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WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« on: 27 Sep 2009, 19:26 »

This can't be right. I'm never first.

Anyway, I'm torn. I hope Angus is going to show Marigold that these girls are not better looking than she, but I fear he's just a sex-crazed twenty-something.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #1 on: 27 Sep 2009, 19:30 »

As for me, I wish I could actually hear the tone of Angus's voice as he says that because it could be read two ways - either he is flustered at having to say it again because he does not believe it, or he really does and does not understand why she is asking again.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #2 on: 27 Sep 2009, 19:31 »

This can't be right. I'm never first.

I know what you mean... I was starting to think I would have to start it for the first time ever.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #3 on: 27 Sep 2009, 19:39 »

I thought about making the thread 10 minutes ago but was afraid I would do it wrong. What would I have done to mess it up? Beats me.

And Angus is basically a professional liar. I don't see him feeling weird about telling the same lie twice. Then again, he doesn't usually have to lie to people he gives a crap about.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #4 on: 27 Sep 2009, 19:50 »

Perhaps he'll show her that the other girls are merely abusing myspace angle shots. 
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #5 on: 27 Sep 2009, 20:05 »

I am not entirley sure what it is but the comic looks different, in a good way :D 
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #6 on: 27 Sep 2009, 20:35 »

Ah yes, the eternal paradox: How do the shy asocial nerdy types find girlfriends/boyfriends?

Besides, you know, going to that other place, um, "out" side.


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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #7 on: 27 Sep 2009, 21:00 »

Is it wrong that what stood out the most to me from today's comic was that Angus was reading Jim Butcher? That is awesome.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #8 on: 27 Sep 2009, 21:11 »

Is it wrong that what stood out the most to me from today's comic was that Angus was reading Jim Butcher? That is awesome.
If it's wrong, I don't want to be right.
When I saw that, I felt a little glimmer of respect for Angus.

Creepy masochist or not, he has damn good taste in literature.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #9 on: 27 Sep 2009, 21:22 »

I have personal experience in dating nerd/gamer girls. If Angus knew what she'd do to him in bed he wouldn't be looking at the slutty WoWmen.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #10 on: 27 Sep 2009, 21:41 »

Great way to boost her ego Angus.

Still, ya gotta like the fact that he didn't back away from his words about her being pretty.




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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #11 on: 27 Sep 2009, 21:55 »

Heh, Night elf porn... Reminds me of some "attempted art" i did back when i played Dark Elves in Warhammer...

Yes, I am that big a nerd.

PS: Is it just me or does "Attempted Art" sound like a half-decent band name? If so i call dibs...
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #12 on: 28 Sep 2009, 00:16 »

Ah yes, the eternal paradox: How do the shy asocial nerdy types find girlfriends/boyfriends?

Besides, you know, going to that other place, um, "out" side.


"Out" side? I am not sure what you mean by this, but I am overcome with fear all of a sudden.

I have personal experience in dating nerd/gamer girls. If Angus knew what she'd do to him in bed he wouldn't be looking at the slutty WoWmen.

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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #13 on: 28 Sep 2009, 00:55 »

Err... WHAT ???

Nerd girls who post slutty pictures ?!?!?!?

Whats next ?

Right wing republicans who understand economics ?

Boxers who work as university professors ?

Heroin addicts who win nobel prizes ?

The point of being a nerd is having INTELLIGENCE.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #14 on: 28 Sep 2009, 01:22 »

Err... WHAT ???

Nerd girls who post slutty pictures ?!?!?!?

Whats next ?

Right wing republicans who understand economics ?

Boxers who work as university professors ?

Heroin addicts who win nobel prizes ?

The point of being a nerd is having INTELLIGENCE.


Well see this is just you jumping to the wrong conclusion. You assume that these girls are nerds because they play WoW, but actually they only play WoW because they know nerds play WoW. So they know at least some of them will be desperate losers who will fawn over slutty pictures and giggling and flirting. Nevermind the fact that these women only flirt with the guys because they know none of them know where they live.

All kinds of nerdy things attract these kinds of women eventually. Surely you've seen some of the pictures online of women in way too small tops who are cheering at an unseen game off-camera, controller in hand? You know, those pictures where you can clearly see the Xbox doesn't have the power cord attached?

Although this is not much of a problem these days because these people have found their niche in the world of desperately seeking attention from the wonderful television genre of reality television. Because as we all know, fame equals happiness. Just ask Russell Crowe. Or David Hasselhoff. Or Christian Bale. Or Tom Cruise.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #15 on: 28 Sep 2009, 01:23 »

Marigold didn't think much of their skills, so perhaps their intelligence is limited as well. They could be non-nerds slumming in a nerd activity.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #16 on: 28 Sep 2009, 02:09 »

Exactly!  Slumming. 

On the other hand, I tend to think Angus is going somewhere with this, not just being a jerk.  But then again, Marigold's been living with him for a while, so she probably knows him better. 

BTW, I love the blush when she asks him if he meant his previous statement.  She's so damn... young for someone her age!  But that's a different thread...
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #17 on: 28 Sep 2009, 02:32 »

I keep thinking Sylvester(the cat) saying "you're despicable" in the last panel.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #18 on: 28 Sep 2009, 04:59 »

I'm glad I don't have that problem with other women in my guild being bimbos and trying to seduce the guild leadership, and generally causing drama by being crappy ass players who are only kept around for the boobs...  The women in my guild?  We're all lesbians  :lol:

IRL lesbians, not porn lesbians.  The men don't WANT slutty pictures!  *laughs*
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #19 on: 28 Sep 2009, 06:05 »

Err... WHAT ???

Nerd girls who post slutty pictures ?!?!?!?

Whats next ?

Right wing republicans who understand economics ?

Boxers who work as university professors ?

Heroin addicts who win nobel prizes ?

The point of being a nerd is having INTELLIGENCE.


Boxers who work as university professors... well, at least part time. Vitali Klitschko (Ph.D in Sports Medicine) and a trained teacher (before he began boxing), Wladimir Klitschko, PH.D in Sports Science, too, a teacher.

Heroin Addicts who win nobel prizes? Ernest Hemmingway.  (according to the medical report of the Mayo Clinic, listed in Los Angeles Times, January 11,1961)
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #20 on: 28 Sep 2009, 06:09 »

Almost everyone I know who plays WoW is a girl. The whole "no girls play video-games" shtick is really getting old, since all of my female friends (and myself) are evidence to the contrary, and there's many a study to prove that ladies enjoy games, even just casual games: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/07/01/female-gamers-now-number-28-thanks-largely-to-wii-says-new-study.htm

I liked this strip, it was funny. I really didn't like Marigold's character for a while because I felt like she was an unfunny stereotype, but I'm liking the arcs involving her more now that there's some more character development to go on.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #21 on: 28 Sep 2009, 06:49 »

Weird no one has mentioned this, but I found Angus's reaction to Marigold's query very Faye-esque. Faye tends to diffuse difficult  or uncomfortable situations by being a smart aleck and a bit of a jerk. Apparently Angus does too. For some reason, this amuses me and makes me think they are more alike than we've previously seen.

Oh and in response to the people arguing that nerds wouldn't do something as stupid as post slutty pictures of themselves on the forums... uh I know a lot of nerds. There is a WORLD of difference between book intellect and social intellect. You can be very smart and still post half naked pictures of yourself online to attract boys. I know a guy who is morbidly obese and lives in smelly squalor and he games all day long and when he isn't gaming, he's talking about gaming. He is forever meeting girls who post slutty pics and who'll cyber in character. Not only does he date them online, they frequently fly to where he lives and move in with him without having met him. So the ability to game and spout stats and jargon like DPS does not make you brilliant at making life choices.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #22 on: 28 Sep 2009, 06:54 »

Wasn't it Daffy Duck who said "You're despicable?".

Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar.  Now, if Marigold had more pride in her "intelligence," she'd have no need for low self-esteem.  Beauty is SO overrated, and it's not the only thing in the world that can make a person attractive.  Enough confidence and charisma can make an ugly person EXTREMELY desirable; fortunately for Marigold, confidence and charisma can be learned.  Besides, I bet she actually cleans up pretty nice.  A little make-up, the right hair style...

...But I hope she doesn't.  I like ugly!Marigold.  Not everyone in the world can be beautiful, and her lack of beauty endears her to me (plus, it makes her more interesting to look at).
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #23 on: 28 Sep 2009, 07:24 »

Almost everyone I know who plays WoW is a girl. The whole "no girls play video-games" shtick is really getting old, since all of my female friends (and myself) are evidence to the contrary...

It's true that the Girls Don't Game thing is as stupid as Girls Don't Like Sci-Fi, Ever (Sidebar: Russell T. Davies once came out with that one. And yes, he was completely serious. Way to be in touch with your fanbase, RTD); but the most likely reason that everyone you know who plays Wow is a girl is because you are a girl. Just like most of my bloggy friends are girls, because I am a girl. It just happens that way.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #24 on: 28 Sep 2009, 09:45 »

Wasn't it Daffy Duck who said "You're despicable?".

Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar.  Now, if Marigold had more pride in her "intelligence," she'd have no need for low self-esteem.  Beauty is SO overrated, and it's not the only thing in the world that can make a person attractive.  Enough confidence and charisma can make an ugly person EXTREMELY desirable; fortunately for Marigold, confidence and charisma can be learned.  Besides, I bet she actually cleans up pretty nice.  A little make-up, the right hair style...

...But I hope she doesn't.  I like ugly!Marigold.  Not everyone in the world can be beautiful, and her lack of beauty endears her to me (plus, it makes her more interesting to look at).

What the hell is it with people thinking Marigold is ugly? I think she's very pretty. I've said before that her face is my favorite of all the characters. She's got a great face and she's curvy. She isn't the least bit ugly.

Also, a women can be proud of their intelligence and confident in their abilities in certain areas of their lives and not be at all confident in their femininity or ability to attract a mate. Happens all the gd time!

Angus: YAY! Jim Butcher! Booo! WoW Sluts!  :laugh:
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #25 on: 28 Sep 2009, 10:17 »

Well, all I can say is that online gaming's come a long way from ye olde MUDD, when most female characters turned out to be played by hormone-crazed teen-aged boys. Okay, the 'hormone-crazed' part is an assumption, but not a wholly invalid one.

I concur, madness. All the intelligence in the world cannot necessary help one in social situations. For that, the conventions behind such would have to make sense. I, for one, have rarely found this to be the case.

It's also the running gag on Bones, so I must be right.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #26 on: 28 Sep 2009, 10:43 »

I like ugly!Marigold.  Not everyone in the world can be beautiful, and her lack of beauty endears her to me (plus, it makes her more interesting to look at).
What the hell is it with people thinking Marigold is ugly? I think she's very pretty. I've said before that her face is my favorite of all the characters. She's got a great face and she's curvy. She isn't the least bit ugly.

I was wondering this too. Marigold may not be in the blonde bombshell/sulty brunette/sexy redhead imagery that mainstream culture tells us is "the only pretty", but that doesn't mean that real people (i.e. people not in show biz/marketing) wouldn't find her to be pretty. It's entirely possible Angus actually does think she's pretty, which leads me to this...

Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar.
Someone else said this too, in this thread, I think. Why is Angus a liar? I don't understand.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #27 on: 28 Sep 2009, 12:57 »

Well, all I can say is that online gaming's come a long way from ye olde MUDD, when most female characters turned out to be played by hormone-crazed teen-aged boys. Okay, the 'hormone-crazed' part is an assumption, but not a wholly invalid one.

I concur, madness. All the intelligence in the world cannot necessary help one in social situations. For that, the conventions behind such would have to make sense. I, for one, have rarely found this to be the case.

It's also the running gag on Bones, so I must be right.

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But seriously, if I were Marigold, Angus' comment would make me more upset, not help.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #28 on: 28 Sep 2009, 14:56 »

Marigold isn't pretty because she has bad skin.  Perhaps some people think that zits are pretty.  I am not one of these people.

Her skin might get better in the future.  She might get in shape. She might do something with her hair.  But as she is right now, she is not pretty.  She's not hideous, but she's definitely not beautiful.

Frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with being a regular looking person. :/  The world is filled with them.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #29 on: 28 Sep 2009, 15:37 »

surely now we need a make-over story line. introducing another rather pretty girl into the mix. Raven attacks Marigold... would be a fearsome thing to behold.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #30 on: 28 Sep 2009, 16:11 »

Betcha Raven is one of the other slutty girls
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #31 on: 28 Sep 2009, 16:20 »

Nerd =/= intelligent, and intelligent =/= immune to making a fool of oneself.

As for stereotypes about heroin users being stupid (not touching it beyond disagreement at the universal) and boxers being university lecturers - one of the fighters I most admire from our kickboxing club is a physics lecturer. Which both amuses and pleases me.  :-D
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #32 on: 28 Sep 2009, 16:47 »

Marigold's problem isn't her looks. It's her lack of social skills and experience. And there's no other way to fix that lack but to actually put down the computer keyboard and mouse and (*GASP*) step outside every now and then.

In other words, she needs more nights out with the gang like the one she recently had. Such outings also stand a good chance of solving her lack of boyfriend problem. Unless she just hooks up with Angus, but that would probably have already happened if it were going to.

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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #33 on: 28 Sep 2009, 18:06 »

Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar.
Someone else said this too, in this thread, I think. Why is Angus a liar? I don't understand.

I think mainly because of what Angus does: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1384
Would you trust a guy whose profession is basically pretending to be incompetent?
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #34 on: 28 Sep 2009, 18:17 »

Well....he does only argue against things he believes in....
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #35 on: 28 Sep 2009, 18:43 »

Exactly!  That's not lying (although it's not exactly honest, either).  And strawman is his profession, not necessarily what he does in his personal life.  As my grandfather was known to say, "Eh (*shrug*) - it's a living!" 

Before all the pretty/ugly, intelligent/nerdly debates, someone mentioned that Angus was acting like Faye, defusing the situation with humor/snarkiness (that's a very thin line between those two words!).  That's how he is, it's how he started with Faye when first introduced as "argument guy". 

Witty Banter.  It works, people!  Now quit fighting with each other about personal opinions, and lets hear some! 
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #36 on: 28 Sep 2009, 20:47 »

I don't play the game, or any other MMORPG, so all WoW "humour" flies straight past me. I have to guess  :?  what pally, mobs, tank, DPS, aggro etc. mean from the context, or look them up on-line, which kind of sucks the life out of the jokes. The on-line social life of WoW is easier to understand since it seems to be just a subset of general internet drama. Dark Elf porn would just be Rule 34 in action for example.

I'm not sure where Jeph is going at the moment, but the art's good so I guess I'll just hang on for the ride.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #37 on: 28 Sep 2009, 21:25 »

Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar.
Someone else said this too, in this thread, I think. Why is Angus a liar? I don't understand.

I think mainly because of what Angus does: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1384
Would you trust a guy whose profession is basically pretending to be incompetent?

Sort of like an actor who plays a bumbling person in order to tell a story? Or a politician who plays up the folksy down home charm (oh yeah, you betcha Joe Sixpack)? I guess what I'm getting at is that lying is a pretty much a given in most fields. I'm a medical receptionist and trust me when I say, I lie through my teeth all day long. "Oh it's no problem... it happens to the best of us... I hope you feel better... the doctor is running late because of an emergency... I'm here to help" lies lies lies. I'm there because they pay me and I probably hate your guts and the doctor is running late because he's a lazy slug who takes long lunches and leave your ass waiting.

Lawyers lie. We consistently vote them for president. Doctors lie and tell you it won't hurt much when they know it will. Everyone who has ever sold you something has probably lied to you a little bit. Waitresses lie and pretend to give a rats ass about what you order and how your day has gone, because they want your money.  If you based your trust on someone's job, you wouldn't trust anyone. With the exception of perky people persons, most everyone who works in customer service and wishes you a good day lies to you because  honestly... they don't give a crap if you have a nice day.

Yes I'm a raging cynic today, but lying in your job to make money is not the same as being a lousy person. A lot of people get paid to lie.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #38 on: 28 Sep 2009, 21:51 »

Marigold isn't pretty because she has bad skin.  Perhaps some people think that zits are pretty.  I am not one of these people.

Her skin might get better in the future.  She might get in shape. She might do something with her hair.  But as she is right now, she is not pretty.  She's not hideous, but she's definitely not beautiful.

Frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with being a regular looking person. :/  The world is filled with them.

I didn't say she was beautiful, but she is pretty. She's got a few spots, they come and go! It's not like she has serious acne.

I don't know about anyone else, but I think that quite a few regular looking people are very pretty and some people who look beautiful when they're all dolled up look quite 'regular' without all that stuff on.


Sort of like an actor who plays a bumbling person in order to tell a story?


When you think about it, an actor gets paid to lie about everything.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #39 on: 28 Sep 2009, 22:25 »

Angus is such a digital pimp. 
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #40 on: 28 Sep 2009, 22:35 »

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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #41 on: 28 Sep 2009, 22:36 »

Somebody guessed that Angus would do this. They are wise.

Also, Angus is a good guy, stop acting like he's a manic asshole.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #42 on: 28 Sep 2009, 22:43 »

Sort of like an actor who plays a bumbling person in order to tell a story?
There's a huge difference between Peter Sellers and Steve Martin when it comes to Inspector Clouseau.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #43 on: 28 Sep 2009, 23:01 »

Hey, he's doing his best to support her.

I like Angus in this.  Marigold's reaction is priceless.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #44 on: 28 Sep 2009, 23:09 »

Marigold cracked me up in this one. I can't believe she's going there!

Meanwhile, Angus is once again the awesome guy friend.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #45 on: 28 Sep 2009, 23:21 »

The whole dynamic between Marigold and Angus has really made me like him. At first I was sorta iffy/neutral but the last few strips he has been in has definitely caused me to warm up to him.

Also, I agree with the people who think Marigold is pretty. She has a little bit of acne but it's not a huge problem or anything, she's curvy but by no means fat and I really don't see what's wrong with her hair. I mean, it's not really anything special but I don't think it looks bad either.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #46 on: 29 Sep 2009, 00:30 »

The whole dynamic between Marigold and Angus has really made me like him. At first I was sorta iffy/neutral but the last few strips he has been in has definitely caused me to warm up to him.

Yeah... He's sort of gone the sarky-but-basically-kind-big-bro route in the last few strips.

Yes I'm a raging cynic today, but lying in your job to make money is not the same as being a lousy person. A lot of people get paid to lie.

As Greg House would put it: "Everybody lies." It isn't the lying that makes us lousy people; just being alive is enough to do that. My goal is to become less lousy. It's a work in progress...  :oops:
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #47 on: 29 Sep 2009, 00:35 »

Marigold's problem isn't her looks. It's her lack of social skills and experience. And there's no other way to fix that lack but to actually put down the computer keyboard and mouse and (*GASP*) step outside every now and then.

In other words, she needs more nights out with the gang like the one she recently had. Such outings also stand a good chance of solving her lack of boyfriend problem. Unless she just hooks up with Angus, but that would probably have already happened if it were going to.



I agree - Marigold's got plenty to work with, but she does nothing with it.  Better figure than Faye's, definitely.  Needs to do some skin care, could try a different hairstyle.

She _isn't_ on the high side of pretty.  But she sure as hell isn't ugly.  She strikes me as a pretty average sort of girl with an extreme unworldliness and lack of knowledge about certain things (ie. hygiene) who has reacted to not being classically gorgeous by shutting out all of the looks area, thus not allowing herself to be as nice as she could be.

Angus' relationship with her...hard to say.  To a degree he seems to have accepted Marigold as the way she is - negatives and all - and not pushed her out of the protective hole she's crawled into.  But that isn't necessarily the best thing for her, as shown by her enjoyment of her night out courtesy of Dora & co.
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #48 on: 29 Sep 2009, 00:52 »

Its funny how much information you get from a WEB COMIC of people who dont exist in reality. :D
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Re: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009
« Reply #49 on: 29 Sep 2009, 01:17 »

Nerds, heh.
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