Topic: The Guitar Topic (Read 2101968 times)

valley_parade · « **Reply #4100 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 06:06 »

I saw Ibanez's 2009 catalog a few weeks back. Every guitar looked the same to me.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #4101 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 06:07 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 02 Apr 2009, 05:00

Building's cheaper, dude.

Shane i have to warn you, Everyone Iv'e talked to about building guitars, even from pre-made parts, has said that there is a good chance it will be just as expensive, at least on your first try. Even with a bunch of bolt-on parts, it's not just an investment of money, but of time and more importantly skill, which may or may not take a few tries to get right. That being said, it still seems like a wholly worthwhile pursuit, and there's a good chance it will come out fine the first try.

on that note, a while ago the TDPRI forums had a $100 telecaster challenge. The rules were simple: make a tele in a month for a hundred dollars or less. Don't count the price of lumber. The results were awesome. here's a good one:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/2009-%24100-tele-challenge/148275-completed-lumbercaster.html

A Wet Helmet · « **Reply #4102 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 08:51 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 02 Apr 2009, 05:00

Building's cheaper, dude.

I have built a lot of guitars, and my average price to build now is about $400 a pop. I could probably shave about a hundred bucks off that if I wanted to, but I'm not an excessively cheap person.

When I first started and was having to buy tools and things... I was up over $600 per instrument.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4103 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 09:31 »

Quote from: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2009, 08:51

When I first started and was having to buy tools and things... I was up over $600 per instrument.

Seeing that the Fenders I'd rather build clones of run about $1000-1200 now, not bad.

Patrick · « **Reply #4104 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 17:07 »

50% off is a bargain no matter which way you slice it.

Fuck me I am glad I bought my Jag before the price increase.

Harun · « **Reply #4105 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 17:25 »

All Ibanez guitar's that have prestige neck's are some of the nicest playing guitars. ever. And the one's made in their custom shop are one of the best guitars ever in terms of versatility - style and tone wise. I think's it's funny that some people just look at the guitar and think THEYALLLOOKTHESAMESHREDSHREDHARMONICSQUEELYDIMISHEDARPEGGIO. Yes, a lot of technically proficient players like to play them - but that's because Ibanezes are great guitars. At least they look more attractive than Steinbergers.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #4106 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 18:42 »

Ibanez make the Jet King.

Ballard · « **Reply #4107 on:** 02 Apr 2009, 20:13 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 02 Apr 2009, 05:00

Also, claiming guitar porn and posting an Ibanez is pretty much like saying you boned a girl, when all you did is pussy out of talking to her, go home and masturbate furiously.

FYP.

Patrick · « **Reply #4108 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 04:16 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 02 Apr 2009, 18:42

Ibanez make the Jet King.

Hitler made the Autobahn. I fail to see the connection.

I (God)WIN.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4109 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 04:59 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 02 Apr 2009, 18:42

Ibanez make the Jet King.

EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, DOVEY. There's a store in Boston that's got a used Jet King for $200, I want it so bad.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #4110 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 05:00 »

Also the Herman Li Sig guitar! Damn thing has a SCALLOPED HAND-GRIP ON THE UPPER HORN.

SCALLOPED

HAND

GRIP

ON

THE

UPPER

HORN

Spluff · « **Reply #4111 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 05:01 »

Quote from: Patrick on 03 Apr 2009, 04:16

Quote from: David_Dovey on 02 Apr 2009, 18:42
Ibanez make the Jet King.

Hitler made the Autobahn. I fail to see the connection.

I (God)WIN.

Incorrect, actually! The first autobahn was created more than a year before Hitler became Chancellor.

Once again, you all falter in the face of the Jet King.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4112 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 06:33 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 03 Apr 2009, 05:00

Also the Herman Li Sig guitar! Damn thing has a SCALLOPED HAND-GRIP ON THE UPPER HORN.

SCALLOPED

HAND

GRIP

ON

THE

UPPER

HORN

Yeah Dovey, it's the most superfluous piece of shit I've ever seen.

Lummer · « **Reply #4113 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 10:16 »

Well, there has to be some sort of tangible connection with the band, so in some bizarre way it makes perfect sense.

Ballard · « **Reply #4114 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 11:27 »

Re: Jet King

You guys were saying?

Patrick · « **Reply #4115 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 13:55 »

Quote from: Spluff on 03 Apr 2009, 05:01

Incorrect, actually! The first autobahn was created more than a year before Hitler became Chancellor.

Once again, you all falter in the face of the Jet King.

I am talking about THE Autobahn, not just highways. There is a difference.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4116 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 15:33 »

Quote from: Ballard on 03 Apr 2009, 11:27

Re: Jet King

You guys were saying?

God damn I want one of those.

Spluff · « **Reply #4117 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 16:17 »

Quote from: Patrick on 03 Apr 2009, 13:55

I am talking about THE Autobahn, not just highways. There is a difference.

The German Autobahns are a series of highways - and the first autobahn was constructed in 1931.

BaneAtvar · « **Reply #4118 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 19:02 »

A f#@$ing Supro reissue.

Add another one to my to-buy list.

- SG '61 Reissue
- Orville By Gibson Goldtop
- Telecaster Custom '62 CIJ
- AIY (Assemble it Yourself) Strat, Telecaster Single - Strat Single - Mini-Humbucker. Some sort of Nashville Strat.
- Ceriatone 18W TMB
- Dr. Z MAZ 18 Jr.
- A decent cab, no Celestion V30s allowed. Probably Golds or Blues (not my cuppa tea).
- Deluxe Memory Man (yeaaah, another one.)
- Fulltone Clydewah
- Eastwood Supro

Sheesh, that's over 5k$ of stuff.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4119 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 19:10 »

Give it a few years and that Gibson will run you five effing k.

BaneAtvar · « **Reply #4120 on:** 03 Apr 2009, 20:01 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 03 Apr 2009, 19:10

Give it a few years and that Gibson will run you five effing k.

Which one? The SG or the Orville?

valley_parade · « **Reply #4121 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 06:19 »

the SG.

I hadn't realized until a few weeks ago how insane Gibson's jacked up their prices lately. I remember when those faded SG Specials went for like $600, they're nearly a grand now.

Patrick · « **Reply #4122 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 11:32 »

Oh fuck my life, how am I going to afford one to mod the shit out of now? God damn it, the electronics were the ONLY THING I did not like and now I can't even get another one to mod.

A Wet Helmet · « **Reply #4123 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 14:15 »

Holy cow.

On a whim --and for no apparent reason-- my wife just brought me home a Peavy EXP signature series guitar. Mahogany body, rosewood fingerboard, and a gorgeous quilt top. Except for the fact that my fingerboard only has an inlay at the 12th fret, it looks just like this one.

I'm not certain that I would have gone and bought one for myself, but holy crap, for essentially randomly selecting me a guitar in a store and hoping I'd like it, it sure does play great.

Headwoünd · « **Reply #4124 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 15:35 »

Your wife, Sir, is ORESUM.

Almost suspiciously oresum, but oresum nonetheless.

And so is Ibanez - bang/buck ratio is nice and I happen to like their style.

Ballard · « **Reply #4125 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 20:40 »

So I was talking to Shane about this.

Someone's offered me a 1993 Olympic White Squier Strat in place of money to give them guitar lessons. I want to take it and mod the shit out of it- possibly turn it into a VOX Teardrop. Ideas?

Radical AC · « **Reply #4126 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 20:53 »

Depends on the quantity of lessons you plan on giving. I'd say 4-6 weeks at half an hour a week for that sounds about right. I'm always down for modding cheap guitars, but I've never really done much body modification to them (and by much I mean any)

Doesn't VOX still sell the teardrop guitar? Does anyone know how they compare to the vintage ones?

And back to that Supro Dual Tone - I know Supro still makes them, would anyone know how they compare to Eastwoods model, and/or to the original Res-o-glass models? I know a new actual Supro runs ~$2000 and the Eastwood is $600.

Ballard · « **Reply #4127 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 21:27 »

VOX doesn't make guitars at all anymore. I think they've reissued the Brian Jones model specifically but I'm not too interested, particularly because Phantom Guitar Works makes great re-issues at a better price.

If I'm gonna get a real VOX Teardrop I'll get a vintage one.

I didn't mean ideas on the value of the guitar. I meant ideas on what I can do with it and whether or not it's worth giving lessons for at all when I can be earning money instead from other people.

Radical AC · « **Reply #4128 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 21:44 »

I was referring to THESE unless I'm mistaken.

I'm not sure to tell you what to do with it unless I know what you want. Personally I'd like to put some Red and Blue LACE pickups in a Strat, or preferably a Tele. Honestly you are probably better off charging for lessons. You are going to be spending more money than the guitar is worth modding it, and not getting any money for the work you would be doing in the mean time.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #4129 on:** 04 Apr 2009, 22:02 »

Eugene, do you have any first-hand experience with Eastwood guitars? I am kind of thinking about getting a Hi-Flier copy someday.

Ballard · « **Reply #4130 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 00:30 »

Matt, the shop I used to work at stocked pretty much their entire line. They all play really well and are solid quality.

Radical AC, yeah those are the ones. The white one at the top is the Brian Jones model and I guess they've put out a few more. "Limited edition replicas" aren't exactly what I'm looking for.

I'll buy vintage for my VOX needs. I was just curious what I can do with that Squier.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4131 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 06:35 »

Quote from: Ballard on 04 Apr 2009, 21:27

VOX doesn't make guitars at all anymore. I think they've reissued the Brian Jones model specifically but I'm not too interested, particularly because Phantom Guitar Works makes great re-issues at a better price.

If I'm gonna get a real VOX Teardrop I'll get a vintage one.

I didn't mean ideas on the value of the guitar. I meant ideas on what I can do with it and whether or not it's worth giving lessons for at all when I can be earning money instead from other people.

Vox actually have two semi-hollow models out now. They're both like $2500, though.

Hat · « **Reply #4132 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 06:54 »

Quote from: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Apr 2009, 05:26

Ibanezes are neat.

Ibanii?

valley_parade · « **Reply #4133 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 07:12 »

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Limited-Run-Eye-Electric-Guitar?sku=527775

Gibson: Never failing to make me go "buh...what? Why the hell?!"

Spluff · « **Reply #4134 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 07:55 »

It looks like the bastard child of an Eastwood and an Ibanez. That said, it's kinda cool.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4135 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 08:09 »

Haha, I was thinking more BC Rich meets Hagstrom.

Lummer · « **Reply #4136 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 08:19 »

My god, that thing is hideous, and not in a good way

Patrick · « **Reply #4137 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 11:24 »

If not for the color of the pickups, the lack of inlays (as Shane pointed out to me on AIM) and the godawful pickguard, I'd really actually love to have one.

I mean, put a white SG-esque pickguard on there (the big kind, not the '61-'63 kind) and some nickel pickup covers and you are pretty much set. I mean really, is it that far from being a Wilshire? If you did what I described, Jack White would probably cream himself.

Ballard · « **Reply #4138 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 11:28 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 05 Apr 2009, 06:35

Vox actually have two semi-hollow models out now. They're both like $2500, though.

Yeah I saw. They're butt ugly.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #4139 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 14:44 »

It's a deformed SG, so what? Gibson just ran out of ideas.

Ballard · « **Reply #4140 on:** 05 Apr 2009, 19:05 »

Better they run out of ideas and put out an ok looking guitar (for some strange reason I dig the red pick-up covers) than run out of ideas and just jack the prices up on all their American-made shit again.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #4141 on:** 06 Apr 2009, 04:14 »

It's also better than their holy (holey?) line. those things are only 70% the original guitar, yet they go for 300 dollars more than the standard explorer.

Ballard · « **Reply #4142 on:** 06 Apr 2009, 08:07 »

Re: Gibson's new ideas, I have to admit, I kind of dig the SG Diablo.

Headwoünd · « **Reply #4143 on:** 06 Apr 2009, 08:55 »

"3-D top"? The nerve of some marketing people... -.-

But it looks really nice. I'd swap the gold hardware with black though.

A Wet Helmet · « **Reply #4144 on:** 07 Apr 2009, 18:21 »

Decisions, decisions...

Alright, my first guitar was an 86 or 87 red-and-white hard tail strat. I played it for awhile, and sometime in 88 or 89 I traded it in for an SG, which I pawned in 91 for tattoo and booze money.

Anyway... those two guitars are my "Damn, I wish I still had that guitar" guitars, and my local shop has a beat-to-hell 84 red and white hard tail strat for sale. I know the mid-eightes are hardly desirable collector years for Fenders, but something about that well played strat makes me wish I still had my first one. Given that I already own a few strats, that I rarely play them, and that it is a CBS-era Fender, I can't decide if I want to go plunk the money down on it or not (especially since I don't much care for the neck profile) But something about it is calling me...

*shrug* Maybe I'll have another strat tomorrow.

If you had a fat grip of cash right now, would you buy an old-but-not-vintage strat? Just curious.

greenMonkey · « **Reply #4145 on:** 07 Apr 2009, 18:41 »

Depends on the cost. I put a stupid amount of money into repairs on my Danelectro reissue because it has sentimental value. I think I payed $180 for the guitar, and I've put almost that amount into it for repairs, etc. If the sentiment is more important than the cash, go for it.

valley_parade · « **Reply #4146 on:** 08 Apr 2009, 05:16 »

Guys my LP Special clone gets here sometime late this week! I am excited.

jeph · « **Reply #4147 on:** 08 Apr 2009, 12:02 »

Oh my goodness you guys MY CRESTON TELE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION:

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/tele-1.jpg[/img]

(the neck rout is big enough for a P-90 but we're putting a mini-humbucker in there, it will all be under a pickguard so it don't matter none)

valley_parade · « **Reply #4148 on:** 08 Apr 2009, 12:05 »

Nice grain on that one, Jeph. What are you doing for a finish?

jeph · « **Reply #4149 on:** 08 Apr 2009, 12:06 »

Just-barely-transparent butterscotch with a black pickguard. Traditional all the way.

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