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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #150 on: 16 May 2011, 18:51 »

This series keeps getting better. All the invented stuff this week was fantastic except for the Theon one which, even with wang was totally forgettable. Oh and the Aerie was absolutely stunning.

Gregor Clegane is a real bad dude.
Can we get that bearded dude on the right in on some of that face-multiplying meme action?
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #151 on: 16 May 2011, 18:58 »

Is anyone else severely disappointed that Loras is played by a dude that who looks like he can't even lift a broadsword? I mean, whatever, they wanted to amp up the gay, but dang it at least get an actor that looks like a freaking knight and not someone who looks like one good hit would break him in half.

Also that definitely wasn't in the first book. Did not see that coming at all.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #152 on: 16 May 2011, 19:04 »

I was mainly disappointed that he wasn't all covered in flowers. Actually although I'm enjoying the show I'm kind of disappointed that they seem to have toned down the costuming rather. Having only read the book recently I was hoping for more of a pageantry of colours and sigils. It was nice to see all the crimson Lannister cloaks swooping in in the final scene but on the whole everything looks a lot drabber than I was expecting it to. In the last episode where Catelyn was in the inn identifying allies by their house colours and sigils I couldn't help thinking "How does she know? They're all dressed the same."
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #153 on: 16 May 2011, 19:17 »

Yeah, same. I did notice his horse blanket wasn't actually made of flowers. Granted, they didn't show a lot of the joust where the really awesome armor is shown, but I honestly don't know how Catelyn was identifying anybody either because there weren't any sigils in sight. After spending time showing Bran talking about sigils, they could have showed more of them.

I will say though that Lysa is just the right amount of crazy and it was cool to see the Eyrie.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #154 on: 16 May 2011, 19:29 »

Probably the best character introduction Game of Thrones.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #155 on: 16 May 2011, 20:36 »

I loved the looks on Tyrion and Catelyn's faces in that scene.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #156 on: 17 May 2011, 04:13 »

There are like six bearded dudes on the right in that photo. Which one do you mean?
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #157 on: 17 May 2011, 18:03 »

Is anyone else severely disappointed that Loras is played by a dude that who looks like he can't even lift a broadsword? I mean, whatever, they wanted to amp up the gay, but dang it at least get an actor that looks like a freaking knight and not someone who looks like one good hit would break him in half.

Also that definitely wasn't in the first book. Did not see that coming at all.

Neither are POV characters, so there weren't any actual scenes, yet their gayness was implied in the book : http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/mlarchives/faq/lorasrenly.html Spoilers in the Link

Yea, Loras does look quite a bit weak to be a knight.

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #158 on: 18 May 2011, 07:23 »

Neither are POV characters, so there weren't any actual scenes, yet their gayness was implied in the book : http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/mlarchives/faq/lorasrenly.html Spoilers in the Link

Yea, Loras does look quite a bit weak to be a knight.

A lot of those are from the books I haven't read yet. I've only read the first one, which is why this was such a shock to me. Even one of my roommates, who has read all of the books and is the reason the rest of us are watching the show, was surprised because he didn't pick up on it. I mean, the sexuality of the characters doesn't bother me, there are by far worse things going on in the books.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #159 on: 18 May 2011, 12:32 »

I wrote a wiki on Game of thrones. And I didn't pick up on it.

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #160 on: 18 May 2011, 12:41 »

Seriously? I always thought it was pretty overt. There are a ton of references to it if you read carefully.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #161 on: 18 May 2011, 13:34 »

I never found anything to do with Renly interesting enough to start reading carefully. That, and two men spending all their time together means approximately nothing to me, I guess.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #162 on: 19 May 2011, 00:42 »

Yeah, maybe I'm just dense. I see now that it's kind of obvious.

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #163 on: 19 May 2011, 01:15 »

I never found anything to do with Renly interesting enough to start reading carefully. That, and two men spending all their time together means approximately nothing to me, I guess.

Yea, in the book I thought Little Finger was just being a dick when he made the peadophile joke.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #164 on: 26 May 2011, 16:59 »

Wow, this forum has really been preparing for GoT! I feel like quite the Johnny-come-lately.  :psyduck: I'm absolutely loving it, and will read the books when it ends.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #165 on: 27 May 2011, 08:54 »

Wow, this forum has really been preparing for GoT! I feel like quite the Johnny-come-lately.  :psyduck: I'm absolutely loving it, and will read the books when it ends.

Watching the series, I imagine that it would be quite confusing for those who haven't read the books.

Do you find that to be the case?
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #166 on: 27 May 2011, 09:16 »

I am watching it with a few people who haven't read the series, and they don't seem to have a problem with it.

On the other hand, maybe that's because I keep accidentally giving away spoilers.  :psyduck:

The newest episode was badass. Stark is the man.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #167 on: 27 May 2011, 16:26 »

I haven't read any of the books, and the plot so far is really easy to follow. Granted, I can never remember anyone's names, but I always know what's going on.
My only, extremely minor, gripe might be that there is so much going on that a few of the story lines don't get enough screen time.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #168 on: 27 May 2011, 16:42 »

When I was reading the book I'd flick to the appendix every 50 or so pages just to keep up.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #169 on: 27 May 2011, 17:12 »

I have no doubt that's what I'd be doing, but all the characters looks very distinct in the TV series, so it's easy enough to remember what they're all up to.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #170 on: 30 May 2011, 03:40 »

Guys, guys, The Rainbow Guard.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #171 on: 30 May 2011, 03:51 »

Truly, they do get gayer.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #172 on: 06 Jun 2011, 15:07 »

The Arryns continue to make me very uncomfortable.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #173 on: 08 Jun 2011, 01:59 »

Guys, guys, The Rainbow Guard.

Yeah. This show removed any pretense of subtlety from that.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #174 on: 13 Jun 2011, 12:42 »

So did anyone see the shit go down that hadn't yet read the books?
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #175 on: 13 Jun 2011, 18:16 »

Dude who watched it with me and Staedler Mars hadn't rea them yet. He seemed pretty underwhelmed. Sad times.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #176 on: 14 Jun 2011, 02:43 »

He'd read the buzz on the Internet, he knew it was going to happen. *maybe spoiler* Man, I was sitting on the edge of my seat being all "maybe he'll get out of it" even though I knew he wasn't.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #177 on: 14 Jun 2011, 04:36 »

I just watched it, and as I've said earlier, I've not read the books. It was pretty underwhelming. Considering the quality of the series so far, it certainly didn't have the emotional impact I'd have expected it to.
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« Reply #178 on: 14 Jun 2011, 12:19 »

I read the books, and I enjoyed the way it was portrayed.

It wasn't emotional . . it was more . . 'numb'.  Perfect.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #179 on: 14 Jun 2011, 13:27 »

He'd read the buzz on the Internet, he knew it was going to happen. *maybe spoiler* Man, I was sitting on the edge of my seat being all "maybe he'll get out of it" even though I knew he wasn't.

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #180 on: 14 Jun 2011, 13:36 »

It didn't really occur to me that they might have been going for numb. With that in mind, I can understand better why it was the way it was. It still didn't work for me, though. It didn't feel numb to me, it just didn't feel... anything. Which is weird.

Oh well! It's one of maybe two scenes so far in the series which I've found less than spectacular, so can't really complain!
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #181 on: 14 Jun 2011, 18:59 »

Oh well! It's one of maybe two scenes so far in the series which I've found less than spectacular, so can't really complain!

I had the opposite feeling.  I think it's one of the few scenes in the series so far that was absolutely perfect.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #182 on: 14 Jun 2011, 23:30 »

I mean Jesus, they even went so far as to have Sean Bean look like all the blood had drained from his face in shock after Joffrey delivered his verdict.

Gotta admire that kind of attention to detail.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #183 on: 14 Jun 2011, 23:50 »

Emmy worthy.
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« Reply #184 on: 15 Jun 2011, 09:22 »

Emmy worthy.

Peter Dinklage > Sean Bean .

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #185 on: 15 Jun 2011, 10:11 »

Wow, this forum has really been preparing for GoT! I feel like quite the Johnny-come-lately.  :psyduck: I'm absolutely loving it, and will read the books when it ends.

Watching the series, I imagine that it would be quite confusing for those who haven't read the books.

Do you find that to be the case?

Occasionally, because I struggle with fantasy names at the best of times, but it's so engaging that I'm paying avid attention.
Actually, I have begun reading the first book, but still was TOTALLY UNPREPARED FOR WHAT JUST HAPPENED OH LORDY

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #186 on: 15 Jun 2011, 10:13 »

So did anyone see the shit go down that hadn't yet read the books?

There was epic flinch and disbelief from me. Upset, obviously, and excited to see what happens next!
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #187 on: 20 Jun 2011, 05:55 »

Alright, the first season is now officially over - the big budget star will now be seen only in flashbacks, and we now get ready to move to Season 2.

Thoughts on this series so far - I'm finding this to be an excellent drama - true to the books while complying with the demands of this very different medium and the acting has been very good. 

As with the books I'm very invested in two characters and hoping to see more of a third (Jon, Tyrion and Sandor respectively).  And I really want to see what they do with Jamie and Brienne in later seasons.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #188 on: 20 Jun 2011, 05:59 »

Danny's hair survived the fire.

Just sayin'.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #189 on: 20 Jun 2011, 06:08 »

Aw man, did it? That annoys me.

Still haven't seen this one. Oh it's gonna be good.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #190 on: 20 Jun 2011, 08:04 »

Danny's hair survived the fire.

That's because she has hair of the dragon.

No seriously though, I think the whole idea is that she's unburnable. Completely.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #191 on: 20 Jun 2011, 08:38 »

I don't remember her hair being burned off in the book and since she's suposed to be the dragon, I would have been annoyed if it DID burn off.
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« Reply #192 on: 20 Jun 2011, 09:58 »


It does.  She was bald after that point in the book.

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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #193 on: 20 Jun 2011, 10:44 »

If I had read the books I'd probably be raging that her hair remained, but having not read them, I like that her hair didn't get burned. It drives home the point of FUCKING DRAGON.
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #194 on: 20 Jun 2011, 12:30 »

You realise the "Dragon" thing is meant to be metaphorical, right?
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Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
« Reply #195 on: 20 Jun 2011, 12:47 »

I had assumed it is a little more than metaphor, what with the whole "impervious to fire" thing she's got going on.
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« Reply #196 on: 20 Jun 2011, 17:56 »

It's not just a metaphor, it's a fascinating narrative device, as well as 'true' within the fiction. Same as the wolves are narrative extensions of the Stark children (and Jon). It's clearly a metaphor but real as well, if you get my meaning.
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« Reply #197 on: 20 Jun 2011, 18:54 »

Magical Realism? I've only read the first one but I got the distinct impression that the fantastic was only a small shift in reality away. Wargs, dire wolves, dragons, dragons blood, white walkers and winter. I believe the last book is titled A Dream of Spring which is interesting because I only known Westeros to have winters and summers that can last lifetimes.
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« Reply #198 on: 21 Jun 2011, 00:56 »

Good to see that Cersei finds her son as tedious as I do.
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