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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1200 on: 22 Nov 2010, 17:12 »

Maybe it will grow on me
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1201 on: 22 Nov 2010, 19:31 »

i never really understoon the whole "hipsters are supposed to dig kanye" thing pitchfork has got going on. anyone care to explain?
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1202 on: 22 Nov 2010, 19:40 »

I've never cared about a Kanye album before and I kind of like this one.

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1203 on: 22 Nov 2010, 19:42 »

i never really understoon the whole "hipsters are supposed to dig kanye" thing pitchfork has got going on. anyone care to explain?

They seem to regard him as the perfect mix of immensely creative and batshit insane.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1204 on: 22 Nov 2010, 21:37 »

No way it can get a 10.0 when the best track isn't even on the album. It's a really good album though.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1205 on: 22 Nov 2010, 22:02 »

I've never cared about a Kanye album before and I kind of like this one.

this is exactly where i'm at.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1206 on: 23 Nov 2010, 06:22 »

Romance Is Boring is still my album of the year, I am such a dang false
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1207 on: 23 Nov 2010, 06:31 »

Romance is Boring is the best album ever

I mean, if they released the last five tracks as an EP that would STILL be the best record ever
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1208 on: 23 Nov 2010, 07:21 »

It just makes me so happy when I listen to it, sometimes I don't even understand it
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1209 on: 23 Nov 2010, 07:38 »

The Tron soundtrack is pretty awesome mix of daft punk base glitch noises and classic film score music.

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1210 on: 23 Nov 2010, 09:20 »

i never really understoon the whole "hipsters are supposed to dig kanye" thing pitchfork has got going on. anyone care to explain?

I have no clue, they seem to just randomly dig semi-mainstream hip-hop.

Anyway thread, it's my turn to post lists.


Great:
Aloe Blacc - Good Things
Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
Castevet - The Echo & The Light
Das Racist - Sit Down, Man
The Dopamines - Expect The Worst
Hanggai - He Who Travels Far
The Hextalls - Get Smashed
every Japandroids single
Joie De Vivre - The North End
Mass of the Fermenting Dregs - Zero Comma, Irotoridori no Sekai
Nails - Unsilent Death
Paper Tiger - Made Like Us
Shad - TSOL
Tobacco - Maniac Meat
Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
Red City Radio - To The Sons & Daughters of Woody Guthrie

Psst, Gaslight Anthem! These guys do the whole Americana/cowpunk thing better than you:
Two Cow Garage - Sweet Saint Me

Good, but not great:
We Are The Union - Greap Leaps Forward
Wooden Shjips - Volume 2
Sundowner - We Chase The Waves
Tokyo Police Club - Champ
Thermals - Personal Life
Teenage Fanclub - Shadows
Ted Leo/Rx - The Brutalist Bricks
Street Dogs - self titled
ASMZ - Kollaps Tradixionales
The Sainte Catherines - Fire Works
The Riot Before - Rebellion
Olafur Arnalds - ...And They Have Escaped the stop having really long album titles, people from Iceland, I still can't pronounce Sigur Ros' last album
The New Pornographers - Together
Moon Duo - Escape
The Measure [SA] - Notes
Marnie Stern - Self Titled
Look Mexico - To Bed To Battle
Kaki King - Junior
Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
Girls - Broken Dreams Club EP
Free Energy - Stuck On Nothing
Flatfoot 56 - Black Thorn
Fake Problems - Real Ghosts Caught On Tape
Dungen - Skit I Allt
Das Racist - Shut Up, Dude
Cut Chemist - Sound Of The Police
Broken Social Scene - Forgiveness Rock Record
Brant Bjork - Gods & Goddesses
Blood Red Shoes - Fire Like This


Could have been better:

Midnight Juggernauts - The Crystal Axis
MGMT - Congratulations
Gaslight Anthem - American Slang
Eux Autres - Broken Bow
Both Eels albums
Boris & Ian Astbury - BXI
The Album Leaf - A Chorus of Storytellers
Vampire Weekend - Contra
Royksopp - Senior
RJD2 - The Colossus


Y U NO MAKE GOOD ALBUM

Wintersleep - New Inheritors
Everything Wavves does, ever, ever, ever.
Dear Animal Collective side projects, you sucked too. I mean, I heard like 26 seconds of one Avey Tare song, but it wasn't good at all.

Best shows:
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2. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists/Screaming Females
3. Wilco/Mavis Staples (Solid Sound Festival)
4. Flatfoot 56/Refuse Resist/The Damaged
5. The Damaged/Lenny Lashley's Gang of One/Midnight Saints
6. Outrageous Cherry (Solid Sound Festival)
7. Birds In The Air/three other bands that sucked
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1211 on: 23 Nov 2010, 15:56 »

I honestly wasn't that crazy about the Two Cow Garage record, to be honest man. It was OK. Good list otherwise. (also you reminded me to get the Free Energy record and check out The Thermals)
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1212 on: 23 Nov 2010, 15:58 »

If only the printers would get it fucking PRINTED and send it to Suburban Home, so they in turn can send it to me.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1213 on: 23 Nov 2010, 22:58 »

Lykke Li's new single is up for download for free on her site.

It's pretty cool!
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1214 on: 24 Nov 2010, 00:32 »

She's such a lil bamf

Also feel free to add me to the "i never paid attention to kanye but shit this new record is super good" bandwagon

his new record is really really enjoyable to me.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1215 on: 24 Nov 2010, 01:32 »

Dammit, I guess I gotta listen to it now.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1216 on: 24 Nov 2010, 05:01 »

I'll come down on the side of "I actively disliked Kanye before this record, or at least his rapping, but think this is probably top 3 best records I've heard this year."

A big part of it is he lets better rappers take the lead more, but honestly, cmon, how fuccin good is "All of The Lights"
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1217 on: 24 Nov 2010, 07:21 »

Dammit, I guess I gotta listen to it now.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1218 on: 24 Nov 2010, 07:26 »

Oh, what, really? Nicki Minaj is the most interesting thing to happen to American pop music in years. Also: her videos are ridic.

Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.

 That said the album is like, aight on first listen.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1219 on: 24 Nov 2010, 07:49 »

but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga....

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1220 on: 24 Nov 2010, 08:09 »

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1221 on: 24 Nov 2010, 08:12 »

Really good melodic punk.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1222 on: 24 Nov 2010, 08:32 »

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd. She's all gimmick, a clever hack whose managed to convince millions that crazy hats and lots of eye shadow are somehow the same thing as musical ability or talent in general. She's interesting only insofar as she's a great case study in the power of marketing and the willingness of the American public to rush to worship at whatever kitschy, overrated altar of hype is currently being called The Next Big Thing regardless of any actual merit. Her music is tired, derivative. It pushes no boundaries despite the bewildering arguments to the contrary. Even her outfits, while certainly weird, are often little more than garish Halloween costumes, rife for parody and fully deserving of it. She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1223 on: 24 Nov 2010, 09:24 »

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

 Lady Gaga is a pop star.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1224 on: 24 Nov 2010, 09:39 »

Sorry, that was excessively reductionistic. I am in the process of getting tattooed, posting from my phone. Will be more eloquent later.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1225 on: 24 Nov 2010, 10:52 »

Devin Townsend update on Deconstruction.  Not having to do with 2010 exactly, but it doesn't matter because he is Devin Townsend

Holy shit Dev is so fucking Canadian. The opening bit of that video is the most Canadian thing I've ever seen.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1226 on: 24 Nov 2010, 13:07 »

Andrew WK just tweeted something about a new album.

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1227 on: 24 Nov 2010, 13:50 »

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't do it deliberately, but you've substituted "interesting" in the original post (and the post Kieffer was referencing) for "exciting" in your own post, and that radically changes the argument to something quite different to what Kieffer was saying. Which renders the rest of your post pointless, I'm afraid.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1228 on: 24 Nov 2010, 13:53 »

I'm not a fan of Gaga's music really, but her stage persona and the way she's gained her significant following would qualify as "interesting," I think. "Exciting?" "Riveting?" Maybe not. But "interesting"? Well, we're talking about her (and this isn't the first discussion we've had on the matter, by a long shot).
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1229 on: 24 Nov 2010, 14:34 »

Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.

 That said the album is like, aight on first listen.

Yeah but like, Gaga broke in 2008, right? Her reign in pop is in full swing. We are in the midst of the Gaga Dynasty.  I'm thinking of who's coming next to get her. Kanye I don't really know what to do with. He's pop because he's huge but ostensibly still a rapper of some kind. He definitely is starting to trade in nonsensical combinations of grandiose imagery which speaks to his success and his understanding of pastiche, but I dunno if he quite fits.  Katy Perry's such a cartoon as to be practically blank. I couldn't tell you anything about her. Katy Perry? Who's Katy Perry? The brunette with the giant eyes and giant boobs? What tricks does she do?

Nicki, unlike Perry has fucking chops.  She outshines everyone she guests for. In my head, 'Lil Freak,' 'Get It All,' 'Letting Go,' 'Bottoms Up' and 'Knockout' are all Nicki songs. Monster is different because there are so many guests. She's a great female rapper with a playful pop sensibility and American pop has been pretty fucking slim on women rappers for a while now.

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1230 on: 24 Nov 2010, 21:15 »

I've never cared about a Kanye album before and I kind of like this one.

Yeah, basically this.  Don't really having any opinion on any Kanye album before this one, and this one is pretty ok.  Not something that I'm amazed with, but it's better than his previous work.

As far as 2010 stuff goes, I still haven't heard anything that's topped The Gentlemen's Butcher. 
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1231 on: 24 Nov 2010, 21:28 »

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd. She's all gimmick, a clever hack whose managed to convince millions that crazy hats and lots of eye shadow are somehow the same thing as musical ability or talent in general. She's interesting only insofar as she's a great case study in the power of marketing and the willingness of the American public to rush to worship at whatever kitschy, overrated altar of hype is currently being called The Next Big Thing regardless of any actual merit. Her music is tired, derivative. It pushes no boundaries despite the bewildering arguments to the contrary. Even her outfits, while certainly weird, are often little more than garish Halloween costumes, rife for parody and fully deserving of it. She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.

At least she isn't a "look how fucking sexy I am" kinda pop artist, like that katy perry bullshit.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1232 on: 24 Nov 2010, 21:31 »

Look at how weird I am and how much makeup I can have put on me is much better.
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« Reply #1233 on: 24 Nov 2010, 21:34 »

Well yeah duh
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1234 on: 24 Nov 2010, 21:54 »

You were a goth in highschool weren't you?
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« Reply #1235 on: 24 Nov 2010, 22:00 »

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1236 on: 24 Nov 2010, 23:29 »

New Kanye is unbearably boring.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1237 on: 25 Nov 2010, 01:13 »

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1238 on: 25 Nov 2010, 01:14 »

Yes, we live in the age of the internet.

Here is a (very incomplete) list of music I've listened to and owned this year. I'll do my best to update it in the coming days.

 - I love it I love it I love it so much

Swans
Nest
Ital Tek
Deerhunter
Solar Bears
Ramadanman / Pearson Sound
Girl Unit
Squawk
Keith Fullerton Whitman
Instra:Mental / dBridge

 - Pretty great, to be honest

Cloaks
Jam City
Starkey
Hyetal
Space Dimension Controller
The Internal Tulips
Cosmic Revenge
Subeena
LCD Soundsystem

 - First I said “No”, then I was all “Yeah”

Breach
Loops Haunt
Slugabed
Swindle
DJ Nate
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Lego
Transparent Sounds
Altered Natives
Kingdom
Taz Buckfaster
Peverelist
Forest Swords

 - I can’t tell where the irony ends and the enjoyment begins

Lil B
Nite Jewel

 - Points for effort I guess

Rudi Zygadlo
Jimmy Edgar
Eskmo
Optimum

 - I need some time

Point B
DJ Rashad
DJ Roc

  - I expected better

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Squarepusher
FaltyDL
Ikonika

 - Please stop you’re boring me

Gorillaz
Girl Talk
Four Tet
Bassnectar
Pretty Lights
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1239 on: 25 Nov 2010, 01:33 »

New Kanye is unbearably boring.

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1240 on: 25 Nov 2010, 01:35 »

Yes, we live in the age of the internet.

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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1241 on: 25 Nov 2010, 03:09 »

speaking of which, Marla Hansen just dropped a new single without anybody noticing. crossing my fingers that she's got a new release in the works. i cannot get enough of her.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1242 on: 25 Nov 2010, 03:31 »

Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.

 That said the album is like, aight on first listen.

Yeah but like, Gaga broke in 2008, right? Her reign in pop is in full swing. We are in the midst of the Gaga Dynasty.  I'm thinking of who's coming next to get her. Kanye I don't really know what to do with. He's pop because he's huge but ostensibly still a rapper of some kind. He definitely is starting to trade in nonsensical combinations of grandiose imagery which speaks to his success and his understanding of pastiche, but I dunno if he quite fits.  Katy Perry's such a cartoon as to be practically blank. I couldn't tell you anything about her. Katy Perry? Who's Katy Perry? The brunette with the giant eyes and giant boobs? What tricks does she do?

Nicki, unlike Perry has fucking chops.  She outshines everyone she guests for. In my head, 'Lil Freak,' 'Get It All,' 'Letting Go,' 'Bottoms Up' and 'Knockout' are all Nicki songs. Monster is different because there are so many guests. She's a great female rapper with a playful pop sensibility and American pop has been pretty fucking slim on women rappers for a while now.

Yeah but like, listen to her record. It's not actually good at all, really. There's a couple decent tracks, and then there's messes like that will.I.am bullshit. It's not anywhere close to an interesting record, it's just more dirty-souf style rap shit, which I love, but she doesn't rep it that well. I dunno if someone else is actually more interesting as like "the next thing," although I know all y'all are still sleeping on The-Dream but he ain't new, I just don't really think you can call Minaj the next big exciting thing.

Gaga completely changed the way we think about Pop Music. Her videos, her concerts, have brought about a completely new paradigm in what pop music is allowed to do. Think about how crazy thriller was back in the day, or purple rain, and then think about the fucking Telephone  video and how completely mindblowing that shit was. No one was expecting that from her, and whether or not you liked it, it was a fucking marker. Now look at Kanye's Runaway video, etc. They've taken pop music from being nothing but singles and filler tracks that you hear and forget, and made it into a spectacle again, which is exactly what it should be. I guess you can give JT some credit on this too irt the goes around comes around video from FSLS but these two, and especially Gaga, have made it an art. Regardless of whether you like her music, you gotta give her credit for making pop music interesting again.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1243 on: 25 Nov 2010, 04:43 »

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't do it deliberately, but you've substituted "interesting" in the original post (and the post Kieffer was referencing) for "exciting" in your own post, and that radically changes the argument to something quite different to what Kieffer was saying. Which renders the rest of your post pointless, I'm afraid.

Oh man, so I did. Definitely unintentional. That being said, my post is still completely valid. She's not even interesting beyond the fact that it's interesting to look at why people are going so nuts over her i.e. she's only interesting insofar as she illuminates certain widespread cultural tendencies. On her own (music, outfits, image etc.) there's nothing of interest to speak of.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1244 on: 25 Nov 2010, 04:59 »

So then, if there is nothing interesting about her, which I'll grant for the sake of the argument, what has happened in American Pop Music recently that is more interesting than the people I listed. Lets say in the last 5 years.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1245 on: 25 Nov 2010, 08:05 »

She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.

This. Although, I find her ability to sell herself so well pretty remarkable. Apparently she is a huge part of the "creative" effort behind her music and image, so I guess I could give her that. Saying she's better than Kanye though? Bullshit.
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1246 on: 25 Nov 2010, 08:07 »

I always thought that Lady Gaga, and correct me if I'm wrong because I was not alive during the 80's, is basically Madonna
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1247 on: 25 Nov 2010, 08:43 »

I always thought that Lady Gaga, and correct me if I'm wrong because I was not alive during the 80's, is basically Madonna

I think Madonna must have made more of an impact, because there was nothing quite like her before. Plus, there were tons of big pop stars after Madonna in the 90s, so Gaga isn't really anything new. They only seem to differ style-wise, cause Gaga wears retarded shit.
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« Reply #1248 on: 25 Nov 2010, 15:09 »

yeah Gaga is Madonna only twenty years too late to actually be innovative or special
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Re: 2010 in Music
« Reply #1249 on: 25 Nov 2010, 16:03 »

So then, if there is nothing interesting about her, which I'll grant for the sake of the argument, what has happened in American Pop Music recently that is more interesting than the people I listed. Lets say in the last 5 years.
Mainstream pop music? Honestly, I tend to avoid the stuff precisely because there isn't anything more interesting than Gaga. I suppose we could mention MIA or Kanye, but I'd have to say for the most part it's unexciting stuff. This isn't just alt-rock snobbery, though--comparing this decade to previous ones, there just hasn't been a lot happening. There haven't been new genres gaining relevance, and new sounds have been largely derivative; the two biggest sounds, pop-country and hip-hop, have been in creative decline for some time. Arguing Gaga is the best thing happening isn't saying much in a situation so bereft of excitement.
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