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Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
« Reply #100 on: 27 Sep 2009, 13:44 »

C'mon it had to happen sometime
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« Reply #101 on: 27 Sep 2009, 14:00 »

Yeah, but we're supposed to have a good team.  Hell, we're in the NFC East, and that means something for three teams.  I will put it all down to the Lions' first possession, too.  Our defense had every opportunity to step up and make those plays, and we never did.
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« Reply #102 on: 27 Sep 2009, 14:07 »

I'm kinda annoyed by it too; as per my "Always bet against the Rams and Lions" strategy, I had the Skins defense on my fantasy team this weak. Honestly guys, you face a human interception machine like Stafford and you can't force a single turnover? Really? If I wasn't absolutely destroying my opponents so far I'd be angry.
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« Reply #103 on: 27 Sep 2009, 14:09 »

The worst part is, there were times when our offense managed to step up.  Our defense never seemed to manage this feat.
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« Reply #104 on: 27 Sep 2009, 14:15 »

I'm not sure I would call 14 points stepping up
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« Reply #105 on: 27 Sep 2009, 14:17 »

I'm not saying for the entire second half, just for parts.
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« Reply #106 on: 27 Sep 2009, 15:51 »

Man. Holy shit.


I liked Vernon Davis better when he was still a bit of a head case.

It's about time he started pulling his weight. It looks like Singletary was finally able to smack some sense into him so he could show why we drafted him.

I could say something bitter here, but honestly this was more or less the result I expected. I didn't expect to be leading with half a minute left in the game, though. Hopefully nearly pulling off the upset will get us some respect, at least.
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« Reply #107 on: 27 Sep 2009, 16:10 »

Hey well now I feel better about losing to the Bengals last week
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« Reply #108 on: 27 Sep 2009, 16:12 »

It was a weird game, with both teams dodging some bullets. Things like the kick off return td and blocked field goals are hard to account for. Had the Vikings converted that 2nd quarter field goal the whole complexion of the game would have been different, since that was effectively a 10 point swing, but then again, that sort of thing does happen when you've got a rookie performing the crucial blocking assignment on the play, so it's hard to call it a complete fluke. I don't really feel like I learned anything about either team, to be honest, but that's easy for me to say since I already figured the 49ers were good enough to threaten the Vikings at home and I don't really believe in our special teams or coaching staff.

One thing that I thought was a bit annoying was how the announcers did their usual "Let's talk up the quarterback!" routine (in this case, Shaun Hill) when really it was Vernon Davis making a few circus catches that bailed out the offense. It's not every day you see a 250 pound man run straight down the field that fast, leap that high and then maintain possession despite defenders getting their helmets on the ball as he's coming down. The same thing happened to a lesser extent with Brett Favre and the game ending touchdown; the announcers just gushed about the throw but the catch was at least as impressive. I dunno, maybe I just notice these things because I'm a Minnesota fan, which essentially means I've been watching Cris Carter and Randy Moss bail out a new quarterback every year since I was 8 years old.
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« Reply #109 on: 28 Sep 2009, 03:32 »

I didn't see the lion's game (it wasn't broadcasted here) but I honestly believed that the Redskins were a better team than this. Colour me surprised ...
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« Reply #110 on: 28 Sep 2009, 05:17 »

I think the Redskins have all the parts to make a better team than they are it's just the parts aren't meshing properly.
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« Reply #111 on: 28 Sep 2009, 07:52 »

Well, we have one part that's making all the parts fall apart, and his name is Jim Zorn.  I actually thought Campbell looked pretty good yesterday, though he still has no awareness of the pocket and no idea where he's supposed to stand.  Jim Zorn is just not getting much out of his team, and I also have no idea why our defense couldn't stop anything.  They couldn't even put pressure on Stafford.  What the fuck?
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« Reply #112 on: 28 Sep 2009, 07:55 »

Especially considering how terrible everyone says Detroit's O-line is
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« Reply #113 on: 28 Sep 2009, 11:03 »

Hey, Tampa Bay Bucs.

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« Reply #114 on: 28 Sep 2009, 14:04 »

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« Reply #115 on: 28 Sep 2009, 14:31 »

Today Man City beat West Ham, which was the final game in a weekend accumulator bet I had on.

210 return from a 5 bet is alright I guess...
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« Reply #116 on: 29 Sep 2009, 09:32 »

Damn, Tommy. Nice haul!

My baseball team is currently limping its ass into the playoffs and playing like they don't want to actually play baseball. I'm honestly a little worried.
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« Reply #117 on: 29 Sep 2009, 12:04 »

Yeah, having two of your better starting pitchers our for a few games certainly doesn't help. That hit Lester took on the leg looked ridiculously painful.
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« Reply #118 on: 29 Sep 2009, 12:27 »

At least your team is in the playoffs
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« Reply #119 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:53 »

[...] and I also have no idea why our defense couldn't stop anything.  They couldn't even put pressure on Stafford.  What the fuck?

Didn't Washington invest $100 mill into that face stomper to get a better defence? Not working or not working yet?
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« Reply #120 on: 30 Sep 2009, 00:08 »

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« Reply #121 on: 30 Sep 2009, 01:46 »

That game is actually going to be on TV? zzzzz
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« Reply #122 on: 30 Sep 2009, 03:31 »

Hey! Of course that game is going to be on TV!
Mainly as an example of How Not To Play Football.
Alternatively it can be used to threaten recalcitrant players on other teams.
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« Reply #123 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:54 »

Hey, now that I have football minded people on the line, so to speak, I have a question.

It seems to me, from my over-seas perspective, that there are more coloured men in the NFL than there are white ones. Is that true and if so ... how come?
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« Reply #124 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:57 »

Because they're good? 
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« Reply #125 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:08 »

Yeah, having two of your better starting pitchers our for a few games certainly doesn't help. That hit Lester took on the leg looked ridiculously painful.

Some reporter had asked him how big the bruise was. Lester supposedly told the guy "it's the size of a baseball".
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« Reply #126 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:47 »

Because they're good? 

Okay ... are you saying that black men make better athletes?

'cause that'd be weird.
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« Reply #127 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:49 »

No, I'm saying that the ones that are there are there because they're good.  The white men are there because they're good.  I don't think it has anything to do with race at all for them to be in the positions they hold. 
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« Reply #128 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:58 »

No, I'm saying that the ones that are there are there because they're good.  The white men are there because they're good.  I don't think it has anything to do with race at all for them to be in the positions they hold. 

Okay, they're good. But it seems to me that there is a difference between the ration of black to white men within the NFL and within society as a whole. And that is odd. I would think that the percentages would be equal.
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« Reply #129 on: 30 Sep 2009, 08:05 »

It wouldn't say those things required private school, but funding for schools in poor areas is crap in the US so you're unlikely to get a decent education if you live in one. Training your body on the other hand can be done with minimal resources. Then you have getting into college, which is expensive but I understand US universities offer a lot of sports scholarships.

Are there any cultural differences? You're vastly more likely to see Asian athletes playing professional cricket than football in the UK, partly because of a cultural heritage of playing cricket since it was exported there in the colonial period and partly I think because football fans have an unfortunate reputation for harbouring some seriously unpleasant racist factions within their ranks.
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« Reply #130 on: 30 Sep 2009, 09:36 »

I also think it has to do with role models.  Black people tend to be more aggressive playing sports than other pursuits because they have more people to imitate.  This is also why I think there are so few female racing drivers.  I honestly can't think of a single reason that women shouldn't do as well as men in that sport, but there are no females in F1 (though, I hear one of the new teams next year is bringing in a woman), there are only a few in Indy Car, I don't really follow WRC and I actively avoid learning anything about NASCAR.

Didn't Washington invest $100 mill into that face stomper to get a better defence? Not working or not working yet?

He's doing great, but nobody else seemed to be able to do anything.  He also left the game for a bit due to an injury.

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« Reply #131 on: 30 Sep 2009, 09:39 »

I think Jens is absolutely correct, it's mostly an issue of the socio-economic divide between races in this country.
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« Reply #132 on: 30 Sep 2009, 12:01 »

Yeah, sports are believed by many to be an area where blacks have an advantage, if anything, (white men can't jump, anyone?) and obviously it's easier to get involved in sports than it is to go to the best schools, so socioeconomic circumstances are probably the biggest factor. Opportunity breeds players; just look at the baseball factory that is the Dominican Republic. If you're a coordinated young man from the Dominican Republic, someone's going to want to put a bat in your hand and so you end up with a surprising number of the world's pro ball players. There's also the fact that if you're the slightest bit black or even look kind of black, people tend to think of you as black, which is sort of funny considering how many athletes are actually of mixed heritages. I bet your average person off the street will always at least know "black" when asked about Tiger Wood's background, but the guy is also Thai and Chinese in equal measure, with a dollop of Dutch and Native American thrown in for variety. So you have to consider that the way we tend to categorize people skews things from the outset.

Which leads me to another point: there is probably a bit of a genetics involved, but that's different from saying blacks are better at sports in general. After all, the highest tier athletes are almost statistical outliers by definition. Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan in part because he had some physical gifts that are atypical of any group. But that said, Africans and people of recent African descent come from a population that features a much higher degree of genetic diversity than the populations the rest of us come from. After all, other ethnic groups are essentially just relatively small sub-samples of some original African population. So, if there is some magical confluence of traits out there that can result in say, a Shaquille O'Neal, then it's likely to be present in the African American population even if they are in the minority. That still leaves most blacks muddling around in mediocrity land with the rest of us, however, so skin color is still a horrible way of predicting success in well, anything.
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« Reply #133 on: 30 Sep 2009, 23:56 »

According to a 1997 study (which is the latest I've been bothered to find) 65% of players in the NFL are black. But to be honest, I don't see why what a players race has to do with anything. Whoopdy doo. It's about skill, not about ancestory.
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« Reply #134 on: 30 Sep 2009, 23:58 »

I noticed. I was interested.

I have to say that all of you bring up good points and I thank you for your answers. 
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« Reply #135 on: 01 Oct 2009, 06:51 »

Jesus guys can we go five minutes without having a sociology debate in this forum
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« Reply #136 on: 01 Oct 2009, 06:53 »

... sorry.

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« Reply #137 on: 01 Oct 2009, 08:14 »

Local hockey team kicks off its' season tonight against the Washington Capitals. I am effing PUMPED.
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« Reply #138 on: 01 Oct 2009, 08:29 »

Only 'til Ovy takes you down a peg.  :wink:

So folks, it's hockey season again and the Flyers are going for a run at the cup this year (hopefully). Should be a fairly simple start at Carolina tonight then on to greater things.
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« Reply #139 on: 01 Oct 2009, 10:18 »

CAPITALS!  *crosses fingers*

Sorry, I'm not used to having a team in my home city that's decent.
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« Reply #140 on: 01 Oct 2009, 10:21 »

Any time you want to send Michael Nylander back to Boston, I'll gladly accept him.
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« Reply #141 on: 01 Oct 2009, 13:41 »

Man, does someone in the NFL have a grudge against Denver? Their next 5 games are against the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Chargers, the Ravens and then the Steelers. I guess the 1972 Dolphins weren't available.
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« Reply #142 on: 01 Oct 2009, 14:38 »

The Cowboys could end up being a pretty nice victory for you guys (depending on how Romo's feeling that day) and the Seelers are not doing well at all this season.  Philip Rivers is my dad's boy, though.  Went to NC State, see.
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« Reply #143 on: 01 Oct 2009, 15:13 »

Eh, well, I'm a Vikings fan, not a Broncos fan; I just try and take notice of things like that when looking at the big picture. It's not every day that a team has a stretch like that. If they can keep the games competitive it's entirely possible that they could end up 4-4 and still be one of the better teams in the league.

As for the Steelers, that could still end up a very tough game, since they suffered a rash of injuries early and the game is 6 weeks away. I actually think the Bengals are pretty good this year, so losing by a combined 6 points in road games to them and Chicago doesn't hit me as really too big of a disaster, particularly since they had some key players banged up. After all, Pittsburgh could feasibly have Polamalu back and their running back situation sorted out better by week 6. They're a talented team with decent depth and they're well-coached. I could see them going on a bit of a run midway through the season as other teams get nicked up. A lot of the teams that have good records right now are paper thin in some areas. For example, the Bengals are going to be in sorry shape if their defensive backs get any more beat up.
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« Reply #144 on: 02 Oct 2009, 01:13 »

And I personally don't think that the pats look great this year, so maybe there's something there too.
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« Reply #145 on: 02 Oct 2009, 01:16 »

The Chargers are falling apart at the seams. Maybe they'll get their act together by the time Denver gets to 'em, but somehow I doubt it. Norv Turner needs to be gone for that team to get anywhere.
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« Reply #146 on: 02 Oct 2009, 06:41 »

Bruins, what the hellllllllllll
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« Reply #147 on: 02 Oct 2009, 08:06 »

Norv Turner needs to be gone for that team to get anywhere.

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« Reply #148 on: 02 Oct 2009, 12:04 »

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« Reply #149 on: 02 Oct 2009, 12:16 »

The only thing I really like about the Chargers is Rivers. He is probably even better than people give him credit for. That offense he's in calls for three types of plays: Hand it to the running back, dump it off to the running back or make a ridiculously high difficulty long pass. Over ten percent of his pass attempts went for over 20 yards last year, which is ridiculous. I'm still not all that terribly sure he's really worse than Drew Brees; the situations are too different for me to feel comfortable trying to make a comparison.
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