Topic: Classical Music? (Read 13899 times)

End If Kris · « **on:** 11 Aug 2006, 11:09 »

Anyone else like Classical Music? I got into it when I was studying music History(got out fo that class dry as hell) and started on the standard stuff, you know Beathoven, Bach, Mozart, My favorite probably being Vivaldi and his Four Seasons (maybe becasue it was the first I had heard?) anyway tell all. Dont be shy.

timehat · « **Reply #1 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 11:38 »

I'm much more partial to later stuff: Satie, Bartok, Ravel, Reich, Riley, Glass, Adams, etc etc...

greenMonkey · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 11:59 »

I also enjoy Reich and Glass.

I love Rimsky-Korsakov's Scherezade.

Also, Kjartan Sveinsson, the keyboard player for Sigur Ros wrote a beautiful suite of classical music for an Iceladic film that was nominated for an Academy Award (the film was, not the music), called Síðasti bærinn, and I'm quite partial to that.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 12:20 »

Quote from: timehat

I'm much more partial to later stuff: Satie, Bartok, Ravel, Reich, Riley, Glass, Adams, etc etc...

I love all of them, but we can't really call them classical. Also Stravinsky.

TrueNeutral · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 12:24 »

I like Debussy

timehat · « **Reply #5 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 12:49 »

Quote from: E. Spaceman

Quote from: timehat
I'm much more partial to later stuff: Satie, Bartok, Ravel, Reich, Riley, Glass, Adams, etc etc...

I love all of them, but we can't really call them classical. Also Stravinsky.

Well in the sense of it being "classical" vs. "popular" I think it is acceptable. Those are tenuous labels, sure, but I think most classification systems would be willing to accept my choices.

Lines · « **Reply #6 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 12:56 »

as long as we're not talking about eras, classical works. ^_^

i like stravinsky, ravel, mozart, tchaikovsky, and beethoven the most out of past classical composers and my favorite contemporary composer is eric whitacre. that man makes awesome choral music. and by awesome i mean OMGSPECTACULAR.

IronOxide · « **Reply #7 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 13:03 »

There's a few composers that I feel strongly about:

I Love
Tchaikovsky
J.S. Bach's Fugues
Ives

I Like
Schoenberg
Berg
Reich
Glass
Cage (Sometimes)
Ravel

I Hate
Chopin
Mozart

messynessie · « **Reply #8 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 13:59 »

i studied carmen by bizet in a mandatory music appreciation class at school about 5 years ago and i liked it. i don't mind classical music at all, i don't tend to listen to it voluntarily but only because i don't own any! i just never think to buy any! if anyone has any recommendations feel free!

Omnicide · « **Reply #9 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 15:17 »

Prokofiev is jolly good fun. but y'all knew that.

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #10 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 15:26 »

I think if we're not going to distinguish the different time periods of the classic period of music, a distinction should be drawn at least between "classical" and "contemporary". Artists like Phillip Glass, Steve Reich, Alan Schoenberg and the like really shouldn't be lumped in a classical discussion, at the least because it's very misleading to the musical content and doesn't serve those composers justly (in my opinion)

That being said, I think Shostakovich is overall an excellent composer. The Planets by Steinberg is a great piece. Mendelssohn had some great work also. Beethoven had some great string quartets, but pretty much any and all string arranement sounds beautiful in my book, so maybe I'm not the best gauge on that sort of thing.

pat101 · « **Reply #11 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 15:28 »

I luv me sum Beethoven.

(plus many others, I studied music history for a buttload of years)

End If Kris · « **Reply #12 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 16:11 »

Quote from: ironoxide887

There's a few composers that I feel strongly about:

I Love
Tchaikovsky
J.S. Bach's Fugues
Ives

I Like
Schoenberg
Berg
Reich
Glass
Cage (Sometimes)
Ravel

I Hate
Chopin
Mozart

How can you hate Chopin? Come on somewere inside that cold cold heart is sombody that loves Grand Polonaise

Misereatur · « **Reply #13 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 16:39 »

Quote from: greenMonkey

I also enjoy Reich and Glass.

I love Rimsky-Korsakov's Scherezade.

Reich is a modern composer. Rimsky-Korsakov is romantic. Beethoven's early works and Mozrt are classical music. Bach and Vivaldi are Baroque composers.

Wait, I'm gonna link a thread about this.
edit: found it http://forums.questionablecontent.net/viewtopic.php?p=306926&highlight=#306926
It was a pretty damn good thread too.

greenMonkey · « **Reply #14 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 18:43 »

I apologize for not being specific. I just subconciously group these people unde the 'classical' tag, because that is the way society has indoctrinated me, most notably public radio for calling everything they play classical.

Actually though, I really should learn more on the subject.

Rubby · « **Reply #15 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 19:40 »

Speaking of old threads. Whatever happened to Bastardous Bassist?

El Opium · « **Reply #16 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 20:20 »

I'm not a huge classical fan, but I do enjoy the odd spot of Arvo Part and early Terry Riley.

The Hammered · « **Reply #17 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 20:34 »

This thread seems a good enough place to post this question in.

Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out which recording of a particular piece to buy? Should I try figuring out which performers I really like and go from there, or should I spend hours looking up information on/reviews of various recordings, or what?

Edit: I second the question about Bastardous Bassist, now that you mention it.

Scytale · « **Reply #18 on:** 11 Aug 2006, 22:44 »

It's probably not strictly classical but I really like

Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen.

Especially "Das Rheingold"

The scope of the music is amazing, so epic and majestic.

elcapitan · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 Aug 2006, 00:41 »

Again, I doubt this really comes under the heading of "classical", but get hold of anything written by Joaquín Rodrigo.

I've just found a CD recording of John Williams playing the Concerto de Aranjuez (among other great pieces) with the Seville Symphony in 1992. I don't care that it's one of the most well-known solo guitar pieces ever - it's also one of the most beautiful.

TrueNeutral · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 Aug 2006, 03:47 »

You know, I actually lump everything done by an orchestra together as classical.

I am such a philistine.

salada · « **Reply #21 on:** 12 Aug 2006, 05:23 »

i went through a big phillip glass phase when i was in year 12. mow i more or less can't stand him. that stupid cyclicism gets under your skin after a while.

listening to a lot of pierre boulez at the moment but i wouldn't call him classical either.

Misereatur · « **Reply #22 on:** 12 Aug 2006, 07:38 »

Quote from: Rubby

Speaking of old threads. Whatever happened to Bastardous Bassist?

He just stoped posting.
His band is still playing conerts so he's still alive, but I have no idea where he is.
He was one of my favorites, too bad he left.

IronOxide · « **Reply #23 on:** 12 Aug 2006, 18:36 »

Quote from: End If Kris

Quote from: ironoxide887
Stuff that I wrote but I don't want to take up way too much space

How can you hate Chopin? Come on somewere inside that cold cold heart is sombody that loves Grand Polonaise

Chopin just bores me, I've just never been able to become exited about one of his works.

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 02:54 »

Quote from: TrueNeutral

You know, I actually lump everything done by an orchestra together as classical.

I am such a philistine.

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TrueNeutral · « **Reply #25 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 04:42 »

No, you see, that was done by a band, but it was BACKED by an orchestra. I was talking Movie Soundtracks an stuff.

Luke C · « **Reply #26 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 06:36 »

Quote from: BeoPuppy

Quote from: TrueNeutral
You know, I actually lump everything done by an orchestra together as classical.

I am such a philistine.

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Yeah baby S&M rules! Best live album since Live in Leeds.

I quite like classical and think it should be utilised more by artists, especially in metal because through some strange irony metal + classical = awesome. On the other hand I hate opera. You get a good/reasonable musical intro then someone ruins it with awful vocals. I suppose it's a bit like emo in that respect.

FeralCats · « **Reply #27 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 07:08 »

I'm not really sure how anyone can write off an entire genre like opera like that. Not every opera is like that.

I like what is considered modern classical music (Satie, Stravinsky, Zappa, Varese, Antheil, Nono, Takemitsu, Webern, Debussy, Ives, it goes on and on and on) Totalist classical music (Gann, Rouse, Ashley) and minimalist classical music (Specifically Riley and La Monte Young. Out of Glass and Reich I prefer Reich, but I don't like most Glass, though he's done some fantastic stuff.)

Kai · « **Reply #28 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 07:16 »

man

fuck Phillip Glass

Misereatur · « **Reply #29 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 07:34 »

You guys, Metallica's S&M is really good. I love it.

Lines · « **Reply #30 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 08:17 »

Quote from: ironoxide887

Chopin just bores me, I've just never been able to become exited about one of his works.

i have to agree with you. i never really liked chopin either.

Quote from: The Hammered

Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out which recording of a particular piece to buy? Should I try figuring out which performers I really like and go from there, or should I spend hours looking up information on/reviews of various recordings, or what?

i would not reccomend looking up reviews. symphonic music (i'm just going to call it that to prevent confusion w/ Classical era music) has just as many differences as popular/mass music does. i'd find a few artists you like, look into them, see who influenced or was influenced by them, and expand like that. like for a while in HS i was obsessed with russian composers, so i looked them all up and found what i did and didn't like. (most of it i did.) but yeah. also...you could look by type of composer, like whether they wrote opera, symphonies, chamber music, choral, etc. etc.

or just ignore that and look at the composers everyone's been listing, because they're all good as well.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #31 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 08:38 »

Glenn Branca, writing a symphony for 100 electric guitatrs is badass, but when you actually manage to make it sound good, then it's genius.

jcknbl · « **Reply #32 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 12:59 »

Dvorak's 9th. Especially if you're a fan of John Williams (I can think of at least three soundtracks derived from this piece alone).

Stifled Dreams · « **Reply #33 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 13:52 »

I don't really dig classical much which is sort of a problem since I play classical oboe, but I really enjoy playing more than the actual music. I really like Holst's Planets, though, and the Brandenburg Concertos. I do a program where I have to attend a whole bunch of classical concerts and then write reviews, and I thought the ones I went to this year were pretty boring for the most part so I bullshitted my reviews. Although the old people I sat next to seemed to think it was funny that I was there alone... I actually saw two pianists adapt Bizet's Jeux d'Enfants and I thought that was pretty sick.

I also am quite partial to Tchaikovsky. I have a friend who is obsessed with um whats-his-name... she always makes me listen to him... Shostakovich and he is pretty cool.

So I guess what I mean is that I like some classical music, but not the nameless stuff I usually hear on the radio. I also don't really know much about it, which is probably pretty obvious.

Lines · « **Reply #34 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 15:55 »

playing it actually is a bit more fun. being in orchestra is one of the few things i miss from high school. i think the best things we played were Holst's Jupiter, Bluebeard (but i forget the composer off the top of my head), and soundtrack music from Pirates of the Carribean and Lord of the Rings.

Lexington, 125 · « **Reply #35 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 15:57 »

Stravinsky

Stockhausen

Stifled Dreams · « **Reply #36 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 16:12 »

We did Jupiter and Pirates of the Carribean in middle school, but we were awful so it doesn't count. I dropped band, actually, due to conflicts and the band instructor at my highschool really wants me back since next year they have one oboe. She keeps being creepy like, "SO YOU WILL JOIN BAND RIGHT?" and she's trying to get all my friends in band to make me join. I'm like, "maybe we'll see!" But it isn't gonna happen.

Inlander · « **Reply #37 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 16:48 »

Quote from: The Hammered

Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out which recording of a particular piece to buy?

Picking up a copy of the Penguin Guide to Compact Discs wouldn't be a bad idea.

Also, I prefer Liszt to Chopin. Everyone go listen to the 6 Consoliations. Hopefully played by a pianist with an understanding of dynamics instead of the usual stupid LISZT MEANS LOUD mentality.

Misereatur · « **Reply #38 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 16:55 »

I really want to start playing classical contra-bass, but if I ever pick up a corntra-bass it'll be for Jazz.

Brian Majestic · « **Reply #39 on:** 13 Aug 2006, 22:01 »

Hector Berlioz's "Symphonie Fantastique" is mighty fine, and totally punk rock - guy offs his woman, takes drugs, goes to hell?

Oh yes.

Misereatur · « **Reply #40 on:** 14 Aug 2006, 03:20 »

Symphonie Fantastique was actually one of the fist symphonies that had a sense of modern composition. If you look at the fifth movment it's pretty avant-grade for when it was written.
Of course Wagner is going to change that in the years to follow.

timehat · « **Reply #41 on:** 14 Aug 2006, 10:32 »

Quote from: Kai

man

fuck Phillip Glass

Oh come on now, he's not all bad.

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #42 on:** 14 Aug 2006, 12:01 »

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned Rachmaninoff yet.

Patrick · « **Reply #43 on:** 14 Aug 2006, 12:18 »

I third the Holst. I might even go so far as to say that he's my favourite composer, although admittedly he's probably the only composer with works I can call out by name. Give me a good brass and reed band and a brilliant string melody and bass line, and you've got me covered.

amok · « **Reply #44 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 07:33 »

Quote from: onewheelwizzard

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned Rachmaninoff yet.

Ack, beaten.

This man invented music. Piano Concerto #3 is the reason the instrument was conceived. Etc.

Inlander · « **Reply #45 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 16:48 »

Quote from: KimJongSick

Give me a good brass and reed band and a brilliant string melody and bass line, and you've got me covered.

You need to listen to Beethoven's 7th Symphony, and fast. The Deutsche Gramophon "Eloquence" imprint has a very good recording, dirt cheap.

*Sights* · « **Reply #46 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 18:27 »

I really like classical music. In fact, classical music was the first kind of music that i was really into, even before "indie rock". That said, i'm no expert and admit my disdain of all the musical jargon.

Some composers:

Holst
Liszt
Satie (Gymnopedie (Gymnopedies?) is genius)
Grieg
Sibelius (can't believe no one has mentioned him, i thought he was pretty known. He's really powerful, if you like the epic stuff at least.)

I haven't heard much of Brahms, but i have his Hungarian Dance on repeat rather often.

And some random pieces here and there, (Debussy's Claire de Lune is godlike) but meh...

This is getting pretentious but has anyone heard of Leos Janacek?

mberan42 · « **Reply #47 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 19:14 »

I really enjoy classical / symphonic / orchestral / etc. music. I don't know much about it, about the eras and composers and all that; I just like it.

Favourites include:
Mozart's Requiem
Grieg - Piano Concerto in A-Minor
Holst - Mars (and Jupiter, to a lesser extent)
Ravel - Bolero
Mussorgsky - The Hut on Fowl's Legs
Orff - Carmina Burana (although it's lost its original luster, due to overuse)
Rachmaninoff - Prelude in C# Minor

I also love the opera, but again, I know next to nothing about it. I've seen Der Rosenkavalier at the Civic Opera here in Chicago.

I really want some dark, stormy opera music, I just don't know where to look.

Inlander · « **Reply #48 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 20:12 »

Quote from: mberan42

I really want some dark, stormy opera music, I just don't know where to look.

Try Elektra by Strauss.

Garcin · « **Reply #49 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 20:29 »

Or you know, Wagner's Götterdämmerung has a few dark and stormy moments. Like when the land of the Gods gets burned to the ground.

Seriously, my best musical experience ever: seeing the Ring Cycle, specifically Götterdämmerung, at the Metropolitan Opera in orchestra seats. (Second best: Sufjan Steven's "Feel the Illinoise" tour.)

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End If Kris

timehat

TrueNeutral

timehat

messynessie

Omnicide

End If Kris

El Opium

The Hammered

Scytale

TrueNeutral

TrueNeutral

jcknbl

Stifled Dreams

Stifled Dreams

timehat

Garcin