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Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:44 »

Elite Eight!



Full bracket: here

Here's what I noticed from Round Three:
-- Biggest margin of victory: #15 Kind of Blue over #6 Blue Train by 22 votes (also the biggest upset)
-- Closest match: #8 Unknown Pleasures over #12 Happy Songs for Happy People by 5 votes
-- Lowest seeded colour: Yellow, with an average seed of 10.75
-- Highest seeded colour: Blue, with an average seed of 5.25
-- Only ONE first seed left (Low - Things We Lost in the Fire)

Again, you have until 20:00GMT on Monday, 20 April 2009 to vote. (Depending on, as usual, my RL schedule.)

ONE ADDITIONAL POINT OF NOTE - with your vote, please state your preference of a PUBLIC or PRIVATE Final Four and Championship vote.
-- In a PUBLIC vote, we'd do it the exact same way the past four rounds (including this one) have worked.
-- In a PRIVATE vote, everyone would PM me their votes. NO VOTES on the Round Five (Final Four) and Round Six (Championship) pages. My thinking is that people would be more likely to choose their actual favourite album rather than be swayed by the public commentary.

I am not advocating one method over the other - they both have their upsides and downsides. I just want to know everyone's preference.

Thanks,
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #1 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:47 »

BLUE
Dylan

YELLOW
Radiohead

GREEN
Beatles, but I don't like either that much.

RED
Low

And I'm for a private vote.  I think NMH's demise was partially due to a bunch of whiners who didn't want it to win and got other people to vote similarly.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #2 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:53 »

Blue

Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

Yellow

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

Green

The Beatles - Abbey Road

Orange

Low - Things We Lost in the Fire


Private vote.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #3 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:59 »

COLOUR 1
n/a

COLOUR 2
Miles Davis

COLOUR 3
Abbey Road

COLOUR 4
London Calling

I think this should be a public vote. Otherwise it's just going to be the most boring list thread in the history of list threads. Surely the point of an exercise such as this should be people arguing and debating and disagreeing with each other about how good a particular album is or why it deserves to win or why it deserves to lose - the journey is more interesting than the destination, folks!
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #4 on: 14 Apr 2009, 15:10 »

Sgt. Pepper's…
Unknown Pleasures
Kind of Blue
London Calling


PUBLIC.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #5 on: 14 Apr 2009, 15:11 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #6 on: 14 Apr 2009, 15:17 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #7 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:05 »

Sgt. Pepper's
n/a
Abbey Road
London Calling


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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #8 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:07 »

Bob Dylan
Radiohead
The Beatles
Low

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #9 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:33 »


BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Radiohead - OK Computer

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #10 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:39 »

Bringing It All Back Home
OK Computer
Unknown Pleasures
London Calling
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #11 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:51 »

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #12 on: 14 Apr 2009, 17:00 »

Blue:

Bringing It All Back Home

Green:

Abbey Road

Yellow:

It takes a nation...oh wait. Kind of Blue then.

Red:

London Calling

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #13 on: 14 Apr 2009, 17:33 »

Public vote next round for sure.
Anyway:

BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

ORANGE
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire

There were some tough choices here for me. Definitely the hardest round to pick since the first. Picking Sgt. Peppers over Dylan wasn't easy. If it had been The Free Wheelin' Bob Dylan, I woulda gone for that but as it was Bringing it All..., well as much as I like it, I guess I appreciate Sgt. Peppers more. Choosing Miles Davis over Radiohead was also extremely tough. I've loved Radiohead for a long time. They're one of the first bands I got into that wasn't bad pop-punk or worse so I have a lot of happy nostalgic feelings connected to their music. Still...it's frickin Miles Davis. I deliberated for a while over that one but I think I made the right choice. I didn't really want to vote for the Beatles twice. I hope they don't win it all. I like them, but they're overrated and I would hate to vote the same way as Rolling Stone would. That being said, I like Abbey Road a heck of a lot more than I like Unknown Pleasure so the vote was kinda a no-brainer even though I wish it had been otherwise. The easiest vote was the last. Low is great. This is their best album. The Clash were cool and all but I never think, 'man I would love to listen to The Clash right now.' My guess is that the next round will be Low vs. The Beatles and The Beatles vs. Miles Davis with a The Beatles vs. The Beatles final bracket...I hope that's not how it is.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #14 on: 14 Apr 2009, 17:53 »

I'm going to need to think for a bit before I can choose between Joy Division and The Beatles.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #15 on: 14 Apr 2009, 17:56 »

blue
Bob Dylan
yellow
Miles Davis
green
Joy Division
orange
Low

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #16 on: 14 Apr 2009, 18:12 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Pubic. errr uhh public.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #17 on: 14 Apr 2009, 18:27 »

BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

ORANGE
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #18 on: 14 Apr 2009, 18:31 »

Blue
Bringin it all Back Home

Yellow
Kind of Blue

Green
NA

Orange
London Calling


Definitely public votes.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #19 on: 14 Apr 2009, 18:38 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire


Public vote. If it were private we'd all just sit around waiting, bored for the winner to be announced. Besides I think we're all smart enough to know the merits of each album we're voting for anyways. ITAOTS isn't the greatest album of all time according to this board and we've just got to understand this fact. If it was the greatest album anyways wouldn't we all be praising it? Wouldn't it be deserved of the massive response it has (sceptically) received? The reason Jens was saying people to vote it down is specifically the reason why you're complaining it didn't win. Public opinion has swayed the masses both ways. I just know what I voted for and why. Frankly "On the Beach" was already voted out but I prefer it to most of whats here. I'm not complaining. So boring rant over.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #20 on: 14 Apr 2009, 18:42 »

I voted for a private vote because sometimes it is fun to be surprised, which I guess doesn't really stand up to the reasons people have put forth for a public vote. Maybe I will change my vote but it looks like it's not really necessary.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #21 on: 14 Apr 2009, 19:02 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan -- Dringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Radiohead -- Ok Computer

GREEN
Joy Division -- Unknown Pleasures

ORANGE
Low -- Things We Lost In The Fire

Public Vote.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #22 on: 14 Apr 2009, 19:28 »

My guess is that the next round will be Low vs. The Beatles and The Beatles vs. Miles Davis with a The Beatles vs. The Beatles final bracket...I hope that's not how it is.

It could actually be Sgt. Pepper's vs. Abbey Road, not as you described it. It's Green vs. Blue and Yellow vs. Orange in the Final Four.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #23 on: 14 Apr 2009, 19:31 »

Well, the way you did your diagram, it's BLUE Vs. YELLOW and GREEN Vs. ORANGE.

Sorry, I didn't pay attention.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #24 on: 14 Apr 2009, 19:32 »

No it's not.  Pay attention to the lines.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #25 on: 14 Apr 2009, 19:57 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

This. Also, public.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #26 on: 14 Apr 2009, 20:45 »

BLUE
Beatles- Sgt. Pepper's...

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire

public vote.  Much as I dislike the shouting and the opinions and whatnot, it really is too late to spring a private vote.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #27 on: 14 Apr 2009, 21:17 »

Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home
Radiohead - Ok Computer
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
The Clash - Londaon Calling
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #28 on: 14 Apr 2009, 21:18 »

Bringing It All Back Home
Miles Davis
Abbey Road
Things We Lost In The Fire

Also voting for a public vote

Dylan vs Sgt Peppers was a tough one because they're both profoundly overrated but decent enough albums, one by a band I admire deeply and love a whole bunch and one by a man I don't really care that much about, but I ultimately had to sit down and give then both a listen and decided Bob comes out on top based entirely on which I think is the better album.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #29 on: 14 Apr 2009, 22:13 »


Bob Dylan

Ň
Miles Davis


Joy Division


The Clash

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #30 on: 14 Apr 2009, 23:02 »

Blue
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

Yellow
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

Green
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

Orange
The Clash - London Calling

Public
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #31 on: 14 Apr 2009, 23:13 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Public.

If the Clash somehow win again Low, the only reasonable explanation is that not enough of you have heard that Low record, and are voting uninformed.  This is a bad move!
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #32 on: 14 Apr 2009, 23:45 »

Dylan
Davis
Beatles
Low
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #33 on: 15 Apr 2009, 00:16 »

Sgt.Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
OK Computer
Unknown Pleasures
London Calling
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #34 on: 15 Apr 2009, 04:00 »

I VOTE FOR PUBIC

BEATLES

MILES

BEATLES

LOW

I briefly considered voting for Dylan or Joy Division for the sake of not having two Beatles albums in the final four but in the end I just couldn't fault either album.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #35 on: 15 Apr 2009, 04:43 »

Bob Dylan

Miles Davis

The Beatles

The Clash

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« Reply #36 on: 15 Apr 2009, 08:30 »

I don't get the Sgt. Pepper's love. Granted, most would consider even a lesser Beatles album to be one of the greatest things ever made, but I'm not sure it would even make my top five Beatles albums. John's work on the album seems really lazy to me. I mean I'd let it win just for 'A Day In The Life' against many albums, but not on this particular poll. Bringing It All Back Home however, I think is Dylan's greatest work, seeing as it's the direct bridge between his protest and speed-fuelled electric eras.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #37 on: 15 Apr 2009, 10:27 »

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Public vote.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #38 on: 15 Apr 2009, 10:35 »

BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

ORANGE
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire

I'm gonna say Public, also what the fuck Blue Train is much better than Kind of Blue.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #39 on: 15 Apr 2009, 10:38 »

I don't get the Sgt. Pepper's love. Granted, most would consider even a lesser Beatles album to be one of the greatest things ever made, but I'm not sure it would even make my top five Beatles albums. John's work on the album seems really lazy to me. I mean I'd let it win just for 'A Day In The Life' against many albums, but not on this particular poll. Bringing It All Back Home however, I think is Dylan's greatest work, seeing as it's the direct bridge between his protest and speed-fuelled electric eras.


for me, it was the first Beatles album i ever heard in it's entirety and was aware that it was The Beatles so it sort of stuck in my mind and never left. i mean, i'm only 22 so when i was growing up all the Beatles albums had been out for quite a while and were fairly ubiquitous so most of the time i would know a Beatles song by heart but not even know that it was The Beatles until years later. this didn't happen with Sgt. Pepper's because most of those songs seemed to stay off the radio waves for the most part when i was a kid so it was like hearing a brand new band for the first time.

it was just a very influential album when i was young, and most of the music i listen to today can sort of be related or traced right back to Sgt. Pepper's in some way.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #40 on: 15 Apr 2009, 11:20 »

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #41 on: 15 Apr 2009, 13:37 »

I didn't even know people liked Abbey Road that much. Granted it is a Beatles album, but I'd always considered it kind of lesser compared to Rubber Soul and Revolver.  For me, choosing Unknown Pleasures over it was almost patently obvious.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #42 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:08 »

Blue
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Yellow
Radiohead

Green
Joy Division

Orange
The Clash

Public.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #43 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:15 »

I expected silly comments like, "The only reasonable explanation [why someone would vote for The Clash] is that not enough of you have heard that Low record, and are voting uninformed!"

Care to expand on why this is silly?

Because seriously, London Calling has managed to become really popular in spite of being a fairly boring album.  Maybe it was pretty cool when it came out, but so many albums from around the same time have aged much better.  I see no reason why it should continue to get the love it does.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #44 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:16 »

I didn't even know people liked Abbey Road that much. Granted it is a Beatles album, but I'd always considered it kind of lesser compared to Rubber Soul and Revolver.  For me, choosing Unknown Pleasures over it was almost patently obvious.

Abbey Road is my favourite Beatles album, by far. There's such a depth to it that, in my opinion, isn't found in either Rubber Soul or Revolver. Don't get me wrong, I love both Rubber Soul and Revolver (and to a lesser extent Sgt. Pepper's, but the depth argument can be made two-fold), but to me, Abbey Road is by far the premier Beatles album.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #45 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:17 »

I'm with Matt here.  Abbey Road takes the cake for me as far as The Beatles are concerned.  It's Sgt. Peppers that always struck me as a back runner in their catalogue.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #46 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:24 »

I expected silly comments like, "The only reasonable explanation [why someone would vote for The Clash] is that not enough of you have heard that Low record, and are voting uninformed!"

Care to expand on why this is silly?

Because seriously, London Calling has managed to become really popular in spite of being a fairly boring album.  Maybe it was pretty cool when it came out, but so many albums from around the same time have aged much better.  I see no reason why it should continue to get the love it does.

i voted for London Calling because, as much as i like Low, i really don't like that album at all. for me, it's all about I Could Live In Hope and pretty much none of their other stuff. i'm probably a minority in that respect though.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #47 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:27 »

My continuing education on other people's opinions. I'm also pretty surprised that of the Dylan albums that first started the one that made it this far was Bringing It All Back Home. I had previously had the impression Blood on the Tracks and Highway 61 were more popular, although I don't think I'd say I like it any less.  Blood on the Tracks got pretty fucked being seeded against Kind of Blue.  I suppose if people thought it deserved to win they would've voted for it, though.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #48 on: 15 Apr 2009, 15:00 »

Like you said, it's all about seeding.

The fact that some albums got it this far happened only because of the other albums they were placed against happened to be less popular.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
« Reply #49 on: 15 Apr 2009, 15:37 »

I'm sorry.  I was making the assumption that the members of the forum had taste.







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