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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #200 on: 01 Aug 2008, 14:03 »

Come on, the 2 strongest PC gaming genres, American RPGs and FPS are virtually gone from the PC.  RTS and TB Strategies are being targeted (Halo Wars), frankly the last major holdouts is casual games like Bejeweled or Peggle and MMORPGs, and in this day an age of subscription based online play (Xbox live for instance) and DLC, how much longer do you thing that will last.  Call me wrong all you want, but I was there when PC gaming peaked, frankly I was a diehard, but Ive seen the writing on the wall.  As in a few years ago, you know, when PC gaming still had 2 legs to wobble on.  Now its hopping along a peg leg going through its death-roes.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #201 on: 01 Aug 2008, 14:41 »

Man, even at the peak of PC gaming, it didn't compete with consoles.

Right now the only things keeping it alive are Steam, MMOs, and people with too much money for expensive rigs.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #202 on: 01 Aug 2008, 20:37 »

"PC gaming" always seemed like an oxymoron to me, even though that's where it originated. I'm probably the only person in the world who started out playing FPS's on computers and found myself enjoying playing them with a console controller infinitely more. I don't know why I don't have a problem with sitting in front of a TV playing, but sitting on a chair in front of a computer for hours to play a video game drives me fucking insane. I can't stand it.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #203 on: 02 Aug 2008, 06:19 »

Different strokes and all that. I prefer to be able to mod a game. I'm currently (not right this second currently, but you get the picture) playing STALKER with the Oblivion Lost mod. I found a metamod for that that adds a bolt-action rifle, and I'm having more fun with that than the stock game.

I think that mods are simultaneously the biggest draw and biggest killer of PC games for exactly the same reason:. With a good deal of support, you can be happy with the same game for way longer than the actual gameplay would allow. This would let people play just the original Half-Life for five years, and not need to touch anything else. Having one game feel fresh 5 years afterwards because someone made an awesome Total Conversion as a college thesis (Poke646), solid win.

This does jack for new game sales, though.

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #204 on: 02 Aug 2008, 07:50 »

I completely agree with Stryc9Fuego on mods. They add incredible amounts of playability to games, keeping your interest in them far longer than normally. For example, I have found some excellent mods to Oblivion and Civ4, both of which made me once more interested in those games for months.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #205 on: 02 Aug 2008, 11:33 »

Different strokes and all that. I prefer to be able to mod a game. I'm currently (not right this second currently, but you get the picture) playing STALKER with the Oblivion Lost mod. I found a metamod for that that adds a bolt-action rifle, and I'm having more fun with that than the stock game.

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #206 on: 17 Aug 2008, 12:22 »

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #207 on: 17 Aug 2008, 12:41 »

I admit I pre-ordered this game.  I admit it will probably be "pretty good" at best because, well, Bethesda.  I still hope it will at least be engaging in the ways that the Elder Scrolls games wanted to be and failed badly at.

If it sucks, well, there's always Dragon Age.  From what I've seen, that looks like a truly fucking awesome game (it's the "spiritual successor" to Baldur's Gate).
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #208 on: 17 Aug 2008, 13:17 »

I have to say, I'm not looking forward to this game as "Fallout 3"

I'm looking forward to an Elder Scrolls game with quicker-paced combat and a much, much better mythology and setting than Cyrodiil was.

So, I guess in terms of Fallout nerdery, I'm a heathen.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #209 on: 17 Aug 2008, 19:01 »

Like I've said before, I'd find it a lot easier to get excited about Dragon Age if we knew anything at all about how it plays. The only gameplay detail I think I've heard at all about Dragon Age is that the party size is 4 instead of the 6 from Baldur's Gate.

At least Bioware mentioned that it's coming to consoles eventually, so I don't need to worry about not being able to play it if it can't run on my laptop.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #210 on: 17 Aug 2008, 22:30 »

I'm just happy that Fallout 3 has finally been approved for Australian release (pending the change of  the drug names to fictional drug names). I really liked Morrowind and I also really enjoy playing Oblivion so I will probably like Fallout 3 as I've got a reasonable amount of respect for Bethesda since they tend to make games I like.

Hooray!
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #211 on: 17 Aug 2008, 22:31 »

RE: Dragon Age.  This month's Game Informer quotes it as having three "playthrough styles" instead of just "good" or "evil".  They are described as "hero, tyrant, and martyr".  That alone sounds really interesting, especially the martyr option.  And it is a damn good thing it's coming to consoles indeed.

RE: "Fallout 3".  It would be very hard to make a game with a LESS interesting mythology than Oblivion, so.  They have a lot to work with instead of just, how did Yahtzee put it, "re-creating one square mile of English countryside and copy-pasting it a hundred times"?
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #212 on: 17 Aug 2008, 23:01 »

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #213 on: 18 Aug 2008, 12:08 »

Seriously why is Australia so batshit insane when it comes to video games?
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« Reply #214 on: 18 Aug 2008, 13:03 »

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #215 on: 20 Aug 2008, 13:14 »

Fallout 3's been dated for October 28, 31 in Europe.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #216 on: 20 Aug 2008, 19:45 »

3 days after my birthday! This is one of the games I'm really looking forward to, so I'm glad that they managed to hit their release window, unlike Oblivion. I wonder if they just managed to get enough work done on the game to the point where they were able to give a solid release window when they announced the game a year ago or whenever it was.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #217 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:21 »

Bethesda claimed to have gotten all their content implemented before E3, so all the time since then and all the time up until the first week of October or so has been devoted to polish and QA. I still wouldn't rule out the possibility of more delays, though.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #218 on: 21 Aug 2008, 00:26 »

Considering they've already delayed it like 20 christing times, I'll believe the game is out when I am holding it in my hands.

Fuck, it better be good.  I say that not as a Fallout fanboy (though I am, probably due in part to playing Wasteland when it came out and thinking it was THE BEST THING OF ALL TIME) but as someone who has an old computer and wants a good, expansive RPG for my shiny PS3 whose current job is "play movies, GTA4, and look pretty while my owner plays through PS2 games that he missed out on when he didn't own one (holy crap God of War is actually as good as people say, ditto for FF12)".

Plus, there's something inherently appealing about playing an immersive RPG while relaxing in an armchair using just a controller, not sitting at a computer getting carpal tunnel from mouse-clicking.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #219 on: 21 Aug 2008, 01:12 »

Except it hasn't been delayed, ever. They announced it for Fall 2008 back... last summer, I think? I'm pretty sure it was an E3 2007 announcement. October is in fact, Fall of 2008.
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« Reply #220 on: 21 Aug 2008, 01:17 »

What I mean is that the release date they have given retailers has changed many times.  I know that Gamestop, at least, had been told August at one point, and when I reserved it was told "September 8", and now it's apparently October 28.  I mean, I hope that an "official" announcement will stick, I'm just sayin'.  I'm skeptical.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #221 on: 21 Aug 2008, 02:36 »

I've never trusted a release date until I hear the word "gold" mentioned. Beyond that, it's a crapshoot.
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« Reply #222 on: 21 Aug 2008, 08:52 »

Why would you be angry at a company because GameStop was guessing at a release date? GameStop does that all the time when companies give general timeframe for release (because they suck ass). Bethesda never gave a release date to anyone ever until now.
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« Reply #223 on: 21 Aug 2008, 09:29 »

Yeah, that date never comes from the company itself, it's just Gamestop guesswork and bullshitting.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #224 on: 21 Aug 2008, 11:51 »

Why would you be angry at a company because GameStop was guessing at a release date? GameStop does that all the time when companies give general timeframe for release (because they suck ass).

Really?  This must be a fairly recent practice, because never before this have they told me an incorrect release date.  Then again, it's been a while since I reserved a game, so.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #225 on: 21 Aug 2008, 12:11 »

I assure you, as time goes on, GameStop does nothing but get shadier and shittier.
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« Reply #226 on: 21 Aug 2008, 13:51 »

I assure you, as time goes on, GameStop does nothing but get shadier and shittier.


Seriously.  They were taking Halo 3 pre-orders after the first teaser was out.
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« Reply #227 on: 21 Aug 2008, 15:15 »

Actually, I was reading an article about how GameStop does so many preorders for games that don't have solid release dates if they have one at all that they end up making lots and lots of money off of unclaimed orders. People put their money down, the game gets delayed (or GameStop didn't have a real release date) and eventually people just forget that they made a pre-order for that game and go buy it elsewhere, ultimately giving GameStop their money for absolutely no reason.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #228 on: 21 Aug 2008, 15:34 »

Is it really worth it though? I thought pre-orders were $5. It all adds up, I guess.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #229 on: 21 Aug 2008, 15:41 »

Hell i pre-ordered it today, then realized I had no idea when this goddamn game was coming out. Luckily, I save my muthafuckin' receipts and this is the only place I go to for console games, so they won't be dicking me out of extra money. Now to go pre-order Spore from Amazon...
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« Reply #230 on: 21 Aug 2008, 15:56 »

Is it really worth it though? I thought pre-orders were $5. It all adds up, I guess.
Man, I pre-ordered Fallout 3 a second time just because I was in desperate need of a bottle opener.

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #231 on: 21 Aug 2008, 16:09 »

i pre-ordered mine quite a while ago, if i'm not mistaken. but then again everyone at my Gamestop knows me by now and they almost always call you the day before your game comes out to remind you.
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« Reply #232 on: 26 Aug 2008, 04:52 »

I'm going the Amazon route when it comes out.

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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #233 on: 26 Aug 2008, 15:57 »

I recently got myself a 360 and I think this is going to be my first not secondhand purchase. I enjoy the gameplay of oblivion a lot and hopefully the post-apocalyptic setting will be turn out to be really interesting and, fingers crossed, the countryside will have more variety. Plus it'll be nice to be able to use ranged weapons that aren't a huge crock of shit like in oblivion.
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« Reply #234 on: 29 Aug 2008, 13:19 »

5 new videos showing off all sorts of really cool shit (sneaking live grenades into someone's pants, a mechanical boxing glove that seperates heads from bodies, the lockpicking/hacking systems, the detonation of Megaton, etc.)
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« Reply #235 on: 04 Sep 2008, 13:01 »

I played F2 before F1 and going "back" was awful.
I love F2, I tolerate F1.

And once you sit through the temple without putting all your skill points and tags on melee weapons, it gets better.
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« Reply #236 on: 04 Sep 2008, 19:04 »

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« Reply #237 on: 06 Sep 2008, 00:20 »

(sneaking live grenades into someone's pants)

Game of the Year.

Fallout 2 was pretty great, yeah.
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« Reply #238 on: 06 Sep 2008, 01:20 »

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Game of the Year.

Fallout HURF was pretty DURF, yeah.
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« Reply #239 on: 21 Sep 2008, 20:52 »

There's a new site up that's got some interesting stuff.  My favorite channels are 8 and 10.
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« Reply #240 on: 25 Sep 2008, 22:37 »

hey the original Fallout is now availabe for free on Gametap! i just created a free account and it's downloading now, yay!!!

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« Reply #241 on: 25 Sep 2008, 23:29 »

I leeched my copy. I feel bad about it, but I got my just desserts when it infected my PC with a rootkit.

I think I'm looking for some of the same things in Fallout 3 that I am in STALKER Clear Skies: atmosphere, post-apocalyptic wasteland... Russians...
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« Reply #242 on: 26 Sep 2008, 02:33 »

I tried to play Fallout after first hearing about Fallout 3... I'm way too ADD for turn-based combat anymore. This makes me more than a little sad.

EDIT: I was just watching the demo videos for Fallout 3, and I'd swear that the dude who does the voice for Mister Burke did the voice for Lucien Lachance in Oblivion.

Here's the Megaton video... see if you notice it, too.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #243 on: 01 Oct 2008, 15:27 »

Interesting tidbit I found out from a recent preview: Malcom McDowell voices the President, and there is a radio station that your Pip Boy can pick up that is essentially just him spouting tons of jingoistic propaganda.
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« Reply #244 on: 01 Oct 2008, 15:38 »

There's a lengthy new preview up on Kotaku about the differences between Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

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« Reply #245 on: 01 Oct 2008, 19:29 »

As a whiner, I feel it is my duty to point out that he has clearly missed the point of Fallout (which makes sense, because by his own admission he has never played it). The things he linked to Fallout were how it's "semi turn based" with AP, and the karma system. Those two things sucked in Fallout. Fallout was great despite these things, not because of it.

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« Reply #246 on: 01 Oct 2008, 19:33 »

I liked the combat in Fallout, douche. Let's have a fight.
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« Reply #247 on: 01 Oct 2008, 19:39 »

It'd be a lot easier for me to be rational about these things if I didn't find Oblivion so god damn boring.

Also, yeah, I kinda like turn based combat. I wouldn't want every game to be turn based, but I like to keep a few turn based games in my back pocket.
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« Reply #248 on: 01 Oct 2008, 19:41 »

I liked the combat in Fallout, douche. Let's have a fight.

So did I, you bastard.

But I only really liked the targeting system and the death animations. The rest was dated even when Fallout 2 came out, let alone now. It wasn't unbearable, but it didn't make the game better.
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Re: Fallout 3
« Reply #249 on: 09 Oct 2008, 13:31 »

Just a heads up, Fallout 3 has gone gold, and has also hit the internets.
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