbermouth.net or what?

Actually, I like it that a band like Arch Enemy can get the approval of non-metal-heads.

Melodeth is just a term that was invented by the press. Same with nu-metal; bands like Biohazard and Rage Against The Machine used to be called cross-over metal and Korn played something called spookycore (hate the term too).

Two words to add to the whole "Master Musician" discussion. Neil. Young.
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« Reply #99 on: 07 May 2006, 10:00 »

I have never, ever, ever heard the term spookycore. I can, however, on the first time hearing it, be pretty sure that it's fucking retarded.
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