Topic: Warner Brothers set to make new Akira (Read 26588 times)

De_El · « **on:** 21 Feb 2008, 15:17 »

http://www.moviemake-out.com/2008/02/20/warner-bros-set-to-make-akira-two-parter/

So, you know, general apprehension, plus a little weeping. Could it be good? Who the hell knows. I've been told those short films the director did were good, but I haven't yet time to watch them myself. I'm pretty sure relocating it to "New Manhattan" is unnecessary and stupid, but hey, that's Hollywood.

Beast · « **Reply #1 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 15:24 »

It's live action, so if they do it right, it could be incredible. The original was awesome. Really scary plot. I hope the new one is horrifying.

Faker · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 16:12 »

I haven't seen the original film nor read the comics, its something I've had on my "to do" list for quite some time. I really better check them out before this comes out a taints my perception of them

bryanthelion · « **Reply #3 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 16:33 »

I smell evil, corruption, and a really crappy movie!

Couldn't they just make a sequel to AKIRA in anime form?

KvP · « **Reply #4 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 17:09 »

They did. It was called Elfin Lied, and it fucking sucked.*

*note that it wasn't an actual sequel, but a different series that just happened to be similar.

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #5 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 17:48 »

Uhm. I don't know how I feel about this one. Akira is so fucking good. I think Warner Brothers could only total it.

Plus, I think with America's simple-minded society, it would be dumbed down, and then people who have never seen the original movie, or read the mangas would be less appreciative.

On the other hand...How bad-ass would a well-done live-action Akira movie be?!

Ozymandias · « **Reply #6 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 18:07 »

Quote from: De_El on 21 Feb 2008, 15:17

Warner Brothers set to ruin everything forever

De_El · « **Reply #7 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 18:09 »

Oh they've already done that. It's just that the extent of the ruin is revealed slowly.

Calaveth · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 04:10 »

This can't end well.

New Manhattan? WTF over?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 04:59 »

Possible upsides:

1) two films would allow them an adaptation of the manga plot that actually makes sense.
2) splosions

Definite downsides:

1) To make an adaptation of the manga plot that makes sense would require masses of metaphysical meanderings about the nature of time, consciousness, entropy etc. that they won't include.
2) The morphing effects will look shit. Can you imagine seeing someone turn into a giant mutant cyber-baby via CGI? Yeah, precisely.
3) They will hire Linkin Park to do the soundtrack.
4) It will suck.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 05:27 »

That is my anime geek inside me. He is cutting his wrists right now. I love the original Akira movie. I really hope it doesn't turn into some Shonen-Jump shitfest (save for a couple).

Muskrat121 · « **Reply #11 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 06:24 »

It's really hard not to get excited about the prospect of a live action Akira.

But it is also hard not to be aprehensive. If they're setting it in a different city, I shutter to think of what else they'd change. They'd probably do something stupid, like change the names and "Americanize" it to get all the teeny bopers interested.

Khar made a good point though...they probably will get Linkin Park to do the soundtrack...

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #12 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 09:31 »

Wow, this project's moving along fast! They just released the cast list:

Kaneda - Laurence Olivier_tm (CG-composited from unused footage from Spartacus, Marathon Man and The Boys From Brazil)
Tetsuo - Michael Cera
Kei - Judi Dench
Ryu - Martin Lawrence
The Colonel - Andre 3000
The Doctor - Mike Myers (highland scottish accent)
Akira - Mike Myers (glasgow accent + fat suit)
Old Kid #25 - Whoopi Goldberg
Old Kid #26 - Bobcat Goldthwait
Old Kid #27 - Tom Sizemore
Bartender - Ryan Reynolds (with CG abs)
Yama - Mo'Nique
Kai - Queen Latifah

Joel Silver is attached as producer (he says Alan Moore loves the script!!!) and Paul W.S. Anderson will be directing.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #13 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 09:39 »

Micheal Cera as Tetsuo???

"Uh, hi. Do you mind if I like, try to break out of this place? There's something weird with my head and- OH JESUS I BLEW THEM UP WITH MY MIND."

Ozymandias · « **Reply #14 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 10:26 »

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 22 Feb 2008, 09:31

Oh GOD

You're a bad man.

0bsessions · « **Reply #15 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 10:30 »

It's good being the only person I know who thought the Akira anime was an absolute load of shit to begin with. I don't have to cry over this.

singeivoire · « **Reply #16 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 10:44 »

I'm with you, I never did figure out what was so awe inspiring about the film. The first time I saw it, I realized about 2/3 of the way through that I had NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.

And then I stopped watching.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #17 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 11:16 »

yeah, i don't really care if hollywood ruins this. i mean, i'll be kind of bummed because i did enjoy Akira but it wasn't amazing or anything.

as long as hollywood doesn't try to make Ghost In The Shell, i don't really give a shit.

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 11:19 »

So many nay-sayers. Akira is pretty fucking awesome. It's just more-so if you bothered with the mangas at all.

Plus, it takes a few watches to completely understand.

0bsessions · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 11:59 »

I HATE that mentality. If something needs to be watched more than once to be understood, whoever made it fucked up.

bryanthelion · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 12:05 »

I like that mentality actually. It makes the movie more re-watchable.

0bsessions · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 12:16 »

I think you're mixing up the difference between "need to watch it more than once" and "is enjoyable upon repeated viewings."

There is no upside to a movie being so inpenetrable that you either need to watch it repeatedly or delve into another source material to enjoy. That is, bluntly speaking, the mark of a shitty movie.

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #22 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 12:45 »

Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 11:59

I HATE that mentality. If something needs to be watched more than once to be understood, whoever made it fucked up.

...Or you just didn't understand.

singeivoire · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 13:08 »

I think what bugged me was that I didn't understand the movie, and I didn't care.

Usually, I'm cool with incomprehensible films - hurrah for ambiguity and all that. With Akira, though, I didn't get it, and I didn't have the slightest desire to dig deeper into the world in order to figure it out. I didn't find it compelling or even coherent.

It just wasn't my thing. Good animation, though.

0bsessions · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 13:24 »

Quote from: BootsyMarie on 22 Feb 2008, 12:45

...Or you just didn't understand.

Apparently, neither did you...

Quote from: BootsyMarie on 22 Feb 2008, 11:19

Plus, it takes a few watches to completely understand.

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 15:39 »

Quote from: Ozymandias on 22 Feb 2008, 10:26

You're a bad man.

What I am is bad at being a bad man. In retrospect, my post doesn't quite cut to the core of the despicable, soulless Hollywood remake trend as I had hoped it would---because goddamnit now I want to see Michael Cera as Tetsuo and all the supporting characters as sassy black ladies. I didn't realize it but I pretty much wrote out the cast of my dream movie.

Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 12:16

I think you're mixing up the difference between "need to watch it more than once" and "is enjoyable upon repeated viewings."

There is no upside to a movie being so inpenetrable that you either need to watch it repeatedly or delve into another source material to enjoy. That is, bluntly speaking, the mark of a shitty movie.

Hallelujah! I think there are grey areas accommodating movies that, if not completely clear the first time around, are at least entertaining, and the re-watching is not so much a chore as an extension of the entertainment. Something like Memento, maybe. But yeah, if enjoying something is contingent upon thoroughly decoding it... well, fuck that shit.

Alex C · « **Reply #26 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 15:47 »

Actually, as far as th

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 22 Feb 2008, 09:31

Wow, this project's moving along fast! They just released the cast list:

Kaneda - Laurence Olivier_tm (CG-composited from unused footage from Spartacus, Marathon Man and The Boys From Brazil)
Tetsuo - Michael Cera
Kei - Judi Dench
Ryu - Martin Lawrence
The Colonel - Andre 3000
The Doctor - Mike Myers (highland scottish accent)
Akira - Mike Myers (glasgow accent + fat suit)
Old Kid #25 - Whoopi Goldberg
Old Kid #26 - Bobcat Goldthwait
Old Kid #27 - Tom Sizemore
Bartender - Ryan Reynolds (with CG abs)
Yama - Mo'Nique
Kai - Queen Latifah

Joel Silver is attached as producer (he says Alan Moore loves the script!!!) and Paul W.S. Anderson will be directing.

WTF? Michael Cera? They couldn't go the extra mile and get Shia LaBeouf!?

0bsessions · « **Reply #27 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 16:28 »

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 22 Feb 2008, 15:39

Hallelujah! I think there are grey areas accommodating movies that, if not completely clear the first time around, are at least entertaining, and the re-watching is not so much a chore as an extension of the entertainment. Something like Memento, maybe. But yeah, if enjoying something is contingent upon thoroughly decoding it... well, fuck that shit.

Precisely. A movie shouldn't require multiple viewings to get one's value out of it. If I rent a 2 1/2 hour movie, I want to invest 2 1/2 hours into it, not 5 to 7 1/2 hours. If I want something that requires a deep and analytical process, I will read a book. I don't mind being made to think, but watching a movie shouldn't feel like work.

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #28 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 16:46 »

Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 13:24

Quote from: BootsyMarie on 22 Feb 2008, 12:45
...Or you just didn't understand.

Apparently, neither did you...

Quote from: BootsyMarie on 22 Feb 2008, 11:19
Plus, it takes a few watches to completely understand.

Yeah. I still think it was amazing. I just hate it when people write stuff off as shit because they didn't understand it.

0bsessions · « **Reply #29 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 17:18 »

I didn't write it off as shit because I didn't understand it. I've sat through it on three separate occasions at the urging of friends who liked it. I still thought it was overrated shit. Now, care to keep your presumptions to yourself and just take me at my word that I did not care for the film?

KvP · « **Reply #30 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 17:19 »

I thought Akira the film was a pile of wank, but I'm assured by friends that the manga actually makes sense because of the benefit of added length.

0bsessions · « **Reply #31 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 17:23 »

Such is generally the case with a lot of anime. This is probably why I typically hate anime.

bryanthelion · « **Reply #32 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 18:02 »

I understood it after like, 2 watchings.

Alex C · « **Reply #33 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 18:10 »

I like the visuals, but overall I agree with Kid van Pervert. The Akira film (haven't read the manga) comes across as a picture that can't decide if it wants to be about the background setting and metaphysics or about character development, and hence fails to adequately address either. I think it could benefit from having some of the metaphysical themes and background information stripped away so it can be reduced to more of a sci-fi character study of Kaneda and Tetsuo's apparently tense relationship and the impact it has on their eventual conflict. I realize that the manga purists would likely jump down my throat for wanting to dumb the film down, (which is true, even if I do view it through rose colored glasses and think of it as more of a salvage attempt) but I really do think the movie's too damn long for its own good yet apparently too short to do the all of the manga's themes justice, so why even try to cram in shit like the Colonel's coup when there's already an awful lot going on in the movie?

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #34 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 18:21 »

Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 17:18

I didn't write it off as shit because I didn't understand it. I've sat through it on three separate occasions at the urging of friends who liked it. I still thought it was overrated shit. Now, care to keep your presumptions to yourself and just take me at my word that I did not care for the film?

you said "neither did you" before. you agreed with me. and now take it back for the sake of argument.

for the sake of assholery, i'm going to have to say i really dont give a shit whether or not you enjoyed it.

just that taking shit sucks worse than dishing it out?

=p

Johnny C · « **Reply #35 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 19:02 »

Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 12:16

There is no upside to a movie being so impenetrable that you either need to watch it repeatedly or delve into another source material to enjoy. That is, bluntly speaking, the mark of a shitty movie.

Not a big Lynch fan, I wager?

0bsessions · « **Reply #36 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 19:10 »

Ah, fuck it. I ain't gonna bother arguing with a troll.

Quote from: Johnny C on 22 Feb 2008, 19:02

Not a big Lynch fan, I wager?

I can't honestly say I'm sure what you're referring to, so clearly not. I just find it to be hard to justify a movie being good if it can't be enjoyable the first time you watch it. If I don't like a movie the first time through, why would I go back to it?

Alex C · « **Reply #37 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 19:14 »

David Lynch; Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks, Eraserhead etc.

And uh, Dune.

Let's not talk about Dune.

bryanthelion · « **Reply #38 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 19:29 »

Quote from: BootsyMarie on 22 Feb 2008, 18:21

Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 17:18
I didn't write it off as shit because I didn't understand it. I've sat through it on three separate occasions at the urging of friends who liked it. I still thought it was overrated shit. Now, care to keep your presumptions to yourself and just take me at my word that I did not care for the film?

you said "neither did you" before. you agreed with me. and now take it back for the sake of argument.

for the sake of assholery, i'm going to have to say i really dont give a shit whether or not you enjoyed it.

just that taking shit sucks worse than dishing it out?

=p

If you dont care about Obsession's post (Which you should, because he's a great poster) then leave!
I just find it hilarious how you put it into your head that, just because someone doesn't like the movie, means that he didn't get it.

With the maturity and intellectual levels of your posts, I'm surprised YOU get it.

Lines · « **Reply #39 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 19:32 »

Boosty, stop being a jerk when someone disagrees with you. Akira is one of those films you either get or you don't. I didn't get it. Jon didn't get it. Hooray for you for being able to watch it multiple times and finally being able to understand it. Some people don't want to do that. Get over it.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #40 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 19:43 »

I watched Akira a while ago and I honestly wasn't very impressed. I don't mind some anime and I'm a big sci-fi nerd but it just really wasn't interesting. All this talk of people not "getting it" is pretty irrelevant. I don't think the filmmakers "got it" in the first place. I haven't read the manga and I don't plan to but I really hope it is better than that awful and pretentious film. It tried to be the kind of film you have to watch more than once to understand. It, to me, was genuinly boring. I couldn't even pretend to like it and the point of me watching it was that I was trying to bed a certain lady who thought it was the best film ever.

If I have learned anything from Akira it is that if I have to watch it to sleep with you, I should just assume that you are a crap shag.

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #41 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:19 »

Quote from: bryanthelion on 22 Feb 2008, 19:29

Quote from: BootsyMarie on 22 Feb 2008, 18:21
Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 Feb 2008, 17:18
I didn't write it off as shit because I didn't understand it. I've sat through it on three separate occasions at the urging of friends who liked it. I still thought it was overrated shit. Now, care to keep your presumptions to yourself and just take me at my word that I did not care for the film?

you said "neither did you" before. you agreed with me. and now take it back for the sake of argument.

for the sake of assholery, i'm going to have to say i really dont give a shit whether or not you enjoyed it.

just that taking shit sucks worse than dishing it out?

=p

If you dont care about Obsession's post (Which you should, because he's a great poster) then leave!
I just find it hilarious how you put it into your head that, just because someone doesn't like the movie, means that he didn't get it.

With the maturity and intellectual levels of your posts, I'm surprised YOU get it.

Did you miss my point? I was trying to say that REGARDLESS of what asshole thought of the movie, I was going to be a dick about it. Pay attention.

Furthermore, he has said MULTIPLE TIMES that he did not get the movie the first time! PAY ATTENTION!

This is the most frustrating thing ever! Everybody jumps the fuck in and starts getting all presumptuous, and misinterprets everything I say. You fuckers wanna talk about maturity? Talk about the guy who has to fucking call me a troll because he can't present a reasonable argument.

One fucking comment and dickhead is all over it like white on rice.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #42 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:36 »

Actually you haven't really presented a great argument yourself. I'm really unclear what you are trying to say. Here is what I've managed to glean, am I right?

You're disregarding 0bessions' opinions and going to act like a fuckwit.

You think 0bsessions said that he doesn't like Akira because he doesn't get it whereas he actually said that he doesn't like it because he doesn't like movies that have to be watched multiple times before they are enjoyable.

Seriously is that what you are saying?

bryanthelion · « **Reply #43 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:36 »

Go away marie, just... go.

You are the Omarosa to my Piers.

0bsessions · « **Reply #44 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:39 »

Wow. If that's the PG-13 cut, I really don't wanna know what was said BEFORE the edit.

Edit: As a side note, don't even bother, guys. Really, she's clearly not about making friends and playing into this slippery slope is only going to make us all look bad.

What I'm trying to say is: be excellent.

BootsyMarie · « **Reply #45 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:40 »

Quote from: JimmytheSquid on 22 Feb 2008, 20:36

Actually you haven't really presented a great argument yourself. I'm really unclear what you are trying to say. Here is what I've managed to glean, am I right?

You're disregarding 0bessions' opinions and going to act like a fuckwit.

You think 0bsessions said that he doesn't like Akira because he doesn't get it whereas he actually said that he doesn't like it because he doesn't like movies that have to be watched multiple times before they are enjoyable.

Seriously is that what you are saying?

Reread the conversation a couple times.

Anywho. You know you're all pretty capable of having a casual conversation but every time I go to say something that fucking prick has something smart to say, so yes. I am going to be very much of an immature asshole back. However, I don't see why it should hinder the main conversation, as it was a sub-argument and a personal bias against a specific user.

bryanthelion · « **Reply #46 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:41 »

Personal bias no good.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #47 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:41 »

Ok cool, I was curious.

Inlander · « **Reply #48 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:45 »

EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

I don't care if you think someone's made a weak argument. I don't care if you think they're stupid. I don't care if you think their opinion is wrong. None of these things are excuses to act like dickheads. If you feel it's your prerogative to jump down somebody's throat because you've decided you don't like them very much, then get the hell out of this forum until you've learned how to behave like a mature and sensible human being. There is nothing in this thread that has warranted the kind of abuse that's flying around. By all means, disagree with people and debate and discuss things with them, but do so in a helpful and constructive manner. Otherwise you're just another bastard slowly suffocating the forum in a rising tide of arseholery.

If you're going to act like children, I'm going to have to treat you like children: give me ten posts, consecutive, in this thread that don't contain even a skerrick of personal abuse of your fellow forumites, or I'm going to lock this fucker down.

EDIT: Jimmy, because you posted while I was writing this, thanks for being chill, bro!

0bsessions · « **Reply #49 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 20:46 »

That was SUPPOSED to be a PM to Harry. Blah!

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