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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #50 on: 08 Feb 2010, 00:20 »

If Edgar Wright is directing it, I'm slightly more optimistic than I was.

That said, I've got to join the chorus of people disagreeing with the casting of Michael Cera in the role.

Michael Cera seems to play every character all awkward turtle. Reading the books, I always thought Scott Pilgrim was more brash and impulsive than awkward turtle.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #51 on: 08 Feb 2010, 22:00 »

That's what I was telling someone about just recently. They were saying that Scott is awkward and I was arguing that he very well might be, but HE doesn't realize that he's awkward. He just plunges through whatever uncomfortable scenario.

I'll see it because I'm curious, but dang it all, that just seems like a terrible choice.

Cera, please prove me wrong. I would love to be eating my words after this movie comes out.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #52 on: 09 Feb 2010, 20:00 »

This movie does have an oscar nominee though, does that make anyone happy?
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #53 on: 09 Feb 2010, 23:20 »

not really?
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #54 on: 09 Feb 2010, 23:42 »




No, not at all.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #55 on: 10 Feb 2010, 05:29 »

Really? I don't recall reading it being nominated for anything?

As for Oscars meaning anything, one word: MOON.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #56 on: 12 Feb 2010, 21:04 »

Kyra Hendricks, she was nominated for Up in the Air for best supporting actress. Too bad she wasn't a larger part in the movie, it might've saved it from suckdom.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #57 on: 12 Feb 2010, 21:17 »

Anna Kendrick is what you're looking for. But why should that matter? Think about this: Wicker Man had an Oscar Winner.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #58 on: 13 Feb 2010, 02:19 »

How many horrible movies has Ben Kingsley been in?  He won an Oscar for Gandhi.
How many horrible movies has Halle Berry been in? She won for Monster's Ball and almost everything she made post-Oscar has been horrid
Robin Williams, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Nicholas Cage......I could go on forever.

Oscars just mean that a certain movie was good, or that the actor was great in that role. I don't try to judge movies based on whether or not people involved have one an Oscar or not.  How many has Scorsese won? One right?  And how many amazing movies has he put out.

From the very limited amount of Scott Pilgrim I've read I don't really view him as awkward at all and trying to view Cera as him is so incredibly difficult.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #59 on: 03 Mar 2010, 13:27 »

I've seen Cera in Youth in Revolt, I have faith Edgar Wright knows what he's doing.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #60 on: 03 Mar 2010, 16:05 »

The hit to miss ratio sinks even lower when you factor in the ol' studio system days. Back before the '60s turning down roles just was not done. Guys like Cary Grant banged out 3 or 4 headliner roles a year, period, whether a couple of scripts were forgettable or not. And that attitude sorta persisted among actors even when playing the field and being a free agent became more and more possible. Gotta keep busy, you know?
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #61 on: 17 Mar 2010, 21:03 »



I just really want a trailer, or even a teaser.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #62 on: 17 Mar 2010, 21:12 »

i don't really understand how this will be anything but disappointing
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #63 on: 18 Mar 2010, 04:44 »

I STILL HAVE FAITH. It's not going to suck.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #64 on: 18 Mar 2010, 14:12 »

It is probably going to suck.

I will still pay $20 to see it.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #65 on: 18 Mar 2010, 20:20 »

I don't think it will suck. I'm just not expecting it to be great. That poster made me pull an unbecoming face.

Please surprise me, movie.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #66 on: 19 Mar 2010, 14:30 »

I am not optimistic about Cera playing Scott. He appears to have very little range, and he has never played anything remotely like the way Scott Pilgrim is characterized in the comics.

HOWEVER I cannot imagine a better director for this very unique story than the guy who made both Spaced and Hot Fuzz. Edgar Wright's presence combined with the promising early photos/marketing materials leads me to sit just on the optimistic side of the fence as a huge fan of the comics.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #67 on: 19 Mar 2010, 20:56 »

So hey, the final volume has been announced to be released on the 20th of July.


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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #69 on: 25 Mar 2010, 10:10 »

Cera's awful.

Everything else looks

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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #71 on: 25 Mar 2010, 12:54 »

Yes
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #72 on: 25 Mar 2010, 13:14 »

DAMMIT.

This movie is releasing on a Friday the 13th.

It also happens that August 13th is my birthday.

The last time my birthday fell on a Friday, a hurricane hit my part of Florida.

Clearly this movie will be horrible.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #73 on: 25 Mar 2010, 19:43 »

Holy fuck this movie actually looks like fun.  Especially the words on the screen.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #74 on: 25 Mar 2010, 19:47 »

Yay! That trailer was great, really captured the energy of the comic. That said... looks like we'll get Cera mumbling his way through this one. So not Scott!
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #75 on: 25 Mar 2010, 20:38 »

I'm so hopeful! I screamed like a small, Japanese highschooler
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #76 on: 26 Mar 2010, 17:50 »

Am I reading the book wrong? I don't feel like Cera is doing a horrible job. I'm sure they're putting in scenes like mopey and "destroyer" face to entice people into seeing the movie.

I mean, Scott seems pretty absent minded... I don't think thats going to be hard to hit as an actor.

I'll read Vs The World again... Maybe I'm missing something.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #77 on: 26 Mar 2010, 20:14 »

Just watched the trailer.
Jizzed a little bit.
Cera seems OK.
Don't like how fake some of Ramona's wigs look, but I guess that is the cost of having her many hair colours.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #78 on: 27 Mar 2010, 12:57 »

That trailer was kinda zzz. But maybe I'm just a little tired of Michael Cera.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #79 on: 29 Mar 2010, 06:06 »

I'd assume that, did he not fall asleep on a big pile of paper money every night, Michael Cera would be tired of Michael Cera.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #80 on: 02 Apr 2010, 17:33 »

i don't really understand how this will be anything but disappointing

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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #81 on: 05 Apr 2010, 06:57 »

That trailer looks great.

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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #82 on: 07 Apr 2010, 10:54 »

It's okay, Michael Cera. A lot of people are typecast actors. You don't have to prove anything to us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0KW4ESrZu0
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #83 on: 08 Apr 2010, 18:55 »

Actually, Cera looks a little bit more lively than usual. The trailer gave me a fuzzy warm feeling in my chest. I am excited.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #84 on: 19 Apr 2010, 04:54 »

Still excited, more excited, very excited. Esp. since I've two movies this year based on comics & neither fo them have sucked, one was even awesome.

Its a good year to like comics.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #85 on: 22 Apr 2010, 10:24 »

For those of you who are as rabid of a Scott Pilgrim fan as I, you will be pleased to know that Gamervision has taken the liberty to do a Frame by Frame Analysis of the trailer.

It's amazing how many details are missed when viewing the trailer at full speed. I am so, so excited for this movie to come out (ahem, in my pants), and IMO, Edgar Wright can do no wrong. I'm not even displeased with Cera's casting anymore (I've learned to deal).

RAD. AS. HELL. is an adequate description of how I feel about the SP trailer as well (thanks, Ozy)!
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #86 on: 22 Apr 2010, 11:28 »

you guys are being terribly optimistic


just sayin'
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #87 on: 22 Apr 2010, 17:03 »

Awww, no one likes a debbie downer!  :-P Just kidding... although, I don't think there's a need to be terribly pessimistic about the movie either. I'm always wary of movie adaptations, but I don't think SP warrants it.

Bryan Lee O'Malley was consulting Edgar Wright throughout the production, so the movie won't be a huge departure from the comics. Plus, you have to give the screenwriter/Edgar some leeway because the movie will be finished before the books are even concluded. Your guess about the ending is as good as mine.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #88 on: 23 Apr 2010, 07:01 »

Nope, nobody likes a Debbie downer. Not Joking.

Edgar Wright hasn't done anything even approaching bad in his career & I don't see why he'd start now. In fact if you have a good look at the cast that aren't Cera, not many of them have been in shitty films.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #89 on: 23 Apr 2010, 15:14 »

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« Reply #90 on: 25 Apr 2010, 02:59 »

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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #91 on: 26 Apr 2010, 06:50 »

you guys are being terribly optimistic


just sayin'

the trailer looks stylish and faithful to the novel in tone, and the director is edgar fucking wright. the dude's delivered two of the best comedies of the last decade, you're gonna say he doesn't know exactly what he's doing with this film?

y'all are bitches. cera really isn't that bad and this movie looks all kinds of fun.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #92 on: 26 Apr 2010, 06:52 »

then again there are people on this forum who think nic cage sucks so i don't know why i'm wasting my time
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #93 on: 26 Apr 2010, 16:36 »

on one hand i want to agree with you, jc

on the other hand is michael cera
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #94 on: 27 Apr 2010, 01:27 »

you can maybe get over yourself long enough to concede that someone you don't like might turn in a good performance because that's probably not a unique concept to you and certainly isn't a unique concept to the entire history of film

that's mostly addressed to everyone in this thread dissing on cera by the way, this film looks rad and the rock owned in southland tales and mickey rourke killed in the wrestler and nic cage is in a late-career renaissance of excellent films and etc. etc. etc.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #95 on: 27 Apr 2010, 02:08 »

# The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010) (post-production) .... Balthazar Blake
# The Hungry Rabbit Jumps (2010) (post-production)
# Season of the Witch (2010) (completed) .... Behman
# Kick-Ass (2010) .... Damon Macready / Big Daddy
# Astro Boy (2009) (voice) .... Dr. Tenma
# The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans (2009) .... Terence McDonagh
# G-Force (2009) (voice) .... Speckles
# Knowing (2009) .... John Koestler
# Bangkok Dangerous (2008) .... Joe
# National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007) .... Ben Gates
# Next (2007) .... Cris Johnson
# Grindhouse (2007) .... Fu Manchu (segment "Werewolf Women of the SS")
# Ghost Rider (2007) .... Johnny Blaze / Ghost Rider
... aka "Spirited Racer" - Philippines (English title) (review title)
# The Wicker Man (2006) .... Edward Malus
# World Trade Center (2006) .... John McLoughlin
# The Ant Bully (2006) (voice) .... Zoc
# The Weather Man (2005) .... David Spritz
# Lord of War (2005) .... Yuri Orlov

OK, so there's Grindhouse in which he made a cameo in one of the intermission segments, Bad Lieutenant in which his hair was a bird,  Kick Ass in which he and Chloe Moretz were bright spots in a film that would've sucked way more horribly without them and Lord of War is probably a line ball.

Buuuuuuut then there is also World Trade Center, The Wicker Man (sorry man but films which have attained cult status based on being prodigiously awful don't count, I don't care how you try to justify it) Ghost Rider (there's a sequel in the works hooray) 2 fucking National Treasure movies for fuck's sake, Bangkok Dangerous (see Wicker Man) and Knowing, G-Force and Astro-Boy which don't even have the sense to suck entertainingly.

Hey, maybe you can get over yourself long enough to admit that maybe there's good reason for being disappointed in the casting choice of Michael Cera which strikes me (and if I'm reading right) many other people as just attempting to ride a so-hot-right-now "indie" films actor into free promo heat as opposed to actually finding someone with, I dunno, a little bit of fucking dramatic range and shit I don't even particularly disagree with you on most counts but for fuck's sake man stop acting like everybody with a different opinion to you hasn't actually considered their viewpoint and just needs to have the bleeding fucking obvious pointed out to them in the most smug way possible and they'll come around.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #96 on: 27 Apr 2010, 03:10 »

Oh for God's sake.

First, with regards to Nic Cage, even in his terrible films he's a joy to watch. The dude brings the same enthusiasm to Knowing and Ghost Rider as he did to Wild at Heart, Leaving Las Vegas and Raising Arizona. "Renaissance" was an awful word to use considering that Lord of War and The Weather Man weren't particularly bad films, just mediocre, but Bad Lieutenant is a fantastic film and his performance in it is as riveting and idiosyncratic as his roles in Adaptation were. Cage imbues each character with a personality, and it's usually their personality - the dude in Next takes on an attitude of grim determinism as the movie plays out, while the titular Bad Lieutenant is a lurching, amoral menace who is nevertheless focused on getting to the bottom of a case. Even in a movie as bad as Knowing, he's great. He becomes obsessed with the numbers, and that obsession bleeds into everything. There's an excellent scene where he rolls down his car window to look at something, except it's an automatic window so he remains perfectly motionless. But besides being a funny extension of the character's obsessive attributes, it's just a wonderful piece of physical levity.

Cage is a self-aware dude - he knows how funny his roles can be, and has said in interviews that scenes like the one in Wicker Man where he just straight-up punches a woman while wearing a bear suit is obviously going to be pretty funny. I guess if you don't like that it's your loss, but to be really cynical about someone who's on the screen having fun playing make-pretend seems counterintuitive to part of the reason that we go to movies, which is to revel in the joy of the filmic medium. Shit gets goofy in movies sometimes, and Cage invites us to enjoy the way things get goofy.

Also for real who gives a shit about the goofiness of his hair when Bad Lieutenant has one of the most brilliantly written, edited and performed interrogation scenes in movie history? The shot where the old ladies enter the room and Cage, hiding behind the door, pushes the door shut and begins to shave is absolutely incredible, and the scene only gets better from there. Nathan Rabin, who I'll quote here, does the scene better justice than I could:

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Nicolas Cage catches a lot of flak, much of it deserved, for squandering his talent on vacuous Jerry Bruckheimer productions and just-plain-foolhardy ventures like The Wicker Man, and his ostentatious style has won him more mockery than admiration of late. But I’ve always had a soft spot for hammy, late-period Cage, just like I have a soft spot for hammy, late-period Al Pacino, whose sublime preening livened up a couple of New Cult Canon entries in The Devil’s Advocate and Glengarry Glen Ross. I’d submit the spectacularly overheated scene above as Exhibit A in any argument for Cage’s merits, because he brings so much more to it than could possibly be suggested on the page. (Though if he’s responsible, kudos to Finkelstein for letting Cage castigate an old woman and her caretaker with the immortal line “You’re the fucking reason this country’s going down the drain!”) A few of my favorite touches: Cage appearing from behind the door, shaving with an electric razor, which projects an odd menace while suggesting how long he’s gone without sleeping or bathing; the four times he slaps the nurse’s hand (and the scolding, almost motherly way he does it) whenever she reaches for the oxygen line; and the way he works himself into a lather the longer he’s in the room. You’d expect common decency would shame him into apologizing for going Jack Bauer on a little old lady, but he just gets madder and madder and madder.

His hair looks ridiculous, but his character is played without restraint, without fear and without anything except sheer dedication to the character, the scene, and the film. As such you have a number of shots and scenes that emerge as remarkable, plot threads that interweave beautifully, and the sensation that the personality tying everything together is singular and remarkable and cohesive. It's an absolutely mesmerising film.

I'll readily admit that he sucked in Bangkok Dangerous, but that's because no amount of enthusiasm could have possibly saved that movie. It was a well of suck. Just like sometimes casting that seems dumb turns out to be great, casting that should save a shitty film won't necessarily keep it from sinking. That doesn't make Bad Lieutenant any worse, just like the Rock's role in Southland Tales doesn't make his role in Race to Witch Mountain any better.

As for the casting of Cera, everyone's calling it based on the typecast perception of the dude rather than what he's doing, and a couple of scenes in the trailer, which really don't look all that bad - the bit with him crushing the cup is pretty funny, and he seems frustrated but not Cera-stereotypically flustered when explaining to Ramona Flowers that he isn't a huge fan of dudes trying to kill him for dating a lady. Most of all, I've read Scott Pilgrim and frankly I don't really think anything Cera does in the trailer is a bad interpretation of the character. Maybe it's not exactly what you had pictured in your head but if the Twilight people can get over their mental image of Edward surely you can do the same, especially if it winds up being an accurate rendition of the character's traits, you know?

I'm not a huge fan of the Kantian notion of disinterest but the piling on of hate on this dude because of whatever rep he's earned rather than his role in a given film is pretty fucking tiresome. If I have to point out the obvious problems with this in a grating manner so that we can collectively stop having a knee-jerk reaction to seeing an actor then I'll goddamn do that. It's unseemly. If you don't like him fine whatever but I'm honestly sick of people climbing all over each other to declare him a shitty dude when he's done fine in a lot of work, from Arrested Development all the way up through Youth in Revolt, in which his performances were actually some of the most solid work in the movie.

In summary, there's a few hundred words, I should have been studying but instead I decided to post a bunch of stuff, everyone should collectively just relax about x person's involvement with y thing before freaking out over how It's Ruined Now, etc. etc. etc.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #97 on: 27 Apr 2010, 09:46 »

OK as usual it's time for my customary backpedal+clarification, such is my way after making any strong-worded post. Today it is in dot-points!

  • I wasn't really trying to impinge on Bad Lieutenant's quality because of the way Cage's hair looks. It is of course a brilliant film and Cage is amazing in it; it was really an excuse to just make the reference because it is one of my favourite Internet things ever and I was doing smarmy little comments for all the rest of the movies so hey
  • As previously stated it I agree with a lot of yr points, it's more the way you word them (here and elsewhere on the forum) that irks me
  • My opinions on how self-awareness of yr own suckitude in no way make up for said suckitude should be pretty well-known by this point

There's probably more here but that'll do for now
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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #98 on: 27 Apr 2010, 09:54 »

Hey guess what?



A really great director & all round awesome geek guy is helming this movie based on an awesome comic, holy moly it's live action as well! How exciting & wonderful!

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Re: Scott Pilgrim and the Movie That Makes Me Nervous
« Reply #99 on: 27 Apr 2010, 10:06 »

Hey Johnny between this and yr behaviour in the poutine thread I am thinking that maybe a lot of yr angst stems from yr uneasy relationship with yr nationality so I don't know if you have accepted that is the case or not but you might want to take a bit of time to meditate over that before you heart someone you love...

...like Geddy Lee or Don Cherry or Nardwuar or something
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