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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #200 on: 02 Mar 2010, 20:51 »

i'd skip The Jesus Lizard entirely and go straight to the Rapeman album (i think it is still in the mediafire thread).
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #201 on: 03 Mar 2010, 04:08 »

Beyond all that, you'll find that jazz is a pretty incestuous genre, so I'd recommend finding a musician you like (Davis, as we've seen, is an excellent example), reading about them and finding out who they worked with, and seeing where that leads you. It's how I got into jazz years ago when I really didn't know what I was talking about.

This. John Coltrane was in Davis' band for some time and he went on to have a successful career of his own, making wonderful albums. The obvious one is A Love Supreme but I'm fond of Blue Train. (Although I always thought it should be called Blue 'Trane.)
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #202 on: 03 Mar 2010, 05:13 »

Guys, where do I start with Why?

I need to know them (him?) pretty well by two weeks time.
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« Reply #203 on: 03 Mar 2010, 05:45 »

Are you going to see them live? If that is the case and you want to be familiar with the songs they will most likely play you should grab Eskimo Snow (the latest), Alopecia (my favourite), and Elephant Eyelash (the album where Why? became a band and integrated more non-hip-hop elements). If you find you like those and seeing them live has converted you into a big fan, go back and visit the earlier albums where it was just Yoni.

If you want to dig a littler deeper, you could grab the Hymie's Basement album which is a collaboration between Yoni and Fog. You might also like the band Hood, who are awesome in their own right but also relevant to this post because collaborated with Why? (and Doseone) on their 2001 album Cold House.

I feel like I should elaborate about Eskimo Snow. Even though that is the album most of the live material will come from, I probably wouldn't start with that album. It is a bit of a headscratcher for anyone who has read anything about Why? because it is pretty much not a hip hop album at all. Maybe in spirit, if you will allow me to say such a silly thing. I would get Alopecia and Elephant Eyelash which are closer to what most people think of when they think Why?. Let those two really sink in and then move on to Eskimo Snow which is a surprising and rewarding album.

The most important piece of advice I can give you is pay attention to the lyrics. Yoni Wolf is a truly brilliant lyricist. I think every single Why? song has at least a few gems in it. Some of them, like "Good Friday", are basically 100% gems. Listening to the albums on headphones is probably a good idea. There is a lot going on in these songs and I am a pretty big fan of paying attention to the small details.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #204 on: 03 Mar 2010, 06:15 »

The reason I need to know about them is because the station's head of music has signed me up with an interview for Yoni on the 18th and I have absolutely no idea what to ask him, nor do I know them at all except in a 'oh yeah, I've heard of these guys' kind of way.

I've so far listened to Elephant Eyelash and enjoy it. Eskimo Snow is catching my interest a lot more though, so I'll give that a couple more spins.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #205 on: 03 Mar 2010, 06:36 »

I won't deny that Why? has some serious songwriting talent, but jesus does his voice grate. All of Seattle pretty much disagrees with me, though.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #206 on: 03 Mar 2010, 07:06 »

ask him about Hymie's Basement
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #207 on: 06 Mar 2010, 13:18 »

hey guys what is a good starting point for Cheap Trick
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #208 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:06 »

So, I like Cap'n Jazz, American Football and Owls. What should I get by Joan of Arc, Make Believe and Owen? Should I get anything by Sky Corvair? I know that people love the shit out of Ghosts and Vodka and that I should listen to them, though I haven't gotten around to it yet.

Essentially: Help me navigate the dense catalog of Los Bros. Kinsella and their associates plz.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #209 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:11 »

Get all the Make Believe records in order. The very first self titled EP is the best thing they did. The three LPs are all good too. I miss this band and I hope they come back one day.

Owen's discography is decent but I'd start with the American Football album first.

If you really must try JOA, might as well give Joan of Arc, Dick Cheney, Mark Twain a shot.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #210 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:23 »

For Ghosts and Vodka you should probablly start with Addicts and Drunks because it is the best
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #211 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:35 »

It is also their complete discography.

Also, if you like Ghosts and Vodka, you might like the band Pele.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #212 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:47 »

I've already got the American Football LP! So should I just not bother with Owen?

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #213 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:54 »

You should. It is good music to put on when you are trying to get someone to make out with you. Unless they listen to the lyrics.

Personally I would grab No Good For No One Now first. If you like that you will probably like any of his other records.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #214 on: 11 Mar 2010, 08:36 »

Sparklehorse?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #215 on: 11 Mar 2010, 11:07 »

I'd go chronologically.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #216 on: 11 Mar 2010, 15:35 »

Sparklehorse?

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #217 on: 12 Mar 2010, 12:33 »

Sun Ra? I've got and love Space Is The Place to a ridiculous amount but don't really no where to go next.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #218 on: 14 Mar 2010, 20:48 »

Ok, so can anyone tell me where to start with Elliott Smith?  I've heard so many good things, and I feel like his music is something I'd like.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #219 on: 14 Mar 2010, 21:34 »

I am no expert but I started with Figure 8 and was pretty hooked.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #220 on: 23 Mar 2010, 09:34 »

XO and Either/Or are also particularly good.

Guys, The Melvins.

Tell me where to start with The Melvins.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #221 on: 23 Mar 2010, 13:45 »

Depends what you want. Bullhead's where to go for their sludge side, but you might find the Atlantic period of Houdini, Stoner Witch or even the post-Big Business team-up work like (A) Senile Animal and Nude With Boots more accessible.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #222 on: 04 Apr 2010, 10:30 »

Beck.

i listened to 'one foot in the grave' because i have a boner for calvin johnson.  it was great.  but uh... now what? where do i go from here?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #223 on: 14 Apr 2010, 21:12 »

Where should I start with Meshuggah?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #224 on: 14 Apr 2010, 21:24 »

Obzen's as good a place to start as any

Either that or Chaosphere
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #225 on: 16 Apr 2010, 19:19 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #226 on: 17 Apr 2010, 01:14 »

Beck.

i listened to 'one foot in the grave' because i have a boner for calvin johnson.  it was great.  but uh... now what? where do i go from here?

Guero is my favorite, but I think most people would say Odelay is his best?

Sea Change might be the most like one foot in the grave.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #227 on: 17 Apr 2010, 14:22 »

From there you could go The Information --> Guero --> Odelay --> Mellow Gold. Midnight Vultures, Muations and a lot of the weird odd and ends have some good songs but they're not essential imo. Beck's last album was pretty cool, you could listen to that before The Information.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #228 on: 25 May 2010, 22:37 »

Where should I start with Eluvium?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #229 on: 25 May 2010, 23:24 »

Copia.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #230 on: 15 Jun 2010, 23:20 »

ok so i really want to download that new Devo album but i have never gotten into Devo and i feel like i should listen to some of their older stuff first. what should i steal from the internet?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #231 on: 15 Jun 2010, 23:23 »

Q:We Are Not Men? A: We Are Devo! or Freedom of Choice
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #232 on: 16 Jun 2010, 01:08 »

The first three proper records, Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!, Duty Now for the Future and Duty Now for the Future. Are incredibly strong. The compilation of early demos and recordings, Hardcore Devo, is also pretty well essential.

Another fun thing is watching videos of the band performing and giving interviews on YouTube.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #233 on: 16 Jun 2010, 01:25 »

The compilation Devo's Greatest Hits is what really got me into them way back in the day.
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« Reply #234 on: 27 Jun 2010, 00:00 »

The first three proper records, Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!, Duty Now for the Future and Duty Now for the Future. Are incredibly strong. The compilation of early demos and recordings, Hardcore Devo, is also pretty well essential.

Another fun thing is watching videos of the band performing and giving interviews on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cadA5iANN2o

I'd also recommend their first EP, Be Stiff, if only for "Social Fools" and the title track.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #235 on: 28 Jun 2010, 08:15 »

Where should I start with Prince?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #236 on: 01 Aug 2010, 19:04 »

I know there's at least one person here who's a big Cradle of Filth fan.  Is there any good place in particular to start with them?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #237 on: 01 Aug 2010, 19:28 »

V Empire.  a lot of people would say you don't need anything by them other than that.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #238 on: 02 Aug 2010, 11:03 »

I couldn't say how I'd feel about it now, but when I was into Cradle of Filth, Dusk...And Her Embrace was my favorite.

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« Reply #239 on: 02 Aug 2010, 13:35 »

I know there's at least one person here who's a big Cradle of Filth fan.  Is there any good place in particular to start with them?

I always considered Midian their most accesible album. Older albums are more ... black metal, a bit rawer, maybe, and newer ones are more polished. Still metal, but Midian is the point where true black metal fans started shouting about selling-out and not being kvlt and not being true.

So, start with Midian and think about which way you want to go!
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #240 on: 02 Aug 2010, 13:54 »

Where should I start with Prince?

I'd say Purple Rain or Dirty Mind, though his compilation album The Hits is loaded with awesome songs and is probably the best place to start for a new Prince fan.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #241 on: 08 Aug 2010, 09:01 »

Is this thread exclusive to starting with bands, or can I ask where to start with bands that record in a format ideal for vinyl/analog? So far I've got Bottomless Pit and Black Keys....
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #242 on: 09 Aug 2010, 08:19 »

Shellac sound incredible on vinyl.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #243 on: 09 Aug 2010, 12:30 »

Jay Reatard sounds much, much better on vinyl than CD.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #244 on: 09 Aug 2010, 12:44 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #245 on: 09 Aug 2010, 14:35 »

While, technically, I have already started with Neil Young by way of Harvest, but I don't really know where to go from there.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #246 on: 09 Aug 2010, 14:39 »

Everybody Knows this is Nowhere was my starting point. It's a good one, too. But I imagine in a second here Tommy or Johnny or somebody like that is gonna jump on this with a far more detailed response to your query.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #248 on: 09 Aug 2010, 17:11 »

Chris don't be a dick

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« Reply #249 on: 09 Aug 2010, 17:21 »

welp my work here is done

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