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Title: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Sep 2009, 09:49
FUCKING EXTRA TIME.
FUCKING BACONFACE.
>:-0
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Sep 2009, 09:52
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/345/fergiewiley.jpg)

FFS!
>:-0
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: StaedlerMars on 20 Sep 2009, 10:01
I feel like with Man U. it's always in extra time.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Sep 2009, 10:05
4 minutes of extra time and they score half way through the 95th.
Then Sir Cunt has a right good laugh with the 4th official.
Rugby's starting to look less and less corrupt.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: snalin on 20 Sep 2009, 10:42
Foosball?
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: tommydski on 20 Sep 2009, 12:30
Suddenly Mark Hughes is complaining about the amount of added time being played at Old Trafford, eh? It didn't seem to bother him that much when he played there under Ferguson.  :wink:

In more important news, Leeds are top of the league (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/table/default.stm).
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: schimmy on 20 Sep 2009, 12:50
Awesome, Tommy, I have only moved to Leeds today and I already have something I can pull out in conversation if anyone is silly enough to try to talk sport with me.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: tommydski on 20 Sep 2009, 13:40
Curiously, Leeds United are yet to lose a game this season in any competition. They have played fifteen games, won nine and drawn six.

On Tuesday night they face Liverpool in the Carling Cup. Obviously Leeds are now two divisions below Liverpool but they have a young, improbably determined team looking for a Premiership scalp to cap an incredible start to the season. I tried to get a ticket to see the match at Elland Road but it's completely sold out, which means that there will be forty thousand people there to see an unbeaten League One team take on an opposition who may well field a team containing several of the best players in the world. There could be a real upset.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Ozymandias on 20 Sep 2009, 13:44
PEOPLE GONNA DIE

I wanna watch. I wonder if there's anyway I can stream it here.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: StaedlerMars on 20 Sep 2009, 13:47
That looks like it might be an awesome match.

I might watch that.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Sep 2009, 14:07
I give Leeds a good shot to beat Liverpool in that game.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: tommydski on 20 Sep 2009, 15:20
The game is being shown on Sky, I will post links to streams on Tuesday. Could genuinely go either way.

The first time I saw this match in person was in 1992 for the Charity Shield match at the old Wembley stadium. Leeds won 4-3 and the fabled Eric Cantona scored a dramatic hat-trick. I remember in the last five minutes of the game the Leeds fans started to rather cheekily sing the classic Liverpool anthem 'You'll Never Walk Alone'. Undeterred, the Scousers joined in and the game finished with all 80,000 people singing the song at the top of their lungs. Probably one of the most memorable experiences of my life.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Sep 2009, 15:50
My most memorable football memory was also at the old wembley.
Division Two playoff final, one match for all the marbles (the marbles being promotion into division 1).
If City lost they could possibly sink into obscurity as players lose faith.
Gillingham score in the 81st minute and then again in 85th.
Bloody hell!
Dispondant fans begin to trapse out grumbling things like "typical city".
City score in the 88th minute, a few people caught on the stairs return to their seats, this could be interesting.
5 minutes of injury time on the board, Blue Moon starts to get louder as a few fans start to believe that tying this thing up isn't impossible.
90+3 and big boot football never looked so good, from the long ball the Mighty Goat lays it neatly in the path of Dickov who scores an amazing finish, 2-2.
Extra time was innocous so here comes the lottery of the penalty shootout
City score their first, Weaver saves!
City hit both posts with their second, Gillingham blast it over the bar
The next two are both comfortably scored, 2-1
Edgehill scores his penalty setting it up for some heroics for the young Nicky Weaver
He palms the Gillingham penalty around the post and sets of running.
YOU BEAUTY!
What a game.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Rudi Voller on 20 Sep 2009, 16:05
I suppose I should preface this by stating that I am a Crewe Alexandra fan. As a Crewe fan growing up in Glasgow, opportunities for making it to matches are few and far between. When I was 13 or 14 my parents graciously decided to take a detour on the drive back home from holiday so that a family friend could take me to see a game. It was an FA Cup 3rd round tie. I didn't care that it was only against Telford United (a non-league non-entity), I was going to see My Team. I would have watched them play anyone.

We kicked off, and passed the ball about for the first couple of minutes, looking pretty comfortable until out centre back gave the ball away. Telfrod broke and won a corner. Our defence proceeded to stand still as a 5 foot 6 winger nodded the ball in at the near post. It didn't really seem like it mattered, they were only non-league. We'd comfortably win it regardless.

We played them off the park for the remaining 87 minutes, but every chance seemed to fall to our back-up centre forward, Michael Higdon. Every single chance seemed to end up a dozen yards over the bar. I have never forgiven Higdon for making that 90 minutes one of the least enjoyable of my sporting life.

That is my most memorable sporting memory. Sometimes I wish I'd taken the easy way out and just become an Auld Firm fan.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Sep 2009, 16:09
Why're you a Crewe fan in Glasgow?
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Rudi Voller on 20 Sep 2009, 16:25
Well, my parents both hate football, so I first got into it when a family friend who lives in Crewe took me to a game while we were visiting. I was only 5 or 6, and I just got the bug I guess. I don't think they were expecting me to get into things quite so much and still seem bewildered whenever I visit and they find I still follow them.

That first game I saw them play, they lost 2-0 to Swindon. No idea why I thought supporting them would be a good idea.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Sep 2009, 20:27
Could genuinely go either way.

Because soccer is a ridiculous sport where one or two lucky goals or unfortunate fuck-ups- things that happen in a matter of seconds-  can be the difference in the entire 90+ minute match?
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: amok on 20 Sep 2009, 20:39
No, soccer is some american thing. Football on the other hand, is a ridiculous sport where one or two lucky goals or unfortunate fuck-ups- things that happen in a matter of seconds-  can be the difference in the entire 90+ minute match?

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2d0zblt.jpg)

(Chelsea will still win the league at this rate.)
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: StaedlerMars on 21 Sep 2009, 01:33
Can we make this a general sports thread and now talk about how the Jets beat the Pats?

Yeah, I want to talk about that.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: tommydski on 21 Sep 2009, 02:02
It will be really quite interesting to see if Chelsea can win the league considering the fact that they aren't allowed to sign any new players, including I think loan players, for violating the rules during an attempt to sign a young player from Lens. If Didier Drogba is in fact injured, they might have to adjust a bit. With Joe Cole coming back and Yuri Zhirkov nearing fitness, it shouldn't be too much of an issue. My guess is they will play Joe Cole off Nicolas Anelka or utilise Salomon Kalou. I hope they win the league, I like Carlo Ancelotti.

Quote from: Rudi Voller
I suppose I should preface this by stating that I am a Crewe Alexandra fan.

I remember last season I saw Leeds versus Crewe at Elland Road. The game was pretty much even aside from Leeds scoring three improbably long range efforts (http://vimeo.com/3082752) in the first half. It ended up being 5-2, which flattered Leeds somewhat given the performance. Later in the season, Crewe almost recovered from another first half three goal deficit (http://vimeo.com/4414859) at Gresty Road, the game ending 2-3 to Leeds. Here's hoping Crewe are back in League One next year anyway.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: David_Dovey on 21 Sep 2009, 02:33
Can we make this a general sports thread and now talk about how the Jets beat the Pats?

Yeah, I want to talk about that.

No, because I remember what happened last time we had a sports thread.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Hat on 21 Sep 2009, 02:34
everyone had a great time and nothing bad happened?
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: est on 21 Sep 2009, 02:48
This is possibly the first time I've ever enjoyed Man U winning.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Reed on 21 Sep 2009, 06:25
Can we make this a general sports thread and now talk about how the Niners beat the Seahawks?

Yeah, I want to talk about that.

FYP
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Sep 2009, 07:13
UNIIIIIITED! UNIIIIIITED! UNIIIIIITED!


(psst, America. You now show EPL games on ESPN and Fox Soccer, how was this game not on?)
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: amok on 21 Sep 2009, 10:33
It will be really quite interesting to see if Chelsea can win the league considering the fact that they aren't allowed to sign any new players, including I think loan players, for violating the rules during an attempt to sign a young player from Lens. If Didier Drogba is in fact injured, they might have to adjust a bit. With Joe Cole coming back and Yuri Zhirkov nearing fitness, it shouldn't be too much of an issue. My guess is they will play Joe Cole off Nicolas Anelka or utilise Salomon Kalou. I hope they win the league, I like Carlo Ancelotti.

They played an 18-year old Italian from the Academy whose name I can't remember recently in Europe, and they have Sturridge is it, from Man City.  Assuming the transfer ban holds, and they have to operate as if it will until proven otherwise, I think they're going to be a bit more adventurous than most EPL clubs at blooding youngsters all of a sudden. They've got plenty of options up front, as do all the big teams, just most are largely unproven.   As you said though their default plan B will almost certainly be a 4-4-2 with Anelka and Kalou up top.

The crunch time for Chelsea is going to be the ACN. At the moment they look casual and they've got enough of a squad to get by without signing anyone in January, so the only major factors for them regarding this season are losing their African players for 4-5 games, and any long term injuries. Agreed about Carlo too; I never thought I'd say this but if anyone wins the league this year that isn't us, I'd like it to be Chelsea.

Next season is another situation altogether.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Yayniall on 21 Sep 2009, 16:31
Sturridge is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.
He needs somebody to take them under his wing and tell him to shut up. Terry or Lampard could do the trick I guess.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 21 Sep 2009, 16:56
SPORTS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnI4RObVzVI)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Sep 2009, 17:34
It depresses me that none of the Americans on the forum really give a crap about tackle football. I mean, normally, such a thing wouldn't really bother me, but my local NFL team (the Minnesota Vikings) has a man who can be referred to as Purple Jesus on national television without anyone really feeling put out. He's pretty good.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 21 Sep 2009, 17:43
Also Jared Allen's mullet.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Sep 2009, 17:52
Any time your team can trade for a guy with three DUIs and a mullet, you have to do it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 21 Sep 2009, 19:14
It depresses me that none of the Americans on the forum really give a crap about tackle football. I mean, normally, such a thing wouldn't really bother me, but my local NFL team (the Minnesota Vikings) has a man who can be referred to as Purple Jesus on national television without anyone really feeling put out. He's pretty good.

Hey, my best friend of 5 years is a hardcore Vikings fan (actually, her whole family is). I myself, being originally from Chicago, am a diehard Bear. High-five for both our teams having awesome quarterbacks (Favre, Cutler) and halfbacks (Peterson, Forte) for once.

Also we should get wasted and beat up some cheeseheads
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 21 Sep 2009, 19:33
Can't nobody touch Frank Gore.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 21 Sep 2009, 19:37
Frank Gore is the Inonvenient Truth.
I'm a Bengals fan, go running game and beating up on the Packers' offensive line.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Tyler on 21 Sep 2009, 19:49
Mark Sanchez is pretty.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Sep 2009, 19:53
I love how Bears and Vikings fans can come together in mutual distaste for cheeseheads. That's why I thought it was kinda funny when when some idiot writer at ESPN said that the only thing that could have been worse than Favre going to the Vikings would have been if Favre went to the Bears. Clearly, he doesn't understand the midwest. I know that Bears-Packers is the oldest rivalry in football and all, but at the same time, at least the Packers fans tend to have a grudging respect for Chicago due to their shared history. I think if Favre had gone to the Bears somehow, Packers fans would have been super depressed and secretly worried about how the season would play out.

But Favre going to the Vikings? I know Packer fans who reacted like they found out their mom just hooked up with Ron Jeremy. It's just disgust and horror.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Sep 2009, 19:59
You know, it's telling that I have no problem implying that the Minnesota Vikings are the sleazy washed up pornstar of the NFL. But between Randy Moss, the Love Boat, StarCaps, Brad Childress's pedo-stache, the Whizzinator incident, and the 1998 season all happening within my lifetime, I feel like it's justified.


Consider that our continued NFL success hinges in part on this man remaining sober:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_jf4jdkNITPs/SVr0zA2VTMI/AAAAAAAABw8/bNpx-DbOlSk/s720/DSC_0106.jpg)



That picture was taken for an interview.
Title: Re: WE WOZ ROBBED
Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Sep 2009, 20:16
Can we make this a general sports thread and now talk about how the Niners beat the Seahawks?

Yeah, I want to talk about that.

FYP

Hell yeah, 2-0. Both against division teams, too. And we're playing the Rams twice, so that's two automatic wins at the very least. Minnesota next week will be a tough game though, Adrian Peterson is a fucking monster.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Sep 2009, 20:19
Also Alex, I think the Bengals still have the Vikings beat for sleaziest team in the NFL, just when you consider the cumulative number of felons they've employed for the past decade.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 21 Sep 2009, 20:21
My roommate is a really big seahawks fan, so I gave him so much shit for it on sunday.

It was great.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Sep 2009, 20:27
It wasn't even fucking close, either. Seattle had one decent drive the entire game, capped off by that lame little 1-yard TD flip. I fucking love Patrick Willis, hands-down the best thing to come out of the Nolan era. Not that he had a whole lot of competition, but hey.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 21 Sep 2009, 20:47
Seattle needs to revamp themselves, seriously. They've got no one anymore, especially since Hasselbeck has what, a fractured rib now? I live here, and I can't wait to wear my Bears colors around next weekend when Cutler/Forte/Knox come to town and destroy babies.

I love how Bears and Vikings fans can come together in mutual distaste for cheeseheads. That's why I thought it was kinda funny when when some idiot writer at ESPN said that the only thing that could have been worse than Favre going to the Vikings would have been if Favre went to the Bears. Clearly, he doesn't understand the midwest. I know that Bears-Packers is the oldest rivalry in football and all, but at the same time, at least the Packers fans tend to have a grudging respect for Chicago due to their shared history. I think if Favre had gone to the Bears somehow, Packers fans would have been super depressed and secretly worried about how the season would play out.

But Favre going to the Vikings? I know Packer fans who reacted like they found out their mom just hooked up with Ron Jeremy. It's just disgust and horror.

That's true. The rivalries are very different, between all the teams in our division really. Packers-Bears are two of the oldest teams in the league and have an epic, heartbreaking, riot-enducing rivalry to match. The Bears/Vikings rivalry is more like two brothers duking it out for funsies. Ffrom what I know, whereas Bears fans respect the Packers, Vikings fans just outright hate them. And I think that sparks a lot of mutual bad feelings between both those teams, and could lead to more ill-feeling about their ex-star QB going over to them.

That being said, when I was watching the Bears-Packers season opener last weekend, I saw a helluva lot of cheese heads wearing the number "4," so who knows. It could be a very vocal minority that is horrified by the purple Favre is wearing, and the rest of the fans could just not care / had been desensitized by the Jets thing.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: JD on 21 Sep 2009, 20:50
I don't care about sports at all.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Sep 2009, 20:52
Also Alex, I think the Bengals still have the Vikings beat for sleaziest team in the NFL, just when you consider the cumulative number of felons they've employed for the past decade.

It's a tough call, really. To me, the Vikings-Ron Jeremy comparison still seems a bit more apt. They're both fairly harmless and rather embarrassing as opposed to being criminals and both are technically successful in their fields (the Vikings are top 10 by win percentage) yet have never actually accomplished a damned thing worth mentioning. Whereas the Bengals are just kind of well, the Bengals.

From what I know, whereas Bears fans respect the Packers, Vikings fans just outright hate them. And I think that sparks a lot of mutual bad feelings between both those teams, and could lead to more ill-feeling about their ex-star QB going over to them.

Oh, definitely. Vikings fans love to antagonize the Packers. Plus, remember that I compared the Packers to someone who found out their mom is sleeping with Ron Jeremy, not to say, a betrayed spouse. Most Packer fans I know still love Brett Favre and aren't about to disown him. They just realize that they will never, ever hear the end of this if the Vikings continue to do well under Favre and there's no real comeback because Vikings fans are completely shameless. Also consider that I mostly know Packer fans who have the misfortune of living in Minnesota right now. There is no escape.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: JD on 21 Sep 2009, 20:57
on a side note I think it would be great if there was a team called the aristocrats.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 21 Sep 2009, 20:58
It's a tough call, really. To me, the Vikings-Ron Jeremy comparison still seems a bit more apt. They're both just rather embarrassing rather than criminals and both are technically successful in their fields (the Vikings are top 10 by win percentage) yet have never actually accomplished a damned thing worth mentioning. Whereas the Bengals are just kind of well, the Bengals.

I think the Vikings are the only team that could pull off having Daunte Culpepper (pre-injury), Cris Carter, and Randy Moss all starting and not win any championship game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 21 Sep 2009, 21:06
So, I grew up near DC.  That's right, I had the Orioles, the Bullets (now the Wizards), the Capitals, United and the Redskins.  Now I have the Nationals.  I thought it would be tough to improve on the Orioles, but I was wrong.  But the Redskins...  Jason Campbell is not playing well, despite the fact that we now have an offensive line (not a great one, but we actually have people playing the positions they are supposed to play).  Jim Zorn is not calling plays well, despite the fact that he insists nothing is wrong with the play calling.  Also, what the fuck happened to my goddamned awesome secondary?  I have a good team, I just need a quarterback and a head coach.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Sep 2009, 21:09
I like how we lost to the Falcons due to Gary Anderson's only miss of the year. That was when we had Cunningham instead of Daunte, granted, but people forget how good he was.


And we're playing the Rams twice, so that's two automatic wins at the very least.

In a related story, when I did my fantasy draft I skipped wasting a pick on a defense. Instead, I've been scooping up whoever plays against the Rams off the waiver wire. Not a great sign for the good people of St. Louis.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Sep 2009, 21:35
The Rams are so fucking terrible. They make the goddamn Raiders look competent by comparison, and the Raiders beat the Chiefs by a last minute field goal in a game that I have nicknamed the Futility Bowl.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 21 Sep 2009, 22:23
That game wasn't nearly as bad as the UW - WSU failbowl last year.

I'll give you a hint: they were both 0-10
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 21 Sep 2009, 23:39
Dear internet.

I am an Australian. Therefore there is only one kind of football (take a guess which one, it'll be fun). However, the new free sports channel is screening a few NFL games each week now and it's kind of interesting, in a tourist fascination-y kind of way. Therefore, I need advice; which team should I support this year? I have never been to America, so I have no allegiances one way or another.

Sincerely,
Ninjas.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 21 Sep 2009, 23:45
The only team worth supporting in the NFL, ever, is the Chicago Bears.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bears
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 22 Sep 2009, 00:06
Disagree strongly.

But then I decide who I support based on whose team colours I like best that week. It's nice watching US football from Europe. No ties, I can just enjoy the games.

Anybody else feel sorry for the cowboys? You built a big, modern, expensive stadium, you throw a party for 100.000 of your closest friends and a bunch of new yorkers led by the ugliest man in football come in and shut the festivities down ...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Sep 2009, 00:40
When I was a kid I went by that logic. I still really like the Atlanta Falcons because of it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 22 Sep 2009, 00:46
I'm a Tampa Bay fan through and through. We're doing shit and I love it. Because I know in about five years we'll be doing good again. Thats what I love about American Football.

I am also about to start playing left guard for this team (http://www.sussex-thunder.co.uk/). Either that or fullback. They made it into England's top division last year.

Then they got knocked out this year.

ROCK ON.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 22 Sep 2009, 00:47
Falcons are by definition cool. I mean ... they're Falcons!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 22 Sep 2009, 05:51
Later in the day links to streams of the Leeds Vs. Liverpool match will appear here (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=48854&part=sports).

Remember it is traditional for neutrals to cheer for the underdog so I expect everyone to be supporting Leeds tonight!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: amok on 22 Sep 2009, 05:56
remember it is traditional to laugh at leeds so fuck leeds

and fernando torres is so dreamy

Everyone watch Arsenal remind West Brom why they're not sharing a league with us with a bunch of French teenagers instead (no disrespect to West Brom though, that Middlesborough result was quite something)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2009, 06:11
Later in the day links to streams of the Leeds Vs. Liverpool match will appear here (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=48854&part=sports).

Remember it is traditional for neutrals to cheer for the underdog so I expect everyone to be supporting Leeds tonight!

Not if you gave me a million dollars.

Thanks for Cantona, Smith, Ferdinand, etc., however!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 22 Sep 2009, 06:46
Thanks for...Smith!

Really? Alan Smith?

You paid a million pounds for every goal he scored for you.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2009, 06:56
Thanks for...Smith!

Really? Alan Smith?

You paid a million pounds for every goal he scored for you.

The man was a hairstyle legend! No one in history has since rocked a fauxhawk held up with ONE'S OWN BLOOD.

(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00172/Alan_Smith_172033a.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 22 Sep 2009, 07:45
Wait?
You're not a Bradford City fan?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 22 Sep 2009, 08:26
The Rams are so fucking terrible.

Yeah, and the 'Skins beat them 9-7 at home.  Good God.  I wish my team had an offense.  I really do.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2009, 08:51
Wait?
You're not a Bradford City fan?

Oh, no, not really. "Valley Parade" is the name of my noise/drone metal project, taken from my love of soccer and wanting to have a cool sounding name that was steeped in tragedy and death and whatever. Originally, I was going to call it Unit 731 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731), but that seemed too oi! band namey.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: supersheep on 22 Sep 2009, 12:49
Later in the day links to streams of the Leeds Vs. Liverpool match will appear here (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=48854&part=sports).

Remember it is traditional for neutrals to cheer for the underdog so I expect everyone to be supporting Leeds tonight!

Not if you gave me a million dollars.

Thanks for Cantona, Smith, Ferdinand, etc., however!
It is also traditional for United fans to hate Liverpool fans. I think.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Barmymoo on 22 Sep 2009, 12:50
Who is it I support again? Something to do with ports or something... the logo is a sheep with a flag? Shane knows. Anyway, how are they doing?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 22 Sep 2009, 13:42
Who is it I support again? Something to do with ports or something... the logo is a sheep with a flag? Shane knows. Anyway, how are they doing?

A sheep with a flag is the logo of Preston North End. Does that ring a bell? If that is the team in question, they've started the season pretty well, sitting in 4th place in the 2nd tier after 8 games.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Barmymoo on 22 Sep 2009, 13:47
That's the one! Awesome.

(What does that mean?)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 22 Sep 2009, 14:18
I'm not entirely sure what it is your asking me to explain, but I'll assume it's "sitting in 4th place in the 2nd tier after 8 games". If not, my apologies. What that means is that Preston are in the second strongest league in England, the one immediately below the Premier League. In this league they have played 8 games so far this season, and are doing the 4th best.

In effect, you've ended up supporting (on current form) the 24th best football team in England.


Later in the day links to streams of the Leeds Vs. Liverpool match will appear here (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=48854&part=sports).


By all accounts pretty unlucky night for Leeds. I couldn't get any of the streams to work, so everything I heard is second hand, but it would seem that Leeds more than held their own against a pretty strong looking Liverpool line-up. Shame they couldn't convert a chance. I had Bradley Johnson down to score as well.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 22 Sep 2009, 14:31
Disagree strongly.

But then I decide who I support based on whose team colours I like best that week. It's nice watching US football from Europe. No ties, I can just enjoy the games.

Anybody else feel sorry for the cowboys? You built a big, modern, expensive stadium, you throw a party for 100.000 of your closest friends and a bunch of new yorkers led by the ugliest man in football come in and shut the festivities down ...

49ers-Cowboys is a big American football rivalry, so I'm actually reveling in it. Watching Tony Romo go into full-on self-destruct mode is entertaining every time. Also, fuck Jerry Jones and his gaudy piece of shit stadium.

Ryan, I didn't know that you were a Bucs fan. Are you gonna go to the game at Wembley this year? The Patriots aren't looking so hot after going 1-1 and almost losing the first game to the Bills.
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Post by: scarred on 22 Sep 2009, 14:37
Well it's typically hard for the Patriots to win without their normal dose of cheating
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 22 Sep 2009, 14:37
Also, the Bills aren't looking as bad as they could be this year.

49ers-Cowboys is a big American football rivalry

As is Cowboys-Skins (bigger, I'd say).  I'm pretty happy, too.
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Post by: tommydski on 22 Sep 2009, 14:42
By all accounts pretty unlucky night for Leeds. I couldn't get any of the streams to work, so everything I heard is second hand, but it would seem that Leeds more than held their own against a pretty strong looking Liverpool line-up. Shame they couldn't convert a chance. I had Bradley Johnson down to score as well.

I watched in on the television and Leeds were absolutely robbed. It was one way traffic for most of the game and honestly, that wasn't the result they deserved. It's not a humiliating defeat by any stretch of the imagination but it's an utterly frustrating one because Leeds should have won that game.

In the first half Jermaine Beckford scored but our other striker Luciano Becchio toed it in on the line for absolutely no reason. It was already going in, I'm sure it was instinct for him to make sure. Unfortunately that made him offside from the point that Beckford headed it forward. It might even have been over the line when Becchio touched it but I can't blame even multiple replays were inconclusive so I have to say that the officials got it right. There was no need at all for him to touch it. It was already a goal. You had to expect Liverpool to score once and it should have been a draw at that point.

Then again, losing by one goal to a team which ended the game with Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard and Glen Johnson all being brought on to hold the lead isn't so bad, especially when you're in the third division. It's just a bitter pill to swallow because Leeds played so well on the night. Still top of the league though, that's what counts.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 22 Sep 2009, 14:54
Also, the Bills aren't looking as bad as they could be this year.

That's definitely true. Too bad Trent Edwards is a Stanford grad, or I'd feel better about him succeeding.

And yeah, Cowboys-Skins and Cowboys-Giants are definitely bigger, because you guys are in the same division and all. The Niners-Cowboys rivalry didn't really start until the late 70s and through the 80s, when they were both constantly in the playoffs and thus matched up a lot. Since the early 90s, one team or the other has usually sucked so it hasn't been as big of a deal.

But basically, I think we can all agree that the Cowboys can go fuck themselves because they're arrogant shitheads. America's Team my ass.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 22 Sep 2009, 14:56
Yeah.  Do you remember last year when everyone was all OMG COWBOYS!  And they always had that "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD adverts?  Then there was the first Redskins/Cowboys game of the season and we won, and after that they were all advertising "History of the Washington Redskins" DVDs.  Then the Redskins promptly started losing because Jim Zorn can't recognize that sometimes he does things wrong, and ESPN had no clue what team to advertise, so they stopped.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 22 Sep 2009, 14:59
Watching the Cowboys fall apart at the end of last season was one of the purest moments of schadenfreude I've ever had in watching sports. If I had access to a television last Saturday when Washington beat USC, that may have been up there.
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 22 Sep 2009, 15:13
Ryan, I didn't know that you were a Bucs fan. Are you gonna go to the game at Wembley this year? The Patriots aren't looking so hot after going 1-1 and almost losing the first game to the Bills.

I will be at the Wembley game, along with my dad (a poor Rams fan). I've been at the last two games so far, and even participated in the London Victoria flash mob we held last year. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmpyBeWY4A) You can just make me out at about the 45 second mark, halway up the video on the very left edge. I'm in a big black coat. That was a fun day.
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Post by: Alex C on 22 Sep 2009, 15:25
Any time the Bills do OK I feel pretty good about it. They opened the '90s by rolling off 4 consecutive Super Bowl losses. Considering that, Bills fans handle themselves with a fair bit of dignity. Well, either that, or a large portion of the fanbase is still catatonic. In either case, I still like them better than Dallas fans.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 22 Sep 2009, 16:17
Well, the good thing about the Bills sucking is that everybody who is a Bills fan is a Buffalo Bills fan.  The Cowboys have attracted a lot of fans who aren't Dallas fans, if that makes any sense.

p.s.  Living in Western New York, I get a lot of info on the Bills.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 22 Sep 2009, 21:56
Watching the Cowboys fall apart at the end of last season was one of the purest moments of schadenfreude I've ever had in watching sports. If I had access to a television last Saturday when Washington beat USC, that may have been up there.

If I understand correctly they fall apart at the end of every season. Is Romo unable to win play-off games?
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Post by: tommydski on 23 Sep 2009, 12:43
On closer inspection, Beckford didn't even get a touch on the ball that ended up in the back of the Liverpool net last night. It was actually the goalkeeper, which means that the Becchio touch was irrelevant. Could have been a very different game if that goal had been allowed.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 23 Sep 2009, 16:12
Watching the Cowboys fall apart at the end of last season was one of the purest moments of schadenfreude I've ever had in watching sports. If I had access to a television last Saturday when Washington beat USC, that may have been up there.

If I understand correctly they fall apart at the end of every season. Is Romo unable to win play-off games?

So far, yes. Last year was especially sweet because they were 8-4 before losing 3 of their final 4 games to miss the playoffs entirely, including a last-week blowout where Romo completely melted down.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Sep 2009, 07:16
Who is it I support again? Something to do with ports or something... the logo is a sheep with a flag? Shane knows. Anyway, how are they doing?

Preston, but I thought you'd switched to Atletico Madrid, May? They have a bear climbing an apple tree as a club crest.
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Post by: tommydski on 26 Sep 2009, 11:53
Leeds won again today to remain top of the league.

Due to Chelsea's loss today, only Leeds and Charlton remain unbeaten in English football.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 26 Sep 2009, 13:43
More importantly you beat the Franchise at their place with a last minute goal. I have no real investment in League One at all this year, but that made me smile.

Looking good for Leeds this year though. You don't seem quite as reliant on Beckford this year, which can only be a good thing. Will you manage to hold onto him after January though? Can't really see you struggling if you keep the squad you've got, but I seem to say that every year about Leeds.
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Post by: tommydski on 26 Sep 2009, 14:23
I fully expected Charlton to win the league this year but I'm confident Leeds will seize the second place spot for automatic promotion. Nobody wants it more this year, I guarantee it. We're top of the league now but today was the second in a month of hard fixtures (Liverpool was the first). If we get through the next five games and we're still in the top two, we'll go up for sure. The next week is essentially pivotal for deciding who will be top at Xmas. On Tuesday we face Carlisle at home, whereas Charlton have a difficult fixture away at Colchester. Then on Saturday Charlton have to come to Elland Road. If we win both games and Charlton don't win at Colchester, we could open up a gap of eight points. Of course there will be our usual mid-season lull but I guarantee we will finish the season strong because it's a Leeds tradition of sorts.

Honestly, our reserves are good enough to get promotion this year so our first team has no excuses. We've got an excellent manager now who has shown on several occasions this season alone that he is savvy enough to make the right substitutions to win games. I doubt anyone will leave in the next transfer window because there's a real desire in our young players to see this promotion job through. I'm more concerned about losing Robert Snodgrass than Jermaine Beckford right now because the former is inevitably about to become a Scottish international and though he's not at the top of his game right now (despite winning the game today), he's almost certainly our most promising bit of talent. Last year he only played sporadically and produced eleven goals and eighteen assists. The best thing about having Fabian Delph last season was that it distracted people away from Snoddy. That and we got four to six million for a player who occupied a position now filled by Bradley Johnson, who has already scored as many goals in eight games as Delph did all season last year.

I like Jermaine Beckford but he's not as important as people make out to Leeds. He's been unlucky to have two perfectly good goals disallowed in the last two games. Beckford won't leave Leeds for two important reasons. Firstly, he doesn't want to - apparently he doesn't talk to the press but those who actually train with him will tell you that his ambition is to play for Leeds in the Premiership (I don't think he will, I reckon he might even be allowed to leave if we get promoted because we'll be able to afford a proven Championship striker by then) and the speculation doesn't interest him. The only reason he didn't get a new contract was because I think Leeds are willing to let him walk at the end of the season once we've achieved promotion so they don't feel the need to spend this year paying him inflated wages which would only serve to upset his fellow players who would inevitably be on less money. Secondly, more importantly, he's not worth how much we would ask for him. Jason Scotland went to Wigan for £1.5 million pre-season and he's a better player than Beckford. We're asking for about £4 million. The only people with that much money are Premiership teams and who's going to piss away that kind of money on someone who might not (probably won't) cut it in the first tier of English football.

Anyhow, by this time next week it's going to be very interesting to see where Leeds are in the table. If we get even four points from the next two games I will be very, very happy indeed.
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Post by: Alex C on 26 Sep 2009, 14:24
I have no idea what's going to happen against San Fran this week. None at all. The Vikings have played shoddy teams and yet they still let Brett Favre get knocked around. I hate Brad Childress. Adrian Peterson is nicked up. I don't think the Vikings are as good as people seem to think they are. Giving up 100 rushing yards to the Lions the week before hosting Frank Gore doesn't inspire confidence. EJ Henderson is a fast mlb, but he's also a knucklehead.

On the flip side, Frank Gore is nicked up. The Niners have only played NFC West games so far. But overall, I still think they're better than people give them credit for and they have some legit football players on defense.

Honestly, it's like a mirror match. I wouldn't be surprised if either QB shat the bed. Shaun Hill has hardly ever faced a decent defense, so it's hard to tell how good he is. On the other hand, he actually knows the Vikings D pretty well since he was one of our backups. Brett Favre is really fuckin' old and likes to throw interceptions. It'll probably just come down to whether Frank Gore or Adrian Peterson is feeling healthier.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 26 Sep 2009, 14:32
Also, more than most people in the NFL, Favre can run completely hot or completely cold (Romo's another one, but recently he's been cold a lot).  I still can't believe I'm scared about the Lions.  I think our defense will hold pretty well, but we just don't have an offense.  We've got all the pieces, but we can't put them together correctly.

p.s.  Farvre's daughter goes to my old college.  One of my buddies got fired from his job a couple of years ago due to a bet involving her.
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Post by: Alex C on 26 Sep 2009, 14:47
Hell, Adrian Peterson is like that too. Sometimes he's pretty ordinary and other times he outright breaks teams. San Francisco took him out of the game completely last time they played though.
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Post by: WestEnder67 on 26 Sep 2009, 16:17
Given all the football banter going on, I think I'll chip in.

Celtic - Top of the league, 4 points clear. Rangers are shite.  :-D

And before anyone rips on the quality of Scottish football, I am fully aware that it is complete garbage.  :roll:
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Post by: tommydski on 26 Sep 2009, 16:20
It's not as bad as people make out. I think most of those accusations are just snobbery. I live in Scotland now and I've seen my fair share of great games up here.

I hope Celtic win the league this year, they were unlucky to fall at the final hurdle last year.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 26 Sep 2009, 22:42
I have no idea what's going to happen against San Fran this week. None at all. The Vikings have played shoddy teams and yet they still let Brett Favre get knocked around. I hate Brad Childress. Adrian Peterson is nicked up. I don't think the Vikings are as good as people seem to think they are. Giving up 100 rushing yards to the Lions the week before hosting Frank Gore doesn't inspire confidence. EJ Henderson is a fast mlb, but he's also a knucklehead.

On the flip side, Frank Gore is nicked up. The Niners have only played NFC West games so far. But overall, I still think they're better than people give them credit for and they have some legit football players on defense.

Honestly, it's like a mirror match. I wouldn't be surprised if either QB shat the bed. Shaun Hill has hardly ever faced a decent defense, so it's hard to tell how good he is. On the other hand, he actually knows the Vikings D pretty well since he was one of our backups. Brett Favre is really fuckin' old and likes to throw interceptions. It'll probably just come down to whether Frank Gore or Adrian Peterson is feeling healthier.

Yeah, both teams are running-heavy with good defenses, and they're both kind of unknown quantities at this point since the Vikings have won games against two of the worst teams in the NFL and the Niners have only played division opponents and it looks like the Cardinals have seriously fallen off from last year. I'm hoping that the Niners can put pressure on Favre like we did with Warner in Week 1. If that happens and we can contain Peterson like we did last time, then I think it won't matter how badly our offense sucks, although I think in general Shaun Hill is better than people give him credit for. Basically, if the Niners can win in Minnesota I think people will finally start taking us seriously, but I'm not really expecting it. I hope they keep it close, at least. It's refreshing to see the team actually look energized again now that Singletary's taken over.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2009, 00:03
Yeah, I actually like Shaun Hill a fair bit. He's stupidly accurate, particularly on routine plays. I don't mean that as any sort of backhanded compliment either, since Daunte Culpepper used to blow routine plays all the time, which is why us Vikings fans were so quick to turn on him once he got injured and couldn't make up for it with big plays anymore. Culpepper had a unique talent for underthrowing players via putting too much onto the ball, which is frankly amazing when you think about it. He'd literally wing the ball straight into the ground at a bazillion miles per hour sometimes. Not really a concern with Shaun.

But to put things in perspective, Hill's got an 87 or so QB rating going on his career right now. That's really good. Better than McNabb, Garcia, Favre, Marino or Hasselbeck good. If he maintained it for the rest of his career it'd put him just outside of the all-time top 10 passer rating list. A bit of skepticism comes naturally when you pair that kind of results with that kind of sample size, particularly since the NFC West isn't exactly a murderer's row of passing defenses. I know he's competent and I'd take him over the majority of starters in the league in a heartbeat. But right now he worries me a bit rather than scares me.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 27 Sep 2009, 07:43
It's not as bad as people make out. I think most of those accusations are just snobbery. I live in Scotland now and I've seen my fair share of great games up here.

I agree with this sentiment but i find it depends a lot on the division in English football that your team is in (this probably sounds a bit snobby as well but there is reason behind it). The top division in English football is the best as there is the most money there and the best players from around the world are attracted to its clubs, whether they are big or small whereas the lower divisions cannot afford to pay these wages and, as such, the quality suffers a bit. That is not to say that the excitement in these games is higher or lower but simply that better players have more ability and therefore play better football.

However, the Scottish top division contains clubs that would be likely to span the top 3 divisions of English football and this is what makes the quality of the games suffer. Celtic and Rangers have the potential to be as good as some of the English top division teams (although this is debatable) but the smaller teams like Kilmarnock and St. Mirren would likely find it a struggle to play in the 2nd tier of English football, maybe even the third. It is a shame that this is the case as Scottish football fans are very passionate about their teams and with Scottish teams having done well in European competition in the past it is difficult to let go of past glories.

Now, to put this in perspective, i am a lifelong Liverpool FC fan, a team that is one of the top 2 most successful teams in English football and one of the most successful in European competition also, so the way i look at lower league football is with the eyes of someone who is fortunate enough to watch a team that contains some of the world's best players week in, week out therefore the quality is always a bit lacking.

To move onto something a little different, this weekend's game against Hull (a 6-1 victory) showed the class of our best striker, a certain Fernando Torres (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enmPMEy0Jns&feature=related) with another hat-trick (first this season) to take him to 5 goals for the season in 7 games. Hat-trick goals here (http://www.livefootball.net/2009/09/25/liverpool-v-hull-live/).
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Post by: WestEnder67 on 27 Sep 2009, 08:34
It's not as bad as people make out. I think most of those accusations are just snobbery. I live in Scotland now and I've seen my fair share of great games up here.

I hope Celtic win the league this year, they were unlucky to fall at the final hurdle last year.
Celtic weren't that unlucky - we fucked it up big-style in the second half of the season.

Anyway, exiting self-flagellatory mode now.

Even though I prefer United to Liverpool, I have to admit that Torres is arguably the best striker in Europe. If the Scouse could get another world-class striker alongside him as well as some stronger back-ups to the players they already have (Kyrgiakos  :laugh:) then they could go that extra inch where they faltered last season.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2009, 10:27
Not exactly a good first quarter for the 49ers. A pair of 30 yard plays for AD and Favre, Frank Gore has limped off the field and the special teams guys have picked up a case of the jitters. It'd be nice if this could turn into a full-fledged ass kicking, but it's early.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2009, 11:40
I still don't understand how the Vikings special teams manage to make at least two bad plays per game. Particularly on returns.
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Post by: Reed on 27 Sep 2009, 11:51
Worst thing about living on the East Coast: having to follow Niners games over ESPN fucking Gamecast because it's not on TV over here.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2009, 13:20
Man. Holy shit.


I liked Vernon Davis better when he was still a bit of a head case.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 27 Sep 2009, 13:41
Worst thing about living on the East Coast: having to follow Niners games over ESPN fucking Gamecast because it's not on TV over here.

Sports bars.  Also, no mention will be made of the Redskins/Lions game.  :cry:

I am slightly devastated.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 27 Sep 2009, 13:44
C'mon it had to happen sometime
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 27 Sep 2009, 14:00
Yeah, but we're supposed to have a good team.  Hell, we're in the NFC East, and that means something for three teams.  I will put it all down to the Lions' first possession, too.  Our defense had every opportunity to step up and make those plays, and we never did.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2009, 14:07
I'm kinda annoyed by it too; as per my "Always bet against the Rams and Lions" strategy, I had the Skins defense on my fantasy team this weak. Honestly guys, you face a human interception machine like Stafford and you can't force a single turnover? Really? If I wasn't absolutely destroying my opponents so far I'd be angry.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 27 Sep 2009, 14:09
The worst part is, there were times when our offense managed to step up.  Our defense never seemed to manage this feat.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 27 Sep 2009, 14:15
I'm not sure I would call 14 points stepping up
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 27 Sep 2009, 14:17
I'm not saying for the entire second half, just for parts.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 27 Sep 2009, 15:51
Man. Holy shit.


I liked Vernon Davis better when he was still a bit of a head case.

It's about time he started pulling his weight. It looks like Singletary was finally able to smack some sense into him so he could show why we drafted him.

I could say something bitter here, but honestly this was more or less the result I expected. I didn't expect to be leading with half a minute left in the game, though. Hopefully nearly pulling off the upset will get us some respect, at least.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 27 Sep 2009, 16:10
Hey well now I feel better about losing to the Bengals last week
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2009, 16:12
It was a weird game, with both teams dodging some bullets. Things like the kick off return td and blocked field goals are hard to account for. Had the Vikings converted that 2nd quarter field goal the whole complexion of the game would have been different, since that was effectively a 10 point swing, but then again, that sort of thing does happen when you've got a rookie performing the crucial blocking assignment on the play, so it's hard to call it a complete fluke. I don't really feel like I learned anything about either team, to be honest, but that's easy for me to say since I already figured the 49ers were good enough to threaten the Vikings at home and I don't really believe in our special teams or coaching staff.

One thing that I thought was a bit annoying was how the announcers did their usual "Let's talk up the quarterback!" routine (in this case, Shaun Hill) when really it was Vernon Davis making a few circus catches that bailed out the offense. It's not every day you see a 250 pound man run straight down the field that fast, leap that high and then maintain possession despite defenders getting their helmets on the ball as he's coming down. The same thing happened to a lesser extent with Brett Favre and the game ending touchdown; the announcers just gushed about the throw but the catch was at least as impressive. I dunno, maybe I just notice these things because I'm a Minnesota fan, which essentially means I've been watching Cris Carter and Randy Moss bail out a new quarterback every year since I was 8 years old.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Sep 2009, 03:32
I didn't see the lion's game (it wasn't broadcasted here) but I honestly believed that the Redskins were a better team than this. Colour me surprised ...
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Post by: CardinalFang on 28 Sep 2009, 05:17
I think the Redskins have all the parts to make a better team than they are it's just the parts aren't meshing properly.
Or something.
I'm still depressed. I'll be in my room.

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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 28 Sep 2009, 07:52
Well, we have one part that's making all the parts fall apart, and his name is Jim Zorn.  I actually thought Campbell looked pretty good yesterday, though he still has no awareness of the pocket and no idea where he's supposed to stand.  Jim Zorn is just not getting much out of his team, and I also have no idea why our defense couldn't stop anything.  They couldn't even put pressure on Stafford.  What the fuck?
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 28 Sep 2009, 07:55
Especially considering how terrible everyone says Detroit's O-line is
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 28 Sep 2009, 11:03
Hey, Tampa Bay Bucs.

What the fuck guys?
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Post by: scarred on 28 Sep 2009, 14:04
Daaaaa Bears.

That is all.
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Post by: tommydski on 28 Sep 2009, 14:31
Today Man City beat West Ham, which was the final game in a weekend accumulator bet I had on.

£210 return from a £5 bet is alright I guess...
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2009, 09:32
Damn, Tommy. Nice haul!

My baseball team is currently limping its ass into the playoffs and playing like they don't want to actually play baseball. I'm honestly a little worried.
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Post by: Reed on 29 Sep 2009, 12:04
Yeah, having two of your better starting pitchers our for a few games certainly doesn't help. That hit Lester took on the leg looked ridiculously painful.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 29 Sep 2009, 12:27
At least your team is in the playoffs
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 29 Sep 2009, 23:53
[...] and I also have no idea why our defense couldn't stop anything.  They couldn't even put pressure on Stafford.  What the fuck?

Didn't Washington invest $100 mill into that face stomper to get a better defence? Not working or not working yet?
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 30 Sep 2009, 00:08
HEY ERIC.

FIGHT YOU! (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009100407/2009/REG4/[email protected])
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Post by: scarred on 30 Sep 2009, 01:46
That game is actually going to be on TV? zzzzz
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Post by: CardinalFang on 30 Sep 2009, 03:31
Hey! Of course that game is going to be on TV!
Mainly as an example of How Not To Play Football.
Alternatively it can be used to threaten recalcitrant players on other teams.
"Watch this! If you don't straighten up we will trade you to one of these teams!"
"Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!"

Ryan,
 I bet my team sucks marginally less than yours!
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Sep 2009, 06:54
Hey, now that I have football minded people on the line, so to speak, I have a question.

It seems to me, from my over-seas perspective, that there are more coloured men in the NFL than there are white ones. Is that true and if so ... how come?
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Post by: pen on 30 Sep 2009, 06:57
Because they're good? 
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Sep 2009, 07:08
Yeah, having two of your better starting pitchers our for a few games certainly doesn't help. That hit Lester took on the leg looked ridiculously painful.

Some reporter had asked him how big the bruise was. Lester supposedly told the guy "it's the size of a baseball".
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Sep 2009, 07:47
Because they're good? 

Okay ... are you saying that black men make better athletes?

'cause that'd be weird.
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Post by: pen on 30 Sep 2009, 07:49
No, I'm saying that the ones that are there are there because they're good.  The white men are there because they're good.  I don't think it has anything to do with race at all for them to be in the positions they hold. 
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Sep 2009, 07:58
No, I'm saying that the ones that are there are there because they're good.  The white men are there because they're good.  I don't think it has anything to do with race at all for them to be in the positions they hold. 

Okay, they're good. But it seems to me that there is a difference between the ration of black to white men within the NFL and within society as a whole. And that is odd. I would think that the percentages would be equal.
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Post by: a pack of wolves on 30 Sep 2009, 08:05
It wouldn't say those things required private school, but funding for schools in poor areas is crap in the US so you're unlikely to get a decent education if you live in one. Training your body on the other hand can be done with minimal resources. Then you have getting into college, which is expensive but I understand US universities offer a lot of sports scholarships.

Are there any cultural differences? You're vastly more likely to see Asian athletes playing professional cricket than football in the UK, partly because of a cultural heritage of playing cricket since it was exported there in the colonial period and partly I think because football fans have an unfortunate reputation for harbouring some seriously unpleasant racist factions within their ranks.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 30 Sep 2009, 09:36
I also think it has to do with role models.  Black people tend to be more aggressive playing sports than other pursuits because they have more people to imitate.  This is also why I think there are so few female racing drivers.  I honestly can't think of a single reason that women shouldn't do as well as men in that sport, but there are no females in F1 (though, I hear one of the new teams next year is bringing in a woman), there are only a few in Indy Car, I don't really follow WRC and I actively avoid learning anything about NASCAR.

Didn't Washington invest $100 mill into that face stomper to get a better defence? Not working or not working yet?

He's doing great, but nobody else seemed to be able to do anything.  He also left the game for a bit due to an injury.

HEY ERIC.

FIGHT YOU! (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009100407/2009/REG4/[email protected])

You guys are going down!

I really hope you guys are going down.

The Redskins will not win another game this season  :cry:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 30 Sep 2009, 09:39
I think Jens is absolutely correct, it's mostly an issue of the socio-economic divide between races in this country.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 30 Sep 2009, 12:01
Yeah, sports are believed by many to be an area where blacks have an advantage, if anything, (white men can't jump, anyone?) and obviously it's easier to get involved in sports than it is to go to the best schools, so socioeconomic circumstances are probably the biggest factor. Opportunity breeds players; just look at the baseball factory that is the Dominican Republic. If you're a coordinated young man from the Dominican Republic, someone's going to want to put a bat in your hand and so you end up with a surprising number of the world's pro ball players. There's also the fact that if you're the slightest bit black or even look kind of black, people tend to think of you as black, which is sort of funny considering how many athletes are actually of mixed heritages. I bet your average person off the street will always at least know "black" when asked about Tiger Wood's background, but the guy is also Thai and Chinese in equal measure, with a dollop of Dutch and Native American thrown in for variety. So you have to consider that the way we tend to categorize people skews things from the outset.

Which leads me to another point: there is probably a bit of a genetics involved, but that's different from saying blacks are better at sports in general. After all, the highest tier athletes are almost statistical outliers by definition. Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan in part because he had some physical gifts that are atypical of any group. But that said, Africans and people of recent African descent come from a population that features a much higher degree of genetic diversity than the populations the rest of us come from. After all, other ethnic groups are essentially just relatively small sub-samples of some original African population. So, if there is some magical confluence of traits out there that can result in say, a Shaquille O'Neal, then it's likely to be present in the African American population even if they are in the minority. That still leaves most blacks muddling around in mediocrity land with the rest of us, however, so skin color is still a horrible way of predicting success in well, anything.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 30 Sep 2009, 23:56
According to a 1997 study (which is the latest I've been bothered to find) 65% of players in the NFL are black. But to be honest, I don't see why what a players race has to do with anything. Whoopdy doo. It's about skill, not about ancestory.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Sep 2009, 23:58
I noticed. I was interested.

I have to say that all of you bring up good points and I thank you for your answers. 
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Oct 2009, 06:51
Jesus guys can we go five minutes without having a sociology debate in this forum
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 01 Oct 2009, 06:53
... sorry.

How 'bout that local sportsteam?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Oct 2009, 08:14
Local hockey team kicks off its' season tonight against the Washington Capitals. I am effing PUMPED.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Oct 2009, 08:29
Only 'til Ovy takes you down a peg.  :wink:

So folks, it's hockey season again and the Flyers are going for a run at the cup this year (hopefully). Should be a fairly simple start at Carolina tonight then on to greater things.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 01 Oct 2009, 10:18
CAPITALS!  *crosses fingers*

Sorry, I'm not used to having a team in my home city that's decent.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Oct 2009, 10:21
Any time you want to send Michael Nylander back to Boston, I'll gladly accept him.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Oct 2009, 13:41
Man, does someone in the NFL have a grudge against Denver? Their next 5 games are against the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Chargers, the Ravens and then the Steelers. I guess the 1972 Dolphins weren't available.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 01 Oct 2009, 14:38
The Cowboys could end up being a pretty nice victory for you guys (depending on how Romo's feeling that day) and the Seelers are not doing well at all this season.  Philip Rivers is my dad's boy, though.  Went to NC State, see.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Oct 2009, 15:13
Eh, well, I'm a Vikings fan, not a Broncos fan; I just try and take notice of things like that when looking at the big picture. It's not every day that a team has a stretch like that. If they can keep the games competitive it's entirely possible that they could end up 4-4 and still be one of the better teams in the league.

As for the Steelers, that could still end up a very tough game, since they suffered a rash of injuries early and the game is 6 weeks away. I actually think the Bengals are pretty good this year, so losing by a combined 6 points in road games to them and Chicago doesn't hit me as really too big of a disaster, particularly since they had some key players banged up. After all, Pittsburgh could feasibly have Polamalu back and their running back situation sorted out better by week 6. They're a talented team with decent depth and they're well-coached. I could see them going on a bit of a run midway through the season as other teams get nicked up. A lot of the teams that have good records right now are paper thin in some areas. For example, the Bengals are going to be in sorry shape if their defensive backs get any more beat up.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Oct 2009, 01:13
And I personally don't think that the pats look great this year, so maybe there's something there too.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 02 Oct 2009, 01:16
The Chargers are falling apart at the seams. Maybe they'll get their act together by the time Denver gets to 'em, but somehow I doubt it. Norv Turner needs to be gone for that team to get anywhere.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Oct 2009, 06:41
Bruins, what the hellllllllllll
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 02 Oct 2009, 08:06
Norv Turner needs to be gone for that team to get anywhere.

I know what you mean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norv_Turner#Washington_Redskins).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 02 Oct 2009, 12:04
We'll take him back as offensive coordinator, if you don't mind...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 02 Oct 2009, 12:16
The only thing I really like about the Chargers is Rivers. He is probably even better than people give him credit for. That offense he's in calls for three types of plays: Hand it to the running back, dump it off to the running back or make a ridiculously high difficulty long pass. Over ten percent of his pass attempts went for over 20 yards last year, which is ridiculous. I'm still not all that terribly sure he's really worse than Drew Brees; the situations are too different for me to feel comfortable trying to make a comparison.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 02 Oct 2009, 12:26
And I personally don't think that the pats look great this year, so maybe there's something there too.

They don't look dominant, but they've actually looked better with each game. A lot of people seem to be forgetting that Brady's only played three full games in the last year and a half (Of the three teams they've faced, they looked best against the Falcons, who I think are most likely to make the playoffs). He's been the weak link and it's highly unlikely that will linger. The defensive line's been a bit shaky, though they've looked better and better each game, but their offensive line, particularly their running game, is about the best it's been in years. Once the defense gets some more experience under their belts (The talent's there, but most of them are young) and Brady starts utilizing that extra pocket time he's getting and making those big plays he's known for, they'll probably get on a roll.

The most dangerous thing teams could do right now is underestimate the Pats.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 02 Oct 2009, 18:03
The only thing I really like about the Chargers is Rivers. He is probably even better than people give him credit for. That offense he's in calls for three types of plays: Hand it to the running back, dump it off to the running back or make a ridiculously high difficulty long pass. Over ten percent of his pass attempts went for over 20 yards last year, which is ridiculous. I'm still not all that terribly sure he's really worse than Drew Brees; the situations are too different for me to feel comfortable trying to make a comparison.

Yeah, the thing is, as great as Drew Brees unquestionably is, San Diego had invested enough money and time in Rivers that they kind of had to give him a shot. There was no way they could afford to keep both of them. And frankly, I think they made the right decision letting Brees go in free agency.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 03 Oct 2009, 18:29
Man, I can't decide who to start on my fantasy team this week (normally, I just roll out Steve Smith, but he's on a bye), Devin Hester vs. the Lions or slightly banged up Kevin Walter vs. the Raiders. Two talented guys vs. two putrid teams. I know it's the definition of a good problem to have, but it's not making the decision any easier.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 03 Oct 2009, 21:04
Local footy finishes tonight, with the Mighty and Dashingly Handsome Double Blues opposing the boring tyranny of the pathetic and boring Bulldogs. Go the Double Blues!

(and Booo! to Port Adelaide, just for good measure)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 04 Oct 2009, 13:26
So, why can't the Redskins have the team we had in the second half of the past two games all the time?  What the fuck guys?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 04 Oct 2009, 13:54
So, why can't the Buccaneers have the team we had in the first half of our last game all the time? What the fuck guys?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: CardinalFang on 04 Oct 2009, 14:00
Woo the Redskins won TWO games!
TWO!
God help us when we play Dallas.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 04 Oct 2009, 14:06
So, why can't the Buccaneers have the team we had in the first half of our last game all the time? What the fuck guys?

Your coaching staff is too incompetent and reactionary to make adjustments from week to week. Thus the Buccaneers need an entire half to get their heads out of their asses and figure out the plan that they should have been using to begin with. Among current coaches with talented teams, Brad Childress is probably the gold standard in this area.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 04 Oct 2009, 14:58
Um...  The Bucs want the team they had in the first half (which wasn't that great this game, to be honest).  The Redskins want the team we had in the second half (which also wasn't that great, but wasn't completely fucking useless).

Woo the Redskins won TWO games!
TWO!
God help us when we play Dallas.

Dallas?  I can't even think that far ahead.  God help us when we play Carolina.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 04 Oct 2009, 16:17
I picked up the 49ers defense this week on my fantasy team; frankly, I had no idea why they were still available, but I wasn't going to question it. After all, the 49ers stuff the run and running is the only area that the Rams are even remotely competent. But as optimistic as I was about their prospects against the Rams, I still wasn't prepared for that level of epic beat down. Someone needs to figure out a way to get Steven Jackson off that team; he deserves better.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 04 Oct 2009, 18:05
They're probably the worst team in football.

Also, for anyone who cares, let's discuss Jensen Button.  Do you think he can step it up to win?  I really want either he or Barrichello to win.  Maybe it can come down to between a Briton or a Brazilian in the last race again.  Except that it won't be in Brazil.

Also, how about Casey Stoner?  Back on the podium after resting to recover from his still mysterious illness.  I'm a fan of Ducati, so I'm pretty happy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 04 Oct 2009, 21:22
I think we should discuss the San Diego Pittsburg game. That must have been one of the most ridiculous 4th quarters so far this season.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 05 Oct 2009, 00:07
The lack of any sort of defensive production on either team's behalf was just upsetting to witness.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Oct 2009, 11:30
I picked up the 49ers defense this week on my fantasy team; frankly, I had no idea why they were still available, but I wasn't going to question it. After all, the 49ers stuff the run and running is the only area that the Rams are even remotely competent. But as optimistic as I was about their prospects against the Rams, I still wasn't prepared for that level of epic beat down. Someone needs to figure out a way to get Steven Jackson off that team; he deserves better.

A shutout, an INT return, and a fumble return? In my old league, that would have been good for at least 40 points.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 05 Oct 2009, 13:11
Yeah, my friends and I are using the ESPN site and their standard scoring method so unfortunately it was "only" 31. Either way, it's saved my ass this week because I've had a few other players slump.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 05 Oct 2009, 22:24
The fact that the Vikings allowed the Packers to get up to 23, even though their lead seemed insurmountable, is depressing. That shit will not fly in the playoffs, guys.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 06 Oct 2009, 01:27
I didn't get to see that game due to sleep ... were the Packers and the Vikings nice to eachother or was it a bit ... rough for Favre?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2009, 01:46
Aaron Rodgers got sacked 7 times. Favre was untouched the entire game - at one point he had 7.34 full seconds in the pocket before he threw. No pressure at all.

The Pack stuffed Adrian Peterson though, he averaged less than 3 yards per carry. They just couldn't get the reins on their ex, mainly because he was never, ever under pressure, whereas Rodgers was constantly scrambling out of the pocket.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 06 Oct 2009, 02:42
Thanks ...

I feel like I missed a classic. Accursèd time-zones.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2009, 02:44
The first half was pretty entertaining but the second half was a series of 3-and-outs until the final four minutes, where the Vikes defense gave up 10 points (almost 17).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2009, 02:46
I guess what I am trying to say is don't feel too bad about it, also Favre still has to go to Lambeau later this season, when he's not still fresh from the offseason, so he still has a chance to fark it all up. Minus their pass rush the Packers looked like a much more solid team.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 06 Oct 2009, 02:51
That actually makes me feel better, thanks!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2009, 06:48
Minus their pass rush the Packers looked like a much more solid team.

bwaahahahahahasha
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2009, 06:55
Okay, look, you can't just say "Minus the pass rush". This is like saying "Except for the Eastern Front, Germany could have won WW2," or "The Hindenburg had a pretty good safety record except for the time it burst into flames." It's technically true, but ultimately you're just whistling pass the graveyard. The Packers have turnstiles for an offensive line right now and the defensive line is the Viking's one indisputable strength. Oh, the Packers have talent, don't get me wrong; it's just not on the offensive line. I love Aaron Rodgers as a football player, but he had to pull miracles out of his ass all night just to keep them in the game. I have him and Greg Jennings on my fantasy team for a reason; I figured if the offensive line held up they would tear the league up. That's because they looked solid last year too... right up until they gave up a sack or forced Grant to break tackles in his own backfield. That's why they went 6-10 instead of the other way around.

The Packers are already done if Clifton can't bounce back after the bye week. Lord knows they'll still probably manage to split the series, because that's just how the division works, but you're out of your mind if you think they looked like a more solid team sans an offensive line. That they managed to crawl back into it a bit after the Vikings prematurely went into garbage time mode says more about the Minnesota's lack of discipline than anything (I still hold that the Vikings are overrated; they can't defend tight ends/WRs that split their safeties, Favre's stamina is a question and Childress is still Childress). But that said, the Packers are the team with bigger problems. Teams with bad offensive lines don't make playoff runs. It just doesn't happen.

Also, I thought it was kind of funny how Gruden did everything but fellate Favre on national television. It must have really annoying for the Favre haters.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 06 Oct 2009, 09:11
The Packers are already done if Clifton can't bounce back after the bye week.

Well I wouldn't exactly say that.  I give the Packers an excellent chance to beat both detroit and cleveland without Mr Clifton
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2009, 10:27
Well I wouldn't exactly say that.  I give the Packers an excellent chance to beat both detroit and cleveland without Mr Clifton

Where I come from that's called damning with faint praise.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 06 Oct 2009, 10:30
Hey man!  The Lions are decent!



No they're not.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2009, 10:40
Anyway, I'm not trying to be a blatant Vikings homer here; there's a really good chance that Clifton comes back no problem, and Rodgers is so good I'm sure he can compete even with C- offensive line. Unfortunately, a C- minus is probably their ceiling. That the Vikings give up big plays in the slot and seams is problematic, but as Achilles' Heels go I'll take that over a perilously thin line any day.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 06 Oct 2009, 18:40
Holy fuck, Alex, will your team just choose whether they want to win or lose already? This is getting ridiculous.

Edit: About fucking time!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2009, 18:50
It's a good week for Minny.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2009, 19:39
I'd still rather hedge my bets with a team that can win playoff games

ouch
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2009, 19:46
That doesn't really make sense.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 06 Oct 2009, 22:27
On the one hand, my Niners are 3-1. On the other, all three of those wins have come against division opponents and the NFC West is pretty awful. On the other other hand, the one game they did lose they lost at the last second to an unbeaten team on the road. I really don't know how to figure the Niners yet except that we'll probably get to the playoffs just because the rest of the division is so awful. Playing Atlanta next week at home will be an interesting game. I'll be curious to see how the oddsmakers peg that game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 06 Oct 2009, 23:00
Yeah, I know what you mean. A friend posted this (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/04/SPJB1A1288.DTL&type=sports) article on facebook the other day, and I thought it was pretty interesting.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 07 Oct 2009, 08:12
Yeah, the 49ers have about as favorable a schedule as you can ask for.

In regards to the offensive line play, one thing that probably isn't helping is the stodgy and rather traditional run 'n' pass rhythm the play caller gets into. Dedication to the run is admirable, but when even the Rams seem to know when to stay in the gaps and when to just run wild, I'd say there's a problem. Are you guys sure that your coordinator has heard of screen passes, draws, or delayed handoffs?

That said, it was a fuckin' blow out; of course they're going to run. But I think this sorta thing was sort of an issue in the Vikings game too, and you guys only lost that by a hair.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 07 Oct 2009, 08:15
Redskins hired an "offensive consultant."  Maybe someone telling Jim Zorn that he's being a fucking moron will snap him out of his "I don't have to worry about my job" delusions.  Now if they would just hire a quarterback consultant and an owner's consultant we might have a good team...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 08 Oct 2009, 19:32
I recently just found out Jared Allen has a Facebook fan page that appears to actually be him? The first post is "Jared Allen=God".
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 08 Oct 2009, 19:41
There needs to be more Thursday night football, I'm suffering from withdrawal already.
Title: Re: WE DON'T LIKE C.B. BUCKNOR
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Oct 2009, 06:36
I think the title says it all. *grumble*
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 09 Oct 2009, 09:34
Lost in the kerfuffle over how terrible Bucknor is at his job is how absolutely revolting of a job Joe West did.

I can deal with a wide strike zone, I can deal with a tight one, but no two ways about it: West was wildly inconsistent all night and while I generally don't like to blame an ump, West and Bucknor combined to cost the Sox even a shot at that game. Lackey was getting both the low pitch and the outside pitch, both of which Lester was squeezed on. The pitch tracker on TBS made it even more egregious. There was one at bat in particular where Ortiz went to a full count on five pitches, all out of the strike zone, none of which he offered at. While yes, his terrible work went against the Angels a handful of times (There were a few pitches the Sox took that I'd say were strikes and that interference call was absolutely bogus), the majority of his calls tended to involve squeezing Lester while giving Lackey a strike zone bigger than my big, fat Irish head.

Never, in all my years of watching baseball, have I seen a game with more egregiously bad calls, most of which were in one team's favor.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 09 Oct 2009, 15:05
Yeah, there was some NBA level bullshit going on there. I was honest to god confused by the interference call; I was on the treadmill with my headphones on and chugging some water at the time it happened, so between commercials and no commentary explaining the stupidity going on I felt rather out of the loop.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 11 Oct 2009, 12:25
if there's one thing this thread is lacking it is classic Sports stories. So, to start:

How to turn a brand-new NHL franchise into 3-time Stanley Cup champs in less than 10 years (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1126003/1/index.htm)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 11 Oct 2009, 14:01
Goddamnit Jim Zorn.  If you don't need to go for it on fourth down, DON'T GO FOR IT ON FOURTH DOWN!  It's calls like that which cost us the damned game.  And that ridiculousness with a punt, but that's just crazy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 11 Oct 2009, 14:16
I honestly think going for it on fourth down is a good decision more often than not, but I haven't seen that game and Jim Zorn is an idiot, so I'm torn about what I should think of that post.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 11 Oct 2009, 14:23
I think he goes for it on fourth more often than not, and it's not even fourth and one, or even two!  It's like fourth and four or five.  We're ahead in the fourth quarter.  We need to just pin them deep.  The kicker is, there are times when going for it on fourth is definitely the right decision, and it's during these times that he doesn't actually go for it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 11 Oct 2009, 14:37
Jim Zorn isn't gonna see another W on his record this season.

That said, did anyone see the Dallas-KC game? It went into overtime. The Cowboys are effed in the butt.

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 11 Oct 2009, 14:39
The only thing that made me sad about that game is that they ended up winning.  I wouldn't actually be surprised if Zorn isn't around next week.  At least as head coach.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 11 Oct 2009, 14:40
WAS could use some offensive coordination

hint hint
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 11 Oct 2009, 15:35
God dammit 49ers, my opponent has Roddy White on his fantasy team this week. I could have stolen the win despite having 4 starters on byes, but now I'm behind by 5 points because of this shit.


You're dead to me.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 11 Oct 2009, 16:41
Taunting? Taunting?! Kiss my dick you fucking twat. What the fuck.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 Oct 2009, 12:05
Looks like the Packers went ahead and resigned Tauscher. Things could get interesting if he can still play, since their schedule isn't too scary. That's still a perilously thin line though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 12 Oct 2009, 14:27
Taunting? Taunting?! Kiss my dick you fucking twat. What the fuck.

This.

The taunting, such as it was, happened after the flag was thrown. You have to respect a rev who can see into the future and/or into a player's mind.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 12 Oct 2009, 14:50
It was disgusting. The theory my dad and I are running on is that the ref wanted to call pass interference, realized he there was none and then decided to call taunting rather than make himself look stupid. That play could very well have been the difference in the game. What should've been third and two (I think) ended up as first and goal. Not to mention the blown call on what should've been a fumble at the very beginning of the drive.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 15 Oct 2009, 14:01
Tough string of games coming up, and I have faith in Childress blowing at least one of them.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 15 Oct 2009, 14:11
He's saving that for the playoffs.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 15 Oct 2009, 20:06
Nah, I have us penciled in for a blown special teams play followed by the team just completely rolling over, like in the 2000 NFC Championship game, thus never giving Childress a real chance to do something stupid in the first place. Losing the big game due to coaching mishaps isn't really that common in Vikings history, after all. Besides, what you're saying implies that he could go that long without driving me insane.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 16 Oct 2009, 12:29
Sad realization: the Jaguars lost 41-0 last week but if someone put a gun to my head they'd still be my pick in the upcoming Jags-Rams game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 16 Oct 2009, 15:02
But the Rams are a tool of the Socialist Left, paragon examples of Barack Obama's America on full display! (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/10/15/limbaugh.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 17 Oct 2009, 08:33
Heading into week 3 of my "the Broncos have a nasty stretch in their schedule" theory. They won the last two games by a combined 10 points and needed an OT to do it, and I'd hold that the next 3 games might be trickier. The Chargers, Steelers and Ravens all have talent on their rosters, they all need wins (especially the Chargers), and they're all going to be fresh from coming off their bye weeks when Denver comes calling. Granted, the Steelers are out of sorts and Norv is capable of scuttling his team at any time, but both of them have defenses that play rather hard and Kyle Orton's 97 passer rating is due for a fall.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Oct 2009, 08:40
I actually liked those throwbacks the Broncos wore last week. Even with Jabar Gaffney fucking up the socks.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 17 Oct 2009, 09:02
They won the last two games by a combined 10 points and needed an OT and a bullshit taunting call to do it
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Oct 2009, 10:51
What he said!

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2009, 07:13
Hey Rob, I know you're feeling down about Liverpool losing yesterday, so I bought you a gift.

(http://images.meredith.com/ab/images/2006/04/ss_w39BeachBall.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 18 Oct 2009, 08:01
The referee made the correct decision. The beach ball is considered to be irrelevant, same as if the ball strikes an official, a steward, a fan, a Policeman etc. It came from the Liverpool fans and it was the responsibility of the Liverpool defenders to clear their area. I feel sorry for Liverpool but I have a lot of time for Steve Bruce. If Sir Alex Ferguson had any real regard for the future of his club he'd stand down and let the board throw money at Bruce until he accepted the role next season. He's patently got the right stuff, even with limited funds. With the spending power of Manchester United (where he served and was loved as a player) you could pretty much ensure that any post-Ferguson jitters would be dispelled with impunity. If Mark Hughes is going to keep his job and spend more money over the next year, it seems inevitable that the blue side of Manchester will be the immediate threat. Bruce worked with Hughes in the past too and he's the better manager of the two.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2009, 08:04
Every year for the past few years, Ciddy were considered a huge threat to United, and they've done fuck all.

It's a lot like how everyone heaps praise on the Toronto Blue Jays during spring training, forgetting that they play in a division with the Red Sox and Yankees.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Oct 2009, 08:51
I agree, the goal should stand, it is not the first time something like this has happened and it would be highly hypocritical of anybody to say that this one shouldn't stand when others did. The whole truth of the matter is that we simply weren't good enough; a team missing Torres and Gerrard this season is going to be much more devastated than ever before with the loss of Alonso to run the game in their absence.

One thing i will never understand though is the need to take crappy little objects like that to games. Whether they are on the pitch or being smacked around in the crowd they are a nuisance to everyone; almost as bad as those huge flags that cover everyone so that you can no longer see the game. Sadly, there are people who derive pleasure from this kind of thing as if being at a game watching your favourite team is not entertaining enough and so incidents like this happen.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 18 Oct 2009, 11:14
JENSON BUTTON - FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPION 2009

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Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Oct 2009, 12:33
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/livbarrob/jensonbutton2.gif)

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/livbarrob/f1jb2.gif)

Everything is better in sparkly text.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: supersheep on 18 Oct 2009, 12:55
Actually, I would have thought the goal shouldn't stand. According to page 60 of this (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf), when an extra ball interferes with play inside the goal area, there should be a drop ball on the edge of the goal area. While it doesn't specify what happens if other things interfere with play, the rules on players and balls interfering with play seem to imply that the game should be stopped and restarted with a drop ball.

Of course, I'm not a ref, so there might be some interpretation that means that the goal should have stood.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Oct 2009, 13:17
Yeah, i heard they were talking about that but a beach ball is hardly part of the game as a football would be and it was thrown on by a Liverpool fan so i can't blame them for allowing the goal to stand.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Oct 2009, 13:20
It's better to be lucky than to be good.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 18 Oct 2009, 15:42
So, who was pissed when the Patriots game got yanked off the air for being too awesome?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 18 Oct 2009, 15:50
I think you have it backwards. They yanked the Titans game for being too depressing.

Seriously, though, we've still got the game up here in Boston. This is just the single most pathetic display of football I have EVER seen. Brady had more touchdown passes in a single quarter than Kerry Collins had completions in the entire game.

As I say this, Vince Young gets picked. Wow. I mean, yeah, Brady looked absolutely phenomenal on his own, but the Titans are just fucking awful.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Oct 2009, 16:10
JENSON BUTTON - FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPION 2009

I am so sad that I missed what was apparently an awesome race.

So, Jason Campbell got benched, and Todd Collins doesn't really know what he's doing in the west coast system (people seem to forget that when he came in and rocked it, it was under a system similar to what he did in Michigan).  Why don't we have three quarterbacks again?  Oh, right, because we needed four fucking running backs.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 18 Oct 2009, 17:00
GO BEARS

and, Vikings: way to go! You barely beat one of the most underachieving teams in the league!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Oct 2009, 17:09
I think you have it backwards. They yanked the Titans game for being too depressing.

Seriously, though, we've still got the game up here in Boston. This is just the single most pathetic display of football I have EVER seen. Brady had more touchdown passes in a single quarter than Kerry Collins had completions in the entire game.

As I say this, Vince Young gets picked. Wow. I mean, yeah, Brady looked absolutely phenomenal on his own, but the Titans are just fucking awful.

Yeah, it's hard to get too excited about picking on the Titans right now. I didn't expect them to repeat that record again this year or anything, since they lost Haynesworth and their defensive line is getting older and all that jazz, but who in the hell could of seen this season coming? They made the playoffs last season and a bunch of their star defensive players are in the final year of their contracts! You'd think they'd be at least be playing hard and aiming for the next payday. Instead they're rolling over every game, even against the Patriots, a team that's quite happy to score on you every possession if you let them. I've never seen anything like this before; I'm honestly curious how many players on the team really give a crap.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Oct 2009, 17:16
You barely beat one of the most underachieving teams in the league!

Might want to check your glass house for damage; last I checked you needed two missed field goals to get away from a Polamalu-less Steelers team.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: WestEnder67 on 18 Oct 2009, 17:21
So, who was pissed when the Patriots game got yanked off the air for being too awesome?
At least you guys got to see it in the first place - we in the UK got Arizona-Seattle.

On the plus side, I'll definitely be able to see the NE-Tampa game next week.  :-D
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 18 Oct 2009, 17:26
You going?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 18 Oct 2009, 18:57
Instead they're rolling over every game, even against the Patriots, a team that's quite happy to score on you every possession if you let them. I've never seen anything like this before; I'm honestly curious how many players on the team really give a crap.

I don't know who to give more credit to. While yes, the Titans were terrible, Brady actually looked really fantastic on his own. His passes were spot on, he was moving around well without really excessive time and he just looked absolutely locked in. On the other hand, one cannot express enough how absolutely fucking TERRIBLE the Titans looked. I mean, yeah, Brady got the ball in the air quickly, but I'm reasonably sure he probably could've stood there for about three minutes and then connect with Vince Wilfork for a TD, the Titans looked so bad. The Pats defense has, in my opinion, been steadily improving (Barring last week's second half, they looked pretty awful), but they didn't even have to work, the Titans offense was just utterly incompetent.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Oct 2009, 19:02
At least you guys got to see it in the first place - we in the UK got Arizona-Seattle.

On the plus side, I'll definitely be able to see the NE-Tampa game next week.  :-D

I have to go to a bar to see pretty much every game, because nobody here gives a shit about the Redskins (seriously, I am one of only three people in the bar who watch the Redskins games, and this is the bar where I've found the largest group of Redskins fans).  Though, we do play two Monday nights and one Sunday night (though, I expect that one to get flexed).

BIG NEWS GUYS!  Jim Zorn will not be the play caller any more!  They're going to announce who is going to call the plays tomorrow.  I'm really hoping that this will do something to make our team suck less.  Maybe Campbell will step up after being benched and we'll actually have a quarterback.  I'm hoping Chris Samuels is back next week, because our offensive line neeeeeeeeds him so badly.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Oct 2009, 19:36
I don't know who to give more credit to. While yes, the Titans were terrible, Brady actually looked really fantastic on his own. His passes were spot on, he was moving around well without really excessive time and he just looked absolutely locked in. On the other hand, one cannot express enough how absolutely fucking TERRIBLE the Titans looked. I mean, yeah, Brady got the ball in the air quickly, but I'm reasonably sure he probably could've stood there for about three minutes and then connect with Vince Wilfork for a TD, the Titans looked so bad. The Pats defense has, in my opinion, been steadily improving (Barring last week's second half, they looked pretty awful), but they didn't even have to work, the Titans offense was just utterly incompetent.

Yeah, I didn't mean my comment to be denigrating of the Patriots in any way and I'm on the record as thinking of them as a dangerous team even if they're not as loaded defensively as they once were. It's just that I think a team would want to show up for a game like this and I'm not really sure the Titans did. After all, the Patriots have a bit of a rep for running up the score against inferior teams, (I actually admire this a bit; it beats the shit out of the Viking's "Hey, we're up by 10; Where's my iphone? I need to Twitter," routine) and most NFL players want to avoid that kind of treatment just as a matter of pride if nothing else. The Titans do have some talent on the roster, after all, and even the Lions at least try hard and often make a couple plays even if they lack the talent to play a full game without making some crippling mistakes. But the Titans just got plain annihilated this week; I think they gave up the season after losing their first 3 games.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 18 Oct 2009, 20:12
My theory is that spending the week with people calling this a trap game resulted in the Titans getting a case of "oh yeah? we'll show you!"
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Oct 2009, 20:16
It's almost like they want Kerry Collins to start drinking again.

Actually, if he already has it sure would explain a lot.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 18 Oct 2009, 21:35
I still think for my money that the Saints are the best team in the NFL right now. Drew Brees is a fucking machine.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Oct 2009, 21:47
A note to everybody.  Purdue fans have a lot to be happy about.  Drew Brees destroying the Giants' defense and Purdue beating OSU (which is awesome, by the way).  One of my friends is a Purdue alumna.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 18 Oct 2009, 21:58
You and everyone else watching the NFL this season, Bryan.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 18 Oct 2009, 22:36
Might want to check your glass house for damage; last I checked you needed two missed field goals to get away from a Polamalu-less Steelers team.

Yeah, I wasn't happy about that, but hey - a win's a win, and if it helped get them back on tra--

OH WAIT. I JUST WATCHED THE BEARS-FALCONS GAME.

Not as sloppy as our season opener against GB, but jesus fucking christ

/wrists
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Oct 2009, 23:10
I think the Vikings will take the division but honestly I don't trust any of the NFC North teams to do much in the playoffs. The Vikings can't seem to be bothered to stay focused for a whole game, the Bears can't catch a break and the Packers have line issues casting a shadow over everything they do. Green Bay does have a Charmin soft schedule going for them, but even if they do make it to the playoffs, I kind of envision their run ending with a NY Giants defensive lineman ripping Aaron Rodgers' heart out Temple of Doom style.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 18 Oct 2009, 23:11
That mental image is the most insanely epic thing ever.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 19 Oct 2009, 01:08
Aaron Rodgers is a Cal graduate, I'd really like him to keep his heart. He's the first guy who proved that the "Jeff Tedford quarterbacks can't succeed in the NFL" claim was bullshit.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: WestEnder67 on 19 Oct 2009, 07:11
You going?
Unfortunately not. Was skint when tickets went on sale (on top of which they were a bloody rip-off).   :cry:

However, it's one of only two games during the season to be on terrestrial TV - the other being the Super Bowl - so I'll be able to watch it even if my Sky subscription runs out.  :-D

Will probably head down to the uni bar if they have it on for cheap beer and (hopefully) good football.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 19 Oct 2009, 09:59
Aaron Rodgers is a Cal graduate, I'd really like him to keep his heart. He's the first guy who proved that the "Jeff Tedford quarterbacks can't succeed in the NFL" claim was bullshit.

I'd prefer he stay healthy too; I have him on my fantasy team. But that's in the offensive line's hands and so far they seem bound and determined to let other teams treat the dude like a human pinata. Even in that drubbing of the Lions they gave up 5 sacks, and Clifton reinjured his ankle, so we're really heading into pyrrhic victory territory.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 19 Oct 2009, 12:08
5 hours until Denver starts to go 6 - 0.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 19 Oct 2009, 15:56
Sherm Lewis?  Really guys?  Was Dion Sanders not available this season?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 20 Oct 2009, 13:11
Did anybody see Dante Wesley give what might end up being the dirtiest hit this season against the Bucs? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cAyhCTaz2Y)

As of today, he's only got a 1 game suspension.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Oct 2009, 17:59
I didn't see it live, but I've seen it about five times since.  All I want to know is "what the fuck?"  I'm too lazy to look for it, so does anybody know what he's saying about that?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 20 Oct 2009, 19:23
I just don't understand why he hit him so high.
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Post by: Reed on 20 Oct 2009, 19:25
Yeah, it almost looked like he was aiming for helmet-helmet contact. If he was, he should have been suspended for a lot more than 1 game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 20 Oct 2009, 20:18
I just don't understand why he hit him so high.

The general gist I got was because the Jags and Bucs don't much like each other. I dunno, I'm still getting the hang of watching football.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 20 Oct 2009, 20:31
Yeah, it's just jarring when competitiveness crosses the line into just plain taking a shot at someone. It's kinda like the difference between brushing one past the batter to get him to quit crowding the plate and trying to wing one right into the guy's ear. I more or less understand how it gets to that point, but it's not something I really want to see either.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 20 Oct 2009, 20:47
Oh, I definitely agree. I hate bean wars (Unless someone's just lobbing a curve at someone's ass, that's fine), but it seemed you were legitimately inquiring, so I gave the straight answer.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 20 Oct 2009, 21:00
So....how about those Yankees?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Oct 2009, 21:07
Not a huge fan (I'm not one of those people who hates the Yankees because it's cool.  I hate them because I'm an Orioles fan), but they do seem to be better than the Angels.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 20 Oct 2009, 21:15
Your response was actually a little more mild than I was expecting.

Mainly I wanted to point out to Shane that the Red Sox are out and the Yankees are up 3-1 in the ALCS.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Oct 2009, 21:26
Well, my baseball teams are the Orioles and (more recently) the Nationals.  It's hard to generate anything approximating enthusiasm for baseball after so many frustrating years.  I can't really remember the last time we were in the playoffs.

Wait, I can remember that bullshit fan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier) catch vs. the Yankees one year.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 20 Oct 2009, 22:26
Let me get this straight.

Your favorite teams are the Redskins for football, and the Orioles and Nationals for baseball?

So.......do you just choose whichever teams suck the hardest?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: CardinalFang on 21 Oct 2009, 03:29
Hey, hey, hey it's not been proven that the Redskins suck the hardest!!!
Yet.
I mean they've managed to win two games. TWO! Two horrible horrible games.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Oct 2009, 06:55
Your response was actually a little more mild than I was expecting.

Mainly I wanted to point out to Shane that the Red Sox are out and the Yankees are up 3-1 in the ALCS.

Oh dude, it's hockey season, and we're in the middle of the EPL and the Champions League group stage. I've got plenty to keep my mind off the suckfest that was the Red Sox in the ALDS.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 21 Oct 2009, 07:06
I forgot to mention that Leeds are still unbeaten and remain two points clear at the top of the league with a game in hand over near enough everyone else. Two very hard games are coming up next week, both away from home. If we can steal four points from the next two fixtures, I'll be very happy indeed. On Monday night we played Norwich at home. It was easily the hardest game we have played all season (including Liverpool) and when Leeds scored the winner in the 92nd minute I screamed for so long and so hard that I coughed blood and ruined my favourite carpet.

The Norwich game was also the debut of two new loan signings at Elland Road - Sam Vokes and Max Gradel. The headline (http://www.juegomania.org/Sam+&+Max+Hit+the+Road/foto/pc/5/5190/5190_c.jpg/Foto+Sam+&+Max+Hit+the+Road.jpg) writes itself.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 21 Oct 2009, 07:15
If your team keeps winning in League One and my team keeps being in 10th place in the Championship, maybe next year they'll get to play each other!

Tommy, have you seen (or read) the Damned United ? If so, what did you think?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 21 Oct 2009, 08:45
Let me get this straight.

Your favorite teams are the Redskins for football, and the Orioles and Nationals for baseball?

So.......do you just choose whichever teams suck the hardest?

I also support the Wizards.  I think it's the other way around, since I just choose teams based on geography.  Which means I also support the Capitals, who don't suck the worst in hockey.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 21 Oct 2009, 09:09
Your response was actually a little more mild than I was expecting.

Mainly I wanted to point out to Shane that the Red Sox are out and the Yankees are up 3-1 in the ALCS.

Dropping half a billion dollars in one offseason will get you pretty far, apparently. Not normally one to say it, but the Yanks straight up bought a set of rings this year. Without the combined $350 million they dropped on Sabathia and Teixeira, the Yanks don't even make the playoffs this season, the Burnett acquisition just made it ridiculous.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Oct 2009, 09:46
Anderson, PAY FUCKING ATTENTION, THEY'RE TRYING TO PASS THE BALL TO YOU. Jesus.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Oct 2009, 13:27
I don't really think the Vikings have a chance in hell against the Steelers if Winfield can't play.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 21 Oct 2009, 14:12
Nothing will surprise me and I'm rooting for the vikings.

I mean ... they're Vikings!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 21 Oct 2009, 15:25
I might cheer on the Vikings if they didn't employ Brett Favre. I've gotten so sick of him that I just cannot root for a team he's on at this point.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 21 Oct 2009, 15:36
Yeah, it's a real shame about the media circus that comes attached to Favre, because the Vikings are actually a really fun team to watch right now if you just mute the announcers (Gruden did everything but propose on that Monday night game). They make a lot of big plays on both sides of the ball but they're not so much better than other competent teams that the game turns into a snoozer. By any estimation they're lucky as hell not to be 4-2 right now.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 21 Oct 2009, 17:34
Tommy, have you seen (or read) the Damned United ? If so, what did you think?

The book is terrific. It really captured the era and I think the man, though some disagree.

The film was woeful. I implore people to skip it and read the book if they have a passing interest in football.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: LeeC on 21 Oct 2009, 17:58
I like playing racquet ball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJVWRkiRXHM&feature=related) havnt playing in 6 years but im looking to pick it back up.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 21 Oct 2009, 18:28
The film was woeful. I implore people to skip it and read the book if they have a passing interest in football.

I enjoyed the film, but I do find it amusing that it's going to potentially create quite a large new audience for the book, seeing as how emotionally the two are pretty much polar opposites. The thought of legions of cinema-goers marching into their local bookshops and picking up a copy of the Damned Utd. and taking it home and reading it at bed-time only to discover it's not so much a feel-good depiction of a bygone era as it is a highly modernist depiction of a man consumed by his own obsession and loathing tickles me no end.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 25 Oct 2009, 10:35
I don't really think the Vikings have a chance in hell against the Steelers if Winfield can't play.

Hey, remember when I said that?


They say he won't be back until late November at the earliest. Unless the backup plays a fuckin' hell of a lot better than he did against Atlanta, the Vikings are pretty boned against competent teams, since corner is basically the one area with no depth that I'm aware of. I would have been happier with literally any other player getting injured just because we have a lot of depth on the team everywhere but in the defensive backfield. Favre getting hurt? Would suck, and Packers fans would say "I TOLD YOU!" (Which, is patently ridiculous, since Brett Favre's corpse is a better football player than Tarvaris Jackson looked like last year), but I think we could limp through some games that way with Rosenfels or maybe even a slightly improved Jackson. Adrian Peterson? Love the guy, but he's overrated and Chester Taylor is pretty good and actually more versatile. We'd be fine. Jared Allen, Ray Edwards or one of the Williamses? We have tons of depth there, so I wouldn't be worried. Even our backup tackles are good. Best line rotation in the league, if not the best individual linemen. Losing another offensive linemen would hurt, but it'd be no worse than Green Bay's situation. Linebackers? Already went a year without E.J. and we lived. But Winfield? Once he left the field Atlanta quickly responded by passing for roughly 8,000 yards in the second half. His ankle is the turd in my 6 and 0 team's punch bowl.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Oct 2009, 10:43
You know who's team is definitely not going to lose today?  Mine.  The Redskins will, in fact, avoid tacking on losses at least two Sundays in a row.



We're totally fucking boned tomorrow, though.  We play our second competent team of the season, and the first team we'll encounter that has wins on their record before we play them.  Good luck everyone else today.  If you guys could just try to send a little bit of luck in the direction of DC tomorrow, that would be great.  Who doesn't want Philly to lose?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2009, 10:56
Pats are starting to run away with it again..
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Oct 2009, 10:59
Did anyone expect them to have even a slightly hard time of it against Tampa Bay?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 25 Oct 2009, 13:17
Vikings did pretty alright. Still don't like how jittery the secondary looks against the long ball though. Wouldn't be surprised to lose at Green Bay.

In regards to New England-Tampa: Ahahahahaha, the Bucs.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 25 Oct 2009, 13:41
Also, man, ESPN has some shitty writers. I know they like to just grab a box score and pull a story out of their ass sometimes, but they wrote that a defender stepped in front of a pass intended for Chester Taylor and made a pick, which really isn't what happened at all. Favre threw it ever so slightly high and Taylor plain botched the catch. It skimmed off his hands and a defender caught the deflection as it went further down the field. It's really hard to put that one on the QB, in all honesty, and Taylor is a good receiver so it's not like that kind of thing happens all the time. It was just the kind of goofy play that happens to even good players once or twice over the course of the season. It was a heartbreaker and sealed the game for the Steelers, but it wasn't exactly a boneheaded epic fail type play.
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Post by: Yayniall on 25 Oct 2009, 14:43
City managed to snatch a draw from their 2 nil lead, hopefully the Bengals can do better.
=)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Oct 2009, 15:47
Damn.  Who dey?

Also, how about the Saints with Drew Brees to thank for four turnovers so far?  They're doing a great job of trying to come back, and it's easily within their reach, as long as Brees doesn't continue fucking it up every chance he gets.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 25 Oct 2009, 16:06
I just hate how with standard ESPN fantasy scoring being what it is, Brees will probably end up being worth a bunch of points anyway despite all those turnovers provided that he merely makes a few td pass or two to even it out. And my opponent this week has him. Blech.


On the bright side, at least I have Aaron Rodgers, who completely owned the Browns, completing 75% of his passes and posting a 155.4 passing rating. But he "only" put up 248 yards due to being rested on the bench for the 4th, so like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if Brees ends up somehow nearly matching him in points. fml
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Oct 2009, 18:02
Did we expect the pats to have a hard time ... no.

Did we look forward to english people trying to make US football understandable to their audience ... yes.

There is something fundamentally wrong and funny about watching a US football game with RP english commentary.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 25 Oct 2009, 18:15
Oh hey, apparently QPR are into 6th place in the Championship now, only four points off the pace and with a game in hand over everyone else. Cool!

Shame about who's in the boardroom these days, but hey, could be worse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Purchase_of_Manchester_City_Football_Club).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 25 Oct 2009, 21:39
45 - 10, Bears? Really? Really? Ugh. It wasn't broadcast in my area but I caught gamebreaks occasionally and after the fourth or fifth one I stopped screaming and just took the standard Chicago sports fan pose of shaking my head in shame.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 27 Oct 2009, 02:58
Yeah, that one surprised me a bit. I'd sort of expected the bears to knock off the bengals.

Bit of a shame that. I don't like those Tiggrs.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 27 Oct 2009, 08:02
I'm going to say something that will surprise most of you.  Last night's Skins/Eagles game actually gave me a little bit of hope.  Aside from some really huge fuck-ups (monumentally huge), we actually looked pretty damned good.  He just missed snaps, threw a stupid pass, decided that we didn't like holding onto the football while running and muffed a punt.  All you have to do is remove a couple of those plays and it would have been a football game.  Going into a bye week, I'm actually fairly confident that we can get something going, as long as Daniel Snyder doesn't get antsy and start firing people.  Also, Cooley being out is big, because our backup is completely and totally unable to block.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 27 Oct 2009, 18:58
Ugh. The Celtics could not be doing a better job of shitting this game away.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Oct 2009, 09:55
They won, though!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 28 Oct 2009, 21:58
Leeds are top of the league still, now by four points after beating Bristol Rovers 4-0 on tuesday night. I'm happy with how this season is going.

Jermaine Beckford scored two to become joint top goalscorer in League One. Both goals were his usual high standard but I especially enjoyed his clinical finish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fQOsldXgA#t=0m39s) in the second half. It's not even in the top twenty of great goals he's scored for Leeds over the last three seasons but it's a good demonstration of his bizarre ability to hide the ball at his own feet whilst beating defenders. This could well be his last season playing for us but I can't overstate how terrific the quality of his goals have been. He's currently on 64 goals from 97 games in a Leeds shirt. That's a remarkable record to say the least.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 29 Oct 2009, 03:08
Yeah! City beat the Iron and Johnno got a goal, hopefully that'll be good for his confidence and he'll lose that weight he put on.
re: Beckford; very nice goal and he looks like a talent for sure, just hope he doesn't get swooped up by a Premiership team.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 29 Oct 2009, 04:17
He's out of contract so it's somewhat inevitable that he will leave on a free at the end of the season. The manager and chairman decided it was worth letting him go to get one last season of goals out of him, hopefully clinching promotion in the process. If a Premiership or Championship team want him in the next transfer window, we're probably going to ask for something ridiculous like £4.0m. He's not worth half that frankly but as long as the press think he is, that'll be his price-tag.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 29 Oct 2009, 13:26
So I assume that the clippers are a pretty bad basketball team (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/fatal_staples_center_collapse).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 29 Oct 2009, 21:23
Oh, man, the Clippers are depressing. Their owner sucks, but put that aside for a second. They keep drafting guys who are pretty promising right? High draft picks that come in and tear it up in summer leagues and have all the physical talent needed to succed. Then their knees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Livingston) explode. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blake_Griffin)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 29 Oct 2009, 21:30
Man, now I'm bummed just thinking about it. Shaun Livingston has never been the same since his injury. Not even close. I've seen soccer injuries that looked as bad or worse, but none that were actually as catastrophic damage wise as his. Basically, everything in his knee became disconnected from the other parts.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Oct 2009, 02:46
The image you just conjured forth turned my stomach. How do you even get back from that?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Spluff on 30 Oct 2009, 03:23
It's no Nathan Brown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX2yxGK5ZZw) injury.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Oct 2009, 03:31
And there goes lunch.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: blanktom on 30 Oct 2009, 04:39
How can anybody forget about Eduardo's injury!

(http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2008/02/23/dud4.jpg)

The craziest thing is, this was only like a year or so ago and he's playing again, and playing pretty damn well!

EDIT: In case you can't fully comprehend what has happened there, his foot was hanging on by tendons and skin.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Oct 2009, 04:48
As a diet program, this thread is really starting to work for me.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Oct 2009, 06:15
So I assume that the clippers are a pretty bad basketball team (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/fatal_staples_center_collapse).

The Lakers play there too, though. And they're defending champs.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 30 Oct 2009, 08:12
EDIT: In case you can't fully comprehend what has happened there, his foot was hanging on by tendons and skin.

Dude, bone injuries heal way better than soft tissue injuries.  I'd say broken bones are no problem as far as playing again.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 30 Oct 2009, 08:43
As long as we're talking about knees exploding, here is most likely the worst injury in american football history (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ8yOie0BY8&feature=PlayList&p=2F169B06E12BB27D&index=5)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: 0bsessions on 30 Oct 2009, 09:22
I've always been partial to this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcqVloclNNI&feature=player_embedded).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 30 Oct 2009, 10:39
And there's always this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHCXNt4P8Xg&feature=related)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Aurjay on 30 Oct 2009, 10:54
maybe im doing it wrong but this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQEno0 was the nastiest id ever seen.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 30 Oct 2009, 11:05
Yeah you're doin it rite (but also wrong that is nasty)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 30 Oct 2009, 13:03
Dude, bone injuries heal way better than soft tissue injuries.

Yeah, and unfortunately for Shaun Livingston, he tore his ACL, PCL, plus had severe MCL sprain. That's 3 out of 4 major knee ligaments, for those counting at home. That his kneecap came loose and was quickly followed by his tibia is sadly almost an afterthought.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 31 Oct 2009, 01:56
ohhhhhhhhh myyyyyyy gooooodddddddd
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Aurjay on 31 Oct 2009, 07:45
Brilliant game in North London. Gunners defeat the Yid Army 3-0. If Arsenal keeps up this pace they might actually come away with some silverware.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2009, 08:07
Yeah, the Carling Cup's always an option for you guys.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 31 Oct 2009, 08:40
Yid Army

 :|
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Nov 2009, 08:05
All those injuries ... brrr ...

It just affirms my belief that I should stick to martial arts. Much safer.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 02 Nov 2009, 08:35
Do you want people to start posting youtube clips of all of the martial arts injuries from the past years?  Because that's what it sounds like you want us to do...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 02 Nov 2009, 08:43
I have a couple of cousins who have cross trained a bit in wrestling and kick boxing together, and all I hear now when someone says "martial arts" is "dislocated fingers."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 02 Nov 2009, 08:50
Also, muay thai fighters seem to break/dislocate elbows pretty much all the time. Usually by bashing them into the other guy's head repeatedly.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Nov 2009, 02:18
Well, I have a preferance for the arts coming out of Japan, so, Karate, JuiJitsui and Aikido. not much elbow smashing there.

Well, maybe a little.

Anyway, I never had anything serious happen to me and here's hoping that will stay that way.

So, how about that local sport's team? Are the baseball fans happy with the outcome of the worldseries?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 05 Nov 2009, 08:06
Man, fuck.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Nov 2009, 08:28
I am happy every time Philly loses.  I'm happy every time the Yankees lose, but they're from my division, so I kind of want them to win the world series just a tiny little bit.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 05 Nov 2009, 09:41
BMX is a sport, and I had to share this:

 War Torn BMX   (http://rideukbmx.com/news/rideukbmx-iraq-war-torn-bmx.html)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jhocking on 05 Nov 2009, 10:24
Well, I have a preferance for the arts coming out of Japan, so, Karate, JuiJitsui and Aikido. not much elbow smashing there.

Ironically, the original purpose of ju jitsu was to break the other guy's arms and legs. The moves are not about punching or kicking, it's literally a set of moves designed to break bones. Obviously that doesn't make it unsafe for modern competition (rather than breaking each other's bones, modern competitors are wrestling) but in the context of this discussion the history of this martial art is still ironic.

Incidentally, I'm assuming you are talking about the Japanese martial art ju jitsu; when I googled that exact spelling ("juijitsui") the results were about a Brazilian martial art. Derived from Japanese arts, yes, but apparently more like judo than the closer sounding ju jitsu.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Nov 2009, 22:01
I still don't know how to spell it. And if people tell me I forget.

It's just one of those words.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 06 Nov 2009, 04:53
Obligatory fuck the Yankees post.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 06 Nov 2009, 10:06
I hate fantasy football sometimes. I'm probably going to slowly lose the league due to attrition and bye weeks, mostly because the team I drafted was too good. My team rolled off 6 straight wins; I have the top scoring running back, the top scoring QB, 3 of the top 20 wide outs, the number 3 tight end. I even have the number 1 kicker and the number 5 defense despite the fact that I didn't even draft either position; I knew damn well that nobody would get those positions right so I simply waited 'till I could them up on the cheap. Unfortunately, all this early success means that I couldn't get anyone off the waiver wire while everyone else happily gutted their disappointing rosters and nabbed all the surprise breakout players while some of my backup players have stumbled. Even worse, I've lost a couple of matchups now, which has hurt my standings but not enough to let me get any relief in the waiver order. It's really annoying because I'm now tied with a guy whose team that has scored 100 less total points than mine but has had abysmally sad opponents whereas 5 out of 8 of my opponents would have led the league in scoring that week if I hadn't of beaten them. And now the lucky bastard faces my team just as my best player (who also plays my thinnest position!) goes on a bye week. Oh, and my starting quarterback has injured both feet. FML.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 08 Nov 2009, 12:24
Despite being sick, I went to the bar to watch the game, making sure to keep away from everyone.  My Redskins were mocking the way football was supposed to be played.  It was truly horrific.  So, I go home and try to get better.  Now they've completely come alive scoring 14 unanswered points.  Maybe I should avoid watching these guys every week.

edit:  Okay.  I was worried that we had actually become a good team.  All better now that they broke a damned run for 58 yards and a touchdown.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 08 Nov 2009, 13:17
Tampa Bay are winning 31-28, have possession, are on 4th and 1 at Green Bay's 31 yard line and the clock is at 01:48.... So close to winning their first game, but so far...


EDIT: Greenbay were 4th and 12 on their 11, they went to throw it, Tampa Bay intercepts and gets the TD! Games in the bag, Tampa Bay break their losing streak!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 08 Nov 2009, 15:05
The idea that the Lions have a chance to be the only team in the division to win a game this week is delicious. Any week where the Vikings can get ahead in the standings by not playing is a good week.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 08 Nov 2009, 15:07
I'm secretly hoping that the Lions win so that I can give my friend a hard time about liking such a shitty team.

Of course this all depends on whether or not the Niners can avoid sucking enough to not blow this game against the Titans.

Well, it seems the Niners are in fact doing their best to blow this game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 08 Nov 2009, 15:12
You know what I'm excited about? New Orleans (+119 point differential) vs. St. Louis (-144 point differential). It could end up like the Patriots-Titans debacle, except sadder, since St. Louis's terrible play is the product of genuine effort.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 08 Nov 2009, 17:06
Great to see the Wallabies win a game of rugby for a change. It'd be awesome if they could somehow manage the grand slam. At half-time in the match against England I honestly thought they were probably going to lose it, but their second half dominance was unbelievable. They've still got a nasty habit of bombing certain tries by not throwing the last pass to an unmarked player, and their discipline is still a worry, but hopefully they're getting better. It was a really entertaining game, the most entertaining I can remember seeing in a long time, with tactical kicking kept more or less to a minimum and both teams looking to run the ball (though with mixed results). And holy shit, I still can't believe Adam Ashley-Cooper managed to drag three defenders ten metres to score that try. Footage here, from 0:50: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2s_B4O41yU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2s_B4O41yU).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 08 Nov 2009, 22:03
I knew the Bears-Cards game was gonna go nowhere, but jeeeeeeez
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 06:25
(http://i37.tinypic.com/11jxcsz.jpg)

My favorite part: Drogba got booked for flapping around on the ground for five minutes afterwards, like a complete fucking idiot.

btw Ryan, the only reason Tampa won is because of those idiotic "creamsicle" throwbacks. Then again, when they wore them on a regular basis, they were TERRIBLE.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 09 Nov 2009, 06:38
My favourite part is that Manchester United lost the game and probably the league too. Awesome.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Theriandros on 09 Nov 2009, 06:48
Yeah, back in the founding days, the Buccaneers didn't even win a game till near the end of the second season of existence.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 07:08
My favourite part is that Manchester United lost the game and probably the league too. Awesome.

At this point last year, we were six points behind Chelsea, and still won the league. We're only five back this time around.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 09 Nov 2009, 07:24
My favourite part is that Manchester United lost the game and probably the league too. Awesome.

But how can you enjoy Manchester United losing, when Chelsea end up winning?

I grew up during the 90s when Man United were winning everything. Even as a 7 year old I found myself hating them for this. My opinions on them have not changed one bit over the past decade. Very few men can irritate my simply by being on TV the way Gary Neville can.

But at the same time, fuck Chelsea. I have spent the last few years trying to decide who to dislike the least. I change my mind seemingly every week. These two teams sum up everything I don't like about modern football. The constant hounding of referees; the diving; the persecution complexes; the huge discrepancies between their budgets and everybody elses; Frank Fucking Lampard. Why do they have to win everything?

At least they don't have Phil Brown in charge I suppose.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 09 Nov 2009, 07:29
Football should be more like the NFL. Having salary caps would be a huge plus to the game I reckon.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 07:31
But how can you enjoy Manchester United losing, when Chelsea end up winning?

A) Tommy's a Leeds United supporter

B) DROGBA GOT BOOKED FOR GETTING A BOOT TO THE CHEST! What a fuck.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 09 Nov 2009, 07:36
He got booked for rolling around like a fucking pussy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 09 Nov 2009, 09:35
At this point last year, we were six points behind Chelsea, and still won the league. We're only five back this time around.

Not this year. Unless they spend big in January. I would argue that most of Ferguson's signings over the last ten years have been thoroughly mediocre and it's finally reached the point whereby these players constitute most of his squad.

Quote from: Rudi Voller
But how can you enjoy Manchester United losing, when Chelsea end up winning?

Anyone but Man Utd is better. I'd prefer Arsenal or Liverpool but Chelsea will do. At least they play decent football on their day. If you actually add together all the insane signings Ferguson has made during his reign at Manchester United he's spent a lot more than Abramovich. Ancelotti is a likeable chap too.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 09:51
Tommy, I think Eric Djemba-Djemba-Djemba-Djemba-Djemba-Djemba-Djemba-Djemba-Djemba was only signed for two dollars. They paid Diego Forlan and Alan Smith in hair product, and Dong Fangzhou..well..did he ever actually play for United? They signed him for a case of Snickers.

(Maybe I am mixing up "worth" and "market price", though.)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 09 Nov 2009, 10:16
To give a recent example he paid over thirty million pounds for Dimitar Berbatov when he was 28.

This move displaced Carlos Tevez, an underrated striker and more importantly, a credible play-maker (which post-Ronaldo is exactly what United are missing). Not to say that Berbatov is a bad player because he's terrific on his day. However, he's not worth even half what Manchester United paid for him, especially given his age. At the time Berbatov was signed, Manchester United had absolutely no need for a player like Berbatov and his introduction to the squad changed the way a number of crucial players operated on the pitch. He literally pissed away thirty million pounds to upset his own team. Like I've always said, for the money he's spent, Ferguson is the biggest underachiever in footballing history. Given the same money, I think virtually everyone with even a passing knowledge of football could have easily emulated his success given the same kind of budget.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 09 Nov 2009, 10:56
Given the same money, I think virtually everyone with even a passing knowledge of football could have easily emulated his success given the same kind of budget.

I reckon Kevin Keegan would have done a worse job than Ferguson did. And Berbatov was a better £30m than Veron was. And both were better value than Kleberson.

I think my biggest problem with Chelsea is that they went from being Gianfranco Zola to what they are now. A thoroughly likeable guy, playing for a pretty likeable team. Then they got all the cash, no longer likeable and they completely screwed over Adrian Mutu. I struggle to name one Chelsea player I do not mind. At least Man United have always had Giggs and Solskjaer, whereas the nicest thing I can say about Chelsea is that they aren't Rangers.

I certaintly won't celebrate should either of them win, but I think I'd be less annoyed at Man U winning than at Chelsea. If John Terry would cry again, then that would be pretty much ideal.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 11:00
Don't ever say Kleberson's name again. He and David Bellion were two of the dumbest signings I've ever seen.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 09 Nov 2009, 11:04
How dare you speak ill of King Kev, architecht of one of the greatest seasons of championship football ever in 01-02
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 09 Nov 2009, 11:27
I thought it was a reasonable comparison, as Keegan was given a great deal of cash at Newcastle in the 90s, and still failed to bring the title home. Even at Fulham and Man City, he had a fair amount of money for non-Premiership teams.

Don't ever say Kleberson's name again. He and David Bellion were two of the dumbest signings I've ever seen.

How about Liam Miller then? What was the point in signing him? How about Park Ji-Sung still getting a game? Nani and Valencia costing £30million between them?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 11:38
I love Park. Park off the bench, especially.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 09 Nov 2009, 12:20
I rate Park too. He's a decent impact player and he probably brings in substantial revenue from Asia.

I should mention it's not so much the players Ferguson buys as how much he is willing to pay for particular players. Carrick and Hargreaves were/are good players but how much did he pay for the pair? Far too much considering what they have ultimately contributed.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 09 Nov 2009, 13:35
Sometimes it's not about good or bad but market value. Even as a English football outsider, I have an inkling of what Tommy is talking about, since managers routinely overpaying somewhat expendable players is a frustrating situation that can happen in any professional team sport you care to name. Some teams essentially end up bidding against themselves when pursuing players and it can really end up throwing everything out of whack in the long run. Paying a fairly average 27 year old premiership player 2.5 million when you could have replaced him for half that doesn't sound like a gigantic misstep by sport standards, but it can really hurt you in the end when a rising young star's agent sees that salary and says "Well, my man is worth at least twice as much as that shmuck." It reminds me of how the local NBA team here in Minnesota operated for many years; they routinely overpaid veteran backups by two to three million each a year as opposed to cycling in untested youngsters on the cheap. That doesn't sound like much money by NBA standards, but when you add up the sum total you'll find that many teams could afford another useful roleplayer if they could just avoid such missteps.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 09 Nov 2009, 22:28
A post in which I defend a Brett Favre interception.

I can't get over this whole Favre-is-a-Viking thing. I know everyone else on the planet is sick of hearing it, but to me, it's still sinking in it. This is some bizarro world shit going on. I realized today that I've been actively defending his play for a while now. If you had told me this would happen in 1996 I would have looked at you like you were a god damned space alien.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 10 Nov 2009, 13:27
A very sad story from the world of International football today as German Goalkeeper Robert Enke died:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8353733.stm

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1110/enke.html

The reports say he was hit by a train and suspicion is that he committed suicide after the death of his daughter from a rare heart condition in 2006 when she was 2 years old.

He had recently been confirmed as the number 1 Goalkeeper for the German national side and would in all likelihood have been the Goalkeeper at the World Cup Finals in South Africa.

Update: It has been confirmed as a suicide

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/11112009/58/bundesliga-enke-death-confirmed-suicide.html
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Nov 2009, 14:04
The Bears are on Thursday night Football but  NFL Network is the only place that's airing it. FFFFUUUU
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Nov 2009, 14:04
... probably gonna lose anyway. Our defense is falling apart.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Nov 2009, 19:09
uggggggggghhhhhhhh
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 14 Nov 2009, 11:36
This short animated film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14) is all about Dock Ellis pitching a no-hitter for the Phillies against the Padres back in 1970.

Oh did I mention he was off his face on LSD when he did it?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 14 Nov 2009, 13:13
Did you know the song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds by Williams Shatner is about LCD too?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 14 Nov 2009, 13:23
LCD Soundsystem?!

Seriously - I can't work out if you are kidding or not but that is a Lennon/McCartney song. The former went to his grave denying any drug reference. It was actually based on a drawing by his kid. Or so he claimed.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 14 Nov 2009, 13:27
OH SHIT

edit:
Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto, anybody bothered?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 14 Nov 2009, 14:05
I am interested but I don't know whether I will watch it live with it being broadcast at around 3:30am GMT. It's going to be a very difficult fight for Pacquiao with Cotto only losing one bout in his career but I think he will just about win it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 15 Nov 2009, 17:17
You know who's team is definitely not going to lose today?  Mine.  The Redskins will, in fact, avoid tacking on losses at least two Sundays in a row.

Congratulations!

Also, are the cowboys collapsing ahead of schedule this year?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 15 Nov 2009, 17:21
I hope.  Maybe we can stretch it to two wins in a row.  The Skins usually keep it pretty close for NFC East games, no matter how bad they are, so if the Cowboys are falling apart, we could end up winning that game.  Hell, we might end up at .500 (we won't).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 Nov 2009, 17:33
So I ended up staying up to watch the Pacquiao vs. Cotto fight and wow, was that a one-sided fight or what? Right from the off Pacquiao was all over him with completely unmatched speed and movement while Cotto tried to pick a one-punch KO from pretty much nowhere. Mid-fight Cotto tried to change his tactics a little by doing more legwork and making Pacquiao chase him around the ring to hit him but by the time he tried this the fight was already over as he had been knocked down (commentary claimed twice but I still maintain that the first time he fell to the mat was more of a slip than from being hit).

Now a champion across 7 different weight divisions, there is surely nothing that anyone can say that would prevent him from being recognised as an all-time great boxer and at only 30 years old there is still time to add some more belts to his collection.

My personal opinion is that it would take an awful lot for him to make it 8 divisions as that would mean straying from his optimum weight by much more than is really possible for maintaining a boxing style that he is used to; too much weight would prevent his movement around the ring from being as spry and difficult to watch as it usually is and too little weight would remove some of the power in his punches that he optimises well. However, a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. (bringing him out of retirement once again) to try to prove the best fighter of the last decade is a possibility with only one weight division the difference between them (Pacquiao classed at Light Welterweight and Mayweather Jr. classed as a Welterweight), a fight that anyone with even a remote interest in professional boxing would be drooling to see.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 15 Nov 2009, 17:36
Pacquiao performed a concert afterwards, what a man.
In sports today: WOOOOO BENGALS WOO.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 15 Nov 2009, 18:16
I dunno, all things considered, the Cowboys loss was bad, but doesn't necessarily say much about their odds in other games due to the fumbles. Even if you put the ball on the ground, there's still a chance the other team won't come up with it, and they're an easy thing for the refs to get involved with, so you never really know which way they will go. Obviously it's not a good sign that they happen, but I'd still take Dallas over a lot of teams.

Well, in the regular season, at least.


I'm bummed out that the Pack won though. If they had lost, I would have started campaigning that the Vikings bench Favre so he could just show up to games with a newspaper, slippers and a smoking jacket until playoff time rolls around. Sadly, he probably cares about his consecutive start record and I suppose it'd be nice to at least stay in theoretical contention for the number 1 seed, although I don't really think the Vikings have a realistic chance of overtaking New Orleans. Still, I can't see anyone else in the NFC North making a run at this point.
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Post by: scarred on 15 Nov 2009, 19:13
That Bungles win over the Pittsburghs was pretty impressive. The defense gets all the credit there.

Also, anyone surprised that the Colts are down 24 - 14 to the Pats at halftime? I mean, they're definitely still in it, but they're not really playing with much intensity and I think that's what's given the Pats the edge (that, and the pass rush, Peyton doesn't look comfortable in the pocket yet).
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Post by: Alex C on 15 Nov 2009, 19:28
The only thing that could really surprise me about that game would be a truly one sided blowout, which just isn't happening. There's a lot to like about the Patriots and Indy is really good but has some holes here and there, particularly in the secondary. This is kind of an issue, since, you know, Randy Moss still plays football.

I'm still kind of pissed that we traded him.
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Post by: scarred on 15 Nov 2009, 19:40
He is a total dingbat though. He was T.O. before it was the new hip thang.
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Post by: Alex C on 15 Nov 2009, 19:52
You realize that Terrell Owens got into deep shit a couple times before Randy even was in the league, right?'

Randy Moss had maturity issues, it's true. He's a dingbat and a distraction at times. He wasn't anywhere near as bad as Owens though. Owens actively antagonized his teammates. A few players like Culpepper and Robert Smith didn't get along with Randy, but if you lived in the Minneapolis area, you'd find that people not getting along with Culpepper was a pretty damned common issue and Robert Smith was frankly pretty sick of football before Randy even came on board. Randy Moss doesn't necessarily always care about football, but he did actually care about his teammates so he wasn't as bad of an internal issue as T.O. often was even if he was commonly a media target; he was a wreck over Korey Stringer's death, for example.

Also, it's not covered in the media very often, but basically, Daunte is kind of an ass and I suspect that the team wouldn't have kept him around if he weren't a highly drafted QB with a nice arm. There's a reason nobody was exactly dying to scoop him off the scrapheap once his knee went, and it's not all just because he probably couldn't run anymore.  I'll say it again: that he didn't get along with Randy isn't very surprising; Daunte wasn't really known to get along with anybody.
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Post by: Alex C on 15 Nov 2009, 20:09
I can't stress this enough, btw: Minnesota is one of the few states where the local media still really protects their players more often than not. That's why you hear about things like Randy Moss's legal issues but not about the some of the wonderful Daunte urban legends floating around; if it's public record, the national media picks up on it pretty quick. But things like Kevin Garnett routinely punching out his teammates (yes, that's a plural; he'd punch out guys in summer league games) gets quashed quicker than you can imagine.

Hell, ESPN hired a Minneapolis based writer to cover their NFC North blog and it is now the most blatantly homer section of the site short of a Bill Simmons Larry Bird column.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 16 Nov 2009, 02:34
Ugh.

Pats.

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Post by: scarred on 16 Nov 2009, 02:57
As much as I've kept my grudge against the Colts from the BearColt Super Bowl, it's always a happy day when the Pats lose. At least Bill & Brady waited till time expired to jog off the field (without so much as a "good game"). When they left with 30 seconds to go in the Super Bowl, well, that was just hilarious(ly unsportsmanlike).
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Nov 2009, 07:27
I could have sworn I saw Brady go and shake Manning's hand after the game.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 16 Nov 2009, 07:59
NEEDZ MOAR ICE HOCKEY

So now that the season is around 1/5 to 1/4 of the way through the league is starting to shape up and we can see what teams are going to have a chance of finishing where. To all you Tronno and Carolina people out there i'm sorry but your season is over already; all other teams still stand a chance of making the playoffs but I am going to go ahead and discount St. Louis and Florida too as they don't seem to have strong enough rosters to stand a chance of turning it around later in the season.

For teams supported on the forum: the Flyers are distinctly average right now relying heavily on Richards, Carter and Pronger though with Emery in goal this season there are many less issues in that respect but it doesn't mean the rest of the team can slack off like they are doing; The Bruins are sucking out loud and really need to get into focus over the next 10 games or so otherwise they will see themselves slipping away from the playoff bubble and having what would amount to a disastrous season; someone supports the Capitals, i believe, who are moving along steadily at the top end of the table although with Ovechkin out injured are struggling a little (as would be expected when you lose arguably the world's best player). I don't think that there are any more supported teams here but a shout out to the Islanders is deserved after their great turnaround from the first 10 games when they were losing in OT every game to their progression into the playoff bubble with a great chance of making it provided they keep key players injury free.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 16 Nov 2009, 08:50
Who needs Ovechkin when you've got Varlamov ensuring that nobody scores a goal, ever?  Also, I am happy that Bill apparently screwed the Patriots by making a poor decision (what I heard?), because I fucking hate that man.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 16 Nov 2009, 15:18
Actually, the Caps have conceded more goals than almost all of the other teams sitting in the playoff spots right now (Columbus Blue Jackets and LA Kings the only exceptions) and more than a couple of the non-playoff sitting teams too.

Varlamov does indeed have better than average stats but he is by no means preventing the other teams from scoring (22 GA in 9 games, 0 shutouts) though he looks certain to become the #1 Caps goalie any time soon with Theodore struggling so badly (3.08GAA). Regular high-scoring wins are what has kept the Caps up at the top with the last 5 results being: 2-5L; 1-3W; 4-5W; 4-7W; 4-1W (21GF, 15GA).
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Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Nov 2009, 19:07
Dear Players of Grimsby Town FC: An Ode to Long-Suffering Sports Supporters everywhere (http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1257631840/s-0/)

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Dear Players of Grimsby Town FC

I am writing with regard to my absolute astonishment and disbelief as to the sheer magnitude of your complete lack of talent and failure to carry out the job for which you are paid to do. I am not aware of any swear word or other derogatory phrase in my current vocabulary which comes close to a description of your ‘performance’ (and I use that term loosely) this afternoon, but let me just say that you have collectively reached a level of inadequacy and ineptitude that neither I nor modern science had previously considered possible.

In fact I recall a time, in my youth, when I decided to call in sick at work and instead spent the entire day in my one bedroom flat wearing nothing but my underpants, eating toast and wánking furiously over second-rate Scandinavian porn. Yet somehow, I still managed to contribute more to my employer in that one Andrex-filled day than you complete bunch of toss-baskets have contributed to this club in your entire time here.

I would genuinely like to know how you pathetic little píssflaps sleep at night, knowing full well that you have taken my money and that of several thousand others and delivered precisely fúck all in return. I run a business myself, and I believe I could take any 4,000 of my customers at random; burn down their houses, impregnate their wives and then dismember their children before systematically sending them back in the post, limb-by-limb, and still ensure a level of customer satisfaction which exceeds that which I have experienced at Blundell Park at any time so far this season.

You are a total disgrace, not only to your profession, not only to the human race, but to nature itself. This may sound like an exaggeration, but believe me when I say that I have passed kidney stones which have brought me a greater level of pleasure and entertainment than watching each of you worthless excuses for professional footballers attempt to play a game you are clearly incapable of playing, week-in, week-out.

I considered, for a second, that I was perhaps being a little too harsh. But then I recalled that I have blindly given you all the benefit of the doubt for too long now. Yes, for too long you have failed to earn the air you’ve been breathing by offering any kind of tangible quality either as footballers or as people in general. As such, I feel it’s only fair that your supply runs out forthwith.

I trust, at this precise moment in time, that Mr Fenty is in his office tapping away on the Easyjet web site booking you all one-way flights to Zurich, complete with an overnight stay with our cheese eating friends at Dignitas. Don’t bother packing your toothbrush – you won’t need it.

In the event that our beloved chairman can’t afford the expense (understandable given that he’s soon going to have to assemble a new squad from scratch), then I am prepared to sell my family (including my unborn child) to a dubious consortium of Middle Eastern businessmen in order to pay for the flights. Christ, I’ll drive you there myself, one-by one, without sleep, if I have to.

Failing that, understanding that most dubious Middle Eastern businessmen are tied-up purchasing Premier League football clubs, I ask you to please take matters into your hands. Use your imagination, guys – strangle yourselves or cover yourself in tinfoil and take a fork to a nearby plug socket, or something. Just put yourselves and us fans out of our collective misery.

So, in summary, you pack of repugnant, sputum-filled, invertebrate bástards; leave this club now and don’t you fúcking dare look back. You’ve consistently demonstrated less passion and desire than can commonly be found within the contents of a sloth’s scrótum, so frankly you can just all fúck off – don’t pass go, don’t collect your wages, don’t ever come back to this town again.

I look forward to you serving me at my local McDonald’s drive-thru in the near future.

Yours sincerely


A very disillusioned Mariner

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 16 Nov 2009, 19:17
hah @ the fishy men.
Magic of the FA Cup.
Go Bath City!
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 16 Nov 2009, 19:22
That is a fantastic rant that long-suffering fans everywhere can likely relate to.
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Post by: Yayniall on 16 Nov 2009, 19:40
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Forward With Negouai

Say what you like about Kevin Keegan. But, when he described Christian Negouai as "the most exciting player" he'd ever signed, he could scarcely be accused of over-egging the pudding. Agreed, 'exciting' is not how all fans expressed Christian's arrival. But, subsequent events have proved KK right. Of course, one makes these extravagant claims during moments of excitement - KK made a career out of it. And, let's be honest, he's hardly a man given to understatement. On this occasion though, our former manager could possibly have gone further. Because, with the best will in the world, 'exciting' doesn't even begin to describe Christian Negouai. It doesn't come close. Would it be immodest to claim that he's the most exciting player of all time? Sure, there have been 'great' players. 'All Time Greats', even. But you will search in vain for anyone who's generated as much God-knows-what-this-guy's-going-to-do-next exhilaration with such little effort? Who else has crammed so much breathtaking lunacy into so few minutes of football? For sheer amusement, you'd have to go a long, long way to find a player with a career as wincingly magnetic as our No. 30.

My own curiosity in Christian Negouai was kick-started by what remains the most blatant 'hand of God' moment connected with the club since Bobby MacDonald punched one in against Peterborough United in the 1980-81 FA Cup run. It would be difficult to exaggerate how badly Christian played during his home debut versus Rotherham. There was, for some, a question mark against his passing. Frankly, it wasn't all it could have been. Realising immediately that passing (long or short range) was not within his field of reference, those present wondered if crunching tackles might be his thing instead. An 'Enforcer', perhaps? Sadly not. The spirit seemed willing enough. The body less so. Stricken by indecision, little came off for our hero as he failed to adjust to Maine Road's wide open spaces. He had the air of having just jumped up from a heavy meal. The game seemed to pass him by. Incredibly, he went on to 'score' by palming the ball over the line (a skill in itself) from a corner.

All right so far then? Off to a nice start.

Of course, it couldn't last. And, after a long run (by Christian's standards) of uninterrupted football, the boom finally fell (three days later!) away at Blackburn in the Worthington Cup. Remember, by this point, Christian had already amassed around two hours in a City shirt (he'd made his actual debut the week before at Portsmouth). As anyone will tell you, that kind of punishing schedule can only be maintained for so long. And so it proved. Following two of his, now trademark, lunges he was sent off for two bookable offences. Harsh.

There followed the first of Christian's notorious - and numerous - 'quiet' periods. Little is known of the artist's movements during these mysterious absences. But they have become a feature of his time with the club. Suffice it to say that, after the success of his 'early work', not much was seen of the 'leggy' midfielder for a while as he got down to the serious business of skiving. Cruelly, injury deprived him of any further cameos during the remainder of his debut season. Even in extremis though, Christian has always retained the happy knack of being able to let things go from bad to worse, to even worse, to all time low. For, where Christian leads, controversy follows - even into the Treatment Room. Operations on both knees were soon diagnosed. A devastating blow. Rest and relaxation prescribed. Christian knew better, of course, and ignored the club's medical advice.

Needless to say, his recovery took longer than expected. KK went berserk. And, by the time he finally re-emerged (for the Reserves in the Senior Cup Final - during the last game of the second year of his contract) he'd fallen way down the midfield batting order. Difficult times. If there was a thin shard of sunlight poking through that gloomy period though, it was the news that Christian intended to apply for Belgian citizenship in an effort to advance his international aspirations - modestly, he accepted that Zidane had got a stranglehold on his coveted French No. 10 shirt. His hopes were boosted when he netted (again!) on his return to the first team. Astonishingly, this time it was in Europe. The UEFA Cup, no less!

Dizzy with expectation, by now, many of us had persuaded ourselves we had a real cult hero in our midst. If anything, his credentials were enhanced even further when he unwittingly became embroiled in a 'doping' scandal that later became tangled up in the FA's president-setting treatment of forgetful Rio Ferdinand. The fact that Christian's failure to be tested (he claimed he had to nip to the airport to pick his mum up) was met with a mere slap on the wrists - Ferdinand went on to receive a high-profile six-month ban - only increased his share price amongst Blues. But if his stock was rising off the pitch, he was no closer to securing regular football on it. Frustration.

Another quiet period followed - this time in, of all places, Austria, where he set up camp on loan to Sturm Graz. Ahead of schedule though, Christian was back at his beloved City. His self exile over, Christian continued his purposeful slide into degradation by turning out for the Reserves. That he ended up opening the bowling for Asa Hartford's young side, operating as Centre Forward was hardly a matter of choice. One has the impression the club's coaches felt they'd tried him everywhere else (midfield, in 'the hole', central defence). Why not up front? Feed off his flick-ons. Could work.

With bewildering speed he was back in a first team shirt again. There are times when the occasion seems to demand Christian Negouai. And a meaningless October Carling Cup tie at home to an under-strength Champions Select XI appeared a perfect arena for another comeback. Those of us, who, by now, were hooked on Negouai, could have been forgiven for expecting things to go wrong. But not quite to the extent they did. Let's just say the result was not altogether the success we had anticipated. Clearly, he was rusty and couldn't be risked for the full 90. The plan was to hold the Champions for as long as possible. And then unleash Christian, late on, to exploit Arsenal's tired legs. He came on with 20 minutes to go.

Within minutes though, 13 to be precise, he was back on more familiar territory - the bench. The sub had been subbed! To be fair, he'd been involved in a horrible injury. Taking his courage in both hands, our no. 30 had charged after a loose ball. Stretching for it (in the midst of a cold snap, remember) he found he'd arrived at the touchline without changing down the requisite number of gears. And, having failed to make provision for a pitch-side puddle, he crumpled to the ground - in stages. I swear the wind died for a moment or two, before, with his dignity in motion, Christian signalled for the physio. And that was that.

His next soon-to-be-abandoned match featured another run out as sub. Boxing Day, 2004. Away at Everton. And the slapstick continued. This time he only lasted 3 minutes. A record? Intent on more mayhem, Christian ran straight into problems - more accurately, Marcus Bent. Straight red. Unbelievable. He stood around being devastated for what seemed the appropriate length of time. And then folded his bat. That capped it. Something snapped within KK. And Christian was, literally, sent to Coventry - with largely disappointing results. To no-one's surprise, injury (a recurring theme) cut short his stay in the Midlands. And Christian was back in the stands by the time Keegan gave way to Pearce and the proverbial slate was wiped clean.

How our hearts danced when Christian was named as a sub for the Liverpool game. I shudder to think what he'd have cooked up for us if he'd been let off the leash that day. But it wasn't to be. No yellow cards. No straight red. No controversy. No nothing really. A huge disappointment - and what is known, in Negouai terms, as a 'collector's item'. Certainly a sad way to bow out.

It seems unlikely we will ever see his like again. At the time of writing he appears to have been confined to barracks - once again, held hostage by his past. Cut adrift. After a series of failures, each more dismal than the last, a recall now looks unlikely. And yet, many Blues maintain that Keegan has been more or less exonerated - and I would suggest more rather than less.

In an age of rush and hurry, Christian always did things his own way. Utterly unsuited to the task of playing football, I maintain that Christian Negouai is still the 'most exciting player' I have ever seen.

To end with this. When researching this piece, I looked up Christian's career stats on the club's official site. My jaw dropped when I saw he wasn't listed under 'midfielders' in the official squad run-down. Panic. Then I noticed our midfield had been sub-divided into 'defensive' and 'attacking' midfielders. I scanned the 'attacking' nominees. Not there either. Momentarily flustered, I began casting around amongst other hiding places. Central defence? Striker? Nothing. On the brink of giving up, I scrolled down. And there he was. Filed simply under 'Midfielder, Christian Negouai.' Alone. In a class of his own. To the last, utterly unique.

Forward with Negouai!

Durutti City, May 2005
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 16 Nov 2009, 23:39
Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto

Man, I know a guy who is still insisting that Cotto could have/should have won that fight if it weren't for the 4th round. I mean, I get that cognitive dissonance is a bitch and that he doesn't like Pacquiao, but c'mon! You can't say "Except for the round where he nearly got reduced to a small bloody pile, changing the complexion of the fight, he was winning," with a straight face and expect me to take you seriously.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 16 Nov 2009, 23:44
You can't say "Except for the round where he nearly got reduced to a small bloody pile, changing the complexion of the fight, he was winning," with a straight face and expect me to take you seriously.

The funniest thing about this is that there was only 1, maybe 1 1/2 rounds where Cotto didn't almost get reduced to a small, bloody pile.
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Nov 2009, 00:04
Yeah, I've seen a tape of the fight although I didn't see it live. Cotto was game for a few rounds, but then Manny hurt him bad and it turned into a one sided but leisurely paced beatdown for the rest of the night. Sometimes boxing is just that simple.
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Post by: tommydski on 18 Nov 2009, 15:13
Poor Ireland won't be going to the World Cup next year after losing to France this evening. They played brilliantly and deserved to go through based on tonight's performance alone.

The real shame is that they were essentially knocked out by a goal scored by William Gallas in extra time. The ball was supplied by Thierry Henry and let's just say there was a hint of handball -

(http://i48.tinypic.com/24exhy8.gif)
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Post by: Jace on 18 Nov 2009, 16:35
NEEDZ MOAR ICE HOCKEY

Thanks for getting me back into hockey Rob.

So guys, I'm following the Buffalo Sabres. Half my family is from there and I am moving there so I'll be able to go and watch games. I'm pleased to see that they aren't doing terribly. Also, FUCK YES I LOVE HOCKEY.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Nov 2009, 11:45
hint of handball

Fucking hint? Henry himself said it was a definite handball.
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Post by: tommydski on 19 Nov 2009, 12:03
To be fair, it's unclear as to whether or not he was actually using telekinesis.
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Nov 2009, 15:11
Also the hand may have been possessed, so it's possible it wasn't even Henry's fault when he handled the ball and then extended his arm so that the ball rolled in down it towards his foot.
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Post by: chowburger on 19 Nov 2009, 15:23
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Arriving at a summit meeting of EU leaders in Brussels, Brian Cowen [head of the Irish government] said he agreed with calls for a replay since, 'fair play is a fundamental part of the game.'

He said he would be discussing the matter with the French President Nicholas Sarkozy on the margins of the summit although he did not want 'to raise it to high diplomatic status.'

Srs business, you guys. (http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1119/ireland.html)
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Post by: supersheep on 19 Nov 2009, 16:56
fucking hell that is ridiculous

i mean i was as pissed off as anyone but it's all over and done with now. we can claim the moral high ground "sure we won it really apart from that cheating bastard". also why the FUCK is our government boohooing to the french government about this, shouldn't he be busy dealing with the NAMA and the recession and all that other malarkey? don't we have a minister for sports to deal with this?
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Nov 2009, 17:39
If they were really serious about the result of a football match they'd go to war over it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Nov 2009, 03:54
Happened. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War)
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Post by: Inlander on 20 Nov 2009, 03:57
Yes, indeed.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 20 Nov 2009, 03:58
[...]
FUCK YES I LOVE HOCKEY.

What I like about hockey is that when pictures are taken of teams and the team is asked to smile you see an overwhelming number of holes where teeth ought to be. Like a dentist commercial in reverse.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Nov 2009, 15:17
I do love the fact that Ovechkin proudly rocks the missing teeth. You've got this dude who's pretty much the face of the league, talent pouring out the ass, and he looks like shit all the time. All scruffy and missing a front tooth.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/magazine/specials/sportsman/2008/11/24/price.ovechkin/alexander-Ovechkin.e-.jpg)

edit: Can you give me some shots vodka, please? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1yeT1f2jg)
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 22 Nov 2009, 15:50
Why did we have to play a better game and get stuck with 7-6?  Fuck you Suisham.  Fuck you in your stupid, kicker ass.
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Post by: CardinalFang on 22 Nov 2009, 15:55
I seriously expected we'd get our asses kicked. Actually getting so close to winning almost made it worst.
Why did they try a 50 yd FG? WHY?!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 22 Nov 2009, 17:26
I woke up today totally expecting the Vikings to win, because they are very good and the Seahawks are pretty bad. So that was pretty cool; I haven't truly been in "I am confident my team will take care of business and defeat a clearly inferior opponent," territory for quite a while. Midway through the second quarter I turned the game off as it became obvious the Vikings were going to completely destroy the Seahawks and went to go help a lady friend I hadn't seen in a long time pick up some furniture from her parents' house. I've known her family for years, since she went to high school with my sister and they're card carrying born-in-Wisconsin Packer fans. This meant I got to cheerfully heckle her dad while moving stuff out to her car, which eventually led to a good natured but occasionally heated argument in which the lady explained to her dad that she felt more loyalty to Favre than to the Packers. It was delicious. Plus, to paraphrase Zombieland and keep the sports analogies going, I got intentionally walked to 1st pretty much the second we got to her place. This season has been surreal and frankly I don't even care how the playoffs turn out anymore.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 23 Nov 2009, 11:41
Bloody Bengals and Bloody City.
=(
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 23 Nov 2009, 14:13
The Bears-Eagles game was ugly all over, but when Donovan McNabb took Jay Cutler aside after the game and talked to him for a full two minutes, it made my heart swell. You just never see that kind of thing in the league anymore - a veteran player giving advice to a younger player, telling him not to worry about the media, not to listen to the boos from the crowd, just keep your head up, go back to practice and do better next week. Fans are fickle and all you can do is do your best and learn from your mistakes. What a class act. So much respect for Donovan McNabb right now.

In other news, the whole "do better next week" thing probably won't work out because we're playing the Vikings. ffffuuuuu
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Post by: Yayniall on 23 Nov 2009, 14:40
I liked seeing that too.
Who knows more about being unnecessarily booed than Donovan?
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 23 Nov 2009, 14:44
In other news, the whole "do better next week" thing probably won't work out because we're playing the Vikings. ffffuuuuu

We're up against the Lions coming off their close call against the Cleveland Browns.  I am terribly worried about next week.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 23 Nov 2009, 14:51
I liked seeing that too.
Who knows more about being unnecessarily booed than Donovan?

Srsly. I think I'm the only Bears fan I know who's not flip-flopped on the Cutler issue, and has been supporting him from the beginning. Everybody likes him when he plays well, and hates him when he doesn't. He's like the Boston Red Sox of Chicago. People need to realize that a young QB in a new system with the youngest receiver set in the league isn't going to take us to the Super Bowl just yet. Granted, he could be playing better, but there are a lot of factors that need to be taken into account. Lovie Smith / Ron Turner haven't ever coached a QB of his caliber, for one thing, and the playbook isn't built for him - on another note, he's used to throwing to Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal, not inexperienced rookies and Devin "I've Fallen And I Can't Get Up" Hester. The fact that our O-line is about as strong as a rotten picket fence doesn't help anything, either, and they're the main reason our running game can't get off the ground. On top of this, the defense has been suffering from a plague of injuries, though in the past couple of games it looks like they've finally gelled a bit.


Simply put, the Bears as a team are a mess this year and Cutler's less-than-superstar playing is a minor issue that's being trotted out as the reason for all our woes when it's just not the case.

/ends rant.

Ugh fans are stupid and make me raeg.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 23 Nov 2009, 14:54

In other news, the whole "do better next week" thing probably won't work out because we're playing the Vikings.

The Bears just about always play us tough, but yeah, with that o-line I suspect the post game reports will look something like this:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/Xyljin/Allenwithbear.jpg)
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Post by: scarred on 23 Nov 2009, 15:16
The best part is I'm probably going to be watching that game in a household of Vikings fans.

Wait, did I say best? I meant I will take my own life.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 23 Nov 2009, 15:33
Bears offense doesn't consist of nearly enough passes to Forte.
Or that mighty pair of tight ends.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 23 Nov 2009, 16:20
Bears offense doesn't consist of nearly enough passes to Forte. good passing plays

And the reasons. (http://www.bearshistory.com/lore/chicagobearsquarterbacks.aspx)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 25 Nov 2009, 12:45
Leeds United report. Top of the league by six points, potentially nine if we win our game in hand. Yesterday we drew a blank for 80 minutes against Leyton Orient until Max Gradel did this -

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2pq0xev.gif)

That was our twentieth unbeaten game in a row at Elland Road. At this rate we would finish the season on 114 points, which is essentially unheard of. There's a real sense of belief amongst these players and promotion is starting to look realistic.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 25 Nov 2009, 13:51
I have never seen Gradel play before. Does he do that on a regular basis? There can't be many teams in League 1 who can afford to put someone capable of that on the bench. The only way this Leeds side weren't going to go up was if they imploded again. You seem to have got a managed able to avoid this, from what I've seen of him so far.

And Man U lost. Always nice to see, but I'm not sure quite what difference it makes as they've already qualified and it wasn't a full strength team.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 25 Nov 2009, 15:08
Gradel has done that a few times already for Leeds. Coming off the bench he's a match-winner. I wouldn't start him though, he works best as an impact player. I think he might stay until the end of the season since he doesn't seem to be anywhere near the Leicester team right now.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 25 Nov 2009, 15:27
Considering he almost fell over the ball and his own feet I can't imagine he does that kind of thing a lot.

However, after recent events I am not exactly happy with football. Liverpool are having their worst season for a few years having finished 3rd in their group in the Champion's League and are now in the Europa League which is basically a souvenir trophy that we shouldn't be touching with a barge pole. Also, league form is not exactly great, being around 15 points behind the leaders and not even in the top 4. What the fuck is going on?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 25 Nov 2009, 15:37
There's obviously been a lot of uncertainty regarding the owners and that has filtered down into the staff. A couple of great players went out of the door and the ones that came in haven't filled the void. Half the first team is out injured right now and there clearly isn't enough money on the horizon to bring in suitable replacements. I feel sorry for Benitez right now, he's playing against a marked deck.
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Post by: Inlander on 25 Nov 2009, 16:05
Considering he almost fell over the ball and his own feet I can't imagine he does that kind of thing a lot.

You must be watching different footage from what I'm watching.

QPR lost to Derby 2-0 but they're still in sixth place which I'm given to understand is a "play-off" position or something when it comes to potential promotion at the end of the season. I have to admit it kind of defeats the purpose of supporting a perennially under-achieving team when they suddenly become the wealthiest club in England or some such.

Oh and Australia lost to Scotland in the Rugby. To Scotland. And they lost to themselves, really. Hey, Quade Cooper, how do you bomb a certain try when you've got a 3-on-2 overlap? Oh that's right, you throw a stupid long cut-out pass that goes forward and actually makes the winger's job harder instead of just passing to your outside centre, letting him draw the opposite winger and then pass to his winger who would've been unmarked on his outside.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Jace on 25 Nov 2009, 18:26
AHHHH C'MON FUCKIN BUFFALO WHY CANT YOU WIN A GODDAMN GAME?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Nov 2009, 21:27
Because they are Buffalo.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 26 Nov 2009, 02:44
It seems an oddly simple answer, really.
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Post by: scarred on 26 Nov 2009, 02:51
I mean, this is the franchise that went to the Super Bowl four times in a row and lost each one.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Jace on 26 Nov 2009, 03:35
Talkin about hockey. Sorry for the confusion. The Sabres are the only good thing to come out of Buffalo and they are sucking when I watch them.
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Post by: Christophe on 26 Nov 2009, 03:37
Then what is it that you should stop doing
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 26 Nov 2009, 04:00
Talkin about hockey. Sorry for the confusion.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UhK6Ss-YgAI/Rcm9s1xXMcI/AAAAAAAAAEg/suzlZGA1scQ/s400/al-hakim-shaking-fist.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 26 Nov 2009, 06:10
You must be watching different footage from what I'm watching.

In the first second or two he gets the ball trapped under his feet, swivels his head and luckily finds where it is. In that situation it often tends to confuse not only the player with the ball but also the defenders so I presume that is why they all rushed out at him. From this he is able to get through them and he then finishes the move very well.

There's obviously been a lot of uncertainty regarding the owners and that has filtered down into the staff. A couple of great players went out of the door and the ones that came in haven't filled the void. Half the first team is out injured right now and there clearly isn't enough money on the horizon to bring in suitable replacements. I feel sorry for Benitez right now, he's playing against a marked deck.

I would love to place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the owners (and some of it they definitely deserve) but Benitez as a manager is incredibly defensive even with a full-strength squad. Last season we drew 11 games, at least 8 of which we should have won (Stoke and Hull to name a couple) and even lost a couple we shouldn't have. At the same time we had the best results against teams in the top 4 and still finished 4 points behind eventual winners Manchester United.

This season we have already lost 5 games, more than double the amount we lost in the whole of last season, although we have beaten Manchester United again. The blame also has to be shouldered by some of the players but so far this season Benayoun has turned into the player he was at West Ham, Insua has become the first-choice left back although only 20 and done a great job and Gerrard and Torres have played brilliantly although injured. The players I would lay some blame on are Lucas, who is just not good enough, Mascherano, who for some reason doesn't seem to want to be there and Carragher, who seems to have completely lost his touch though isn't helped by being played at right back when his complete lack of pace suggests to a sensible manager that he cannot be played there.

In the season we won the Champion's League (2004-05) we finished 5th in the league, an effort most fans would deem unacceptable even with winning the European competition and almost couldn't enter to defend the trophy. That year we lost 14 games and finished behind city rivals Everton which made it even worse but we had a squad that was much worse then. With the addition of Torres the idea was to mount a real challenge for the title, something that can only be done if you play attacking football to try to win as many games as possible. This is Benitez' fault; that we do not attack lesser teams in order to win comfortably and this is why we are again out of the title race before Christmas.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 26 Nov 2009, 10:20
Lucas and Mascherano are players who I don't expect to see in side ostensibly competing for the title. Also, the striker situation continues to be weird. Keane was never going to work in the context of how Liverpool play under Benitez but they should have idenitified a more experienced striker to hold up the ball and offer an alternative to Torres, who is easily the best forward in the world but struggles near enough constantly with injury. Ironically any one of three former Liverpool players would have been useful acquisitions pre-season - Owen, Heskey or Crouch. This would also have appeased the fans who continue to be somewhat frosty towards Benitez, especially after the mishandling of the Keane situation.

Glen Johnson is another problem. He's a great player on his day but he's spent his entire career at Anfield thus far out of position. Great, he's scored a couple of goals already but that's not actually his main role at the club. I'd argue that him being forward so often is stretching an already brittle defence. The other three defenders (they seem to change nearly every other game right now) have to shift to accomodate him when he's moving up the pitch. The old idiom of a chain being as strong as its weakest link holds true at this level. In fact, he's also been responsible for England conceding a couple this year too. When he was at Pompey under Redknapp this wouldn't have been accepted. Harry would play a reserve team player over an international who can't maintain his position.

It's mostly the injuries though. Half the team has been out for most of the year. It's no coincidence.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 26 Nov 2009, 10:43
Lucas and Mascherano are players who I don't expect to see in side ostensibly competing for the title.

Lucas yes but Mascherano is a player who could be the perfect partner to Gerrard if he wanted to be. A defensive minded midfielder who could prevent attacks from happening before they become problematic but sadly not of the same ilk as Alonso who could also have started a move at the same time. Losing Alonso is a major part of this season's problems.

Also, the striker situation continues to be weird.

This is where I blame Benitez most as he refuses to play 2 strikers as strikers. Either one is out on the wing, in front of the midfielders or who knows where but he never plays 2 strikers on the shoulders of the defence and, as such, the opposition defenders can push forward further.

Glen Johnson is another problem. He's a great player on his day but he's spent his entire career at Anfield thus far out of position. Great, he's scored a couple of goals already but that's not actually his main role at the club. I'd argue that him being forward so often is stretching an already brittle defence.

This I agree with in part. Johnson not being a great defender does cause problems but calling a defence of Agger, Skrtel and Carragher brittle is not really accurate (unless talking about their bones but thats another matter).

It's mostly the injuries though. Half the team has been out for most of the year. It's no coincidence.

The main problem with this argument is that it seems to me that you are saying it is acceptable for bench players to not live up to expectations. At a top 4 club in the Premier League I would argue that any bench player should be able to fit comfortably into any relevant vacant position that needs filling. For example, Babel should be able to fit into the striker's role easily as he cost £11.5 million and was expected to be as good as Torres (we know that this isn't true but slightly beside the point) but he hasn't lived up to those expectations at all and I would blame the players on the bench just as much for not wanting to be as good as the starting 11 as I think that if they did then they would get a chance to play (god knows he rotates the team enough for this to be true).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 26 Nov 2009, 18:00
Whoa... Matt Stafford might be a franchise QB. (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8147c551/Sound-FX-Matthew-Stafford-mic-d-up)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 26 Nov 2009, 20:48
It's kind of insane that the Lions can be so bad that Stafford can throw this many picks and still have people like his play. The craziest part is that I might even be one of those people-- Stafford shows flashes of potential, he really does. The Lions typically have a couple of really good looking plays every game and when the line actually holds up so it's just on him and Calvin Johnson, you can expect some yardage. I don't know if he'll be good or not, but at least he's showing something, which is more than JaMarcus Russell can say. Maybe he only produces against weak teams, but that's better than having nothing to build on at all. That said, the Lions are still the Lions; any points Stafford and co. puts on the board is quickly given up by either the special teams or defensive unit anyway, and the o-line still sucks.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 27 Nov 2009, 00:14
So ... how about them Giants?

It made me smile.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Nov 2009, 00:18
Both of those teams needed that win, especially since the Giants just snapped their 4-game losing streak last week. I'm kind of glad Eli didn't get it though, as much as I hate Neckbeard.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 27 Nov 2009, 00:33
Both Mannings annoy me, for some reason. Must be those endless comercials Peyton had on Nasn a year ago;

"When people stopped calling me Archie's boy and started calling me Peyton, that was a big moment for me."

I hope he never wins another game.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Nov 2009, 00:38
I know a lot of people that hate the Super Manning Bros., oddly enough. I agree that they're funny-looking but Tony Romo and Ben Roethlisberger are both way more douchebaggy.

Although there was this. (http://deadspin.com/5373855/eli-manning-signed-his-work-in-dallas)

And Peyton beat my Bears in the Super Bowl.

y'know what, FUCK THE MANNINGS.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 27 Nov 2009, 00:41
Well, I'm not a big fan of the Cowboys or the Steelers either, so I'm 4-0 in hating douchy QB's.

And that signing thing and spitting thing is just awful and stupid.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 27 Nov 2009, 00:43
It's definitely a far cry from Matt Stafford saying "Solid hit, man" and patting a defensive lineman on the helmet while the guy was on top of him on the turf.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 27 Nov 2009, 00:58
Then again, that might have been the concussion speaking.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 27 Nov 2009, 14:04
It's kind of insane that the Lions can be so bad that Stafford can throw this many picks and still have people like his play. The craziest part is that I might even be one of those people-- Stafford shows flashes of potential, he really does. The Lions typically have a couple of really good looking plays every game and when the line actually holds up so it's just on him and Calvin Johnson, you can expect some yardage. I don't know if he'll be good or not, but at least he's showing something, which is more than JaMarcus Russell can say. Maybe he only produces against weak teams, but that's better than having nothing to build on at all. That said, the Lions are still the Lions; any points Stafford and co. puts on the board is quickly given up by either the special teams or defensive unit anyway, and the o-line still sucks.

Honestly, he's not even playing that badly by rookie standards. If he gets some line support and another couple years to develop, I think he could be the real thing. But yeah, Russell is a complete fucking joke. Between him and Hayward-Bey, I hope Al Davis never dies.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 27 Nov 2009, 16:29
Someone needs to tell Russell that you can't wait for the easy completion every down at the NFL level. The cliche "Take what the defense gives you," isn't exactly a crock of shit, but it definitely needs some qualifiers; sometimes "taking what the defense gives you" means throwing the ball when you only have a 50% chance of making the completion at best. Russell just ends up taking the sack or waiting so long that he gets stuck taking an even worse throw.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Nov 2009, 16:31
Russell's problem, from what I've seen, is that he just hucks the ball every time. I've never seen a QB overthrow receivers as much as Jamarcus Russell does.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 27 Nov 2009, 17:24
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/x/blogger/2664/2061/320/958959/grossmanwk14.jpg)

UNLEASH THE DAGRON (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Nov 2009, 14:57
My all-time favorite footballer, Ryan Giggs, scored his 100th Premier League goal today.

I missed the game because I had to work, and it wasn't on television. Fox Soccer Channel was too busy showing utterly important games like Burnley v. West Ham.

 :cry:
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Post by: Yayniall on 28 Nov 2009, 15:19
I have spent my entire life hating Giggs and I've no plans to stop any time soon.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Nov 2009, 15:25
Unless you're a 10 year old Arsenal fan, I dunno how that's possible.
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Post by: Darke on 28 Nov 2009, 15:32
How can someone hate Ryan Giggs? I'm not a United fan, nor am I Welsh, but Giggs is one of my favourite footballers ever. Absolutely fantastic player, and a total class act to boot. Was great today when he stumbled inside the box then had a joke with the ref when he didn't award another penalty.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 28 Nov 2009, 15:47
I'm a city fan.
I don't need any more clarification.
Fuck Ryan Giggs.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 28 Nov 2009, 15:57
I'm a Liverpool fan.
I don't need any more clarification.
Fuck Ryan Giggs.
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Post by: tommydski on 29 Nov 2009, 01:33
I'm a Leeds fan.
I don't need any more clarification.
Fuck Ryan Giggs.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Nov 2009, 01:35
Fuck Giant Figs
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Post by: tommydski on 29 Nov 2009, 01:37
Okay, he's an absolutely brilliant footballer.

On a lighter note, did anyone see Jimmy Bullard's celebration after netting against Manchester City yesterday? What a class act he is. I can almost forgive him for single handedly keeping Phil 'Cunt' Brown in his job.
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Post by: Inlander on 29 Nov 2009, 05:42
Whatever one thinks of Ryan Giggs, I think everyone can agree that he should never be allowed to take off his shirt ever again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI_LkMj4HI).
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 29 Nov 2009, 08:48
The draw for the FA Cup 3rd round has either Leeds or Kettering going to Old Trafford. I am not entirely sure which possibly sounds better. On one hand Kettering are non-league nonentities, going to the biggest ground in the country. Could be spectacular.

On the other hand, Leeds United at Man United. Damn, that could be good. And when Leeds inevitably lose, it allows them to concentrate on the league, which can only be a good thing.

In other news, this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/nov/27/joy-of-six-great-goals-decade) is a fantastic piece with links to the best goals of the decade.
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Post by: Aurjay on 29 Nov 2009, 08:58
Unless you're a 10 29 year old Arsenal fan, I dunno how that's possible.

Speaking of Gunners. I know you have massive injuries of late but please beat Chelsea. Without RvP, Bendtner and most of your starting back i know its gonna be hard, hell id be happy with a draw even. Just please don't let the Spurs be ahead of you in the standings...ever.  

*edit* ok i guess asking for a tie was a little much but at least a goal would've been nice. yes i know you got robbed by a bad call but hey it happens. Im sure Arsene is going to bitch about it for the next month or so but you've got to move on. Champions League still looks good and the Premiership has a ways to go so no worries.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Nov 2009, 09:37
Whatever one thinks of Ryan Giggs, I think everyone can agree that he should never be allowed to take off his shirt ever again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI_LkMj4HI).

Very true, Harry. Very true.
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Post by: Yayniall on 29 Nov 2009, 09:41
My favourite goal celebration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuhgnKK-3o#t=5m10s)
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Nov 2009, 09:43
Dear Mr. Dski,

Make sure Leeds beat Kettering in the FA Cup, please. Man United drew the winner at Old Trafford and it's been quite a while since we've played you. Would much like to give you crap after we beat Leeds.

Signed,
Me
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Post by: tommydski on 29 Nov 2009, 09:54
On the other hand, Leeds United at Man United. Damn, that could be good. And when Leeds inevitably lose, it allows them to concentrate on the league, which can only be a good thing.

It's never a foregone conclusion when Leeds play Manchester United.

I wouldn't bet against Leeds in such a fixture.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 29 Nov 2009, 10:07
I think it depends a lot on what sort of line-up Man U put out. I coujld see it being tight if he rests some folks, but with a full strength line-up I can't see a league 1 team beating them, however good a league 1 side they are. If you'd been playing at Elland Road it would have given you a better chance, as the atmosphere there could have intimidated some of the younger Man U players.

This is, of course, assuming that you don't lose to Kettering.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Nov 2009, 10:17
However, we're talking about the FA Cup, where "full squad" for Fergie means that Danny Welbeck's starting up front.. :?

Nothing against Welbeck, I absolutely love him, but starting him in a cup semi? Really? That was a game we were destined to lose.

edit: Speaking of United, we're apparently going after a Palermo striker named "Kjaer". Is there a centre-forward named "Sols" anywhere that we could team him up with?
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Post by: Inlander on 29 Nov 2009, 15:51
Maybe, but then you'd have to play them both of the bench 90% of the time.
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Post by: scarred on 29 Nov 2009, 17:44
I think it's a bad sign when the Bears lose 36 to 10 and I come away from the game thinking our offense played OK.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 29 Nov 2009, 17:53
That might be a bad sign, but I'm okay with how my defense played except for the one play where DeSean Jackson had to kill time in the end zone while waiting for the pass.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2009, 06:45
Maybe, but then you'd have to play them both of the bench 90% of the time.

Nevermind, then. We already have one of those, 'cept he's called Berbatov.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Nov 2009, 17:28
I think it's a bad sign when the Bears lose 36 to 10 and I come away from the game thinking our offense played OK.

How do you figure they played okay? I watched the came and I was thinking ... well, 'something else' might sum it up.
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Post by: scarred on 30 Nov 2009, 22:15
Jay Cutler only threw one real INT.

That's a good game in my book.


(Ron Turner: stop running up the middle every farking play, I'm going to kill you)
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Post by: Alex C on 30 Nov 2009, 23:56
Uh, actually, the official NFL stats credits him with 2 interceptions and taking 4 sacks. He was pretty damn accurate though, for the most part; it's hard to say much more then that about his performance with that playcalling. I honestly thought it seemed even worse on defense. It's nice that they managed to keep Peterson looking mortal for the day by stacking the box like that, but honestly, who gives a shit when your cute li'l soft zone D lets the QB throw for a hojillion yards. I don't really care how good your opponent is; 24 points in a quarter shouldn't happen, ever.
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Post by: scarred on 01 Dec 2009, 00:06
Jay Cutler only threw one real INT.

There's a difference between looking at numbers and actually watching the game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u19sWftlFg)
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Dec 2009, 01:47
The implication here is that it still counts.

And seriously, if you don't think there's anything wrong with where he decided to go with it, I don't know what to tell you.
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Post by: scarred on 01 Dec 2009, 02:14
The pass was good, the route decent, and linebacker made a nice jump on the ball. In any other game it would've been an incomplete pass, but Cutler is having terrible luck this season and it bounced off someone's helmet and got intercepted. Much like how against Green Bay Week 1, he tried to throw it away at his feet and a defensive lineman falling on the ground managed to catch it. Not smart throws, but not definitively stupid ones either.

And sure, they still count statistically, but what I was trying to convey was the fact that his percentage of fault in this situation is minimal. Hence the "real" part of the statement I repeated.

Anyway, arguing gets us nowhere. How about the Saints? They knocked off the Pats with relative ease, making them 11 - 0 with a schedule that doesn't offer any more real opponents for the rest of the regular season:

Dec 06        @ WASHINGTON REDSKINS   
Dec 13        @ ATLANTA FALCONS   
Dec 19        vs. DALLAS COWBOYS   
Dec 27        vs. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS   
Jan 03        @ CAROLINA PANTHERS

With Matt Ryan out next week (probably questionable for the 13th) and Tony Romo's track record in December, I think they've got a real shot to go the distance.

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Post by: Darke on 01 Dec 2009, 03:51
The Saints scare me. Teams shouldn't be able to just breeze past the Patriots like that.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Dec 2009, 06:52
It was pretty frightening. I don't see anyone beating them, now.
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Post by: Yayniall on 01 Dec 2009, 07:04
The Saints scare me. Teams shouldn't be able to just brees past the Patriots like that.

FYP

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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 01 Dec 2009, 07:14
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 01 Dec 2009, 10:26
Dec 06        @ WASHINGTON REDSKINS   

This will be their first loss of the season.  Mark my words.


Actually, this will be the first game of the season during which I will cry.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Dec 2009, 21:58
The Saints scare me. Teams shouldn't be able to just breeze past the Patriots like that.

The Saints make me sad. This isn't a good year for the Vikes to peak.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 08:40
The Saints scare me. Teams shouldn't be able to just bree bree bree bree past the Patriots like that.
FYP

Crunk Pig'd Yr Post

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Post by: the_pied_piper on 02 Dec 2009, 15:43
Mayweather - Pacquaio bout all but confirmed (http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-floydpac120109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).

Yes, boxing fans, it hasn't taken long but it was really the only meaningful fight left for either pugilist before retirement and it should be a great one.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 02 Dec 2009, 16:43
I dunno, I still have a hard time getting into boxing. Either it's a blood bath, which is kinda hard to watch, or one guy gets on his bike and it drags on for a while. I would have to imagine this one could turn into the latter; Mayweather tends to do that anyway and why shouldn't he? He often has a reach advantage against guys his own height or taller, and Manny is neither.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Dec 2009, 08:55
I can completely understand why some people can't get into boxing but when these big fights happen it is supposed to fall into a tactical style whereby each boxer is as good as the other and you get a great fight.

Examples: Thrilla in Manila (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_y7FiCryb8)
An older bout which had the 15 round limit and is widely regarded as the greatest fight of all time, lasting 14 of the 15 rounds until Muhammad Ali finally comes out on top.

Sugar Ray Leonard vs Thomas Hearns (1st meeting) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUn60FzzoxY&feature=PlayList&p=DACDE75A0AC2D45C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=50)
Another great bout whereby Leonard was behind on points going into the 13th round of 15 but found a second wind and ended up stopping the fight in the 14th.

There are a lot of matches where the result is completely uneven although it shouldn't be, the recent Pacquaio - Cotto one a definite example, but you can't always set things up so that everything goes perfectly and sometimes fights just don't live up to expectation.
I would say though that somebody fleeing punches if they are receiving regular barrages is a good tactic (not that you were saying otherwise) but while it conserves energy for a possible comeback for the boxer it does make the bout less interesting for a while for the crowd and viewers.

Just to note: the newest generation of boxing fans (you, me, anybody younger than us) has not had the opportunity to watch a great fight yet. The most recent bout that is considered within the top 100 of all time [by Ring Magazine] is a bout from 1995 although it is possible that the Pacquiao - Cotto match might be entered in there just for the dominance that was unexpected by a lot of people.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Dec 2009, 09:00
D-Double P-Post

On a different topic today is the day of the FIFA World Cup Draw for South Africa 2010. Starts at around 5:30pm GMT and likely there is coverage of it on a TV channel near you.

List of countries who have qualified:

Pot Four: France, Portugal, Slovenia, Switzerland, Greece, Serbia, Denmark, Slovakia.
Pot Three: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria, Algeria, Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay.
Pot Two: Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Australia, New Zealand, United States, Mexico, Honduras.
Pot One: South Africa, Brazil, Spain, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Argentina, England.

For British viewers (or anybody who can get BBC) there is live video a text coverage on the BBC Sport website here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8391833.stm).
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Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 10:34
Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

Group B: Argentina, Nigeria, South Korea, Greece

Group C: ENGLAND, United States, Algeria, Slovenia

Group D: Germany, Australia, Serbia, Ghana

Group E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon

Group F: Italy, Paraguay, New Zealand, Slovakia

Group G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portugal

Group H: Spain, Switzerland, Honduras, Chile
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Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 10:38
ENGLAND Vs. USA on my 26th birthday!
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 04 Dec 2009, 10:47
Yeah I am pretty pleased at how the U.S. drew.  I mean England will be a tough match, but Algeria and Slovenia are really nothing to worry about so our chances of advancing are pretty dang good.

Man Group G is pretty nasty though huh (Also Group D)
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 04 Dec 2009, 10:51
Ivory Coast have now been drawn in the hardest group two world cups in a row after getting Argentina and Netherlands last time around. Some real rough luck right there.

I think Italy will now be a reasonable bet to win the whole tournament. They are in an easy group, and then face the runner up in group H which is just as poor. That get's them to the quarter finals pretty easily, and Italy are well-known for being slow starters but very good once they get going. So them or Spain for me I reckon.

Considering this tournament is stil 7 months away I am far too excited.
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Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 10:56
Spain, Brazil and Holland are the obvious favourites for me. I think this time around I fancy Spain. They seem unbeatable.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Dec 2009, 11:00
I think the only team that is going to win it (bar lots of injuries) is Spain. They just look far too good for anyone else.

Don't discount Germany to make a fight of it though. It seems that every team that suffers an adversity seems to make a good run of it, e.g. Italy almost not being allowed to play last time (in my opinion they shouldn't have played) and with the tragic passing of Robert Enke they will be fighting even harder to progress as far as possible.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 04 Dec 2009, 11:04
I think that the Netherlands will play some astonishing football until they reach the quarter finals and implode, as they are prone to doing. I hope the Spaniards win it as it means that there are more games to watch them play well.

I haven't seen Brazil play since the last world cup I don't think, so I can't really comment. Always up there with the favourites though.

Germany have a very tough group, facing both Ghana and Serbia. They could quite conceivably finish second and end up facing England in the next round. That would be a fantastic match, but a difficult one to win.
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Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 11:07
I fancy Germany over most teams in the contest, including France, Italy, England and Portugal. Not sure about their chances against Spain, Brazil or Holland though.
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 04 Dec 2009, 11:13
I had no idea North Korea had a football team.

And that they were any good.

Go them I guess?
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Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 11:21
They are currently ranked 91st in the FIFA World Rankings (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=186).
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 04 Dec 2009, 12:13
I had no idea North Korea had a football team.

Well there is generally a team for all countries
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 04 Dec 2009, 16:02
I want Australia to win. That'd be funny.
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Post by: Inlander on 04 Dec 2009, 19:21
That's a pretty good draw for Australia. They should be able to make it through to the second round. It's certainly a lot better than being lumped in with Croatia, Japan, and Brazil, like they were last time around.

There seems to be plenty of scope for England to underperform in their group, too. I mean I hope not, England's my second team (first in previous World Cups, when Australia wasn't involved), but really. Let's not get our hopes up. They're sharing their group with teams they could easily underestimate and take it easy against and end up getting surprised by.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Dec 2009, 20:03
This is true but that seems to be the England of old. Sure I don't think they're going to win it but ,under the tutelage of Capello, England have become a real force, scoring goals for fun and almost coming through with a perfect record. I don't really see any of those teams causing a problem and it is likely that the USA will progress aswell.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Dec 2009, 07:36
We got this shit. And we can beat Spain.

Hell, we did it earlier this year!

*cough*USA! USA! USA!*cough*
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Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2009, 08:02
USA also came agonisingly close to beating Brazil. They were two goals up at half-time and it suddenly crumbled in the second half.

However, if England have anything like their first team out then I expect to be celebrating three points on my birthday.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Dec 2009, 08:15
Don't remind me, that game was absolutely crushing to watch.

Oh well. I suppose it's what happens when you're becoming a great soccer nation, though. You're gonna have those tough losses in big games.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 05 Dec 2009, 10:00
I actually loved that game, as I had money on USA being up at half time and Brazil coming back to win. I can't imagine it would have been as enjoyable as an American.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Dec 2009, 10:04
I'd imagine it's just about how Bayern fans felt during the 99 Champions League final.

On the other hand, I loved that game.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 06 Dec 2009, 14:13
GODDAMNIT!  We should not have lost that game.  Shaun Suisham screwed us so hard by missing that 23 yard kick.  Also, there were a couple of bad reviews from the booth about down by contact.  And the end of the half was crazy lucky for them.
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Post by: WestEnder67 on 06 Dec 2009, 14:18
No offence to the Americans, but England should be able to walk that group. An absolute scoosh compared to what they could have had (i.e. Germany's group). I still want the US to do a repeat of 1950 though.  :-)

Plus the Pats lost late again...  :-(

At least Celtic won. Still top of the league... :-D
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Post by: scarred on 06 Dec 2009, 14:42
GODDAMNIT!  We should not have lost that game.  Shaun Suisham screwed us so hard by missing that 23 yard kick.  Also, there were a couple of bad reviews from the booth about down by contact.  And the end of the half was crazy lucky for them.

Yeh, that missed FG did you guys in, big time. Good lord, was that game entertaining though.

Also, Pats lost to Miami, Pitt lost to Oakland, and the Bears didn't choke on the Rams (although there were a couple bogus play calls anyway - the botched fake FG was atrocious). This weekend is a success so far.

Now it's down to Minnesota V. Cardinals.

(Vikes are gonna blow 'em out of the water.)
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Dec 2009, 15:10
God, I hope the Packers don't grab a wildcard spot. Beating them for a third time would be delicious, but I don't even want to think about how the media would promote the matchup. And good god, the commentating...

Plus, you know, a chance injury here and there over the next couple of weeks and it's not inconceivable that the Vikings could you know, lose such a game. That possibility isn't really something I'm prepared to talk about rationally.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Dec 2009, 15:15
Vikings fans have been so brutally stampeded since, well, the franchise's inception, that I have to root for the Vikes on principle, just because I hate to see so many people get their hearts broken so many times.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Dec 2009, 17:21
Yeah, I'm pretty much incapable of being completely confident in the Vikings for any appreciable length of time because of that. I just can't do it. I'm not particularly bitter or malicious about it nor am I one of those guys who regularly shits on the team whenever they lose a game. You won't hear me bitch about "the same ol' Vikings," after a tough loss like that one against Pittsburgh, for example. Shit can go wrong when you go up against the defending champs on their own field. It doesn't mean we have a bad team.

But that said, I remember the '98 and '00 NFC Championship games rather well, thank you very much. It is not lost on me that the Vikings are peaking in a season in which two teams are sitting on 12-0 records. I mean, shit, I couldn't even properly post that picture of Jared Allen posing with a bear carcass without hedging my bets as to how the game would turn out, and the Bears aren't exactly tearing it up this year. So, yeah, my guard is up; I've been here before and it didn't turn out so hot.
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Post by: Darke on 06 Dec 2009, 17:59
At least Celtic won. Still top of the league... :-D

Hail hail.  :-D Hopefully we can keep it up, 'specially since we can now focus solely on domestic football.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Dec 2009, 20:38
(Vikes are gonna blow 'em out of the water.)

Clearly I know nothing about football.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 06 Dec 2009, 21:13
It's alright man there were a few "unexpecteds" this week (yeah what the fuck Patriots and Steelers)
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Post by: Reed on 06 Dec 2009, 22:01
Fucking Seahawks.
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Post by: Darke on 07 Dec 2009, 07:39
The Steelers are so hilarious this year. Way to forget how to be a good team.
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Post by: Alex C on 07 Dec 2009, 08:51
(Vikes are gonna blow 'em out of the water.)

Clearly I know nothing about football.

I was a bit worried about this game, but didn't expect it to go down that badly either. I guess this just shows how hard it is to evaluate a team when they have a schedule as easy as that of the Vikings. I'm pretty sure their opponents had a combined win total under 40 going into last week, which is pretty sad.
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Post by: McTaggart on 07 Dec 2009, 09:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgYrYaLDs9o

I was watching the cricket on tv yesterday afternoon and saw this. At that moment I felt proud to be an Australian.
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Post by: Aurjay on 07 Dec 2009, 20:38
Clearly im a little late for the WC draw discussion but to chime i think USA did ok with their group. Like to see them come out on top of England in the 1st game.  I also was kinda astonished N. Korea had a team and were any good(what, no S. Korea?). I agree with the Italy prediction but guess we will have to see.  Also in also late American Football news. Did anyone see this play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf_LvK9ADRM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf_LvK9ADRM) laugh every time i see it. Also please Tebow stop crying you got your ass handed to you suck it up like a man and play on. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 06:23
South Korea are in the World Cup. They were put into group B.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 Dec 2009, 06:46
I also was kinda astonished N. Korea had a team and were any good

They're not any good. The WC qualification isn't the best teams in the world, it's the best teams from each qualifying group. North Korea's qualifying group just isn't very good. They are scarcely in the best one hundred teams in the world.
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Post by: Inlander on 08 Dec 2009, 06:52
Yeah Asia has teams like Bahrain and Qatar in it. In fact most of the teams in Asia are like Bahrain and Qatar. Off the top of my head the only teams in Asia that could conceivably worry other major nations around the world on a regular basis are Japan, South Korea, Australia, and maybe China one day - and none of them are among the best teams in the world by any sensible reckoning. By way of comparison, try naming off the top of your head the genuinely dangerous and talented national teams in Europe, South America, and Africa. You're going to have many more than three or four such teams in each of those continents.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 06:53
Iran and Iraq pop up and play spectacular football on occasion (didn't Iraq win Olympic gold last year?), but never seem to be consistently good.
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Post by: Inlander on 08 Dec 2009, 06:55
Oh yeah, I forgot about them. I wouldn't count Iraq (sure they won the Asian Cup - but Greece won the European Cup not so long ago) but Iran are definitely a regional powerhouse. Saudi Arabia now and then, too. But if you consider that Iran is one of the more consistently succesful teams in Asia - well, let's just say they're no Brazil or Argentina or Italy or Germany.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 08 Dec 2009, 07:00
Iran and Iraq pop up and play spectacular football on occasion (didn't Iraq win Olympic gold last year?), but never seem to be consistently good.

Nah, Argentina have won Olympic Gold the last 2 times. Iran are consistently one of the best footballing countries in Asia though, this will be their 5th time at the World Cup, 4th consecutive.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 07:07
I kinda wish FIFA had made it so we'd been drawn into a group with North Korea and Iran.

Then again, Bush isn't in office anymore, so it'd kinda just be another football match.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 Dec 2009, 11:58
UK folks - Leeds Vs Kettering replay here (http://www.itv.com/sport/football/facup/livevideo/default.html).

It's at Elland Road so it might be a massacre. The winner of this game plays Scum at Scumland.
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Post by: a pack of wolves on 08 Dec 2009, 14:47
Fuck me that was tense, I was starting to think penalties would be deciding things and then Mike Grella turned up. Thank fuck for that.

Next up the scum.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 Dec 2009, 14:54
I like Mike Grella. He did well in the first leg. He's scored some good goals this season. I think the Yanks should take him to South Africa next year.

It was harsh on Lee Harper because his team played so well over two legs. He played like a superhuman in both games and the revenue from a match at Old Trafford would have bankrolled the club for a season.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 Dec 2009, 15:06
Here is Grella's second goal for the Yanks who won't see it otherwise -

(http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/gif/a095b62ba601cdf2e9b5ff3d0e9c8069_grella.gif)
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Post by: Yayniall on 08 Dec 2009, 15:09
City goals from this weekend. (http://videos.sapo.pt/IjNZwUp5ETDpoORbdQMb)
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Post by: Inlander on 08 Dec 2009, 15:11
Here is Grella's second goal for the Yanks who won't see it otherwise -

That Leeds player on the far right of the screen seems kind of distraught after the goal is scored. I see he stuck up his hand for a cross at the beginning of the play - maybe he wishes he'd scored the goal? Maybe he'd promised his mum he'd scroe a goal? Maybe he was hoping to impress a girl after the game with tales of his footballing heroics?
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 08 Dec 2009, 15:18
That Leeds player on the far right of the screen seems kind of distraught after the goal is scored.

I noticed this too. What you don't see is that part of the move beforehand was simply Beckford (with his hand up) beating 3 players and having his shot saved so maybe he was hoping that Grella would give him the chance to right his wrong. Fantastic tricks and finish by Grella though, he did come on and completely change the game just when Leeds needed it.

Also, Beckford did score but was at least a yard offside when doing so although it would have made no difference to the game if it was disallowed as it was the last goal.
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Post by: Inlander on 08 Dec 2009, 15:24
Actually holy shit both the players on the right look less than pleased with the goal. There's the guy on the far right who puts his hands on his head and the other guy below him on the screen who kind of rolls his head like he's rolling his eyes and then starts walking away. Maybe Grella's an insufferable bragger in the dressing-rooms and the other player is imagining it in his head. Or maybe he just doesn't like Americans.
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Post by: a pack of wolves on 08 Dec 2009, 15:34
I like Mike Grella. He did well in the first leg. He's scored some good goals this season. I think the Yanks should take him to South Africa next year.

It was harsh on Lee Harper because his team played so well over two legs. He played like a superhuman in both games and the revenue from a match at Old Trafford would have bankrolled the club for a season.

Indeed, Harper fully deserved man of the match and I know if I'd been a neutral I would've been rooting for them. As it is though, I'm more than happy to see us going to Old Trafford.

And agreed on Grella. His second goal was lovely.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 Dec 2009, 15:39
Beckford (at the edge of the box) had a bit of a stinker and he'd literally just humiliated himself by tripping over his own feet in front of goal. Grella then scored his second of the game using Beckford's trademark step-over the ball and tuck it into the far corner trick. I think he was very frustrated tonight and he hadn't scored for a few games. It's true he should have gone to congratulate his team-mate, that was inexcusable.

Kandol (at the far post) hadn't scored and had been on the pitch longer than Grella. The American is his number one competition in the Leeds squad. Both are vying for third choice striker in a team which is currently overrun with aggressive forwards. I think his immediate reaction was that he'd just moved one step away from the first team with Grella's second goal. He did go over to congratulate him afterwards though.

Both of them scored within the next three minutes but still, they can be a pair of moody bastards.
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Post by: WestEnder67 on 13 Dec 2009, 15:00
At least Celtic won. Still top of the league... :-D

Hail hail.  :-D Hopefully we can keep it up, 'specially since we can now focus solely on domestic football.
Nearly made an arse of it again yesterday though...  :|
Luckily Fortuné came and pulled it out the bag.  :-)
Just hoping that Dundee Utd can get a result against 'The Others' :wink: in midweek as a nice wee sweetner to our lead at the top.

P.S. - N.E. won against Carolina. Woo! :lol:
P.P.S. - Anyone see Rodallega's goal for Wigan against Stoke yesterday?  :-o
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Post by: scarred on 13 Dec 2009, 15:09
Another Bears loss that I don't feel so bad about. Cutler needs an offseason with his receivers. And we need to lose Ron Turner. Bad.
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Post by: Darke on 13 Dec 2009, 15:10
P.P.S. - Anyone see Rodallega's goal for Wigan against Stoke yesterday?  :-o
Rodalegga didn't score yesterday. Are you maybe thinking of Figueroa, who scored this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaMpc-uFPp0) totally ridiculous free kick?
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Post by: WestEnder67 on 13 Dec 2009, 19:56
P.P.S. - Anyone see Rodallega's goal for Wigan against Stoke yesterday?  :-o
Rodalegga didn't score yesterday. Are you maybe thinking of Figueroa, who scored this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaMpc-uFPp0) totally ridiculous free kick?
That is the one, yes.

Don't know why I thought it was Rodallega...  :? :oops:

Cracking goal nonetheless...  :-D
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Dec 2009, 07:39
Here is Grella's second goal for the Yanks who won't see it otherwise -

Ronaldo-esque.
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Post by: tommydski on 14 Dec 2009, 11:03
Who?
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Dec 2009, 11:07
Actually, I'm wrong. Ronaldo would have done those nifty stepovers and then fell on his face instead of scoring.
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Post by: Yayniall on 14 Dec 2009, 11:54
P.P.S. - Anyone see Rodallega's goal for Wigan against Stoke yesterday?  :-o
Rodalegga didn't score yesterday. Are you maybe thinking of Figueroa, who scored this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaMpc-uFPp0) totally ridiculous free kick?
That is the one, yes.

Don't know why I thought it was Rodallega...  :? :oops:

Cracking goal nonetheless...  :-D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rotherham_utd/8412091.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rotherham_utd/8412091.stm)
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Post by: RallyMonkey on 14 Dec 2009, 13:18
I don't have much to add to this topic, as I don't watch football/soccer, but I did see the movie The Damned United, about Brian Clouth, the other night. And I thought it was quite good, and that anyone interested in football might find the movie fairly good as well.
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Post by: tommydski on 14 Dec 2009, 16:01
Read the book, the film is terrible.
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Post by: RallyMonkey on 14 Dec 2009, 19:06
It definitely had it's flaws. But I thought that Michael Sheen and the cinematography made it worth seeing. Of course, I knew nothing about the story nor football in genre before seeing the film.
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Post by: Reed on 15 Dec 2009, 09:00
Woooooo, the Niners beat the Cards!
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Dec 2009, 09:04
Wooo, Jeremy Hermidia Ramon A. Ramirez Boof Bonser Mike Cameron Marco Scutaro Max Ramirez Scott Atchison Tug Hulett John Lackey!
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 15 Dec 2009, 17:36
Just found this thread here.

Good to see another Leeds fan!

Did you go to the Kettering replay Ptommydski?
I was sat just where Grella came to celebrate.
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Post by: tommydski on 15 Dec 2009, 17:46
Alas, I live in Aberdeen so I don't get to see as many games as I once did. I saw it on television though, it was a frustrating game.

Massive game on Saturday. Make or break time for our title hopes.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 16 Dec 2009, 05:12
Woooooo, the Niners beat the Cards!
Didn't see that one coming at all.
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 16 Dec 2009, 07:48
Alas, I live in Aberdeen so I don't get to see as many games as I once did. I saw it on television though, it was a frustrating game.

Massive game on Saturday. Make or break time for our title hopes.

You reckon?

I'm not so sure.
We're on a bit of a wobbly patch (always happens round christmas), and Southampton are in form. I'm expecting us to drop points, but even if we do, we have a game in hand.

Charlton will slip up and Norwich wont catch up.
To be honest I'm not bothered about winning it, so long as we go up!
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Post by: tommydski on 16 Dec 2009, 08:36
I think we have to bank on losing to teams like Southampton, Norwich, Huddersfield and Charlton away from home but I'd expect a side competing for automatic promotion to take at least a point from each team at home. That's fine as long as we keep getting results against the rest of the table, especially away from home. However, that's in itself quite a challenge. We're in the position we're in currently by simply not losing games (aside from that solitary trip to Millwall, which was unlucky) and we need to keep that up. I still feel like Charlton are the natural Champions this year, having already been through their run of bad form and Norwich are unquestionably capable of winning every game for the rest of the season if their momentum continues. However, the transfer window is crucial to both teams. If they are facing financial problems as some reports suggest, they might have to unload a couple of their best players to make ends meet. To Charlton this might not be such a problem but Norwich are essentially Holt & Hoolahan FC. If they lose one or both of those two, their hopes of automatic promotion are dust. We could stand to lose any two of our players and it wouldn't particularly matter.

I'm worried about moral more than anything at this point. A bad result at home to Saints and it's inevitably going to be seen as a dangerous run of poor form, which isn't likely to be improved by the looming presence of an away game at Old Trafford in the near future. Especially given the fixtures we have coming up. I'm not overly bothered about being Champions this year but now we're up here it seems like we could do it given a bit of resilience. With the transfer window beckoning and considering we haven't actually spent any money this year (aside from the wages and a trivial sum for Bromby) one could be forgiven for hoping Uncle Ken will allow Larry a little bit of spending money to finish the job. Especially since we probably got somewhere between four and six million for Fabian Delph pre-season.
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 16 Dec 2009, 14:09
I know what you mean about losing to Sotuhampton.

They are essentially a play off team, and as you say the only team we've lost to is Millwall. The Den's always a tough place to go to.

I'm so pessimistic when it comes to Leeds, thanks to the last 5/6 years. But I genuinely think we're on the up now.
What am I talking about? Of course we're gonna beat Southampton! haha!

You on Waccoe?
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Post by: tommydski on 16 Dec 2009, 14:22
I read but I don't post. It's a pretty insane forum. Not very welcoming considering everyone is basically there for the same reason. Too much needless chest-beating and all that "you can't be a Leeds fan if you don't go to every game" attitude. We can't all live next to Elland Road as much as I'm sure we'd all like to. I get down when I can and that's all I can do. If that makes me a part-timer, I can't be arsed arguing.

I was born in Leeds, I attended my first game when I was five months old. Everyone in my family was born in Leeds and supports them. I've been to hundreds of Leeds games all around the country and in Europe. I can name every team since 1984 and I have every home shirt since the same year. I've been to Wembley with Leeds five times. I was at the game in Bournemouth that promoted us to the First Division and I was one of the first people (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/1524778325_13c7f07c4a.jpg) on that pitch before the Police dispersed us with tear gas canisters. I was at Elland Road when we won the title the following year too. My week is literally made or destroyed by what happens to Leeds United. It's a big deal to me but it's hard to argue with someone lucky enough to have a season ticket.
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 16 Dec 2009, 15:26
That's impressive.
I'm from Doncaster myself, so I'm also considered part-time. My Dad brought me up on Leeds from being very young though. Going up to Carlisle play off semi final without a ticket and ending up sitting in their end negates any "part time" argument.

The play off defeat to Doncaster was particularly hard to stomach.

But yeah Waccoe is pretty much a boys club. Good source of information though.
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Post by: scarred on 16 Dec 2009, 21:30
Didn't see that one coming at all.

Neither did the Cardinals, apparently.
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Post by: Alex C on 16 Dec 2009, 22:50
Yeah, they must have been high on their Vikings performance and came in overconfident. Not really a smart move against the 49ers; if you look at their schedule they're right up there with the Falcons when it comes to defensible losses. Probably the best "bad" team in the league.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Dec 2009, 00:00
I did enjoy it a lot, I have to say. For some reason I have decided that Kurt Warner is a dick. Don't know why.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 17 Dec 2009, 00:05
I feel the same way about Billy Slater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Slater). Actually pretty much the entire Melbourne Storm N.R.L. organisation.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 17 Dec 2009, 04:26
QPR appointed Paul Hart as their manager (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/17/paul-hart-manager-qpr-jim-magilton), as I'm sure you've heard by now Harry.

You might not think it now but that's a really good appointment. Hart has been unlucky with his managerial jobs thus far but he's an excellent coach. In the 90s he was the Leeds youth team manager and they won borderline everything. Practically all of that team of young lads is playing in the Premiership now. He's got a good footballing mind and the right mentality. If they give him a decent run (as unlikely as that seems given the track record of the QPR board) he'll have the club in good standing for the future.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 17 Dec 2009, 05:59
Actually I hadn't heard, I follow the results but I don't tend to pay much attention to the comings and goings of managers and players because the names mean nothing to me. The results have been pretty dreadful recently (three losses and a draw from their last four games, and the losses were heavy ones, too) so it's not surprising they've gone and got themselves a new manager, boards being prone to knee-jerk reactions like that. Thanks for the heads up!

In other news, holy shit the Super 14 rugby comp starts in, like, two months. I'm really looking forward to watching the A.C.T. Brumbies run around this season, it looks like they've got a hell of a team! Matt Giteau back home where he belongs, plus some amazing recruiting in the forwards (Stephen Hoiles, Rocky Elsom and George Smith are going to be a phenomenal back row, and Justin Harrison will bring some much needed experience and lineout skill to the team and should be welcomed back with open arms by the home crowd after his dalliance with New South Wales). Can't wait!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Dec 2009, 06:17
Matt Giteau back home where he belongs

You're welcome to the prick
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 17 Dec 2009, 06:24
I can't really blame him for chasing the money over to Western Australia because when you're a professional sports person you've got ten years, fifteen tops, to make as much money as you can before you retire and then you've got another forty, fifty, or sixty years of life to live with chronic joint problems and no skills to speak of other than playing sport; with that in mind I can't blame Giteau for getting pissed off when the money he was promised didn't come through because the Western Force decided to make shady third-party deals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firepower_International#Western_Force) (that they weren't supposed to be entering into under A.R.U. guidelines) with a snake-oil salesman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firepower_International#Demise).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Dec 2009, 06:59
Going up to Carlisle play off semi final without a ticket and ending up sitting in their end negates any "part time" argument.

Are you guys trying to have a Leeds pissing contest or something?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 17 Dec 2009, 07:31
American Footbal News (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4750615)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 17 Dec 2009, 09:46
I'm actually gutted at Chris Henry's death, he was finally getting his career and life back on track and then poof.
=(
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Kill.kenada on 17 Dec 2009, 10:32
Going up to Carlisle play off semi final without a ticket and ending up sitting in their end negates any "part time" argument.

Are you guys trying to have a Leeds pissing contest or something?

Not particularly.
I'm not old enough to have been to the games the other guy had, just wanted to show I was a serious fan.

A lot of Leeds fans these days are stay away - armchair fans.

Sorry like.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 17 Dec 2009, 10:33
He's a scum fan, don't pay any attention to him.  :wink:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Kill.kenada on 17 Dec 2009, 10:35
Ahh, now it makes sense.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: a pack of wolves on 17 Dec 2009, 18:50
A lot of Leeds fans these days are stay away - armchair fans.

Like me! Though football only started to pique my interest a few years ago and I didn't start following with any attention until this season, so I think I can be forgiven for still being at the armchair stage.

I really hope we don't lose this weekend though, partly just for selfish reasons since I'm currently staying with a Southampton fan. His grin would not be pleasant.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Kill.kenada on 18 Dec 2009, 03:59
Aye, must admit, Yeovil on a cold, windy Tuesday evening isn't the most pleasant experience.

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2009, 06:46
Ahh, now it makes sense.

Once again, thank you for Eric Cantona.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Kill.kenada on 19 Dec 2009, 06:43
Aye Cheers for Gordon Strachan.

I'm a bit confused though, why do you have a Bradford city related name?

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 07:14
It's the name of my old harshnoise project.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 19 Dec 2009, 09:52
Leeds beat Southampton 1-0 to go four points clear again at the top of the league with a game in hand over second place Charlton.

Fulham kicked the ever-loving shit out of scum at Craven Cottage. Don't miss 'Match of the Day' tonight, it sounds like it was a blinder of a game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 09:54
Don't remind me. I'm really starting to think Fergie's losing it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 19 Dec 2009, 10:05
What he lost was the ability to purchase any player he saw fit and without that he is essentially hopeless.

Fulham manager Roy Hodgson, there's a fucking good manager. How much has he had to spend compared to Ferguson?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 10:19
Apparently the Wild's equipment van went up in flames (http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/79697757.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUBP7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr) last night after a practice in Ottawa. They're somehow playing tonight's game against the Senators, but I can't imagine it'll go all that well. Niklas Backstrom's gear was completely destroyed, and well..lets just say goalies are REALLY superstitious about their gear.

This probably isn't a good sign for the rest of his season:

(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/209669/goalie_mask_large.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Darke on 19 Dec 2009, 20:45
God damn it, Dallas.

Once that field goal rattled off the upright I was sure the Saints were going to make the comeback. It was all so perfect. :(
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 19 Dec 2009, 23:48
God damn it, Dallas.

I say this every day.  They continue to not fall in a well and die.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 20 Dec 2009, 00:47
An interesting wrinkle here is that if the Saints lose another game the Vikings could still end up with the number one seed due to the conference record tiebreaker. I haven't really set my hopes on it, however, since the Saints don't have anyone tough left on their schedule whereas the Vikings-Giants game may very well determine whether NY makes the playoffs or not. Home field sure would be nice though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 20 Dec 2009, 18:24
You guys have no idea how happy that Steelers-Packers game made me. I wanted the Packers to lose, of course, but I also have Rodgers and Jennings on my fantasy team and it happens to be fantasy playoffs time. Last second Packers loss AND the Rodgers-Jenning hookup netted me 54 points. It's like an early Christmas!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Dec 2009, 20:50
I was down by 5 points with DW and Fred Davis to play.
DW got one, need Fred to pick up the rest.
It's so tense.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Dec 2009, 20:52
Don't worry, man.  Jason Campbell is loving him some Fred Davis.  Plus the Giants' secondary has kind of fallen apart.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 20 Dec 2009, 21:58
man, everybody lost this weekend. Bears (no surprise, but I was hoping they'd, you know, put up a fight), hometown Hawks (uggghhhhh), Vikings... just embarrassing. Nobody showed up to play.

Except for the Cowboys. lolwot?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 20 Dec 2009, 23:11
What the fuck, niners? You actually had a good chance against the Eagles. Instead you have 659999 fucking turnovers and blow the god damn game!!!!!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 22 Dec 2009, 01:37
man, everybody lost this weekend. Bears (no surprise, but I was hoping they'd, you know, put up a fight), hometown Hawks (uggghhhhh), Vikings... just embarrassing. Nobody showed up to play.

Except for the Cowboys. lolwot?

Well, now ... Chargers won. Pats won. Falcons won. Ravens won. Eagles won.

Basically, a lot of the teams I sort of like won.

And yeah, Vikings were bad. 
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Dec 2009, 06:10
Yeah but the Chargers always lose in the playoffs sooo... no big. Falcons.. meh.

But man the Eagles. Always a late surprise. They're so "meh" through the middle of the reg. season and then Andy Reid is like "oh yeah coaching" and does that till they reach the playoffs. Then he gives up again.

lol Eagles
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Dec 2009, 06:47
What was up with Washington faking a field goal and dropping into a pseudo-Wildcat?

I meant, the Giants were all "wtf is this shit" and called a time out, THEN THEY TRIED IT AGAIN. The kicker threw the worlds dumbest interception..

You're terrible, Washington. How the hell did you manage to beat Oakland?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: CardinalFang on 22 Dec 2009, 09:33
I think that there was a clown convention in DC and some of the clowns sneaked in and put on Redskins uniforms and played.
Or something.
I don't know.
I just don't know.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: WestEnder67 on 27 Dec 2009, 13:30
Pats secure the AFC East.  :-D

Also, anyone see Janikowski's 61 yard FG for the Raiders against Cleveland?  :-o
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 28 Dec 2009, 00:15
No, but I did see Brandon Stokley get ejected for striking an umpire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0vlRkdlpSU). It's not as cool as it sounds, but still. Gives me some levity to fall back on after my Bears get clobbered by the Vikes tomorrow night.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Darke on 28 Dec 2009, 05:23
Next week is going to be tense. Something like 11 teams still have (slim) mathematical chances of getting into the play-offs. Quite thankful I don't care about any of them, or the uncertainty would probably kill me.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 28 Dec 2009, 12:50
It's more like 7, and they're all in the AFC.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/phyrexianmeatdog/nfcsucks.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 28 Dec 2009, 14:36
So, two wins in two with two clean sheets.
Huzzah for Mancini.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 28 Dec 2009, 20:41
This football game is killing me.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 28 Dec 2009, 22:59
DAAAA BEARS

Granted, this win is mostly a benefit from Viking mistakes, but I'll take anything at this point.

Also: Jay Cutler, 20/35, 273 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT

These are numbers I can get behind. Where the fuck has our offensive line been all season?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 29 Dec 2009, 00:05
I dunno, I rather feel like they got an assist from some mediocre defensive line play-- the Vikings offensive and defensive lines just got plain pushed around by the Cardinals and they haven't been the same since. It didn't help that Pat Williams was out either. Without him clogging up the middle the ends just can't get away with freelancing like they're used to, and god knows Jared Allen always rushes the passer first and checks for running backs second, if at all. The whole "We only play one half during any given game" thing definitely came back with vengeance too. We've had a good season, so I suppose I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but this isn't really the best way to head into the playoffs. I mean, c'mon, we curbstomped the Bears last time, so what the hell guys?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 29 Dec 2009, 16:31
You're also going to be fighting a thoroughly pissed Giants team next week too. Not that that really means anything though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 29 Dec 2009, 19:32
Their defense couldn't stop my chihuahua at this point though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 29 Dec 2009, 20:03
Yeah but Chihuahuas are vicious little bastards.

So, cricket. I was briefly considering going to the last day of the Boxing Day Test here in Melbourne, but I didn't have any money and it's stinking hot today so I decided to cower in my house and watch it on the T.V. instead. Good thing, too: Pakistan completely capitulated, going from three wickets down at the start of the day's play to all out just a few minutes after the lunch break. Shame, but at least they've shown that they can put up something of a fight and at least the Test matches this summer are going to five days instead of two-and-a-half days like they used to when the Australian team was basically untouchable. Shane Watson was named man of the match, deservedly I guess, but after he made a complete tool of himself in the last Test against the West Indies I can't stand the sight of the man.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 29 Dec 2009, 20:05
That low center of gravity makes 'em tough to tackle too.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Dec 2009, 02:15
True. But I think their ball carrying abilities are rather limited.

Anybody else here think that it's nice that the Giants are out? Anybody else here think that it's retribution for signing a wall in some stadium?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 30 Dec 2009, 07:40
meh. I'd care about that more if I respected the Cowboys as a franchise. And any hope of that that hadn't been squandered by Wade Philips, T.O., and Romo was ruined by the ugly-ass, pointlessly retarded screen that hangs over their field. I hope it falls and kills them all.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 30 Dec 2009, 07:42
HOW IS THIS NECESSARY?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Cowboys_stadium_television_screen.JPG/800px-Cowboys_stadium_television_screen.JPG)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Reed on 30 Dec 2009, 07:46
Because all Texas football fans clearly want to know what is going on in the world of international soccer.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Dec 2009, 09:51
It does remind one of that Xzibit meme we had on the internet a while ago.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 30 Dec 2009, 22:22
I dunno if anyone watches basketball, but I find it a li'l depressing that pretty much nobody in the league seems to feel the need to double Tim Duncan anymore. It's a very quiet end of an era.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 30 Dec 2009, 23:27
Basketball is a bad game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Jan 2010, 01:21
See, I find players interesting as opposed to the games themselves. Basketball has small teams and it becomes pretty easy to get a feel for the strengths and weaknesses of each player. Much like with hockey, it's one of the few sports where at any given second a player can get isolated and left to sink or swim with little to no warning. Football has moments like that, but the size of the pitch and teams can dull the impact a bit and make it a bit easier to protect a weaker player-- guys get beat bad all the time, of course, but usually the ball's going to get bogged down again anyway, so you can sorta live with it. But with basketball you'll end up with games where a guy will just get demolished by the same person repeatedly, and it becomes pretty interesting to find out how the guy will handle it, because if he doesn't figure it out, other teams will do it too. It's the least anonymous sport that way, really-- if you have a weakness, it will be found. The league is too small for it not to happen, and even shmucks like me will see it. And players respond to this pressure in as many ways as you can imagine.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 05:59
Leeds are winning against Manchester United at Old Trafford.

Quote from: BBC News
"Leeds fans singing 'Stand up if you're top of the League'. None of them have sat down yet.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Darke on 03 Jan 2010, 06:37
Sigh. I hate to sound like a paranoid Celtic fan, but when you get a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed and then a stone-wall red card for the opposing team ignored, it really does make you wonder...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 07:08
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT ALL TOGETHER

AND WE'VE HAD OUR UPS AND DOWNS

UP AND DOWNS

STAND UP AND SING FOR LEEDS UNITED

WE ARE THE GREATEST IN THE LAND
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 07:08
MARCHING ON TOGETHER

WE'RE GONNA SEE YOU WIN

LA LA LA LA LA LA

WE ARE SO PROUD

WE SHOUT IT OUT LOUD

WE LOVE YOU LEEDS

LEEDS

LEEDS


Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Darke on 03 Jan 2010, 07:10
Yeah... apparently they won a game against some guys, or something?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 07:21
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01552/jermaine_beckford_1552386c.jpg)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/1/3/1262525510367/Jermaine-Beckford--001.jpg)

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00958/05_280x390_958884a.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 07:39
(http://www.leedsunited.com/javaImages/7/94/0,,10273~8098823,00.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 08:07
Quote from: BBC News
Manchester United v Leeds United line-ups:
Man Utd: Kuszczak, Neville, Vidic, Jonathan Evans, Fabio Da Silva, Welbeck, Gibson, Anderson, Obertan, Berbatov, Rooney.
Subs: Amos, Brown, Owen, Giggs, Tosic, Carrick, Rafael Da Silva.
Leeds: Ankergren, Crowe, Naylor, Kisnorbo, Hughes, Howson, Kilkenny, Doyle, Johnson, Beckford, Becchio.
Subs: David Martin, Prutton, Grella, Michalik, Snodgrass, Capaldi, White.
Referee: Chris Foy (Merseyside)

Leeds boss Simon Grayson: "We won't change how we go about our business for anyone, as they wouldn't. We're here to win the game and we'll give it a go. The rivalry is there for everyone to know about, not so long ago it was a Premier League fixture, but hopefully it'll be a cracking game and atmosphere."

1319: GOAL Manchester United 0-1 Leeds United
Leeds goal: No, I'm not joking. Johnny Howson launches a fabulous 50-yard pass over the top of Wes Brown to Jermaine Beckford, and suddenly he's in behind. His touch is a little strong, but he gets to the ball before Brown and the onrushing Tomasz Kuszczak and rolls it into the net. This would be a Cupset to rival any other.

1326: Jason Crowe stands up a cross from the right to the back post, and Bradley Johnson heads wide. I knew League One once, and it wasn't like this. Leeds are on fire.

From Bobleponge, Eance, via text - "Stevo, watching this on telly at home in France. When Rooney had his shot cleared off the line, the Leeds fans sang a little ditty about his weight and his parentage. Two French commentators repeated it word for word, thinking it was the Manc fans encouraging him. Brilliant."

1347: Half-time Manchester United 0-1 Leeds United
If United weren't sure about their opponents before this one, they will know they are in a game now. It's everything the FA Cup should be.

From Missinaldo on 606: "There's only one team playing the football at OT today. Excellent passing, compact defending, and when attacking move forward in waves. It's Leeds.

From TaiSx via Twitter: "Are we playing Leeds or Real Madrid??

1454: Full-time Manchester United 0-1 Leeds United
Forget Leeds' past - they are a League One club, and they have just dumped Man United out of the FA Cup at Old Trafford. It's one of the great upsets in this competition's magnificent history.

1457: After everything Leeds' fans have been through in the last few years, you can feel nothing but delight for them as they start what is sure to be a massive party. That was a truly stunning performance.

Leeds boss Simon Grayson: "It was a good ball from Johnny Howson and nine out of 10 times Jermaine Beckford finishes them off. Full credit to the players, who were outstanding. They have been like that all season. Beckford is the new hero now."

Leeds United captain Richard Naylor: "It is unbelievable, a tremendous result that has been a long time coming. I am really proud of the lads. I thought we had a few chances to make it 2-0 late on. We dug in when we needed to but we also played some good football."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 08:11
Quote from: BBC News
Man Utd had never before lost in the third round of the Cup - or been knocked out of it by a lower-division side - during Sir Alex Ferguson's 23-year reign as manager.

"Leeds fans singing 'Stand up if you're top of the League'. None of them have sat down yet."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Coward on 03 Jan 2010, 08:46
A Leeds fan, perchance?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: WestEnder67 on 03 Jan 2010, 08:49
Sigh. I hate to sound like a paranoid Celtic fan, but when you get a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed and then a stone-wall red card for the opposing team ignored, it really does make you wonder...
Wonder what?

That the SFA - of the likes of Jim Farry, Gordon Smith, Darryl Broadfoot, Mike McCurry et al - have it in for Celtic?

Never! And yes, I am being sarcastic.

Not that the fact that we couldn't last for two minutes with the bloody lead against a team we'd dominated helped a great deal.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Kill.kenada on 03 Jan 2010, 10:02
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ALL LOVE LEEDS AND LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS LEEDS AND LEEDS
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 10:24
It's pretty much incredible whichever way you look at this.

1. We beat Manchester United.
2. We beat Manchester United at Old Trafford.
3. We beat Manchester United and kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford.
4. We beat near-enough Manchester United's first team and kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford.
4. We beat near-enough Manchester United's first team and kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford despite having four of our first team players out (Higgs, Parker, Bromby, Snodgrass).

Remember there's forty two places and two divisions between the two teams and their monthly wage bill is worth roughly the same as our whole team.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: blanktom on 03 Jan 2010, 10:53
I have to say it really was quite an impressive defeat. Business as usual for the Arsenal though! Stoke shouldn't be too difficult though. Now all I can do is hope Leeds keep up their performance against Spurs!

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 03 Jan 2010, 13:10
It was nice of the Giants D to come through for me like that. I knew they had it in 'em.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Darke on 03 Jan 2010, 13:29
Sigh. I hate to sound like a paranoid Celtic fan, but when you get a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed and then a stone-wall red card for the opposing team ignored, it really does make you wonder...
Wonder what?

That the SFA - of the likes of Jim Farry, Gordon Smith, Darryl Broadfoot, Mike McCurry et al - have it in for Celtic?

Never! And yes, I am being sarcastic.

Not that the fact that we couldn't last for two minutes with the bloody lead against a team we'd dominated helped a great deal.

Don't get me wrong, the strikers are to blame for their inability to finish, no doubt. However, it doesn't help that when they do finally manage to put one in the net it gets chopped off for no bloody reason.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 13:37
This doesn't capture Johnny Howson's fifty yard pass in all its glory but this is the Beckford goal from today.

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8043/beckford320.gif)

He had about twelve inches of space between the keeper and the last defender and in his normal casual manner slotted it perfectly between the two.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 03 Jan 2010, 14:34
How is this Leeds team only in League 1? The fact that they aren't winning it at an absolute canter is ridiculous. Them, Norwich and Chartlon are all far too good for the division. The fact that only 2 of them will go up automatically is pretty unfair.

That tie did not feel like a Man Utd home game. My favourite moment was when Gary Neville first gets the ball and gets pantomime booed. How often does he get booed at Old Trafford?

I recorded the match while at work today and I'm currently watching it through for the second time. Wes Brown somehow seems to have an even worse match second time around.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 14:46
Considering the fact that right after being booked Wes Brown committed two fouls which were easily worthy of a red (including an off the ball incident with a Leeds player who was lying on the ground at the time), I have decided that the referee had merely observed that it was more of an advantage to Leeds to keep him on the pitch since he was having such a bad game.

We've only lost two games this whole season (Milwall and Liverpool) and they were both unlucky results. I think Norwich will win the league but as long as we finish second I don't mind. For obvious reasons, I'm now completely sick of the play-offs. A trip to Wembley in the JPT would be nice too. Don't fancy our chances away at Spurs in the next round of the FA Cup though. Still, the gate revenue and TV money all goes in the kitty, which must be pretty hefty by this stage.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Rudi Voller on 03 Jan 2010, 14:58
I think that you probably have the edge on Charlton, but Norwich  (or Holt and Hoolahan if you prefer) look pretty much unstoppable at present. Leeds' main problem seems to be that they still have to travel to most of their rivals, so their run in is as hard as it could be. It'll come down to you against Norwich I reckon. Both would have won at a canter in any other year.

Think losing at Spurs is the best that could happen to Leeds. Get another payday, which is always helpful, and you don't run the risk of an extended cup run tiring your team.

I really enjoyed watching Leeds play today, and definitely hope they go up now, so best of luck. Still don't think you'll need too much of it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 15:05
Essentially, the gap between us and Norwich is academic because I don't see any points from these upcoming fixtures -

Swindon (A)
Huddersfield (A)
Southampton (A)
Norwich (A)
Charlton (A)

Probably a few draws on the road to come, maybe a loss or two as well. If Norwich drop any points at all I'll be amazed. Maybe someone will swoop in for Holt and/or Hoolahan. If so, I hope it's Leeds!
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Post by: tommydski on 03 Jan 2010, 15:12
I just don't want this day to end -

(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs222.snc3/20945_244297506864_534451864_3299762_613487_n.jpg)
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Post by: scarred on 03 Jan 2010, 15:54
It was nice of the Giants D to come through for me like that. I knew they had it in 'em.

good lord that game was hilarious
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Jan 2010, 16:08
The sad thing is that Eli really played his ass off this year once you factor in the nagging injury. Overall, they had a decent year offensively, but that defense hasn't stopped anyone but the 'Skins in weeks now.
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Post by: scarred on 03 Jan 2010, 16:12
Seems like there are more blowouts this week than usual - Buffalo reamed Indy 30-7, Dallas is up on Philly 24-0, and the Pack pounded Arizona 33-7. Hell, even the Chiefs are rompin' the Broncos 44-24. It's like half the league didn't even show up. Which would be understandable, if most of the teams getting creamed weren't fighting for playoff spots.

Well, except for the Colts, but whatever.
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Jan 2010, 16:27
Packers-Cardinals needs to be taken with a grain of salt though, what with Warner's concussion and Cromartie getting banged up early. Arizona was sitting an awful lot of starters for a big chunk of the game. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it pays off.

I will say that the Packers are a pretty scary team now that that their young offensive line has figured out how to run block pretty well as opposed to straight being incompetent in all phases of the game. I always liked Rodgers and their receivers (Hell, I built my championship fantasy team around them) but I was deathly afraid that the o-line wouldn't figure things out by the end of the season at one point. They were historically bad for a solid month.
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Post by: scarred on 03 Jan 2010, 16:40
Ah, that's true. Over here they're just airing the Titans-Hawks, so I'm missing all the little details like that. And I only watched until Johnson broke 2,000 anyway. Probably like most of the football fans out here.

Packers might be the surprise wild card team this year, like the Giants were when they went to the Bowl. And the Saints have lost three straight against less-than-mediocre teams. Given Dallas' history, it seems like the only other real NFC contenders are a battered Arizona team and the hot-and-cold Eagles. And if Green Bay ends up against the Minnesota for a third time, they'll be out for blood. 0-3 against one team in one season is just plain ugly.
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Jan 2010, 17:02
Charles Woodson tweaked his shoulder too; I don't like the Packers chances in the playoffs at all if it turns out that he can't play, since there really isn't any true "grind it out" defensively minded teams in the NFC playoffs this year, so you can't really sneak through a round or two thanks to lucky matchups on that end. Absolutely everyone is capable of doing some real damage through the air. Hell, you could argue that Dallas is the least passing oriented team in the playoffs right now, but even that's only just because they have a balls out ridiculous running back committee.
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Post by: scarred on 03 Jan 2010, 17:06
If the conference championship for the NFC turns into an arena football game I will enjoy it so much. More so than Eagles v. Giants, 45-38.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 03 Jan 2010, 17:55
I have to admit I had a little bit higher hopes going into this season than ending up 8-8, but there are some positives to take out of it. Most notably, Vernon Davis going from overpriced and underperforming to one of the best tight ends in the league. But also: Alex Smith rising from the grave and showing signs that he might just be a legitimate NFL starting quarterback, Frank Gore getting a fourth consecutive 1000-yard season despite mediocre blocking and missing three games, and the defense forcing absolute tons of turnovers in crucial games. Patrick Willis is still the best damn linebacker in the NFL, maybe the best overall defensive player.

But this is the offseason that will make or break Scott McLaughlin's career in San Francisco, as far as I'm concerned. The Niners will have two picks in the middle of the first round, so if he can't do something with this draft then I think he has to go. We need help on both lines (but who doesn't, really?), and we could use one more good defensive back. They have a core group to build on, but Smith needs to keep improving and the offensive line needs to get better at the very least for this team to be a contender again. Still, snapping the losing season streak is a start and Singletary has the team playing harder than they have in years.
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 04 Jan 2010, 06:33
I have decided that the referee had merely observed that it was more of an advantage to Leeds to keep him on the pitch since he was having such a bad game.

He was our best player.

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Post by: tommydski on 04 Jan 2010, 07:02
The whole build up to the goal can be seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owpnrxCXZJ4). Naylor (Leeds born, Captain) battles it away from the Scum players and knocks it to Howson (Leeds born, Vice-Captain) who plays that wonderful fifty yard pass through to Beckford.

I can't emphasise how happy this made me, I woke up laughing in my sleep this morning. Incredible.
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Post by: Radical AC on 04 Jan 2010, 21:36
HEY!  LISTEN!  My uni just won the Fiesta Bowl ('Merican Football)

This is pretty nifty.
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Post by: tommydski on 05 Jan 2010, 16:33
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i318/tommydski/p0is2.gif)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i318/tommydski/2b1rtv.gif)
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Post by: Yayniall on 05 Jan 2010, 18:13
hahah, gary chuckle.
quality.
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Post by: tommydski on 06 Jan 2010, 01:07
This one is even better. Leeds skipper Richard Naylor (also a lifelong Leeds fan) on Wayne Rooney -

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1149/naylorishardasfooku.gif)
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Post by: Inlander on 06 Jan 2010, 01:19
Subtle!
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Post by: scarred on 10 Jan 2010, 18:12
96 points scored in the Packers-Cardinals game. what
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Post by: Alex C on 10 Jan 2010, 19:02
I'm not really surprised, tbh. Like I said earlier, every offense in the NFC playoffs has some serious firepower available, and none of 'em have a defense that particularly impresses me. You can run on the Saints, for example, and the Vikings are good at forcing 3 and outs and getting sacks but they're curiously vulnerable to big plays. Like Scarred said, this could end up like Arena Football.
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Post by: Yayniall on 10 Jan 2010, 19:05
Or maybe even LFL.
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Post by: scarred on 10 Jan 2010, 19:53
As long as it doesn't end up the XFL.

(http://images.chron.com/blogs/fanblogtexans/xfl_hehateme.jpg)
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Post by: Darke on 10 Jan 2010, 20:30
Typical. Green Bay's defense has been rock solid all season long. Comes play-off time they all decide to take the night off. <_<
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Jan 2010, 11:40
God, I hate Brad Childress. He makes me crazy. Even up 14 to 3, with seconds to go in the half and the ball in our possession, he manages to scare the hell out of me. We didn't get burned, but really, why the hell would you give Dallas the ball back like that? There was no god damn reason to do what he did! It was just a silly risk! He really is the turd floating in the punch bowl of this Vikings' season.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Jan 2010, 11:49
On the other hand, the vikings are up 14 points so, you know, he must be doing something right ...
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Jan 2010, 13:06
He is like Andy Reid 2.0-- he is good at teaching an offense and he apparently works well with the front office when it comes to picking young players who should be able to fit into his offensive system. It is clear that he understands a lot about football. But with that said, he sucks at clock management and he also might as well light his challenge flags on fire before every game for all the good they do him. His teams always seem to be slow to make adjustments as well, since it's very rare that the Vikings play better in the second half of a game than in the first. Plus, you have to keep in mind that Leslie Frazier basically runs that defense from the ground up, so it's hard to give Childress much credit on that end, since Frazier is pretty likely to be a head coach himself at some point.

Basically, what I'm saying here is that Brad Childress sometimes randomly takes things away from the table, and when he does so it tends to be an inexplicable and dramatic fashion. For all his virtues as a teacher, once game day rolls around I never feel safe.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Jan 2010, 13:10
Still, congratulations, your team won in spectacular fashion.

I enjoyed this game. Good football and seeing Romo in trouble again and again really made my weekend. It might be trivial but I really think he's a bit of a pratt. Anyway ... Jets - Bolts next.
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Jan 2010, 13:15
I was actually pretty confident in this game for two closely intertwined reasons:

1. Vegas set this game to be close.

2. Everyone I knew seemed to be all over the Cowboys since they looked good last week and because they finished the season strong.

And as we all know, Vegas routinely fleeces the hell out of people. The public is often wrong and it often seems that the popular favorite just about always ends up going down in flames in this situation and Vegas ends up making eighty kajillion dollars. Was that a really well thought out logical reason to be down on the Cowboys? Nah. But sports isn't really about logic anyway, so I felt pretty good. Honestly, I feel a bit like order has been upheld in the universe-- it's too early for the Vikes to really choke yet anyway.
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Post by: Inlander on 17 Jan 2010, 14:46
Hey tommy, I had a dream last night in which Leeds beat Manchester United, 2-1 (Man U scored a late consolation goal after being 2 down for much of the match). In the dream my dream-self even thought "tommy's going to be so happy with this result".

I thought you'd like to know.
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Post by: tommydski on 17 Jan 2010, 14:54
That's pretty weird considering we did indeed beat Manchester United and I am still very happy about it!

I suspect we're going to get destroyed by Spurs in the next round but that will allow us to concentrate on the league.
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Post by: johnny5 on 17 Jan 2010, 15:45
AAAAAAAAAAAHHH GOD FUCKING YANKEE CAPITALIST COWBOYS
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 17 Jan 2010, 15:59
So since my last NHL-based post my team has completely imploded and instead of looking for a top 8 finish and home advantage in the playoffs they are now looking to just scrape their way into the playoffs at all. However, each other supported team here is doing fairly well; Bruins are in the playoff places and results look to be going their way enough to stay there; Capitals are still top 3 in the NHL, 1st in the Eastern Conference and Buffalo Sabres are comfortably within the playoffs too.

Now that it is coming up to trade time and the Olympics we will see what this does to the rosters for the teams on the bubble such as Flyers, Canadiens, Stars, Kings, Rangers and maybe surprisingly the Red Wings although with the shocking performances of Chris Osgood in net it has been up to rookie keeper Jimmy Howard to take the reins and he is doing fairly well, if not amazingly. However, at the bottom we can safely add Columbus and Edmonton to Carolina and Toronto for being completely out of the running for a playoff place and it is likely that they will lose players in order to gain draft picks next year.

Some better news (for me anyway) is that I am still well within touching distance of winning my fantasy hockey league so I guess that is some consolation, even though it is pretty small.
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Post by: scarred on 17 Jan 2010, 17:10
Totally called Jets over Chargers. AND it was the only truly entertaining game of the weekend. Nice.
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Jan 2010, 17:23
Yeah, that was a good match up for the Jets. I think I'm on record as thinking the Rivers-Jackson hook up is borderline unfair, but Revis is probably the only corner in the league that can practically cancel that advantage out single handedly.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Jan 2010, 18:19
I thought that was a most boring game. Must be me.

Halfway through, I went to do my WoW dailies.

Also: fat coaches ... why do they annoy me so?
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Post by: scarred on 17 Jan 2010, 18:23
I love Rex Ryan though. A week after he said his team would never make the playoffs he was declaring they'd win the super bowl. Plus, he gets animated on the sideline, and not in a creepy way like Andy Reid.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Jan 2010, 07:50
Oh hey we beat Burnley for our first win in...is it a month? All competitions?
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Post by: KaosPilot on 19 Jan 2010, 09:12
I saw this thread and thought "Woo! A sports thread where I can admit to being a Glasgow Rangers fan without being hated on." Then I read through the thread and saw that Rangers get hate here too. I suppose it's better than the Aberdeen Music Board where the hatred is pretty vitriolic. Anyway...

Delighted that we're currently 9 points clear at the top considering that Celtic have a game in hand. The string of games in December where we couldn't stop scoring was magic, but I can't see that continuing since a lot of our best players are injured at the moment, and I think the 0-1 result at Hamilton was indicative of this. If we win tonight I reckon it'll be the home advantage that swings it for us, but I can see Hamilton maybe pushing it to penalties. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Jan 2010, 09:17
See, I heard Rangers fans booed a minute of silence in the 60s after JFK was assassinated.

So yeah, pretty much fuck Rangers.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 19 Jan 2010, 09:39
Yeah, Rangers on the whole are let down by some of their fans. See UEFA cup final 2008.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 19 Jan 2010, 09:49
Growing up in Scotland I've met a number of intelligent, knowledgable Rangers fans. Unfortunately, they aren't the ones who everybody hears on matchdays. The problem is the folk nailing a bottle of Buckfast on the way to the match then chanting. Certainly doesn't reflect well on the club, which is probably the reason a lot of folk hate them.

That and the fact that they are the club of the establishment and win all the time, of course. If it makes you feel better I don't like either of the Auld Firm, and would happily see the back of the both of them. Can't imagine you'd miss going to places like Kilmarnock anyway.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 19 Jan 2010, 10:06
You're spot on about Rangers fans. The drink fuelled sectarianism and traditional unionism doesn't win a lot of fans.

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Post by: tommydski on 19 Jan 2010, 10:09
I work in Aberdeen and it seems that overwhelmingly the residents prefer the green side of Glasgow.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 19 Jan 2010, 10:15
This is very true. Walk down Union Street wearing a Celtic top and you're fairly safe. In a Rangers top? I've never worn my Rangers top in town without wearing a jumper over it. You'd think being a girl would make folk think twice but after almost getting lamped in a bar for just cheering when they won a game (against Fiorentina) I've decided to exhibit some common sense.

Seeing a lot of Leeds utd. love here though which is nice. My girlfriend got me watching them last season before the playoffs so it's been good to see them improve a lot under Grayson. She's mental about Leeds, being from there. I watched the Man Utd. v Leeds game down at her folks and it was brilliant, although the ball seemed to take forever to cross the line!
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Jan 2010, 10:23
Don't remind me. I thought the planet stopped spinning for a second or something.
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Post by: Yayniall on 19 Jan 2010, 14:46
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4223734006_90f7a3dc99.jpg)
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Post by: KaosPilot on 19 Jan 2010, 15:01
Fucking Carlisle.

But yaaay for Rangers scraping a 2-0 win over Hamilton in extra time even though it looks like another first-team player is now injured. Hopefully Miller's hamstring isn't too bad and he'll be back in time for the game against Hearts. He may have the first touch of a baby elephant but he's what we need in front of goal. Knowing my luck he'll be out against Hearts, we'll start Novo and some bastard will go through him as well.
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Post by: tommydski on 19 Jan 2010, 15:24
Fucking Carlisle.

Never mind, there's an away fixture too. I'm not bothered about the cup competitions. I expect we'll get thumped by Spurs over the weekend. As long as we finish second this year I'm happy. Beating Manchester United at Old Trafford was good enough for me.
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Jan 2010, 15:51
I prefer Celtic to Rangers simply because in situations where I'm neutral, I always cheer the team with the better uniform.

The test cricket season's finished here with Australia scoring an utterly predictable 3-0 series whitewash against Pakistan. There was a lot of carry-on about Australia's supposed "great escape" in Sydney when they came back to win after having only scored 127 runs in the first innings - but the media coverage almost universally ignored the fact that Australia only won because Pakistan had a massive choking fit and set an appallingly defensive field at the end of Australia's second innings, which allowed Michael Hussey to score the runs that ended up making the difference. Make no mistake: Australia didn't win that match, Pakistan lost it (a point made fairly emphatically by Michael Slater in an otherwise embarassingly partisan Channel 9 commentary team). Ricky Ponting is now the most succesful captain in Australian history, in terms of number of wins, which of course is impressive especially given that he's had to see the side through a huge transitional phase (losing Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath alone would've crippled most teams) - but it's hard to escape the feeling that under his captaincy the Australian cricket team has become ever less gracious in victory and in defeat, less likeable even than they were before. Sometimes, frankly, it's embarassing to watch them and think that these are the men who are representing Australia to the rest of the cricket-playing world.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 19 Jan 2010, 16:36
I hate to break away from Scottish football but the Winter Olympics are starting soon, so I hope you'll all be watching on February 13th when Canada pound Slovakia (just a guess, but highly likely).

Also if Rob is around anywhere, we'll be playing in Sheffield at some point this year (BUIHA div III nationals, I think, but I can't find anything on the web about it).
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Post by: Ozymandias on 19 Jan 2010, 16:40
having only scored 127 runs in the first innings

Yr sport is insane.
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Jan 2010, 16:58
It's not like they actually have to run all the way round the field every time. They get six "runs" just for hitting it over the fence and they don't even have to take a stride!
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 19 Jan 2010, 17:26
it's hard to escape the feeling that under his captaincy the Australian cricket team has become ever less gracious in victory and in defeat

The Australian team come across a hell of a lot less childish and petulant than the England. England's constant persecution complex about umpiring decisions is frankly embarrassing, and Stuart Broad really needs to grow up at some point. Going to the bother of officially complaining about the umpire after South Africa had let the ball tampering thing slide was just about the opposite of gracious.

And I feel Ponting gets a fairly hard rep a lot of the time. I don't think the team is any less sportsmanlike than it was under Waugh. If anything it's friendlier than it used to be. Or it might just seem that way now that they are no longer give the same impression of invulnerability.

Michael Slater is surprisingly good in the commentary booth. I expected him to be biased the same way most of them are, but he's remarkably knowledgable. Him and Atherton are probably the best I feel. No idea if you get Atherton down under, but he's superb. I talk about cricket far too much.
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Jan 2010, 18:03
Actually I almost never listen to the T.V. commentary; if Channel 9's not actively cheering on Australia then they're trying to sell you some cheap piece of "memorabilia" or touting their latest crappy show. I prefer to listen to the ABC radio commentary.

As for the Australian team, I don't really follow cricket apart from the domestic test season so I couldn't say how they compare to other teams, but this ridiculously petulant display (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-CHR_o8l4c) by Shane Watson upon his dismissal of Chris Gayle a couple of months ago (apparently all because Gayle had the temerity to say he was looking forward to scoring a few runs) seems indicative of the team's attitude at the moment: sore losers, and sore winners. Under Steve Waugh's captaincy they weren't exactly likeable, but you at least got the impression they were fair. Under Ponting the team seems more willing to try anything to get an angle, even (last summer) claiming as catches balls that the batsmen had blatantly missed - something I can never remember happening under Waugh or Mark Taylor.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 19 Jan 2010, 18:55
I haven't seen much of the Australian team since the Ashes, where I thought they handled themselves quite well, though that clip of Watson is pretty laughable. I think the biggest difference from the days of Waugh and Taylor (though I was pretty young at the time and could be misremembering) is that the teamused to carry a genuine air of menace. The current team just seem a bit childish, like a young kid trying to act the part that isn't really in them. The fast bowlers especially seem a bit too keen to play the part of a panto villain, snarling and glaring everywhere. I'm hoping they'll grow out of it.

As to the dishonesty, I think that's pretty much across the board. Everybody now claims bump balls as catches and the like, or excessively appealing. My particular favourite is England's New Great Hope appealing for LBW when the ball hit nothing but bat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB42L0-O-xc). Pretty embarrassing, and indicative of the direction the game seems to be taking.
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Jan 2010, 20:19
That's why I think there was a huge missed opportunity for Australia, who were so dominant for so long, to set the tone for the rest of the cricket-playing world. Because they were the team everybody wanted to emulate they were in a unique position to demonstrate how the game ought to be played, and really I think that's the only thing they had left to achieve - if they'd wanted to - when they were at their peak. It's not like they didn't have senior players of genuine integrity in the team - Adam Gilchrist, a famous walker, springs to mind - but of course the issue never even came up and as ever in professional sport the win-at-all-costs mentality has proven to be the dominant one.

EDIT: also that clip of Shane Watson doesn't show the whole thing: after screaming in Gayle's face he then proceeded to jump up and down on the spot three or four times laughing and shouting at Gayle, almost exactly like a spoilt child.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 20 Jan 2010, 00:05
I hate to break away from Scottish football but the Winter Olympics are starting soon, so I hope you'll all be watching on February 13th when Canada pound Slovakia (just a guess, but highly likely).
[...]
Don't skip the speed skating either. You know ... fast dutch people! Yay!
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Post by: Spluff on 20 Jan 2010, 01:07
Hopefully every other competitor will fuck up completely and Australia will come out with a medal again.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 20 Jan 2010, 02:46
I prefer Celtic to Rangers simply because in situations where I'm neutral, I always cheer the team with the better uniform.

I was about to say Rangers generally have the better strip...but I'm horribly bias. However, the Celtic Away kit makes them look like fluorescent bumble-bees. Why they don't have the all-white third kit as their away strip just bamboozles me. Then again...Partick Thistle's away kit...

(http://www.ptfc.co.uk/img/news/strip2.jpg)
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Post by: Inlander on 20 Jan 2010, 04:33
Holy . . . I didn't realise the military had special "attacking a rave in a snowy field" camouflage.
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Post by: Darke on 20 Jan 2010, 05:24
However, the Celtic Away kit makes them look like fluorescent bumble-bees.

Perhaps why we call it the "Bumblebee strip", then. ^_^

Away strips are allowed to be a bit daft, though. Let us not forget Rangers'... *cough* "tangerine" kit from a few years ago.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Jan 2010, 10:07
cripsyneck

We don't win anymore. It just doesn't happen. Burnley was a complete fluke.
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Post by: tommydski on 20 Jan 2010, 11:13
As I mentioned previously in this thread (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,23909.msg878889.html#msg878889), Tevez is a very literal example of Ferguson's incompetence which has in no small way contributed to their current debt (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8470595.stm) of $1.17 billion. With Giggs on the verge of retiring they are one Rooney away from being a nothing club.

The thing is about Ferguson is he genuinely doesn't give a shit about Manchester United. He's in it for Alex Ferguson and to hell with everything else. If he cared an iota about Scum he'd have left at the top of his game a few years back, when he was still roughly par for the course considering his expenditure. The fact that he didn't suggests it's all about him, not about the club he ostensibly serves. His stupid selfish pride has contributed to unmanageable spiraling debt of over £700m, the sale of their prize assets and very soon most likely two cup exits to their two most bitter rivals due to the unremarkable, negative team he has created.

In his mind, he is Manchester United and so he feels as if he is absolutely entitled to destroy them, which is absolutely fine by me. If any of the prawn sandwich brigade had a clue they'd stone him to death during the next home fixture but they're too thick to realise that he's busy playing Nero as Rome burns all around him.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 20 Jan 2010, 14:02
However, the Celtic Away kit makes them look like fluorescent bumble-bees.

Perhaps why we call it the "Bumblebee strip", then. ^_^

Away strips are allowed to be a bit daft, though. Let us not forget Rangers'... *cough* "tangerine" kit from a few years ago.

Yes, well. Quite. I was hoping most folk had forgotten about that.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Jan 2010, 11:38
I kinda liked the orange one, actually.
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Post by: Darke on 21 Jan 2010, 17:22
The problem with that strip wasn't how it looked; rather the very negative, sectarian connotations it carried.
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Post by: BrittanyMarie on 22 Jan 2010, 00:33
moving to american football for a second.... prince wrote a song about the vikings (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/01/prince-pens-purple-and-gold-fight-song-to-support-vikings/1). um. it.... um. i am sorry prince, i'm very very sorry (though i do appreciate the oddity of it)

(((((i still love you prince, always)))))

[edit: actually, the more i listen to it, the more i like it. seems like the music the girl in the record store is listening to in a clockwork orange)
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Post by: KaosPilot on 22 Jan 2010, 02:35
The problem with that strip wasn't how it looked; rather the very negative, sectarian connotations it carried.

Yup, and, as if our own orange strip wasn't enough, some Rangers fans took to wearing the Holland national side's strip as well...

On the transfer window, I am not loving these reports about Boyd and his agents talking to Aston Villa. Don't get me wrong, it'd be a fantastic move for him and it would bring some much needed money into the club, but I'm not so keen on losing our most prolific striker when we have a real chance at the domestic treble this year. In addition to this I don't think we can afford to lose another striker be it to injury or a transfer. Thankfully Mendes seems to be talking down any rumors of him moving, and is almost back to match-fitness. Could do with him for the Hearts game at the weekend as we'll be luck if Novo or Lafferty are fit. Also, I don't like Lafferty. Lanky diving git.
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 22 Jan 2010, 09:53
I'm looking to come up to Scotland at some point next year to get to the Auld Firm Derby.

What are the chances of me getting tickets for this?
I also want to catch a Partick Thistle home game too.

I was thinking of coming up for a weekend, Thistle on Saturday, Celtic/Rangers Sunday.

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Post by: a pack of wolves on 23 Jan 2010, 11:29
Well I wasn't expecting that. By the last ten minutes I was just hoping Leeds wouldn't concede another then all of a sudden Leeds have a penalty, Beckford puts it away and we've got a replay with Tottenham at Elland Road.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 23 Jan 2010, 12:08
Oh man. When the ref pointed at the spot I about fell off my seat.
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Post by: Darke on 23 Jan 2010, 17:30
So, NFL predictions?

Personally I can't see the Jets beating Indy (even though I said the same about them beating the Chargers), but Saints/Vikings I just cannot call. The part of me that loves a beautiful sport story would really like to see Favre win the Superbowl, but the Saints deserve to be there more than anyone based on this season.
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Post by: Inlander on 23 Jan 2010, 17:46
I'm only a casual American Football follower at best, but it seems to me that "Team representing the most fucked-over city in recent American history wins Superbowl" would be a much more beautiful sports story than "Old guy comes out of retirement, plays surprisingly well, and wins Superbowl."
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Post by: Alex C on 23 Jan 2010, 18:59
Yes, but then I wouldn't get to bathe in Wisconsin's tears.
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Post by: scarred on 23 Jan 2010, 19:26
I  really, really want the Jets to beat the Colts. I have this beautiful mental image of Rex Ryan going right up to Peyton Manning at the end of the game and yelling "POW! Right in the kisser!" and then eating an entire pig.

Saints-Vikings? Good family friends of mine are purple and gold, so they're who I'm rooting for, but I have no freaking clue how that game is going to turn out. Just gonna sit back and gorge myself, and probably cry into my food that Manning's in the Super Bowl again.
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Post by: Alex C on 23 Jan 2010, 19:40
I'm just amazed that either the Saints or the Vikings are going to have a chance to win the Superbowl. I mean, it's the Saints and the Vikings.

I'm not really all that fond of the Vikings chances right about now though because it sounds like our defensive line is all nicked up again. They're the Viking's real weapon, not Favre, and I give the Vikes even odds against anyone if they're healthy. But right now? I dunno. Kevin Williams and Ray Edwards are missing practices and Pat Williams played kinda bad during the second half slump due to age and that nagging elbow injury. If those guys aren't able to cover for the rest of the defense it'll be a disappointing game.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 23 Jan 2010, 23:42
Yeah if the Vikings can't get pressure on Brees then they'll be pretty fucked. Unless they can score 50 points to New Orleans's 45.
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Post by: est on 24 Jan 2010, 00:50
Well I wasn't expecting that. By the last ten minutes I was just hoping Leeds wouldn't concede another then all of a sudden Leeds have a penalty, Beckford puts it away and we've got a replay with Tottenham at Elland Road.

I am kind of following Leeds from afar at the moment.  I figure they're gonna go up into the Championship next year, and deservedly so if their current form is anything to go by.  I am very much enjoying their run in the FA cup, and particularly as an Arsenal supporter I would also very much enjoy Tottenham being knocked out :D
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Post by: Darke on 24 Jan 2010, 09:32
Oh how Fortuné infuriates me. Give him the ball five yards out in front of an empty net and he'll put it over the bar; well outisde the box at a totally absurd angle and he buries it in the top corner.

Still, we won in a very convincing manner which is excellent. Let's hope we can keep it up and start to close down on Rangers.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Jan 2010, 18:55
Shit like this is why I don't trust Childress. I mean, hey, why run to the left and get the kicker square with the uprights when you can try to fake out the other team, get called for a dumb penalty so you have to throw it to have a prayer of making the kick?

I don't even want to talk about Favre's decision making behind that throw either.
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 24 Jan 2010, 18:58
Oh cool! I went out and was like, 'damn I hope it went into overtime'. Yeah!

What did I miss guys?
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Jan 2010, 18:58
It shouldn't have. That was some colossally stupid decision making to get it to overtime.
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Post by: Jace on 24 Jan 2010, 19:20
And it looks like the Saints are going to the Superbowl.

TAKE THAT BRETT FAVRE! YOU CUNT!
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Jan 2010, 19:23
He played awful well until that last pass though, which is rather a shame. The Vikings offensive line should collectively feel rather guilty the next time the collect a paycheck, because they did not play well at all.
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Post by: Spluff on 24 Jan 2010, 19:35
The stars must have aligned over New Orleans tonight, because there was no way that they earned that victory.

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Post by: BrittanyMarie on 24 Jan 2010, 19:54
Musta been some voodoo that greased the ball but only when Adrian Peterson touched it. Basically, the Saints played less badly than the Vikings. I'll certainly be rooting for the Saints in two weeks.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Jan 2010, 20:00
It wasn't just Peterson by a long shot-- there was a ridiculous number of fumbles. Bottom line is, they tried to get fancy and fake out the other team when they should have just ran it or dumped it off in the middle and take a shot at the field goal. Why try to get the other team to commit a penalty when you're on the road in one of the loudest domes in the league and cannot afford a penalty yourself? That's just dumb and the worst possible time to take a 5 yard penalty.
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Post by: I Am Not Amused on 24 Jan 2010, 20:40
The stars must have aligned over New Orleans tonight, because there was no way that they earned that victory.



This is karma for Favre butt-raping every Packer fan and refusing to acknowledge, must less feel remorseful, about it. It feels somehow justifiably appropriate as a Packer fan to see him end this Viking season with a stupid, ill-timed interception.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 24 Jan 2010, 21:20
I am going prematurely grey because of that fucking game, good lord
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Jan 2010, 21:36
He still ended up making millions of dollars in endorsements anyway, so he'll probably just make himself a plaster cast made of money.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 24 Jan 2010, 23:46
Will he finally stay retired this time? I really lost my patience for Favre around the time of the third un-retirement and just wanted him to go away. It's great that he's still playing well at 40, but Jesus.

I have no idea what the Vikings are going to do without him, though. Not that he's the only good player on the team or anything, far from it, but having to go back to Tavaris Jackson isn't going to get them another chance at the Super Bowl.
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Post by: scarred on 25 Jan 2010, 00:17
He was nearly destroyed at the end of that game, and he looked about 85 during the postgame press conference. If he comes back next year, he won't last the regular season.

If I were his wife, I'd forbid him to do it.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jan 2010, 00:31
I am just kinda annoyed that this Super Bowl isn't gonna be a Jets v. Vikings game. Because I was seriously hoping there'd be some decent gameplay this year. Instead it's probably just gonna be another Halftime-only game for me.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Jan 2010, 04:20
I had a small window, of about 2 quarters, in which I was thinking:'yeah ... why NOT The Jets?' Would have liked to see no Manning in the Superbowl. Alas ...

I just finished watching the Vikings-Saints game. I actually thought that the Vikings deserved it more but that the Saints won thanks to fumbles and some questionable decisions. Still, good game. Enjoyed that.

Personally I hope that Fvre adds another year to his career. Whatever you think of him, his playing is never boring at least.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Jan 2010, 08:12
TAKE THAT BRETT FAVRE! YOU CUNT!

qft.

edit: I must talk about how great the Spurs-Leeds game was Saturday. I watched with three of my friends, one of which is a big Spurs supporter. It was easily one of the five best games I've ever seen, and GODDAMN YOU, JERMAINE BECKFORD.

Adding insult to injury, we decided to replay the game in FIFA10, and I was stuck playing as Leeds. The lowest moment of my entire life came when I scored with Beckford in the 86th minute to win 3-2, jumped up and started celebrating, only to stop and realize what just happened.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KaosPilot on 25 Jan 2010, 12:36
Everytime I play as Leeds on FIFA10 I lose. But then that's because I always play my brother who is ten times better than me, and also Beckford's constantly offside.
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Post by: Kill.kenada on 25 Jan 2010, 14:29
What did you guys think about Robert Snodgrass the other day?

I'm in man-love with him.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KaosPilot on 25 Jan 2010, 15:41
I hope Craig Levein is keeping an eye on him...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 25 Jan 2010, 15:59
I played about 8 hours straight on fifa at new year.
Low lights include my netherlands losing 4-2 to Sheffield Wednesday.
High lights include my 15-0 in the Manchester Derby.
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Post by: a pack of wolves on 25 Jan 2010, 18:33
edit: I must talk about how great the Spurs-Leeds game was Saturday. I watched with three of my friends, one of which is a big Spurs supporter. It was easily one of the five best games I've ever seen, and GODDAMN YOU, JERMAINE BECKFORD.

It was pretty damn great. Beckford bringing pain to others is a heartening thing.

To go to a non-partisan perspective, anyone else see the Ivory Coast vs Algeria game? Kader Keita's goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw63OWkSyMw) to put Ivory Cast ahead just before full time was completely stunning, but then Algeria equalize about a minute later and end up winning in extra time. Kind of a shame to see Ivory Coast go out and a pity they fell apart a bit in extra time, but great for Algeria and they did deserve it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 14:24
ROOOOOOONEYYYYYYYYYY!!!

That's 5 goals in two games, now.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 27 Jan 2010, 15:03
That was a good second half of football. As a neutral I'm glad it went to the wire like that, but I'll be cheering Villa in the final.

In the SPL, Hibs pinch a last-minute goal to win at Celtic Park whereas Rangers beat St. Mirren 2-0 and go ten points clear at the top! Yay!
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Post by: Inlander on 27 Jan 2010, 15:35
That's 5 goals in two games, now.

Which coincidentally is the same number of goals QPR let in in their last game.

Somebody forgot to tell them that you're meant to get promoted before you start falling apart because you were over-ambitious.
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Post by: Darke on 28 Jan 2010, 14:28
In the SPL, Hibs pinch a last-minute goal to win at Celtic Park whereas Rangers beat St. Mirren 2-0 and go ten points clear at the top! Yay!

We still have a game in hand! There's no worry at all! [/misplaced optimism]
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Post by: scarred on 29 Jan 2010, 18:44
OH SHIT HULU JUST PUT UP NFL NETWORK'S GAME OF THE WEEK SERIES WHAT

http://www.hulu.com/nfl/game-of-the-week
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 29 Jan 2010, 22:05
I'm still upset about the fucking vikings
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Post by: est on 30 Jan 2010, 01:44
Man, I just watched a few highlights of the Ghana-Nigeria and Egypt-Algeria games and I feel kind of torn about the whole thing.  On the one hand it's great to see the Ghana players getting really stoked about getting into the ACN final, but on the other hand we've got to play them, Germany and Serbia in the World Cup group stage, so fucking hell.
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Post by: scarred on 30 Jan 2010, 13:53
I'm still upset about the fucking vikings

Did you see the compilation of Viking fan reactions when Favre threw that last interception? It was a trainwreck of pain and comedy. I literally held my head in my hands for five minutes after that happened.
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Post by: Alex C on 30 Jan 2010, 18:30
I think it's fair to say as a fan base, we're not exactly equipped to handle these things very well. The fun part is the border line self-loathing you feel for being dumb enough to think they might win of these things. There's a sports writer who noted that once every 10 years or so the Vikings like to eviscerate their fans, and it's sadly pretty accurate.
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Post by: Darke on 01 Feb 2010, 15:45
Ahh, transfer deadline day. Always fun. Now, if you'll give me a moment... *ahem*

Keeeaaaaanoooooo!  :-D
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Post by: tommydski on 01 Feb 2010, 15:51
He'll score a lot in the SPL, I guarantee it.
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Post by: Darke on 01 Feb 2010, 16:10
No doubt about it. A friend of mine thinks he could rack up at least 20 before the season is over, and I find it hard to disagree.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Feb 2010, 16:43
My friend is absolutely pissed right now. He just got into foot, loves Spurs, and Keane is one of his favorite footballers.
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Post by: Rudi Voller on 04 Feb 2010, 09:52
Chelsea have had their transfer ban lifted. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8499169.stm)

Article says that Lens agreed with Chelsea that Kakuta's contract with them was "not valid". Sounds to me like Chelsea have payed them off. Wankers.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Feb 2010, 17:13
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/phyrexianmeatdog/lolwtf.png)
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 07 Feb 2010, 04:00
Euro 2012 groups have been drawn:

http://www.uefa.com/live/draw/euro/2012.qr/index.html

Of course Belgium gets shafted again. Scotland's group is pretty bad as well.
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Post by: Darke on 07 Feb 2010, 04:34
Yeah, we'll be very lucky to beat the Czech Republic, and let's not even talk about Spain. I am far from hopeful.
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Post by: WestEnder67 on 07 Feb 2010, 11:38
The Czechs are a team in decline, so we could well snatch something away and get a result at Hampden.

Spain are frightening. Torres & Villa vs McManus & Caldwell is almost nightmarish.

In other news, it's Super Bowl Sunday today.
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Post by: scarred on 07 Feb 2010, 11:39
Geaux Saints!
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Post by: BrittanyMarie on 07 Feb 2010, 12:24
The Saints, other than being from a city that deserves something good to happen to it more than anything, also have that dreamhunk Scott Fujita on the team. He is so smart and awesome and hot and smart and pro-gay rights and choice and freedom and his teammates call him a pinko communist fag from berkeley which makes me like him more. I feel like I'm gonna be doodling his name with like hearts and squiggles all over everything soon.
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 07 Feb 2010, 15:14
Go Sainnnnts. I am a Bucs fan so NFC South REPRESENT.
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Post by: Yayniall on 07 Feb 2010, 15:21
That Caps-Pens game today was a doosie.
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Post by: syrupykeyboard on 07 Feb 2010, 16:12
"I do believe that tonight, not only will Football win, the American People shall persevere. The strong spirit of Sportsmanship and Brotherhood will shine forth and guide us all to a higher Understanding."

EDIT: Also; the Colts. \m/
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 07 Feb 2010, 17:23
Great start to the second half.
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Post by: Inlander on 07 Feb 2010, 17:40
Yes, it's already made me forget how awful the Who were in the half-time show.

Oh wait, I just remembered.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 07 Feb 2010, 17:47
That Caps-Pens game today was a doosie.

You mean the cry-baby cheat versus Comrade hi-sticking game?
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Feb 2010, 18:32
Not a chance in fuck the Colts are gonna recover from this 4th quarter. GRABBED that ball from the Colts and he was fucking GONE.
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Post by: Darke on 07 Feb 2010, 18:51
That was so awesome.
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Post by: Dimmukane on 07 Feb 2010, 18:58
Haha, Ovechkin scored so hard he broke the goal camera.


Also, that one commentator kept saying 'orlee-ins'
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 07 Feb 2010, 19:00
RAGE

also, say what you want about the actual performance, that lightshow was fantastic.
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Post by: Dimmukane on 07 Feb 2010, 19:09
Yeah, best part about it, easily.
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Post by: LeeC on 07 Feb 2010, 19:13
great game, and happy for the saints! :laugh:
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 07 Feb 2010, 19:41
Great game, the right team won and Manning did not.

Happy!
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Feb 2010, 20:56
Yeah really happy about the Saints, That Drew Brees seems like a really nice guy as well. His press conference made me happy (until he started up the god talk).

Also pretty blown away that a) Peyton Manning did a Favre in the most improtant part of the game, considering he's ice-cold most of the time b) he managed to get showered an into a suit between leaving the field and his press conference. If I'd just been responsible for my team fucking up the Superbowl I'd wanna sit in the locker room and wallow for a while.

Also, was the audio and visual of The Who's set, like, unbelievably out-of-sync for anyone else? Like, 5 seconds out of sync or something? I ended up leaving the room because it was too shitty to watch.
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Post by: negative creep on 07 Feb 2010, 21:03
Yeah, we got that out-of-sync-thing here too, that sucked.
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Post by: scarred on 07 Feb 2010, 21:23
Man that was a fun game. I called my lady (who's in nola) after it was over and she was on her way to Bourbon Street and I could barely hear her over the din. Ridiculous.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Feb 2010, 21:27
Oh yeah lil Brees was so cute
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Post by: scarred on 07 Feb 2010, 21:27
Also can this thread be sad Peyton Manning pictures from now on?

(http://news.sportsinteraction.com/files/2009/12/peyton-manning-sad-face.jpg)
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Post by: scarred on 07 Feb 2010, 21:31
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2730/4339717312_55919cd525_o.jpg)
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Post by: sean on 07 Feb 2010, 21:43
you know i watched that and i dont have a goddamned idea of what actually happened inthat game.

i had drugs instead!
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2010, 08:02
I hit one of the pools I was in at half-time and won $250.

Go go gadget Saints kicker!
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Post by: scarred on 08 Feb 2010, 09:27
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/manning-face.jpg)
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Post by: scarred on 08 Feb 2010, 13:50
Drew Brees is Mufasa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHe9Pcv-Zl4)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 09 Feb 2010, 02:53
Drew Brees is Mufasa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHe9Pcv-Zl4)

Drew Brees is on the right, Mufasa is the Indianapolis Colts
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Post by: Jace on 09 Feb 2010, 07:02
<3 you so much Dovey
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Feb 2010, 05:22
So uh now that the Super Bowl is over, sports do still exist, right? I heard there's this thing people are doing right now called the Olympics I guess it's a biggish thing

Sucks about that dude from the Republic of Georgia who got killed in luge practice. Apparently he left the track at 88 miles an hour and slammed his head into a steel beam. What a shitty thing, all hoping to maybe win recognition for an accomplishment that you and your country can be proud of, and instead you get a faceful of cold, hard steel.

Insensitive quips aside, it really does suck. Winter Olympics are more badass than summer Olympics 'cause they are more deadly in my opinion.
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Post by: Jace on 14 Feb 2010, 07:41
The only important sport for the Winter Olympics is hockey.
What the fuck is curling. That is bullshit compared to hockey.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Feb 2010, 08:54
Curling is what the Scots do because they have no other entertainment. What kind of sport involves brooms and a bedpan?
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 14 Feb 2010, 10:31
Man, I am not sure what to make of Olympic Ice Hockey. I watched the Canadian women's team beat Slovakia 18-0 last night. That is just not Olympic standard by any means.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 14 Feb 2010, 12:52
Good weekend for Rangers! Celtic held to a 4 all draw by Aberdeen and today we beat Hibs 3-0 whilst playing the most attractive football I've seen us play in a while. Good stuff. Keeps us 10 points clear!
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Post by: scarred on 14 Feb 2010, 13:29
Curling makes me horny

I feel you, bud.
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Post by: Liz on 14 Feb 2010, 13:47
The only important sport for the Winter Olympics is hockey.
What the fuck is curling. That is bullshit compared to hockey.

Dude. Biathlon. They ski around and then they fire rifles before they ski some more. Totally friggin' badass.
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Post by: pilsner on 14 Feb 2010, 13:57
That's what Finnish people call "Saturday.  And alternate Sundays."  And they don't even get medals for doing it.  Best case scenario, they get herring.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Feb 2010, 15:05
Good weekend for Rangers! Celtic held to a 4 all draw by Aberdeen

Yeah but it wasn't a defeat for Celtic. Wait for it, we'll stomp you yet :D
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Feb 2010, 04:04
What the fuck there is Olympic women's hockey
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Post by: Barmymoo on 15 Feb 2010, 04:50
WHY IS THIS A SURPRISE WOMEN'S HOCKEY IS A SPORT IT IS THE BEST SPORT.

Slovakia got creamed, but they were up against Canada. It was hardly a fair match.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 15 Feb 2010, 05:13
Curling is what the Scots do because they have no other entertainment. [...]

You do know where scotch whiskey comes from, right?
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Post by: Barmymoo on 15 Feb 2010, 05:18
Right. They drink themselves into a stupor to forget the drudgery of their existence.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Feb 2010, 05:34
I mean I knew ladies played hockey thanks to you May I just did not realise it was in the Olympics
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Post by: Barmymoo on 15 Feb 2010, 06:53
I didn't really have any awareness of the Winter Olympics until I started playing hockey so fair enough.
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Post by: Alex C on 15 Feb 2010, 10:01
Women's ice hockey kinda bums me out though due to the lack of body checking. My hockey instincts are always say that the quickest way to the puck is through violence. Of course, that turned kinda problematic for me when I topped out at 5'8" and had few other appreciable skills, but I still find the no checking thing puzzling.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 15 Feb 2010, 10:31
There's no checking, but there's certainly a level of violence. I spent the whole of my last shift on Friday face down on the ice - every time I got up someone slammed me again. Maybe I'm a bit biased but I prefer watching women's ice hockey since there seems to be more skill involved. The men's teams tend to be better but women have to be more tactical.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 Feb 2010, 12:30
As much as I complained about the Canada 18 - 0 Slovakia drubbing and I will proceed to complain about the USA 12 - 1 China mauling there was some good to come out of it, namely this stunning goal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/vancouver_2010/ice_hockey/8515634.stm) (may be UK only video). However, the commentator claims it will not happen in the men's games which I doubt. Unless he means that there will be better goals just not that move which would make sense because there are amazing goals pretty much every night in the NHL anyway.

In terms of tactics for hits I understand where May is coming from because there is a lot of jostling and pushing even though there is no checking but I'm not so sure about tactics in general as the attack and defense setups seem quite uncoordinated in the women's games that I have watched so far.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Feb 2010, 22:40
Thog: Here stadium, where our women basketball teams play.

Kug: We no can dunk, but good fundamentals.

Ornik: That more fun to watch.
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Post by: Yayniall on 16 Feb 2010, 13:50
Bloody City.
I should be happy that we've gone 4th but they had to do it in a gawd awful way.
=/
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Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 01:42
USA vs. Norway men's curling is so intense right now oh god they're in an 11th end and each country only has two rocks left augh
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 01:51
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Post by: McTaggart on 17 Feb 2010, 02:45
It'd sure be nice if we had coverage of the games.

Yes, I know that technically channel 9 is covering it but god damn is this the worst coverage I've ever seen. Three hours of highlights in the morning and then those same highlights again in the late evening. I wish SBS still got to show what the commercial network that picked up the rights doesn't.
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Post by: Spluff on 17 Feb 2010, 03:10
To be fair, showing the Olympic Winter Games in Australia is basically ratings suicide.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Feb 2010, 04:49
USA vs. Norway men's curling is so intense right now oh god they're in an 11th end and each country only has two rocks left augh

How awesome was that last throw from the Canadian dude?

(I have access to the Foxtel coverage which is 24hrs a day accross like 3 or 4 channels. Hooray for Canadian girlfriend)
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Post by: blanktom on 17 Feb 2010, 05:11
I really really enjoyed the mens snowboard cross, we watched the entire thing from the heats right into the final and wow, that thing got exciting. I don't like the womens so much though, cos the men raced 4 at a time so there was chance of collision and it was more like a race, but the womens is all time trial bullshit.

Over in the UK the BBC have pretty much round the clock coverage of several different events at once through the interactive service. Its pretty neat and makes me not mind paying the ridiculous license fee so much.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 17 Feb 2010, 05:12
But dude how can you qualify first and then crash out? Fuck you sports.
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Post by: blanktom on 17 Feb 2010, 05:47
Ok never mind so it turns out the women do race in the final stages. And these final stages happened to be more awesome than the mens! Wooo the British woman got 8th cos she hurt her foot but its always nice to see the host side win stuff and Canada pretty much took this event by storm.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Feb 2010, 06:58
Over in the UK the BBC have pretty much round the clock coverage of several different events at once through the interactive service. It's pretty neat and makes me not mind paying the ridiculous license fee so much.

I went over to my captain's boyfriend's flat last night to watch the ice hockey with some of the team on their enormous plasma screen TV (so much better than a laptop screen) and there was about ten minutes of hockey followed by four hours of women's luge. Why is that even a sport? I wanted to watch HD ice hockey :(
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 17 Feb 2010, 09:14
That is exactly my problem with the BBC's coverage. Ice Hockey is the only thing I care about at the Winter Olympics (the snowboard cross was pretty cool though) and they show very little of it. I haven't seen any of the men's games and other than the first couple of women's games I haven't seen any of those either.
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Feb 2010, 10:54
I really really enjoyed the mens snowboard cross

Can someone explain to me why the US snowboard cross team (both mens' and womens') WORE JEANS?

I would think jeans are not a very snowboard-friendly item of clothing.
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Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 13:21
How awesome was that last throw from the Canadian dude?

(I have access to the Foxtel coverage which is 24hrs a day accross like 3 or 4 channels. Hooray for Canadian girlfriend)

I missed it, but I did hear the crowd effin' explode since they were all in the same arena. Team USA literally had to huddle up because they couldn't hear each other.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 17 Feb 2010, 15:14
Can someone explain to me why the US snowboard cross team (both mens' and womens') WORE JEANS?

I would think jeans are not a very snowboard-friendly item of clothing.

They mentioned this on the BBC coverage. They're not actually jeans, just styled to look that way.
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Post by: Inlander on 17 Feb 2010, 15:21
Their official team uniform plaid jumpers are also styled to look that way.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 15:24
John Shuster needs to stop being terrible at curling god dammit
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 17 Feb 2010, 17:04
Fuck yes double luge.
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Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 17:06
TWO EXTRA ENDS IN TWO DAYS?

At least we have the hammer in end 11...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 17 Feb 2010, 17:07
Dude why the fuck are you still watching curling when there's double luge on??
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 17:08
Because I'm clinging to the vain hope that USA might actually win a match someday
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 17:08
Gonna switch to double luge after they lose though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 17 Feb 2010, 17:22
GOD

DAMMIT

SHUSTER
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 17 Feb 2010, 18:48
I am getting really annoyed at the BBC's lack of Ice Hockey coverage. On their website there are 6 options of events while the Sweden v Germany men's game is on and not one of them is this game. Instead, we get Czech Republic v Slovakia at 5am just because nothing else is on. Not only is this the most bullshit game of the day but it is because Luge and Curling take up 2 of the free slots which the hockey game could use (the others are snowboard halfpipe and alpine skiing which are at least respectable events).
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Feb 2010, 20:02
Oh, man, that's horrible, particularly since international hockey kicks so much ass with the small rinks and the lack of a red line. Even the games that aren't between hockey powers are exciting as hell just because momentum can change so damn fast under international rules.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Feb 2010, 20:07
There's the silver lining I was looking for! Once I've finished this essay, it will be time for the 5am match to start! No point in trying to sleep tonight, I might as well watch some hockey!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Feb 2010, 08:30
Not only is this the most bullshit game of the day

Rob, I dare you to say that to Zdeno Chara's face. I'll even give you a step-ladder so you can do so.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Feb 2010, 09:23
Well, actually, in this case I will admit that I may have been wrong (not being able to see the other 2 games which were fairly close I may still have been right) but I am glad I stayed up to watch it. Both Vokoun and Halak were brilliant and kept their teams in with a chance all through the game, just a shame that Slovakia couldn't capitalise on any of the power plays and seemed to lack an offensive leader.

Just a mention for the BBC again though, his name is ZDENO NOT ZDENKO. Also, it is MARIAN Gaborik NOT MARTIN Gaborik. I swear, they seem to hate Ice Hockey so much and I just don't understand.
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 18 Feb 2010, 10:00
Ice hockey? That's the game with the diamond shaped running circuit and wooden bats that has touchdowns and House Runs, yeah?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Feb 2010, 10:02
>:(
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 18 Feb 2010, 18:53
Canada v. Switzerland just went through OT into a shootout, oh man!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Feb 2010, 19:48
Jonas Hiller had the goalkeeping performance of the tournament there. So unlucky not to have won the game for Switzerland. 44/46 saves in standard time and no goals in OT. Even with 14 power play minutes in 60 minutes of standard time Canada only scored once.

Crosby once again tried to cheat it in though, almost succeeding in kicking it in towards the end of the 60.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 18 Feb 2010, 20:42
So some chick from Cooma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooma,_New_South_Wales) with a funny name and big teeth just won a medal or something in for jumping up in the air with a plank strapped to her feet. I dunno, something like that. I'm a bit vague because people here haven't been talking about it every five minutes at all. Not even slightly. Total media blackout. I mean Australia wins so many medals at the winter olympics these days that I guess it's not really a big deal any more, ya know?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Patrick on 18 Feb 2010, 21:47
Wanna know who broadcast the first televised Olympics coverage?

HITLER

Quit yr bitchin' about poor coverage it could totally be worse
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 18 Feb 2010, 22:27
Harry she's adorable quit hating on Our Torah.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 18 Feb 2010, 22:39
I'm not hating on her! I'm hating on the Australian media in general and Channel 9 in particular's relentless jingoism! I preferred it when Australia didn't win any medals in the winter olympics and we could just enjoy it for what it is: a festival of weird and bizarre sports played by people who live on the other side of the world.

Plus you've got to admit, she does have big teeth and Torah's an awfully funny name for a Mormon.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 19 Feb 2010, 00:09
"That was a little wobbly, it was... woop-woop-woop-woop-woop-woop-woop-woop! And then, reeeewwrrr!! Like a cat!" -Scott Hamilton
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 19 Feb 2010, 00:17
EVAN LYSACEK BEAT YEVGENY PLUSHENKO IN FIGURE SKATING! FUCK YES TAKE THAT YOU RUSSIAN DOUCHEBAG!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Feb 2010, 00:21
Even when you win at figure skating you still lose
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 19 Feb 2010, 00:22
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs396.snc3/24084_1149208582166_1586130718_30782310_6992630_n.jpg)

You want it.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 19 Feb 2010, 00:23
Dutch ladies win silver and bronze at speed skating. Canada wins gold.

Nice for Canada. Nice for dutchieland.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Feb 2010, 00:25
You want it.

Do the judges add or subtract points based on the presentation of costume? Because that dude must've been REALLY good to have won in a black unitard with some tinsel superglued on
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 19 Feb 2010, 01:24
EVAN LYSACEK BEAT YEVGENY PLUSHENKO IN FIGURE SKATING! FUCK YES TAKE THAT YOU RUSSIAN DOUCHEBAG!

For some reason NBC held this really long shot on Plushenko during the medal ceremony where you could just see the bitterness bubbling inside him.
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Post by: Liz on 19 Feb 2010, 05:45
[img]http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs396.snc3/24084_1149208582166_1586130718_30782310_6992630_n.jpg[img]

You want it.

I'd hit it. Repeatedly.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Feb 2010, 05:48
Actually the dude is a pretty decent ringer for Australian singer/songwriter Paul Dempsey

(http://www.homebake.com.au/2007/bands/PaulDempsey.jpg)

yootoob (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaiy_ZxCGyE)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 19 Feb 2010, 06:27
For some reason NBC held this really long shot on Plushenko during the medal ceremony where you could just see the bitterness bubbling inside him.

Multiple times. It was beautiful. They also showed Plushenko walking away alone with a trainer in an empty hallway after they announced his score, and then cut to Lysacek celebrating with his cadre of coaches/family/fans/reporters/stadium staff.
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Post by: McTaggart on 19 Feb 2010, 07:21
How did that Johnny Wier guy do? I saw one of his routines and he looked like he was having a ball.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Feb 2010, 09:33
5th, IIRC.
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Post by: Scarychips on 19 Feb 2010, 10:02
Nope. Patrick Chan finished 5th.  Weir finished 6th.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Feb 2010, 13:18
Torah's an awfully funny name for a Mormon.

You just destroyed my crush on her, Harry.

Someday you will wake up to find your head separated from the rest of your body, yet you will still be living. I will take credit.

(It'll be like Futurama, except it WON'T be cool.)
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Feb 2010, 21:15
Take comfort in the fact that your crush was pointless anyway: she's engaged.

To another Mormon snowboarder.

They live in Salt Lake City.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Feb 2010, 22:07
oh god
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 19 Feb 2010, 23:45
(http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r518010_2849940.jpg)

I mean I'm sure she's a very nice Mormon but look at that mouth, it's like fuckin' Alien.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 20 Feb 2010, 00:00
what has been seen
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 20 Feb 2010, 11:52
I wasn't aware Australians even had Mormons, I thought they were a uniquely American problem.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 20 Feb 2010, 16:40
Mormons, not morons.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 20 Feb 2010, 19:37
Now, now, everyone knows Australia has a moron problem too:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sbr07vVCXe0/SwD-MurqvcI/AAAAAAAAGzg/Tmml4qjsesY/s400/michael-atkinson-mugshot.jpg)
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Post by: scarred on 21 Feb 2010, 00:25
At least one of the U.S. curling teams managed to scrape up a few victories. I can't wait till John Shuster retires forever.
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Post by: KvP on 21 Feb 2010, 21:12
I wasn't aware Australians even had Mormons, I thought they were a uniquely American problem.
As mormon problems go, America's are pretty minor. You know the formal-wear'd fuckos who troll neighborhoods to no success in the US? They're far more effective in the third world.

Anyway, the lady in the US ice dancing pair? I'd ice dance with her.


























horizontally
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Post by: Patrick on 21 Feb 2010, 21:37
Actually back in Tirana there were these two Mormon missionary dudes who I occasionally went drinking with

The Jehovah's Witnesses were the ones who were really fucking terrifying though, they straight up bought the former dictator's house and turned it into a temple what the fuck kind of message does that send
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Patrick on 21 Feb 2010, 21:56
I'm trying so hard not to post about how we beat Canada at hockey

I think that's the funniest fucking thing in the world
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Aurjay on 21 Feb 2010, 22:09
i know its been around forever but the sport where they ski and then shoot targets(biathlon?) makes zero sense to me. What is the correlation between the two. Yes i know it must be hard but still no idea why this is considered a sport. They are sports by themselves why combine them.
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Post by: Liz on 21 Feb 2010, 22:11
Hey now I have a friend that is competing in biathlon, you just shut up.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 21 Feb 2010, 22:13
It is because like a shark high fiving a gorilla, it need not have a reason beyond being badass
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Post by: Patrick on 21 Feb 2010, 22:29
i know its been around forever but the sport where they ski and then shoot targets(biathlon?) makes zero sense to me. What is the correlation between the two. Yes i know it must be hard but still no idea why this is considered a sport. They are sports by themselves why combine them.

Why combine them? 'Cause if you're Finnish you gotta worry 'bout fighting off them pesky Soviets, might as well see who can do it best.
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Post by: McTaggart on 21 Feb 2010, 22:42
Biathlon is one of the winter sports that does make sense. As in, you can see where it came from at least. It's the physical hunting and trekking skills refined and standardised into a competitive event. It's also straight up badass.
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Post by: KvP on 22 Feb 2010, 00:45
Actually I'm pretty sure it originated as a drill for the Norwegian army. It does look fuckin' hard though.
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Post by: Jace on 22 Feb 2010, 00:58
I'm trying so hard not to post about how we beat Canada at hockey

I think that's the funniest fucking thing in the world

FUCK YEAH AMERICA! FUCK YOU CANADA!

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!!!
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!!!
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!!!
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Post by: Ladybug on 22 Feb 2010, 03:42
Nordic combined has always made less sense to me than biathlon does. I mean, I can see how they would think of putting skiing and shooting together,  but cross-country skiing and ski jumping in the same sport… Well, I like watching it if we've got people in it who can do well, but it still doesn't make much sense.

But then again, there are a lot of Olympic sports that don't make much sense. Like skeleton. Sure, let's throw ourselves down an icy track, head-first, because it looks way more scary than going feet-first or, say, sitting inside of a bobsleigh, so of course it should be an Olympic event.
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Feb 2010, 04:11
Which is funny 'cause wasn't it luge what killed a dude and all

Also it's not fun to watch unless it's potentially lethal, why do you think NASCAR is so huge in some places
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Post by: Spluff on 22 Feb 2010, 04:15
I always figured that was because there was a sizable community of dickheads in those places.
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Post by: Ladybug on 22 Feb 2010, 04:15
Well, yes, it was luge, but then they made the track a whole bunch shorter and added extra walls and padding before doing the actual races. Though I think the skeleton riders probably use a shorter track anyways, as I read somewhere that they don't get the same speed as the luge people do? I dunno, throwing yourself head-first down an icy track sounds like a really bad idea anyways.

Not that ski jumping doesn't sound like a bad idea either, but yeah. Ski jumping, and especially ski flying, is awesome.

(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/105/105312/10531207/jpg/active/503x.jpg)
…during practice last night. But it doesn't happen very often, and this guy ended up being relatively fine.
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Post by: Scarychips on 22 Feb 2010, 04:28
Fuck You Jace. Just, Fuck You.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Aurjay on 22 Feb 2010, 04:49
It is because like a shark high fiving a gorilla, it need not have a reason beyond being badass

If  only they gave out Gold medals for best analogy ever.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 22 Feb 2010, 05:00
Canada look like one of the poorer hockey teams in the Olympics although they have a squad chock-full of supposed superstars. They'll probably beat Germany in the playoff round but any of USA, Sweden, Finland or Russia is likely to be a very tricky game and each of them could trip them up easily if they don't get their act together very quickly.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 23 Feb 2010, 03:23
If  only they gave out Gold medals for best analogy ever.

To be fair I got the idea from a fairly well-known t-shirt (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-HIGHFIVE&Category_Code=RB)
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Post by: Jace on 23 Feb 2010, 06:22
A fairly well known t-shirt that I own and have worn, getting me some fantastic compliments on my clothing choices. That and {TERROR} were what made people look forward to what I was going to wear next week when I saw them.
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Post by: scarred on 25 Feb 2010, 03:49
Holy shit Korea is gonna be piiiiiiisssed they got DQ'd from their gold in the short track relay.

plus side: US bronze by default! wee
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 08:39
Just proving that barely showing up to a race can sometimes end well.

Short-track relays are the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It almost seems like you would need to be on drugs to understand it.
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Post by: scarred on 25 Feb 2010, 08:47
They're still not as hilarious as cross-country skiing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 11:46
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/02/25/olympics.bobsled.driver.quits/index.html?hpt=C1

So first off, you have helmets, dude. And second off, it's not like your coach is going to tell you to go the wrong way or something.

(zing, Sven Kramer. ZING.)
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Post by: JD on 25 Feb 2010, 11:50
Fuck You Jace. Just, Fuck You.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: JD on 25 Feb 2010, 11:59
Canada look like one of the poorer hockey teams in the Olympics although they have a squad chock-full of supposed superstars. They'll probably beat Germany in the playoff round but any of USA, Sweden, Finland or Russia is likely to be a very tricky game and each of them could trip them up easily if they don't get their act together very quickly.

Well we beat russia and finland and sweden got knocked out(I think)

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 25 Feb 2010, 12:12
Yeah, big upset for Sweden there but Finland beat Czech Republic 2-0 so they're through to face USA.

Canada were pretty great in front of goal and really did get their act together but i wasn't too amazed by their defensive play. The defensemen were great at supporting the attacks but the Russian goals were soft. However, they shouldn't have a problem with Slovakia unless something really goes belly-up and USA should have no problem with Finland either so a USA v Canada rematch looks to be on the cards for the final.
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Post by: JD on 26 Feb 2010, 15:11
Canadians beat the Americans, Ha!

(In female hockey that is)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 26 Feb 2010, 15:48
The Americans were so pissed too. There was a little kid running around the American team before the medal-presentation ceremony and nobody even smiled at him except his mom.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Melodic on 28 Feb 2010, 17:07
SPEAKING OF PISSED-OFF AMERICANS
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Post by: JD on 28 Feb 2010, 17:38
Finally fixed that torch eh?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 01 Mar 2010, 04:11
Nickelback is still Canadian
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2010, 04:14
They should've had Rush play, or at least somebody else who is actually talented
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Post by: Barmymoo on 01 Mar 2010, 04:49
The fact that Canada won almost makes up for the fact that my team lost our match on the same day.

I mean, it wasn't on the same scale, but still. It mattered.
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Post by: Chesire Cat on 01 Mar 2010, 04:55
I liked the Rocky-ish moment of getting Canada getting their asses kicked by the US in the first matchup only to turn around meet them at the final game and win in OT
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Mar 2010, 05:13
I keep trying to feel happy for Canada after they once again almost snatched defeat from the jaws of victory but then I remember that Sidney fucking Crosby scored the winner and I realise that I will always see the victory as tainted all over again.
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Post by: Inlander on 01 Mar 2010, 05:42
Oh, so his name's Sidney? Cause I swear to god it sounded like the commentator was saying Cyndi and I was thinking "Man, that can't be right - not even in Canada."
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Post by: pilsner on 01 Mar 2010, 08:48
I'm about as sports ignorant as you can get without actually living in a spiderhole, so can someone explain the rampant Crosby hatred please? 
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 09:02
He's the proclaimed "next Great One". I mean in all fairness he's a pretty great hockey player, but he's just SO fucking hyped that it isn't even funny.


(Anyway, Ovechkin's miles better than Crosby)
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Mar 2010, 09:37
It's because people routinely write shit like this: With one goal Crosby puts the Ovechkin argument to rest. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354105-with-one-goal-crosby-puts-the-ovechkin-arguement-to-rest)

It makes a lot of us crazy. I'm completely unaligned in the Ovechkin-Crosby debate and even I threw up in my mouth a li'l when I read that.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 10:02
I liked the Rocky-ish moment of getting Canada getting their asses kicked by the US in the first matchup only to turn around meet them at the final game and win in OT

You're saying Rafalski and Niedermayer should have thrown down, with NBC cutting the broadcast right as the first punches were being thrown?
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Post by: Chesire Cat on 01 Mar 2010, 10:12
I don't give fuck about the individual players. I just think they should have played Eye of th Tiger during the entire OT period
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Post by: Ozymandias on 01 Mar 2010, 10:36
Man what was with all the Mormon hate in this thread. Like, the worst thing I can say about any Mormon I've ever met is that she was too nice and happy. And I have met a goddamn whole lot of Mormons. Big damn Mormon community where I went to high school.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Mar 2010, 10:39
Yeah, I've met nice Mormons too. It probably helps that I consider most religions to be roughly equally crazy to begin with.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 10:43
My best friend in high school dated a Mormon girl for a while. She had him practically brainwashed at one point.

Fuckin' creepy. I'm sure most of them are pretty nice people, though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Mar 2010, 11:05
This must be one of those vestigially religious people vs. devoutly religious people things I don't understand. So many of the "Mormons are creepy!" and "Jehovah's Witnesses" are creepy statements I hear usually end up boiling down to "Wait, these people actually practice their religions and that makes me profoundly uncomfortable."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Chesire Cat on 01 Mar 2010, 12:37
Wait, that's why people don't like Sydney Croaby? I'm new to this thread but jeez, only Mormon I've ever met made Epek drum kits and is a totally nice guy. I'm fairly immune to advertisements religeous or not so it never really affected me much.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Mar 2010, 12:57
What? You obviously didn't read the whole thread. The mormon comment was about the Australian snowboarder who won a gold medal maybe on the last page. The Sidney Crosby hatred is just a general thing because he is supposedly some kind of God but really he was only a bit-part player in the Olympic win and pretty much any attacking player on the Canadian team would've put that shot away with just as much ease as he did.

To talk about the goal a bit Jarome Iginla made the pass and was superb in every game Canada played, quite possibly the best player in the tournament but you won't hear a lot about that because Crosby won the gold medal. Also, Jonathan Toews had 9 assists going into the final and went on to score the opening goal making him much more useful than Crosby too but Crosby scored the goal. Not even mentioning that a distinctly out-of-form Roberto Luongo in net still managed to concede no more than 3 goals in any game he played making the job of winning the games much easier for the forwards.

This is why people hate Crosby so much. I am loathe to admit that he is a very good player but it is true. However, it is the sycophantic nature of the journalists and the constant whoring of Crosby by everyone he is involved with while overlooking players who are as good as he is that makes me despise him so much.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Mar 2010, 15:05
Yeah, see, if someone wanted to write an article stating that Crosby is a remarkably complete player and passer even before age is taken into account, that'd be one thing. Instead, we get articles where the writers just vigorously spitshine his knob. It's annoying.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Mar 2010, 04:36
Man what was with all the Mormon hate in this thread. Like, the worst thing I can say about any Mormon I've ever met is that she was too nice and happy. And I have met a goddamn whole lot of Mormons. Big damn Mormon community where I went to high school.

I went back and read the thread and I am not quite seeing where there is actually any "hate"
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Mar 2010, 08:22
Also, Jonathan Toews had 9 assists going into the final

Let's...let's just stop this thread.

Let's take a second and talk about how amazing Jonathan Toews is. Seriously. Every time I watch him play, I always mind myself mouth agape, mumbling "....wow.".
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Mar 2010, 11:49
So apparently the Red Sox are currently walloping Northeastern University so bad that one of their assistant coaches just batted in David Ortiz's spot (and wore his jersey?).
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Post by: Barmymoo on 03 Mar 2010, 12:27
Eeeeelimiiiiiinatedededed
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Post by: Patrick on 03 Mar 2010, 23:12
Somebody talk to me about rugby

I really have no way to stay current on any kind of rugby shit other than a friend here in town who gets Setanta on his cable box and he is too busy working 3 jobs to do any socializing so I am very much without my newfound addiction, and my Google-fu is failing me

I don't even damn a give if it's sevens or any of that as long as there's some fuckin' rugby up in this thang somewhere
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Post by: Storm Rider on 04 Mar 2010, 01:13
Man what was with all the Mormon hate in this thread. Like, the worst thing I can say about any Mormon I've ever met is that she was too nice and happy. And I have met a goddamn whole lot of Mormons. Big damn Mormon community where I went to high school.

I've met plenty of nice individual Mormons, but the church itself is an extremely hate-filled, right wing institution. We're talking about a group that less than 40 years ago, still preached that being black was the Mark of Cain.They are one of the most actively homophobic groups in America and that takes a lot of dedication. So I'm not going to apologize for disparaging the Mormon church.
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Post by: Inlander on 04 Mar 2010, 04:22
Somebody talk to me about rugby

Well, in the southern hemisphere the Super 14's just about to start its 4th round, while up in the north they're in the middle of the Six Nations tournament.

I don't really have much idea of what's happening in the Six Nations, but I think Scotland are continuing to suck and Italy just won their first Six Nations match ever or something.

In the Super 14 it's looking much the same as usual: the Bulls (defending champions, from Northern Transvaal in South Africa I think) are sitting on a maximum 15 points from their first three games - but I'm pretty sure all those games have been at home so far. South African teams traditionally don't do too well on their Australian and New Zealand tours.  Two Australian teams, New South Wales (Waratahs) and the A.C.T. (Brumbies, my team) have finished their South African tours early in the season and now face a long string of home games, which should put them in a good position.  New South Wales beat Queensland, away. in the first round, in what's always a tough game - though by all accounts Queensland deserved to win (New South Wales scored a last-second try under the posts). Queensland are trying to rebuild after having been bled dry in terms of player drain in recent seasons, and their new coach Ewan Mackenzie has apparently got them playing a very entertaining, running game - completely the opposite of how New South Wales played under him. New South Wales appear to be showing signs of trying to break out of their typical unimaginative tight-five game, but at this stage of the season it's too early to tell if they're going to run the ball (as they always promise to do) or continue to disappoint their supporters. The A.C.T. are still trying to get their combinations going, but the signs are there that if they can get everything going smoothly they could be unstoppable. Banner signings Matt Giteau (a local boy) and Rocky Elsom should start clicking soon - in fact Elsom already has, it seems, which is very exciting. As for the team with the worst name in Rugby, the Western Force (from Perth), you can basically write off their season already: their big signing, South African fly-half Andre Pretorius, got a season-ending injury before the season even started, and since then it's all been down-hill for the team, injury-wise. It seems like every week there's another two first-team players being ruled out for the season.

I don't know what's going on with the South African or New Zealandish teams. The Canterbury Crusaders are typically strong, I think, and on the other end of the scale the Otago Highlanders continue to suck and the Wellington Hurricanes continue to show good early-season form which almost certainly won't last. I think the Auckland Blues are pretty crap this season, too - a big turnaround from when they were the unbeatable team in the first years of the Super 12.

This season, in an attempt to make Rugby more entertaining, the referees in the Super 14 have been instructed to interpret the laws of the game differently - actually to the letter of the law, to be precise - to benefit the attacking team, instead of the defending team which has had the benefit of interpretations in recent seasons (resulting in some pretty dire rugby). As ever, some experts in the northern hemisphere continue to lambast these efforts, claiming that there's nothing wrong with Rugby that a good 80-minute rolling-maul in the mud decided by whichever team has the best goal-kicker won't fix.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Mar 2010, 11:42
a friend here in town who gets Setanta on his cable box

Does...he need a roommate?

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sevens

edit: BAH NEVERFUCKING MIND. They moved the IRB Sevens US leg from Los Angeles to Las Vegas (http://www.usasevens.com/), and it already happened this year.
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Post by: Ozymandias on 04 Mar 2010, 11:45
Man I need to watch me some goddamn rugby.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 04 Mar 2010, 14:18
Yeah rugby is pretty ace
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Post by: scarred on 04 Mar 2010, 22:12
This is actually the first time I've paid attention to free agency but it's actually pretty exciting! Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor, both talking to Chicago. The Jets picked up Cromartie, and now have arguably the best two corners in the league. Thomas Jones, Brian Westbrook, and the rotting husks of LT and Jake Delhomme are all released. weeee
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Mar 2010, 01:20
a friend here in town who gets Setanta on his cable box

Does...he need a roommate?

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sevens

edit: BAH NEVERFUCKING MIND. They moved the IRB Sevens US leg from Los Angeles to Las Vegas (http://www.usasevens.com/), and it already happened this year.

Oh man I watched some of the buildup to that. It was just last month, too, it was hella recent. I'm sorry we both missed it. I enjoyed seeing Fiji and Samoa go at it in sevens (I think that's what they were working on) and it was the Raddest Shit. These two countries have their own styles of rugby playing that fit fucking beautifully in sevens and it was epic to watch them go at it. Samoa got pwned in the final quarter of the match though, but it was such a close battle for most of the game. Also if I recall there was a fun little ref call where he asked for video playback confirmation on a call he'd made regarding whether the ball was getting forced to the ground when some dude went for a try.

Or maybe that was Scotland v. this one French team and it was reg'lur old rugby I can't remember
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Post by: Alex C on 05 Mar 2010, 12:43
This is actually the first time I've paid attention to free agency but it's actually pretty exciting! Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor, both talking to Chicago. The Jets picked up Cromartie, and now have arguably the best two corners in the league. Thomas Jones, Brian Westbrook, and the rotting husks of LT and Jake Delhomme are all released. weeee

Too bad you picked one of the goofiest years to get interested in it. There's weird issues with the collective bargaining agreement, so a bunch of guys who would normally qualify for unrestricted free agent status are instead restricted free agents, which means most of the best young talent is effectively off limits this year. Boo.
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Post by: McTaggart on 05 Mar 2010, 12:47
Both of my teams have byes this week and it suuuuuuucks. My old Pretoria team the Bulls and my relatively new Perth team the Force are both not playing. Sport sucks this weekend.
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Post by: Alex C on 05 Mar 2010, 12:59
Also, the Panthers are really, really lucky they can ditch Delhomme during an uncapped year. His contract would have been an anchor around their necks for the next few years otherwise.


That said, I find the Delhomme thing a li'l depressing. I'm not really a fan of seeing people fail, and it's kinda sad because everything seems to indicate that he's a pretty nice guy, so it kinda sucks to see his career go down in flames like that-- Nobody really gets a spotlight put on 'em like a struggling QB. At least he's well compensated, I guess.
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Post by: scarred on 05 Mar 2010, 13:18
Yeah, I feel a little bad for him, mostly because no matter how serious the injury it always takes a while to bounce back from one, and he did use to be a good QB. Then again, he is still making millions of dollars, so... meh.
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Post by: scarred on 05 Mar 2010, 17:40
YEAH WE GOT PEPPERS! Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be a dud like the corpse of Orlando Pace.
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Post by: Alex C on 05 Mar 2010, 19:43
His injury was pretty damn serious too-- Tommy John surgery isn't common in football at all. Pitchers have given people the impression that guys come back from the surgery all the time, but it's really a shit terrible comparison. Baseball is a marathon season, after all, and between the minors and starting rotation you can hide a lot of struggles. An aging starting QB, on the other hand, just gets thrown to the wolves.
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Post by: scarred on 05 Mar 2010, 19:53
An aging starting QB, on the other hand, just gets thrown to the Lions.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Mar 2010, 00:12
As for the team with the worst name in Rugby, the Western Force (from Perth)

Until the Melbourne Rebels show up, at least
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Post by: Inlander on 07 Mar 2010, 00:23
No way, Western Force is much worse! For starters, where are they from? The West? The West of where? Secondly - force? What's that? Force of nature? Is that something they have a lot of in the West? Do people often go to the West and say "Look! A force!"?

I mean Melbourne Rebels is a pretty generic name (supposedly it ties into the whole bushranger thing that was a big deal in Victoria in the 19th century, blah blah blah) but at least it's not just some random assembly of vague descriptors.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Mar 2010, 00:28
The West of Australia and you are really stretching here, Harry.
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Post by: Inlander on 07 Mar 2010, 01:06
Yeah but see the way I see it is a good sporting team name should be able to be instantly and strongly identified with a specific place by anyone who sees it. So for instance you've got the Fremantle Dockers in the AFL and anyone anywhere in the world knows straight away they come from some place called Fremantle. But unless you know specifically about the Super 14 all you get out of the Western Force is a compass point.

As for the rest of it, in that other thread we've been talking about how sports team nicknames should identify the team in question with the place they come from. The ACT Brumbies is a really good example of this: brumbies are strongly identified in Australian folklore and cultural tradition with the southern highlands of New South Wales, which is precisely the region the team represents (seriously, go to anywhere in the Southern Tablelands and ask anyone you meet there which team they support: the Brumbies or the New South Wales Waratahs; nine times out of ten they're going to say Brumbies, guaranteed). The South Sydney Rabbitohs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Sydney_Rabbitohs#Emblem) are another good example. But as far as aware there are plenty of places in the world that have force. Whatever that even is. I mean if they were from Tatooine then sure, maybe, but they're from Perth. I mean I'm sure you've got lots of awesome stuff in Perth that you could name a team after. Like expatriates. There: your Rugby team is now called the Perth Expatriates. It's kind of like the London Irish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Irish).
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Post by: McTaggart on 07 Mar 2010, 01:37
So why does no-one ever complain about the Western Bulldogs? They're far worse, considering they're from the eastern states. At least the Force are from as far west as an Australian team is ever gonna be. Give it time and no-one will care anymore or we'll pick up a nickname.

Or, hell, Port Power! That's a one hundred percent awful name.
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Post by: Spluff on 07 Mar 2010, 02:01
They're not called Port Power.

And plenty of people complain about Footscray, but the name change was somewhat necessary. They were trying to broaden their demographic from just one small suburb to encompass a much larger area. Sure, it's kind of ambiguous, but chances are they would have gone under already or have gotten moved onto the Gold Coast or Western Sydney if they hadn't made the changes.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 07 Mar 2010, 13:46
I'm surprised that Arizona got so little for trading Boldin, but anything that makes them weaker is good for my Niners. Between that and Warner, Arizona's going to have a really weird season this year.
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Post by: scarred on 07 Mar 2010, 14:01
You mean they'll be back to normal.
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Post by: Alex C on 07 Mar 2010, 17:16
I'm not really sure how much losing Boldin actually hurts them. Fitzgerald's numbers go up when he's a bigger part of the offense and Steve Breaston broke a thousand yards last year. Boldin's obviously an asset, but it's not like they were ever really likely to repeat the 1,000 yards to 3 receivers thing even with Warner, much less a new starter. I could still see imagine them hitting 9 or 10 wins with a more traditional offense and a healthy Beanie Wells.

You know, unless Leinart shits the bed.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Mar 2010, 13:59
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Post by: KaosPilot on 10 Mar 2010, 14:17
Aye, that was some game. I know AC Milan don't consist of up and coming players, but they are 2nd in Serie A and Man Utd. succeeded in making them look really, really average. That first goal (peach of a pass from Neville..) just knocked all the wind out their sails and from there on in it was plain sailing for Man Utd.

Nice to see Beckham getting a bit teary-eyed when he came on the pitch, lovely reception as well. Y'know, befor ethey started booing him everytime he got on the ball.

Also, LOL @ Real Madrid.
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Post by: Alex C on 10 Mar 2010, 17:17
Ya know, for the record, I don't really have a problem with what Derek Anderson said about Browns fans. Perhaps it's a bit hasty to equate all of the fanbase with those people who cheered when his knee got blown out, but frankly, the people who DID cheer about it earned some disparagement and they know who they are.
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Post by: blanktom on 13 Mar 2010, 06:20
Back on the rugby front, the RBS 6 Nations is in its penultimate week and France are leading the pack with England, Ireland, Wales, Italy and Scotland behind them in that order.

Ireland are about to play Wales at home in what is usually one of the most exciting fixtures of the tournament, not to mention a fortnight ago John Hayes got his 100th cap and today Brian O'Driscoll celebrates his! That is a long time to play international rugby. I'll update later with the result!

EDIT: So, Ireland beat Wales with a convincing score of 27-12, mainly through lack of organization in the defense from Wales and Ireland using that through their set pieces. Some poor discipline on either side, Ireland had several warnings from the ref who appeared to be a stickler for tacklers not rolling away in the break down, but it was mainly the Welsh failure to make any of their massive possession and territory advantages count, and the 12 points they got were from penalties. Ireland could have chalked up at least another 10 points but for Johnathan Sextons failure to convert any of the tries and missing more than one penalty himself, IMO its too early to be benching O'Gara to give Sexton test match experience when he fails to kick so many points.

England drew with Scotland 15 all, which is yet another disappointing result for them against a team who were heading well on their way to picking up the wooden spoon this year, I can't really give much detail on the game because I actually only watched the first half, suffice to say it was essentially a penalty shoot out and if England carry on this way their World Cup hopes are looking to be dash against the rocks.

Italy v France today, a match that at the beginning of the championship would have been a forgone conclusion until Italy decided to make some radical changes to the rugby they play, coming very close on the heels of England 3 weeks ago then beating Scotland a fortnight ago.

Hope that I've provided a bit of insight for anybody interested in rugby union without just rambling on!
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Mar 2010, 14:33
Wooden spoon?
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Post by: tommydski on 16 Mar 2010, 14:39
Traditionally you get a wooden spoon for finishing dead last.
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Mar 2010, 15:06
Wow, they really know how to rub it in.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 18 Mar 2010, 13:51
Man if the NCAA tournament keeps goin like this I'm gonna be watchin it the whole weekend

A 2 seed almost lost and went to overtime, a 13 and an 11 seed won, and there was a 20T game already

Crazy.
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Post by: Liz on 18 Mar 2010, 14:28
I made a bracket with no knowledge of teams, because a friend of mine wanted me to. So far I am 5/5 on my picks.

woot
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 18 Mar 2010, 21:57
My bracket is currently doing better than Barry Obama's bracket

This clearly means I am better suited to be president
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Post by: blanktom on 20 Mar 2010, 06:47
Yeah, as Tommy said, the wooden spoon is dead last ie. not winning a single game in the entire tournament.

Today is the final day of the 6 Nations and I am excited! They've packed all 3 games into one day so its looking to be a long one. Wales play Italy first, then Ireland have their chance at the Triple Crown (beating the 3 other home nations) playing Scotland. And then, the one that looks to be the most talked about pairing today, is France against England, although I honestly don't think there's much to talk about considering England are playing at the bottom of their capability and France are completely on form. If you understand anything about the way the table works, understand that it speaks in volumes that France are not only leading on points in terms on matches won, but the points scored difference sees France with something like +64 and Ireland trailing with about +12!

Rambling over, let me know if you guys want an update at the end of the day, I do love to write about rugby!
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 20 Mar 2010, 16:55
I don't care if my bracket just got ruined this is the best tournament ever
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Post by: Liz on 20 Mar 2010, 19:22
Mine is still okay, Villanova losing hurt a bit but otherwise I'm not doing too badly. Hooray random choices!
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 20 Mar 2010, 19:29
Well Kansas was the big blow to most people's brackets.  Although I only had them in the final four but pretty much everyone else had them winning everything
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Post by: Liz on 20 Mar 2010, 19:55
Yeah, I only had them winning one more game so it doesn't do much to mine.
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Post by: Inlander on 20 Mar 2010, 22:55
I have absolutely no idea what you people are talking about.

Except I think someone said Kansas blows, which seems to be in accordance with most things I've heard about that particular state.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 21 Mar 2010, 11:23
it's basketball

kansas was favored to win

they lost

that's pretty much it
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Post by: KaosPilot on 21 Mar 2010, 11:56
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47511000/jpg/_47511599_celebrations_466b.jpg)

UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!
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Post by: Darke on 22 Mar 2010, 11:12
Boourns.  :x
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Post by: KaosPilot on 23 Mar 2010, 04:04
We'll probably get knocked out of the other cup by Dundee United tomorrow night. That said, if we can win against St. Mirren with 9 men I don't see why we can't beat Dundee United with 11.
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Post by: McTaggart on 23 Mar 2010, 05:27
Hoping for another big storm on Saturday to save the Force getting demolished by the Bulls.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 23 Mar 2010, 13:11
Also, I've decided to start following baseball as the season starts in 12 days and I've been kind of interested in it since before ESPN started charging for it's televisual services. My Pittsburgh Pirates following friend suggested them, but I've gone for the Milwaukee Brewers since I like beer and also when they play each other we can have good natured sporting banter.


I'd like to point out that I have, at best, a rudimentary understanding of the rules of baseball but figured that if I can pick up test cricket watching the Ashes then I can pick up baseball. Amirite?
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Post by: scarred on 23 Mar 2010, 13:28
Yaaaaay, playoff OT rules changed! Sorta.
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Post by: tommydski on 23 Mar 2010, 15:38
Let's just put this whole best ever thing to bed right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN6zTox-hhk), eh?

Jesus H fucking Messi.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 23 Mar 2010, 16:49
Pep Guardiola's face is priceless. "Eh, I knew that was going to happen".
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Post by: tommydski on 23 Mar 2010, 16:53
He's 22.

I assume for an encore he will actually walk on water.

Hail the Messiah.
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Post by: Darke on 23 Mar 2010, 18:17
Watching Messi makes me feel like such a useless human being. I can't tie my shoelaces with that much grace.
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 07 Apr 2010, 13:38
I can finally go pee. Damn these last 20 minutes.
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Post by: Spluff on 22 Apr 2010, 01:17
Well, Rugby League has pretty much sealed its fate.
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Post by: Inlander on 22 Apr 2010, 02:00
I dunno, this will probably make the Storm more popular than ever. They've always thrived on a bunker mentality down here in Melbourne: the Melbourne "Us" vs. Sydney "Them" has long been the mentality of the team and of its fans. This will just give them all a nice persecution complex to go along with that.

I've got mixed feelings about this; obviously, we're talking about massive breaches of the salary cap which disadvantages all those teams in the competition which are trying to play by the rules; on the other hand, I do think that the salary cap unfairly punishes teams that habitually develop their own playing talent, such as Melbourne. I think the NRL should be encouraging every team to develop their own playing ranks from juniors right through to first grade, but the salary cap system only discourages that. What I think they should do is introduce a kind of salary cap "discount" system: players that a club has developed in-house should only have half of their actual salary count towards the salary cap.

(For those of you outside Australia: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/22/2880349.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/22/2880349.htm).)
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Post by: Spluff on 22 Apr 2010, 02:26
I expect that most of the core supporter group will probably continue supporting them, but that's not what I think will do them in. Their already low attendances are probably going to drop even further due to the fact that they cannot take the points from any game, even if they win meaning that for the first time in their existence they will not be playing finals. On top of that they will (likely) lose several million dollars in sponsorships and 2.3 million in fines, and they will probably lose several players due to either not being able to fit them into the salary cap  or having the players walk after being dragged into the scandal. Consider also that the new Union franchise starting up in Melbourne that was going to steal members from the Storm anyway, and they've got trouble on their hands.

I fully expect this to have long lasting repercussions for the club, and eventually kill off the Melbourne Storm. The Carlton FC nearly died out after a similar incident, and they are a much, much stronger and powerful club who suffered much smaller fines for their rorting of the cap - eventually it took Dick Pratt funneling millions of dollars into the club to keep it afloat, and the Storm don't have any kind of powerful connections like Pratt or VISY.

And if League lose their already tenuous foothold in Melbourne then it's hard to see a strong future for the game, with the AFLs increasingly aggressive expansion into Rugby heartlands and the increased popularity of soccer.
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Post by: Inlander on 22 Apr 2010, 02:31
Hmm, those are all good points.

Lucky for me I think the Storm are a bunch of arrogant arseholes who play an incredibly boring style of rugby league and have been the main proponents in the NRL in recent years of a particularly ugly "whatever it takes" mentality akin to the attitude of the Australian cricket team.
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Post by: Aurjay on 22 Apr 2010, 22:07
Crap news of the week. I just found out im going to be in the field for the whole month of the World Cup. My Sgt has a satellite radio so i might be able to at least listen to the games. Won't be the same but at least its something.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Apr 2010, 23:19
the Storm don't have any kind of powerful connections like Pratt or VISY.

Aren't they owned by News Corp?
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Post by: scarred on 23 Apr 2010, 20:14
Denver took Tim Tebow. Still kind of lolling.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 24 Apr 2010, 17:33
Tebow hasn't thrown a ball in a regular season game and I'm already completely in hate with the smug bastard. Don't really know why but he annoys me.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 24 Apr 2010, 18:04
But he's the best college ball player ever or something. At least that's what a couple of overenthusiastic casters were saying in the one game I saw of his last year over on this side of the ditch. (i think it must've been his last one)

In other news, CARN THE PAAAA AND THE DEES. Way to beat the two undefeated teams on nothing but hard work and spit. And the fact that the Lions pretty much collapsed and relied on one player all night. But CARN THE PAAAA!
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Post by: scarred on 24 Apr 2010, 18:25
Tebow hasn't thrown a ball in a regular season game and I'm already completely in hate with the smug bastard. Don't really know why but he annoys me.

if he wasn't such an outrageously preachy bible-thumping pro-lifer... well, actually, he'd still be a just-barely-mediocre ball player.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Apr 2010, 18:30
Ahaha, Tim Tebow.

Look, let's get something straight right off the bat here: I don't give two shits about college football. I could not care less. I do not hate Tim Tebow. In fact, if anything, I'm inclined to feel charitable about him due to my reflexive rejection of bandwagon backlash-- You'll never see me hating on Peyton Manning for beating my teams and making too many commercials, for example. Hell, if Tim Tebow were a better player I'd probably just have quoted BeoPuppy and thrown up the "Haters gonna hate" fat kid gif.

There's just one problem: He throws the ball wrong. Uh, that's going to be a problem.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Apr 2010, 18:37
If nothing else, I love Tim Tebow for the fact that he gives me the chance to tell Tim Tebow fans that he throws the ball wrong. Try it some time! It's fun.


Also, it's even better when people point out that he has a new throwing motion so it shouldn't be a problem anymore. You know, because when you can spend a first round pick on a guy who had to change how he throws the ball, you have to do it.
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Post by: scarred on 24 Apr 2010, 18:41
The Tim Tebow Draft Pick In Photos (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/04/the-tim-tebow-draft-pick-in-photos.html)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Apr 2010, 07:15
I have never wanted to punch a person so much while knowing so little about them in my life.

(also my football team won, and now they are 5-1 and this is amazing because they have now won one less than they did all year last season and they are playing in the complete opposite way to what they have in their entire history and I am really fucking excited!)
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Post by: KaosPilot on 25 Apr 2010, 09:44
RAAANGERS ARE CHAMPIOOOOOOOOOOOONESS!!

With three games to spare. Hopefully we can beat Celtic in the last old-firm game of the season and really rub their noses in it.

What I find quite exciting is that Rangers and Celtic are going to play each other in Boston in July. If I have the time off work I might try and get across for that. If not hopefully Rangers will play the Ny Red Bull team from the MLS and I can see that instead.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Apr 2010, 17:00
if he wasn't such an outrageously preachy bible-thumping pro-lifer... well, actually, he'd still be a just-barely-mediocre ball player.

... now I know why I hate him. Thanks!

Also: he throws the ball wrong.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Apr 2010, 19:37
RAAANGERS ARE CHAMPIOOOOOOOOOOOONESS!!

I got a bit excited there because I thought you were talking about the NY Rangers in the NHL but then I was jerked back to the Real World, in which the Rangers suck suck suck and can't even make the fucking playoffs
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Post by: Jace on 25 Apr 2010, 20:07
Its cool because Buffalo just needs to win 2 games to fuck you boston
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 26 Apr 2010, 01:27
And all the while I sit here grinning while the Flyers are already through to round 2 after routing the Devils and reflecting that they only got here by putting out the Rangers in the first place.
 :lol:
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Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Apr 2010, 01:53
Aw man I was hoping that series would be a little more competitive than 4-1.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 06 May 2010, 04:28
I really hope the Sharks complete the sweep tomorrow just so I can watch all the sportscasters and their fucking East Coast bias eat their words when every single one of them was calling for the upset.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 08 May 2010, 04:13
Watching the Brumbies vs Highlanders game has reminded me how much I miss the game of a year or two ago that revolved around backs kicking back and forth trying to make territory.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 May 2010, 07:20
I refuse to concede the title yet. Wigan have already beat Chelsea this season. Can they do it at Stamford Bridge? I....hope so.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 08 May 2010, 11:48
Leeds were promoted to the Championship after beating Bristol Rovers today.

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47803000/jpg/_47803906_jb466getty.jpg)

Goals from Beckford (left) and Howson (right).

It's been a hell of a season and I can't find the right words yet. However, I am absolutely elated that we're one promotion away from the Premiership again.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 May 2010, 12:21
I am not sure how Bradley Johnson (shirtless) was able to produce a bottle of Bud so quickly so I assume he had it the whole game -

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47804000/jpg/_47804832_leeds466.jpg)

Incidentally, as you can tell from his choice of beverage, he's half-American and available for selection in the World Cup Finals along with Mike Grella and Davide Somma. Not to mention Patrick Kisnorbo, Neil Kilkenny and Shane Lowry (all Australian) and Max Gradel (Ivory Coast).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 09 May 2010, 10:12
In other promotion news, Bath City beat Woking 1-0 in the Blue Square South playoff final and so are now in the Conference proper (one promotion away from the football league). Good news for such a rugby dominated city.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Leinad on 09 May 2010, 14:52
WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS HERE WE COME OMG!!!! TAKE THAT FUCKING DETROIT!

Oh, and the Niners are winning their pennant this year. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: a pack of wolves on 10 May 2010, 12:22
It's been a hell of a season and I can't find the right words yet. However, I am absolutely elated that we're one promotion away from the Premiership again.

They didn't make it easy on us, did they? Job done now though, and the Championship should be interesting next year.

Speaking of going up, I'm hoping Huddersfield can at least make it to the final of the League One play-offs. Millwall are going to have a tough job taking them on at home on Saturday given Huddersfield's excellent home form this season. It'll be nice to see another Yorkshire team go up.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 11 May 2010, 11:31
I am not sure how Bradley Johnson (shirtless) was able to produce a bottle of Bud so quickly so I assume he had it the whole game -

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47804000/jpg/_47804832_leeds466.jpg)

Incidentally, as you can tell from his choice of beverage, he's half-American and available for selection in the World Cup Finals along with Mike Grella and Davide Somma. Not to mention Patrick Kisnorbo, Neil Kilkenny and Shane Lowry (all Australian) and Max Gradel (Ivory Coast).

Johnson's on the US preliminary squad, along with Herculez Gomez, who's been destroying the Mexican league this season.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: maxusy3k on 11 May 2010, 16:02
My home team just made it to the Championship play-off final.

It is a pretty good day to live in Blackpool (even if it is a shithole).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 12 May 2010, 03:48
WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS HERE WE COME OMG!!!! TAKE THAT FUCKING DETROIT!

Oh, and the Niners are winning their pennant this year. You heard it here first.

I like you, even if I don't quite share your optimism.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 May 2010, 18:32
I doubt anyone else here gives a crap about basketball, but there's a pretty good chance that a franchise will have its heart ripped out Temple of Doom style this Thursday. I'm not even joking; the Cleveland sports scene isn't exactly the cheeriest to begin with, and a LeBron James choke job followed by him fleeing in free agency would be an even bigger catastrophe than if Joe Mauer had left Minnesota. When you consider that Joe Mauer leaving would probably have led to my uncle hurling himself into the Mississippi along with the rest of St. Paul, that's pretty impressive.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 13 May 2010, 03:53
Oh come on you had to have known it was coming sooner or later
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Post by: Alex C on 14 May 2010, 10:38
That doesn't make it any less interesting, particularly since Cleveland fans had more or less talked themselves into the hope that if they win there's no way LeBron could leave a defending champ without hurting his rep historically (Besides, he'd make bazillion dollars as the champ no matter who he's with). Besides, just because you know a bad thing is extremely likely doesn't make it any less painful when it rears up and bites you in the ass. Trust me, I'm a Vikings fan. I know all about getting suckered into this shit year after year. It adds an extra layer of "How was I stupid enough to hope again?" self-loathing to the whole proceedings. Cleveland fans are going through that right now and LeBron hasn't even left yet.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 14 May 2010, 23:26
LeBron is a tremendous douche and emblematic of everything wrong with the NBA so I have trouble feeling sympathy for anyone in that equation.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 May 2010, 04:34
Bahahahahaha Bruins. Seriously, 3-0 up until Simon Gagne comes back and then single-handedly destroys you in the next 4 games, that's pretty embarrassing.
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Post by: Scarychips on 15 May 2010, 06:52
I agree with the previous statement. Seriously, man, leading 3-0 and then losing? This is really, fucking sad.

In other news, the Habs are gonna play against the Flyers. Woo?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 May 2010, 08:07
It's weird because I wanted the Canadiens to beat the Capitals and the Penguins and they did but now I obviously want them to lose so I feel kind of bad. If Carter and Cote finally shake off their injuries I think the Flyers have enough to make the final but if the unbeatable Halak keeps up his outstanding form it will definitely be a slog.

The Western final is pretty exciting too, Sharks vs Blackhawks. The Sharks have the best offensive line in the league this season in Marleau, Thornton and Heatley and several other great players but Nabokov is shaky at the best of times and against Toews, Sharp and Patrick Kane he will be tested. Antti Niemi is a very solid goaltender too so we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KaosPilot on 15 May 2010, 08:49
Leeds were promoted to the Championship after beating Bristol Rovers today.

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47803000/jpg/_47803906_jb466getty.jpg)

Goals from Beckford (left) and Howson (right).

It's been a hell of a season and I can't find the right words yet. However, I am absolutely elated that we're one promotion away from the Premiership again.

Magnificent. I was biting my nails after his goal. Gradel was a complete twat and I thought it was all over at 1-0 down, but NO!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 15 May 2010, 14:37
I hope LeBron doesn't sign with the Knicks. You see, I'm always somewhat annoyed by how sports news always gets clogged up by this assumption that athletes are willing to go to New York for chump change when the reality of it is that athletes go where they're being offered the most money.

And the Knicks are the absolute worst NY franchise in this regard because they suck so bad that they've been grasping at straws for over a decade. Every year or two writers act like the Knicks will get an all-star free agent to play for the mid-level exception because New York is the center of the universe. But this time, they actually have the cap space to at least match just about anyone else in the bidding. That means they'll feel justified in their "Everyone wants to play here," routine if LeBron goes there, even if past history shows that it's wrong 90% of the time. I know it's petty, but I'm sorta hoping they'll just get their hopes crushed and languish in obscurity for a while like losing teams are supposed to.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 15 May 2010, 14:41
I'm really fucking sick of the East Coast sports media bias. Everyone on ESPN picked the Red Wings to win in 7 since they were on the hot streak pre-playoffs, and to a degree I understand that, but the Sharks dispatch them handily in 5. So what happens the next round? They all predict Blackhawks in six. I know the Sharks have a shaky playoff reputation, but give me a fucking break.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 15 May 2010, 15:06
I think being a Vikings fan conditions me towards the opposite. I usually pick the teams I'm most familiar with apart and end up talking myself into thinking they're worse than they actually are. E.g. last year's Packers. Loved Rodgers. Took him in my fantasy league. But within a couple weeks his o-line damn near had me convinced he'd be dead by the end of the season. So your team has to be pretty awful before I'm willing to completely write them off against any midwest franchise.

I have no idea what'll happen with Sharks-Hawks though. Late in the playoffs, nearly identical records; eh, no thanks. Besides, I hate guessing what'll happen in hockey since sudden death overtime is brutal. One team can look like they're outplaying the other and suddenly they go down in flames over a garbage goal. Fuck, I love hockey.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 22 May 2010, 09:34
Congratulations to Blackpool FC. 39 years since they were last in the top flight of English football.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/5aooox.jpg)

(http://i49.tinypic.com/1z721dz.jpg)

A well-deserved 3-2 win over Cardiff City sealed their promotion from a team made up of young stars on loan and cast-offs from other clubs.

They probably won't last more than the 1 season in the Premier League but I'm sure they don't really care.
(Yes, they do play in tangerine orange and white)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: maxusy3k on 22 May 2010, 10:37
That final was amazing, was lucky to find a space in a pub showing it here. Stats said literally 1/3 of the town population were at Wembley, which figures since pretty much everybody I know was there. I spent the entire second half waiting for Cardiff to snatch it away from us and have my heart broken but we really pulled through!

Now have to wonder if we can even host our matches here next season - the stadium is pretty much always under construction, and the FA have expressed concern over capacity and access.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 26 May 2010, 03:31
Luckily, there's important NFL news as well. (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/05/25/end-of-an-era-in-minnesota-allen-cuts-his-mullet/)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 26 May 2010, 04:27
FLYERS IN THE STANLEY CUP FINAL FOR FIRST TIME SINCE 1997!!!!!!!

I am really excited about this because even if we don't win it is the first time that I have seen the Philadelphia Flyers play in a Stanley Cup final since I started watching hockey and became a Flyers fan in 2000. We stand a decent chance as long as no more injuries are picked up but the Hawks are also on fire so it won't be easy by any means.

So excited!
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Post by: scarred on 26 May 2010, 10:26
Luckily, there's important NFL news as well. (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/05/25/end-of-an-era-in-minnesota-allen-cuts-his-mullet/)


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

R.I.P. Jared Allen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkI9axajmT8)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 26 May 2010, 19:30
 :cry:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Thomas Edison on 27 May 2010, 06:42
Apparently my American football team is gonna' be beta testing an online stream of our first home game in a week or so. If you're interested in watching the British equivalent of the Detroit Lions, then I'll post a link up on here when it's given out.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 27 May 2010, 06:51
Oh, come now.


You guys can't be that bad.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 27 May 2010, 06:52
Well, actually, wait, did you recruit JaMarcus Russell? Then you might be that bad.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 27 May 2010, 11:07
The name JeMarcus Russell needs to become synonymous with failure, if it hasn't already.

He's the first player to literally eat himself out of the NFL.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 May 2010, 11:36
Considering this is the same league that continues to employ Big Pat Williams, that's saying something. I mean, look at 'im!
(http://www.vikingsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pat-williams.jpg)


There's a reason why some people actually gave him some benefit of the doubt over the starcaps thing, and it's not all just blatant homerism. It's just easier to believe that a guy has a problem cutting weight when he looks so big that you suspect that gravy would come out if he cut himself shaving.


BONUS ROUND: Vince Wilfork!
(http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/d000429c25_vince10032007.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 27 May 2010, 11:54
BTW, if I seem especially vicious about NFL and weights, it's because I personally suspect that the NFL needs weight limits of some sort if they ever expect subconcussive trauma and heart disease to quit cutting the lives of NFL linemen short. Rugby isn't even played with helmets, yet they have less people dying young due in large part because their rules don't allow NFL style blocking and because every player is actually expected to be able to get down field. That means there's no need for 350+ pound specialists who exist only to ram into each other over and over again until they're drummed out of the league by injury and drop dead by 53.
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Post by: scarred on 27 May 2010, 11:55
While that's a fair point, Russell isn't a lineman, he's (allegedly ;D) a QB.

Though I'm sure you knew that.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 May 2010, 11:56
I couldn't tell!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: est on 27 May 2010, 16:26
Leeds were promoted to the Championship after beating Bristol Rovers today.

I hear that your boys have signed Kasper Schmeichel now.  Pretty good buy, I reckon.

This business with Cesc maybe going to Barca maybe not is really frustrating.  Barca have always been a bunch of assholes when it comes to how they act during a transfer period, but this season is especially bad.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 27 May 2010, 16:42
It's not really just Barca acting like dicks but the way the media goes into a frenzy any time a transfer is even remotely possible and when it's basically a free for all between seasons they can't get enough. Barca have a lot of money and a great reputation with being one of the world's best club teams so there's always going to be stories surrounding them and considering Fabregas was brought up in their youth system and Arsenal are looking shaky without him once more it's really not surprising that this story has happened once again.

At least Barca don't act like Real Madrid though, buying any player they like then throwing them out like pieces of shit when they don't win anything because they have a dismal defence and won't buy any defenders to shore it up. Seeing as Mourinho is pretty much there though they will likely have to buy a couple after the world cup.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Spluff on 29 May 2010, 01:29
YELLOW AND BLACK
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KaosPilot on 01 Jun 2010, 03:03
World Cup, World Cup, World Cup, World Cup.

I'm excited.

Looking forward to hearing Capello's 23 man squad at some point today and I'll be backing England during the tournament but think either Brazil or Spain will win it.

Is anyone else excited about the WORLD CUP?
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Post by: Darke on 01 Jun 2010, 03:32
Hells yes. I've always liked Spain since I was a wee boy and thought their strips looked cool, so I'll be supporting them. Win or lose I'm sure they'll play some damn nice football.
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Post by: KaosPilot on 01 Jun 2010, 05:19
Spain were my team during the Euro 2008 cup when Scotland failed to qualify. I only wish I'd put more than £5 on them to win! Bought their strip yesterday as I'm also a fan of their kit.

I'll be cheering England, and to a lesser extent Spain although if they play each other I will back England to the hilt.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Jun 2010, 06:04
I am completely cynical and will not be supporting England because why would I support a team that contains players that I hate during the regular season?

But other than that WORLD CUP, WORLD CUP, WORLD CUP!!!

I am excited for it because regardless of support who doesn't like watching the best players in the world playing on the same pitch?
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Post by: KaosPilot on 01 Jun 2010, 06:36
That is a very good point about the best players in the World. I am expecting cracking goals, amazing saves and lots of nail biting!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 01 Jun 2010, 06:42
I'm expecting lots of skied shots and corners going way over everybody's heads because the designers of the Official Ball of the World Cup have sprinkled the balls with fairy dust to make them do magical corkscrews in flight like no other ball has ever done before it or some other dickery just like at the last World Cup.

Also Australia was the first team to South Africa! If this was the Amazing Race we'd already be world champions!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: est on 01 Jun 2010, 18:50
It's not really just Barca acting like dicks but the way the media goes into a frenzy any time a transfer is even remotely possible and when it's basically a free for all between seasons they can't get enough. Barca have a lot of money and a great reputation with being one of the world's best club teams so there's always going to be stories surrounding them and considering Fabregas was brought up in their youth system and Arsenal are looking shaky without him once more it's really not surprising that this story has happened once again.

Yeah I can agree with all of that, but it is like a constant barrage of the club managers being dipshits because the club president is embarrassed over letting him go, their players being dipshits coming out and saying things like "oh, he is here for sure" or "he would fit in really well here" or "oh man, I can't wait to give him that first post-game handjob" or somesuch and the team manager saying "oh, we're not gonna pay too much for him".  And then there's Arsenal on the other end saying "hey uh, we don't even have a fucking bid for him yet, what's going on?"

It's all bullshit mind games to drive his price down by trying to make it a done deal before the bid is even in.  The problem is that it's so goddamned blatant that everyone involved can see that that is what they are doing, and people are getting the shits to the point where maybe Wenger's gonna stamp his foot and say "no, this isn't gonna happen", and if that's the case he may as well just use Cesc as a waterboy or a benchwarmer or someshit next season for all the good he'll do us in the state he'll be in.
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Post by: scarred on 03 Jun 2010, 00:32
The worst call in the history of baseball. (http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300602106) Heartbreaking.
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Post by: tommydski on 03 Jun 2010, 11:48
Fabregas is worth £60m minimum and I'd probably say a fairer fee would be £70-80m.

If they pay less than that, it's literally the deal of a lifetime. Practically theft considering the age and form of the playing they would be getting.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: est on 03 Jun 2010, 23:58
Word on the street (blogs) is that they offered £29 mil maybe plus someone, but not sure what to make of that.  The response from Arsenal was pretty great.

Quote from: Arsenal.com
Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly-valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word.

Whether this is a flat "NO" or a very strong bargaining position is up for debate, but it is definitely The Way To Do It.
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Post by: Thomas Edison on 06 Jun 2010, 01:33
Live stream of Sussex Thunder versus Farnham Knights (maybe if it works) (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sussex-thunder-vs-farnham-knights)

Stream should start at 1:30PM(GMT), game kicks off at 2:30PM.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2010, 06:31
Ryan it would have helped if I knew which number you wore.
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Post by: Liz on 06 Jun 2010, 06:44
Numbers wouldn't even help, they're all so leetle.

EDIT: He's #55 if you still want it.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Jun 2010, 19:01
Holy shit, Ray Allen.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 06 Jun 2010, 20:40
yay blackhawks
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Darke on 11 Jun 2010, 05:22
It is WORLD CUP DAY! :D

Man I love a World Cup. Can't wait to see Spain in action again as they play truly wonderful football, and I'm very eager to see if Argentina can actually gel as a team, because if they do they could be unstoppable.

Also I will never stop laughing if the USA beat England tomorrow. Make it happen, America.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 11 Jun 2010, 07:05
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24833.0.html (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24833.0.html)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 15 Jun 2010, 17:30
I want the Celtics to beat the Lakers so bad. Mostly because I have a friend who's an LA fan who insists that the Lakers shoulda/woulda/coulda won in 2008 if it weren't for Andrew Bynum being injured. There should be a law that says you can't play the "Everyone knows they were the best team that year," card when said team rolled over in a game 6 clincher and lost by 39 points.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 15 Jun 2010, 17:49
fuck the lakers
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Jun 2010, 21:50
Another ring for Bryant, yet he crapped the bed so thoroughly that hopefully he set back those "No, really, he had just as good a career as Jordan!!" idiots another 5 years.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Jun 2010, 23:05
fuuuuuuuuuck the lakersssss
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 18 Jun 2010, 00:46
... so, what's wrong with the Lakers? Undeserved victory or something?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 18 Jun 2010, 10:30
Well, Kobe Bryant calls himself the Black Mamba, for one thing. I hate it when people try to nickname themselves.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 18 Jun 2010, 16:48
they're all insanely douchey and their fans are annoying to excess.

they're essentially the new england patriots of basketball.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 18 Jun 2010, 19:39
This is stating the obvious but they basically encapsulate everything about L.A. that makes it the sweaty choad of the universe
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Post by: Aurjay on 19 Jun 2010, 11:01
USA was robbed... Plain and simple. There was no one offside and if anything the American players were being fouled. No idea what the ref saw and by him being completely silent about the call i'm sure he doesn't know either. Yes we should have never even let them score 2 goals and have the game decided by a bad call but it did and it sucks. If we don't make it out of the group stages im gonna be pissed. Granted England is playing like crap so it looks good we will advance. i still hate it being so close.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jun 2010, 11:51
football

Sup bro (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24833.0.html)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Jimor on 19 Jun 2010, 16:35
Manute Bol (http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/19/manute-bol-dies-acute-kidney-failure/) passed away at 47.  :cry:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 19 Jun 2010, 17:08
I always thought it was kinda shitty how so many people would make fun of the guy for some of the ridiculous events he's been a part of, considering the fact that he always funneled that money back to charities. It really shouldn't take a 7'7" guy who's never ridden a horse to start jockeying as a stunt just to get people to donate peanuts to Darfur.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Aurjay on 20 Jun 2010, 06:14
football

Sup bro (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24833.0.html)

whoops
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 20 Jun 2010, 18:09
they're all insanely douchey and their fans are annoying to excess.

they're essentially the new england patriots of basketball.

... I like the Pats ...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 20 Jun 2010, 18:50
WELL YOU AND ALL YR PETS SHOULD DIE

but srsly, one of my best friends is a pats fan, so there's obvsly exceptions. it's broad stereotyping. for instance i am a bears fan, and we put up with this:

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4500/dabears.jpg)

it's all in good fun.

but yeah as a pats fan you should probably be aware that the only team anybody hates more than you is the cowboys. just sayin'
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Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Jun 2010, 20:21
DAH BEARZ
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 22 Jun 2010, 05:21
Well, being in the Netherlands makes it easier to dodge the scorn of irate football fans. So, that helps.

Also, as a Bears fan, you haven't had the best couple of seasons recently so, you know ... /hug.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Jun 2010, 08:58
thanks. i'm kind of excited for this year actually, because unless we make a playoff run (we won't) lovie won't come back. it'd be nice to not have keanu reeves as our head coach...

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5808/loviesucks.jpg)


fuck i'll be happy if martz can train jay cutler into completing passes to our team for a change. our defense is in a rebuilding year, too - even with urlacher back and the addition of julius peppers, we have shit and/or rookie corners and lovie's "cover who" strategy. zzzz

if it's not obvious, i want it to be football season very badly.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 22 Jun 2010, 13:28
Seconded.

And I hope Urlacher stays healthy for a bit. Last year's injury was just ... sad.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Jun 2010, 14:10
and/or upsettingly ordinary.

if brian urlacher's gonna be out for the whole season he'd better be an amputee or something, fer srs.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 22 Jun 2010, 15:23
Sometimes I think he's just too rangy to be as fast as he is and remain healthy the way at middle line backer-- he's like 5 inches taller than Ray Lewis but has always been listed as maybe 5 or 10 pounds heavier, tops. I mean, it's cool that he could play sideline-to-sideline as well as he did, due to being so goddam fast, but I always kinda thought he was secretly mediocre at just filling in gaps without getting clobbered by a 300 pounder. So now he's got a ton of running back type injuries from running around like a maniac and an arthritic back from getting murdered by guards. And I always sorta liked Julian Peterson better anyway.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Jun 2010, 22:59
Urlacher's definitely not the tank he used to be, and in recent years Urlacher's definitely let many ballcarriers out of his grasp. Hopefully Peppers will make our defense a little less reliant on Urlacher's less-than-stellar hole-filling ability, but Lance Briggs was always better at that anyway. Now that he can go back to his original position and we don't have to rely on the flimsy, green Nick Roach to fill the gaps, I think our secondary will be a lot stronger.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 24 Jun 2010, 09:17
While everyone's been distracted by the World Cup, Wimbledon has just hosted the most ridiculous game of tennis ever played. John Isner has just defeated Nicolas Mahut in five sets. The final scoreline: 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68. 70-68. SEVENTY-SIXTY-EIGHT. The game went for a shade over eleven hours, spread over two days.

Unbelievable.

(Incidentally, the Guardian Online has, as ever, a highly amusing live blog of the match, if you can summon the energy to read the entire thing. The match went for so long that it had to be live blogged in two parts: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/23/wimbledon-2010-tennis-live (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/23/wimbledon-2010-tennis-live) & http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/24/wimbledon-2010-isner-mahut-live (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/24/wimbledon-2010-isner-mahut-live).)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: amok on 24 Jun 2010, 11:54
The last set alone was significantly longer than every single match in Williams' title-winning Wimbledon last year put together.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: evilbobthebob on 24 Jun 2010, 11:57
My favourite moment from that match was the scoreboards all breaking when they passed 50 games apiece, because IBM didn't think that would ever happen
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 08 Jul 2010, 18:09
I still can't believe LeBron James has a timeslot set up to announce which team he's going with. I think the universe must hate Cleveland fans or something. It's the only way any of this makes sense.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Spluff on 08 Jul 2010, 21:58
Cleveland should just give up on sport altogether.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 07 Aug 2010, 03:33
Ah, thank fuck. New football season at last. I hope everybody is excited as I am.

Leeds had a decent preseason, despite a fairly pointless trek to Slovakia and being buried at Bury (ahem) we bounced back to thrash Hartlepool and Wolves (including this strike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBAA1P62Qvs) by the ever mercurial Max Gradel). I know preseason doesn't count for much but we've also  made some decent, if inexpensive, acquisitions and the new team has both width and pace, something we were usually lacking in League One. The defence is still a little bit shaky despite having been replaced entirely but that's sort of becoming a Leeds tradition. I don't think we'll go down and realistically I can see us finishing around the top of the bottom half of the table, which would be a decent outcome for any newly promoted side.

Out - Beckford, Ankergren, Kandol, Marques.
In - Paynter, Sam, Collins, Bruce, Connolly, Schmeichal, Bessone, Watt (season long loan from Arsenal), Clayton (month long loan from Man City).

First game of the season is today at 5.15pm against Derby County. Lots of links to watch the game online will appear here (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=82381&part=sports) later in the day. Should be entertaining!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 07 Aug 2010, 08:19
And yet the real season starts next week.  :-P

The new regulations on squad sizes and home-grown players in the Premiership can only be a good thing, hopefully with plenty of young players being given the chance to play some games and impress as only young players can. A few teams have been caught out by these regulations, a surprising one being Blackburn Rovers, just showing the fragility of the Premiership teams and how the league needs these kinds of changes to bring it, and I guess the national team, more credulity.

As for Liverpool, this season is already starting on an iffy note, with the many speculative takeover attempts and whether there will actually be any transfer funds available even if they happen and some not very impressive pre-season performances. However, youngsters Dani Pacheco, Martin Kelly, Stephen Darby, Nathan Ecclestone, David Amoo, Thomas Ince (son of Paul), Lauri Dalla Valle and new young signings Danny Wilson and Jonjo Shelvey should all get some first team game time under "Uncle" Roy Hodgson and maybe a 4th place finish will be possible although top 6 is more likely.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Aug 2010, 09:10
Yeah Rob, Liverpool are going to be dreadfully mediocre again this year, deal with it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 07 Aug 2010, 10:44
Hey, at least we bring our own players through rather than buying them all at extortionate rates and claiming that we raise them as our own.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Aug 2010, 11:05
Joe Cole much?  :wink:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 07 Aug 2010, 20:16
Joe Cole on a free transfer or Anderson for £18 million?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Aug 2010, 09:52
United should just not ever sign South Americans. Forlan wasn't that great, Veron didn't pan out, and um...yeah. Anderson.

Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 10 Aug 2010, 10:15
Don't forget Kleberson.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: amok on 10 Aug 2010, 10:18
woo, time for another year of no good goalkeeper and van persie injury news

I think I prefer the transfer window
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 10 Aug 2010, 10:23
First Bears game loss of the preseason on Saturday!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Aug 2010, 10:34
Don't forget Kleberson.

I'd purged my memory of him you asshole.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 11 Aug 2010, 07:35
First Bears game loss of the preseason on Saturday!

From your lips to god's ears.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 11 Aug 2010, 12:16
I can't wait for our entire coaching staff to be axed this postseason.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 13 Aug 2010, 02:18
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/08/340x_custom_1281647234808_urlacher.jpg)

I believe that the a replacement coach has already been found.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 13 Aug 2010, 10:47
are you talking about urlacher or the duck? because urlacher's nearing the end of his run but I think he'd make a great LB coach and maybe even Defensive Coordinator someday.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 13 Aug 2010, 10:49
... the duck, obviously.

But I guess your Urlacher point is valid too.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 13 Aug 2010, 10:50
He can't be as bad as Norv Turner.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 13 Aug 2010, 10:51
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/mjoven1975/chargers1.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 13 Aug 2010, 10:56
Painful ...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 13 Aug 2010, 14:42
Even worse. (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2008/1/tomlinson-inaction-figure-includes-kung.html)



I know he's a Jet now, but still.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 14 Aug 2010, 21:11
Only down 14-10 at half (the only part of preseason games that matter) and Cutler was only on the field for one drive... ugggggh still wish I could've watched it.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 16 Aug 2010, 20:39
Ah, thank fuck. New football season at last.

Man there are, like, only three months between seasons. That's nowhere near long enough to start getting sport withdrawals.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Aug 2010, 10:11
Ryan. Goddamned. Giggs. Woo!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: amok on 17 Aug 2010, 13:33
Giggs was awesome before some of our players were even born. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 17 Aug 2010, 13:51
Ryan. Goddamned. Giggs. Woo!

Scholes was way better in this game.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 19 Aug 2010, 13:40
So ... Mr. Alex C. .... excited?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 19 Aug 2010, 14:18
A li'l bit, yeah. As long as the Vikings have a talented team it should be fun to watch. Still, I always thought the Packers were going to be pretty damn good last year and other than their offensive line, they were. I even felt kinda dirty since Aaron Rodgers, Greg Jennings and Donald Driver were starters on my fantasy team for most of the year. I don't see much reason why they should be worse this year, so it's not like I think the Vikings are an automatic lock for a high seed again since splitting the series with Green Bay hits me as pretty plausible.

As far as the Favre saga goes, I'm not as annoyed by it as a lot of people are, but as a huge football nerd it kinda sucks since there's been pretty much no news out of the camps other than "We really hope he will be back."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 19 Aug 2010, 18:30
I just hope his ankle doesn't give out. The vikes have their bye real early, and that's before they fight the Packers twice, Dallas, New England, and NYG. Not to mention the fact that since GB's looking so strong, they'll be fighting tooth and nail to get out of a wild card spot. That's a lot of consecutive weeks on a flimsy ankle, so unless they can protect him really well (he was sacked 34 times last year) I'd be more than a little anxious.

If he does stay healthy though I'll be rooting for ya'll the entire way, if any fandom deserves a Super Bowl it's the vikes.

At the same time, this means the Bears are for sure in 3rd again, damn it. I would've liked to see a winning record at least, but 8-8 and the firing of Lovie Smith might have to do in terms of healthy optimism.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 19 Aug 2010, 18:52
I'd feel a helluva lot more comfortable coming into the season if everyone was talking about how healthy the Vikings are but that's pretty much the opposite of what has happened. When Chad Clifton got healthy the Packers o-line went from shit terrible to sorta OK and they grabbed a guy who can play both guard and tackle in the draft. And the Vikings wouldn't have beat them twice last year if Jared Allen and Ray Edwards weren't basically stealing Aaron Rodger's lunch money. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 19 Aug 2010, 18:55
On the bright, I did a li'l fist pump just now while typing "Ray Edwards." It's a ridiculous luxury having a guy like that as your least accomplished starting defensive linemen.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Aug 2010, 09:57
Clearly, when you get a penalty, up 2-1, this is the mindset you should have:

"Well who should take it? Owen and Berbatov are both on the field."
"Yeah, good point. NANI, YOU TAKE IT!"

Fucking IDIOT.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Aug 2010, 12:35
Cutler sacked five times against the Raiders. This is going to be a long season.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 22 Aug 2010, 19:27
The Raiders defense is secretly pretty OK because of their linebackers and dbacks, but yeah, um, 5 sacks is bad.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 24 Aug 2010, 13:27
Sometimes when I feel like being self-righteous I go read the ESPN comment sections on any decision a player makes that's remotely controversial. It kills me how pro-ownership and pro-team the average ESPN poster is and how li'l they give a shit about the rights of any individual that makes more money than they do. For example, Sidney Rice is going to be out due to some hip surgery many people believe he should have gotten months ago. So the scholars on the ESPN comment boards are talking about how he's a moron and that teams should be able to withhold pay from players for games missed if they choose not to get surgeries advised by team doctors within the time frame advised by team doctors. You know, because there is no conflict of interests there or anything with team doctors and they totally have the player's best long term interests at heart. Sidney's decision to go with a doctor his agent recommended wasn't a great idea either, but finding someone who doesn't have a stake in your performance one way or the other is kinda tough as an NFL player, so I'm not about to start casting stones.

Another fun wrinkle: I know a respected orthopedist from the Mayo clinic (he's a friend of my mom) who says that his entrenched private practice colleagues would rather not work with NFL players and teams at all. They have unrealistic expectations on both sides and your average practice wouldn't survive a ruling based on a top player's lost projected earnings, so it's really only a good idea to work with them if you can use the name recognition to attract more clients.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 28 Aug 2010, 08:12
What the fuck, South Africa?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 28 Aug 2010, 09:48
What hell where did that come from you magnificent bastards.

(We conceded two tries in the first seven minutes, but came back to win 44-31.)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Patrick on 28 Aug 2010, 19:05
The Raiders lineup is secretly pretty OK because of their Janikowski, but yeah, um, everything that ever happened to them after Madden is bad.

ftfy
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 28 Aug 2010, 19:12
Nah, they've got a good corner and I expect a couple of their linebackers to find success someday. Just not with the Raiders.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: johnny5 on 29 Aug 2010, 00:12
so the Cowboys really sucked. silver boot is staying in houston i guess
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Sep 2010, 22:19
Stupid Vikings being stupid unhealthy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 01 Sep 2010, 22:55
You know, I'm pretty drunk right now, and it occurs to me that I think if I was offered Ndamgahagablablah Suh from the Lions over any two Bears players, I'd take Suh without a moment's hesitation. I mean, I hate to say this, but I count being willing to just crush a guy for no god damned reason while playing an exhibition game for the fuckin' Lions as a plus. Wrecking somebody's shit over a football is kind of a shitty thing to do but for a defensive lineman that's pretty much the job description.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 01 Sep 2010, 23:24
i see him getting ejected from the league after brutally decapitating brent favre
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 03 Sep 2010, 06:12
CANBERRA RAIDERS!

They're into the National Rugby League finals for the first time since 2008 and they're going in with some great momentum and confidence: they've won five games in a row and eight of their last nine. They're almost certainly going to be playing against the minor premiers the St. George-Illawarra Dragons next week in the opening week of the finals, and that might normally be a concerning prospect but in fact they've got an unbelievably good record against the Dragons (they've beaten them ten times out of the last eleven games against them, or something crazy like that, and they've beaten them both times the two teams have played this year). Five weeks ago the Raiders were faced with having to win every single one of their remaining games to get into the finals, which nobody really gave them a chance of doing, and the fact that they've now done it is an incredible achievement, especially given that consistency has so often been a problem for the team in recent years (and in the first part of this year). The most exciting thing about the team is that they've done this all with what's probably the youngest team in the competition: they've got so many young players who are still improving and who look set to be genuinely great players in years to come. The Raiders have always been a development team, finding and nurturing their own players, and after being the best team in the competition for a long time fifteen or twenty years ago it's been a long, lean period. The prospect of another "dynasty" just around the corner is so exciting! Even if they lose next week and get knocked out of this year's finals, the future's looking brighter than it's looked for a long time.

Also, they've got Josh Dugan at fullback and he's only twenty years old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jla5TzfYUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jla5TzfYUE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz5cbGAdqys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz5cbGAdqys)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: SonofZ3 on 03 Sep 2010, 07:23
Oh Steelers, I had such high hopes for you, until seeing your pre-season games. Now I get to fall back on my second favorite team, the Colts, and watch Manning have a phenomenal regular season and choke in the playoffs...AGAIN.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Yayniall on 03 Sep 2010, 11:07
You're changing bandwagons after pre-season matches?
Get out.
There is no place in the sports thread for your kind.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 03 Sep 2010, 11:15
woooo 0-4 wooooo
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 04 Sep 2010, 08:56
Holy shit, the Wallabies (the Australian national Rugby Union team) are counter-attacking! From deep! That's something that hasn't been seen in, ohh, 15 years or so.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: est on 04 Sep 2010, 21:22
0 from 5 games.

Wooo Sydney FC, way to defend your Premiership+Championship double titles.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 09 Sep 2010, 17:54
God, why am I even watching this Vikings-Saints game? Banged up team with no corners vs. the offensively minded NFL champions.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Spluff on 09 Sep 2010, 19:06
God, why am I even watching this Vikings-Saints game? Banged up team with no corners vs. the offensively minded NFL champions.

hurp
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 09 Sep 2010, 20:27
They stopped throwing on the Vikes and somehow that only made things worse.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Spluff on 09 Sep 2010, 20:41
Honestly, I don't know why Minnesota stopped using Peterson in the second half. They had no genuine receiving options and yet they persisted in trying to get a passing game going when their strongest plays of the whole game had been through run.

The Saints have questions over their run defence, and the Vikings have the best running back in the league, it doesn't take a genius to put 2+2 together.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 09 Sep 2010, 20:47
On the one hand, I'm tempted to say that you can't win against top teams in the NFL with just the run. Running Peterson ragged early in the season in a game that I don't really think was as close as the score indicated-- if the Saints had persisted in making it a shoot out, there's no way the Vikes would have kept up-- doesn't really make sense to me. On the other, I have never liked Childress so let's go with him being an idiot.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 09 Sep 2010, 21:11
It'd help if Favre had receivers. When the top receiver on your team is the tight end you need to fix something.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 10 Sep 2010, 08:40
Yeah, game was a bit of a let down. However:

-It was the first game I watched with my son (10 days old).
-Yay! Football is back!

Other than that ... disappointing opener.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 10 Sep 2010, 11:15
I wouldn't bet on it. He had 19 carries, a few catches, and without Taylor around there's less motivation to swap him out on 3rd downs. Even Chris Johnson didn't average out to more than 25 carries last year and he broke 2k yards. Until the Vikings start sniffing the end zone again you're probably boned.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 10 Sep 2010, 11:45
Additionally the only other game really worth watching this week is Jets/Ravens, and even that's kind of meh. I'll watch Bears/Lions of course, but man.

Also I'm not excited to lose to the Lions.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 10 Sep 2010, 12:13
The funniest thing about the Lions is that I can say I'm optimistic about their odds of doubling that win total without sounding completely insane. After all, that's still only 4 wins.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 10 Sep 2010, 21:40
I'm super excited for football season this year, partially because this is going the best team the Niners have had in years. Our draft looked great on paper and has turned out even better in preseason: a lot of the late round picks have turned out really well too. Glen Coffee abruptly retired to do God's work or whatever, but it looks like we found an even better backup for Gore in Anthony Davis. Seriously, look at this fucking stiffarm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IboUlX9Bdw).

Alex Smith was playing a lot better by the end of last season, and more importantly he'll have much better blocking now. Between the upgrades to the O-line, having Crabtree for the full season, and a healthy Gore ready to go, the offense should play much better. I think this team needs one more good draft (preferably a corner and DE) before they're serious Super Bowl contenders, but they have an absurdly soft schedule this year and should walk away with the division.

Also Alex, I bet you're happy that the Vikes aren't playing the Niners in the regular season after this:

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9144/u6io5.gif)

That's just how Patrick Willis rolls, motherfuckers.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 11 Sep 2010, 15:34
That's just nasty ... I'll be watching the niners with slightly less disdain from now on.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Patrick on 11 Sep 2010, 16:45
Where the fuck were the Giants today

I mean shit we had bases loaded and bam, double play.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 11 Sep 2010, 17:50
Wasting great starting pitching and grounding into double plays?

Yeah, that sounds like the Giants alright.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 11 Sep 2010, 20:04
Speaking of sacks, I'm a bit curious/worried to see how the Lion's defensive line will be this year. Even if Suh doesn't make an immediate splash they still added Vanden Bosch.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Sep 2010, 07:46
i see him getting ejected from the league after brutally decapitating brent favre

worth it

QUICK QUIZ: Justify to me why the fuck the NFL season is only 16 fucking games long, every team doesn't even play every other team, why is yr sport such a bunch of weak shit. What is the deal with that
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 Sep 2010, 11:53
That was a textbook sack by Peppers, gotta hand it to him. My respect for that guy has always been kinda grudging though since I've seen both too many games where he's clearly the best guy out there and too many games where he doesn't really seem to give a crap.

Anyway, we'd run out of linemen if we had seasons that were as long as that of many other sports. Rugby is also very physical and has just as impressive tackles, but the blocking rules are a saving grace that keep it from being quite so bad, since the players are smaller in general and face less double and triple teams and less gang tackles (tackles are rather overrated as a source of injury in the NFL). In rugby, pretty much everyone is treated as a potential ball carrier and runs with the play until its eventual completion but gridiron doesn't really work like that. Hell, there's outright restrictions on who can pass the neutral zone after a forward pass-- the big guys would be stuck watching the play even if they were theoretically fast enough to keep up with it. That's why there is hyper specialization in the NFL with guys who weigh 270+ pounds and can't run a 40 yard dash in under 5 seconds are considered standard equipment on every team.  And all they do is slam into each other and cut block every down. Autopsies have shown that several football players who died young (again, typically lineman, since they are very heavy men who are also very active) had brain damage on par with Alzheimer's patients, which probably explains why a few of them were homeless or considered unemployable despite being in their 40s or 50s. If anything the seasons should be a game or two shorter and practices should become more restricted. As it is the quality of play already suffers a fair bit due to the injury rates even if you toss out the ethical concerns.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 12 Sep 2010, 12:33
Yeah, if the NFL season was any longer than it is, the playoffs wouldn't depend on who was the best team, just who had the fewest players on IR. As for why every team doesn't play every other team, there are 32 teams in the NFL, there's no way they could make that work on a weekly schedule.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 Sep 2010, 12:40
Lovie Smith cracks me up.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 Sep 2010, 13:14
Congratulations on the moral loss Bears fans!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 Sep 2010, 14:03
Ha, I'd hardly consider myself boned with Peterson.

Missed that earlier. I just meant you were probably boned if you genuinely expected to see him get that many more touches. He didn't really have THAT many touches last year either, but it didn't matter since the offense was so good that he got to finish off a lot of drives. Maybe they will feed him more often, but I suspect that will only happen of the offense continues to suck. That probably just means an extra 10 or 20 yards a game but considerably less touchdowns, like back in '08.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Sep 2010, 15:56
Congratulations on the moral loss Bears fans!

Dear lord that was the worst call I've seen since the Seahawks-Steelers Super Bowl. What the everloving fuck. I was in a sports bar when it happened and literally everyone, even the other Bears fans, were like "Really? Did that just fucking happen?"

If anyone deserved to lose that game it's us. The saddest part is that it was one of J-Cutty's better games with the franchise. This is gonna be a long damn year.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 12 Sep 2010, 16:35
I would feel better about it if that call hadn't happened to the Lions. It's like seeing someone kick a three legged puppy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 12 Sep 2010, 16:37
Yes ... poor lion puppy ...

However, happy news? How about them Colts? That made me giggle.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Sep 2010, 16:46
Yeah that was awesome. Fuck the Colts.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KaosPilot on 13 Sep 2010, 16:01
Imma watch my first NFL game properly tonight, with a football fan explaining it to me. I've had my boss tell me all about the Tennessee Volunteers in college football and I'm slowly getting into it.

Also, Rangers are going to be absolutely and comprehensively destroyed by Manchester United tomorrow.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 14 Sep 2010, 02:54
Jets lose, Ravens won.

All-in-all .... I'm happy with week one.

Bengals lose, eventhough they have two amazing reality TV stars on their team. Colts lose. Always fun to see a Manning lose. Jets lose. I was getting tired of that hype ... Cowboys lose! No idea why people see them as such a good team if they can't even decide to take a knee at the right time ... now,if only the giants could have tanked ... but nothing is ever perfect.

Pats win! (I like 'em). Ravens win! (though, frankly ... not by much). Redskins win! (Though frankly ... not by much).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Sep 2010, 09:45
Taking a break from the struggles of being a Manchester United fan for a moment. I got tickets to the Patriots-Ravens game on October 17th. Should be a fun time!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 14 Sep 2010, 12:18
everybody loses

You forgot that Kansas City beat San Diego. That made me so fucking happy. Fuck the Chargers. Phillip Rivers can't get drained of blood fast enough for me.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 14 Sep 2010, 13:06
Really? Why?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 14 Sep 2010, 13:51
Also, Rangers are going to be absolutely and comprehensively destroyed by Manchester United tomorrow.

Nope, ended goalless.
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Post by: amok on 14 Sep 2010, 14:14
Have to say, while I fully expected Rangers' gameplan to consist of nothing beyond 'put so many men between Man U and the goal that they cannot see the goal and they forget there is a goal and eventually just kinda wander off,' I didn't expect it to work.
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Post by: tommydski on 14 Sep 2010, 14:21
Lest we forget Old Trafford last year -

(http://i45.tinypic.com/p0is2.gif)
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Post by: amok on 14 Sep 2010, 14:22
Never, that game was fucking awesome.
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Post by: amok on 15 Sep 2010, 12:38
Arsenal are bossing SC Braga and Chelsea are strolling it as usual. Dunno what all the fuss was about last night, this Champions League lark is easy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Sep 2010, 10:31
Have to say, while I fully expected Rangers' gameplan to consist of nothing beyond 'put so many men between Man U and the goal that they cannot see the goal and they forget there is a goal and eventually just kinda wander off,' I didn't expect it to work.

Sunderland nearly pulled that off against us a year or two ago, as well. But in that case, Vidic managed to head one in with about 5 minutes left.
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Post by: tommydski on 16 Sep 2010, 11:30
Whereas Leeds won by outplaying you in every area of the pitch for ninety plus minutes.
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Post by: amok on 16 Sep 2010, 11:47
Didn't Barnsley tonk you lot the other day? In Football Logic I'm sure that makes Barnsley objectively 5x better than Manchester United.
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Post by: tommydski on 16 Sep 2010, 11:58
Well, for one thing it's a different team now and secondly Barnsley dominated that game for about ten minutes in total which is when they scored the decisive goals.
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Post by: Inlander on 16 Sep 2010, 16:20
At this point I'd like to announce that it's come to my attention that QPR are currently clear on top in the Championship, having won five of their six games.
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Post by: amok on 16 Sep 2010, 23:42
If Chelsea and QPR don't win their respective leagues at a canter I'll be extremely surprised.
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Post by: Spluff on 16 Sep 2010, 23:48
oh god please not collingwood
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Post by: tommydski on 17 Sep 2010, 03:44
If Chelsea and QPR don't win their respective leagues at a canter I'll be extremely surprised.

Yeah, Chelsea should do it again. They cut out some of the deadwood, received the (temporary) boon of a fully fit Michael Essien and added that lad Ramires (who will be excellent once he's acclimatised). Even with injuries and setbacks, their squad is very good. When you've got players like Kalou, Benayoun, Zhirkov, Ivanovic, Bosingwa etc ready to come in, not to mention the handful of gifted youngsters they used in Europe the other night, you should be looking at least a domestic double.
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Post by: amok on 17 Sep 2010, 09:50
Exactly. Their firepower is terrifying; Drogba is a rare example of a striker hitting his peak form at an age when most strikers are either permacrocked or on a steady decline, and even if he loses a few weeks, Anelka and Sturridge are plenty capable of stepping up to the plate. That squad must be the envy of managers worldwide.

Still don't think they'll win the chumps league for some reason.

Far more exciting in EPL terms is the battle for 2nd between Arsenal and Man Utd, and (by far the least predictable) the hoedown for the remaining European spots between Spurs, Villa, Man City, Everton, Blackpool* and Liverpool (listed in decreasing order of likelihood to qualify). Should be a crackin' season.

*okay the table as it stands might not last but if the thought of Ian Holloway tearing through the European elite with a team of rugged journeymen on 50p a week doesn't fill you with glee, you have no soul
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 17 Sep 2010, 12:57
Far more exciting in EPL terms is the battle for 2nd between Arsenal and Man Utd, and (by far the least predictable) the hoedown for the remaining European spots between Spurs, Villa, Man City, Everton, and Liverpool (listed in decreasing order of likelihood to qualify). Should be a crackin' season.

Really? Aston Villa and Everton better placed to finish above Liverpool this season? I know the squad is not the best by far but Villa are on a downward spiral and Everton can never* keep it up for a whole season.

*Ok, just that once.
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Post by: amok on 17 Sep 2010, 13:02
Villa I think can turn it around now that the managerial situation's sorted. Everton really depends on how quickly they arrest the traditional early-season slump and push on. They really should do better this season with Arteta fit from the start but that's just on paper, they always start mysteriously slow.

Reckon it'll be real close 'round those spots anyway.

(also have to admit that's not taking 'pool's new signings into account as I hadn't really seen much of Meireles or Joey C in a red shirt; by all accounts both have started impressively so could be a marked improvement there if Torres stays fit and N'gog keeps chipping in with the odd goal)
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Post by: jwhouk on 17 Sep 2010, 20:00
And in the "Good News" department: NHL Training Camps started this week. Season starts in three weeks.

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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Sep 2010, 07:25
Indeed! NESN ran a two-hour special opening up the Bruins training camp the other night. I'm pretty excited about this season.
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Post by: scarred on 18 Sep 2010, 14:34
bears cowboys tomorrow

no way am i gonna be drunk enough for this
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Sep 2010, 15:42
I'm going to continue my tradition of trolling everyone with Flyers for the Cup. Hell, it almost worked last season.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 19 Sep 2010, 02:48
bears cowboys tomorrow

no way am i gonna be drunk enough for this
That much incompetence on one field should be hilarious to watch ...
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Post by: Aurjay on 19 Sep 2010, 09:33
any Jaguar fans? probably not since our own town doesn't even seem to be fans. Jacksonville's unofficial motto lately seems to be "well at least we have the Gators". Its sad and if it doesn't change I'm sure we will losing the franchise very soon. 
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Post by: Alex C on 19 Sep 2010, 10:53
That Harvin red zone interception nearly gave me a seizure.
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Post by: Alex C on 19 Sep 2010, 11:03
I mean, being a Vikings fan has given me a pretty good tolerance for flukey, bullshit plays going against my team, but I still have limits. That ball had more time to bobble than Favre took to decide where to pass.
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Post by: jwhouk on 19 Sep 2010, 18:26
any Jaguar fans? probably not since our own town doesn't even seem to be fans. Jacksonville's unofficial motto lately seems to be "well at least we have the Gators". Its sad and if it doesn't change I'm sure we will losing the franchise very soon. 
(peeks behind me at this funny black helmet with a spotted cat on it)
(peeks over at my BRUNELL 8 jersey hanging in my closet)

...Nah. I'm not a Jags fan. Just because I've heard "Uh-oh Jaguars" (and hated it because of the hubris). Just because Fred Taylor, Keenan McCardell, Brunell and Jimmy Smith were regularly on my fantasy football teams. Just because I've considered drafting Maurice Jones-Drew several times over the last few years.

And just because I know the first joke ever told about the franchise: "Two minutes after the team's first schedule was announced, wags in Florida put them as a one-point favorite over Tampa in their first matchup."

Nope. I'm a Packers fan. Sorry.

(Oh, and ignore the USFL Bulls helmet on my desk.)
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Post by: scarred on 19 Sep 2010, 20:35
holy shit

the bears looked... good

cutler was still on the ground more than i'd like, but i feel like if he actually had more time to throw he'd make more mistakes. when he goes with his gut he's great, he has a tendency to overthink.

2-0 woooooooooooooooo
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Post by: Alex C on 19 Sep 2010, 21:30
It's kinda too bad that the Packers are still the elephant in the room though. They could have just stood pat with a nice leisurely home win against the Bills but instead they decided to destroy an inferior team just in case anyone got ideas.
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Post by: Alex C on 19 Sep 2010, 21:36
I guess what I'm trying to say here is that I wish the Vikings played in the NFC West instead of a real division.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 20 Sep 2010, 05:55
Go Juddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Brownlows and shots of Rebecca Twigley's bottom for all.
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Post by: Inlander on 20 Sep 2010, 05:59
Sounds like one and the same to me!
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Post by: Aurjay on 20 Sep 2010, 06:01
jwhouk: its ok to be a closet Jags fan most people are. It's embarrassing especially when you have games like yesterday. The names you mentioned aside from MJD were from a golden era of Jags football that they have never even gotten close to replicating. Brunell went on to backup QB and actually get a ring for it. Coughlin got a ring after leaving the Jags as well. So are we just cursed? Who knows but I'll keep supporting them till we find out.
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Post by: Spluff on 20 Sep 2010, 06:14
The Brownlow debacle is just another in the huge pile of reasons that the majority of AFL umpires need to be replaced. Judd shouldn't have polled any more than half the votes he actually got.

The only redeeming feature of the whole night was the look on Eddie's face.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 20 Sep 2010, 06:28
It' the same as with Goodse's wins, they absolutely carried their team and there isn't anybody in the team that comes close, so they get the votes. Swan probably should have won but the talent in Collingwood is just that much better on average and you get 'stolen' votes.

Nice to see Eddie suffer though, always a plus.
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Post by: scarred on 20 Sep 2010, 14:31
I guess what I'm trying to say here is that I wish the Vikings played in the NFC West instead of a real division.

it literally just became a real division again though, so i guess there's that?

it hurt me to see the vikings lose to miami, even more so when i looked at the game recap. woof.

and the niners are gonna get murdered tonight, so, yay?
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Post by: Alex C on 20 Sep 2010, 14:40
It was a brutal one for a lot of the fair weather vikings fans I hang out with, yeah. For some reason, they just don't seem to understand that the Vikings are traditionally not a poor football team but rather that they are frontrunners and choke artists. That's a subtle but crucial difference. It meant that when the Vikings climbed back into it I wasn't really surprised-- In terms of yardage our offense was actually doing pretty well, so it's not like it was a shock to see them get back in the red zone-- but neither was I really surprised when they failed to seal the deal AGAIN. My brother-in-law though? I think by the end of the game he was ready to set himself on fire.

Anyway, I don't really expect the Vikings to be cover your eyes awful like a lot of people will whine, but I do think this is a REALLY bad year to spot the Packers and Bears 2 games. Neither of you guys exactly have a murderous schedule.
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Post by: scarred on 20 Sep 2010, 18:44
speaking of which, i just found out that this coming monday is Packers-Bears.

ffffffuuuuuuuuuu

we look good but not that good. jesus
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Post by: Alex C on 20 Sep 2010, 19:59
Yeah, Clay Matthews has been playing like he's secretly Thor's ugly little brother. Good luck with that.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Sep 2010, 09:36
I'm going to continue my tradition of trolling everyone with Flyers for the Cup. Hell, it almost worked last season.

Hey, hey Rob.

Psst.


Berbatov. :-D
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 21 Sep 2010, 11:50
Hey, hey Rob.

Psst.


Berbatov. :-D

Hey, hey Shane.

Hey, shut up.  :x
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Post by: Spluff on 24 Sep 2010, 17:41
just boarding up my windows and doors for when the tides of Collingwood supporters hit the streets

[edit]

what

what
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Post by: McTaggart on 25 Sep 2010, 01:58
Oh wow.

Australia: least decisive nation '010.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 25 Sep 2010, 02:18
How good was Maxwell's 'few words' to the crowd? And how at the siren they all just sort of lay down.
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Post by: Inlander on 25 Sep 2010, 02:29
Mainly I liked how at the end of the game none of the commentators bothered to explain what would happen next. I was sitting with a bunch of friends and none of us knew whether there was going to be extra time or not, and we were waiting for the commentators - you know, those people who are paid to know everything about the game and explain it to the peopel watching - to tell us, and there was just silence. Thanks Bruce McAveney, I'd temporarily forgotten how useless you are.
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Post by: Lunchbox on 25 Sep 2010, 17:09
I watched sport last night! I've never watched a whole game before, or payed much attention.
Our local rugby league team (GO TIGERS) was playing the finals qualifier so we went to the pub up the road which was completely packed and drank delicious local pale ale and cheered and booed and stuff.
We lost by one point due to a field goal by the other team, and were within about two metres of scoring a try in the last minute, which would have made us win, which was pretty nailbiting.

Also: Rugby League is fucked up, you guys.


SPORTS
CAN BE INTERESTING
WHO KNEW
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Post by: Spluff on 25 Sep 2010, 18:52
Mainly I liked how at the end of the game none of the commentators bothered to explain what would happen next. I was sitting with a bunch of friends and none of us knew whether there was going to be extra time or not, and we were waiting for the commentators - you know, those people who are paid to know everything about the game and explain it to the peopel watching - to tell us, and there was just silence. Thanks Bruce McAveney, I'd temporarily forgotten how useless you are.

Surely anybody who didn't know what was going to happen was tipped off by Maxwell's hissy fit.

It was very interesting to see the differing reactions of the two teams, with the Saints very positive and the Pies (or at least the skipper) very negative, especially when you consider that if it had gone into extra time St Kilda would almost certainly have come out as winners.
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Post by: Yayniall on 25 Sep 2010, 19:31
fuck yes manchester city.
=)
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Post by: amok on 26 Sep 2010, 11:23
no guys it's fine we don't need a keeper we have a spanish paedophile *loses to west brom at home* fuck
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Post by: jwhouk on 26 Sep 2010, 15:54
jwhouk: its ok to be a closet Jags fan most people are. It's embarrassing especially when you have games like yesterday. The names you mentioned aside from MJD were from a golden era of Jags football that they have never even gotten close to replicating. Brunell went on to backup QB and actually get a ring for it. Coughlin got a ring after leaving the Jags as well. So are we just cursed? Who knows but I'll keep supporting them till we find out.
I blame that stupid "Uh-oh Jaguars" rap they did before the AFC title game.

And Vikings fans should have known what they were getting when The Diva From Kiln chose to wear purple. One TD up, two INT's back.
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Post by: Alex C on 26 Sep 2010, 16:04
It doesn't help that Jacksonville is both sprawling and relatively unpopulated. I mean, it's half the size of the Minneapolis-St.Paul metro area and has a quarter of the population-- and the Twin Cities are considered "small market" and as major metro areas go it's not very crowded. Jacksonville seems like a nice enough place to live and all but frankly I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to put a team there. I just don't see how that works unless you've got a team that's won a hojillion NFL championships like the Packers.
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Post by: scarred on 26 Sep 2010, 19:51
speaking of whom, i'm pretty terrified of what tomorrow will bring. i'm expecting no less than cutler's decapitation.

at least the chargers managed to bengal bungle their way into a seahawks victory. that game was messy, but those two kickoff TDs were great. plus: philip rivers pissed = priceless.
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Post by: jwhouk on 26 Sep 2010, 19:55
I'd personally like a 51-48 win. Only because I've got Aaron as my QB in fantasyland, while my opponent (and the league commisioner) has the Packer D.
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Post by: Aurjay on 26 Sep 2010, 19:58
Jacksonville had a huge stadium already in place for the Fl GA game so it prolly seemed an easy fit. We had the Super Bowl and everyone doubted us but we pulled it off very well actually. Problem is a huge majority of Jacksonville's population is transient because they are all Navy. So they really don't have any loyalty to the jaguars. It also sucks that we have a losing season every year. Fun Fact: Duval County is the largest county by area in the United States but your right our population is sprawled out badly because of it.
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Post by: Alex C on 26 Sep 2010, 21:25
No offense, but that's not what I heard at all from the people I know who went. They'd say something like "Everyone was nice but..." and then it'd segue into a story about hotels being overbooked, not enough cab service and ATMs that capped transactions at $100 and then gouged you per withdrawal.
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Post by: Aurjay on 26 Sep 2010, 22:23
Really? Seemed in the news people were pleasantly surprised at how well we did. I went to the parties leading up to the game and everything was great. Granted i lived locally so I didn't have to worry about hotels or anything. I get the taxi complaint since we don't have many and they take forever to pick you up. ATM surcharges and withdrawal limits i don't get since I was able to take 300 out no problem and paying 1.50-2.00 is normal. Anyway I love Jacksonville even with all its problems just too bad our team sucks.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2010, 15:24
It's weird wanting the Bears to win since Cutler is kinda fun to root against.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Sep 2010, 16:02
(http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/LOL-FIRST-SULK.jpg)

but in all seriousness i am wearing my cutler jersey right goddamn meow.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2010, 17:03
In a fucked up way, I love having unlikeable players on my teams, especially when they do well. It makes defiantly waving your junk at other fanbases all the sweeter. Even so, Cutler might be a bit much. If I had my pick of douchey QBs, I'd take Rivers. Less sulking, more just being a dick.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2010, 17:48
I had just about talked myself into the Bears really having a chance and then they showed Lovie on the sideline.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2010, 20:48
The Packers lost 150+ yards on penalties. Nice.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Sep 2010, 21:12
So basically that was the Bears and the Packers vs. Aaron Rodgers.

3-0. I'm ok with this, if our receivers stop dropping TD passes and our defense can actually cover a receiver for a change.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Sep 2010, 21:13
I am pretty convinced Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL. I've at least suspected that for a while now since I took him for my fantasy team last year. It pains me.
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Post by: jwhouk on 27 Sep 2010, 21:56
There is only one team that can beat the Green Bay Packers right now.


...The Green Bay Packers.

(mumblemumbleEIGHTTEENfrigginPENALTIESmumblemumble)
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Post by: scarred on 27 Sep 2010, 22:15
Most penalties by GB in a single game in 55 years.

And yeah, Rodgers has been the best QB in the league since last year. As the years progress he's only going to get better. Which is a little scary.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Sep 2010, 23:26
bears-chiefs superbowl. book it. done
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Sep 2010, 10:15
So wait a minute. According to ESPNews this morning, the AFL title game ended in a tie?

Wooohoo, shrimp on the barbie and participation trophies for everyone!
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Post by: McTaggart on 28 Sep 2010, 11:01
Yeah. They're gonna try again this weekend though.
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Post by: Inlander on 28 Sep 2010, 17:17
The A.F.L. still does things the old-fashioned way, because it's so unlikely that a game will end in a draw. Apparently in 102 years of competition there have only ever been 3 drawn Grand Finals. Though they hastily created a new rule on Monday allowing for extra time time in the Grand Final replay if that should end in a draw, too. Incidentally, the last (and only, I think) time St. Kilda won a Grand Final, it was also agaisnt Collingwood - and they only won it by one point.

Meanwhile Melbourne's kind of been thrown into chaos by this whole rematch thing. The Grand Final is such an unimaginably huge day in the Melbourne calendar that basically nothing happens on the Saturday on which it's held - which means that a lot of things are planned for the Saturday after. Now all those events - hundreds of auctions, weddings, anything else you can imagine - have been postponed because everyone will be watching the rematch.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2010, 07:32
Weddings schmeddings. When my uncle got married during the 08 ALCS, we just moved the TV outside.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 30 Sep 2010, 23:33
I've been a fan of Rodgers since he played for Cal. All you chumps are johnny come latelys.

In all seriousness, with the sweep of the Diamondbacks tonight (despite a surprisingly shaky outing from Bumgarner) and the Padres' shutout against the Cubs, the Giants have clinched at least a tie for the division title. They only need one win in the final 3 game series against the Padres to win outright and clinch our first playoff berth since 2003. With Cain on the mound tomorrow, I feel pretty good about our chances. I do feel kind of bad for the Pads though, they played shockingly good baseball for about 80% of the season when nobody had any expectations for them whatsoever. For them to miss the postseason entirely after all that kinda sucks.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Oct 2010, 01:24
I'd be a million times more talkative and enthusiastic about baseball if the Mauer-Morneau combo were healthier.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 01 Oct 2010, 01:45
I don't watch a lot of AL baseball but it sounds like the Twins rotation is totally gassed at this point too. Shame, since it looks like they'll be playing the Yankees first round and I always like seeing 250 million dollars get them a quick exit from the postseason.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 02 Oct 2010, 00:36
Finally Pies fans can shut up about 1990.
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Post by: Akima on 02 Oct 2010, 18:50
Finally Pies fans can shut up about 1990.
Do Pies fans (or any other Aussie Drools tragics) ever shut up?  :evil:
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Post by: Spluff on 02 Oct 2010, 18:54
Aussie Drools

Did you really just say that?
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Post by: Inlander on 02 Oct 2010, 21:29
Finally Pies fans can shut up about 1990.
Do Pies fans ever shut up?

When they're hung over the Sunday after, yes they do.

(I seem to have moved into an area with an extremely high density of Collingwood supporters. It's blissfully quiet today.)
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 03 Oct 2010, 03:01
Also, bastard Centrals win their tenth SANFL premiership in 11 years. I don't want to live on this planet any more.
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Oct 2010, 12:48
If the Lions somehow pull out a win against the Packers I'll be so excited I could play a trumpet with my cock.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 03 Oct 2010, 16:02
Hey ... Michael Vick got injured and can't continue. Let's take him out back and shoot him.
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Oct 2010, 16:14
Kinda sucks. I was hoping he'd stay healthy.
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Oct 2010, 16:17
I mean, the deep irony here is that a lot of people really don't care about the health of athletes, so while I kinda know what you're getting at, I still find the subject depressing all around.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 03 Oct 2010, 17:16
Any other player I'd be right there with you. Injuries are just ... scary, to see, to have and in the NFL, let's face it, to play with.

However, in this specific case my sentiments are a definite 'meh, whatevs'.
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Oct 2010, 17:28
I just didn't like the way the Vick thing went down in a lot of ways. I believe it was right to prosecute him criminally but I think a lot of the subtext around the whole thing was pretty ugly. I can't help but think that the animal cruelty=automatically evil person thing is ignoring a whole mess of social variables here. I get that there's a correlation between animal abuse and sociopathic behavior but at the same time a lot of the animal abuse people are talking about in that context isn't socially sanctioned-- guys like Jeffrey Dahmer collect roadkill despite their environment whereas with Vick dogfighting happened in part because of his environment. That doesn't excuse his behavior, of course, but the ferocity with which a lot of people speak about the situation has alienated an awful lot of people and probably has done as much harm as it has good.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 03 Oct 2010, 18:44
woooooooooooooo playoff basebaaaaaaaaall

We're gonna get our asses kicked by Philly even if we do manage to beat the Braves, but it's the first time in seven years so I don't give a shit.
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Post by: scarred on 03 Oct 2010, 20:52
ugh

just, ugh
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Post by: Alex C on 03 Oct 2010, 22:07
Between this and the Lions game I'm pretty convinced that that any 4-3 team with a pulse can drink Jay Cutler's milkshake. He holds the ball too long and if there's two bodies on Kreutz suddenly you guys don't have an o-line anymore.

Anyway, I never really thought McNabb was the problem in Philly, so I thoroughly enjoyed the epic fashion in which Andy Reid shit the bed today. I'm sure the guy's a great teacher since the Eagles never really seem to lack for talent, but with his clock management skills I wouldn't let that guy microwave leftover pizza much less coach a football team.
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Post by: McTaggart on 04 Oct 2010, 04:29
Oh man test cricket I have missed you so much.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Oct 2010, 12:59
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Ryder Cup!

Suck it Amurrka!
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Oct 2010, 13:43
No gloating, guy who likes a team currently in a relegation spot.

The US couldn't even bring rain gear that was waterproof. You expected them to play decent golf?


(Seriously. Halfway through the first day they had to buy new rain gear from the clubhouse shop)
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Oct 2010, 14:03
 :-(

Thing is though, they chose to play that big money event in the USA before playing the Ryder Cup so they should have known that the UK in October means torrential rain around 50% of the time and in Wales it's more like 60%.
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Post by: jwhouk on 05 Oct 2010, 06:11
woooooooooooooo playoff basebaaaaaaaaall

We're gonna get our asses kicked by Philly even if we do manage to beat the Braves, but it's the first time in seven years so I don't give a shit.

Giants fan, I take it?
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Oct 2010, 09:32
Fuck that, the Giants are taking everything in site.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Oct 2010, 12:07
woooooooooooooo playoff basebaaaaaaaaall

We're gonna get our asses kicked by Philly even if we do manage to beat the Braves, but it's the first time in seven years so I don't give a shit.

Giants fan, I take it?

Yup. I've been up and down a lot this season but I love this goddamn team, I was ready to give up on them about half a dozen times this season but they pulled it out. I'm trying not to get my hopes up, because the Giants have been a very schizophrenic team all year. Unless we get absurdly lucky we're not getting past the NLCS, but if Cincy can knock off the Phillies in a short series then who knows?

Also Alex, it looks like Morneau's concussion might be serious enough to force him into retirement. It's a shame, but way too many athletes play through concussions and end up paying for it later in life, if the diagnosis is as bad as it sounds he's making the right choice.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Oct 2010, 15:14
Yeah, better to opt for health over money.

It's too bad if he does retire, though. Morneau's so fun to watch play.
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Post by: Alex C on 05 Oct 2010, 16:25
Yeah, that whole thing is pretty big news here so I've mostly been trying not to think about it. Shitty part is there's always the offchance it's already permanent. And from a purely selfish point of view, yeah, the guy really was fun to watch. He was really killing the ball this year too. He seemed like a mortal lock to crank out 50 doubles and 30 homers at times. God damn it.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2010, 10:59
Randy Moss again? Wait, what?
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Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2010, 12:51
Cutler is on the practice field! Hooray, he's not dead!

Well, yet.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 06 Oct 2010, 16:23
Roy Halladay is insane. The Phillies really are that good, I just hope that the Yankees or Rangers don't win the AL or I'll have no motivation to watch the World Series.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2010, 19:14
Randy Moss again? Wait, what?

I had no idea what this post was about until now, and I'm still confused. Talk about random.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2010, 19:49
I had first heard rumors yesterday, but I was pretty damn skeptical. The only reason it makes an iota of sense is that different people are running the franchise now. Even that's a bit undermined by the widely believed rumor that ditching Randy's baggage was part of the housecleaning intended to make the team more attractive to buyers.

I like having Randy though. I get that tons of people hate him, but I've never been one of them.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2010, 20:37
Out of all the egocentric receivers in the league, he was always one of the least hateable. He definitely takes a backseat to T.O. and Ochocinco.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2010, 22:20
It helps that at his best he was as good as they thought they were.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2010, 22:33
And he's still not too shabby. (http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2010/09/21/how-rare-was-patriots-wr-randy-moss-one-handed-catch-not-very/) If he and Favre can work up a rhythm you guys have a wild card slot for sure.

(Ok, ok, I know you already did. Wishful thinking...)
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2010, 23:12
I'm not sure if everyone has seen them or not, particularly since like, half the forums was like 12 years old during these games, but the absolute best were his Thanksgiving Day eviscerations of the Dallas Cowboys. With Randy, it's always been about motivation, but he's got a well-publicized grudge against them. People always talk up his one handed catches, but for my money, I'd take this play from his rookie season Thanksgiving game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d5jyfNzgsg&feature=related) Note how that says part 3. That's because he made 3 catches that day. 3 catches for 156 yards yards and 3 touchdowns. I just picked the craziest looking one. The '00 game wasn't really any prettier for the 'boys. This one might be my favorite Randy play ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vS6kgedJY&feature=related) I like to think that game is what convinced Phillippi Sparks to immediately retire once the season ended. Randy Moss is basically my favorite NFL player even if it is against my better judgement. I can't help it. I mean, I was 16 when he entered the league. If anyone was eventually willing to overlook a lack of professionalism it was a drunken early 20s version of Alex C.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2010, 23:22
Those are some great plays. Too bad I was 8 ;-;

I think the thing I realized most from those clips is how much I miss John Madden as a commentator.

Seeing a bummed out Troy Aikman was pretty awesome too.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2010, 23:28
My favorite part is how he draws astonished praise from Pat "Hasn't been excited since the Korean War ended" Summerall.
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Post by: Alex C on 06 Oct 2010, 23:30
I don't mean that as a dig though; if anything, I miss Pat more than I miss Madden.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Oct 2010, 23:35
I miss 'em both, definitely, but Madden's random espousal of complete gibberish near the end of his career is too endearing for me not to let him take the cake. I started really watching football a year or two before Summerall retired, so most of my formative football years were spent with Al Michaels and John Madden in the booth. And Cris Collinsworth just isn't nearly as entertaining.
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Post by: jwhouk on 07 Oct 2010, 06:04
Randy Moss again? Wait, what?

I had no idea what this post was about until now, and I'm still confused. Talk about random.
This would be like Beckham returning to ManU. Except, of course, that Beckham has actually won something in his career. And he hasn't mooned fans at Old Trafford.
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Post by: jwhouk on 07 Oct 2010, 06:33
Oh, by the way, I was at his "coming out" party @ Lambeau his rookie year.

I hated it.
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Post by: scarred on 07 Oct 2010, 12:23
well, shit. (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7160)
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Post by: Alex C on 07 Oct 2010, 13:29
I consider the faux mooning incident to be a net plus. Mostly because the way Joe Buck took it. I understand why people think it's more evidence for the "Randy Moss Is A Git" pile, but if you don't even have a dog in this fight and you're going to get as upset as Joe Buck did, then well, I worry for your health. You might accidentally channel flip over to Jersey Shore and have an aneurysm.
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Post by: scarred on 07 Oct 2010, 13:40
I thought the mooning thing was hilarious. I miss the ridiculous TD dances of the early 00s.
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Post by: Jimor on 07 Oct 2010, 20:41
The case of the counterfeit football (soccer) team. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509830139498188.html)
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Post by: Storm Rider on 08 Oct 2010, 01:53
I love you so much Tim Lincecum. I just wish our offense wouldn't hit into so fucking many double plays.
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Post by: jwhouk on 08 Oct 2010, 02:16
Real or imaginary?
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Oct 2010, 07:19
Randy Moss again? Wait, what?

I had no idea what this post was about until now, and I'm still confused. Talk about random.
This would be like Beckham returning to ManU. Except, of course, that Beckham has actually won something in his career. And he hasn't mooned fans at Old Trafford.

On the contrary. When United played AC Milan at OT last year, there was a picture of Beckham picking up a green & gold scarf and wearing it around after the game.
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Post by: jwhouk on 09 Oct 2010, 18:47
It's HOCKEY NIGHT in North America!
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 10 Oct 2010, 12:13
Pretty sure HOCKEY NIGHT was Thursday when the season started and the next one will be when the Flyers win the Stanley Cup in June.
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Post by: scarred on 10 Oct 2010, 18:56
Packers, Cowboys, Chargers, Saints lose. Bears win, with Matt Forte turning in his strongest performance in a year. Despite 4 interceptions by Todd "I Can't Believe I'm Playing In This Game, What Am I Doing I Am So Old And Awful At Life" Collins. Hate that guy.

Rooting for the 49ers right now just because, despite my respect for Philly, I hate to see any team as talented as SF go 0-5.

Good weekend.
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Post by: Alex C on 10 Oct 2010, 19:16
I can't really think of anything nice to say about the Panthers. I wonder what it is about football teams named after cats and failure.
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Post by: jwhouk on 11 Oct 2010, 06:35
I'm slowly seeing my fantasy football team's season go up in flames.
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Post by: Alex C on 11 Oct 2010, 10:55
I'm just glad that I didn't really have the opportunity to draft any Packers this year. Injuries everywhere.
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Post by: Alex C on 11 Oct 2010, 20:33
Fucking Vikings and fucking Childress. The man and his play calling makes me insane. I swear to god we just spent 3/4s of the game going 3 and out series with 2 runs and a pass on 3rd down, the most predictable offensive philosophy going. I hate that. The NFL is a passing league. It's been a passing league for decades now. The last time it wasn't a passing league was a brief period in the '70s. The one time they mix things up and start passing on 1st and 2nd a bit the Vikings did some good stuff and then topped it off with a patented Randy bomb. Too bad our special teams still suck. hargabahbuablagrable


It would be a million times easier for me if I didn't feel like I was the only one in the state who realizes that Peterson isn't so good that we can hand the fucking ball off to him every down. He is not a god, dammit. I love him, but he's not 6 yards all down hill Terrell Davis, and even he needed Elway.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 11 Oct 2010, 21:15
wooooooo giants

we're gonna get destroyed by philly but i am so happy right now i don't give a shit
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Post by: scarred on 11 Oct 2010, 22:41
Man I'm glad I'm not a Vikings fan. Watching it with a family of them was hard enough.
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Post by: scarred on 11 Oct 2010, 22:41
On the other hand, Jon Gruden thinks Brett Favre throws rainbows.

hehehe
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Post by: Alex C on 11 Oct 2010, 22:52
Hearing Gruden gush about Favre is perhaps the worst part of being a Vikings fan right now. The roller coaster losses are slowly taking years off my life, but Gruden actively makes me feel embarrassed for everyone involved.

Anyway...

VIKINGS!! COWBOYS!! DESPERATION BOWL 2010!!!
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Post by: scarred on 11 Oct 2010, 22:57
It helps that play-to-play Gruden flip-flops from decrying everything about Minnesota's tactics to expounding how amazingly talented each of their players are.
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Post by: Alex C on 11 Oct 2010, 23:29
God, I've been watching bits of the game I missed on DVR and now I keep fantasizing about taking one of our offensive linemen's paychecks and cashing it out into silver dollars. That way I could stuff a bunch of them into a sack and use it to bludgeon them to death. It's ridiculous how badly they're failing to live up to their credentials. And you know what? Adrian Peterson too. It's year 4 and he is still a liability in 3rd down pass protection.

I just read what I wrote and I think maybe I should quit watching football for a while. And drinking whiskey. Probably both. At least not at the same time.
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Post by: scarred on 11 Oct 2010, 23:59
I don't think I'd be able to do either, much less at the same time. Then again, if it meant we got rid of Todd Collins and nabbed some linemen, I might reconsider.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 12 Oct 2010, 01:39
God, I've been watching bits of the game I missed on DVR and now I keep fantasizing about taking one of our offensive linemen's paychecks and cashing it out into silver dollars. That way I could stuff a bunch of them into a sack and use it to bludgeon them to death. It's ridiculous how badly they're failing to live up to their credentials. And you know what? Adrian Peterson too. It's year 4 and he is still a liability in 3rd down pass protection.

I just read what I wrote and I think maybe I should quit watching football for a while. And drinking whiskey. Probably both. At least not at the same time.

Hey man, you could be 0-5. There's a reason why I'm completely focused on baseball right now.
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Post by: Alex C on 12 Oct 2010, 02:23
I am not sure if I'd be any unhappier if the Vikings were 0-5, to be honest. The 49ers commitment to failure this season has been impressive, but the Vikings are better at stringing you along to the end of the game and then punching you right in the dick. Really not sure which is worse. It's really like comparing a debacle to a disaster.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Oct 2010, 10:23
I don't know if bringing back Deion Branch in an attempt to replace Randy Moss is going to work for the Pats, but we shall see.

And more importantly, I will see in person on Sunday. Fun shit!
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Post by: jwhouk on 12 Oct 2010, 13:04
Dear Minnesota,

You've been FAVRED.

Ha ha,
Cheesehead Nation.

P.S. Moss? Srsly?
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Post by: scarred on 12 Oct 2010, 13:23
The one highlight they showed from Branch's career in Seattle was one where he dropped a TD pass. Great job, Pats.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Oct 2010, 13:43
I doubt he'll be as good at pulling defenders off Welker/Hernandez/Gronkowski/Dustin Pedroia's Little Brother* as Moss was this season.



*honestly, who the hell is Danny Woodhead?
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Oct 2010, 15:36
By the way, can we talk about how the holding company that owns the Red Sox is buying Liverpool and I pretty much want to cry and burn all of my Red Sox shirts and hats?

Really. What do I do? My favorite baseball team is buying my favorite football team's biggest rival. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
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Post by: jwhouk on 12 Oct 2010, 22:39
Yankees in four, Phillies in six.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 13 Oct 2010, 05:50
By the way, can we talk about how the holding company that owns the Red Sox is buying Liverpool and I pretty much want to cry and burn all of my Red Sox shirts and hats?

Really. What do I do? My favorite baseball team is buying my favorite football team's biggest rival. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Owner buddies woo! o/
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Oct 2010, 06:00
I'll punch your teeth in, Rob.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 13 Oct 2010, 08:10
Well, now that's not a very nice introduction, is it?
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Oct 2010, 08:16
It'd bad enough that you like Liverpool, but you like the Flyers, and you know precisely why I hate the Flyers and that girlfriend fucking forward they have.

(Rob, we're still bros and stuff. I'm just taking out frustrations)
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Post by: jwhouk on 13 Oct 2010, 17:26
Oh, geez, what's up with you EPL types getting so upset that American sports owners want in on your teams? Look, in America, sports franchises are generally a losing proposition. With the EPL, you guys print money with your game tickets (or whatever you call them). ANY sane person would want in on that.
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Post by: Alex C on 13 Oct 2010, 17:52
Counterpoint: Donald Sterling.
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Oct 2010, 01:25
Aw, c'mon. Stirling and that idiot with the Pirates don't count. They're playing the system.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 14 Oct 2010, 01:56
Oh, geez, what's up with you EPL types getting so upset that American sports owners want in on your teams? Look, in America, sports franchises are generally a losing proposition. With the EPL, you guys print money with your game tickets (or whatever you call them). ANY sane person would want in on that.

Uh, what? Aside from small-market baseball teams, the majority of American sports franchises make a lot of money. Just about every NFL team is profitable, and I think most NBA teams are too. If you're talking about stuff like the NHL or MLS, then that's different, but those aren't as big in America as ECL is in the UK so it's not a valid comparison.
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Oct 2010, 02:13
You can and usually do lose money in MLB. There are only a handful of teams that are making $ hand over fist, and one of them is the team that you're talking about buying L'pool.

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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Oct 2010, 05:50
Oh, geez, what's up with you EPL types getting so upset that American sports owners want in on your teams? Look, in America, sports franchises are generally a losing proposition. With the EPL, you guys print money with your game tickets (or whatever you call them). ANY sane person would want in on that.

Because under Malcolm Glazer, United posted an 85 million pound loss last year and are in buttloads of debt?

That said, I mean..Randy Lerner's doing a hell of a job with Aston Villa, aside from the KMac/Houllier nonsense.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 14 Oct 2010, 07:15
To jwhouk: The problem is that in football the transfer system is markedly different to any of the sports in the USA. Teams are not franchises that move on a whim when the money from the fans isn't coming in and there is no college system that brings new talent through in a draft to keep the costs down so players can transfer between clubs for millions of pounds/euros/dollars etc. and then expect to be paid a hefty sum each week on top (example being that Liverpool paid £26.5 million for Fernando Torres and his wages are around £120,000 a week). With no salary cap it is important to have stable finances to keep these kinds of players as they are the ones who win you trophies and titles and bringing in debt to start with then siphoning off cash to line your own pockets while the club struggles to repay just the interest on these debts is not a done thing.

Shane: Randy Lerner is the (almost) perfect example of what an American should be doing with a football club. He went to Villa, paid off their debts and now runs the club with stable finances and still is able to give them money for transfers (although not as much as some delusional fans would apparently like). The O'Neill/Houllier saga was coming for a while really because Villa haven't really been going anywhere after failing to really capitalise on Liverpool's awful season last year and with the crapload of bids they get for Ashley Young whenever the transfer windows come around.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 Oct 2010, 13:39
Finally the Liverpool saga seems to be over (barring another Texas Court injunction though it's unlikely as they have no jurisdiction here and the High Court has made its decision) and NESV have taken over.

Owner buddies for realz now Shane! o/
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Post by: jwhouk on 15 Oct 2010, 16:44
Okay, Ugly American here asking a question I don't understand: How in the world do EPL and other top Euro clubs find new talent to help them win all those trophies, make money, keep from being demoted, etc.?
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Post by: Spluff on 15 Oct 2010, 17:26
By throwing money at them...
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 Oct 2010, 17:28
All clubs run their own programs, often called Academies that are designed to bring through the next players for the first team squad but for a team to get to the top and stay there it's generally a case of who buys the best young players from the best Academy systems. One notable exception being Barcelona who have possibly the best Academy system in all of football.

You might ask, why don't clubs just use their own young players, surely it would be better that way?
It's a good question but with money so ingrained into all ways of football now the better teams are the ones that generally cost the most.

As an NHL fan aswell, I really do admire the draft system and salary caps and the way young talent can be nurtured in American sports but with having promotion/relegation so that teams change divisions every season you could end up with a young star (#1 draft pick for example) going to the team that finishes bottom of the league and then doesn't get a chance to play in the top division unless they're bought by a big club which kind of defeats the object.
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Post by: Alex C on 15 Oct 2010, 21:15
I just wanted to mention that I'm terrified for Colt McCoy. I understand that he'll have to play the Steelers sometime, but I still think it should be a law that you can't start rookie QBs against a team prominently featuring an All-Pro linebacker nicknamed Deebo. The sick part is that he isn't even their best defensive player.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 15 Oct 2010, 22:12
The Rangers just gave that game away, Jesus Christ. It's a good thing I hate both teams I'd be pretty pissed right now.
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Post by: Inlander on 16 Oct 2010, 03:23
Okay, Ugly American here asking a question I don't understand: How in the world do EPL and other top Euro clubs find new talent to help them win all those trophies, make money, keep from being demoted, etc.?

Do you mean where does the talent come from? Or how do they find it? They have talent scouts and academies which train players from childhood for the latter, not to mention the fact that every few years there are useful tournaments such as the World Cup or the European Championships or the African Championships which among other things are opportunities for players to demonstrate their skills to perspective employers.

As for the former, well - you do realise how many people in how many countries play soccer, right?
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Post by: Storm Rider on 16 Oct 2010, 21:59
We beat Halladay wooooooooo

I love baseball so much right now guys, you don't even know
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Post by: jwhouk on 17 Oct 2010, 06:25
Do you mean where does the talent come from? Or how do they find it? They have talent scouts and academies which train players from childhood for the latter, not to mention the fact that every few years there are useful tournaments such as the World Cup or the European Championships or the African Championships which among other things are opportunities for players to demonstrate their skills to perspective employers.

As for the former, well - you do realise how many people in how many countries play soccer, right?
I was essentially asking both, but more towards the latter.

And YES I realize that the rest of the world plays association football more than we do in the US. I mean, the only way soccer gets billing on SportsCenter's top plays is if a.) there's nothing else going on in sports that night, and b.) something weird happens, like the goaltender scoring a goal on a free kick.  (http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/goalkeeper-william-hesmer-scores-dramatic-goal)
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Oct 2010, 13:18
Jay Cutler is getting knocked around so much that I can't even enjoy it anymore.
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Post by: scarred on 17 Oct 2010, 15:49
Yeah. He just looks frustrated, and he's not the only one. There was more than one play where I saw one of our offensive linemen completely ignore his blocking assignment and just hang out. Ugh.

This was awesome though. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcAxbxx9yo) Especially for the insane block at 0:55.
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Post by: Alex C on 17 Oct 2010, 16:16
I must say, I like the NFC North standings much better today than I did last week. I thought the Seattle game was going to be a gimme.
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Post by: scarred on 17 Oct 2010, 23:03
It was supposed to be. We play the 'skins next week, which I'm not optimistic about because they've been surprisingly formidable so far this year, but at least after that promising debacle there's the sanctuary of Buffalo.
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Post by: Yayniall on 18 Oct 2010, 05:34
(http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=1236605)
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Post by: Hairy Joe Bob on 18 Oct 2010, 06:24
As a lifelong Everton fan I have to say that since yesterday afternoon I've been walking on air.`
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2010, 08:35
That's one more game than United won this weekend.

I think we're trying to draw as many games as possible. What the fuck. You get a free kick from 10 yards because of a backpass and can't score?
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Post by: tommydski on 18 Oct 2010, 08:54
More to the point, Tevez is currently single-handedly responsible for your closest rivals being above you in the league. Ferguson refused to negotiate on Tevez's contract and pointlessly froze him out in favour of the mercurial Berbatov. Now Ronaldo is gone and Rooney is an expensive bench warmer they'll never be rid of because of his stupidly high wage expectations and an inflated transfer fee they'll place on him due to last season's performances, regardless of the fact that he's absolutely useless now.

Giggs and Scholes are on the cusp of retirement. Carrick and Hargreaves will never be match fit. There's no money to spend either. The Ferguson era is about to end with a feeble dribble of piss circling the drain.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2010, 09:08
Don't forget his greatest signing ever: Anderson.

He's played about 105 games for United, and has scored exactly one goal. Compare to another United signing that never panned out, David Bellion.

At Bellion's rate, he'd have 16 goals in 105 games.
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Post by: tommydski on 18 Oct 2010, 09:45
Anderson (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/01/manchester-united-anderson-car-crash) certainly has that professional vibe Ferguson loves.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 18 Oct 2010, 21:20
Cliff Lee is good at throwing baseballs.
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Post by: ErrantVenture on 18 Oct 2010, 21:21
Cliff Lee is good at throwing baseballs.

Josh Hamilton is better at hitting them ^___^
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Post by: Aurjay on 18 Oct 2010, 23:49
What the hell Jags. You had your chance to show the nation that you can be a good football team and you failed miserably. Tonight was your only game in prime-time and you completely blew it. Not by a little but by an embarrassing amount. 3-3 isnt a bad a record to have right now but when those 3 losses points equal to over 70 points you have got to seriously ask yourself some questions. I hope with Gerrard being "injured" Edwards will get to step up. Gerrard has been an inconsistent bum for years and we need to move on. Hopefully Del Rio believes so as well. Sorry for the rant but that game was just painful.
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Post by: Ozymandias on 19 Oct 2010, 00:00
Guys, I don't want to talk about sports but this is amusing me too much:

UNM, the closest college football team to me, is currently 0-6 this season with a total of 279 points scored on them. That's an average of 46.5 points per game. The first game of the season was a 72-0 loss.

It is hilarious because fuck the Lobos.
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Oct 2010, 02:53
Just saw the highlights for the Colts game that was an incredible catch.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Oct 2010, 09:28
Jesus christ Rooney drama. Aggggggggh.
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Post by: Yayniall on 19 Oct 2010, 10:47
He left his beloved childhood club for money, you can't really expect too much from him.
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Post by: tommydski on 19 Oct 2010, 10:59
Not to mention his extra-marital affairs with a fierce looking prostitute.
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Oct 2010, 15:23
He left his beloved childhood club for money, you can't really expect too much from him.

I get a bit tired of this argument being levelled against professional sports-people. What's the career span of a professional sports-person? Ten, fifteen years? If they're lucky and don't suffer any career-ending injury, which could happen at any time? They spend their whole life learning skills for a career that's going to be over by the time they're in their late thirties. After that, assuming they live a full life, they're going to have to live another forty to fifty years not being able to ply their trade and having to deal with an unusually decrepit body as a consequence of all the injuries they've sustained playing a game for our amusement. Okay, granted, if the sports-person in question is a professional footballer in Europe then he's being paid way too much - but given the brevity and risk of a professional sports-person's career, I have absolutely no problem with them trying to make as much money as they possibly can in those few brief years available to them.
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Post by: october1983 on 19 Oct 2010, 15:41
The general expectation that a player should be limited by his childhood choice of team is endlessly ridiculous even if you discount the financial side of things. Part of Rooney's official line when he left Everton was to do with the fact that it wasn't a club with much chance of contending in Europe - should some bizarre sense of club loyalty really mean that a promising young player should miss out on the opportunity to play at the highest level of European club football, and thus have the chance to reach his full potential?
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Oct 2010, 15:49
So dude, you won the Champions League AND the Club World Cup.

It's not like if you go to Madrid or City, you get to play in some wicked exclusive intergalactic club championship or anything.
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Post by: jwhouk on 19 Oct 2010, 17:31
And then you go to America where you can walk down Main Street of Peoria, Illinois, and no one would know or care who you are.
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Post by: jwhouk on 19 Oct 2010, 22:10
The Texas Rangers are likely less than 24 hours away from becoming the next American League Champions.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Oct 2010, 07:16
And then you go to America where you can walk down Main Street of Peoria, Illinois, and no one would know or care who you are.

Rooney's 24. He's not even eligible to play in MLS for another 8-10 years.


PSHOOOOO BIG WIN OVER THE CAPS LAST NIGHT, BRUINS!

I also got to see some dude from Vancouver be a total douchehole and try to attack a Minnesota fan for cheering for his team. Wicked classy, Canucks.
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Post by: Yayniall on 20 Oct 2010, 11:36
Looks like Rooney's off to Liverpool, was at Anfield before and overhead Hodgson say "looks like Wayne's coming"
Didn't stay long after though because it started pissing it down.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 20 Oct 2010, 21:12
oh my god that game nearly killed me but we are one win away from the world series

i love baseball so much right now you guys don't even know
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Post by: Inlander on 20 Oct 2010, 22:06
I watched some of a game of baseball on T.V. last night. I couldn't really tell what was going on. There seemed to be two teams of guys in drab uniforms swinging and missing the ball a lot. Though I guess I can't really talk seeing as how I enjoy watching test cricket which is basically just five days of guys not even playing shots at all.
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Post by: jwhouk on 20 Oct 2010, 22:43
Baseball is a lot closer to Twenty20 cricket than anything else. Except we talk about cutters and curveballs instead of googlies and slow pitches.

Josh Hamilton, however, would probably do well in Twenty20. Knocking it out for six every time would be a hoot.
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Post by: jwhouk on 20 Oct 2010, 22:44
oh my god that game nearly killed me but we are one win away from the world series

i love baseball so much right now you guys don't even know

Giants fan, hm? You realize you guys haven't won the World Series since the Truman administration?
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Post by: scarred on 20 Oct 2010, 23:14
a Giants-Rangers WS would make me so happy
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Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Oct 2010, 03:32
oh my god that game nearly killed me but we are one win away from the world series

i love baseball so much right now you guys don't even know

Giants fan, hm? You realize you guys haven't won the World Series since the Truman administration?

Every streak's gotta end sometime. My dad will probably completely lose it if we can pull it off this year, he's been waiting his whole life.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Oct 2010, 05:45
Aw man, I (and many people I know) know that feeling, Bryan.

The joys of being a Sox fan.
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Post by: Darke on 21 Oct 2010, 07:38
Looks like Rooney's off to Liverpool, was at Anfield before and overhead Hodgson say "looks like Wayne's coming"
Didn't stay long after though because it started pissing it down.

Three times after initially hearing it and I am still not sick of this joke.
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Post by: Alex C on 21 Oct 2010, 19:06
I hate how there's armchair football players around the country agreeing with James Harrison and calling NFL players soft for saying that maybe a guy shouldn't spear with his helmet. I don't think James Harrison is a dirty player, per se, since that's really not the point or the problem. The problem is football culture has a long history of negligence.
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Post by: scarred on 21 Oct 2010, 20:05
Until it happens to Tom Brady, no one is safe.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Oct 2010, 06:14
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=834922&sec=england&cc=5901

Wait, what?
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Post by: Inlander on 22 Oct 2010, 21:25
I guess maybe his agent was trying to inflate his market value? In Australia at the moment it's not uncommon for rugby league players who are coming to the end of their contract to talk big about how they want to go and play rugby union in Europe for gazillions of dollars before miraculously resigning with their current team.
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Post by: Alex C on 23 Oct 2010, 13:19
Until it happens to Tom Brady, no one is safe.

That's the one thing I agree with guys like Chris Harris about. There's a definite double standard in place, especially if the offensive player is a star. I remember in one of Adrian Peterson's first preseason games he went out of his way at the end of a running play to make contact with his helmet when a guy was coming in to force him out of bounds. It was one of those plays where you could hear their helmets crash loud and clear, but Peterson's a running back so the announcers responded by furiously masturbating.
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Post by: scarred on 23 Oct 2010, 19:58
Waking up early tomorrow to catch the Bears Jay Cutler getting flattened by the Redskins. Why do I do this to myself.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 23 Oct 2010, 21:43
THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT

THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT
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Post by: jwhouk on 24 Oct 2010, 02:57
Giants vs. Rangers in the World Series.

Rangers already established as favorites, but Giants have just found ways to win this post-season.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 12:55
I'm starting to get bummed out now because the Bears have a million turnovers but are still in the game. The Mike Martz pouty face is maybe even more delightful than Cutler's though, so I guess I can live with any outcome.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 13:01
Oh wait, nevermind, another pick.
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Post by: scarred on 24 Oct 2010, 15:24
Slept through my alarm in apathy, wore my Cutler jersey around town but I'm scared to watch the recap.

Stoked for Vikings-Packers tonight, though. And what the hell happened to Drew Brees? Is the Cutler Curse spreading?
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 16:12
Just skip the recap. You had 5 possessions that ended in turnovers in a row.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 16:19
I just looked at the boxscores and the Oakland Raiders have 59 points. Wut?
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 24 Oct 2010, 16:37
Since when do the raiders win anything? Ever? Or at all?

...

And what the hell happened to that Saints?
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Post by: scarred on 24 Oct 2010, 16:52
Raiders bead San Diego, too. But that one was close. 59-14, even in today's league, is still a little  :psyduck:
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 19:50
If we lose by 4 points after Shiancoe got robbed I'm going to end up killing an official.
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Post by: scarred on 24 Oct 2010, 20:32
hahahaha oh god Favre isn't going to be alive in a few weeks.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 20:34
Eh, the way things are going I almost expect Cutler's career to end first.
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Post by: scarred on 24 Oct 2010, 20:54
hey now, Cutler found his strategy to avoid immediate death: just pitch it to the other team. Favre tried his best but you can't beat J-Cutty when it comes to awesome pickerceptions.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 21:09
It's just a body language issue, I guess. He looks like he's going to snap one of these days (Mentally or physically, take your pick.) I don't even really blame him. If he was Rich Gannon or Jake Plummer the screaming in the huddle would have started a couple weeks ago.
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Post by: scarred on 24 Oct 2010, 21:11
Well, given our schedule, which turns a little nightmarish after Buffalo, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by: jwhouk on 24 Oct 2010, 21:20
Fah-vruh's last toss at Lambeau = INCOMPLETE.

Now the big question: does he get sat by Childress or by Roger Goodell?
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Post by: Dazed on 24 Oct 2010, 21:27
Seriously though DeAngelo Hall was Cutler's 2nd leading receiver for the game. That's laughably awful even for a Bears QB.

I'm a bit worried by how the Pats almost threw away an easy win today though, game was about 10000x closer than it should have been given the ridiculous turnovers San Diego handed us in the first half.
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Post by: Alex C on 24 Oct 2010, 21:43
Fah-vruh's last toss at Lambeau = INCOMPLETE.

Now the big question: does he get sat by Childress or by Roger Goodell?

Neither, probably? Sterger keeps refusing to comment and the alternative is Tarvaris Jackson.
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Post by: jwhouk on 25 Oct 2010, 06:34
Oh! Daddy! PLEEEEASSSEEEEE?

(Drools at the thought of Tavaris Jackson throwing INT's and INC's...)
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Oct 2010, 07:17
[...]
I'm a bit worried by how the Pats almost threw away an easy win today though, game was about 10000x closer than it should have been given the ridiculous turnovers San Diego handed us in the first half.

The Chargers really were surprisingly creative in finding new ways to lose the football. Really, objectively speaking, it was amazing. That game should have ended 40-20 instead of 23-20.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2010, 08:49
THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT

THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT

And sadly enough, Bobby Thomson died earlier this year.
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Post by: jwhouk on 25 Oct 2010, 15:24
Even sadder, the Giants lost the World Series after that win. (Why DID Dressen bring in Branca, anyways?)
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Post by: scarred on 25 Oct 2010, 16:42
Today is one of those rare days when I'm rooting for the New York Giants. Seeing the Cowboys fall to 1-5 is too delicious an opportunity to pass up.
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Post by: scarred on 25 Oct 2010, 20:53
It couldn't have happened to a more mediocre player.

I mean, seriously. For all the press/glowing endorsements Romo gets, you'd think he'd at least have won a playoff game in his career.
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Post by: Dazed on 25 Oct 2010, 21:28
And then the next game he got picked once and fumbled 3 times. The dude is seriously not anywhere close to the top-flight quarterback he's often talked about as. I'd take someone like Chad Henne or Matt Schaub over him any day of the week, and especially on Sunday.
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Post by: Alex C on 25 Oct 2010, 23:27
I wish Tarvaris Jackson was good. I've met him before and he seems like a nice guy and the whole way he's been jerked around with the ongoing Brett Favre saga is one of the more underrated shitty subplots going in football. Having to prepare like you're going to be the starter for two seasons in a row while answering media questions about how your teammates flew down to Mississippi to beg a 40 year old to come back is sort of a raw deal. On the bright side, I guess he's still getting paid and unlike half the other QBs in the NFL he may not end up getting horribly maimed by the Giants this year, so he's got that going for him.
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Post by: jwhouk on 26 Oct 2010, 01:29
I can think of a few people who can relate to what Tavarius is going through.

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Post by: Alex C on 26 Oct 2010, 07:39
List.

I think some those guys can relate to an extent, but the media circus that comes with Favre territory makes this one a li'l worse than usual. There were local media guys who basically asked questions like "So, clearly your teammates want Favre and the fan base is terrified of the idea of you starting. How does that affect your preparation as the first man on the depth chart?". It sucks that a guy like Pederson never really got a legit chance as a starter, but he never really had an openly hostile fan base to deal with after having once been groomed as the starter either. Rodgers has the most obvious connection with the whole thing, but he at least looks like he'll be good enough to take it out on the rest of the league for the next 8 or 9 years. Besides, in a way this may have rather ended up helping out Rodger's relationship with the fans a bit, since he put up with a lot of bullshit on his way to starting and people seem to appreciate that. Remember that he could have ended up more like Steve "Will Never Be Joe Montana" Young.
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Post by: KickThatBathProf on 26 Oct 2010, 08:10
I'd have taken a healthy Tony Romo over them any day of the week.

this has become funny after yesterday's events
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Post by: jwhouk on 26 Oct 2010, 08:47
In case you didn't notice, Alex, that list was the one of pretty much every backup QB that ended up having to go elsewhere to start or get any significant playing time.

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Post by: Alex C on 26 Oct 2010, 11:54
I dunno if you'd call Pederson's truly significant. That was a straight up "You're here to take a season's worth of hits before we throw Donovan to the wolves," situation. Anyway, I'm just saying I generally feel bad for that kinda player and Jackson's situation has been more of a roller coaster ride than most.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Oct 2010, 14:12
I'm calling it. Chicharito Hernandez is the new Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
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Post by: jwhouk on 26 Oct 2010, 19:39
 :? :? :?

<--- Clueless American, sorry.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2010, 05:53
Just because you're American doesn't mean you can't like soccer.

I do! and I'm from here!


(Ole Gunnar Solskjaer used to play for Man United, and was basically a super substitute/savior. Chicharito came over from Mexico this summer and is doing the same thing)
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Post by: Inlander on 27 Oct 2010, 06:09
"Chicharito" is way more fun to say than "Ole Gunnar", though.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2010, 06:15
Plus the English announcers just CANNOT say it right. It's not "Cheek-a-rito", guys.
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Post by: Inlander on 27 Oct 2010, 06:47
Speaking of commentary fuck-ups: the other night I was watching briefly a Bundesliga game and somewhere in T.V. land someone had fucked up because the commentary was from a completely different Bundesliga game. Pretty damn disconcerting, especially when there was simultaneous goal-mouth action in both games, and the attacking team in the "audio" game scored a goal about which the commentator got particularly excited, while the attacking team in the "video" game only won a corner that didn't come to anything.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 27 Oct 2010, 08:03
Plus the English announcers just CANNOT say it right. It's not "Cheek-a-rito", guys.

Don't even get me started on the English commentators. For some reason, it seems to be acceptable to sound like a moron when commentating and spectacularly fucking up the pronunciation of all of the foreign players.

David Pleat, I am looking at you especially. I wish I could meet you so that I could smack you every time you mispronounced a name and then maybe you would learn.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2010, 08:40
The one I really don't get (and EVERYONE does this) is "Sir Alec Ferguson".

He's been around for...well..since before I was born, do you guys just not have the ability to pronounce the letter x?
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Post by: Barmymoo on 27 Oct 2010, 15:57
Alec is an actual name... but not his.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 27 Oct 2010, 16:16
I would hazard a guess as it being because Alec is often what Scottish people call those named Alex, a sort of variation in the same way that Eoin, Sean and Ian are all variations of John.

It is another mistake but frankly, with it being that scumbag, I would be happy for them to do it if it annoys him more.
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Post by: jwhouk on 27 Oct 2010, 16:28
Might be a nickname of sorts - you know, like "Sir Alec Guinness".
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Post by: Gemmwah on 27 Oct 2010, 16:42
I have a family friend who is scottish called Alex and although he signs everything Alex, everyone calls him Alec. Nicknames, yo.
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Oct 2010, 18:57
Had an exchange student who called me that. Really annoying. Anyway, the Packers injury situation is getting pretty surreal. The 10 guys on injured reserve (and I think they had one guy they just let go who was out for the year too) was impressive enough, but I forgot that they had 3 guys on the PUP list too. I pay quite a bit of attention to this stuff, but I'm starting to feel like I'm going to have to print out the roster like it was a play program before games at this rate.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Oct 2010, 18:58
8-2 Giants, top of the 6th. That last half inning was ridiculous.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 27 Oct 2010, 23:34
8-2 Giants, top of the 6th. That last half inning was ridiculous.

Cliff who? :smug:
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Post by: scarred on 27 Oct 2010, 23:49
(http://www.mocksession.com/30fps//2010%20October%2027%2022%2048%2026.jpg)
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Post by: jwhouk on 28 Oct 2010, 02:32
(photo: Ian Kinsler can't believe it)

Ian Kinsler, meet Fred Merkle.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 28 Oct 2010, 02:34
I prefer this version:

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9464/hatersgonnahuff.gif)
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Oct 2010, 05:56
lawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl.
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Post by: scarred on 28 Oct 2010, 11:51
best haters gonna hate ever.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Oct 2010, 11:59
To be fair, NEVER ROUND FIRST ON AN INFIELD SINGLE YOU IDIOT.
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Post by: jwhouk on 28 Oct 2010, 14:11
No, it's more like KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL AND NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING DOOFUS.
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Post by: scarred on 28 Oct 2010, 15:00
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2edoy7q.gif)
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Post by: Alex C on 28 Oct 2010, 20:29
I swear to god the Timberwolves somehow managed to get worse after dumping McHale.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 28 Oct 2010, 21:25
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4585/immattcainandyourefucki.jpg)

I literally could not stop laughing during that 8th inning. Good lord, what an utter meltdown.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2010, 06:23
I would have felt bad if it was any other team. But I'm rooting for the Giants/have a bet with my dad.

It was an Ankeilian meltdown, man.
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Post by: jwhouk on 29 Oct 2010, 09:05
It was like a train wreck. You didn't want to watch, but you couldn't help but stare.

Four walks, three straight hits - all with two outs.

We now know who the winner of the 2010 Grady Little Award is...
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2010, 10:24
You shut your goddamn mouth and never mention that name around here again.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 30 Oct 2010, 00:29
I've seen surprisingly few good gifs to come out of yesterday's game, outside of Kinsler's double bouncing off the top of the center field wall. No good camera angle to catch Kinsler saying 'fuck' really obviously after it bounced back in play, unfortunately. Walk 'Em, Texas Ranger was a pretty good Twitter meme though.
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Post by: tommydski on 31 Oct 2010, 14:49
Leeds United Captain Johnny Howson scored a perfect hattrick (left foot, right foot, header) in just under fifteen minutes yesterday.

(http://www.leedsunited.com/javaImages/33/bb/0,,10273~9157427,00.jpg)

You can watch here (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfghmz_scunthorpe-1-v-4-leeds-30-10-10_sport).
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Post by: jwhouk on 31 Oct 2010, 15:01
I thought a perfect hat trick was a power-play goal, even-strength goal and a short-handed goal.
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Post by: tommydski on 31 Oct 2010, 15:05
Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 31 Oct 2010, 15:48
I thought a perfect hat trick was a power-play goal, even-strength goal and a short-handed goal.

You know, I didn't know that there was a perfect hat-trick in hockey but that does make a lot of sense.

Of course, the Gordie Howe hat-trick is much more fun (goal, assist, fight).
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Post by: Dazed on 31 Oct 2010, 16:23
Haha yessss crash and burn Brett Favre CRASH AND BURNNN.
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Post by: Inlander on 31 Oct 2010, 17:54
Fantastic game between the All Blacks and the Wallabies in Hong Kong on Saturday night. Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO4dC9EEuew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO4dC9EEuew)

Adam Ashley-Cooper's try in particular was outstanding, I still wish he was a bit faster but as he showed here once again he can beat a defender with strength and with skill just as easily. Quade Cooper really needs to do a lot of work on his defence, he falls off far too many tackles, but in attack he's the most exciting thing to happen to Australian Rugby in years. The Wallabies still have a lot of problems, but they're a pretty young team and given that coach Robbie Williams basically had to turn around a decade's worth of entrenched kick-heavy, attack-shy mentality, I think things are starting to look really good. And holy shit, just when you think George Smith was the best number 7 Australia would ever see along comes David Pocock!

EDIT: But international referees really, really need to start cracking down on the All Black's work around the breakdown. The way they suddenly started lying all around the base of the ruck, getting in Will Genia's way every time the Wallabies started to get a roll on, was unbelievably blatant and yet they get away with it time and time again. Given that next year's World Cup is going to be in New Zealand, this is rather worrying.
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Post by: jwhouk on 31 Oct 2010, 20:07
I thought a perfect hat trick was a power-play goal, even-strength goal and a short-handed goal.

You know, I didn't know that there was a perfect hat-trick in hockey but that does make a lot of sense.

Of course, the Gordie Howe hat-trick is much more fun (goal, assist, fight).
There's also the natural hat-trick, which is three straight goals scored by the same person without any intervening goals by others.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 31 Oct 2010, 20:52
Three wickets in three consecutive balls?
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Post by: jwhouk on 31 Oct 2010, 23:53
Wait, isn't that called something else? (My cricket's rusty.)
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Post by: Inlander on 01 Nov 2010, 00:02
Nope, that's a hat-trick.

Interesting thing about a cricket hat-trick is that it can be stretched out over an unusually long time: as long as it's three wickets on three consecutive deliveries by the one bowler it's a hat-trick. So if a bowler gets two wickets from the last two balls of an over (six balls per over), then the other bowler bowls his (or her) over from the other end - when the original bowler comes back to bowl his next over, if he gets a wicket on the first delivery of that over it's a hat-trick. This can even carry over from one session to another: so a bowler can get two (or one) wickets before, say, the lunch break, and come back and finish off his hat-trick with the first delivery of the first over after the lunch break.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 01 Nov 2010, 01:34
Over innings even. Which can in some cases be two days.
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Post by: scarred on 01 Nov 2010, 02:26
giants 3-1

yeaaaah
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2010, 08:48
I thought a perfect hat trick was a power-play goal, even-strength goal and a short-handed goal.

You know, I didn't know that there was a perfect hat-trick in hockey but that does make a lot of sense.

Of course, the Gordie Howe hat-trick is much more fun (goal, assist, fight).

I believe the term you guys are looking for is "natural hat trick".
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Nov 2010, 09:26
I thought a perfect hat trick was a power-play goal, even-strength goal and a short-handed goal.

You know, I didn't know that there was a perfect hat-trick in hockey but that does make a lot of sense.

Of course, the Gordie Howe hat-trick is much more fun (goal, assist, fight).
There's also the natural hat-trick, which is three straight goals scored by the same person without any intervening goals by others.

Dude, too slow.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2010, 09:32
Man frigging whatever. I'm still confused by Nani's goal on Saturday.

Mostly by this: Did the ref play advantage for the handball when Nani went down? Because then it makes perfect sense and Gomes is just a big nosed idiot.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Nov 2010, 10:33
I forgot to watch that until you mentioned it actually but now that I have it's scandalous. The ref is obviously waving Gomes to take the free-kick so I have no idea how it was allowed.

On the other hand, it was 2-0 not 1-0 so Tottenham can't complain too much because they would have lost anyway (disregarding all the psychological mumbo-jumbo that they might have played better if it was only 1-0 at the time).
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Post by: Darke on 01 Nov 2010, 11:51
The referee played advantage, since Gomes having a hold of the ball with United commited to an attack is a better situation for them than a free kick. The whistle was never blown, and Gomes is an absolute idiot for thinking a free kick had been given. Someone so experienced should know better.

I don't particularly approve of Nani exploiting the situation, but other than poor sportsmanship he's not in the wrong.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Nov 2010, 14:22
Vikings already waived Randy.

lol

Maybe they can get rid of Childress next. That'd be sweet.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Nov 2010, 14:24
By the way, the fact that the Vikings had a clean shot at hiring Tomlin years ago is something that goes through my mind at least once a game.
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Post by: Dazed on 01 Nov 2010, 14:37
I kinda really hope the patriots bring randy back. That would be fucking beautiful.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Nov 2010, 14:48
The way waivers work that's impossible unless practically every other team passed on him first.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2010, 14:52
I kinda really hope the patriots bring randy back. That would be fucking beautiful.

Bill Simmons was saying that, just for the headline "Patriots trade Moss to Vikings for Moss & draft pick".

That said, Deion Branch has done a pretty good job filling his shoes.



And Danny Woodhead. Jesus fucking christ Danny Woodhead. It seems like every year, there's one guy on the Pats that becomes my favorite player. Two years ago it was Mayo, then I bought a Mayo jersey last year and got a mancrush on Vollmer, and now Ninkovich and Woodhead are replacing Vollmer.
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Post by: scarred on 01 Nov 2010, 15:23
lol
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2010, 15:33
btw, I brought this up while watching the game yesterday: Is there a worse job in sports than Tavaris Jackson?

You're the starting quarterback all summer, until some old-ass motherfucker rolls out of bed and decides he's going to take your job not once, but twice. And then gets a media frenzy around him all season, meanwhile you're just...there. The backup quarterback. People would forget you if not for Myron Pryor.
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Post by: Alex C on 01 Nov 2010, 15:45
Agreed.

Anyway, this is a weird mental situation for me. I'm not really surprised about the waiving, since it's Childress, and I'm on the record as not being a Chilly fan. But still, it's Randy Moss, so I feel like I should be surprised at this turn of events. You shouldn't go trade for him in the first place if you're not going to be able to handle it and immediately decide to bail when he continues to be Randy Moss. This is like buying a python and then getting rid of it when it turns out that hey, it expects to be fed live rodents. I can understand why you decided to bail, but you're still stupid for buying the python in the first place.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2010, 15:47
I realize now that should read "rolls out of bed, sends pictures of his junk to people, and decides to take your job".
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Post by: Storm Rider on 01 Nov 2010, 19:40
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL
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Post by: scarred on 01 Nov 2010, 20:17
Yeah Giants.
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Post by: Ozymandias on 01 Nov 2010, 21:55
I realize now that should read "rolls out of bed, sends pictures of his junk to people, and decides to take your job".

Man, I'm two-thirds of the way from being Brett Favre.

Go go go!
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Nov 2010, 01:46
So ... Pro Bowl voting has commenced ...

... anyone else busily voting Randy Moss into the pro Bowl for the Vikings?
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Nov 2010, 09:30
Glad to see my other team winning something.

Yo dad, you owe me dinner!
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Post by: Storm Rider on 02 Nov 2010, 13:27
Now that the euphoria has passed, possibly my favorite image of the 2010 Giants season:

(http://imgur.com/o41OY.gif)

I might look up some more later, there were a bunch of really awesome ones.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 03 Nov 2010, 04:41
Well that was the most fantastic game of cricket I've seen in a long time. How the hell can the ninth wicket partnership make up a 130 run deficit, it's absurd. :psyduck:
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Post by: Inlander on 03 Nov 2010, 05:57
How long a losing streak do you think it will take to stop the Australian cricket team from being such smug obnoxious arseholes?
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Nov 2010, 06:03
Now that the euphoria has passed, possibly my favorite image of the 2010 Giants season:

I was expecting Lincecum's MLB Network interview after the game where his only answer was "Oh my god, I can't believe this shit."
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Post by: tommydski on 03 Nov 2010, 16:05
How long a losing streak do you think it will take to stop the Australian cricket team from being such smug obnoxious arseholes?

They're going to roll over England for the Ashes this time around, so not much hope of that I'm afraid.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 03 Nov 2010, 16:07
How long a losing streak do you think it will take to stop the Australian cricket team from being such smug obnoxious arseholes?
I honestly don't think it's possible.
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Post by: Inlander on 03 Nov 2010, 17:48
Anyway while the Sri Lankan cricket team's in Australia let's just take a moment to admire Malinga's bowling action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3CZB2zNo9g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3CZB2zNo9g)

I mean what the fuck is that. What the fuck is that?! I love it.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 03 Nov 2010, 18:31
It's brilliant, and it's really hard to play if you're fresh at the crease.

Malinga is pretty much the only person that can pull it off though, it's the kind of stuff they try and beat out of you in primary school cricket. So hard to get anything near consistent out of it.
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Post by: jwhouk on 03 Nov 2010, 18:39
Nice hair.

I thought sidearm/three-quarter delivery wasn't legal in cricket?
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Post by: Inlander on 03 Nov 2010, 19:35
What's illegal in cricket is a bowler throwing the ball. As long as your elbow remains straight throughout the delivery - as Malinga's clearly does - it's fine.

Malinga is pretty much the only person that can pull it off though, it's the kind of stuff they try and beat out of you in primary school cricket. So hard to get anything near consistent out of it.

That's one of the reasons I love it so much. With professional sports these days there's so much orthodoxy, with sportspeople being taught the "correct" way to do things from an increasingly early age, that I just think it's fantastic whenever someone comes along who clearly has their own way of doing things, and is succesful with it.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Nov 2010, 04:27
I still think that Malinga's action is illegal, for the reason of sidearm delivery. I mean, I was always taught that you were allowed a certain degree of sidearm depending on how you bowled, e.g. Fast bowlers should have a straighter delivery than Spin bowlers because of how the arm needs to move to bowl that way and there is always leeway involved but these numbers were between 5 and 25 degrees, not 80-90 like Malinga's action.

To put it in certain terms, it's just not cricket.
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Post by: Inlander on 04 Nov 2010, 04:34
Sidearm's illegal? That's lame. Batsmen should just suck it up.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Nov 2010, 05:53
What are you guys throwing such a fit about? Nevermind three-quarter or sidearm, baseball has submarine guys that pretty much throw underhand. And have for a LONG time.

(http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/pt/photos/2009/07/090720_NS_20RangersT.jpg)
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Post by: Yayniall on 04 Nov 2010, 05:56
Australians, hang your heads in shame. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhHu5yWoCm0)
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 04 Nov 2010, 06:00
Sidearm's illegal? That's lame. Batsmen should just suck it up.
Like that technique that cropped up in the twenty20 world cup where the batsman would change their stance as the ball was being bowled, if the player is good enough to pull it off they should be allowed to do it.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 04 Nov 2010, 06:02
Australians, hang your heads in shame. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhHu5yWoCm0)
I thought our government apologised for that a while ago.

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Post by: Inlander on 04 Nov 2010, 06:12
Yeah but we could do more. We should get our Queen to apologise to their Queen.
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Post by: jwhouk on 04 Nov 2010, 16:11
Okay, now you REALLY have me confused. Why did the batsman just tip it to the... (hold on a second... returns from consulting his Cricket Explained book) "silly mid off" side and not try to run or anything?
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 04 Nov 2010, 16:12
They needed a boundary to win. Last ball.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Nov 2010, 16:19
More specifically, they needed a 6 to win, which means it has to travel in the air all of the way from hitting the bat to flying over the boundary rope (think home run but there is a rope on the floor to get over rather than a wall) and it is almost impossible to hit a rolling ball for a 6.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Nov 2010, 17:00
What are you guys throwing such a fit about? Nevermind three-quarter or sidearm, baseball has submarine guys that pretty much throw underhand. And have for a LONG time.

And Sandoval gets underneath them and fucks that ball up all the way into the stands for a three-run homer. I'm pretty sure that was the exact pitch where that happened, too. Bad example, shows just how pussy a maneuver an underhand ball is.
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Post by: jwhouk on 04 Nov 2010, 17:11
More specifically, they needed a 6 to win, which means it has to travel in the air all of the way from hitting the bat to flying over the boundary rope (think home run but there is a rope on the floor to get over rather than a wall) and it is almost impossible to hit a rolling ball for a 6.

I'm quite familiar with "hitting for six" is. I wasn't aware that it was a limited overs match. Unfortunately, that would make a ton of sense in that situation, just as an intentional walk of a big hitter with first base open does in baseball.
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Post by: Inlander on 04 Nov 2010, 18:34
If they're wearing colours instead of all white it's a limited overs match.

There is, inevitably, a wikipedia page all about it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underarm_bowling_incident_of_1981).
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 04 Nov 2010, 22:00
And the Australian selectors once again missed the last game due to their heads being firmly lodged in their arses, because they haven't included Doherty, who was the only decent thing about the Australian team on Wednesday.

Also, for some reason I can't find any mention of Ferguson on the cricinfo page, which supposedly has a full team listing. He was supposed to be playing today. EDIT: Oh fuck off he's twelfth man. What the fuck is he doing there?
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Post by: Jimor on 04 Nov 2010, 22:36
R.I.P. Sparky Anderson (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/11/04/sparky-anderson-dies-at-76-hall-of-fame-manager-led-big-red-mac/). Manager of the Cincinnati Reds and Detroit Tigers, he was the first to win a World Series in each league, and was the 3rd winningest manager in history when he retired. Everything you heard about him from those around him was positive.

I was surprised to learn he was only 76, since he looked "old" 30 years ago.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2010, 06:36
And Sandoval gets underneath them and fucks that ball up all the way into the stands for a three-run homer. I'm pretty sure that was the exact pitch where that happened, too. Bad example, shows just how pussy a maneuver an underhand ball is.

When I come out there next summer, we'll play wiffleball and you see if you can hit me throwing submarine and/or knuckleballs.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Nov 2010, 09:41
Shane I thought you're supposed to hit the ball with the bat, not other players. You've been rooting for Boston too long.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2010, 09:43
(http://baseballislife.mlblogs.com/JuanMarichalGoneWild.jpg)

Juan Marichal was a Giant, dude. Never pitched for the Sox.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Nov 2010, 14:52
Juan Marichal ruled, haters gonna hate.

Now that I'm finally done with midterms I might dig through all the various blogs and forums and do a giant image/video dump from the playoffs.
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Post by: jwhouk on 05 Nov 2010, 19:02
And Sandoval gets underneath them and #### that ball up all the way into the stands for a three-run homer. I'm pretty sure that was the exact pitch where that happened, too. Bad example, shows just how ##### a maneuver an underhand ball is.

When I come out there next summer, we'll play wiffleball and you see if you can hit me throwing submarine and/or knuckleballs.

Throwing knucklers with a wiffleball is nigh impossible. Submarine, OTOH... I could probably hit off you.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2010, 06:35
Not only is it possible, it's actually not too hard.

Bryan, from all accounts that I've heard, Juan Marichal was an amazing pitcher who had one moment of insanity. I'm not hating, it's just what came to mind when Patrick mentioned hitting someone with a bat.
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Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2010, 17:19
Oh, no.

NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=543059)

 :psyduck:
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Post by: scarred on 10 Nov 2010, 17:37
The Vikings-Bears game is actually playing in my area on Sunday. On the one hand, I'm thrilled that I don't have to go to a sports bar to watch this one. On the other, it'll be equally depressing at home.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Nov 2010, 17:40
Quote from: NHL.com's article on the all-star game
"It's an entertaining, fun game and fans like to be entertained by the players, showing their competitive spirit with a big smile on their face," said Shanahan. "It's a matter of us trying to find ways to capture that. The game, it's still going to be three 20-minute periods with two teams and everyone is wearing equipment and using the puck. In some ways it's going to look very much like it was. We know what it is. It's a fun event."

It's probably at this point that the article most resembled something from The Onion. This idea is dumb. So dumb.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 10 Nov 2010, 17:58
Oh, no.

NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=543059)

 :psyduck:

What

The

Fuck?
 :psyduck:
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Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2010, 18:38
This is one of those rare times where I'm thinking WTF NHL?

This cannot end well.

The ONLY way this could even come CLOSE to working would be if the group was playing some other entity, like the defending champion Blackhawks.
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Post by: Alex C on 10 Nov 2010, 18:53
The Vikings-Bears game is actually playing in my area on Sunday. On the one hand, I'm thrilled that I don't have to go to a sports bar to watch this one. On the other, it'll be equally depressing at home.

I have no idea what to make of this game.

On the one hand, I have absolutely no faith in the Bears. They could win the Super Bowl this year and this would still be how I remember their season:
(http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/cutler-ko-bc.jpg)

On the other, thinking the Vikings can beat the Bears would require me believing that the players will decide that continuing to go in to work with Brad Childress is less odious than just rolling over like Dallas. I could see that working for a week or two, but not for long. So while I could see them beating the Bears, I don't really expect that to translate into any kind of playoff run.

I dunno. I'm probably just being a homer. The Bears have a winning record and the Vikings do not. I would consider this a foregone conclusion if the Giants hadn't hit Cutler so hard that I almost thought of him as a human being for a second.
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Post by: scarred on 10 Nov 2010, 19:21
Yeah, he's only been sacked 28 times this season, man up ya pussy!

This is basically a crapshoot of the NFC North. The Bears should be tied for last place with the Vikes and the Lions should be somewhere around 4-4.

Both teams also have coaching staffs on the brink of annihilation. But I think some of the Bears actually have faith in Lovie, who's brought them to a Super Bowl before, so part of me (beyond my bias) wants to say the Bears will come out on top.

Add to that the fact that Favre is starting to look like more of a china doll than Matthew Stafford, and that he has almost no targets in the passing game, and I see this game being a repeat of the Green Bay/New York game that ended up being 9-0.

Bleh.
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Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2010, 19:35
Fred Besana can relate.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2010, 06:35
Joey Barton punched someone again?

How do they even let him play professional soccer? Jesus.
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Post by: tommydski on 11 Nov 2010, 10:12
Football is a contact sport, Shane. Ask Rio Ferdinand.

(http://our.pix.free.fr/dfb/tevezferdinand.jpg)

Dr Tevez will see you now.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2010, 10:17
Frig, ask Kieron Dyer, man.

Next on FOX: When Teammates Attack!
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Post by: alli on 11 Nov 2010, 14:53
(http://www.7amkickoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/barton-punch.gif)

what a twat
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Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Nov 2010, 02:59
Which one, the one who punched the guy in the chest or the guy who was like "ooh I should pretend to be dying"?
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Nov 2010, 05:58
The one who punched a guy/punched a teammate so hard his face broke/snuffed out a lit cigar in his teammate's eye.
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Post by: alli on 12 Nov 2010, 06:26
yeah...that one
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Nov 2010, 06:48
Yeah. The guy who got punched (Morten Gamst Pedersen) is a pretty decent footballer and outstanding citizen.

Though I think the Premier League made him stop wearing "GAMST" on his jersey? Kinda lame. Javier Hernandez gets his nickname on his.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 12 Nov 2010, 07:32
Soccer is so full of schwalbes I don't take anyone falling down on a pitch seriously. They're all faking it and it makes the sport very unattractive.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Nov 2010, 08:14
Tell that to Antonio Valencia's dislocated and broken ankle.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 13 Nov 2010, 13:08
(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/158508/191053005.gif)
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Post by: scarred on 13 Nov 2010, 13:15
hahahaha fail
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 13 Nov 2010, 14:06
"Man, I gotta get this to tie it up. Ok, you can do it Kovy, you got this, you the man. Go go go ... aww crap."
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Post by: tommydski on 13 Nov 2010, 14:22
They're all faking it and it makes the sport very unattractive.

I wish this was true. Sadly, I've seen too many injuries in person and on television. I won't trouble you with some of the more gruesome ones but they are there if you care to Google.

Incidentally, this ties in nicely with the news that today Leeds striker Luciano Becchio scored a hattrick in eighteen minutes today, despite only coming on in the sixtieth minute and having one eye closed (http://www.leedsunited.com/javaImages/83/4a/0,,10273~9194115,00.jpg) courtesy of an elbow during the midweek fixture -

(http://www.leedsunited.com/javaImages/d8/5c/0,,10273~9198808,00.jpg)

The second Leeds player to score a hattrick in two weeks, both scored in under twenty minutes!
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Post by: Alex C on 13 Nov 2010, 15:42
Yeah, to say "all players" is a gross misrepresentation of what goes on. It's like with basketball. Do players try to work the officials? Sure. Do people still get hurt? You bet your ass.
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Post by: tommydski on 13 Nov 2010, 15:44
As a percentage though, he's definitely right. The play acting is so bad. Never did that as a player. Never ever.
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Post by: Alex C on 13 Nov 2010, 15:55
It's one of those things that I don't see a good way around. Tripping injuries and the like are just way too nasty to go changing the rules too much just to stop people from being a bit douchey about it.
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Post by: Inlander on 13 Nov 2010, 17:59
It's probably not practical for most cases of play-acting, but in the Australian A-League this season they've introduced retroactive suspensions for any player deemed after a match to have been guilty of diving.
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Post by: Alex C on 13 Nov 2010, 18:47
Scarred, you confuse me. I don't understand how the only Bears fan I know who is actually realistic about the Bears' strengths and weaknesses is some dude from the internet. That's kinda the opposite of what I've learned to expect from life. Weird. Maybe it's harder to drink the Kool-Aid from Seattle. Then again, I suppose we're so busy hating the Packers here in Minnesota that Bears fans have to resort to saying really dumb crap just to get a good-natured argument going, so maybe I'm just overthinking this.
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Post by: scarred on 13 Nov 2010, 20:11
I'd blame it on not being surrounded by screaming fans who distract from actually watching the game, added onto the intense aura of defeatism that comes with living in Seattle and Enjoying Sports.

I dunno, it doesn't seem like it's that hard to see the Bears' faults, especially this year. We barely beat the freakin' Bills last week. The only thing you really need to appreciate the shitter where this franchise lives is a pulse.



Typing that last sentence sort of hurt me inside.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 13 Nov 2010, 20:16
The moral is, sucks to be you if you're from Buffalo  :mrgreen:

(the Sabres blow too wooooooo)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 13 Nov 2010, 20:31
My only experience with Buffalo as a city, beyond their atrocious track record with sports, was an episode of Cops. It was horrifying.
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Post by: Alex C on 13 Nov 2010, 20:36
Seattle is an underrated miserable sports city. The Sonics had a 60 win season the same year that Jordan's Bulls went 72-10.  :|
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 13 Nov 2010, 20:38
Really, I imagine there must be Sonics fans that feel like MJ unretired just to personally put a cigarette out on their asses. That's just awful.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 13 Nov 2010, 20:56
I think you mean the Oklahoma City Thunder.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 13 Nov 2010, 21:22
Thunder is such a terrible name too.
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Nov 2010, 01:28
At least they have the Sounders.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 14 Nov 2010, 11:09
I bet that Harvin touchdown is going to cause Lovie Smith to say some colorful things in the film room.
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Post by: scarred on 14 Nov 2010, 13:58
For as sloppy as we played, I'm surprised we pulled that win out with such a large margin on the scoreboard.

At least the Jets beat the Browns, if they'd had the same record as the Bears I don't know how I would react.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 14 Nov 2010, 14:25
For as sloppy as we played, I'm surprised we pulled that win out with such a large margin on the scoreboard.


It says a lot about how terrible the Vikings have been offensively. The Bears had good field position all day and like I hinted at earlier, that one Viking's touchdown was a gimme off of broken coverage. The Cover 2 is a great defense right up until a safety randomly lets someone get behind him.
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Post by: scarred on 14 Nov 2010, 14:31
The absence of Sidney Rice and the containment of Adrian Peterson are certainly not helping things.
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Nov 2010, 19:04
...and that old geezer standing in the middle of the field that keeps thinking he can play football.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 14 Nov 2010, 20:01
Pats-Steelers game is sucking balls.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 14 Nov 2010, 21:16
More like pats-steelers game is AWESOME fuck the steelers.

Also, good for Rob Gronkowski, way to follow up the worst game possible with the best game possible.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 14 Nov 2010, 21:36
I hate 'em both but I think I hate the Pats more. Which, living in Seattle, doesn't really make sense. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Super-Bowl-XL-head-official-admits-to-blown-call?urn=nfl-260901)
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Post by: Dazed on 14 Nov 2010, 21:44
But why? I didn't think anyone could hate anyone more than the steelers.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 14 Nov 2010, 21:54
I dunno. But my enmity towards the Steelers is easily outmatched by the same towards New England (and Dallas).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 16 Nov 2010, 00:59
Every rational football fan hates the Dallas Cowboys.

Why does the baseball offseason have to be so goddamn long?
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Post by: scarred on 16 Nov 2010, 01:04
No idea but MNF tonight was appalling. I don't know how any defense lets a team score 28 in the first quarter.
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Post by: jwhouk on 16 Nov 2010, 02:02
Philadelphia State University beat Andover Tech, 59-28. Personally, I think the PSU head coach ran up the score to try to impress the BCS voters.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 16 Nov 2010, 10:35
Every rational football fan hates the Dallas Cowboys.

Why does the baseball offseason have to be so goddamn long?

February 13th, Bry.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Nov 2010, 11:17
So, by "so goddamn long", you mean four fucking months?
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Post by: tommydski on 16 Nov 2010, 11:21
It wasn't so bad this year because of the World Cup but honestly, ordinarily between football seasons I find myself idly contemplating suicide every few minutes.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 16 Nov 2010, 11:58
So, by "so goddamn long", you mean four fucking months?

And that's just until pitchers and catchers show up for spring training (aka the best day of the year). Season doesn't start until March 31st.

Bryan, if you have MLB Network, they show some Arizona Fall League games, as well as the Caribbean Series during the winter. They just started showing Ken Burns' Baseball on Thursday nights, as well. Highly recommended if you're into old-timey baseball and the soothing tones of Bob Costas.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 16 Nov 2010, 23:13
I caught the Rising Stars game when it was on a couple weeks ago, Brandon Belt (top Giants prospect, will probably get called up at some point next season) drew 3 walks and would have gotten a double if the center fielder hadn't made a crazy running catch. Beyond that there just isn't a whole lot going on. Winter meetings are at the beginning of December but I don't know how much the Giants will do this offseason. The last thing I want is for Sabean to tie up a bunch of money in Carl Crawford. He's good, but he's going to be vastly overpaid because the free agent market is terrible and I don't want the Giants to be that team. I want them to get Huff and Uribe back and maybe deal Sanchez if they can get a good return for him. If they lose Uribe to the Cardinals (who apparently want him bad) then maybe they could look into bidding on Tsuyoshi Nishioka, who's coming over from Japan this offseason. The ownership is supposedly raising the salary room Sabean has to work with, but there's just not much out there for the Giants needs if they're really not interested in Jayson Werth (which makes me angry but whatever).
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Nov 2010, 04:52
Every rational football fan hates the Dallas Cowboys.
True, but with Romo side-lined and that incredibly fat coach fired I actually enjoyed the cowboys' performance last week.

Of course it did help that I hate the team they played against with a fervent passion ...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Nov 2010, 05:47
Stay the fuck off Jayson Werth. He's ours.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 17 Nov 2010, 12:55
Fuck you, I want him so bad. He actually works counts and hits for extra bases, and those are the two things the Giants need so, so badly right now. But Sabean apparently has no interest in him, so yeah he's probably going to be on the Red Sox.

Basically what I'm saying is that the Giants should have firsties on all free agents with beards. It just makes sense.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Nov 2010, 05:52
Johnny Damon and his weak-ass throwing arm are available. Pretty sure you could talk him into growing back the beard.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 18 Nov 2010, 13:55
Bears-Dolphins tonight. Even with their immense QB issues, I don't know how much I like our chances. Cutler tends to suck dicks on primetime.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Nov 2010, 08:55
LUCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 19 Nov 2010, 14:57
yay, we're the worst 7-3 team in the league!

Rest of year:

Philly
@Lions
Pats
@Vikes
Jets
@Pack

Maybe 2 wins out of that schedule.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Nov 2010, 17:26
Thrashers beating the Capitals 3-0 at the end of the 1st period. What the fuck is going on here?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Nov 2010, 17:29
Weird things happen over the course of a season that you don't expect.

Sometimes, the cellar dwellers put a beatdown on the best team in the league.

It's called the Law of Competitive Balance.

EDIT: For those of you who don't know what that is:

Quote
"There develop over time separate and unequal strategies adopted by winners and losers; the balance of those strategies favors the losers, and thus serves constantly to narrow the difference between the two."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 19 Nov 2010, 18:28
Speaking of what the fuck...

What the fuck was this (http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2010020271&navid=sb:recap) crazy as balls game last night?

And how did the Flyers lose it?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Nov 2010, 18:35
Quote
PHILADELPHIA -- Steven Stamkos said Tampa Bay's wild win at Wells Fargo Center reminded him of what hockey looked like in the 1980s.

One problem: He was born in 1990.

 :psyduck: Oh God I am so old

Also: ATL-WSH is now 4-0  :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Nov 2010, 18:39
Oh, I remember the Gretzky Age of Hockey.

I LOVED IT.

A close game was a 5-4 nail-biter.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 19 Nov 2010, 21:31
Speaking of which, someone pointed out that now that injuries have probably forced Jamie Moyer to finally retire, Omar Vizquel is the only remaining active player to have his first major league at-bat in the 1980s.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Nov 2010, 07:28
Last I heard, he was saying he was going to have Tommy John and try to come back in 2012.

At 48? Maybe if he became a knuckleballer.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Nov 2010, 13:01
To summarise: The entire NHL has gone batshit insane? The Wild beats the Red Wings, Sabres beat the Kings, Atlanta shut Washington out, and the fucking FLAMES beat the Hawks 2-7. What the hell is going on here?

Also the Rangers lost which isn't really a surprise but it still bums me out so I'm including it here.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Nov 2010, 09:09
Sometimes the not-so-good teams win, Dovey. No one's ever gone 0-82.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Nov 2010, 10:30
Just weird that it all seemed to happen on the same day.

That being said, with a goal like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxiJRx7F_5I), I think the Thrashers deserved the win.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 22 Nov 2010, 11:06
The great thing about the NHL is that no matter what team you support there are always a couple of great players in the roster. Just using for example the bottom 3 teams right now
Oilers have Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Sam Gagner;
Devils have Patrick Elias, Ilya Kovalchuk and Martin Brodeur
Islanders have John Tavares, Matt Moulson and Mark Streit (ok, this is by far the weakest roster of any NHL team out there right now but I think I made my point)

The Thrashers on the other hand have Kane, Ladd, Bogosian, Enstrom, Peverley, Antropov, Pavelec etc. so they're not that bad a team altogether and being a Rangers fan you know all about quality players underperforming of course.  :evil:

The great hope in the Thrashers roster has to be Pavelec though. I always draft high on my fantasy hockey keepers so this time I took Halak and Rinne over him but I had him last year and when he gets a run in the #1 spot his numbers can be phenomenal; just inconsistency with young goalies is always an issue and the fact that most of the Thrashers defense sucks so they take around 35-40 shots per game on average.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Nov 2010, 11:23
I really like Andrew Ladd myself. The Blackhawks were fucking batshits to get rid of him in my opinion, and it's absolutely no surprise they handed him the captaincy. Dude's always there in the big games, and his hustle is extremely commendable. Note he got the assist on that goal I posted.

Also, Brodeur's definitely in sharp decline but I see yr point.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 22 Nov 2010, 11:51
Yeah, Ladd is a quality player but the one disadvantage to the balancing of the teams approach is that the top teams eventually have to get knocked down a peg themselves and after the Stanley Cup the Blackhawks were probably pushing the salary cap right to the limit so some players had to go.

On the other hand, Ladd is now one of the stars of the roster in Atlanta and is starting to shine in a way he never could behind players like Toews, Kane and Sharp. He already has 7G 14A in 21 games so he's likely to have a banner season and could surpass both his 17G last season and his 34A the season before.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 22 Nov 2010, 13:23
Well, that wasn't 11 weeks too late. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Brad-Childress-fired-Minnesota-Vikings-112210)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Nov 2010, 14:12
So it'll only take another 9 months, one retirement, 5 player visits, some pictures of male genetalia, an unretirement, more Tavaris Jackson disappointment, and like another 5 weeks to get rid of the quarterback, right?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Akima on 22 Nov 2010, 14:31
Weird things happen over the course of a season that you don't expect.
So true. My local football (NRL Rugby League) team was the North Sydney Bears, perennial losers and wooden-spooners who last won league championship in 1922*, but in their local derby matches against the hated** Manly Sea Eagles, the Bears were transformed, and often defeated their much-higher-rated North Shore rivals. Of course they'd put half the team on the injured list doing it, and then lose their next five games, but at least they beat Manly, right?

*   For American readers, barracking (http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#B) for the Bears was kind of like supporting the Chicago Cubs.
** Everybody hates Manly. I think the American equivalent is "Everybody hates the Yankees"?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Nov 2010, 22:45
Well, that wasn't 11 weeks too late. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Brad-Childress-fired-Minnesota-Vikings-112210)

Hee hee hee heeeeee...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 23 Nov 2010, 09:41
Okay, let's recap from earlier...

To summarise: The entire NHL has gone batshit insane?

Then this (http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2010020299&navid=sb:recap) happens.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Nov 2010, 13:27
And Bayern just shat away a 2-1 lead to Roma. 3-2 down with about 4 minutes left.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 23 Nov 2010, 16:24
Noooooooo victor martinez NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUCK
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 23 Nov 2010, 17:32
Okay, let's recap from earlier...

To summarise: The entire NHL has gone batshit insane?

Then this (http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2010020299&navid=sb:recap) happens.  :psyduck:

Holy buttshits! The thing is, watching these games, they're not upsets, the Caps are playing like bitches. No hustle, no desire. Hedberg fuckin' earned that shut-out though, Brodeur better watch his old ass.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Nov 2010, 06:24
Noooooooo victor martinez NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUCK
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 24 Nov 2010, 11:12
To be fair, at this point Martinez is a complete butcher behind the plate. He's only really good as a DH now, and last time I checked Boston has one of those already.

Giants got Huff back, which was probably the biggest offseason concern to me. It's a lot of money, but it's only for two years and they were matching the contract of another team so whatever. Now we just need a shortstop.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Nov 2010, 07:07
Since my friend Ryan is probably still asleep from last night's shenanigans, I'll do it for him:


DIIIIIIMIIIIITARRRRRRRRRR


Edit: He's now got FIVE goals and United are up 7-0. Holy FUCKKKKKK.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 27 Nov 2010, 09:56
I bought Berbatov last week but sold him in anger when he didn't even make the bench. Also got rid of Samir Nasri and Chris Brunt among others. Collectively, I spent sixteen points on transfers.

Collectively they scored seven goals today and my replacements got sweet fuck all.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 27 Nov 2010, 13:42
Ah, fantasy sports. Better at completely infuriating you than perhaps anything else.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Nov 2010, 19:38
And my Warhawks just keep rolling... Coppage with 300 yards and UW-W rolls into the D3 quarterfinals.


Oh, and Bucky had a pretty good day, too.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 28 Nov 2010, 20:07
So Australia can now only take eleven wickets in a test match. Time to fire everybody and start recruiting South Africans.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 28 Nov 2010, 21:04
Depressing.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 29 Nov 2010, 07:59
Okay folks, tonight is El Clásico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cl%C3%A1sico) - when hated rivals Barcelona and Real Madrid play each other. It's always a significant game for both sides but this year it will play a large part in deciding who ultimately wins the league and also because this is arguably the best two teams in the world, with the two best players in the world (Messi and Ronaldo) and the two best young managers in the world.

Some more details here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9235260.stm). You can read more about the extraordinary history of this derby on the wikipedia page I previously linked.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 29 Nov 2010, 09:15
Cutler throws 4 TDs, Manning throws 4 INTs, and parity strikes again!

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 29 Nov 2010, 14:56
I expected a tighter game considering Mourinho's habit of identifying the biggest threats and weaknesses of any opposition his teams face. That was a severely clinical performance from Barcelona and Madrid looked out of their depth. Clearly they expected to be able to muscle Barce out of the game but that turned out to be impossible on the night.

I think that previous criticisms of Ronaldo were justified in that once again he disappeared during arguably the biggest game of the season, whereas Messi was everywhere. I'm aware that the quality of other teams in La Liga has been diminished by the ailing Spanish economy but I think that the diminutive Barcelona magician proved his superiority over tougher adversaries who were hell bent on physically accosting him at every opportunity.

No amount of money would convince me to go into a dressing room with Mourinho after that kind of performance.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 29 Nov 2010, 20:15
Fuck the Dodgers.

Also, it sounds like the Rockies are on the verge of signing Troy Tulowitzki to a ten year extension. Tulo's an awesome player, and shortstop is the new second base in terms of average offensive production which makes him even more valuable, but considering his injury problems Colorado's rolling the dice on this one.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2010, 09:28
Seven years.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 30 Nov 2010, 11:35
Yeah, they effectively picked up the option on his existing contract and then tacked 6 new years on top of that. They're basically making him into the next Todd Helton with this contract. Hopefully for them he doesn't end up like the original during the last few years of the contract, let alone get severely injured.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2010, 12:13
Oh neat. United's down 1-0 to West Ham.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 30 Nov 2010, 13:23
It's now 4-0 to the Irons.

It's even funnier considering the fact that the first two goals were scored by the American Jonathan Spector, who used to play for Manchester United and had never scored a professional goal in his entire career up to this point. If he scores his hattrick against his old employers, that will be even more incredible.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2010, 13:33
I am frankly embarassed to be a United supporter right now.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Nov 2010, 17:01
So Australia can now only take eleven wickets in a test match. Time to fire everybody and start recruiting South Africans.
Sounds like they need some better bowlers.

Unfortunately, they don't exactly grow on trees. We have the same problem in America with baseball and pitching.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 02 Dec 2010, 04:00
And here we are, December 2, 2010 - or, as it will likely be known, "LeBronageddon."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 06:41
Or "the day when FIFA announce the 2018 and 2022 World Cups".

ESPN seem to think that the American bid for 2022 isn't all that strong. I shouldn't take it personally, but I kinda want to cry if they end up being right. I was only 7 in '94, and my parents wouldn't bring me to a game in Foxboro. Having another chance to see a World Cup match in person would be amazing.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: StaedlerMars on 02 Dec 2010, 07:45
And it's Russia, much to the chagrin of my largely UK based facebook feed.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 07:47
And Qatar in 2022.

113th ranked Qatar. You thought FRANCE were bad this year, just wait.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: the_pied_piper on 02 Dec 2010, 07:48
I am happy about this though because there is no way that the country can afford to fund both and Olympics and a World Cup in the same decade with the finances in this state. There is already money being siphoned from grassroots sports and education to help pay for the Olympics in 2012 and I can't even imagine what would happen to them if there was a World Cup being hosted in the UK in 2018 too.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 07:53
I wanted this to work out well. I wanted to travel.

I was hoping either England or Spain/Portugal in '18, and a three-hour drive to Boston in '22.

I don't want to go to Russia. Or Qatar.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: nobo on 02 Dec 2010, 07:57
And Qatar in 2022.

113th ranked Qatar. You thought FRANCE were bad this year, just wait.

Qatar

Average temperature in:
June - 105 F
July - 115 F
August 111 F

I predict first winner from an African nation coming in 2022 WC.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 07:59
First ever shirts v. skins World Cup? Jesus.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 02 Dec 2010, 08:38
Supposedly, all 10 statdiums in Qatar will be air conditioned
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 09:57
Yet another reason I will not go to Qatar.

Don't get me wrong. I hate when it's super hot, but AC doesn't feel right to me.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 02 Dec 2010, 10:01
Yeah I heard there are secret nanomachines in air conditioning that turn your blood into diamonds
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: amok on 02 Dec 2010, 10:16
Gutted Spain/Portugal didn't get 2018 but this is more than offset by the sheer hilarity of a world cup in fucking Qatar.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 10:30
What I've come to gather about Qatar:

-They're not very good at soccer
-The country itself is about the size of Connecticut, with the population of Orlando..or the Orlando metropolitan area or something like that
- It's hot.
Quote from: Jason Sklar as Keith Jackson
It's so hot, the sweat from my undercarriage could irrigate a small radish farm.
-Apparently they don't serve beer there*
-*They will serve beer in stadiums and fan parks, but only FIFA sponsored beer (Budweiser as of current)
-You can pronounce it either kuh-tar or cutter?
-They are hosting next year's Asian Cup, a tournament in which their best finish was in the quarterfinals.
-Has only been a country since 1971.
-They rich, biotch. Either the 1st or second highest per capita GDP in the world, depending on who you ask
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Spluff on 02 Dec 2010, 16:17
I don't know how it's even possible to hold the World Cup in a country where it's illegal to be drunk in public.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 02 Dec 2010, 17:00
I saw something on the news last night about how after the tournament Qatar was going to dismantle all the specially built stadia and donate them to impoverished countries or something? Sounds kind of crazy-cool. Everyone here's bummed out that Australia didn't get 2022 but I'm pretty happy with whoever won as long as they haven't had it before.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: amok on 03 Dec 2010, 09:16
As was pointed out elsewhere; Press Freedom Index (http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2010,1034.html) of the respective vote winners

    1 Netherlands
    14 Belgium
    19 United Kingdom
    39 Spain
    40 Portugal
    140 Russia

    11 Japan
    18 Australia
    20 United States
    42 South Korea
    121 Qatar

Guess Panorama touched a nerve (did anyone see that by the way? hilarious)

And on the subject of Qatar, not only can you basically not drink anywhere, wear revealing clothes or have fun, ever, it's also outright illegal to be gay and women are subservient to men by law. What a splendid country to host the festival celebrating the diversity of world football etc etc

Their stadium porn is terrific though, they must've had a fair whack of oil money left over after the bribes
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: WestEnder67 on 03 Dec 2010, 19:45
I for one can't wait for the 2022 World Cup, if only for the comedy value of a beer-swilling, kilt-lifting army of my countrymen (provided they qualify) descending on the tee-total sharia state that is Qatar.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Jimor on 03 Dec 2010, 22:34
I like how their solution to the average 115F summer temperatures was "Oh, we'll just air condition the outdoors."
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2010, 03:47
Australians - Please account for your shoddy fielding thus far in the Ashes. You've all caught balls before, I've seen it many times. This year every time a ball goes near one of you, you act like it's a cannonball made of hot lava and AIDS.

At this rate, England will be retaining the Ashes and then you'll have a right job getting them back in blighty. I'm not sure I'm ready for a world where England retains the Ashes for three years.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 04 Dec 2010, 05:09
Padres and Red Sox are apparently very, very close to a deal that would send Adrian Gonzalez to Boston. I am pretty happy about this because it gets him the hell out of the NL West.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 04 Dec 2010, 05:38
Yeah I have no idea where our fielding skills went. At the moment I'm counting on Strauss getting greedy and waiting too long to declare so the Australians can just block and slow play long enough for it to rain out (http://www.bom.gov.au/sa/forecasts/adelaide.shtml) and end up a draw.

We had a draw in the election and a draw in the footy and we'd damn well prefer another draw to where this looks like it's going.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Dec 2010, 06:53
Not quite official, but almost official:

Adrian Gonzales to the Red Sox.

Definitely official:

Kevin Youkilis wins the AL gold glove at third base in 2011.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2010, 10:03
We had a draw in the election and a draw in the footy and we'd damn well prefer another draw to where this looks like it's going.

I think the Ashes have draw written all over them this year, which of course would be a coup for the Tourists.

Here is the forecast for tonight: Kevin Pietersen getting his ton early on and then staying in bat with Cook forever and ever and ever. He'll go into brick wall mode after a few overs, just watch.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 04 Dec 2010, 10:19
Man, they aren't having to give up Buchholz, Bard, or Ellsbury for Gonzalez.

That is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 04 Dec 2010, 14:04
Man, they aren't having to give up Buchholz, Bard, or Ellsbury for Gonzalez.

That is pretty awesome.

Ellsbury isn't very good, so San Diego probably got more potential without him since there's no major league player in the deal. I'm a little surprised the Padres didn't demand Buchholz, he overperformed his peripherals last year but he's still under club control for 4 years and that's exactly what the Padres need.

Either way the Pads got completely fleeced. They were going to lose Gonzalez next offseason anyway, but I have to think they could have gotten a better deal than this.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 04 Dec 2010, 14:19
Ellsbury can be very good, and I think at some point he will be very good if he stays healthy. He got hurt early last year and for whatever reason never came back, but in 2009 he did hit .301, steal 70 bases, and scored almost 100 runs while playing very solid defense. He's really quite good when he's on, my only qualms are health and that iirc he hired the Great Satan to represent him at some point.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 04 Dec 2010, 14:35
while playing very solid defense for a Red Sox outfielder.

FTFY
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 04 Dec 2010, 15:36
Hah. Well played, I suppose, but Manny and Jason Bay aside, the Sox outfield is generally pretty decent in the field. For all his faults, J.D. Drew is a solid fielder, Ellsbury catches everything he gets to which is everything, and makes freakishly athletic plays with some regularity, and whichever minor leaguer is replacing our injured left fielder is at least ok.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 04 Dec 2010, 16:05
My problem with Ellsbury is that I get the impression sometimes that he wouldn't need to make a circus catch at all if he didn't sit back so deep and had better instincts. You really can't get away with that without having a Vlad type cannon that lets you get away with taking an extra second or two on a catch. I don't watch enough Red Sox games to really say definitively though. He certainly is fast though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 04 Dec 2010, 16:40
Australians - Please account for your shoddy fielding thus far in the Ashes. You've all caught balls before, I've seen it many times.

I have no idea what the deal is with the Australian cricket team is behind the scenes but the brilliant fielding they were known for until so recently was obviously a result of endless training, because frankly that's the only way to build up that kind of uniform skill level. So I can only assume that the training regime had changed dramatically, and catastrophically. The fielding's actually been declining for several seasons now.

It's kind of hilarious watching the Australians being so inept, not least because one-eyed Australian cricket fans are so obnoxious and give the rest of the country such a bad name and almost single-handedly allow the English in particular to perpetuate myopic and outdated national stereotypes and so seeing them suffer is a rare delight for those of us with a less jingoistic understanding of what it means to be an Australian.

As far as the decline of the Australian cricket team goes, was it ever really going to be any other way? You had, in quick succession, the retirement of the greatest spin bowler ever to play the game, one of the greatest fast bowlers of the modern era, one of the greatest wicket keeper-batsmen the game's seen, a pair of openers who in their heyday were simply brutal and could by themselves crush an opposition, etc. Basically half a team's worth of players who'll be talked about for generations to come. Those kind of players, and the skill-set they brought to the team, are irreplaceable.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2010, 17:44
I'm similarly frustrated by the English pundits pretending that this is some great golden generation of cricketers. Don't get me wrong, they're good. However, ultimately I think that this test and the last has been more or less a gradual capitulation by the formerly invincible Aussies. I still expect a draw but it's vaguely pathetic how just retaining the Ashes will provoke such jingoistic hyperbole amongst my fellow countrymen. We're considerably less embarrassing than we were for my entire life but that's not actually saying much beyond the fact that Australia have hit a valley in terms of their form.

It's good cricket from an English perspective but reading the press the next day is painful. I suppose it's even worse for the home side though, especially if they do allow the Ashes to go back to Lords again with the Tourists.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Dec 2010, 03:44
Ellsbury can be very good, and I think at some point he will be very good if he stays healthy. He got hurt early last year and for whatever reason never came back, but in 2009 he did hit .301, steal 70 bases, and scored almost 100 runs while playing very solid defense. He's really quite good when he's on, my only qualms are health and that iirc he hired the Great Satan to represent him at some point.

Even in 2009 he only OPS'd .770, though. The vast majority of his hits are singles, and he doesn't draw walks well either. He is really fast, I'll grant that. Buchholz would have been more valuable to the Padres, but it doesn't matter because they didn't get either of them. Three prospects for one of the best players in baseball is pretty absurd, I'm not sure if the trade would have been fair even if the Sox had thrown in Buchholz.

Still, he's not going to play the Giants 18 times a year now, so it could be worse.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Dec 2010, 07:52
Man, they aren't having to give up Buchholz, Bard, or Ellsbury for Gonzalez.

That is pretty awesome.

The fact that the Sox keeping Bard makes me so, so very happy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 05 Dec 2010, 11:26
OPS is a misleading stat for someone like Ellsbury though, because he's such a prolific base-stealer. All those singles he gets? Half the time those turn into doubles and triples within a few pitches. The dude is a very good baseball player.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Dec 2010, 13:52
Interesting thread - go from discussion of the Ashes in one post to a commentary on the Red Sox lineup in the next.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2010, 13:56
Suits me just fine!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Dec 2010, 14:40
OPS is a misleading stat for someone like Ellsbury though, because he's such a prolific base-stealer. All those singles he gets? Half the time those turn into doubles and triples within a few pitches. The dude is a very good baseball player.

Except for the 15% of the time he gets caught stealing and those singles become outs? He's a legitimate big league centerfielder, which has value, but is massively overrated. (And that's even using his 2009 percentage, his career number is lower)

Back on the original subject, the deal has apparently fallen through because A-Gon and the Sox couldn't work out a contract extension, and on top of that Jayson Werth just signed a comically oversized contract with the Nationals. Ouch.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 05 Dec 2010, 14:45
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Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Dec 2010, 17:21
Aaaaaaaaaaaand now the deal's apparently back on, supposedly it will be announced tomorrow morning. Werth's still off the table for Boston though, and the Angels are going to go all in for Crawford so I don't know if they're going to get anybody else. I suppose they could resign Beltre but then where would they play Youk?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 05 Dec 2010, 17:57
Left field! He's totally played left field before. It can still happen! Maybe...
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Dec 2010, 08:44
Interesting thread - go from discussion of the Ashes in one post to a commentary on the Red Sox lineup in the next.

Tiny little miniscule sports trophies, who cares.

I mean seriously. I've seen highlights of the Ashes. I could put that fucker in my pocket.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Dec 2010, 08:48
Is it really any better than a trophy which is nearly as tall as me?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Dec 2010, 08:51
Dude, it's all about big flashy trophies.

I stood near the Stanley Cup once. Not only is it big, it is EXTREMELY shiny.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: McTaggart on 06 Dec 2010, 09:11
Man it's got nothing to do with the trophy at all.

It's all about sticking it to the poms.











 :-(
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Dec 2010, 09:12
Dude, it's all about big flashy trophies.

I stood near the Stanley Cup once. Not only is it big, it is EXTREMELY shiny.

Yo

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs713.snc4/63303_452972407528_741252528_5450258_2194396_n.jpg)
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Dec 2010, 09:16
Pictures do not do the shinyness justice.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Dec 2010, 11:23
Well there was the other photo we took with the flash, but I'm trying not to blind the entire forum.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Dec 2010, 11:24
It's like they polished it, and then polished the top layer of polish.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 06 Dec 2010, 22:21
Hahaha oh man that was glorious. Suck it, Mark Sanchez. Suck it long, suck it hard.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Dec 2010, 06:47
Pictures do not do the shinyness justice.
No they do not.

When you're in its presence... you get shivers.

Not bad for a 117-year old 42-guinea silver cup.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Dec 2010, 09:40
Hahaha oh man that was glorious. Suck it, Mark Sanchez. Suck it long, suck it hard.

I actually got tired of trash-talking my friend that likes the Jets in the third. It was getting too embarrassing.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Dec 2010, 15:56
Manchester United topped their Champions League group with a 1-1 draw against Valencia.

Worth noting because infamous waste of money Anderson scored his second goal for the club. It's only taken him 108 games to score that many.

Also worth noting because United would have been the first team to ever go through the group stages without conceding a goal, but Sir Alex started 20-year-old Ben Amos in net.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Dec 2010, 05:45
Triple postin' cos did we forget about this thread OR DID THE RED SOX JUST SIGN CARL CRAWFORD?!?!?!?!?!??!??!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Professor Snuggles on 09 Dec 2010, 05:46
The main thing is the lakers almost lost to the fuccin clippers last night, which is just not okay.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Dec 2010, 06:29
Okay, I'm serious about this now: Selig needs to realign the American League into four divisions:

AL East: Baltimore, Toronto, Tampa, Cleveland
AL Central: Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, Kansas City
AL West: LA-Anaheim, Oakland, Texas, Seattle
AL North: Yankees, Red Sox.

That way, they can slug each other out for their division title.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Dec 2010, 07:13
Your new AL East is the most weak-ass baseball division in history. If only you could put the Pirates in there.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 09 Dec 2010, 07:31
Hey now its no NL West. Or Central.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 09 Dec 2010, 08:31
Your new AL East is the most weak-ass baseball division in history. If only you could put the Pirates in there.

Or switch tampa with kansas city
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 09 Dec 2010, 14:24
Hey now its no NL West. Or Central.

The NL West was the best division in baseball besides the AL East last season, though. It was the only division where 3 teams were viable playoff contenders at the beginning of September, not to mention being the division of the team that ended up winning the World Series. Even though the Padres have been full-on dismantled over the offseason it's still better than either Central division and probably the AL West as well. Doesn't change the fact that the current divisional setup really fucks over Tampa and especially Toronto. One of them should probably get moved to the West, maybe the Blue Jays?

Also, Carl Crawford is good but definitely not good enough to become the highest paid outfielder ever, and that contract is going to be really bad by the end of it when he's in his mid-30s, or at least it would be if Boston didn't have more money than everyone except the Yankees. The Sox will be really really good this upcoming season though, even if some of their pitchers regress which their peripherals indicate they probably will.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 09 Dec 2010, 14:43
Okay, I'm serious about this now: Selig needs to realign the American League into four divisions:

AL East: Baltimore, Toronto, Tampa, Cleveland
AL Central: Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, Kansas City
AL West: LA-Anaheim, Oakland, Texas, Seattle
AL North: Yankees, Red Sox.

That way, they can slug each other out for their division title.

I am curious! Can you explain what this realignment would be attempting to accomplish?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Dec 2010, 15:15
1. It would give the other 12 teams in the AL a better chance at actually making the playoffs.
2. It would mean that, in a three-round playoff (DS, CS, WS) ONE of those two teams would not make the playoffs every year.
3. It would give Fox, ESPN and any other national broadcaster of MLB ratings GOLD by guaranteeing three times the number of Yankees-Red Sox games every year.
4. It would give MLB justification to go to four divisions in the NL as well.

Yes, I've already thought that one out, too:
NL South: Atlanta, Florida, Washington, Houston
NL North: Colorado, Chicago, Milwaukee, Saint Louis
NL East: New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati
NL West: Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Arizona
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 09 Dec 2010, 15:54
Three of the five teams have won the AL East in the past four years though. I think Tampa would probably end up dominating your revised AL East so you'd end up with an even worse situation.

Historically, even with the ridiculous amount of money spent by the Yankees and the Red Sox, other teams have still managed to reach the play-offs. Presumably this will happen again without changing the divisions.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Storm Rider on 09 Dec 2010, 17:59
It doesn't help that the Red Sox now have competent management for a change, though. With the spiraling increase of MLB free agent contracts (after Lee signs this week, there will be 3 120+ million contracts this offseason alone, all on players with substantial risks to their future performance), even the luxury tax isn't really enforcing competitive balance very well. The draft pick compensation system is also really easy to abuse, and some teams (including the Red Sox, coincidentally) have figured that out more quickly than others.

The only real losers in the current alignment are Tampa and Toronto, Baltimore is so bad they'd be bottom feeders in any division. Tampa isn't going to have lightning strike twice like they did from 2008 until last year, they're hemorrhaging players and they don't have the same volume of minor league talent they did to set up this run in the first place. However, that doesn't mean creating a 2-team division is in any way a good idea. I still think the best way to 'fix' the AL East is to swap Texas and Toronto. Texas is big enough under Ryan and Greenberg that they could meaningfully compete and the AL West is weak enough that putting the Blue Jays there could give any team in that division a reasonable chance of reaching the postseason within the next few seasons except for maybe the Mariners. Tampa still gets screwed but I don't see where they could be moved that wouldn't be terrible for them. Maybe if they swapped with the White Sox in the Central but even that's kinda sketchy.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 04:23
Still, Tampa Bay won their division for the second time in three years. There's arguably more of a spread between the teams than any other sport I can immediately think of.
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Post by: jwhouk on 10 Dec 2010, 05:43
All the money in NY and BOS just mean that if they make a mistake, they don't feel it as much as the other 28 teams would.

For example: say the Rangers sign Cliff Lee to a long five-year, Umpteen Million dollar deal - and then, in year two, he blows his arm out. That's going to hurt them in years three through five, to where they probably won't be able to compete. And THAT is going to hurt them in the long run.

Now, say the Sawx sign Cliffy to that same deal, and the same injury happens. Henry and company shrug, write it off as "operating expenses", and go after the next big FA to compensate.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 05:49
Additionally, nine different teams won the World Series in the last decade.

Sure, MLB is dictated by the money but largely, so are all professional sports in the modern era. I'd argue that baseball is one of the least predictable overall.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2010, 05:50
Still, Tampa Bay won their division for the second time in three years. There's arguably more of a spread between the teams than any other sport I can immediately think of.

The Tampa of 2011 will be nowhere as good as the Tampa of the past 4 years.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 06:07
That's basically my point. They had a good run and now they're about to have a bad one. Peaks and valleys. That's why the system essentially works.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 10 Dec 2010, 06:31
Except the point is there are rarely valleys for teams like the sawwwx and the yaaaanks because they are the ones causing the valleys for the teams like Tampa and Oakland, by signing away all of their talent as soon as their contracts are up. Smaller organizations can still draft and develop talent, they just have a limited capacity to keep it because they don't all have a bajillion dollars to spend to keep Carl Crawford or Jason Giambi (once upon a time) or Mark Texeira etc etc.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Dec 2010, 07:14
It would be like Man U and Chelsea signing talent on other EPL squads as soon as they did something good, like win the UEFA Champions League
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Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 07:42
They basically do that anyhow but start at a much younger age than baseball teams. For example, Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo were both signed by Chelsea from then League One team Leeds United. At the time, they were both fifteen years old. Chelsea ultimately paid five million pounds for the pair. Leeds rejected a similar deal for Danny Rose, who was subsequently poached by Spurs instead. This is very common in professional football.

Incidentally, only four teams have ever won the English Premier League in eighteen years.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2010, 07:45
Not to mention everyone United's picked up from Leeds. Cantona, Ferdinand, Alan Smith's hair..
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 08:00
Spare a thought for say, Southampton FC or West Ham United FC, both of whom have brought through an astonishing number of great British footballers over the last twenty years and have won absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Dec 2010, 08:36
Salary caps are a pretty good idea, guys
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 08:43
Salary caps wouldn't help much given the existing infrastructure of both sports. Players would still move to teams more likely to win something.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2010, 08:53
Spare a thought for say, Southampton FC or West Ham United FC, both of whom have brought through an astonishing number of great British footballers over the last twenty years and have won absolutely nothing.

Imagining Gareth Bale wallowing away in the Championship is a frightening thought.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: tommydski on 10 Dec 2010, 09:08
Southampton FC are in League One, not the Championship.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2010, 09:17
Even worse!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Dec 2010, 14:34
Salary caps are a pretty good idea, guys

...that don't work because of one overriding theme in professional sports:

There's no honor among thieves.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 10 Dec 2010, 23:49
If you're going to have a salary cap then you also need to build in allowances for teams that put years into developing star players who they then can't keep because those playes' market worth becomes too high to allow them to be kept under the salary cap. This was the major problem that the Melbourne Storm had this season in the National Rugby League (for those outside Australia, the Storm have been the best team for the last five years or so, but this year it was discovered that for much of that time they'd been massively exceeding the salary cap and cooking the books to disguise the excess player payments; they were stripped of the two premierships they've won in the last three years and were effectively kicked out of the competition for the 2010 season). The Storm's main problem was that were trying to hold onto too many superstar players - but the majority of them, such as Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, and Greg Inglis, were all Storm career-long Storm players who became too expensive for the Storm to keep under the salary cap, because the Storm had made them into such good players. The team I follow, the Canberra Raiders, has a long and proud history of player development and the competition is filled with excellent players who were developed by Canberra. Canberra now has the best young team in the competition (the oldest player in their backline is in his mid-twenties) and it's easy to see them struggling to hold onto the full team in a few years - even though they were all discovered and developed by the Raiders. The salary cap has good intentions but its implementation is rarely fair.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 11 Dec 2010, 00:26
If you're going to have a salary cap then you also need to build in allowances for teams that put years into developing star players who they then can't keep because those playes' market worth becomes too high to allow them to be kept under the salary cap.

That's really only important if you consider letting teams amass talent unfettered to be a goal. I don't. I'd rather have a system that occasionally shortchanges a team that has developed plenty of talent-- if you have so much talent, you should be fine after losing a player or two, after all, unless you are egregiously overpaying them due to incompetent scouts-- than set up a system that rewards teams for raiding what little talent small market teams already have. For example, the combination of market forces and a cheapskate owner once led to the Minnesota Twins baseball franchise unceremoniously ditching anyone on the team who made over a million dollars a season.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 11 Dec 2010, 02:40
Could someone please explain the whole College Football Thing to me ... because I don't get it. There's a bowl selection thing going on behind me and they're talking about computers and rankings and provisional places and ... I don't know, don't the teams with the most points at the end of a season play each other in some sort of super sugar bowl thing? Why the difficulties?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Inlander on 11 Dec 2010, 03:54
That's really only important if you consider letting teams amass talent unfettered to be a goal. I don't. I'd rather have a system that occasionally shortchanges a team that has developed plenty of talent-- if you have so much talent, you should be fine after losing a player or two, after all, unless you are egregiously overpaying them due to incompetent scouts-- than set up a system that rewards teams for raiding what little talent small market teams already have. For example, the combination of market forces and a cheapskate owner once led to the Minnesota Twins baseball franchise unceremoniously ditching anyone on the team who made over a million dollars a season.

I don't know how it is in the US, but in Australia there's basically zero incentive to develop talent. I don't really follow the Australian Football League so I don't know how the salary cap works in that competition, but the clubs in the National Rugby League that do develop talent do so pretty much purely because of an entrenched culture - certainly not because it's the best way to build a succesful team. Consequently the National Rugby League is divided very starkly between "development" teams, and teams which identify talent in other clubs and poach it. Rugby League is a sport with such specalised positions that having an abundance of talent doesn't really come into it - the loss of a star half-back or five-eighth or prop is going to cripple a team regardless of how many other good players it has in other positions. Furthermore, Australia just doesn't have the population that the US has - so the player base is massively smaller, and there just isn't as much talent around, so it's much more difficult for teams to cover the loss of talented players - and yet that loss is forced on teams because of the salary cap.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Dec 2010, 05:41
Could someone please explain the whole College Football Thing to me ... because I don't get it. There's a bowl selection thing going on behind me and they're talking about computers and rankings and provisional places and ... I don't know, don't the teams with the most points at the end of a season play each other in some sort of super sugar bowl thing? Why the difficulties?
The BCS division is a result of evolution, ennui and money.

Every other Division of NCAA Men's football features a championship (I-FCS, II, and III) that involves brackets and seedings.

The BCS (what was formerly known as Division I-A) decided to make agreements with a series of bowl committees to host games. These games were more-or-less post-season "exhibition" games; however, as the years went on, these games become cash cows - especially for cable networks like ESPN (who, by the way, will be broadcasting about three-fourths of all the bowl games this season). Money begat sponsorships, which begat more money, which begat jockeying for position for better teams and better games.

Unfortunately, prior to the BCS system, there rarely was a matchup of No. 1 vs. No. 2. This was because a handful of the bowl committees had agreements between two conferences to have their champions play each other in their bowl game. For example, the Pac Ten and the Big Ten sent their champions to Pasadena every January for the Rose Bowl.

Then, after a great deal of cajoling, begging, pleading (and some would argue bribery), the four main bowls of the BCS (Rose, Orange, Sugar and Fiesta) agreed to host a national championship game between the teams adjudged to be #1 and #2 under the BCS ranking system.

The system has been tweaked, overhauled and derided over the years, but it has (arguably) done its job of producing a number 1 vs. number 2 matchup.

The only problem is, teams like TCU, Boise State, Hawaii and Utah have been on the outside looking in for the championship game. And it is they and their conferences (the "non-automatic-qualifiers" in the WAC, Mid-American, Conference USA, Mountain West and Sun Belt) that are crying long and hard for a playoff.

This has caused congressional hearings, long and loud arguments, and everything else. However, no one wants to change the bowl system as it stands because - wait for it - there's too much money involved.

Personally, I don't see a problem with a formal playoff, and I think just about any college football fan wants a playoff. The thing is that such a playoff would be taken out of the hands of the BCS people and given to the NCAA itself (due to NCAA rules governing sports played under its auspices) - and guess who would get the lion's share of the money from that?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: valley_parade on 11 Dec 2010, 07:10
super sugar bowl thing

If college football had one bowl game instead of like 35, and this was it, I'd watch more college football.

But only if it is the "Super Sugar Bowl Thing".
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 11 Dec 2010, 17:13
Bears - Patriots tomorrow.

This is gonna be ugly.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 11 Dec 2010, 18:46
I hope so! I need something to cheer me up after the funeral, watching Jay Cutler throw 30 interceptions should do it.
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Post by: jwhouk on 11 Dec 2010, 19:23
"Only" 30?
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Post by: Jimor on 12 Dec 2010, 01:19
Could someone please explain the whole College Football Thing to me ... because I don't get it. There's a bowl selection thing going on behind me and they're talking about computers and rankings and provisional places and ... I don't know, don't the teams with the most points at the end of a season play each other in some sort of super sugar bowl thing? Why the difficulties?
The BCS division is a result of evolution, ennui and money.

[...]

Well done, sir! I thought for a moment of replying to the question, but I was sure I'd have at least a 5-page essay by the time I was done, so I didn't.

What I like is their excuse that it would be to rough on the "student athletes" to play the extra playoff games. But of course, that's exactly what they do in division II and III football, where the players really are primarily students first.

If they seeded 16 teams, you'd definitely have all the legitimate contenders for a title included, and you'd also have 15 games that really did mean something rather than 1 game that does, and 29+ games that don't. This also wouldn't preclude having invitational bowl games for the rest of the schools to potentially go to.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 12 Dec 2010, 01:27
Thank you for the explanation. It definitely helps me understand what's going on there.
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Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2010, 15:16
Yeah, the "student athlete" thing doesn't quite fly when my UW-Whitewater Warhawks played FIVE playoff games (including one this weekend, during the middle of finals) to get to the Stagg Bowl.

By the way: the Division III championship is the only one of the three title games to be known as a "Bowl". The I-FBS and II games are simply Championship games.

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Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2010, 15:18
Oh, and did anyone catch the video of the Metrodome's collapse? I agree with the Fox announcers' statement: James Cameron couldn't have done better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh5iE5FA84g&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2010, 15:59
Cutler: 12 of 26, 152 yards, 2 sacks, no touches, two picks and a fumble lost.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Dec 2010, 16:11
At least the Lions beat the Packers!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2010, 17:02
At least the Lions beat the Packers!

Thhbbbpht.  :-P
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Post by: Dazed on 12 Dec 2010, 18:09
Man that was awesome. This is sort of worrying me though, because it's starting to feel like the '07 Pats again, so I'm refusing to be too optimistic. Kinda hard to keep that up when they're consistently beating good teams by 30 points though.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Dec 2010, 23:45
OK, I'm a die-hard Chicago fan and all, but if you're under the impression that we're a good team, you're very mistaken.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Dazed on 12 Dec 2010, 23:49
Better than most other NFL teams!
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: scarred on 12 Dec 2010, 23:55
Have you seen our schedule this year?

And half of those games we've won because the other team were incapacitated with injuries (Miami, Philadelphia), self-destructed with penalties (Green Bay), or the officials blew calls (Detroit 2x).

Take those out and who else have we won against? Dallas, Buffalo, Carolina, Minnesota.

 :|
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2010, 06:36
Last team to lose in the Central wins the division?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 13 Dec 2010, 13:25
Have you seen our schedule this year?

And half of those games we've won because the other team were incapacitated with injuries (Miami, Philadelphia), self-destructed with penalties (Green Bay), or the officials blew calls (Detroit 2x).

Take those out and who else have we won against? Dallas, Buffalo, Carolina, Minnesota.

 :|

Yeah, it's more accurate to say that the Bears are better than a lot of NFC teams, which isn't really the same thing as being particularly good. Everything is breaking Chicago's way this year, since the Vikings and Cowboys are a couple of really talented teams that blatantly quit on their coaches after a bad off-season and are only now somewhat frisky now that their coaches were fired-- that's two division winners up in smoke right there. But more than anything, the big thing is that the NFC West is pretty much the turd in the NFL's punch bowl. This means that someone from the Giants/Packers/Saints group (Probably the Packers, and they are very likely a top 3 team in the conference and have given up the least points in the NFL) will end up missing the playoffs despite the fact that I wouldn't trust the Bears in a showdown with any of them. Basically, I'd say that the Bears are probably better than a bit over half of the teams in the league. Once you factor in the schedules I'm not even sure that they're better than the Dolphins, since they caught Miami just as they were stuck starting Tyler Thigpen at QB. It's been that kind of year.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: BeoPuppy on 13 Dec 2010, 14:11
Have you seen our schedule this year?

And half of those games we've won because the other team were incapacitated with injuries (Miami, Philadelphia), self-destructed with penalties (Green Bay), or the officials blew calls (Detroit 2x).

Take those out and who else have we won against? Dallas, Buffalo, Carolina, Minnesota.

 :|

Meh, isn't that true for every team? Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get screwed by an official?
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2010, 18:25
The streak is over.

The Favrepocalypse has ended.
Title: Re: WE LIKE SPORTS
Post by: Alex C on 13 Dec 2010, 20:28
Meh, isn't that true for every team? Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get screwed by an official?

It sounds nice, but in practice you'll still end up with some teams getting the short end of the stick. The season is simply too short and the margin of error too small in football to really claim that these things always even out from year to year or that all penalties are created equal. It's pretty fair to say that officiating helped the Bears to a win against the Lions and a no call on face masking helped the Packers lose to the Cardinals in overtime. That's effectively a 3 game swing given the way division and conference records are factored into tiebreakers.
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Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2010, 21:20
Good teams overcome bad officiating.
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Post by: scarred on 13 Dec 2010, 21:22
You're a Steelers fan, aren't you? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5444048)
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Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2010, 21:55
No. I'm a Milwaukee Admirals fan. The Head Coach of our team when we won the Calder Cup in 2004 made that comment frequently during our championship run.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 13 Dec 2010, 23:23
Fuck the Phillies. They are officially the Yankees of the National League now, Jesus Christ.
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Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2010, 23:46
I dunno... I'd rather lose to the Phillies than the Yankees, Red Sox or Cubs, personally.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 14 Dec 2010, 04:11
...I don't think the Cubs are going to be gunning for a championship any time soon.
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Dec 2010, 06:09
...I don't think the Cubs are going to be gunning for a championship any time soon.

We can only hope.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Dec 2010, 06:50
...I don't think the Cubs are going to be gunning for a championship any time soon.

But they just spent all that money on a first baseman that can't even hit .200! Of course they'll win.
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Post by: Alex C on 14 Dec 2010, 09:49
Good teams overcome bad officiating.

That always hit me as one of the most brainless platitudes ever. Good teams will tend to come out on top over bad teams all things being equal. That's really, really obvious. But to act like referees can't swing games is just non-sensical. Just ask the Sacramento Kings or the Suns.
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Dec 2010, 14:38
It's more or less a way for a coach to keep his team calm and focused on the task at hand, instead of on things they can't control.
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Post by: scarred on 14 Dec 2010, 20:33
Which is fine, but completely irrelevant because we've already established that bad officiating can turn games (and seasons) around.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 14 Dec 2010, 22:17
I have two words to say regarding bad officiating and its meaningful impact on sports:

Tuck rule.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Dec 2010, 05:52
I bought a Chicharito jersey today!

(because this site had Mexican away shirts for like half off and I can't afford a United shirt right now..)

Oh, yeah. Actual sports. United gave Anderson a four-year extension, which makes no sense to me.

By the time this contract expires in 2015, maybe he'll have scored 4 goals.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 Dec 2010, 12:35
So the Flyers put an end to the Penguins 12 game winning streak during which the strongest team they beat was the Lightning yet of course you'd think that they beat the top 6 teams twice from all the adulation they got and yet the main stories are still all about the fucking Penguins.

In summary: Fuck you Penguins. Fuck you NHL. Sidney Crosby can suck a dick.
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Post by: Alex C on 15 Dec 2010, 12:52
Tuck rule.


It was almost like the NFL felt so bad about how the MLB handled Knoblauch's Phantom Tag that they needed to intervene lest the people of Massachusetts' started flinging themselves into the ocean.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Dec 2010, 19:32
In summary: Fuck you Penguins. Fuck you NHL. Sidney Crosby can suck a dick.

YESSSSSSSSS

And they got beat by my Rangers tonight, 4-1.
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Post by: Armadillo on 15 Dec 2010, 23:01
News update: Our stadium imploded from an overload of white, solid water, and the local team's going to play their next game outside.  At night.  In Minnesota.  In December.

Since I'm a Minnesotan, and therefore clinically insane, I'm actually trying to get tickets to that!  Parkas (and flasks) for all!
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 16 Dec 2010, 05:09
I hope they show that game over here! I love snow games. Enjoyed the latest patriot outing no end!
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Post by: Alex C on 16 Dec 2010, 12:39
It's just too bad that the Vikings will be starting either a rookie or a free agent at QB. I love the concept, but it doesn't look to be much of a game.
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Post by: scarred on 16 Dec 2010, 14:08
But it might very well be our last win of the season! Woo!
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 16 Dec 2010, 15:30
What could be better than see grown men slipping and sliding and drowning in snow, ice and sleet during a football game whilst consuming ridiculous amounts of scotch?
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Post by: jwhouk on 16 Dec 2010, 16:04
...I'm pretty sure that's not what they put in the Gatorade jugs.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 17 Dec 2010, 00:50
It was, I concede, a poorly worded sentence. I shall be drinking the scotch whilst watching the football on TV.

Though your remark kinda makes me wish that it was them who, you know, got drunk. It won't really impact the Viking's season anymore anyway ...
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Post by: jwhouk on 17 Dec 2010, 07:17
I know, it was just that you set it up so perfectly, I had to take the shot. ;)
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Post by: Inlander on 17 Dec 2010, 20:13
Hey Tommy, Leeds vs. QPR today! QPR still clear on top of the table but coming off the back of their first loss for the season. As someone who actually gets a chance to watch these games, do you have any thoughts?
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2010, 07:12
I know they're prone to collapse in weather like this, but hey England, domes?

If the only game I watch this weekend is Bolton v. Sunderland, I will be thoroughly disappointed.
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Post by: tommydski on 18 Dec 2010, 09:11
Hey Tommy, Leeds vs. QPR today! QPR still clear on top of the table but coming off the back of their first loss for the season. As someone who actually gets a chance to watch these games, do you have any thoughts?

Before the game I was hoping for a score draw since we're unbeaten in eight games and our sixth or seventh choice central defensive partnership was playing due to injury. However, it seems QPR just never turned up. Presumably the snow and the intimidation of a confident Leeds and a packed Elland Road destroyed their spirit and we dominated on every part of the pitch throughout. It could have been more than two. We're now three points behind them but they have a game in hand. I have to say that QPR have started to look rather unconvincing of late. They've been living on draws for a long time this season and now people are starting to notice that their previous dominance relied on the talents of a handful of mercurial talents. On a game like today where Taraabt was basically anonymous, the rest of the team seemed to shrivel after ten minutes or so. I'd be worried about teams like Cardiff, Norwich and Leicester taking those automatic promotion places, which would result in a run through the play-off lottery. It's a bit early to panic but still, worrying day for QPR fans again.
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Post by: jwhouk on 18 Dec 2010, 17:00
Dear Auburn and Oregon:

That glass football's nice, but we've got a REAL CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY!

GO WHITEWATER WARHAWKS! TWO THREE-TIME NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! (http://www.centredaily.com/2010/12/18/2410534/coppage-leads-wis-whitewater-to.html)

(http://media.jsonline.com/images/600*361/ap-division-iii-championship-football.jpg)

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Post by: Storm Rider on 19 Dec 2010, 16:16
Zack Greinke traded to... Milwaukee?
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Post by: jwhouk on 19 Dec 2010, 16:31
Zack Greinke traded to... Milwaukee?

Sorry, what? I'm still in shock.

EDIT: This is about the biggest trade in team history since... well, the Fingers/Simmons trade back in 1981.
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Post by: scarred on 19 Dec 2010, 16:41
Quote
The Warhawks completed their second straight 15-0 season, and won their third national championship in four years. They are 57-3 in Lance Leipold's four seasons as coach.

jesus fuck
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Post by: jwhouk on 19 Dec 2010, 17:22
No, sorry, he didn't make the team ;)

This was the sixth straight time we played Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl, which is a record in and of itself (no other team had even appeared in the D3 Championship by itself six times in a row). We've split with the Purple Raiders, though we've obviously won the last two of three and three out of the last four.

Oh, and Lance and I were classmates back in the mid-1980's. :D
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Post by: Yayniall on 19 Dec 2010, 18:05
I started No Show Moreno instead of Ray Rice in my fantasy football playoff game.
 :psyduck:
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Post by: Alex C on 19 Dec 2010, 18:15
Vikings punter thinks that the condition of TCF field is so bad that he expects a real train wreck. I dunno what to say about that since I don't know how much more (if any) thawing of the field can be done between now and monday night, but I do find it funny/sad how many internet tough guys have already committed to the "YOU'RE A PUNTER SO SHUT UP" retort.
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Post by: jwhouk on 19 Dec 2010, 18:20
I shoulda started Woodhead as my WR instead of Welker... I think.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Dec 2010, 08:49
Always go with Woodhead, always.

Never doubt Woodhead.
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Post by: scarred on 20 Dec 2010, 14:01
That poor, poor family.
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Post by: jwhouk on 20 Dec 2010, 17:20
I'm up nine points going into tonight's game at TCFB. She has Cutler and Hester going for her; I have Ryan Longwell. I'd feel better about this game if it was indoors.
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Post by: Yayniall on 20 Dec 2010, 17:39
I'm 2 points behind in mine with only my Longwell playing.=/
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Post by: scarred on 20 Dec 2010, 21:35
Division champs! Bears-Pats super bowl, book it, done.
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Post by: Alex C on 20 Dec 2010, 21:41
I really do hope they make the superbowl. I wouldn't be able to wager against them fast enough.
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Post by: scarred on 20 Dec 2010, 21:57
Is it bad that I've got my hopes up now? But really, the NFC is so balls-awful that I can actually see it plausibly happening.

We'll get slaughtered in the 'Bowl, no matter who the AFC sends after us, but really, if we can grab home field advantage, the road there should be relatively cake.
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Post by: scarred on 20 Dec 2010, 22:10
also

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs032.snc6/166286_10150108382851613_664321612_7551835_5500528_n.jpg)

he's like a kid out there!
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Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Dec 2010, 01:42
The Eagles could put up a pretty good fight considering that Vick can actually throw the ball now.

Kinda weird that it took going to prison to fix that aspect of his game, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth I guess.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Dec 2010, 01:42
Also the Falcons are pretty good, forgot about them.
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Post by: scarred on 21 Dec 2010, 01:53
Yeah, but none of the teams in the NFC playoff race are intimidatingly unbeatable. We dispatched the Eagles, somehow with relative ease, and the Falcons are good but not incredible.

Then again, Seattle's in the hunt and we lost to them earlier this year.

Parity strikes again!
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Post by: jwhouk on 21 Dec 2010, 16:41
I doubt the Bears will make it out of the first round or past the first game.

If they win the SB, I'll eat my hat.
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Post by: jwhouk on 21 Dec 2010, 16:47
Yeah, but none of the teams in the NFC playoff race are intimidatingly unbeatable. We dispatched the Eagles, somehow with relative ease, and the Falcons are good but not incredible.

Then again, Seattle's in the hunt and we lost to them earlier this year.

Parity strikes again!

A point to consider: what if the refs had called that TD in the first game vs. Lions correctly?
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Post by: Professor Snuggles on 23 Dec 2010, 23:57
Yo fuck the Spurs.
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Post by: The Seldom Killer on 24 Dec 2010, 03:17
As an aside from ball related sports, here's a video of the National Trophy cyclocross race in Bradford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXRuptx0Mm8) this year, which shows some of the carnage that took place. I'm one of the people stood on the hill pointing and laughing.
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Post by: jwhouk on 24 Dec 2010, 03:39
Dear Santa,

Thanks for the early Christmas present. Now, can we do something about good health for 2011 and Prince Fielder's contract situation?

Sincerely,
True Blue Brew Crew Fans
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Post by: Professor Snuggles on 25 Dec 2010, 22:21
God dammit bulls lose, lakers lose, at least the thunder pulled it out, ilu so much Durant!
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Post by: Alex C on 26 Dec 2010, 17:22
It's too bad for the Lakers that the West is so loaded. If they could pull a Boston and just roll over for a while without really hurting their standings it'd probably do them a world of good.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 27 Dec 2010, 03:02
Speaking of which, I need to adopt a basketball team because I'm playing NBA Jam and the Warriors suck. All I do is play Stephen Curry and steal/shoot 3 pointers. Who's good but isn't the Lakers or Heat? Right now I'm leaning towards the Celtics or Magic because they're the hardest teams I've faced so far except the Heat.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Dec 2010, 06:26
Bears top the Jets, and now we're one win away from sweeping the division. This is getting nuts.
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Post by: jwhouk on 27 Dec 2010, 07:01
Don't hold your breath.
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Post by: Professor Snuggles on 27 Dec 2010, 12:47
It's too bad for the Lakers that the West is so loaded. If they could pull a Boston and just roll over for a while without really hurting their standings it'd probably do them a world of good.

I'd agree with that except they haven't played most of the really strong teams in the west and lost to the fucking BUCKS by 19 the other night.
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Post by: scarred on 27 Dec 2010, 13:54
Don't hold your breath.

My expectations are so low they may as well be a carpet.


That being said, we made it to the Bowl with Rex Grossman.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs213.ash2/47587_1227440177907_1586130718_31003208_1296469_n.jpg)
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Post by: Dazed on 27 Dec 2010, 16:35
Patriots unstoppable, that and more tonight on 60 minutes!
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Post by: Alex C on 27 Dec 2010, 18:17
I'd agree with that except they haven't played most of the really strong teams in the west and lost to the fucking BUCKS by 19 the other night.

Kobe clearly isn't the kind of player who would cope well with putting the team on autopilot for a while anyway. I can't imagine him putting up with a few weeks of "How much has Kobe has slipped?" or "Resting Kobe is killing the Lakers" stories without going ballistic and trying to put up 50 on everyone. And I mean that as a compliment.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Dec 2010, 13:50
Fuck the whole city of Birmingham. Villa basically bow down and let Ciddy take the top of the table, and now BCFC get a late equalizer to steal 2 points from United.

FUCK EM.
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Post by: Yayniall on 28 Dec 2010, 15:45
(http://i.imgur.com/PQPM5.gif)
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Post by: jwhouk on 28 Dec 2010, 17:57
Don't hold your breath.

My expectations are so low they may as well be a carpet.


That being said, we made it to the Bowl with Rex Grossman.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs213.ash2/47587_1227440177907_1586130718_31003208_1296469_n.jpg)

I have to hate. It's required of me as a member of Cheesehead Nation.
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Post by: tommydski on 28 Dec 2010, 18:12
England retained the Ashes, though I suspect it will be through a draw. Some good cricket being played by the tourists though.
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Post by: squawk on 28 Dec 2010, 20:19
Ah, Spurs. Destroyed Kobe and the Lakers tonight. DEFENSE! OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS! AWESOME TEAM BASKETBALL! Spurs had all of this, the Lakers had none.

Today is a good day

27-4!!!!!!!
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Post by: Professor Snuggles on 28 Dec 2010, 21:22
I really just do not understand what is going on with LA right now. Like this is 3 terrible games in a row. What the fuck.
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Post by: squawk on 28 Dec 2010, 21:34
Yeah it's definitely out of character, but I like it anyway :PPPPP
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Post by: Inlander on 28 Dec 2010, 23:33
England retained the Ashes, though I suspect it will be through a draw.

You mean a drawn series? I honestly don't know what you're basing that on. Both the tests England have won so far have been won by an innings and a shitload of runs. A healthy proportion of their batsmen have been in terrific form all tour - by contrast even the one match that Australia have won so far was marked by the persistent failure of their top order. The only test remaining in the series is being played at the traditionally spin-friendly SCG and Australia have so far shown an extraordinary reluctance to pick Nathan Hauritz, who has plenty of experience at test level and who is arguably the best spinner in the country; meanwhile Graeme Swann has been one of the form bowlers of the series so far for England.

I can see a draw maybe because a draw's always a possibility in test cricket but an Australian win must be incredibly long odds.
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Post by: tommydski on 29 Dec 2010, 12:04
I just think that England have been doing better in the east and obviously the next test is in Sydney so the conditions will favour the home side. I also think that Australia will be playing for pride. I doubt we want to win in Australia as much as they don't want to lose on their home turf.
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Post by: Inlander on 29 Dec 2010, 15:42
Playing for pride still requires a modicum of intelligence about the game, though, which is something this Australian side has conspicuously lacked.

Plus I think the English team will really want to win the Ashes. England have such a poor record here in recent years and to go down in history as the team that beat Australia 3-1 or 2-1 on their home turf after a quarter of a century of disappointment will be a pretty strong motivator, I think.
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Post by: pwhodges on 29 Dec 2010, 15:52
The English captain said exactly that in a radio interview I heard.
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Post by: tommydski on 30 Dec 2010, 14:55
Yeah, I understand that but I honestly think the Aussies will still want it more. England are going into it with the fact that this is already a victory of sorts in the back of their mind and the home side will be thinking that this is their last salvation from bitter humiliation. Ponting is probably out after this regardless, so they might have some further incentive there.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 Dec 2010, 07:27
Plus I think the English team will really want to win the Ashes.

Quote from: that one American football coach a few years ago
You play to WIN the game.
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Post by: jwhouk on 31 Dec 2010, 17:34
That would be the great Herm Edwards - he of the Original Miracle at the Meadowlands.

Meanwhile, can we all agree this was the Year of the Officiating Mistake? That stupid ref flagging the K-State receiver for "excessive celebration" for saluting the fans in the stands essentially cost them the game.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Jan 2011, 09:36
So the votes are in for the six fan-voted players for the NHL All-Stars game: Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Marc Fleury, Toews and Duncan Keith. Four Penguins and two Blackhawks. Snooooooooze. Why the fuck would you pick guys like Crosby and Toews who are gonna be in the game no matter what?
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Jan 2011, 09:52
Yeah, I've given up on expecting anything reasonable at all from the NHL. However, this year the NHL have really outdone themselves in terms of stupidity with a Winter Classic with expected horrible weather conditions still going ahead, featuring the same 2 teams that they shove down everybody's throat at all opportunity; the new NHL Guardians (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=259644&id=61652252465) which is some utter dogshit and the ridiculous new voting system for the All-Star game which has now churned out the same tired crap that they've been peddling since crybaby Cindy joined the NHL.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 2 PLAYERS IN THE NHL, WHAT THE FUCK GUYS? ARGHHHHHHH
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 10:05
I think ESPN finally realized that there are NHL teams besides the Pens and Caps last night. I saw highlights of the Bruins-Leafs and Sharks-Canucks games on SportsCenter!
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 04 Jan 2011, 10:25
Holy crap! Good for ESPN. Shame there were no highlights of the Sabres - Bruins game though, that was insane.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 13:55
Woo, Chicharito scores again!
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Post by: jwhouk on 05 Jan 2011, 15:46
I, for one, welcome our new Guardian hockey overlords.  :-D
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Post by: Inlander on 05 Jan 2011, 16:08
It's only one hour into day 3 of the fifth test in the Ashes but it's obvious that it's either going to be a draw or an English win. God, this Australian team is hopeless - you think they're batting's crap and then they start bowling. In fact this is like watching an Ashes match from about ten years ago with the roles reversed. Anyway congratulations to the English team, it would have been an absolute farce if Australia had managed to somehow get a tied series because the English team has been so clearly superior in every aspect of the game.
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Post by: alli on 05 Jan 2011, 17:14
Woo, Chicharito scores again!

I can’t believe Man Utd a still unbeaten, haven´t exactly been playing like champions. I guess you don´t have to when Chelsea are playing like they are.
Meanwhile Liverpool keep on sinking, it used to make me depressed for a day or two when they lost but now it seems i´m hoping that they loose so we can get rid of that twat who´s in charge.
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Post by: Professor Snuggles on 05 Jan 2011, 19:10
Look at them spurs, losin two in a row. Really okay with this.
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Post by: Inlander on 05 Jan 2011, 19:30
It's only one hour into day 3 of the fifth test in the Ashes

Oops, day 4. Still, everything else I said still applies - even more so now that England have set their highest score ever in Australia and Watson has again been involved in a ridiculous run-out. Maybe he should just stick to hitting boundaries so he doesn't have to run between the wickets? At least this time he had the good manners to run himself out instead of his partner.
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Post by: tommydski on 05 Jan 2011, 22:15
I didn't see the Aussies collapsing like this last week but there we go. The Watson thing was farcical to watch and has basically summed up this final test.

Tremlett, Bresnan and Anderson have been excellent for basically the whole series, which I think has ultimately decided the run of play throughout. Aside from the blip in Perth, the batting in the English middle order has completely outdone the Aussies too, who have looked more than a little listless overall. Assuming England do manage to win in Sydney, the two sides will be level in overall Ashes wins (31 each, 5 drawn) with the next series being played in England. For someone who was born in 1984, this is bizarro world for me.
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Post by: Inlander on 05 Jan 2011, 22:48
Bowling statistics are far too arcane for me to go into, but one simple batting stat speaks volumes about the gulf between the two teams throughout the series: Australia's batsmen have scored 3 centuries in the series, 2 of which were scored by Hussey, while England's batsmen have scored 9, including double centuries to Cook and to Pietersen.

EDIT: and there's no doubt that England are going to win this match. Australia are seven wickets down in their second innings at the moment and still behind by 188, all the specialist batsmen are out (unless you include Smith, but I don't think anybody would), the umpires have offered the English an extra half hour's play today because the match is so close to finished, and there's still a full day's play to go with the only rain forecast being "isolated showers". And if there's one thing that's obvious from the series so far, it's that Australia's batsmen have neither the skill nor the temprament to block out a whole day's play to salvage a draw.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 06 Jan 2011, 00:35
Baseball Hall of Fame votes were revealed today: Alomar and Blyleven in, Jack Morris stays out.

Congratulations, sportswriters, you are spared my wrath this once. Bagwell only getting 40% is pushing it though, that had better be fixed next year before all the really good candidates come up.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jan 2011, 05:52
Bagwell should be in.
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Post by: scarred on 06 Jan 2011, 12:14
(http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hasselbeckchamps-600x337.jpg)

Fuck yeah, Goldeen.
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 06 Jan 2011, 12:39
USA, rewarding mediocrity to the very end.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/mimdeg.jpg)
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Post by: Storm Rider on 06 Jan 2011, 13:59
Bagwell should be in.

Of course he should. I'm saving all of my righteous fury until Bonds is on the ballot though.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jan 2011, 04:19
Well lookee there, we won the Ashes again. I didn't think that was actually possible.
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Post by: Alex C on 07 Jan 2011, 05:09
Bonds should be first ballot, frankly. Leaving him out won't make PEDs go away and whitewashing the history of the sport just ensures the Hall is some subject that makes sports fans argue once a year rather than some place that'd actually be interesting to visit in its own right.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jan 2011, 05:50
Woo, Chicharito scores again!

I can’t believe Man Utd a still unbeaten, haven´t exactly been playing like champions.

According to a blog, that chant I couldn't quite make out was "we're shit and we're top of the league". Mwahahahahahahahaha.
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Post by: tommydski on 07 Jan 2011, 09:07
Well lookee there, we won the Ashes again. I didn't think that was actually possible.

Here's ten reasons (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/reasons-why-poms-wont-win/story-e6frey50-1225955985591) why England won't win (like we just did).

(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jan/Week1/15884325.jpg)
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Post by: tommydski on 07 Jan 2011, 09:34
Incidentally, remember last year around this time when Leeds United beat Manchester United at Old Trafford? Tomorrow we are playing Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium. Early kick off at 12:45pm. I'll try to post links to coverage tomorrow morning.

We'll probably get dicked but it will still be a good match. Both teams tend to play very nice football.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jan 2011, 10:52
I will force you to have babies so I can kill them.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 07 Jan 2011, 13:51
Bonds should be first ballot, frankly. Leaving him out won't make PEDs go away and whitewashing the history of the sport just ensures the Hall is some subject that makes sports fans argue once a year rather than some place that'd actually be interesting to visit in its own right.

I said this in a conversation I had with my dad about the Hall of Fame couple days ago: If you don't think Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame you might as well close it now and get it over with. Joe Jackson and Pete Rose are one thing but Barry Bonds is one of the top three players in baseball history and if he doesn't deserve to be in then you can't reasonably induct anybody who retired after 1990.

I realize I'm not entirely unbiased in this matter but there are a ton of reasons why the arguments regarding PED use and the Hall of Fame are a load of BS and not internally consistent. I'd go into them all but I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in this thread who cares.
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Post by: Inlander on 07 Jan 2011, 15:52

Here's ten reasons (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/reasons-why-poms-wont-win/story-e6frey50-1225955985591) why England won't win (like we just did).


So you've been reading the Guardian's OBO coverage as well, Tommy? Or has the Daily Telegraph's trademark lunacy and jingoism become reached wider infamy in England now? Tabloids, we got 'em.

Here's a nice piece from the reliably excellent Caught by the River website: http://caughtbytheriver.net/2011/01/makes-you-wonder-if-it%E2%80%99s-worth-winning-it%E2%80%A6/ (http://caughtbytheriver.net/2011/01/makes-you-wonder-if-it%E2%80%99s-worth-winning-it%E2%80%A6/)
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Post by: Alex C on 07 Jan 2011, 17:36
I realize I'm not entirely unbiased in this matter but there are a ton of reasons why the arguments regarding PED use and the Hall of Fame are a load of BS and not internally consistent.

Agreed. You pretty much have to call bullshit on the "Museum" claim if you're going to leave out a man who shattered the record books en route to becoming one of the most divisive figures in the history of North American sports.
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Post by: tommydski on 08 Jan 2011, 04:32
People in the UK can watch the Leeds Vs Arsenal game here (http://www.itv.com/watchitv/) on ITV1.

Some more online options for non-UK folks here (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100728&part=sports).
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Post by: est on 08 Jan 2011, 04:55
I was sad for a moment because I couldn't find it on FoxSports, but then I realised it was on one of our Free to Air stations (I think), so hopefully all is good.
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Post by: est on 08 Jan 2011, 05:01
Ok maybe not, because we're 15 mins in apparently, and this thing hasn't started. Fuck you, Australian TV
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Post by: Hairy Joe Bob on 08 Jan 2011, 05:07
Arsenal just don't seem to be clicking just yet. I maybe sense an upset! Though now I've said it...
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Post by: Hairy Joe Bob on 08 Jan 2011, 05:15
Although Arsenal now seem to have stepped up a gear. Playing some lovely stuff. Leeds are making a good account of himselves so far though. And Alex Bruce is the spit of his dad. Same lumbering run, arms pointing out like stubby chicken wings.
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Post by: est on 08 Jan 2011, 05:18
Got a stream working.  Huzzah!
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Post by: est on 08 Jan 2011, 05:19
Arsenal's defenders really have to stop doing dodgy passes at the back.  I've lost count of how many I've seen this season.
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