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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #50 on: 18 Jan 2010, 12:38 »

Plus Substance has the b-side disc which is pretty ace.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #51 on: 18 Jan 2010, 17:22 »

Where to start with Gang of Four?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #52 on: 18 Jan 2010, 17:26 »

Entertainment!
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #53 on: 18 Jan 2010, 17:38 »

Entertainment! and Solid Gold are the only two really great albums. They fell off pretty dramatically after that.

After that move on to The Minutemen and Fugazi if you aren't already familiar with them.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #54 on: 18 Jan 2010, 17:43 »

And maybe Solanki and Bilge Pump after that, if you'd like to hear the way other Leeds bands continued to owe a debt to Gang Of Four.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #55 on: 18 Jan 2010, 18:05 »

Entertainment! and Solid Gold are the only two really great albums. They fell off pretty dramatically after that.

Entertainment! is the most essential, but if you like them, you probably want Another Day/Another Dollar as well, if for nothing other than the song "To Hell With Poverty." The Peel Sessions are good, too. The material on them is all from the first few records.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #56 on: 18 Jan 2010, 18:40 »

The Peel Sessions are not just good. They are essential listening.
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« Reply #57 on: 18 Jan 2010, 18:56 »

Yep. They are really good.

Also, I keep hearing about Pere Ubu. A cursory glance at wikipedia tells me that this might be a challenge considering the scope of their discography (they are also from my hometown!). But if anyone can tell me where to start, I'd really appreciate it.
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« Reply #58 on: 18 Jan 2010, 21:05 »

Granted, Gang of Four's Peel Sessions are amazing.

Aww man, Pere Ubu is one of those bands I punked out on. I love the first three albums, but after I heard those my interests shifted and I've yet to hear The Art of Walking or The Tenement Year. You could start chronologically like I did.  The Modern Dance is really, really excellent.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #59 on: 18 Jan 2010, 21:25 »

Is that Scott Walker cat worth a listen?

I keep seeing his name tossed around.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #60 on: 18 Jan 2010, 21:39 »

I skipped over gang of four and went straight to Minutemen
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« Reply #61 on: 18 Jan 2010, 21:47 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #62 on: 18 Jan 2010, 21:54 »

Yep. They are really good.

Also, I keep hearing about Pere Ubu. A cursory glance at wikipedia tells me that this might be a challenge considering the scope of their discography (they are also from my hometown!). But if anyone can tell me where to start, I'd really appreciate it.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #63 on: 18 Jan 2010, 23:56 »

Is that Scott Walker cat worth a listen?

I keep seeing his name tossed around.
Depends on what you mean, since he has two distinct modes - pop singer (early career) and avant garde weirdo (late career).
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« Reply #64 on: 19 Jan 2010, 00:22 »

Depends on what you mean, since he has two distinct modes - pop singer (early career) and avant garde weirdo (late career).

I like pop singers and avant garde weirdos.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #65 on: 19 Jan 2010, 03:53 »

Also, I keep hearing about Pere Ubu

For Pere Ubu I would suggest the boxset Datapanik in The Year Zero if you can find it, as it collects a number of early Singles and includes the first few albums as well. Covers pretty much all of their best stuff.

I'm going to see Pere Ubu in a month, and I cannot wait. Love that band.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #66 on: 19 Jan 2010, 08:38 »

guys i think jens just hated on gang of four

i vote we burn him at the stake
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #67 on: 19 Jan 2010, 11:12 »

I'm going to see Pere Ubu in a month, and I cannot wait. Love that band.

Dave Thomas is hilarious live.  He constantly is in a bad mood, storms off the stage at least once a song, yells at the soundman... it's all very entertaining.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #68 on: 19 Jan 2010, 11:24 »

You should probably start signing your posts if you're both posting from that account from now on.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #69 on: 19 Jan 2010, 12:16 »

guys i think jens just hated on gang of four

i vote we burn him at the stake

I think maybe he is just saying he likes the Minutemen more?

I know I do.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #70 on: 19 Jan 2010, 12:24 »

oh that reminds me, where should i start with the minutemen?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #71 on: 19 Jan 2010, 12:29 »

What Makes a Man Start Fires?

Double Nickels on the Dime is good, but too long to be the first thing you hear by them.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #72 on: 19 Jan 2010, 12:31 »

Where to start with New Order?
Of the recent albums, Get Ready is my favorite. Avoid Waiting for the Siren's Call!

On a very different note: where do I start with Nadja?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #73 on: 19 Jan 2010, 12:35 »

Double Nickels on the Dime is good, but too long to be the first thing you hear by them.

that's where I started
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #74 on: 19 Jan 2010, 12:48 »

I like pop singers and avant garde weirdos.

In that case, for his earlier solo material go with Scott. It has several of the famous Jacques Brel songs as well as the incredible Montague Terrace (In Blue). For his more experimental work I'd suggest you go straight for The Drift. Can't help you with his pre-solo work with The Walker Brothers, they never did anything for me. I liked him a lot better after he'd gone weird and started doing songs with titles like The Old Man's Back Again (Dedicated To The Neo-Stalinist Regime).
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #75 on: 19 Jan 2010, 13:12 »

Double Nickels on the Dime is good, but too long to be the first thing you hear by them.

totally disagree.  that's the "if you only hear one album by this band..." album for them.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #76 on: 19 Jan 2010, 13:53 »

I don't think that is really the spirit of this thread though.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #77 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:42 »

In that case, for his earlier solo material go with Scott. It has several of the famous Jacques Brel songs as well as the incredible Montague Terrace (In Blue). For his more experimental work I'd suggest you go straight for The Drift. Can't help you with his pre-solo work with The Walker Brothers, they never did anything for me. I liked him a lot better after he'd gone weird and started doing songs with titles like The Old Man's Back Again (Dedicated To The Neo-Stalinist Regime).

Cheers!

And another one,(although this is really more of a 'where to continue') the Mountain Goats?
I loved The Sunset Tree but found Get Lonely pretty dull.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #78 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:43 »

Is Introducing the Minutemen any good? Or should I I really get ahold of What Makes a Man Start Fires?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #79 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:51 »

Double Nickels on the Dime
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #80 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:55 »

For the Mountain Goats I'd definitely recommend All Hail West Texas next. It kind of has a similar feel to The Sunset Tree, in my opinion. After that if you want to go with his higher fidelity work try Tallahassee, and then Heretic Pride. If you like the lower quality boombox recordings of All Hail West Texas more try The Coroner's Gambit
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #81 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:59 »

I didn't even know Introducing the Minutemen existed! I guess that's the idea behind it, isn't it? I still think What Makes a Man is a better start than Double Nickels.

As far as The Mountain Goats goes, when you say you're trying to figure out where to continue from The Sunset Tree and Get Lonely, do you mean those are the only two records you've heard? If that's the case and you like TMG as a band with a fuller sound, you could go for Tallahassee or Heretic Pride. The latter is more or less all about or from the perspective of the same two characters, while Heretic Pride is more diverse.  If you want to start getting into TMG's earlier, more sparse stuff, listen to All Hail West Texas.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #82 on: 20 Jan 2010, 21:56 »

Guys, The Ex.

Where do I start with The Ex.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #83 on: 20 Jan 2010, 22:27 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #84 on: 21 Jan 2010, 05:04 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #85 on: 21 Jan 2010, 05:54 »

Is that Scott Walker cat worth a listen?

I keep seeing his name tossed around.

Get Scott 4 (chamber pop) and Tilt (avant-garde).
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #86 on: 23 Jan 2010, 18:04 »

Where should I start with indie pop & electronic music from the last two years? I have been really out of the loop.

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« Reply #87 on: 23 Jan 2010, 18:06 »

you start by finding a better genre of music to listen to.
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« Reply #88 on: 23 Jan 2010, 18:19 »

Where should I start with indie pop & electronic music from the last two years? I have been really out of the loop.

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Last 2 years? I don't know, depends on what sort of electronic music you're talking about here. Crystal Castles was in 2008 I think, that was popular. More recently Passion Pit have gained a lot of attention for being the new MGMT and Fuck Buttons made industrial music that people liked. MIA is also popular. There's also some good stuff out of Australia - Midnight Juggernaughts, Cut Copy, etc.

Those are the indie electronic acts that I can think of off the top of my head for the last two years. More generally with electronic music dubstep and its substrains have been really taking off, but they don't suck Daft Punk's dick enough to be enjoyed by indie boys.

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« Reply #89 on: 23 Jan 2010, 18:38 »

Where should I start with indie pop & electronic music from the last two years? I have been really out of the loop.

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what, you mean like Ladytron?  their most recent album is fucking fantastic.
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« Reply #90 on: 23 Jan 2010, 19:20 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #91 on: 23 Jan 2010, 19:26 »

What Makes a Man Start Fires?
Double Nickels on the Dime is good, but too long to be the first thing you hear by them.

going to have to trust my new buddy alex here, sorry any people with differing opinions!
(i'lll give it a listen when i am a bit less angsty about life)
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« Reply #92 on: 23 Jan 2010, 19:33 »

Where should I start with indie pop & electronic music from the last two years? I have been really out of the loop.

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Klaxons and Shit Disco.



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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #93 on: 23 Jan 2010, 23:44 »

Where should I start with indie pop & electronic music from the last two years? I have been really out of the loop.

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Just skimming my itunes here

Apparat, Bears in Heaven, Battles, Camera Obscura, Burning Hearts, Ellen Allien, Flairs, Imogen Heap, Handsomeboy Technique*, Jens Lekman, Pyramiddd, Press On Randy, SomethingALaMode, Tegan and Sara

*Her music is actually really hard to find so I would be willing to send an album for you to download

Edit: wait last two years? That would knock Apparat and Handsomeboy out
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« Reply #94 on: 24 Jan 2010, 03:24 »

James Brown

I'm serious guys someone tell me what is the best James Brown release to get first. I know all the singles and famous tunes and whatnot but I really have  no idea about records.
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« Reply #95 on: 24 Jan 2010, 07:43 »

for James Brown, I'd recommend you start with The Payback]/i].
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« Reply #96 on: 24 Jan 2010, 09:02 »

I was also going to recommend this, but James Brown doesn't strike me as an album guy: he's mainly a singles kinda guy. I know you said you had most of them, but there's the fantastic singles retrospective by Hip-O Select which is also available on Spotify if you can get that.
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« Reply #97 on: 24 Jan 2010, 16:48 »

Where should I start with indie pop & electronic music from the last two years? I have been really out of the loop.

(I'm not trolling, honest)

Just skimming my itunes here

Apparat, Bears in Heaven, Battles, Camera Obscura, Burning Hearts, Ellen Allien, Flairs, Imogen Heap, Handsomeboy Technique*, Jens Lekman, Pyramiddd, Press On Randy, SomethingALaMode, Tegan and Sara

*Her music is actually really hard to find so I would be willing to send an album for you to download

Edit: wait last two years? That would knock Apparat and Handsomeboy out
Not Apparat. He collaborated with Modeselektor as Moderat last year. That was a pretty great album.
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« Reply #98 on: 24 Jan 2010, 21:53 »

Fuck Buttons made industrial music that people liked.

I really don't know much about Industrial music at all but really?
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« Reply #99 on: 25 Jan 2010, 19:29 »

"Surf Solar" is basically an early 90's Coil-ish acid house + rave synths. It might be more attributable to the producer (one of the guys from Two Lone Swordsmen)
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