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[celticgeek]

Yes, Verdi's Aida is truly wonderful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aida

[Emily]

Lloyd-Webber is a dick for many reasons but foremost among these is that he is writing a sequel musical for Phantom based on a certain book by Frederick Forsyth which is, in turn, based on HIS OWN MUSICAL. Forsyth spends most of the preface taking a royal shit on Leroux for getting it wrong in the original book and the rest of the author's notes are spent kissing ALW's ass. This musical sequel is to be known as "The Phantom of Manhattan." Or as I and several people I know like to think of it "The Phantom of the Opera 2: The Search for More Money."

I, uh, buh...WHA?! Is this really true? Sadly, I've read the "sequel"--and it's worth about as much as a pile of shit. If he really is making a musical out of it, he must want to deliberately bury his career once and for all.

His kitten, Otto, pounced on his electric keyboard and erased half of the composition and became my hero for a short while. Then Otto got hit by a car and died. I'm of the opinion that this wasn't an accident and Lloyd-Webber orchestrated the whole thing in revenge.

And it is TOTALLY for more money. And to draw in the phanbrat 13 year old girl-monsters they created with the movie. They can't accept that Erik DIES a VIRGIN in the end, so they have to bring him back so he can whore it up with the girl who left him for the man she really loved but then apparently she doesn't love him because she's having the Phantom's baby...and my heart is so broken by all of this.

[Patrick]

Erik DIES a VIRGIN

Poor, poor Vergy.

[Emily]

I figure he deserves it because he's a psychotic killer.
Then again, maybe it's just the blue balls making him a psychotic killer.
Vicious cycles...

[Orbert]

The Blues Brothers contains multiple scenes where people start singing and dancing almost at random, as well as scenes where you might actually expect music to be playing (gigs and so forth). I'd definitely have it down as a musical.

Oh definitely.  It's just that I think of it as a Comedy.  That doesn't exclude it from the Musical category, it's just not what I think of first.

Damn genre confusion!

[jill the ripper]

I've been listening to the soundtrack for Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Tim Curry. <3


Which is sort of a musical.
But not in the Dean Martin/Frank Sinatra way.
IN THE TIM CURRY WAY. :]
Is that how you spell his name?

(antici----pation!)

[shortystylee]

>jill the ripper:

Yup, thats how his name is spelled.

I also <3 Tim Curry in RHPS, except now everytime that I see Tim Curry or hear his voice (from the clown in Stephen King's It to the voice of the dad on Nickelodeon's The Wild Thornberry's) it makes me think of that role played by Frank-n-furter, and then I giggle alot. ALOT.

[supersheep]

glen hansard can suck some dicks

[jimbunny]

Someone mentioned Bollywood.

LAGAAN.

All 3 hours and 40 minutes of it.

Although, I've watched it three times and I still don't understand cricket.

[Emily]

I have heard so much about Lagaan and can't track down a rentable copy anywhere I've been. Maybe my video store just sucks.

Also: Mamma Mia!, anyone? I am so ready to see Meryl Streep do Dancing Queen, you have no idea.

[jill the ripper]

That is the beauty of netlfix.

I also lovelovelove the musical version of Auntie Mame.
Hell, I love any version of Auntie Mame/

[Patrick]

Although, I've watched it three times and I still don't understand cricket.

You could watch a fucking year-long video seminar on the rules of cricket and not understand it. It is a ridiculous sport. Real sports don't involve 3-day tea breaks.

[Liz]

Also: Mamma Mia!, anyone? I am so ready to see Meryl Streep do Dancing Queen, you have no idea.

I saw this in NYC. I dislike ABBA a lot. I was not having a very good time.

[Emily]

I also lovelovelove the musical version of Auntie Mame.
Hell, I love any version of Auntie Mame/

Ever seen Connie & Carla? Mame makes recurring appearances in the movie.

[Thrillho]

Someone mentioned Bollywood.

LAGAAN.

All 3 hours and 40 minutes of it.

Although, I've watched it three times and I still don't understand cricket.

Mate, I'm English born and bred and I've seen any number of cricket matches, and even I don't understand cricket...

[the-artful-dodger-rodger]

nobody will understand cricket, the only you need to understand is that a cricket bat is the perfect weapon against zombie.

I forgot to mention a new musical about zombie, check it out "Song of the dead" just goggle it.

all yeah how nobody metion Hair yet, or that one came out last year Across The Universe?

[Patrick]

Hair... that title reminds me of Hairspray.

Hairspray was fucking boring.

[jill the ripper]

I'm going to kill you now.

Hairspray, originally, was not a musical. It was a dance movie. There was a stage production that they put music to, and the remake is of that.

So, it's gone Movie>Play>Movie. :]



Speaking of John Waters, Crybaby has to be the most fabulous musical from 1969 onwards.

[The Viz]

Hair... that title reminds me of Hairspray.

Hairspray was fucking boring.

Hairspray was a good play, but the remake movie was fucking terrible.  Whoever casted that piece of shit deserves to be shot.  Or just forced to actually watch the movie, I'm not sure which is worse.

[Patrick]

I saw the original film and the remake and I hated them both quite equally.

[jill the ripper]

I also lovelovelove the musical version of Auntie Mame.
Hell, I love any version of Auntie Mame/

Ever seen Connie & Carla? Mame makes recurring appearances in the movie.

-putsonqueue-
man, i love netflix.

Hell, Mame makes recurring appearances in my life. My grandmother was exactly like her. Exactly.
Granted, she died of lung cancer and possible brain cancer from alcoholism and smoking three packs a day, but she was still rad.

I saw the original film and the remake and I hated them both quite equally.

Hairspray has the John Waters bad movie quality. And you really have to like the way John Waters makes movies to like Hairspray.
Otherwise, it is shit.

But, I must give John Travolta kudos. He was actually pretty good as the mother. I forgot he was, you know, a man, for a few moments during the movie. :]
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOOD, AT LEAST.

[Patrick]

You don't understand, Miss, I hated them both equally. This is not to say that I did not hate them at all. This is to say that I hated them both passionately.

[jill the ripper]

Something very odd happened to my previous post. It is fixed, now.

Bluh. I mean, I get what you're saying.
But, I mean (imeanimeanimean) that, to like either Hairspray, you have to like John Waters.
And his style of film making, in the script as well as the directing, can go from campy to creepy (umm, pink flamingos?) which is a very particular taste.


Even remakes cannot erase John Water's mark!
The new one...
was corny in a bad way, at times. I hated that stupid candle-lit montage.

OKAY.
SHUTTING UP NOW.
Before I talk myself into more of a corner.

[KharBevNor]

You could watch a fucking year-long video seminar on the rules of cricket and not understand it.

The rules are essentially similiar to baseball, I don't see what's so complex.

[Patrick]

Where are the bases. Where's the catcher. Where are the fucking hot dogs and beer.

NOT EVEN CLOSE DUDE

[vgaer]

I LOVE MUSICALS.

Yes, I love Rent, too. But my favorite ever ever is Les Miserables. Also the Sound of Music is pretty awesome.

I hate Cats! I hate Annie too, but when my high school did a production of it last year it was actually quite good, unlike any other version I've seen of it...

[KickThatBathProf]

Oh of course...

When your school does Annie it's good

But when anyone else does it?

I see how it is

[Emily]

Victor/Victoria is pretty awesome. Then again, I'm a sucker for cross-dressing of any kind.

[minkles]

The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee has got to be one of the most enjoyable musicals I've seen in recent years.  It's hilarious, sometimes touching, and has great music.

As far as the classics go, I'm a big fan of Fiddler, Sweeney Todd, Les Mis, etc.

I was recently in Footloose, which is a very fun show to act in and to watch, if you suspend disbelief about the storyline.

[Helios05]

Musicals eh, well, I like Grease, though I admit that I prefer the movie, yes shame on me. Other favorites are Chicago, The Producers, and The Birdcage.

I have seen Cats, and I regret it, though a good theater group can make it decent, but inherent flaws means its dead. I want to see West Side Story, so bad, and probably Romeo and Juliet, since I have heard WSS is based off of Romeo and Juliet, and I want to see the proof. Didn't they make a play version of The Outsiders? I know they have the movie, have seen it, missed a lot of the parts they cut from the book, but I've heard rumours of a play version.

[pinkpiche]

Oh of course...

When your school does Annie it's good

But when anyone else does it?

I see how it is

Exactly

[failingwithstyle]

I love music, and singing, so musicals are WONDERFUL.   My most recent love is Sweeny Todd, which is completely awesome.   It's definately on my list of favorites.

And yes, Rent is so overloved, but the songs are too much fun to sing.

[Lines]

Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred miiinnnnnuuuuuuuuuutes.

I hate that song. It was just a boring to sing.

[failingwithstyle]

I like more the songs and quotes from Rent that make the over abundance of Catholics in my town stare.  Like singing 'take me or leave me' in a duet with another one of my female friends

[Patrick]

Romeo and Juliet

I know this is taken out of context, but if I ever have to see any interpretation of Romeo and Juliet EVER AGAIN I swear to god I will destroy this entire planet with my mind-fury.

[Lines]

Can I help? Pretty please?

[Alphalpha]

From what I've seen of Phantom of the Opera, it actually rocks. I need to see all of it.

No one has mentioned The King and I! Yule Brenner rules the world! It has an excellent score, is funny, moving, and has a nice storyline. I love The King and I.

[Orbert]

The Phantom of the Opera does rock, completely.  We saw it at the Kennedy Center and it literally brought tears to my eyes, it was so intense.

I mean, the Phantom has coached her, taught her so much, taken her to incredible heights, shown her nothing but love, and all he wants is some kind of recognition. He's pleading with her, but there's the narcissistic pretty-boy who dumped her long ago and has done nothing for her ever since (except kinda stalk her), and she chooses... well, you know the story. It's not really a spoiler. Nice guys finish last, looks do matter, and girls are dumb.

[Patrick]

Wow, a theatrical production that features unrequited love. Real unique.

[The Viz]

The Phantom of the Opera does rock, completely.  We saw it at the Kennedy Center and it literally brought tears to my eyes, it was so intense.

I mean, the Phantom has coached her, taught her so much, taken her to incredible heights, shown her nothing but love, and all he wants is some kind of recognition. He's pleading with her, but there's the narcissistic pretty-boy who dumped her long ago and has done nothing for her ever since (except kinda stalk her), and she chooses... well, you know the story. It's not really a spoiler. Nice guys finish last, looks do matter, and girls are dumb.

Well, the phantom did sort of kidnap her and hold her against her will.  Hardly selfless love right there.  Then you have the guy who's willing to brave anything to save her from the one holding her hostage.  While the phantom at points is the subject of sympathy, he acts selfishly and ultimately is so disgusted with himself that he forces them to leave so he can die alone.

But, that's the beauty.  Shades of gray and whatnot.

[greenMonkey]

Romeo and Juliet

I know this is taken out of context, but if I ever have to see any interpretation of Romeo and Juliet EVER AGAIN I swear to god I will destroy this entire planet with my mind-fury.

I know the feeling.  R and J is probably my least favorite of all of Shakespeare's works.

Regarding King and I (with Yul Brenner): that's an enjoyable movie musical.  Not fantastic, but admirable.

Regarding Phantom: will someone please explain to me what is so appealing about this musical?!  I don't get it at all!

[Patrick]

I already hated it the first time I had to read it in school. Then came the 5th time. Then the 6th.

God I hate that fucking play.

[greenMonkey]

I think that some of the poetry in Romeo and Juilet is gorgeous, and I like some of the characters, but I really just don't like the play as a whole.

[jill the ripper]

Romeo and Juliet is a classic example of exactly how I'm cursed. My favorite characters are doomed to die.
Paris. The only character in the entire play that I actually like. Well, I sort of like Mercrutio, but not as a person. IRL, I'd hate him.
BUT PARIS. Paris breaks my heart.

The rest of them, especially Romeo and Juliet, are pricks. Juliet is a little attention-monger slut who can't do a thing her parents say and abuses her nurse as well as everyone around her, and Romeo is a prissy little prat that throws a tantrum every time he doesn't get his way, and only thinks of what he wants right at that moment. I hate them all. No one in that play follows the law, and all of them fall to ruin. And that's the point, really. Juliet doesn't follow her parent's law, the houses don't follow the prince's law, etc. Drives me insane.

. . . I just came back from writing an essay-test on Romeo and Juliet's theme of "Thoughtless, selfish actions lead to the demise of everyone." >[


To like Phantom you really have to enjoy Byronic heroes. You know, the gallant hero with a dark secret, or the imperfect, stormy hero. Rochester, in Jane Eyre, is similar. You also sort of have to be a teenage girl. And that, you see, I am. Phantom is intensely romantic. In the old way, not in the Meg Ryan way. In the tragic, painful way. And therefore, it is very difficult to do correctly, as society today does not see Phantom as romantic in the way it should be. It should, in fact, be creepy. It should be a little bit disturbing. He is, in fact, a stalker.
But it's a musical, so we're willing to suspend disbelief for a few hours.
The sanitized, wooed and gallant versions I've recently seen are not so great.


I need to turn off the essay switch now. Bluhhh.

[Lines]

I shall give you a quote about just what is so wrong about Romeo and Juliet. The narrator, a guy, went on a date and saw the play.

We ascended the aisle and made our way through the crowded lobby onto the steps of the playhouse. There were girls everywhere, all of them misty-eyed. Two girls in front of us were talking to each other. One of them threew her arms in the air and cried out, I wish I could know love like Romeo and Juliet!

I couldn't take it anymore. I whispered under my breath, They're dead.

I didn't think anyone heard me, but my date did. The two girls next to us heard me also, and they told the people next to them. One idiot guy repeated what I said and laughed, pointing at me. All the girls looked at me like I had just stepped on a cat. My date's body grew cold. She let go of my hand. She crossed her arms over her chest and walked a few feet in front of me all the way back to the truck. On the way home she hugged the far door so tightly I thought she was going to fall out. When we got back to her house I asked her if she would like to go out again.
"I don't think so," she said.
"Why?"
"I don't think I could like you."
"Why?"
"I just don't."
"Can we kiss? I hear that helps a girl fall in love."
"You are evil," she said. "The Antichrist!"

tl;dr Point is, the guy is right and the play turns a lot of girls into ninnies. Romeo and Juliet were silly and the play is lame. A Midsummer Night's Dream is so much better.

[greenMonkey]

True!  Midsummer is a much better exploration of love than Romeo and Juliet.

Though I love Mercutio's 'Queen Mab' speech.  I really like Mercutio's character.

[jill the ripper]

Troilus and Cressida is a better romance than Romeo and Juliet. So is As You Like It. And... well, gosh, just about any other Shakespeare romance.

Titus Andronicus (I think I spelled that right) and Romeo and Juliet are my two least favorite plays of Shakespeare's. Both Lavinia and Paris die. Break my heart, it does. Those two are sort of the fan service plays, I was told, somewhere.  Writer had to live, you know. R&J was written rather early.
T. A. is especially disliked because my father showed me Titus when I was thirteen without telling me a thing about it preemptively. Only that it was Shakespeare. Sort of came as a shock.

Oh, I must have read Midsummers a good dozen times by now. Every word that Helen says is pure gold. The Kevin Kline movie version has Rupert Everett as Oberon, as well, doing a brilliant job. I mean, he recites the lines like lines. Pausing where there are commas, and periods and other punctuation, not the end of the line like so many other actors who try to do Shakespeare do (poor Alicia Silverstone.)

[The Viz]

tl;dr Point is, the guy is right and the play turns a lot of girls into ninnies. Romeo and Juliet were silly and the play is lame. A Midsummer Night's Dream is so much better.

Girls turn into ninnies over it because they don't realize that Shakespeare was trying to parody the over-the-top dramas of the day.  There's so much irony in that play, the thing's a comedic masterpiece.  People just don't get it.  So it makes girls cry and guys puke because nobody seems to get that Shakespeare wasn't trying to write a beautiful play about unlimited love; he was making fun of playwrights that did so poorly.

But I agree, Midsummer Night's Dream is better, as is Much Ado About Nothing.  Hell, I love everything I've read by him (though admittedly I'm missing a few of the classics).

[Patrick]

Girls turn into ninnies over it because they don't realize that Shakespeare was trying to parody the over-the-top dramas of the day.  There's so much irony in that play, the thing's a comedic masterpiece.  People just don't get it.  So it makes girls cry and guys puke because nobody seems to get that Shakespeare wasn't trying to write a beautiful play about unlimited love; he was making fun of playwrights that did so poorly.

Yeah, well, over the course of centuries, though technology and lifestyles have changed, we've all lost our sense of humor.

I'm also just fucking sick of reading that stupid play. I have only ever had one teacher (out of six who have had us read it) who didn't read the play to the class as being an incredibly romantic, tragic story of ill-fated lovers. No, he read it to us as a "14-year-olds can be so bloody retarded sometimes and hahahahaha they killed themselves over a misunderstanding bahahahahahahaha".

Made it so much better when I realized Mercutio's "I back thee!" line is really just a buttsecks joke.

[Lines]

Much Ado About Nothing is tied with Midsummer Night's Dream as my favorite Shakespeare play.

And I could honestly care less about the irony in R&J. I've just never liked that play. It's hard to appreciate irony when you hate the things it's being ironic about. But the "I bite my thumb at you, sir" is a good line. Mercutio is the only decent character in the play. It would have been much more successful if it was a play about Mercutio goofing off and not all this suicide because of love lols crap.