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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #400 on: 24 Jan 2009, 14:00 »

The fixation of turning QC into a slashfest scares me, more than just a little bit.


Turning anything into a slash fest is rather horrifying.  Leave it on LJ, under a lock, where it belongs.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #401 on: 24 Jan 2009, 14:01 »

I thought that this encounter might be leading up to another "Dora is insecure and takes it out on Marten" fight.  I'm pretty sure that's where we're going.  I am hoping that Faye tells Marten to grow a pair and tell Dora to stop bitching him out about every time he talks to another girl.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #402 on: 24 Jan 2009, 14:05 »

Life would be boring without the occasional odd person.

But even their behavior can be rather repetitive. ;>
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #403 on: 24 Jan 2009, 14:15 »

Everyone's expecting this storyline to go *splat* like the last "Dora's insecurites" storyline, but I want big drama :( I shall make a prophecy! Here goes:

Marten finally gets fed up of Dora getting moody when stuff like this happens and calls her on it, they have a tiff but unlike last time when they stayed up and talked it out they both get huffy and storm off. Marten's back at the library and sees RandomCollegeGirl again, and Friday's strip has him asking her out for a drink or something - Drama and sordid affairs ensue!

I'm putting good odds on that never happening, but I'd love it to, it would be some good drama.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #404 on: 24 Jan 2009, 14:49 »

Whereas I think Dora will tell Marten she's just kidding, but she would rather he tell her about being hit on, which I understand. By which I mean she's a bit serious and a bit worried, but not quite as much as some seem to think.

Also, every time I see "grow a pair" in these forums, I wonder how well these folks do in relationships. Marten has shown he can get angry when he thinks the situation warrants. And as I recall, he didn't go crawling back to Doraóhe went back to someone he loved who was hurting from having some old, deep wounds pulled open again. I also note that they both apologized, not just Marten. And a last note, to the Clan of Testicular Growthóthe 'winner' of a couple's argument is nearly always really the loser.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #405 on: 24 Jan 2009, 15:38 »

Speaking as a member of the "grow a pair" faction, I've been doing well in relationships.  More to the point, I was like Marten very early on in life - THAT was when my relationships were bad.  While mutual compromise and communication make for a good relationship, one-sided caving is going to a)make the caving person progressively more resentful, and b)get the caving person dumped the moment the other person finds someone with more balls or more money.  Why would someone have fear of abusing his/her partner if the partner never reacts with meaningful consequences?

Growing a pair?  GOOD IDEA.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #406 on: 24 Jan 2009, 15:51 »

Do you really think that Dora is abusing Marten?
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #407 on: 24 Jan 2009, 15:57 »

Also, every time I see "grow a pair" in these forums, I wonder how well these folks do in relationships.

Bad, because I've always been in Marten's position where the girl uses me as a scratching post because she's a bit sad that day, or she's got some bullshit excuse, or the Sun rose that morning.

Do you really think that Dora is abusing Marten?

Yes.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #408 on: 24 Jan 2009, 16:01 »

Whereas I think Dora will tell Marten she's just kidding, but she would rather he tell her about being hit on, which I understand. By which I mean she's a bit serious and a bit worried, but not quite as much as some seem to think.
Would she really want him to tell her, though? Someone already said it earlier, but that would seem a little like he was trying to be a manipulative twat rather than keeping open those lines of communication: "Hey, someone asked me out. Yeah, that's right. You just remember that I can leave any time I want, kid." I doubt Marten would even be able borrow a set big enough to play off something like that.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #409 on: 24 Jan 2009, 16:05 »

Dora as abuser.  Wow.  I would have picked Faye as the one who really played headgames with Marten.  I'll need to go back through the strips to find the ones where Dora calls Marten names, undermines his self confidence, threatens to leave him or to hurt him,  or does more than have a 10 minute insecurity episode.

Can anyone help me find all the Dora the Abuser strips?  No, seriously, maybe she really is and the evidence is in the strip.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #410 on: 24 Jan 2009, 16:15 »

Can anyone help me find all the Dora the Abuser strips?  No, seriously, maybe she really is and the evidence is in the strip.

HOW DARE YOU CUT YOUR HAIR  (I DON'T NEED HIS APPROVAL TO CHANGE MY HAIR)
HOW DARE YOU HAVE HAD GIRLFRIENDS YEARS AGO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINENT
HOW DARE YOU NOT BUY INTO MY IRRATIONAL CONSPIRACY THEORY (then Marten got told off for not immediately rolling over for her, then Dora gave a heartwarming explanation that totally did not affect her future behavior at all)
HOW DARE SOME OTHER GIRL ASK YOU OUT AND YOU SAY NO THEN NOT IMMEDIATELY TELL ME
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #411 on: 24 Jan 2009, 16:26 »

... Yeah, the red highlighted font isn't creepy. At all. Nope. Uh-uh.

And nah, guess I haven't been here quite long enough yet.


.......I don't think Dora overreacted.
I think that some crazy forum people miiiight be overreacting, though.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #412 on: 24 Jan 2009, 16:31 »

Some random woman asks him out, he says no, and he's supposed to regard this as a noteworthy event in his day?

Come on Dora.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #413 on: 24 Jan 2009, 17:16 »

.......I don't think Dora overreacted.
I think that some crazy forum people miiiight be overreacting, though.
I think it's both. :p

I think Dora's going a little overboard, but at least she's not raging like last time. As far as Marty's testicular fortitude, I agree with Roullefere. He's just non confrontational. He can get angry, even with Dora, if his buttons are pushed just right. But he normally likes to handle it calmly or with humor. He may be a bit too unwilling to make himself firm though.
... also agree with absofflab, completely.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #414 on: 24 Jan 2009, 17:22 »

I took a somewhat less biased look at it than some.  Also, a headcold and a bad case of vertigo means I currently have LOTS of time..

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1024
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1030
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1031
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1032
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1036
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1040
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1041
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1047

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1048

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1056
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1058
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1059

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1066
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1067
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1092
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1095
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1096
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1097
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1098
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1100
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1101
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1102
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1103
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1104
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1106
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1110
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1112
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1117

Marten being possessive
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1132


More Dora "abuse"
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1133
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1135
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1139
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1147
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1157

Martin can be insecure, too
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1159


Dora Abusing Marten

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1166

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1170
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1171


http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1173
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1174
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1188
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1220

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1225
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1228
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1250
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1262
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1263
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1268
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1273
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1282
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1300
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1314
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1315



I didn't go back to the very beginning because, well, it's a long list -- all strips showing Dora and Martin's relationship.  Martin has been, in at least one case, insecure about his relationship with Dora enough do be dumb, and at least one time visibly jealous. 

The current strip is getting what might be terms an over reaction from the fan base, perhaps, as so far we've seen -- what, 30 seconds worth of irrationality? 
Of course, it's pretty average for people with serious baggage or even not so serious baggage to project their own experiences onto unrelated situations. 

Time for more Nyquil.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #415 on: 24 Jan 2009, 17:26 »

Marten's examples are totally benign as far as I can see.

And a lot of those "Dora's abuse" examples are just Dora screwing around or being brutally honest.
(brutal honesty happens to be a quality I'm attracted to...)
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #416 on: 24 Jan 2009, 17:43 »

Marten's examples are totally benign as far as I can see.

And a lot of those "Dora's abuse" examples are just Dora screwing around or being brutally honest.
(brutal honesty happens to be a quality I'm attracted to...)

Exactly!

I don't really think Dora is abusive.  Sharp, and sometimes a little more honest than tactful, and plenty insecure, but no relationship is 100% delight all the time, and Marten has had a fair bit of delight, shall we say, in his relationship with Dora.  It's hard to read a timeline in the strip since it's pretty time flexible -- I'd guess it's at least 6 months, maybe a year -- and ONE bad fight with a big make up afterwards?  Award winning!

The one difference I noticed was one several others pointed out -- this is the first time anything -- ANYTHING -- possibly threatening to Dora/The relationship happened to Marten that he DIDN'T immediately tell Dora.  He told her about Tai's piercing immediately, about Hanners immediately, about Faye right off -- but not this, and it is about as minor as Hanners.  And, again, it's not a full out argument yet -- it's a 30 second maybe irrational reaction.

Hell, we are all spending much more time on it than I suspect Jeph or any of the characters will.  Of course, in my case, I've got nothing else to do except cough and feel dizzy, so I'm good with it.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #417 on: 24 Jan 2009, 19:05 »

th one where marten was being "possesive" is total croc!

1: he's kidding
2:Tai is kidding
3: he's horny
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #418 on: 24 Jan 2009, 19:19 »

Marten was about as possessive as Dora is abusive.  Titles were ironically intended.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #419 on: 24 Jan 2009, 19:22 »

yeah, noticed that after posting.

newb mistake please forgive me

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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #420 on: 24 Jan 2009, 23:03 »

I will admit that there are times when one needs to assert oneself in a relationshipóand Marten did that, very well, in fact, at the end of The Talk. Scanning over that reminds me that Faye could be considered abusive, and not just on the physical end of things, if she'd let things go on much further. Whenever I think i detest Faye, I have to remember that she did do the right thing then, and will, sooner or later, probably do it again.

I see Dora as a person who's worked pretty hard to get over a fairly serious childhood hang-up (I'll remind you that we don't know how the Bianchi parents reacted to Sven poaching Dora's friends: for several reasons they should have told him they were off-limits) and yet, sometimes, lets it get the better of her. Like it or not, try as she will, strong as she has become, that insecurity, that tiny fear that she comes second in everything is going to be with Dora for a long time , and every now and then, or more frequently, it will come out. But she has behaved betteróhasn't she more or less accepted the Faye-Sven whateverthehellitis? (Or at least tries to act as though she does, which also deserves credit).

Marten, on the other hand, seems to have always been supported at home, however weird it might have been, He's an only child, too, which can make a difference so long as the parents aren't too self-absorbed. Furthermore, he's used to strong women (I don't think any woman can make it in the porn business as well as V Vance has without being fairly strong. Her friendly relationship with her husband confirms this), which is, I suspect, what attracts him to Dora in the first place. Faye, too, for that matter. (more on that in another post).

As I look over this, I can't help thinking that Jeph is looking at all of these posts and laughing his ass off (which is healthier than getting angry). I don't mind, though. The over-analysis, the mincing and dicing of the plot-lines, the citing of old strips, the attempts to piece a consistent narrative together and discover the inner workings of nonexistent peopleógod, I love it so!
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #421 on: 25 Jan 2009, 00:56 »

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HOW DARE YOU HAVE HAD GIRLFRIENDS YEARS AGO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINENT

This one is BS considering a comic concerning Marten's girlfriend came in way before they started dating. She had no problems with him having ex-girlfriends.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #422 on: 25 Jan 2009, 07:09 »

You know, now Faye seems like the calmer, more rational one, and Dora's the crazy bitch with issues.

oh that's just because Dora's in a relationship and Faye's (technically) single. Boys make girls crazy imo.

Errrrrrrrrrrrr ....

.... yes, while boys stay totally sane because of girls ...

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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #423 on: 25 Jan 2009, 07:24 »

Damn right they do!

^^

And maaaaaaayyyyn did this thread get out of hand tl;dr-wise!
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #424 on: 25 Jan 2009, 10:21 »

.... yes, while boys stay totally sane because of girls ...

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Boys being made crazy by girls does not preclude girls being made crazy by boys.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #425 on: 25 Jan 2009, 11:14 »

.... yes, while boys stay totally sane because of girls ...

 :roll:

Boys being made crazy by girls does not preclude girls being made crazy by boys.

i think it just boils down to the fact that deep down... we're all fucked up sex crazed morons.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #426 on: 25 Jan 2009, 15:04 »

People make people crazy -- I won't even say it's gender specific :) 

Hm, it just occurred to me...QC has one lesbian character and at least one bi woman, but guys are all pretty much straight through and through.  Now, it's not surprising -- authors tend to write about what they like, and Jeph may just like bi-girls and lesbians (oh horrors, the boys like the girl on girl action.  I am *shocked*.  SHOCKED, I say...*yawn*) but aside from one mention by Marten about fearing he'd be overcome with the desire to high five another guy in the midst of things, and the brief but scary flirtation with Marten/Sven slash *shudder* I wonder why it's been skipped over?
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #427 on: 25 Jan 2009, 15:22 »

Marten's old boss Steve (back when Marten was the office bitch), was gay (I think).  Steve talked about his boyfriend on multiple occasions.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #428 on: 25 Jan 2009, 15:24 »

Marten's dad is gay, but he hasn't made an actual appearance in the comic.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #429 on: 25 Jan 2009, 15:28 »

Did anyone notice what Jeph did with moving the point of view between the top and third panels from the top? 
I especially liked the second panel from the top.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #430 on: 25 Jan 2009, 15:53 »

Damned if I can find the work-related strips.  Can someone point them out to me before I go crazy(er)?
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #431 on: 25 Jan 2009, 16:03 »

They must be WAY back...I'll keep looking.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #432 on: 25 Jan 2009, 16:19 »

Arcs starting at 86 (or 85) and 624.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #433 on: 25 Jan 2009, 16:36 »

Hmmmm, that has to hurt a little. Not that she's biting his head off. I mean, jealosy can be cute in a girl, occassionaly.
But assuming that being hit on is a rare, interesting, and lets-tell-everyone type of thing has to hurt with shred of ego marty possesses.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #435 on: 25 Jan 2009, 17:59 »

he comes back after Martens mom visits, and then marten gets laid off. good office space spoof
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #436 on: 25 Jan 2009, 19:26 »

The last comic, (Where Dora pulls out the sword, and praticularly the look in her eyes as she says, "Carnally, on a regular basis" is the funniest morbid thing that I have seen Dora do for a long time. Part of me was wishing that Dora would chase the woman out of the store with it for a few more panels, but my imagination was able to come up with a funny conclusion to that.

Faye's quote at the end of this and the next comic is very Apathetic, and also good.
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #437 on: 25 Jan 2009, 21:23 »

this has probably been pointed out but, I get the Comic Via the RSS everyday and at the end of this comic was
Quote from:  Jeff
"OMG DORA IS SUCH A BITCH"
"NO WAY MARTEN IS THE JERK IN THIS SITUATION"
[jeph fires a nuclear missile at the QC discussion board]
and it sent a fit of Giggles through me coming and seeing the board still going strong, just as he predicted, haha
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #438 on: 26 Jan 2009, 08:21 »



This image file is hogging my bandwidth!!!! Moderators, why haven't you locked this thread to put an end to such silliness!?!?
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Re: WCT Jan 19th-23rd
« Reply #439 on: 26 Jan 2009, 21:59 »

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