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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #250 on: 16 Jun 2010, 01:25 »

The compilation Devo's Greatest Hits is what really got me into them way back in the day.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #251 on: 27 Jun 2010, 00:00 »

The first three proper records, Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!, Duty Now for the Future and Duty Now for the Future. Are incredibly strong. The compilation of early demos and recordings, Hardcore Devo, is also pretty well essential.

Another fun thing is watching videos of the band performing and giving interviews on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cadA5iANN2o

I'd also recommend their first EP, Be Stiff, if only for "Social Fools" and the title track.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #252 on: 28 Jun 2010, 08:15 »

Where should I start with Prince?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #253 on: 01 Aug 2010, 19:04 »

I know there's at least one person here who's a big Cradle of Filth fan.  Is there any good place in particular to start with them?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #254 on: 01 Aug 2010, 19:28 »

V Empire.  a lot of people would say you don't need anything by them other than that.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #255 on: 02 Aug 2010, 11:03 »

I couldn't say how I'd feel about it now, but when I was into Cradle of Filth, Dusk...And Her Embrace was my favorite.

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« Reply #256 on: 02 Aug 2010, 13:35 »

I know there's at least one person here who's a big Cradle of Filth fan.  Is there any good place in particular to start with them?

I always considered Midian their most accesible album. Older albums are more ... black metal, a bit rawer, maybe, and newer ones are more polished. Still metal, but Midian is the point where true black metal fans started shouting about selling-out and not being kvlt and not being true.

So, start with Midian and think about which way you want to go!
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #257 on: 02 Aug 2010, 13:54 »

Where should I start with Prince?

I'd say Purple Rain or Dirty Mind, though his compilation album The Hits is loaded with awesome songs and is probably the best place to start for a new Prince fan.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #258 on: 08 Aug 2010, 09:01 »

Is this thread exclusive to starting with bands, or can I ask where to start with bands that record in a format ideal for vinyl/analog? So far I've got Bottomless Pit and Black Keys....
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« Reply #259 on: 09 Aug 2010, 08:19 »

Shellac sound incredible on vinyl.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #260 on: 09 Aug 2010, 12:30 »

Jay Reatard sounds much, much better on vinyl than CD.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #261 on: 09 Aug 2010, 12:44 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #262 on: 09 Aug 2010, 14:35 »

While, technically, I have already started with Neil Young by way of Harvest, but I don't really know where to go from there.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #263 on: 09 Aug 2010, 14:39 »

Everybody Knows this is Nowhere was my starting point. It's a good one, too. But I imagine in a second here Tommy or Johnny or somebody like that is gonna jump on this with a far more detailed response to your query.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #264 on: 09 Aug 2010, 15:17 »





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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #265 on: 09 Aug 2010, 17:11 »

Chris don't be a dick

(I second Everybody Knows This is Nowhere, holy crap)
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #266 on: 09 Aug 2010, 17:21 »

welp my work here is done

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #267 on: 11 Aug 2010, 05:47 »

Everybody Knows this is Nowhere was my starting point. It's a good one, too.

That's a good one to start with. Harvest is an unfocused, borderline uncharacteristic record but if you liked at least some of it, then you're probably going to enjoy his better records a lot more. Skip the self-titled debut, you can come back to that later. If you preferred the rockers - his first record with Crazy Horse is Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, essentially a two guitar blow out. If you preferred the folk/country songs, there's another weird mess of a record called After The Goldrush which is actually really great. I think you really have to hear these three records before you embark on The Ditch Trilogy, which is indisputably his best material.

The Ditch Trilogy refers to Neil's wilderness years after the accidental success of Harvest. He was booked to play a worldwide stadium/arena tour and was basically expected to reprise the Harvest material. Instead, Neil being Neil, he more or less entirely played new material he had written after Nashville or indeed, was writing whilst on tour. The combination of his distaste for large arena style shows, constant financial and creative disputes with his own touring band, guilt from the death of Crazy Horse guitarist Danny Whitten and persistent alcoholism made the tour a living hell, captured aptly on the sadly deleted but widely-bootlegged live album Time Fades Away, which features no songs from his previous studio records. This one might take a while to click but it's worth hearing before moving on to Tonight's The Night, which is rightfully described as "a drunken Irish wake of a record". Dedicated to the memory of Whitten and former roadie Bruce Berry, both of whom had died of drug overdoses, Young lead his band through a series of dark, deeply personal songs. Essentially recorded live from the floor, Tonight's The Night is a unique record in the sense that it was more or less improvised on the spot and indeed, the performers were also rolling drunk throughout. Regardless, it's a dour masterpiece of raw, undiluted mourning.

Understandably wary of releasing the difficult, inebriated Tonight's The Night, Young's record company delayed the release until after the superb On The Beach, which is for me his career highlight. Alternately rocking and downbeat, it was the first time Young had found the perfect compromise between the two sides of his music. Side One is relatively upbeat (defiant but also scathing and sarcastic) but Side Two is an absolute bummer, featuring several folky ruminations on the trappings of fame, the demise of Young's second marriage to actress Carrie Snodgrass and the general disillusionment felt by the inhabitants of the West Coast in the wake of the demise of sixties idealism, replaced by a collective hangover of apathy, distrust and guilt. Clearly on a roll, Young reunited Crazy Horse and cut the equally brilliant Zuma, a guitar heavy cousin of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere with the naked emotional exposure of the preceding Ditch Trilogy. The following records are decent but in truth, Young never really managed to scale the same peaks of creative brilliance ever again. American Stars N Bars, Comes A Time, Rust Never Sleeps and Hawks & Doves have their moments, some people make an impassioned defence of the bizarre Trans but overall, I don't ever listen to anything post eighties.

Incidentally, Neil was also the subject of one of the best books ever written about rock music - the biography Shakey. That's the best buy you could make if you're looking to get into Neil.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #268 on: 11 Sep 2010, 13:27 »

Guys, guys.
Sonic Youth.
I only heard "Kool Thing" And "Teen Age Riot". I liked both.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #269 on: 11 Sep 2010, 17:49 »

I really like their most recent album The Eternal. It's pretty poppy I guess, I thought it was really accessible and it has definitely gotten me attracted to their older stuff.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #270 on: 11 Sep 2010, 17:57 »

I think generally EVOL and Sister are the ones agreed on to begin with as they are probably their best albums? Personally I've always been a big fan of Bad Moon Rising. Also Confusion is Sex/Kill Yr. Idols. But everything before their move to Geffen, and everything in recent years (since Murray Street) has been good.

So: Listen to Sister. If you like it, go backwards in their catalog, if you still prefer Daydream Nation (listen to it as well) then go forward.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #271 on: 12 Sep 2010, 17:55 »

So, listening to the albums after Daydream Nation and before Murray Street isn't mandatory to appreciate their body of work?
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« Reply #272 on: 12 Sep 2010, 21:04 »

Mandatory? What a strange way of thinking about it.  Dirty and Washing Machine are each fantastic.  They may not be as unquestionably influential as other Sonic Youth albums, but you don't have to be an obsessive or a collector of all things Sonic Youth to appreciate them. 

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #273 on: 12 Sep 2010, 21:06 »

Oh hey guys, gimme the lowdown on Tortoise. I saw them at ATP and they were maybe my favourite band of the whole weekend.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #274 on: 12 Sep 2010, 21:48 »

Ignore their last two albums and you'll probably be good.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #275 on: 12 Sep 2010, 22:00 »

More detail, plx. They are completely different than what my second-hand impressions of them led me to believe. Are they a band that have considerably changed their sound or was I just under the wrong impression as to what they are about?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #276 on: 12 Sep 2010, 22:21 »

Go with either Tortoise or Millions Now Living Will Never Die
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« Reply #277 on: 13 Sep 2010, 04:05 »

Guys, guys.
Sonic Youth.
I only heard "Kool Thing" And "Teen Age Riot". I liked both.

As has been already hinted at, for the most part their really great era was from formation to around 1988. That encompasses the self titled mini album up to Daydream Nation, which was essentially the watershed for this band. Personally I absolutely love the Confusion is Sex/Kill Yr Idols split because it represents the period of time when the group was quite raucous, primitive, scary and relatively unique in terms of their sound. There's a wonderful atmosphere on this disc, which has gradually made me regard it as being as essential as their two indisputably perfect albums Evol (gun to my head, my favourite) and Sister. These two records represent the point where the band found the exact compromise between really memorable songs and just a touch of white noise here and there.

After that, Daydream Nation essentially marks the point whereby the band solidified their sound and they've more or less stayed there ever since. If you really like that record, chances are you can keep buying their records in order right up to the present day. They've all been solid since then, if that's what you want.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #278 on: 21 Sep 2010, 13:03 »

Oh hey guys, gimme the lowdown on Tortoise. I saw them at ATP and they were maybe my favourite band of the whole weekend.
I started with TNT, and it's still my favourite of theirs, so I'd recommend that.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #279 on: 14 Oct 2010, 06:49 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #280 on: 15 Oct 2010, 13:36 »

I've been listening to What's Going On and Let's Get it On a lot lately. I want more soul + doo wop in my aural diet, where to go from here?
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« Reply #281 on: 15 Oct 2010, 19:56 »

I've been listening to What's Going On and Let's Get it On a lot lately. I want more soul + doo wop in my aural diet, where to go from here?
Pretty much all the Motown/Stax output from around then. Being a bit less general, listen to Otis Redding. Best voice.
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« Reply #282 on: 19 Oct 2010, 09:29 »

Black Keys? My girlfriend has an album on her iPod, but I don't remember what the hell it's called.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #283 on: 19 Oct 2010, 16:23 »

Tom, get Night Beat and One Night Stand: Live at the Harlem Square Club by Sam Cooke. Probably the single most influential soul singer in the genre's history.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #284 on: 19 Oct 2010, 18:41 »

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« Reply #285 on: 19 Oct 2010, 21:58 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #286 on: 06 Nov 2010, 09:20 »

Jay Reatard?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #287 on: 06 Nov 2010, 09:21 »

Get the Matador singles compilation, I believe it's in the Mediafire thread
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« Reply #288 on: 06 Nov 2010, 10:20 »

And don't skimp on his pre-solo stuff. Terror Visions was incredible.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #289 on: 04 Dec 2010, 18:49 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #290 on: 16 Dec 2010, 08:46 »

Suicide?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #291 on: 16 Dec 2010, 08:57 »

Venetian Snares

I may or may not get shit for this but I say just snag a copy of Rossz Csillag Alatt Született and be done with it
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« Reply #292 on: 16 Dec 2010, 09:00 »

Doll Doll Doll is pretty cool too.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #293 on: 16 Dec 2010, 09:51 »

Suicide?

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« Reply #294 on: 16 Dec 2010, 11:18 »

Man spotify has a lot more options than just two albums, and only one of them is called Suicide, and Spotify claims it was released in 2004 (but I just had a look at the track listing and it seems to match up, so I'll listen to that).
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« Reply #295 on: 16 Dec 2010, 11:23 »

How weird! Yeah, the first came out in 1977 and the second in 1980. The first one starts with a song called "Ghost Rider."

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« Reply #296 on: 17 Dec 2010, 08:42 »

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People generally say to start with Rossz, which is pretty melodic, which is good advice as long as you realize it's not a typical album (insofar as Venetian Snares even has a "typical" album)--it samples from a lot of jazz and modern classical. From there you might try Detrimentalist, which is a revival of '94-ish Drum n  Bass done startlingly well, or Cavalcade of Glee and Dadaist Happy Hardcore Pompoms, which is closer to typical for them (i.e. really really fast breakcore).
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« Reply #297 on: 20 Dec 2010, 12:56 »

How weird! Yeah, the first came out in 1977 and the second in 1980. The first one starts with a song called "Ghost Rider."
There is another band called Suicide, they play death metal I think. They produced albums in the mid-naughties.
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« Reply #298 on: 20 Dec 2010, 13:27 »

Oh right, it's a pretty simple name. I guess it was kind of elitist for me to assume he was talking about Alan Vega/Martin Rev Suicide, but I honestly have no idea how any band with the same name could be remotely as good or innovative.  But hey, maybe death metal Suicide is aight, who knows.

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« Reply #299 on: 21 Dec 2010, 07:48 »

You were talking about the right Suicide, Spotify was in the wrong. They have the self-titled album listed as 2004, which is faulty!
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