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[MadassAlex]

Please be so kind as to tell me.

ITT we discuss weaboo music because we're geeks. I personally dig the sense of melody that's very prevalent. It's kinda like they pretended hair metal never existed and continued shredding in good taste. Guitarists heavily influenced by that kind of music are some of my favourites, too (like Marty Friedman and Paul Gilbert).

Also, Galneryus and Maximum The Hormone.

[öde]

When an Asian child is 6 it is picked to be good at either science, engineering, playing online games, or rocking the fuck out. From that day, until the day it dies, it practices for 14 hours a day, 5 days a week.

[jeph]

HOORAY RACISM

[karl gambolputty...]

Actually, Maths isn't an option.  All Asians are good at math. 

Except the females, of course. 

HOORAY SEXISM

[Christophe]

Shit, I certainly ain't good at maths. My strong forte is in writing.

Oh, and rocking out.

Then again, this is only if you consider Pacific Islander to be part of the whole Asian thing.

HOORACISM

Fixed your post.

[rynne]

sense of melody

A sense of melody... yeah, that must be it.

Next topic: Why are blacks so good at rap?

[karl gambolputty...]

Then again, this is only if you consider Pacific Islander to be part of the whole Asian thing.

I'd say that Pacific Islanders are pretty clearly of Asian descent.  As an aside, man, I've never understood how the word 'Asian' has come to mean something other than 'someone from Asia'.  Brown people are Asians too. 

[valley_parade]

Wait, does this mean Joe Hocking has the same rawk the fuck out skills as Wata?

[karl gambolputty...]

and William Hung

[valley_parade]

...did you just compare William Hung to Boris?

Or William Hung to Joe Hocking?

[karl gambolputty...]

...did you just compare William Hung to Boris?

Or William Hung to Joe Hocking?

All of the above.  ALL ASIANS ARE SO GOOD AT GUITAR

And William Hung is hung like a pack-mule.  I read it on the internet

[MadassAlex]

A sense of melody... yeah, that must be it.

Next topic: Why are blacks so good at rap?

That was actually pretty sweet.

In any case, you've taken my comment and question the wrong way (it wasn't really serious). But it just to happens that:

1. There is a strong instrumental rock market over there
2. Virtuosity has never really been lost on the weaboo music market since they got addicted to metal
3. ASIANS ARE REALLY FUCKING GOOD AT GUITAR ARE YOU DEAF OH GOD

I personally find it interesting that they have a very specific flavour of melody that is so very, very different from western music despite the huge influence that the USA has had on them. If you listen, you'll find it evident that, at the very least, the lack of a largely developed blues presence during the development of their rock and metal means that instead of transitioning between notes with slurs, they'll take a more defined approach. Probably emphasised since their language takes the same approach.

Also, the fact that their rock and metal isn't a product of the regular bluesy and jazzy influences as much as its a result of more contemporary influences means that, just like their industry in general, they skipped a beat when it comes to their musical development and thus naturally lean towards a certain style of melodic content.

Next topic: why were black people in the 1800s so good at blues music?


Because the culture and conditions were perfect for it

(I know that it's not strictly true, but it's ridiculous how quickly people jump to conclusions)

Okay, now that I've covered myself, anyone else who wants to be smart can wast their time elsewhere; I didn't start this topic to lay down absolutes, but I did start it to offer some observations and possibly, if we can take a joke and not imply ridiculous things about other forum members, discuss nerdy Japanese music.

(I am fully aware of which posts were jokingly made, thank you for your humour)

ITT Herman Ri shits on your head.

[karl gambolputty...]

You do know you're talking about 4 BILLION people, yes? 

[Albatron]

I might actually have a good answer

In China, they have more than double the amount of singers that have perfect pitch than western nations. Or something like that. Their language is based more on the way you pronounce a word rather than the word itself. So everyone learns pitch when they learn the language as a child. So maybe you could think of it as a little musical training from day one. This is partially why so many Asians are good at classical music too, But on the other side, if your very very bad at pitch in china, you can't talk right.

Thats all horribly simplified and generalized but I hope it makes sense, Im a bit hungover.

[rynne]

I don’t know, perhaps there is a cultural aspect to it.  I’ve suspected that cultures that developed in relative isolation also tend to breed artists that have relatively unique visions when compared to larger societies: see, for example, the large number of acclaimed musicians from Iceland, or writers from Ireland.  But I’m not a sociologist, so I can only speculate.

*edit* I should note that I’m talking about Japan here, and not mainland Asian countries, ‘cause I’d hardly call them isolated.

[öde]

You forgot the other options -

Maths
Laundry
'Chinese' Food

and

Making 90% of the Things you Own.

Those are just stereotypes and not really representative of the entire Asian community, Tommy.

[StaedlerMars]

You do know you're talking about 4 BILLION people, yes? 

If you take this and start working with percentages...

That Melt Banana thing was awesome. There is definitly melody in that.

[RobbieOC]

It's cause of all the video games, guys.

[Mister Arkadin]

I'm asian and I am completely incapable of rocking the fuck out.
I'm kick ass at Starcraft, though.

[sean]

Do you think that William Hung is actually hu.....wait, no forget it.

Next time I get shit for making a bad joke I'm referring back to this post.

[Nodaisho]

I liked that melt banana thing until the singer started.

It could very well be that it has to do with the musical influences (speaking of japan only here), the way I heard it, Japanese rock music came from 60s and 70s rock, but the people playing it in Japan didn't do drugs, so it started sounding different. Not that I am against drug influences in music, I am listening to Snowblind off of Vol. 4 right now.

I don't listen to much in the way of Japanese (or Chinese, or Korean) music, the closest is listening to Marty Friedman, and he just lives there, he doesn't really count as Japanese.

[BaneAtvar]

Sense of melody... in shredding.

Whoah boy, I think I might need a breather... Trouble... assimilating.


Other than that, might I say that, if I sung WHOAOBLIUBURUURUURULIBRILIILIBULIBIUUUUUUUUU, would you call this a sense of melody?

[MadassAlex]

Oh, suck a dick.

[gardenhead_]

Sense of melody... in shredding.

Whoah boy, I think I might need a breather... Trouble... assimilating.


Other than that, might I say that, if I sung WHOAOBLIUBURUURUURULIBRILIILIBULIBIUUUUUUUUU, would you call this a sense of melody?

Well you just gave us the words, not the notes. So it could be depending on the way it was sung...

[Hat]

Did you just say.... weeaboo?

[Spluff]

He hasn't quite realized that the notes are more important than the words, yet.
Which is probably why he can't listen to talented musicians.


Also, I dunno, that clip is nothing special. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of Americans who could write and play a simple shred piece like that. It's not particularly unique.

[Tom]

If we keep trying to assimilate them they will soon only develop western based, not derivative, talents. A lot of 3rd generation immigrants that I know haven't developed in the same way/environment as those less removed from the culture.

[David_Dovey]

[BaneAtvar]

You guys are mean...

Sorry guys, I'll go listen to JerryC till I can recognize talent.

[PECOAE]

Then again, this is only if you consider Pacific Islander to be part of the whole Asian thing.

I'd say that Pacific Islanders are pretty clearly of Asian descent.  As an aside, man, I've never understood how the word 'Asian' has come to mean something other than 'someone from Asia'.  Brown people are Asians too. 

Hell yes, whenever someone says something is Asian, my little Indian ears perk up and I'm off to smell the curry.  (OR SOMETHING, MAYBE WE'RE JUST GREAT -?!)

[sean]

You guys are mean...

Sorry guys, I'll go listen to JohnnyC till I can recognize talent.

[Tom]

FIX'D

[Narr]

WHIIIIIIIIIIITE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE

[jeph]

HOLY

GR[touches your anus and genitals repeatedly]

[MrSteevo]

*Walks away slowly from the thread*

[MadassAlex]

Also, I dunno, that clip is nothing special. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of Americans who could write and play a simple shred piece like that. It's not particularly unique.

Hundreds of thousands? I think you're overstepping there, a tad. Considering the general attitude towards shred and the relative lack of people who are willing to put in the ungodly amount of practise time to play cleanly at 300 bpm, I would put the numbers who would play something like that in the low thousands.
Sure, there's a bunch of technical guitarists out there who technically could play it, but hundreds of thousands? I really, really don't think so, otherwise we'd have hundreds of thousands of people becoming virtuosic in coming years.

(In any case, I just decided to show that video in particular due to zerg rush)

(And to the above, I actually DID say weaboo)

(David Dovey is amazing)

[Tom]

Did you just say.... weeaboo?

[Spluff]

Hundreds of thousands? I think you're overstepping there, a tad. Considering the general attitude towards shred and the relative lack of people who are willing to put in the ungodly amount of practise time to play cleanly at 300 bpm, I would put the numbers who would play something like that in the low thousands.
Sure, there's a bunch of technical guitarists out there who technically could play it, but hundreds of thousands? I really, really don't think so, otherwise we'd have hundreds of thousands of people becoming virtuosic in coming years.

Okay, yeah, probably an exaggeration, but you'd be surprised how many people out there can shred. Generally you have the two classes of guitarists, those who shred, and those who say 'they have no feeling a bloo bla bloo david gilmour bla bloo'. Generally they don't get any exposure due to a) the second class of guitarists and b) they're too busy staying home practicing their shred in the basement.

[MadassAlex]

I know how many people out there have the technical fluency to shred - the issue is that for each of them, there's at least 5 guitarists who are A BLOO BLOO GILMOUR or just can't be arsed.

[frunK]

As much as I hate to perpetuate racial stereotypes, Meet Akira Takasaki of Loudness, he makes his guitar fuck your mom. If you're impatient the solo is just before the 3:00 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRJ4Re8jKWU
Also this is a later song during the years when they had Mike Vescera doing vocals. The interview ends at 2:40 and the solo is at 4:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUZzPpJExkQ&feature=related 

[pat101]

I might actually have a good answer

In China, they have more than double the amount of singers that have perfect pitch than western nations. Or something like that. Their language is based more on the way you pronounce a word rather than the word itself. So everyone learns pitch when they learn the language as a child. So maybe you could think of it as a little musical training from day one. This is partially why so many Asians are good at classical music too, But on the other side, if your very very bad at pitch in china, you can't talk right.

Thats all horribly simplified and generalized but I hope it makes sense, Im a bit hungover.

This makes a good amount of sense, when I was in China I was always amazed at how great most people's pitch was.

[muteKi]

You guys are mean...

Sorry guys, I'll go listen to JohnnyC till I can recognize talent.

Heh. At first I thought this was actually what he meant to say.

It turns out he was referring to this guy.

[Patrick]

You do know you're talking about 4 BILLION people, yes? 

...fuck you, I don't want to know what kind of competition I have waiting for me.

[dalconnsuch]

this is quite ironic, i was ina  band with an asian man tatsu (his full name was hard to pronounce) and my god he was more skilled than any other guitarist in the scene at the time, we specialized in improv jams, choosen a key and just jamming jamming jamming, we braught down roofs!

he's gonna be famous one day, look out for a bearded asian man name tatsu (nickname)

[frullic]

There's this azn chick in my class who pwns the hell out of everyone (including teachers) in math and science. I managed to get a better science test grade than her once but only because the periodic table was left on a counter near my desk...

[sean]

God this thread is horrible.

So horrible.

[sean]

YOU KNOW WHAT THIS THREAD NEEDS!

THIS THREAD NEEDS SOME MOTHER FUCKING THUNDERCATS!

[sean]

THUNDERCATS!

THUNDERCATS!

THUNDEEEEEEEEERCATS!

[Chad K.]

I hear asians are so good at guitar because they don't actually need sleep.  Yep, it's a big racial conspiracy.  They use the time when the rest of the world is sleeping to practice sweeping techniques.

Oh, and white people?  Secretly cannibals. No, it's true, we are. 

[karl gambolputty...]

WHY ARE THUNDERCATS SO GOOD AT GUITAR?

BECAUSE THEY ARE ASIAN THAT'S WHY.

GUITAR SORO!!

SQUIDDRY DIDDRY DIDDRY DIDDRY

GODDAMN YOU PAGEBREAK YOU RUINED MY JOKE